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Subject: Pipes Digest 17 - July 9, 1989

			Pipes Digest 17 - July 9, 1989

In the pipeline:

 - Bill Thacker with review comments, inhaling scathes, a stogie query, and
   a truly horrible pun; 
 - Yr. obd't. servant, making the obligatory rejoinders to Bill, and
   reviewing the "Pipe Smoker and Tobacciana Trader" newsletter, which
   finally came!

SPECIAL NOTE: NYC Area Pipesters! Don't forget the New York Pipe Club's
monthly meeting this Tuesday, July 11, at La Bonne Soupe, 48 W. 55th St., at
6:00 P.M. For more details, call Sailorman Jack at (212) 288-3832; reply by
email if you'd care to meet up in the city beforehand! 
(Elias? Are you there? :-)

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From: ????????????????????????????
Subject: Pipal Infallibility

Our Benevolent Sponsor offers:

>I'm playing around with a reviewing system for tobacco, and
>would like to share it with you and get your comments and suggestions
>		--------------------------------------
>	**** Outstanding; I'll make this a regular for sure.
>	***  Very good; a nice "rotation" smoke.
>	**   OK, once in a while.
>	*    Not very good.

You're obviously a die-hard pipe smoker;  I'd have included :
             Even makes bad fertilizer
        ^- zero stars

>Other things to note:
>[ I've been writing a paragraph or two about the tobacco, and trying
>to note these things. Sometimes, I succeed! ]
>- Burning characteristics: time, number of relights, ash produced.

I guess I'm not very good a pipe smoking; at least, not very efficient.
I smoke mostly dark cavendishes, which are relatively tough to keep going
in the first place; and I suspect my tamping technique leaves much to be
desired.  In any case, I tend to have to light frequently.  Of course,
a light Virginia will require fewer lights, even for me.  

In any case, I might suggest that a more useful measure is 
"Ease of Burning", (easy, moderate, difficult, use napalm), which would,
of course, be relative to the individual smoker.

Now, on another matter:

> A bit harsh on the upper palate when blown through the nose. 
>Moderate nicotine buzz afterward.

How many pipe smokers actually inhale the stuff ?  My dad taught me
that pipe smoke isn't to be inhaled, but rather drawn into the mouth and 
puffed out.  Likewise, cigars.

Seems as though most pipe smokers I know agree, but I've met a few
(mostly ex-cigarette smokers) who inhale to the lungs.  I can recall trying
it a few times when I was young and foolish; my old cavendish produced
quite a rush this way,  and got me wondering what exactly went into
flavoring the tobacco, and what it turned into when burned... I stopped
inhaling right away 8-)

Not trying to condemn anyone, of course; whatever floats your boat.

Finally, speaking of cigars; thanks to whoever it was that mentioned
Partagas cigars a few issues back.   I was killing time at a local smoke
shop, and, in between trying a couple bowls of new tobacco blends, noticed
their humidor.   Idly looking, I espied a box of Partagas cigars, and
a chime went off in my head.  I bought one and smoked it on the spot, while
getting something of an education in the ways of the cigar from the 

I must say, I enjoyed the smoke  !  A subtly different sensation from the
pipe, neither better nor worse; just different.  Having previously smoked
cigars on a college budget (i.e., A&C's or Dutch Masters 8-(  ) I had
written them off as an uncouth, and rather Freudian, habit; needless to
say, I've seen the light, and now enjoy the occasional Partagas or
Plieades.  Thanks for tip !

From: Bill Thacker <cbema!wbt>
Subject: Cigars

Having read good things about Partagas cigars in this group, I tried
one, and thoroughly enjoyed it; enough so that it has kindled a 
general interest in cigars.  While they're not strictly in keeping
with a "Pipe Digest", I doubt our Most Munificent and Benevolent
List Maintainer would object to a bit of banter concerning these
stogiceous delights.  And so:

I truly enjoy the finer cigars I've tried; Partagas, Plieades,
and a couple other brands.  But they're just too danged expensive
for my tobacco budget; for the price of one of these, I can get two
ounces of my favorite pipeweed, which lasts much longer.  What I
need is I, guess, a good, fifty-cent cigar.  Any suggestions ?

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Bill Thacker			att!cbema!wbt	     ??????????????????

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From: ?????????????????????????? (Steve Masticola)
Subject: Tamping, inhaling, "Pipe Smoker..." newsletter, etc.

Our Most Prolific Contributor has trouble with tamping? Incredible, in this
day and age!

Seriously, though, I've learned a few things that help in this regard. You
want the pipe to draw about as hard as a good cigar (that is, with some
small resistance), and the tobacco should be packed at the same density all
the way down the bowl.

Sometimes, the tobacco leaves may lock together, especially in long-cut
tobacco (like Cavendish). To unlock them, gently pull them apart as you fill
the bowl. Try filling in stages - in each stage, fill the bowl loosely to
the top, then compress the tobacco until it's springy. When the bowl is
full, compress again until you get the proper draw.

When lighting, first char the surface, then tamp down and char it again. The
first charring helps more of the tobacco catch a light. [Hacker84]

(It also helps to be writing for the Pipes Digest while smoking! :-)

I had a little off-line conversation with Bill about blowing smoke through
the nose; some others may be curious. I don't inhale (except on rare
occasions when I want a little, legal rush! :-), though I have known pipe
smokers who did - their lungs kind of creaked after awhile. Exhaling through
the nose without inhaling smoke is kind of like swallowing while breathing
air out through your nose. I hope those who want to learn to do it will

Lastly, I finally got a-hold-of the "Pipe Smoker and Tobacciana Trader"
newsletter from Pipe Collectors International (P.O. Box 22085, 6172 Airways
Blvd., Chattanooga, TN 37422). I think its appeal is more for the collector
than the recreational pipe smoker - they sponsor conventions, run ads for
pipemakers and specialty tobaccos, and have a small classified section.
Unfortunately, they've just changed from 6 issues per year to four per year
(still at $15 - v.7 n.1 was a 28-page B&W tabloid), due to financial
pressures. It might be worth checking it out for a year, especially for the
collectors or carvers in the group!

Speaking of which, I hope to meet some of you folks in New York next Tuesday
(see above)! Until then, keep your bowls warm and glowing.

					Smoke in peace,
					~\U Steve.

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest 17 - July 9, 1989
  2. Subject: Pipal Infallibility
  3. Subject: Cigars
  4. Subject: Tamping, inhaling, "Pipe Smoker..." newsletter, etc.
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