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Subject: Pipes Digest #82 - October 24, 1992

		 Pipes Digest #82 - October 24, 1992

Welcome to a new member:

	Victor Reijs	(???????????????????????)

Well, it never rains, but it pours! We have lots of mail this week. So
relax, light up, and enjoy...

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From: ???????????????????????????? (Norm Carpenter x3055)
Subject: Pipe material sources.


I've finaly got something worthwhile to write about.  Brian requested some
information about pipe making and sources.  I've made two pipes so far.  One
that was more or less pre-turned for me (shank and stem fitted, but the bowl
had not been worked) and one from scratch (just out of a hunk of dried 
plant root - briar).  I'm smoking the one I made from scratch now, trying
to put a decent cake in the bowl.  The supplies I got from Pimo, Inc.  The
address is:

			Pimo, Inc.
			P.O. Box 482
			Skokie, IL  60077

			(708) 470-0640

They sell an introductory pipe making book "Pimo's guide to Pipe-Crafting
at home".  Really good book  about some pipe history and where briar 
comes from (after that story you might want to rush out and buy a couple
of pipes before they are all gone), and a must if you are starting from

They sell the Plateaux (Blocks of cured briar) and other materials for a 
complete pipe maker.  One of the best tools is the tenon turning tool which
fits tenon and stem together exactly.  A drill press is a good thing to
have.  For the scratch pipe I used, drill press,  table saw, very small
hobby type metal lathe, files, sandpaper et. al.

Haven't tried carving images into a pipe.  For drilling the bowl, I took
a 3/4" spade bit and ground it into a tapered shape.  This worked better
than I had hoped.

Good luck with your project and let us know how it turns out.


[ Thanks for the word, Norm! I've still got 1 or 2 plateaux from
Pimo's that I hope to turn into pipes someday, when I'm wealthy enough
to have some shop space :-) -S. ]

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From: Maverick <???????????????????????????>
To: ???????????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #81 - October 19, 1992

	My dear fellows,

	I recently saw a Savinelli churchwarden for about $60.00.  Is this
	a good deal for a churchwarden?


	"And wyth that fayerest of herbes we haue to vse for the pureposes
	 of repoise and plesures, so I now go forth thereunto to delight
	 in that whych my gheses and ideas take." - any Elizabethan Person.

[ Seems comparable to other prices I've seen... and thanks for yon
quote! -S. ]

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From: "bsmorgan" <???????????????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe repairs, other trivia!

                       Subject:                               Time: 9:28 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          Pipe repairs, other trivia!            Date:10/7/92
Hi -
   I have a couple of pipes where the stem is loose in the shank (one
that will actually fall apart!)  Admittedly, these are not expensive
pipes, but I've grown accustomed to them and like them.  Is there some
way to tighten these up?
   On another note, I have a meerschaum pipe that I've been smoking
about once a week for over a year now - when will it start to
color?????  I'm smoking an aromatic cavendish in it.
   Last question - I will be spending about a week in downtown Detroit
(lucky me!) for a trade show soon.  Are there any great pipe shops I
should visit?  I'll actually be staying in Windsor, Ontario.  Any
leads would be appreciated!
   Thanks for the info!

[ Sorry, Brian, only one question allowed per letter! (Just kidding
:-) I'll repost an article about loose stems which was on the
newsgroup earlier. Re the meerschaum, I don't have any personal
experience (don't like meerschaums because they're so delicate), but
I've heard they may take months to color. Last, I don't know how close
this is to Detroit, but you might want to check out:

	Paul's Pipe Shop and Museum
	647 S. Saginaw St.
	Flint, MI 48502-1588
	(313) 235-0581

Rumored to be legendary. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????? (Norm Carpenter)
Subject: Stem repair from the Golden State
[ Reposted from pipes#65, September 14, 1991. -S. ]

I had the fortunate experience to be within a hundred miles of our
dedicated moderator Steve recently when I was called to NY City rather
briskly on business.  With a suit bag in hand,  ready for the drive to
the airport, I decided to sit down at the system and drop a quick email
note for Steve letting him know that I was going to be on the East
Coast.  I suggested a possible meeting, signed off, and headed East.

Later,  when I had been working at the trouble spot for a day,  I
arrived at my hotel room to find a message from Steve.  I quickly
called him and we agreed to meet for dinner the next day.  Elias was
supposed to join us but he had a prior obligation somewhere else.

During our discussion at dinner the topic of loose stems came up.  I
had told Steve that the tobacco shop owner where I first bought my pipe
had taught me a quick fix for a loose stem.  Steve suggested that I
send this out over the mailgroup.  Not a bad suggestion, so here it

I have a problem of having the stems on my pipe becomming loose over
time.  I think this happens because I get a lot of moisture in my
pipe.  (No, I don't remove the stem while the pipe is hot!)  Anyhow,
when I was a beginner I took my first pipe back to the shop and showed
the guy my problem.  I expected a repair job, but he smiled at me and
said, "I'll show you this once, after that you're on your own."

For those of you who don't know or don't care about the names of pipe parts,
here is a picture:  (please disregard the lousy Ansii art)

                    _________    /   _________/
                   (         )  /   /     ^------------Stem
                   (         ) /\  /         _____          _______
    Bowl --------> (         )/  \/         {     |        |       }
                    (        /   /          { -----      ---       }
                     (__________/ ^         { ----- <    ---       }
                                  |         {_____| |   ^  |_______}  
                                  |                 |   |
                      Shank ------+      Mortise ---+   +--- Tenon

He took my pipe and removed the stem.  He grabbed the thickest pipe cleaner
he had and inserted it into the mouth end of the pipe until it just appeared
at the other end.  Then he lit a match and held it under the stem for a few
seconds (maybe five or so).  The flame never touched the tenon on the stem,
but it did melt the rubber.  After this he quickly pushed the stem against the
counter being careful to hold the stem so that the tenon was as perpendicular
to the counter as possible.  This caused the tenon to bulge a little.

After waiting a few minutes to allow the stem to cool, he grabbed a piece of
sandpaper and started to bring the tenon back down to a size that would fit
the mortise.  When he got close he kept testing the tenon by inserting it
into the mortise.  He cautioned "Never try to force the tenon in,  let it
fit snug, but easy to insert.  Otherwise you'll only end up with a cracked
shank."  (I didn't listen very well because after a year I did crack the
shank on one of my favorite pipes,  but it was repairable with a metel band.)

Once he got the tenon to fit snug, he removed it from the shank and rubbed 
the entire tenon surface with a pencil.  This provided a lubricant (graphite)
and allowed the snug tenon/mortise to fit together nicely.  His last comment
was,  "This 'quick fix' is good for about three times,  after that you are
going to need a new stem."

I would'nt try this method for the first time on your most favorite pipe, but
it does beat sending them in to get repaired.  

[ Thanks for the words from "This Old Pipe", Norm! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????? (s.r.houser)
Subject: Pipes Digest: any collectors out there?

Are there any collectors of rare or collectible pipes out there?
I don't have the time or money to make it to any of the pipe
collectors' shows held around the country, but I would like to
get in touch with anybody in the Pipes Digest mailing list who is
into collecting.  I am, in a small way.

One pipe that I've been on the lookout for is one of the Peterson
Mark Twain collectors' series.  (I'm interested in the "firsts"
in the series, not the "seconds".)  This series came out about
nine years ago.

I've been very impressed by Peterson's Sherlock Holmes series,
both in term of smoking quality and craftsmanship.  That's why
I'd like to add one of the Mark Twains to my collection; I figure
they did as good a job with the Mark Twains as they have with the
Sherlock Holmes.  Does anyone know of a Mark Twain "first" available 
for sale or swap?

Are there any other Peterson smokers/collectors out there?  I've
owned and smoked all the top-shelf brands of pipes, including Dunhills 
and Charatans, but Peterson is still my all-around favorite in terms 
of smokability.  And the Sherlock Holmes series is a cut above even
the standard Peterson.  The Peterson "system" pipes, with the
cavity in the shank to absorb moisture (the innovation that
attracted Mark Twain to the Peterson pipe) smoke great, but I've
also had good luck with the non-System pipes, such as the Kildare.

Steve Houser
AT&T Bell Laboratories

[ I love Petersons, and have a Mark Twain that I got at a show in
Washington in August. Might I suggest you try Levin Pipes
International? They sell a lot of collectable pipes, and every so
often send out photos of their stock. They also have an "on approval"
ordering policy, which I find very attractive for mail order. Their
address is:

	Levin Pipes International
	RFD 1 Box 565
	West Hill Road
	Craftsbury, VT 05826

I'm also planning to buy one of the Sherlock Holmes pipes as a present
for defending my thesis, so if you find a supplier, please let me know
too! -S. ]

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From: Victor Reijs <???????????????????????>
Subject: my first mail over this list

Hello all of you,

This is my first mail over this list. I heard that there was not much
going on but I still hope that people can help me with some question.
But first the following, I am a cigar smoker (so not a pipe smoker),
but I hope that this is no problem for you. I really enjoy sitting
relaxed and smoke a cigar for an hour.  The most important of this, is
that you can not do anything else!

Furthermore I run an Fidonet BBS (2:500/278) in the Netherlands about
wine, beer, liqour, chees, pipe and cigars. I started 1/2/92 and the
most active part is beer. I even wrote to all cigar-associations in
the Netherlands (and there much, because of our past), and these
people never took the keyboard to look at my BBS:-( This is of course
a real pity:-(. I hope to get on this list a better sounding board.

I am looking for methods how you can taste a cigar in a structured way
(I know some books about wine tasting). I am looking for terms which
can be used to describe the tate of the smoke in a simple way (not to
simple, but simple enough to distinquish a cigar/pipe by its

Does somebody have such a structured way of tasting cigars (or pipes)?
The method is the most important and the used terms.

Furthermore do people know about other distributions lists /digest
which handle a good smoke!

All the best,


[ I'm finally out of words of wisdom, Victor, but perhaps our other
Gentle Readers can help! There is a BBS in the US called the Briar
Patch, which has a (somewhat inactive) pipes thread. The thread is run
by Neil Murray, the same fellow who publishes the Agricultural and
Mechanical Gazette.  I don't think they're on Fidonet, but if you'd
like to call them, it's (313) 340-0814. -S. ]

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #82 - October 24, 1992
  2. Subject: Pipe material sources.
  3. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #81 - October 19, 1992
  4. Subject: Pipe repairs, other trivia!
  5. Subject: Stem repair from the Golden State
  6. Subject: Pipes Digest: any collectors out there?
  7. Subject: my first mail over this list
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