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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest #123 - December 17, 1993

		Pipes Digest #123 - December 17, 1993

Welcome to new members:

	Larry Finch		(??????????????????)
	ghpatrick		(?????????????????)
	Tierney			(????????????????????????????????????????
	Christopher A Bryan	(???????????????????)
	Adrian Gold		(????????????????????????????)
	Dan Killingsworth	(???????????????????)
	Michael H. Hoeflich	(????????????????????)
	James Conforti		(????????????????)
	Shawn Logsdon		(?????????????????????)
	Bruce Morris		(??????????????)
	aswalla			(???????????????)

We seem to be getting a lot of new members from America On-Line these
days! Is there something going on over there? 

And now, join us as we discuss corncobs, philosophy, the law,
journalism, and, of course, fine tobak...

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From: ???????????????? (David Chesler)
Subject: Home-made pipes

  I vaguely recall from childhood trips to historic villages (which were
Dutch in greater New York) that clay pipes were built not with two pieces,
but with a "lost wax" method.  (I'd guess any world advanced enough to
have fine clay, and that with which to light their pipes, would have
some form of wax -- bees or tallow.)  The wax is formed into where the
hole goes, the clay is formed around the hole, and then when the clay is
fired the wax runs out.

  Now two folks have posted that it's easy to make corn cob pipes:  Although
the season for fresh sweet corn is departed in New England, please tell!

  I did bring two Cuban cigars home from Canada in 1978 (before I knew what
to do with them, and it was a high school bus trip, so I didn't actually 
declare anything through customs.)  Considering what other intoxicants we 
had on board, commie tobacco was probably the least thing to worry about.
(My impression, not based on hard sources, is that US citizens and businesses
may not do business with Cuba, but not that Cuban products were always
forbidden [as is the case now with ivory] although I could well be wrong,
especially if things changed in the last decade.)

     - David Chesler (????????????????)

[ Well, I wouldn't recommend using a wet ear of sweet corn for this,
David! What you need are: one dry corncob (you can usually find these
around farms, or use an Indian-corn Thanksgiving decoration), one dry
hollow milkweed stem (the kind with the long thin seed pods), and a
pocket knife. Cut the milkweed stem to about six inches and break a
two-inch length off the corncob. Hollow out the cob to within about
1/4 inch from the bottom, and drill a hole in the side with the knife.
The stem should fit snugly in the hole and should come in just above
the cob insides you left at the bottom of the bowl. Fill with tobacco
and enjoy! 

BTW, the tobak that smokes best with this procedure is the kind you
steal from your dad.  For complete authenticity, sneak out into the
woods to light up. :-) -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: Cigars

This is my first posting to the group.

I am a Macanudo and Hoyo fan.  Been smoking Macanudos for over 15
years now.  I particularly love a smoke accompanied by a good Island
Malt Whisky (like Lagavulin or Laphroaig).  I prefer the ring sizes
around 50 and 6-8 inch in length.

I have purchased Cuban cigars (Upmann, Los Statos, and Cohiba all
Havanas), and brought them into the US with impunity. Most recently at
the duty-free shop right at the Los Cabos airport in Baja.  Private
citizens were not prohibited from buying them outside the US and
bringing them in in limited numbers for their own use.  As I
understand it, direct trade with Cuba is the issue - not cigars.  I
have also had friends ship them to me from Guantanamo Bay!  I have
noticed that Havanas have gone down in quality considerably in the
last 5 years.  My last batch of Cohibas were nothing special at all,
and when I heard that Davidoff has stopped making Cubans, that did it
for me.

I recently purchased a couple of 18 inch (! that's right !) Generals
(ring size 60).  Has anyone dared to try one of these yet.  I'm
waiting for a 5-6 hour stretch when I can sit down and light that
model up!  Another new one I've been trying, along the milder side
like Macanudo, is Avo.  Anyone tried them?

I have had a problem with a large percentage of my Hoyo Excaliburs
lately.  They do not burn evenly, and frequently unravel!  Is anyone
else experincing this difficulty?  Great flavor, but the construction
seems to be poor lately.

Well, happy smoking,

Ron Nadel

[ Thanks for the word, Ron! BTW, Cigar Aficionado had an article in a
recent issue about single-malt whiskys, including the unpronouncable
kinds. -S. ]

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From: JOHN BARR (HSLC) <????????????????????>
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #122 - December 10, 1993

Address and phone for Holt's Tobacconist:
114 S. 16th St.
Philadelphia, PA 19103
(215) 563-0763

Modest pipe and pipe tobacco selection, huge room-size cigar humidor.
Pens a specialty.  Mail order.

I believe this is now Phila's oldest surviving tobacconist.

John Barr

[ This may be a repeating theme... -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????? (Charles Myers)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #122 - December 10, 1993

        Address for Holt's is 114 S. 16th street  Philadelphia, PA 19102
        800-523-1641.  I agree the store is not what it used to be for pipes
        or anyone interested in talking about pipes or tobacco.  They do have 
        several good blends...Burlington Arcade is an old blend Holt's took 
        over, a flake cut easy to pack with nice flavor and aroma.Their blend
        101 is mild but very aromatic...a good beginners smoke.  Concerning 
        Tobacco shop blends it has been my experience that they are often too 
        moist, I tend to leave several ounces spread out on newspaper or in
        old baking tins to dry out, this gets some curious looks in my office 
        and we won't go in to what my wife has to say about it at home.  I'm
        wondering if anyone out there has tried drying out tobacco in an oven
        or if they would suggest or discourage such an activity.  I prefer
        a dry tobacco I think it burns better and makes for a more relaxed
        smoke. Thoughts on cancer.  Moderation.  If I'm going out to 
        spend a night drinking beer and talking I'll switch to cigaretts or 
        a H. Upmann 2000, I try to limit pipes to 2 bowls a day.  I am of the
        ilk that believes there is a strong genetic component to cancer so I
        would suggest a good look at the family tree.

[ Too bad about Holt's; I used to love that place when I was an
undergraduate. Ah, well... -S. ]

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From: "Marios H. Agrotes" <???????????????????????>
Subject:      Suggestions for cigars to try.

???????????????????????? wrote:

>  Canaria d'oro (baby 65c) -- harsh, nothing good about it
>  Juan Clemente (Demitasse $2.10) -- Nicely strong, but more bitter than
>  sweet  Royal Jamaican (Pirate $1.80) -- Too Weak taste, what little
>  there was was mainly metallic or sour, possible hint of sweetness
>  And today I picked up:
>    Danneman Menor Sumatra small cigars
>    Henry Clay
>    Petrus
>  and Cake Box Connecticut Valley

>Any suggestions for other varieties I might enjoy?

I have two suggestions for you: 1) Try some of the Honduran handmades;
they are generally more robust in taste, and closer to the old style
havanas.  Some of the best values right now IMHO, are the "Hoyo de
Monterrey" and "Punch" (actually made by the same factory) brands.
2) Try some of the higher quality, more complex, but still not very
heavy, Dominican handmades.  Two of the best lines in the world right
now (again IMHO), are the "Arturo Fuente" and the "Partagas" brands.
Try any of the thicker than 45 ring Fuentes, or the Partagas #10.

>     - David Chesler (????????????????)

Hope this helps a little

Marios H. Agrotes

[ I agree about the Partagas, so far... -S. ]

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From: James Taranto <?????????????????>
Subject: Importing Cuban cigars

There are, in fact, two ways to import Cuban cigars legally in the
United States:

1. If you are a U.S. citizen and you visit Cuba itself, you are
allowed to bring back up to 100 Cuban cigars, worth up to $400, for
personal use.  The catch is that the only U.S. citizens allowed to
travel to Cuba are people who have relatives there, and scholars,
journalists, and diplomats traveling on business.

2. If you are not a U.S. citizen, you may bring in Cuban cigars for
personal use.  I'm not sure how many you're allowed to bring, but I
imagine the rules are the same as for U.S. citizens returning from
Canada.  I stopped at a duty-free shop along the Quebec-Vermont border
a few months ago, and they were selling Montecristos and Bances from
Havana, but only to non-Americans.  The only place to go when you
leave the parking lot of this shop is over the bridge to the U.S.

Someone said earlier that "personal use" meant you can't sell or give
them away; I doubt, however, that giving them as a gift violates the
law.  Selling them probably would, however.

James Taranto  ?????????????????

[ Well, the "journalist" thing is easy to use... a friend of mine
travels there routinely and just writes a samizdat article when she
comes back. But... you can bring them back from Cuba, but not from
Canada????? -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: Any other hams?

Hey Steve,

Good question -  how many of us are hams?  I'm KC6TXU, licensed since
1991 and currently hold an Advanced license (though my code speed is
probably about 1 or 2 WPM now!!).  Speaking of walking around hamfests - 
we have one here in the summer at a local JC, and one of the goodies I
found there last year was a circular pipe rack whose center pillar
was carved in the shape of an 807 transmitting tube!

73, Joe

[ Just you, me, and VE5ZU/VE3 so far... KC6TXU DE KF2IO K ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re:  Subscription

Thanks for the welcome. I'm a pipe smoker of many years standing,
having started in 1962 or thereabouts. I quit for a number of years in
between, then picked it up again around 1980. I not that you listed
Pipeworks in NYC; I have dealt with them from time to time. Their own
pipes, made by Elliot Nachwalter, are excellent.

My favorite pipemaker is not currently listed, so here it is:

   S&R WoodCrafts
   4244 East Main Street
   Colombus, OH 43213

"S" and "R" are Steve and Roswitha Anderson. Both are pipemakers. Steve does
primarily high quality classic pipes, and Rose makes mostly freehands, also
of very high quailty. Their regular pipes range from $65 to $300, and they
have some specials that run into several thousand (such as a 7 day set, all
straight grain with curved smokeholes).

They also have an excellent set of tobacco blends which they ship anywhere.
They offer an automatic delivery program.

They appear at a few craft shows during the summer.

That's all I have for now--I'll probably send more after I read the digest


[ Thanks for the word, Larry! Don't own any S&R pipes, but I had a
chat with Roswitha a while ago, at a show in Arlington, VA, about how
to make the curved shank holes. Verrry interesting!  -S. ]

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From: Neil Flatter <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Thompson sampler

I just got the Gold Medal sampler from Thompson.  It has 6 different
styles of cigars, 42 cigars in all, for $12.90.  If you're looking
for a quick way to try several styles of reasonable cigars, this is
it.  Most seem to be short filers, but all have a nice taste.  (Even
my wife didn't object to smell of all but one style!)
  Neil Flatter                 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
  Chemistry - Math (CMA)       Department of Chemistry
  Novell Supervisor            Chemistry Stockroom Manager
  ???????????????????????????      (812) 877 - 8316

[ Great, Neil! To save the flood of requests, how does one order the
Gold Medal Sampler? -S. ]

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From: Neil Flatter <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Holt address

Even though I figure you'll get a hundred responses, the Holt flyer I
got last week shows the address as:

Holt's Cigar Company
114 S 16th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19102

215-563-0763 (in PA)
  Neil Flatter                 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
  Chemistry - Math (CMA)       Department of Chemistry
  Novell Supervisor            Chemistry Stockroom Manager
  ???????????????????????????      (812) 877 - 8316

[ Well, three... -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????????
Subject: Re:  subscribe

Hi.  Thanks for putting me on your list.  You asked for some info about
myself so... I am 40 years old, teach philosophy, married with children,
have smoked pipes off and on for 15 years.  Used to live in New York, 
now in California, but I still get my pipe supplies from Connoisseur
Pipe Shop in NY.  They are the best I've found.  Make their own pipes, 
mix their own tobaccos.  I do not have an elaborate pipe collection -
only three briars of comfortable if not magnificent quality.  And I 
agree that pipe smoking is the king of smoking pleasures.

[ I think many of us would, although we'd have contention from the
cigar buffs and the single-malt and brandy aficionados... Welcome! -S.]

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From: Adrian <????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Recommend me a good cigar!

Good Afternoon Steve.

	The pipes newsgroup sounds great to me , please subscribe me
to it, using the following (and different) address :::>
???????????????????????????? <:::

        Nothing beats the heavenly aroma of a fine tobacco from a
masterly sculptured pipe. Such good memories they bring!


[ Done, and I hope you're getting some good ideas on cigars. Welcome!
-S. ]

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From: "Michael H. Hoeflich" <????????????????????>

hi, steve. personal info as follows: dean of syracuse law school. 
long-time pipe smoker.short-time internet user. i collect antique pipes 
( but also buy new ones, particularly petersons ). i have about 100 or 
so, including several 19th century models. Best place to but older 
and estate pipes i know of up here in northern new york is a shop 
called the smoker in albany. i look forward to the mailing list. yrs.

[ Thanks for the info, Michael! I believe we have some other lawyers
in the group... we'll definitely check The Smoker out on our next pass
near Albany. -S. ]

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From: Jim Conforti <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes list


  BTW, has anyone settled for sure whether Canadian citizens can legally
  bring in small (I think x<=40) quantities of fidel product

  and are Cubans avail. in Mexico ??

  (Yes, the wheels are a turning!)


[ See above discussion. The answer seems to vary a _lot_! -S. ]

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #123 - December 17, 1993
  2. Subject: Home-made pipes
  3. Subject: Cigars
  4. Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #122 - December 10, 1993
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #122 - December 10, 1993
  6. Subject: Suggestions for cigars to try.
  7. Subject: Importing Cuban cigars
  8. Subject: Any other hams?
  9. Subject: Re: Subscription
  10. Subject: Thompson sampler
  11. Subject: Holt address
  12. Subject: Re: subscribe
  13. Subject: Re: Recommend me a good cigar!
  14. Subject: Re: Pipes list
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