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Subject: Pipes Digest #118 - November 19, 1993

		Pipes Digest #118 - November 19, 1993

Welcome to new members:

	E. Neal Blue		(???????????????????????????????)
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	William Vinc Jaeger	(????????????????????)
	Steve Beaty 		(?????????????????)
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	/Joar Nilsson		(?????????????????)
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	Matt Davidson		(????????????????????????????)
	Lord Stahl		(???????????????????????????????)

The alt.smokers postings are generating quite a bit of interest!
However, we still got mailer problems with some of our Bitnet members.
If there's someone who knows whether the cunyvm.cuny.edu gateway or
Bitnet itself has changed in the last month or so, could you please
drop me a note?

For our U.S. members, here's wishing you a happy Thanksgiving, and
remember not to drop your tobak in the turkey!  And, after dinner's
done and the dishes are clean, why not retire to the smoking room,
light up, and sort through the mail...

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From: Martin A Miller <?????????????????????????>
Subject: H. Uppman offer..


Just read Digest #117, and saw a request for the address, and some
info on H. Uppman's cigar offer.  I've also gotten some mail regarding
this offer.  I must apologize for not posting the info; takes time to
hone that "netsense"  :)

Here's the facts:
$10 gets you 12 Churchills in a nice (plastic) case.  I have gotten
them and I'm quite impressed with their freshness, decent draw, and

Here's the address:

H. Uppman
P.O. Box 24146W
Richmond, VA.  23224

Allow 6-8 weeks for delivery..

Martin A. Miller
Bon Vivant-At-Large
Internet: ?????????????????????????
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UUCP    : ???????????????????????????????

[ Thanks a lot for the info, Martin! I've already sent in my ten
bucks! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????? (Jon Baker)
Subject: Cubans


> Does anyone know if the United States is the only nation with a ban on
> Cuban cigars? 

I believe so.

> I understand you can legally buy them in Canada.  Is it
> then illegal to bring them back into the U.S.? 

Yes.  The importation of any Cuban products/services into the U.S.
via any means is strictly forbidden, as is the export of products
from the U.S. to Cuba, via any route.

> Is it illegal for a
> Canadian business to send Cuban cigars to individuals in the U.S.?


Cuban cigars in Canadian duty-free shops are intended to be taken out
of Cuba, but not into the U.S.  However, with the Cold War ending and
with recent and impending events in Cuba, I do not expect this ban to
last into the next century.  I look forward to the day when I will be
able to sample Cuban cigars.  In my semi-frequent trips to Mexico, I
have been unable to find any.  I'm sure I'm just going to the wrong
places (tourist areas), so if anyone has any tips on where Cubans can
be had in the more popular Mexican destinations, please let me know!


Unlike wine or scotch, I have not found that cigars store well for
any period of time.  Someone mentioned, though, that under the 
proper conditions they can last quite a while.  Short of building
my own fully-enclosed hermetically-sealed walk-in humidor, what 
conditions will keep a cigar fresh for more than a month?  It had
been my impression that all tobacco products were best used fresh.

I question the value of stockpiling tobacco products to avoid
taxes anyway.  I don't think the per-unit taxes on cigars or pipe
tobaccos are going to go up much; does anyone have actual figures?
Even the 75c tax on a pack of cigarettes (watered down from the
originally proposed $2) is in jeopardy, as Clinton may cut a deal
with congressmen from tobacco-growing states to get votes on NAFTA.

Jon Baker

[ Actually, I've heard that the quality of the Cubans has gone down in
recent years, due to the sad state of the economy... can someone
verify or refute this? -S. ]

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From: Edward N Blue <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Moderated mailgroup for cigars, pipes, fine tobacco


     Thank you for putting me on your list.  I originally got on to
alt.smokers because I wanted to hear how other people rated different
cigars.  It seems that 75% of the posts to alt.smokers are pro/con
flames on the act of smoking itself.  I just want posts of new
cigar/pipe/tobac. accessories.

     Now that you are going to post a moderated pipe mailgroup, I
would like to know how pipe tobacco is processed.  In the past 2 years
I have learned what it takes to process cigar tobacco.  This would
greatly expand my knowledge.  Also I want to know about the quality of
the mega expensive pipes like Charatan, Davidoff, and Duhill.

     At my fraternity in West Lafayette, Indiana we sit around at the
Midwest Farm Management Center and debate the finer points of pipe
tobacco smoked in briar vs corn cob pipes.  We now have a private
stock of cigars in a humidor at the center.  Someday some of the
fraternity brothers are going to take some Southern Indiana tobacco
and try to make it into long filler cigars, the way the Dominicans do

     Once again, thanks for the post.  Please direct the posts to:



                                             E. Neal Blue

[ I'd recommend a trip to your favorite (well-stocked) library to
check out Carl Ehwa's _The Book of Pipes and Tobacco._ It has one of
the most comprehensive sections on pipe tobacco I've seen. And, IMHO,
improvements in pipe quality level off fairly rapidly with price above
$100. (Your mileage may vary.) Thanks for the note, and welcome!  -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #117 - November 15, 1993

To my fellow tobacco affectionados:

A very close friend once gave me a lighter which he had treasured for
many years.  I used it for several years and then gave it to a friend
to enjoy.  It was unfortunately lost several years later.  Although
that particular lighter has sentimental value to myself and my two
friends, I was wondering if it is still availble to purchase.  Perhaps
you can help me locate one...or three.

It is a Calibri (I think that's how it's spelled) flip top butane
model with a red light that comes on when you pop the lid.  If you
break the beam of light it ignites.  The case was gold with turtoise
inlays.  Like other lighters from the Calibri company, it was good
quality.  It is this particular model I'm interested in.  If other
finishes were made, I would be interested in them as well.  Thanks in


[ OK, Scottie! You might also want to check Levin Pipes, from the
Resource Guide, which occasionally has lighters. -S. ]

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From: "Kameran Kashani" <????????????????????????>
Subject: Introduction and Tobacco Reference


My name is Kam Kashani, and I'm a technical writer working for Silicon
Graphics. I live in Santa Cruz, CA and commute to Mountain View, CA
(about 45 miles, one-way), so I visit tobacco stores from Santa Cruz
to Redwood City.

I am a cigar smoker migrating to a pipe. It's amazing how much less
expensive a good pipe smoke is than a comparable cigar ;-) The only
problem I'm having with the pipe is finding out what all the tobacco
varieties are and how they contribute to aroma and taste.

Can anyone recommend a good book on the subject of tobacco in general,
or on pipe tobacco in particular?  It would be nice to have a
reference to varieties, where in the world they are grown, curing
techniques, and so forth.


Kam Kashani

[ See the above reco for Carl Ehwa's book; Alfred Dunhill's _The Pipe
Book_ and Rick Hacker's _The Ultimate Pipe Book_ are also worth
reading. -S. ]

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #118 - November 19, 1993
  2. Subject: H. Uppman offer..
  3. Subject: Cubans
  4. Subject: Re: Moderated mailgroup for cigars, pipes, fine tobacco
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #117 - November 15, 1993
  6. Subject: Introduction and Tobacco Reference
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