From: Brad Krones <??????????????????> Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #245 -- December 14, 1997 In responding to the postings about pipe lighters, perhaps it is fair to ask: "How can you beat a Zippo?" As to pipes, I recently got a Peterson Killarney Full Bent; it is heaven. It features a really thick stem, shank, and bowl. Best wishes to all, Brad Krones [ In answer to your question, it's difficult, but a 20-ounce (0.6 kg) Vaughan wood-handled framing hammer can be used effectively to beat a Zippo. (Well, ya asked...) See the following. -S. ] ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U ~\U