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Subject: Pipes Digest #90 - December 19, 1992

		 Pipes Digest #90 - December 19, 1992

Welcome to a new member:

	Gary		(last name withheld at his request; I'm
			 withholding the address because it really
			 doesn't make sense to do one without the
			 other - but there have never been any
			 problems with releasing peoples' names or
			 adresses, honest! This isn't the Multi-Level
			 Marketing mailgroup, after all... :-)

And, in this last weekend before Christmas, join us as we take a break
from the mall madness, light up our favorite Upshall or Kaywoodie by
the Yule log, learn about Michigan tobak shops, and continue a couple
of time-honored debates...

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From: ???????????????????????? (Bill Thacker)
Subject: Cigarus Interruptus

> From: Victor Reijs <???????????????????????>
> Subject: obstruction in cigar
> Could told in the last pipes digest that the effect of difficult
> sucking of a cigar could be compaired to what happens in a pipe, when
> something obstructs the pipe. But I do not understand how you can
> compare this in a cigar? 

> Are there people who have some scientific explanation?

Yes, but let me give my answer first.
The most common cause of cigar blockage (constipanatella, as the ancient 
Romans termed it) is nothing more complicated than that some overworked 
Honduran cigar maker has carelessly rolled a live tobacco worm (actually,
a caterpillar, but I'm sticking with the vernacular) into the cigar.  For
those who've never seen one, an adult tobacco worm is about a half inch 
(12.7mm) around and one to two inches long, shaded in a putrid green.  
They're the only terrestrial life form that can survive eating tobacco (try
it yourself if you don't believe me) and they look about like you'd expect
something that lives on tobacco to look like.  

Anyway, the adults are so big that they're hard to miss; usually it's just
little caterpillars that get rolled up.  Mostly they get squished; after a
month or two the juices get soaked up by the cigar.  The dessicated husk
that remains doesn't prevent smoking the cigar, although a slightly pungent
or putrid flavor may remain.

Sometimes the tobacco worm survives the trauma of being rolled up.  If it
does, it finds itself in tobacco worm heaven, and usually responds by
eating a cavity into the cigar.  If you like your cigars fresh, then a
blocked stogie probably indicates the presence of a live, near-adult worm.
That's the better of your two options.

Given time, the caterpillar will mature, spin a coccoon, and change into
a butterfly.  They're actually quite lovely, marked with purple and gold
and scarlet, but it hardly matters because you're only going to see it for
a couple of seconds as it shoots from the end of your lit cigar, bursts
into flames, and falls lifeless to the floor, leaving a trail of acrid

Anyway, I don't mean to sound alarmist.  This rarely happens; heck, I've
only seen it a couple of times myself, and it's not really *that* gross
once you get used to it.

Enjoy! 8-)

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Bill Thacker    AT&T Network Systems - Columbus  attmail!att!cbemf!wbt
Quality Engineer      Network Wireless Systems        ?????????????????

[ Gee, uh, thanks, Bill! Well, at least with pipes, you can catch the
worms before you light up... BTW, I brewed tobacco into tea once -
that was quite enough! )8-b Please use tobak only as directed, and
know your limits. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????? (Robert Byron Sweet)
Subject: no subject (file transmission)

In regards to a previous request for information about pipe shops
in Michigan, and in response to John Perry's input about
Campbell's Smoke Shop in particular.

I know of three shops in Michigan:

There is a shop in the mall in Battle Creek which has a variety
of blends, as well as a decent collection of pipes, especially
carved meershaum ones. I've purchased a couple of pipes there,
including a decent meershaum job, though I've really come to the
conclusion that meershaum is just too darn soft to make a day to
day pipe out of.  Battle Creek is a smallish town, and you can't
miss the Mall if you drive down I94.  The mall is just South of
the express way.

The second shop I know of is in the ground floor of the Fisher
building next door to General Motors headquarters in downtown
Detroit. This shop also sells small snack items (gum, candybars,
etc.) and is really a cigar shop, not a pipe shop. Not having
been there in a couple of years I can't recall if they even sell
house blends of pipe tobacco.  The cigar collection on the other
hand is decent.

Third there is Campbell's Smoke Shop in East Lansing. Campbell's
is a nice place with a polite staff. (I detest snobbish store
clerks) I recently went in with a friend and we both bought new
Savanelli pipes there, as well as a few varieties of tobbaco. I
particularly like blend #2 (a full English blend, though a bit
harsh), blend #16 (English and American tobaccos), and blend #23
(a nice flavorful blend that has almost no bite). I also
purchased a half dozen cigars, relying upon the advise of the
shopkeeper.  Though decent, I've come to the conclusion that I'm
just not a cigar smoker, I'm a pipe man.

I've smoked a pipe for about ten years, but have only recently
moved beyond the standard store bought 'Dr. Grabow' pipes. I'm
truly amazed at how much better a quality pipe draws and stays
lit. Speaking of staying lit, I've come to the conclusion that
the bigger the bowl the better. I have a new pipe with a bowl
that has roughly the volume of 1 1/2 golf balls, and it is a far
more pleasant smoke than any previous pipe I've had.

I'd like to close with a couple of conversations starters, refering
back to a couple of my comments above:

	1)  What is the general opinion of meershaum pipes?

	2)  Big bowls vs. little bowls.

[ Thanks for the word, Robert! Regarding your questions, I personally
don't like meerschaums, because of the delicacy you mentioned, and
also because the bits are too hard and don't chomp very well. I also
prefer big versus little bowls at different times, depending on my
mood. However, as they say in the TV editorials, we welcome opposing
viewpoints... -S. ]

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From: Gary
Subject:  Question #1

My question revolves around the matter of opinions.  I have learned the pipe
smoking trade through the fairly traditional blue collar manner.  By this, I
mean that I learned upon "Dr. Garbow" pipes and "Sir Walter Raleigh Pipe
Tobacco".  I still use both predominately, and learned the "art" from the
similar experiences of my father and grandfather.  My questions are...

1)  What is the impression that the "elite" have of the Dr. Garbow line?
Is there an inherent loss of quality as compared with more pricey pipes?  Or,
perhaps is the value only that of greater "artistry" in the more
expensive pipes?

2)  Sir Walter Raliegh is an inexpensive tobacco that seems to be
different from "gourmet" brands mainly in the cut.  In SWR the cut
is like that of small squares, while the "gourmet" brands usually
have a more shag-rug apperance.  SWR seems to need less "tending" to than the
gourmet blends and seems heavier.  What are your impressions in comparing the
SWR brand with others?

[ Welcome to the group, Gary! I don't remember trying SWR (except in
ham radio .... ..), but it sounds like a "cube cut" tobak. Nothing
wrong with that, in and of itself. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????? (Richard Davis-Minter)
Subject: re: pipe smoking

     Awhile back you posted an article in sci.med about
pipe smokers living longer than non-smokers. I would
be interested to find out the source of that info, if
you still have any of the references. 
     Thanks for any help you might be able to give.

                     Richard Davis-Minter

[ Richard is not a member, and I've tried to reply to him but the mail
bounced. The article he's referring to was, I believe, in
alt.folklore.urban. I have the text of the newspaper article on-line,
but parts of it violate the no-flames policy, so I won't post it here.
But I will mail it to any interested parties. Also, if anyone can
track down a good mail path to Richard, I'd appreciate the help. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????? (s.r.houser)
Subject: re: Pipes Digest #88 - December 5, 1992


Thanks for the dose of reality.  I'd forgotten how much of a pain
undergraduates can be.  I taught freshman English while I was
getting my MA in English.

I think what I miss is the independence and the loose schedule.
I definitely don't miss the low pay.  :-)


[ Glad to oblige, Steve! -S. ]

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #90 - December 19, 1992
  2. Subject: Cigarus Interruptus
  3. Subject: no subject (file transmission)
  4. Subject: Question #1
  5. Subject: re: pipe smoking
  6. Subject: re: Pipes Digest #88 - December 5, 1992
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