Pipes Digest Number 245

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Subject: Pipes Digest #245 -- December 14, 1997

		Pipes Digest #245 -- December 14, 1997
   Copyright (C) 1997 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 3201

Welcome to new members:

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

The Toronto Pipe Club is now officially in existence! Eighteen smokers
attended the Inaugural Smoker on 22 November.

Our regular gathering from now on will be a Monthly Smoker, the second
Saturday of every month from 2-4pm, at The Originall WC Fields
Downstairs, 50 Cumberland Street Toronto. The next Smokers will be 13
December and 10 January - come out and see us.

Also, for new or thinking-about-it pipe smokers, we'll be holding a
how-to seminar called "Pipes 101". This happens Saturday, January 17
from 3-5pm , at Thomas Hinds Tobacconists, 392 Eglinton
Av. West.Admission is $5. We'll cover all the practical basics of pipe
smoking. Hope to see you there!

You can email us at ?????????????????? for more info.


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

When I moved to paradise here in Kauai, HI, I knew that the cost of
living was high. The price of tobacco is however is astronomical. A
pouch of Borkum Riff Ultralight is $6 and a tin is $26 before sales
tax. At age 35, I already feel ancient when I reminisce about paying
only $1.24/7.99 respectively. In any event, I was wondering if there
are any shops/mail order houses listening that could cut my expense?
Any takers can email me the details. Thanks.

(See the Digest Web page and the Resource Guide for a whole host of
commercial links and mail-order houses. -S. ]


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From: "DAVID R. LUNDGREN" <????????????????????>
Subject: New pipe lighter

Greetings Other Pipe Smokers... I've been lurking around now for several
months but thought I'd come out to share info on a nifty lighter.  Last
week I had joined my wife on a shopping trip to those mega-malls around
Reading PA... just my luck a mall the size of Rhode Island and not a
pipe/tobacco shop to be found... oh well... anyway that night at the
motel I got out my stuff and prepared for a good smoke... and found my
lighter had given its last gasp.  There was a gas station/convenience
store next door, and I figured to pick up a cheap butane.  On the
counter was a plastic bucket of "Zippo"-style lighters, which the sign
identified only as "Turbos". Ok... I'm a sucker for gadgets so I forked
over 8 bucks (so much for my cheap butane) and took it outside to try it
out.  It was a re-fillable, adjustable butane and may well be the best
pipe lighter I've ever seen.  I don't know physics behind the turbo
principle, but the results are great.  It produces a sharp hot conical
flame not unlike a small torch.  A fresh pipe lights well enough, but it
really excells at relighting when the tobacco has gotten well down. 
Unlike a standard lighter or even a match for that matter, whose flame
always goes up, this flame goes wherever you point it, even straight
down into the bowl. Lights the tobacco, doesn't scorch the bowl or your
fingers.  The unfortunate part is, there's absolutely no identifying
info on it... no idea who makes it.  I can only suggest you keep your
eyes open and if you see one try it... I think you'll like
it.            Smoke in peace.  Dave Lundgren ?????????????????????


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From: Tony Berke <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: Returned mail: Ambiguous address (fwd)

	Hi Steve,
Sorry to forward this message. I tried to get in touch with the person who
had the P.D. Zippo lighters a few months ago to see if MAYBE there was
still one available. As you can see, it bounced back on me. Any chance of
your contacting them, or getting me the correct e-mail address? BTW, is
the the best address to use if I want to post on PD, or should I use
another? Thanks for your time, help, and as alwawys, your dedication in
keeping us pipsters in touch!
	Best,
	Tony Berke - Gahanna, OH

[ Bounced message to Eliot "Eeyore" Evans deleted.  Sorry, Tony, he's
dropped off of our radar, too.  If anyone knows where he is, please
drop us a line.  Lsat I heard, he only had two lighters left,
though. -S. ]


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From: Ray Sola <?????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997

>From: Ryan Chandlee (???????????????????)
>Subject: comment from pipes page
>
>Your pipe pages are really intereting, even for a non-smoker.  I'm
>writing to tap into you or your group's knowledge about old tobacco
>products.  I have an opportunity to get ahold of unopened packs of
>Plowboy, and Honest long cut tobacco (I think they're from either 1909
>or 1911).  I am a vintage sports card collector, and wondered if
>anyone knew whether or not baseball cards came in every pack, or were
>randomly inserted.  Also, do tobacco enthusiasts collect wrappers,
>tins, and cigar art?  If you know of anybody with expertise in the
>area, please, let me know!
>
>Thank You,
>Ryan Chandlee
>???????????????????

I have never seen anything about pipe art, but there are many people who
collect cigar label art.  We just did an interesting article about it in
CigarLife magazine.

http://www.cigarlife.com/gart01.htm

ciao,

Ray Sola
?????????????????
_______________________________________

CigarLife - The Internet Cigar Magazine
http://www.cigarlife.com/

[ I've also placed CigarLife in the PD Resource Guide. -S. ]


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From: Bobby Holstein <?????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #244 (Scotch/Cigar)

> Forbes and the Scotch Malt Wisky Society are sponsoring a "Single Malt
> and Cigar Extravangaza" at the Pyramid Club (atop One Libery
> Place). $50. Admission by advance ticket purchase only
> 800/990-1991. Jacket Required. Date is 13 November.
 
Just an FYI.  All of the Scotch Malt Whisky Events
are listed at http://fujipub.com/scotchmalt

Slainte
Bobby
_______________________________________________
The Fuji Cigar Page at http://fujipub.com/cigar


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From: "Rice, MA Mark (6750)" <???????????????????>
Subject: another biz to avoid?

Steve,

I'm sorry to report this, but:
According to WBAP (Dallas/Ft.Worth Radio Station) an outfit called PM
Productions screwed over 120 vendors for a cigar non-event.  Apparently
PM Productions sold over $200,000 worth of booth space for a cigar trade
show that never happened...  leaving vendors with no place to go when
they arrived at Dallas this last weekend (Nov. 15-16).  WBAP could not
locate anyone from PM Productions for comment (likely because they had
burned their bridge already).

- Mark Rice
???????????????????

[ Caveat emptor, everywhere.  Due to the high profits in the cigar
business, there's a lot of mischief going on.  Where large sums are
involved, deal only with people you know and can trust. -S. ]


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From: Philip Borgnes <??????????????????????>

Being a new member I thought I'd share this little gem.
Thanks for your newsletter.

-Philip Borgnes

>ONLY IN THE U.S. LEGAL SYSTEM
>
> A Charlotte, North Carolina man, having purchased a case of rare,
>very expensive cigars, insured them against ... get this ... fire.
>
>Within a month, having smoked his entire stockpile of fabulous
>cigars, and having yet to make a single premium payment on the
>policy, the man filed a claim against the insurance company.  In
>his claim, the man stated that he had lost the cigars in "a series of
>small fires."
>
>The insurance company refused to pay, citing the obvious reason that
>the man had consumed the cigars in a normal fashion.  The man sued...
>and won!
>
>In delivering his ruling, the judge stated that since the man held a
>policy from the company in which it had warranted that the cigars
>were insurable, and also guaranteed that it would insure the cigars
>against fire, without defining what it would consider to be
>"unacceptable fire," it was obligated to compensate the insured for his
>loss.
>
>Rather than endure the lengthy and costly appeal process, the
>insurance company accepted the judge's ruling and paid the man
>$15,000 for the rare cigars he lost in "the fires".
>
>After the man cashed his check, however, the insurance company had
>him arrested ... on 24 counts of arson!  With his own insurance claim
>and testimony from the previous case being used as evidence against
>him.  The man was convicted of intentionally burning the rare cigars
>and sentenced to 24 consecutive one year terms!

[ I should really have saved this one for the annual April 1
issue... it's almost certainly an "urban legend." -S. ]


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From: den <??????????????>
Subject: for next PD . . .

Hi Steve,

Thanks for #244.  This one I COULD open!

I wonder if you could publish a couple of notices for me:

"The HUDSON VALLEY (N.Y.) PIPE CLUB meets on the second Wednesday of most 
months, in the Poughkeepsie area.  Members come from as far south as 
Westchester Co. and as far north as Albany.  We get together to enjoy a 
good dinner, share favorite tobaccos, show off new pipes, partake of good 
conversation, buy, sell, & trade pipes, and bask in the general 
comeraderie which graces most gatherings of pipe smokers.  NEW MEMBERS 
ARE MOST WELCOME.  Call president Al DiFalco (914) 756-2574 in Red Hook, 
Rob Denholtz (914) 462-0751 in Poughkeepsie, or Miles Goodman
225-6797 in Carmel."

and . . .

"I would like to get some information on a presentation set I have:  Dr. 
Grabow Viscounts, five pipes (billiard, bent, Dublin, Zulu, bulldog), 
cross-grains, metal bands, far better wood than one usually sees in Dr. 
Grabows, in case.  If anyone knows why this set was made, how many were 
produced, when it was made, etc., etc., I'd sure appreciate hearing from 
you."

Thanks, Steve.

Best regards,

Rob Denholtz
FINE OLDE BRIARS
20 Clover Hill Drive
Poughkeepsie, NY 12603
(914) 462-0751

[ Done, on both counts.  I've listed the Hudson Valley Pipe Club in
the Resource Guide. -S. ]


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From: den <??????????????>
Subject: Dr. Grabow set

Steve,

I've written to Doug Allen, following his recent PD posting about Dr. 
Grabow, but also thought I'd ask you to see if any readers have relevant 
information. 

What I have is a presentation set of Dr. Grabow Viscounts.

In presentation case.  Five pieces.  Cross-grained.  Metal-banded shanks. 
 MUCH better wood than one normally sees in Dr. Grabows.  Set includes 
bulldog, billiard, bent, Zulu, and apple.  Stamped Imported Briar,  
Automatic, Pat. No. 2461905.

Anyone know any history behind this set?  Date, etc.?  

Thanks for your help.

Rob Denholtz
FINE OLDE BRIARS
20 Clover Hill Drive
Poughkeepsie, NY 12603
(914) 462-0751


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From: "Adam Siruchek"<?????????????????????>
Subject: An introductory message

Adam ????????????????
11/19/97 08:36 AM

Steve,
Just wanted to say thanks for all you do with the digest.  I've only been
smoking a pipe six months now, but I love it.  I find that the time it
takes, even just to prepare to smoke; selecting a pipe, packing it
properly, tamping, charring, tamping, relighting, forces me to take time to
relax.
My story:
My interest in pipe smoking was piqued when I linked to a pipe page on the
web from one of the "manly" sites (Men's Health, A Mans Life. I don't
recall which.).  I spent a few weeks researching the subject.  Yours was
the most informative of all the sites out there.  I studied the "how to",
and resource guides, your introductory message, the FAQ's, the "what you
need" page, and many of the health reports.  I told my wife I was planning
to start smoking a pipe, and she she'd like it too, if I could show her
that there was little or no health risk involved.  Now, I work in New York
City, and there's an inherent health risk in that, but I do it anyway.  The
wealth of information in the digest let me show her what was being said
about smoking a pipe from the medical community.  After three weeks or so,
I couldn't wait to start.  Even after all I had read, I bucked conventional
wisdom and bought an authentic Dr. Grabow from WalMart, and a pouch of
Captain Black Royal from J&R Cigars in Paramus, NJ.  I sat in the parking
lot of WalMart and took a LONG time packing the thing, making sure I was
doing it right the first time.  When I got down to the real smoking... it
was the most satisfying pleasure I'd had alone in a long time.  It was
heavenly!  I think the main contributor to that was taking the time to pack
and light it properly.  I spent the next  couple of months experimenting
with a lot of different types of tobacco and purchased a few more pipes,
this time spending much more than I did originally.  I scored at a few
thrift and antique shops with pipes to take home and restore, again thanks
to the info from PD.  My two favorite pipes ended up being my original Dr.
Grabow Starfire and an Alpha I picked up for five bucks at a thrift shop.
I've also gone back to the Captain Black Royal.  I like the taste and my
wife and kids like the aroma.  I've recently seen some mention of the
Hudson Valley Pipe Club, which I'm hoping to join up with soon.
Anyway, that's my story.  Thanks again for the great work on the digest.
Keep 'em coming!

Adam Siruchek

[ We will keep 'em coming, Adam! Welcome! -S. ]


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From: Bruce Harris <??????????????????>
Subject: Marxman Pipes

Steve,
     I would love to hear from anyone who has memories/stories/anecdotes of
purchasing Marxman pipes during the late 1940's and/or early 1950's. Thanks!


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From: Duane Campbell <??????????????>
Subject: Kaywoodie collectors?

The recent talk about Kaywoodie pipes got my mind rumbling. Out in the
garage ... somewhere ... is a box with unused pipes. I never throw anything
out. It should have a number of 1950s Kaywoodies, including some unusual
ones. Is there any collectors' market for these? There are a couple of
"lady's" pipes (miniatures), a bamboo shank, and if memory serves, a
strange flattened, white painted aberation. Who knows what else.

A few years ago I had a room added on. The contractor, as contractors are
wont to do, kept telling me he had to run down to the builders' supply for
something or other. I always stopped him, said I had some in the garage,
and proceeded to pull it out, often to his amazement. He never asked for a
Kaywoodie lady's pipe, but if he had ...

Anyway, he would never come back to work for me again.

Duane Campbell	??????????????
http://www.epix.net/~dcamp/


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From: ?????????????????????????? (Neil Murray)
Subject: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997

Just a quick note.  The Gazette is way behind schedule, as probably
everyone has noticed.  I will try to catch up over the holidays, have a
ton of good photos and good material, but work has kept me on the road.

[ The PD is way behind schedule too, but is going out in time for the
holidays. -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????? (David S Chesler)
Subject: Removing sticky stickers (PD 244)

Alan Peschke <????????????????> wonders about removing residue from a
price sticker.  The following has worked for me, but I've only tried
it on plastic goods.  Soak the residue in a dab of light oil
(eg cooking oil, whatever you've got on had) overnight.  Then, when
the residue is dissolved, remove that solution with detergent and
hot water, repeating if necessary.

  - David Chesler (?????????????????????, etc. http://world.std.com/~chesler)


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From: Philip Burnard <?????????????????????>
Subject: Churchwarden pipes

I'm really getting into smoking Churchwarden pipes and now smoke them 
exclusively.  I have found a range of these sorts of pipes available 
(if you've not come across them, they are the ones with the very 
long, curved stems).  A pipe maker in Canada and another in London 
both make the original, clay variety, while Peterson make some really 
good briar ones.  James Barber, tobacconist of Otley, West Yorkshire, 
UK also keeps me supplied with a range of  other makes and also has a 
selection of 'reading' pipes. 'Readers' are slightly shorter than 
Churchwardens and really are ideal when you are reading a book. I 
have a really excellent Butz Choquin 'reader' with a large, calabash 
bowl which means that the smoke last for ages.  Ideal for the 
evening.  And British pipes tend not to have very large bowls. 
Someone on this group reckoned that this was because tobacco is so 
expensive in the UK.  They may well be right.

The advantages of Churchwarden's, to my mind, are that they smoke 
more cooly than another other pipes (including Falcon, filter pipes). 
You never get a mouthful of goo from them, either. They also keep the
 smoke away from your face and look slightly eccentric. This last 
point is also a disadvantage.  I can't imagine smoking them anywhere 
but at home and they certainly aren't very portable. My kids still 
enjoy a giggle at my expense.

If you haven't tried one so far, I would recommend thinking about a 
Peterson.

Philip Burnard, Cardiff, UK


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997

I am looking for a mail order sourse for the following tobacco. It is called
"Evening Stroll" and is manufactured by Consolidated Cigar Corp. My local
Tinder Box got a couple of tins a few months ago and I fell in love with it.
As usual anything you like suddenly becomes hard to find. They have reordered
twice but can't seem to get any more. Any information on where to get this
tobacco will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Lindsay Bobbitt


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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Steve: Good job as always. Are there any pipe clubs in the central NJ
area. I live near Princeton and have not heard of any. Thanks.

[ Not to my knowledge, but if you find one, please let me know. -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Don't know if this posting try will work, Steve, as I have a freenet
account...which is text only and is an extremely 'no frills' way to
surf the net! Any way just wanted to let people know of the two shops
I like to frequent in Columbus, OH. One is Steve and Roswitha
Andersons, "Pipes and Pleasures" I probably go here more often than
anywhere else. Have gotten lots of good advice from all the folks here
and best of all, its the only tobacco shop I know of where you can
sample a bowl of anything they offer, before buying! Now for a
beginner especially, this is a real big help. The Andersons are well
know pipe carvers too, (S&R) I recently purchased one of thier 'coral
rock' finished pipes and although it wasn't inexpensive, its one of my
best smoking pipes. If any one would like to know what the coral rock
finish consists of, e-mail me and I'll be glad to let you know. The
other pipe/tobac shop I like in town is called The original Smokers
Haven.  Tim, the manager is friendly and they have a small, but
reasonably priced assortment of tobacco and pipes. They feature Tim
West pipes and I've been looking at some most seriously as the
holidays approach!  Well, that's about it for now, if this doesn't get
to you I've just wasted about 15 minutes :0.. Best, and keep up the
great job with PD, Tony Berke, Gahanna, OH

[ Thanks for the note, Tony.  It made it with no problems.  Ohio seems
to be a hotbed of pipe activity -- not surprising with the likes of
Bill Unger, Regis McCaffrey, the Andersons, and Tim West! -S. ]


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From: James Folger <?????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997

[ Administrativa deleted.  Please let me know if the problem
persists. -S. ]

Question: I've noticed that pipe smoke does not leave a lingering odor
(unlike cigars). Even my clothes don't seem to suffer long-lasting
effects. Is this common, or am I just becoming so accustomed to it that
I no longer notice.  If true, I wonder why?

Thanks, you do an excellent job!
jf


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From: masd_engser <??????????????????????????> 
Subject: stuff

Steve, 
        It's great to be back. I left my previous employer (Alaris Medical
Systems) a while ago and started  working for Kodak. We don't have any sort
of web access (big shocker!) so after much begging and pleading, I get to
share a coPUserve account with eight other people. Well I guess I have a
few installments of pipes digest to catch up on! odd-e-ose

Allan
?????????????????????????

[ Welcome back, and laugh-a while you can! -S. ]


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From: ???????????????????? (jimbo)
Subject: briar hunt

Hi ho from the sunny south.I have really enjoyed brousing. I need a
little help . I am looking for a little better supply of wood than i
have at the moment . I am looking to buy 20 to 50 peices at a time but I
do not want take out a second mortgage on the kids.I know pipe makers
are very secretive about sources but I figure there must be room for one
more old wood carver.TTFN

[ You could probably get this quantity of briar blocks from
Stemco-Pimo; please see the Guide for their address. -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

hello i am new to all of this a new pipe smoker and i love the
hobby. i feel that i could take great pride in making old dirty pipes
into as new as possible and very clean (i love working with wood) but
i need a starting point anyone who could take the time to give the the
information on how to do this and what tools are required i have
looked in thew pipe digests and only found the questions not the
answers

i would like to thank all involved with this fourm and tell them i do
appericate the time they spend helping all of us and PLEASE keep up
the good work my e mail address is ?????????????????

[ The best starting point I can provide is "Pimo's Guide to Pipe
Crafting," which is available from Stemco-Pimo (listed in the Guide.) -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Digest 244

Steve,

Just saw issue 244 and the request for information from Lech Kowaleski,
regarding briar block dimensions.  The list of numbers CM 2-3, MF 1-2,...etc.
are the identifying numbers used for briar blocks.  It is a more or less
universal system used by pipe manufacturers around the world.  There may be
some slight variations (in mm) between what the different manufacturers
consider the minimum sizes to be, but the attached text file will give a
pretty good idea of the sizes.  (There are a couple of blocks that I didn't
have the dimensions for as we don't use that particular size.)

Best Regards

Bill Feuerbach
S.M. Frank & Co., Inc.
(Kaywoodie,Yello-Bole, Medico)

        || MIMIMUM SIZE-MM  MINIMUM SIZE IN INCHES
        ||                 |
        || ThickHeighLength|Thick  Height Length
C 1-2   ||                 |
CM 1-2  || 30.5 40.5    61 |1.2188 1.5938 2.4063
CMF 1-2 ||   34 45.5    63 |1.3438 1.7813    2.5
CM 2-3  || 30.5 40.5    83 |1.2188 1.5938 3.2813
CMF 2-3 ||   34 45.5    83 |1.3438 1.7813 3.2813
CM 3-4  || 30.5 40.5   110 |1.2188 1.5938 4.3438
CMF 3-4 ||   34 45.5   112 |1.3438 1.7813 4.4063
M 1-2   ||   37 47.5    68 |1.4688  1.875 2.6875
MF 1-2  || 40.5   54  74.5 |1.5938  2.125 2.9375
M 2-3   ||   37 47.5    93 |1.4688  1.875 3.6563
MF 2-3  || 40.5   54    95 |1.5938  2.125   3.75
M 3-4   ||   37 47.5   112 |1.4688  1.875 4.4063
MF 3-4  || 40.5   54   112 |1.5938  2.125 4.4063
MF 4-5  || 40.5   54   134 |1.5938  2.125 5.2813
S 1     ||                 |
MFF 2-3 || 41.6 55.1 100.1 |1.6427 2.1755 3.9514
MFF 3-4 ||   45 55.1 101.3 |1.7759 2.1755 3.9958
PLS LL  ||                 |
PLS L   ||                 |
PLS M   || 40.5 51.8    72 |1.5938 2.0423 2.8438
X Grande ||                |
R 1     ||   25   27    47 |     1 1.0625 1.8438
R 1 1/4 ||   30   34    54 |1.1875 1.3438  2.125
R 1 1/2 || 32.5 40.5    61 |1.2813 1.5938 2.4063
R 1 3/4 ||   37 47.5    68 |1.4688  1.875 2.6875
R 2     || 40.5   54    72 |1.5938  2.125 2.8438
R 2 1/4 ||   42   61  81.5 |1.6563 2.4063 3.2188
R 2 1/2 ||   43   68    89 |1.6875 2.6875    3.5
R 2 3/4 ||   45   72  94.5 |1.7759 2.8415 3.7294
SP      || 49.5   72    72 |1.9535 2.8415 2.8438
15-26   || 49.5 57.4  87.8 |1.9535 2.2643 3.4631

[ Thanks for the clarification, Bill! -S. ]


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From: Steve Beaty <????????????????????>
Subject: SPCA

Smokin' Steves,

	well, here's the inaugural email to the Steves' Pipe Club of America.
feel free to spout off all you want at: ??????????????????? and we'll all
commiserate on what it means to be a pipe-smokin' Steve :-)  here's the
list as it stands today:

[ Addresses deleted to spare the Steves some spurious spam. -S. ]

              (Steve Beaty),
              (Steve Masticola),
              (Steve Granoff),
              (Steven Kick),
              (Stephen L. Eagle),
              (Steve Ross),
              (Steve Smith)

feel free to spread the word; have people write to me directly at the
address below to be added to the list...

so now, my question du juer: why are there so many of us?  is it just that
there are a lot of Steves (a distinct possibility in my experience) and if
so, who the hell were we all named after?  or is there some other
deep-rooted (-: no briar pun intended :-) reason why Steves are attracted
to pipe smoking?

Steve Beaty                                                   ???????????????
Creator and maintainer:                                  http://www.pipes.org

[ Names come as fads; I think we were all just in the Great Steve Wave
of the late 50s/early 60s... -S. ]


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From: Duane Campbell <??????????????>
Subject: Tinsky and others

Michael Glunkler wrote:

> We both agreed
that of all the pipes we own, that the ones made by Mark Tinsky smoke the
sweetest.

I agree. A few months ago I got a Tinsky pipe and have been absolutely
delighted with the smoking quality. I live not far from him and hope to go
down sometime and get more.

But the subject of sweet smoking brings up another matter. I have several
Talamonas, and like Mark's pipes, they all have exceptional smoking
qualities. One is officially classified as My Favorite Pipe, and I have
smoked it first thing in the morning, every morning, for over fifteen
years. That works out to ... just a sec ... over 1500 smokings, and every
one a pleasure. The others are almost equally good. I have never had such
uniform experience with any other brand.

Yet I seldom see Talamonas in pipe shops and I can find out nothing about
them. A search of the Pipes Digest Web site a couple of years ago came up
with only one hit, and when I called the telephone number it gave, they had
no idea what I was talking about.

Does anyone know anything about Talamonas?

Duane Campbell	??????????????
http://www.epix.net/~dcamp/


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From: "Kurdsjuk, Jacob (Jake), BGCM BGDM" <?????????????????>
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997

Steve,

Best wishes to you and yours, and the rest of our pipe family, for the
holidays.  May your Christmas pipe never be empty, and may you never run
out of matches.

In the last issue Michael Glukler wrote...

>  A cohort of mine and I have been discussing the virtues of some of our
>favorite pipes, and we came up with something interesting...the ones made 
>by Mark Tinsky smoke the sweetest...Does Mark do some mystical thing to 
>his briar? ... What makes this all the more interesting is that recently I
>bought 
>a pipe from another maker, that buys his briar from Mark. This maker uses a
>pre -
>carbon coating in the bowl...The pipe does smoke very well,but there is a
>differance... 
>Also I have made a few pipes from kits I have purchased from Mark...one I
>recently 
>finished...smokes just as sweet as my three other Tinsky made pipes...
>My question to all your learned readers is, why is this so?? Could Mark be
>right and it is just the right amount of time drying and luck? 

I have had the distinct honor and pleasure of serving an "intermittent
apprenticeship" with Mark, learning the fine art of pipemaking as I have
the time.  In my short time in his shop I have learned many, many
invaluable lessons, some that would have taken a lifetime to learn on my
own, and for that alone I am forever indebted to him.  Even though the
first pipe I made wasn't the prettiest creation in the world, it smoked
wonderfully.  The briar I used on my pipe was chosen from the same exact
bin Mark was using.  When I told Mark how happy I was that I created
something that not only smoked, but smoked well he replied, "Why not?
It's good briar!!"  My experience has been consistent with each
subsequent pipe - and they have actually progressed to the point where
I'll smoke 'em in public!

As for the other maker you mention, a carbon coating sits between the
tobacco and the briar, so until the cake is built to the point where it
covers the bowl, I can't help but think that you're smoking a little
coating with your Virginia Flake.  Mark has told me that he subscribes
to the fact that coating the bowl is more for cosmetic reasons (to hide
possible imperfections in the bowl), but is often sold as a way to build
a cake faster or to "protect the briar during break in".  I would tend
to agree with him about hiding imperfections, and have approached
another pipemaker about that point precisely when one pipe I received
from him was coated and another was not.  As for building the cake
faster, I have found the opposite to be true in my experience.  In
either case, I've never had a coated pipe smoke as well as a non-coated
from the first bowl (though once broken in they were just fine).  This
really annoyed me when I first got my Larsen, though it is now one of my
best smokers.

As for any mystical secrets Mark employs, I'd keep 'em to myself if
there were any, but alas, it is simply great briar, put aside to dry
naturally in the cool, clear Pocono Mountain air, and then lovingly
carved by an expert (or someone else as in my case).  Perhaps it's the
mountain air?!  Maybe it's the effect of his cats walking all over
them?!  Maybe it's both!!  Is it luck?  I think "lucky" is just Mark
being humble.  He's been doing this for a while now, so if nothing else
knowing where to get the briar helps (he told me that the latest batch
he's been using has provided the most consistently "good" grain he's
seen from these folks).  

In any event, I feel that Mark's pipes deliver one of the purest smokes
I've ever had, and are consistently among my regular smokes.  So light
up and enjoy - as I think I will right now.

Jake Kurdsjuk


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From: Doug Martin <????????????????>
Subject: House of Robertson, Boise, ID

Steve,

In PD 244 "nobody" <?????????????????> asked about a shop called "The
House of Robertson" in Boise, Idaho.  He had been there in the middle
1970's and remembers "hundreds of the most enormous pipes" he's ever
seen, but no one seems to remember the shop. I wanted to pass along some
info about the store.

John Robertson started the shop in 1940 and his son started working
there in 1970 when he finished college, along with John's daughter. 
John and his son started making the big pipes at that time and made them
together until 1987 when John passed away.  John's son kept the store
and his sister moved on to other things.

The House of Robertson is still in business and John's son, also John,
is still the proprietor.  I've seen a few of the big pipes for sale but
John typically only makes big and small pipes to order.


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From: Jennifer Lindblad <??????????????????>
Subject: Gary Saenz wanting his wife by his side on the back porch

Here are some ideas that might help Gary Saenz's wife keep her pipe lit:

Packing the bowl too loosly or too tightly will influence how well the pipe
stays lit (besides very likely resulting in tongue bite) -- a well-packed
pipe stays lit longer.  Also, the type of tobacco will have an influence on
your smoke's longevity.  A coarsly cut tobacco, they say, will burn slower
and is a good choice for the fast and heavy puffer, as well as for the
smoker looking for a milder taste.  A finely cut tobacco or one composed of
thin strands of leaf will burn faster and somewhat hotter, ideal for the
slow, meticulous smoker, as he/she does not have to puff as much in order to
keep the pipe lit. 
  
My real break-through as a beginner, however, came after trying a packing
technique that Mike Butera recommended in an article in "Pipes & Tobacco"
(Winter 1997). Butera claims that using a certain packing technique was the
easiest way for a new pipe smoker to move right to enjoyable smoking
experiences.  I tried it and I have to agree with him.  Learning how to pack
a pipe, knowing how it should feel to smoke a well-packed pipe, was
something that I welcomed very much when I was a beginner and felt unsure
about everything. 

Here it is:

1)  Chop the tobacco on a wooden cutting board with a large cutting knife to
the point where you can gravity feed your pipe, i.e., you simply drop the
tobacco into the bowl, and it falls directly to the bottom.

2)  Fill the pipe bowl to the top and press it down into the bowl using your
finger or tamper.  Then gravity feed it to the top again; press down to 3/4
full.  Gravity feed it again a little above the top of the bowl and tamp it
down tight, even with the top of the bowl.

3)  Chopped tobacco, lights quickly.  Char the tobacco, tamp, relight, tamp
and relight. With the third light, you should only have to pull two or three
times to light the whole surface.  Don't be afraid to tamp and relight
throughout the whole smoke.  When you get halfway down the bowl, stir up the
ash a little bit and dump some of the ash.

4)  Use pipe cleaners throughout to remove the moisture -- removing it will
result in a cool, clean smoke (insert through mouth piece). 

Not only did I learn how it felt to smoke a well-packed pipe, I also
discovered that the tobacco tended to stay lit much longer when using this
technique.   Regarding smoking technique, suggest that your wife, even
though she takes small puffs, puff as slowly and for as long as she can.  My
experience is that those slow and gentle puffs is what really makes the
tobacco burn.  Also, as she blows out the smoke, let some of that smoke go
back through the pipe until she sees a small string of smoke come up through
the bowl.

Good luck!

Jennifer Lindblad

[ Interesting, Jennifer!  I'll have to try the chopping technique
sometime. Usually I'm too lazy. :-) -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????????????? (Juan Ignacio Babayan)
Subject: Thank you for accepting me

Dear moderator: Thank you for accepting me as a member of Pipe
Digest. I have been interested in pipes and pipe smoking for forty
years and I have rise a collection of about three hundred pipe. As
many colleagues smokers I feel it is difficult some times to get
enough information about our habit, mainly because much of the related
books are very technical, written by scholars, generally on very
narrow focused points of interest. I have not found quoted, as far as
I am aware of, a very nice small book written in 1954 by a frenchman,
hero of World War II, Georges Herment, and published by Simon and
Schuster, New York in 1995. This is an almost poetic book. Allow me to
transcribe the following sentence " The more deplorable-and, alas, the
most usual-way of filling a pipe..... To those who retort that the
taste of the tobacco is the same in any case, there is no answer save
the dignified silence of the gourmet or the wine connoisseur." I
would like to know if somebody can give information on desiderability
and price of a Charatan pipe, Executive, Extralarge, Hand made, almost
perfect straight grain, unsmoked, flawless. I am not intending to
sell, just to know more about.  Juan I. Babayan 


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From: "Richard E. Byer" <????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997

>From: Oliver (??????????????????)
>Subject: posting from pipes page
>
>Hi, I was wondering if there are any pipe smoker clubs in the Metro
>Washington D.C. area???  Or if anyone is interested in starting an
>informal club, just to meet somewhere in a pub to sit back and enjoy
>and talk about pipes in general and whatever else there is.
>
>oliver
>
>[ There certainly is: Capital Area Pipe Smokers (CAPS). Contact:
>Dr. John Weinstein, NSS, (703) 273-5737.  Sadly, my Digest mailings to
>John have started bouncing, and I don't have a forwarding address.
>If you can't raise him, you can contact CAPS through John B. Hayes,
>Tobacconist at (703) 385-3033. -S. ]
>

These days, George Riddle, who can often be reached at Hayes' shop, is the
primary instigator of CAPS meetings.  They occur generally about every 6
weeks, usually at Mama's Italian Restaurant in Fairfax.  (The last meeting
was about a week ago and was poorly attended, since someone forgot to send
out the announcements.  GRRRR.)

The next meeting will be sometime in January.

By the way, we had a Pipe of the Year commissioned from Nording.  They are
beautiful handmades, panels, with a silver bank, in smooth, sandblast or
"rusticated."   If you come to the meeting, there will probably still be a
few left for sale.  Very nice pipes.  Next year's CAPS Pipe of the Year
will be made in London, I hear.

Rick
________________________
Rick Byer
<????????????????>

[ Thanks for the update on the CAPS contact, Rick! -S. ]


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From: ??????????????
Subject: Help: Unusual Antique German Pipe.

Hello,

I am not a pipe collector but find many of them beautiful objects of art. I
would like to describe a smoking pipe that belonged to my grandfather or
great grandfather.
Maybe you can point me to a site that may have seen a similar pipe or to
someone that may help me.

I'll describe the pipe as folllows:

SMOKING PIPE, Late 19th Century 18xx?.
The case is marked but the first word is difficult to read. The first letter
looks like an "L", the next letters "KERN" space "NFG" or "NFC". The second
word is "HAMBURG" The pipe case is leather ocer wood with a length of about
5&3/8" long  
by 2&1/2 inches high at the highest spot.

The pipe itself is ornately carved from a single pice of wood. There are 2
figures on the top of the pipe set between the bowl and mouthpiece. One
figure is of a male adult holding the hand of a child who is looking up at
him. The adult has a beard and is wearing a hat. The adult has a crossbow
slung over his right shoulder and a quiver of crossbow bolts in a quiver at
his right waist. The adult also has a short sword in a scabbard carried at
the left side of his back on the same belt that the quiver of crossbow bolts
are attached to. The adult is also wearing boots.

The child is hatless and seems to be wearing a TOGA or short dress. To the
rear of the adult is a post. On top of the post appears to be a helmet of
some kind. There are also some shrubs and bushes between the post with the
helmet and the adults back and legs. The pipes maximum length is about 4&1/2
inches long and it is about 1&7/8 inches high. The mouth piece screws on and
seems to be some kind of finely finished wood. The mouth piece is lighter in
color (tending to amber) than the bowl and body of the pipe.

The body of the pipe itsel is curved and is a medium dark brown with lighter
splotches (almost seems like burl). 

In the center of the adults abdomen is a piece of glass about 1/8 inch in
diameter.
When the pipe is held up to the light, there is a series of 4 pictures set 2
high by 2 wide. At the top of the pictures is the word HAMBURG. Under the top
left picture are the words "DER HAFEN". Below the top right picture
"ALSTERDAMN,
below the bottom left picture is "ALTER JUNGFERNS TEIG",
Below the bottom right picture is the word "WANDRAHMFLEETH"
The approximate weight of this pipe is about 23.65 grams. Can anyone out
there provide any information/value/etc. I suspect that it may be a momento
from Hamburg but it really seems to be a work of art. It has been smoked.

Thanks for reading,

Walt Kraeft,  ??????????????'s dad.


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From: "marcus matzick" <??????????????>
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request

Thank you and yes I would like to recieve the digest
Here is my first post: Can someone please tell me if it is normal to 
get tongue bite when breaking in a new pipe? Also does any one out 
there smoke Sail Black Cavendish? Any opinions would be welcome.  Is 
there any other members on Prince Edward Island? I  am also looking 
for a female 20-39 or so that is interested in pipe smoking and would 
lilke to share some correspondence with me  at my email address


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Howdy, y'all.  I am looking for a place to buy my husband Galvin's
Irish Blend pipe tobacco.  We live in San Antonio, TX, but I would be
happy to order online or by phone.  I sure would appreciate any help
y'all could give me!

Happy holidays to all of you out there in cyber pipe land!

dks

[ Hope this goes out in time to help! -S. ]


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From: ????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hello,
Does anyone have any info on a "Niblick Barling's Make 1184" (sandblasted)? 
I recently bought it Pre-smoked for 15$ in Italy.  
It has a great long stem and really looks like something out of 
the thirties or fifties.  And it smokes perfectly.
I also bought a 1964 Dunhill DR A2 Bulldog (also for 20$!) 
Does anyone know what the "A2" refers to?

[ For the first question, it's a Barling, of course, which can be a
superior grade of pipe.  Sounds like you made out quite well! -S. ]


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From: "Deborah J. Sulli" <??????????????????>
Subject: Have you ever heard of this pipe manufacturer?

I am helping a friend to locate any information on the Venturi brand
pipe.  Have you ever heard of this brand?  Is it a collectors item?  Any
information you could provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Deborah Sulli

??????????????????

[ "Who Made That Pipe?", by Wilczak and Colwell, lists a "Ventri,"
made by H. Gouden in England, but not a "Venturi." -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????? (John Lindly)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Steve,

I am hoping there is someone who reads PD that can help me.  I found a
pipe recently with the nomenclature "Benaderet's Coral, London Made"
on it. It is a beautiful blasted bent billiard that is similar to
1950s blasts I have seen, i.e., deep, with good grain showing
through. "Who Made that Pipe" does not list this manufacturer.  Does
anyone have any infomation about this pipe maker?  Thanks for the
help, and keep up the good work.

John Lindly


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From: ????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hello, all!  just wanted to see if anyone could help me with my two
latest additions to my modest collection.  The first is a Dunhill. On
the bottom is stamped 475 F/T, underneath that is DUNHILL SHELL, and
underneath that is Made in England followed by what looks like an 8
with a 9 under it.  Underneath all of this is a 4 enclosed in a circle
and followed by a S. The second is a Caminetto marked on one side with
that name and underneath that BUSIN56S followed by KS in bigger
letters. On the other side of the shank it has Made in Italy and
underneath that a word that looks like _UCCIAGO (Co)with the letter
before the U being an unrecogizeable letter.  I would very much
appreciate it if anyone could help me identify either or both of these
pipes. I love reading the digest and only wish it came out more
often!!! Please keep up the great work.


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From: "Birger Juul Jensen" <???????????????????????>
Subject:  Pipes Digest

Dear Steve, and all readers.

First off all, thanks for a good, and educating magazine.
And second, I'll tell you all about 2 funny things that happen't to me the
other day.
I've been a member off a tobacco club in denmark ( Poul Olsen's MY OWN
BLEND ) for about a year,
and every second month they use to send out a magazine, and a sample
off,"the tobacco off the month".
I wrote use to, because I've only got the tobacco 3 times during my
membership.
However I was loking forward, like every body else, to get the christmas
tobacco
When the tobacco didn't arrive, I call't the factory, and ask the "nice"
telephone lady, why the magazine ,and the sample didn't come. 
The telephone lady, at that time I still thought, she was a smoker friendly
human being, ask me that ,:" The reasen that you haven't got it allready,
is maybe, that we haven't send it". ( smart girl )
Okay I said, :" when will you send it". " We won't" she replied, and told
me that only a few members will get it,and if I wan't any tobacco, she was
sure that there was a store near me, who was willing to sell me some.
When I told her, that this wasn't the way to threat a member, and ask her,
how they had pickt out the people to get the tobacco ( plaid card, yatzi or
what ). Now I cut hear that she was angry, and told me that I didn't have
to play smart, because she cun't help it,and cun't care less. (THANKS FOR
THE SERVICE POUL OLSEN )
The next is a story with a wery happy ending. I'm the lucky owner of a
GEORG JENSEN nr.:45 (my favorit), but I had made a hole in the mouthpiece,
and therefor needed a new.
The store in my hometown aarhus ( Pipe smeden ) told me that a original
would cost 30 $, but he was able to make one for 11,50 $. 
After a little thinking I send a e-mail to Georg Jensen pipe's, on a
sunday.
After about 20 min. I've recieved an e-mail from the chef at Georg Jensen,
telling me,just to send him my pipe, and he will fix it for 15 $. The
reasen for sending the pipe is, that it's a handmade pipe, and the
mouthpiece therefor had to be made so it fit to the pipe. Look !! that's
what I call service.
To MY OWN BLEND, it won't  be tobacco from you that will ruin me. And to
GEORG JENSEN, thanks for a splendid service.

Smoke in peace, and keep up the steam.
???????????????????????

[ For another Danish pipe club (maybe!), see below. -S. ]


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From: Polle Jorgensen <???????????????????>
Subject: Pipesmokers club in Denmark

Try to visit our homepage

www.inet.tele.dk/perkorje

and se what we are during in a danish pipesmokers club - the homepage are
made in danish and english

polle

[ Polle, I've tried it, and get the following message: "Den kaldte
URL-adresse findes desvaerre ikke. Hvis du mener, det skyldes en fejl
fra vores side, vil webmasteren gerne vide det. Han kan traeffes pa
??????????????????????????". What I guess this means is that the page
wasn't found. If anyone can provide the address, I'll put it in the
Guide. -S. ]


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From: ?????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I have 3 spectacular pre-smoked pipes for sale by Jess Chonowitsch. 

1. BLOWFISH with spectacular crossgrain birdseye in MINT condition. $1,400.
2. Brandied billard with oval shank. Near perfect straight grain 360
degrees   and amazing tight birdseye top and botom. MINT
condition. $1,200. 
3. Brandied billiard, sandblast straight grain with bamboo shank. MINT $400.

Prices do not include shipping. Payment must be in advance with VISA,
or prepaid check. 


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From: "John P. Giunta" <????????????????????>
Subject: Arcadia

Hello Steve and interested others,

Sorry to mislead any of you who sought out this message specifically 
for the subject, "Arcadia", but my impression from reading elsewhere 
is that the original formula for the Arcadia mixture has been lost.

Of course I'd be happy to know if this is not correct, and I hope 
that any reader who  has the latest information about Arcadia will 
share it, then get out of the way to avoid the stampede of the 
curious.

The Arcadia mixture is given such tantalizing treatment in the Barrie 
stories.

Regards to all,

__________________________________________________________
John Giunta, B.M., M.A.        Teacher of Yoga and Music
VIENNA WOODS STUDIOS                  Performance Artist
117 Moore Avenue, SW                        Calligrapher
Vienna, Virginia 22180-5968     Observer of Human Nature 

days: (703) 993-2236,  studio voice mail: (703) 281-5498

"My idea is that there is music in the air, music all around us, 
the world is full of it and you simply take as much as you require."

                            --Sir Edward Elgar

[ Possibly not; see next message. In any case, I'm going to scrounge
around my dessicator-dor and see if I stashed any of Craig's Yale
mixture. -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????? (Burt R Wolder)
Subject: Craven Update

Hi, Steve,

Has any blend captured the imagination (or generated as much 
comment in Pipes Digest) as much as Craven, first blended for the third 
Earl of Craven in the 1860's and immortalized as the Arcadia by James 
Barrie in "My Lady Nicotine?"  "A tobacco to be smoked by the greatest of 
men," Barrie wrote.  As it turns out, I can quote all this because I have in 
front of me an actual, new tin of Craven.

I'm in London this week and stumbled on this in a retail shop, if you can 
believe it (the tobacco counter at Selfridges in Oxford Street.)  I've been 
peeking into tobacco shops, but it's not appeared on any of the shelves 
I've seen.  

This is a new tin, not old stock, and there is absolutely no manufacturer's 
mark or any other maker's identification on the tin, nor is the country of 
origin marked.  However, I know from corresponding with them more than 
a year ago that Murray's owns the mark and the formula.  When I wrote to 
them, they told me they had no plans to bring the tobacco back to the 
market, but clearly something has changed.

This tin carries the familiar black cat, the "Supreme Since the Sixties" black
script, Barrie's quote and the reference to the third Earl of Craven.  The 
color of the label echoes the pale purple of old.  What's new is the grim 
EC directive, "tobacco seriously damages health," which is almost as big 
as the Craven name itself.

At any rate, I bought the 50G tin of tobacco for five pounds and 41 pence, 
or about eight dollars.  The mixture is unchanged, and friends of Cornell 
and Diehl will be delighted to know that the first taste confirmed what a 
splendid job Craig Tarler has done in putting his Yale Mixture 
together.  My first thought as I smoked that delicious first pipe was that the
taste Craig's achieved with the Yale Mixture is virtually identical.  In fact,
Craig's pressed version of the Yale Mixture even has the same 
appearance as Craven in the tin.

Needless to say, Craig's price is much more economical.

If anyone has any information about the re-distribution of Craven, I'd be 
interested to know the story.

(And, by the way, while I'm writing, does anyone know what's become of 
the old Edward G. Robinson's blend?  It's quite a different product than 
Craven, of course, but as I was admiring the Craven label I recalled how 
much I also admired the old picture of Robinson, with his pipe, on 
that old package...)

--Burt Wolder

[ It may be, though, that even the Arcadia has been surpassed in this
century, in sheer power if not in civility.  See the Quote of the
Week, below. -S. ]


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From: Koray Berk (???????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

I am NEW.  That is, I am a new pipe smoker (I consider one year new) and I
am new at this posting business.
Nevertheless, I want to become a member of the group, and I would like to
learn stuff.  How is this possible?
I am a mechnanical engineering student, senior, at the Bogazici University,
Istanbul, TURKEY.
I love pipe smoking, though I have some problems.
Could you help?
Thanks a lot,
Sincerely
KORAY BERK
???????????????????

[ Gee, Koray, didn't anyone respond to your post in PD #244? -S. ]


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From: John <???????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest

Dear Steve,
          I now have net access and would like to have you re-instate
my PD subscription.  Iceland is definately not a smokers paradise.  The
country plans on being smoke free in 2002.  Hopefully I can get to 
Great Britain occasionally to replenish my supplies!!!

Thanks!!

John A. Mayfield  HM2(SS) USN

[ Gee, John. I'd always been of the opinion that Europeans were much
more sophisticated about tolerating the vices of their citizens than
Americans are.  

But I wouldn't sweat it too much.  Plans can change; this is one that
should. And what will happen if it doesn't is fairly obvious, and will
probably not be to the liking of the Icelandic government. -S. ]


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From: Brian Cooper (???????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

I was wondering if anyone knew of a good pipe shop in the Columbia, SC area.
The nearest one I know of is Boda Pipes in Greenville, but that is a long 
drive.  Thanks,  
Brian Cooper


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From: Jim DeVault <??????????????????????>
Subject: Swallowing

Read your FAQ from pipes.org, and have a question regarding the statement:

"You may find the pipe getting a little juicy as you smoke. To avoid
this, try to keep your mouth dry as you smoke, and avoid swallowing."

In all the years I've smoked a pipe I've never heard anyone recommend
avoiding swallowing. Was wondering why?

Thanx...
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             Jim DeVault
        ??????????????????????
  http://www.psyberlink.net/~mainbrn
              *  *  *
       contributing writer for
             comp.media
The Mac/PC Commercial Software Resource!
 http://www.village2000.com/comp.media/
----------------------------------------

[ First, to keep the mouth dry; second, because pipe juice is not the
best tasting substance I've ever ingested... -S. ] 


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From: "Michael Mueller" <????????????????????????>
Subject: Worldchampionship in pipesmoking Italy

Dear ladies and gentlemen,

my name is Michael Mueller and I am the vicepredident of
the " Stuttgarter Pipefriend" in Stuttgart/Germany.

My question is: Do you know something about the
IX Worldchampionship in pipe smoking in Venice/Italy`98

Does the pipe club of Venezia / Italy has a URL or email address?

Kind regards

Michael Mueller

 
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Quote of the Week:

  "I love strong tobacco, so strength, flavor and aroma do it for me.
  I'm intensely aware of the effect of the nicotine (and all the other
  alkaloids, oils, resins, sugars etc that give tobacco its charm) every
  single time I smoke as 'satisfaction', the degree and quality of
  pleasure/bliss from the bowl smoked--the tingling of the palate, the
  spread of relaxation, the warmth in the solar plexus, the central
  nervous system arousal, the loading of brain receptors, the release of
  endorphins.  By golly, if it weren't for all that pleasure, why would
  folks have done everything possible to make a toxic (and not terribly
  tasty in its natural state) plant palatable? [...] (Gee, I can hear
  that strong dark fire cured tobacco whispering "We can have FUN
  together", so if you'll excuse me....)"

			        - Marina Bokelman

				  [ Marina, would you at least let us
				    know what blend it is?  Nothing
				    that enjoyable is going to stay
				    legal too long. :-) -S. ] 


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Article Index

Subject: Pipes Digest #245 -- December 14, 1997
Subject: posting from pipes page
Subject: posting from pipes page
Subject: New pipe lighter
Subject: Returned mail: Ambiguous address (fwd)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #244 (Scotch/Cigar)
Subject: another biz to avoid?
Subject: for next PD . . .
Subject: Dr. Grabow set
Subject: An introductory message
Subject: Marxman Pipes
Subject: Kaywoodie collectors?
Subject: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997
Subject: Removing sticky stickers (PD 244)
Subject: Churchwarden pipes
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997
Subject: posting from pipes page
Subject: posting from pipes page
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997
Subject: stuff
Subject: briar hunt
Subject: posting from pipes page
Subject: Digest 244
Subject: SPCA
Subject: Tinsky and others
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997
Subject: House of Robertson, Boise, ID
Subject: Gary Saenz wanting his wife by his side on the back porch
Subject: Thank you for accepting me
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997
Subject: Help: Unusual Antique German Pipe.
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request
Subject: posting from pipes page
Subject: posting from pipes page
Subject: Have you ever heard of this pipe manufacturer?
Subject: posting from pipes page
Subject: posting from pipes page
Subject: Pipes Digest
Subject: Pipesmokers club in Denmark
Subject: posting from pipes page
Subject: Arcadia
Subject: Craven Update
Subject: posting from pipes page
Subject: Pipes Digest
Subject: posting from pipes page
Subject: Swallowing
Subject: Worldchampionship in pipesmoking Italy