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Subject: Pipes Digest #96 - February 14, 1993

		 Pipes Digest #96 - February 14, 1993

Well, happy Valentine's Day to all, and welcome to new members:

	J. Fulper (?)		(???????????????????????)
	Charles Myers		(?????????????????????????)

And, in honor of Valentine's Day, I'll post the following poem by
Rudyard Kipling. If nothing else, it shows that people have been
conflicted about tobak, and love, for a long time. (Yes, I know it's
sexist, but after all, Kipling was writing for a male audience nearly
110 years ago. For the [too-few] women reading this list, I might
suggest that you swap the gender of the terms, and poke fun at those
misguided males who don't appreciate a good cigar. Another alternative
would be to gender-neutralize the poem, e.g., "a Yuppie is only a
Yuppie..."  The thump-thump-thump you hear is Kipling spinning in his
grave :-) Enjoy!  -S.

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			  by Rudyard Kipling

	    'You must choose between me and your cigar' -
		*Breach of Promise Case, circa* 1885.

Open the old cigar-box, get me a Cuba stout,
For things are running crossways, and Maggie and I are out.

We quarrelled about Havanas - we fought o'er a good cheroot,
And *I* know she is exacting, and she says I am a brute.

Open the old cigar-box - let me consider a space;
In the soft blue veil of the vapour musing on Maggie's face.

Maggie is pretty to look at - Maggie's a loving lass,
But the prettiest cheeks must wrinkle, the truest of loves must pass.

There's peace in a Larranaga, there's calm in a Henry Clay;
But the best cigar in an hour is finished and thrown away -

Thrown away for another as perfect and ripe and brown -
But I could not throw away Maggie for fear o' the talk o' the town!

Maggie, my wife at fifty - grey and dour and old -
With never another Maggie to purchase for love or gold!

And the light of Days that have Been the dark of the Days that Are,
And Love's torch stinking and stale, like the butt of a dead cigar -

The butt of a dead cigar you are bound to keep in you pocket -
With never a new one to light tho' it's charred and black to the socket!

Open the old cigar-box - let me consider a while.
Here is a mild Manila - there is a wifely smile.

Which is the better portion - bondage bought with a ring,
Or a harem of dusky beauties, fifty tied with a string?

Counsellors cunning and silent - comforters true and tried,
And never a one of the fifty to sneer at a rival bride?

Thought in the early morning, solace in time of woes,
Peace in the hush of the twilight, balm ere my eyelids close,

This will the fifty give me, asking nought in return,
With only a *Suttee's* passion - to do their duty and burn.

This will the fifty give me. When they are spent and dead,
Five times other fifties shall be my servants instead.

The furrows of far-off Java, the isles of the Spanish Main,
When they hear my harem is empty will send me my brides again.

I will take no heed to their raiment, nor food for their mouths withal,
So long as the gulls are nesting, so long as the showers fall.

I will scent 'em with best vanilla, with tea will I temper their hides,
And the Moor and the Mormon shall envy who read of the tale of my brides.

For Maggie has written a letter to give me my choice between
The wee Little whimpering Love and the great god Nick o'Teen.

And I have been servant of Love for barely a twelvemonth clear,
But I have been Priest of Cabanas a matter of seven year;

And the gloom of my bachelor days is flecked with the cheery light
Of stumps that I burned to Friendship and Pleasure and Work and Fight.

And I turn my eyes to the future that Maggie and I must prove,
But the only light on the marshes is the Will-o'-the-Wisp of Love.

Will it see me safe through my journey or leave me bogged in the mire?
Since a puff of tobacco can cloud it, shall I follow the fitful fire?

Open the old cigar-box - let me consider anew -
Old friends, and who is Maggie that I should abandon *you*?

A million surplus Maggies are willing to bear the yoke;
And a woman is just a woman, but a good Cigar is a Smoke.

Light me another Cuba - I hold to my first sworn vows.
If Maggie will have no rival, I'll have no Maggie for Spouse!

[ Copped from alt.quotations; Simon Read (????????????????????), who
is not on the pipes list, posted originally. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????? (Norm Carpenter x3055)
Subject: Re:  Pipes Digest #95 - February 6, 1993

[ I smell a Tall Tales contest coming on... -S. ]


I don't remember anyone challenging Bill's credability!?!?!?!  I think that
all of the members should be given the same consideration.  


[ A contest takes two participants; IMHO, both are equally incredible
:=) Please take that as a compliment, and keep the tales coming! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????????????????? (Thomas Krausche)

Hello Steve,

in digest#94 you wrote about the possibility to get back issues of the 
Pipes Digest. I have joined the mailgroup with number 92, and would
like to have the previous issues of the digest as well. 

Last week I have been in Istanbul, also known as the gate to orient. 
I wanted to take the opportunity and smoke a water pipe (Nargileh)
somewhere in a turkish coffeehouse. Believe it or not, we could not
find a location where to smoke a nargileh!! Even in the big oriental 
bazar nobody seems to know where we could smoke a water pipe in
Therefore, I buyed a nargileh by myself, together with 500g tobacco
(called tombak or tombeky). Because I need some charcoal for smoking, 
I have to wait for the next barbecue party in summer, before I can 
test the nargileh.
Does anybody have some experience with water pipes ? 
Keep on smoking !

Cheerio Thomas.

[ Issues sent. Personally, I have no experience with water pipes that
involved tobacco :-) But have been interested for some time in the
concept. Any others? -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????? (Charles Myers)

        I saw mention of your group in the Coterie collectors directory.
        I have been a pipe smoker for a number of years and I am
        considering doing some collecting.  I just purchased an older
        GBD bent bulldog in the original box.  How can I determine its
        age and value. I am chales Myers, the science Librarian at 
        Franklin and Marshall College in Lancaster PA...home of 
        the oldest tobacco store in the US...Demuths Pipe Shop...sadly

[ My suggestions would be to take it to a pipe show and see what you
can get for it; there are shows coming up in New York in March,
Washington DC in May. As far as I know, there is no established price
guide for pipes. Any other ideas? And thanks for joining us! -S. ]

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From: "Brian Morgan" <?????????????????????>

                       Subject:                               Time:9:51 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          Network stuff, Orlando, Cuba...        Date:2/11/93
Hi -
   First of all, I was wondering if I am still on the list, under my "username
du jour", ??????????????????????  I haven't received any digests for a while. 
The net config has changed here several times in the last two weeks, and I
think we're finally done!
Now for the serious stuff...
   I will be in Orlando for a couple of days later this month, and I was
wondering if anyone could recommend one or two "really neat" pipe shops to
visit - there aren't any listed in the resource guide I have.  Also, is it
still illegal to buy Cuban cigars in the US?  I thought I had heard that the
ban had been lifted.
        Brian Morgan

[ Username changed and missed issue sent. I'll check the latest
Ephemeris later and see if they say anything about pipe shops in
Orlando. Meanwhile, does anyone have more direct experience? -S. ]

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