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Subject: Pipes Digest #110 - September 10, 1993

		Pipes Digest #110 - September 10, 1993

Welcome to new members:

	Sixto A. Gonzalez	(??????????????)
	W. Kent Walker		(??????????????????)
	Wade D. Corbett		(??????????????????)
	Jerry A Flotta		(????????????????????)

Quite a lot of activity this week! And not all related to the proposed
tobak newsgroup, either! Onward, Gentle Readers... light 'un up and
have yourself a little peruse.

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From: ???????????????? (David Chesler)
Subject: Better Nat Sherman's address

  While vacationing this week, and enjoying Nat Sherman's Mint (beaches, and
cottages with ashtrays and without flammable clutter, and nightclubs, are
more condusive to smoking, especially cigarettes, than is the firetrap I call
home), I found a better address than the one I hurriedly sent out last week.
(Who's this Chris character anyway? :-) )

      "If your favorite Nat Sherman cigarettes are not available at your
            local tobacco counter, please mail this order form to:
           Nat Sherman, Inc.  500 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10110
         Call toll-free: 800-221-1690 or fax your order: 212-246-8639"
 Although they do have a full catalog, the order form referenced mentions only
their cigarettes, which are generally $30 per carton of 200 cigarettes,
$4 postage and handling for the first three cartons.
 And speaking of Marlboro-bashing, it's not such a bad cigarette (just like
a Big Mac isn't such a bad hamburger) and it is readily available.  On the
other hand, I tried the Menthol (my wife likes mint) and found it unsmokably

           - David Chesler (????????????????), not only an enjoyer of fine
                  tobacco, but also lately a non-addicted nicotine savorer.

[ Thanks, David! I'll modify the Resource Guide to include the new
address for Sherman's, and also try to avoid bashing Marlboros. We
didn't do that, did we? -S. ]

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From: Colin Crist <???????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #109 - September 3, 1993


Your mention of lighting up a Dunhill brings to mind a question I was
pondering recently.

Dunhill have cigars by sold by year of making, now I was wondering that 
except for the time for the tobacco to mature and mellow, is this anything
more that a sales gimmick ?

Can anyone really notice the difference in a 1988 and 1989 because of
better growing conditions ?

My strong suspicion is that of a sales ploy - anyone know for sure ?


[ I'm 100% certain that someone, somewhere, does. :-) Non-smart-alecks
who know the real answer are urged to follow up. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????? (Sixto A. Gonzalez)
Message-Id: <??????????????????????????????????????>
To: ??????????????????????
Subject: arturo fuente hemingway signature
Status: R

 This is my first message to this list as I just recently joined and I thought
I would just ask a quick question. I usually buy different boxes of cigar for
variety, these get split three ways as two of my friends and myself have a
'cigar consortium' and thus we get to buy cigars more often and try different
ones than we otherwise would if one person had to smoke the whole box. At any
rate my absolute favorite cigar which I sporadically go back to is the before
mentioned Fuente Hemingway. the problem is that my usual source (Famous in NY)
has been out of these now for about 4 months. Can anyone tell me where else I
might purchase these.??
Sixto A. Gonzalez
Center for Atmospheric and Space Sciences
Utah State University
after 9/15
National Astronomy and Ionosphere Center
Arecibo Observatory

[ I'll try to remember to check next time I go to the store. Or
perhaps Holt's in Philadelphia might have them? I know they do mail
order. And send my best to the little green men when you get to NRAO.
(They're probably green because they've been deprived of their Arturo
Fuentes...) -S. ]

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From: Neil Flatter <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #109 - September 3, 1993

>Concerning the newsgroup proposal, you said:
>> [ Don't be down, Martin. Yes, it'll be an uphill struggle, but one
>> worth struggling for. -S. ]
>I wonder.  You've done a superb job with this mailgroup, and the
>level of discussion on it is far beyond anything I've seen on
>Usenet.  A newsgroup is just too accessible to the idiot fringe.  I
>suspect the folks who say "ignore them;  they'll go away" haven't
>seen really determined bigots in action, and aren't paying for their
>newsfeeds (neither am I, but some folks are).  As I learned in the
>case of Homebrew Digest, wider circulation is a mixed blessing, at

As I see it, a newsgroup's accessability is a huge advantage.  Many
people subscribe to Homebrew Digest and/or read rec.crafts.brewing
before that actually make the investment to start brewing on their
own.  This gives them security in knowning that good advice is close
at hand.

When I first started smoking a pipe, I did like so many other people:
I bought a filtered Dr. Graybo and some Apple tobaccoo that had been
sitting on the drug store shelf for three million years.  [Reflective
pause to light my Ben Wade.]  Had it not been for a patient staff at
the local pipe shop, I'd probably be one of those anti-smoking freak
you're concerned about.  A newsgroup has the visibility to help these
neophites enjoy the pleasures of a good pipe.  It might also help
present an acurate representation of the risks involved in contrast
to the media lumping pipe smokers in with smokeless tobaccoo and
cigarette smokers.

  Neil Flatter                 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
  Chemistry - Math (CMA)       Department of Chemistry
  Novell Supervisor            Chemistry Stockroom Manager
  ???????????????????????????      (812) 877 - 8316

[ Thanks for the endorsement, Neil! Glad to have you with us, and I
quite agree. -S. ]

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From: "Wade D. Corbett" <??????????????????>
Status: R

Please add me to the Pipes Mailgroup routing list.  I smoke "fine" cigars
and occasionally my pipe, but I despise cigarettes.  Good luck with the
newsgroup.  I'm one of the many who've previously searched for such a
newsgroup with obviously no luck.  It's news to me that there was a
mailing list.  I hope that my inclusion not only satisfies my interest,
but also adds support in numbers to the newsgroup effort.


[ Thanks for your interest, Wade. I must say that, regardless of
anything else, the discussion has netted us a lot of fresh blood. -S. ]

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #110 - September 10, 1993
  2. Subject: Better Nat Sherman's address
  3. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #109 - September 3, 1993
  4. Subject: arturo fuente hemingway signature
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #109 - September 3, 1993
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