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Subject: Pipes Digest #129 - February 4, 1994

		 Pipes Digest #129 - February 4, 1994
		     Circulation This Issue: 211

Welcome to new members:

	Rick Byer			(????????????????)
	Hugo Eduardo Vanegas		(?????????????????????)

And we have plenty of pipe and cigar items in the queue, as well as
some words on apples, a price break from the Great North Woods,
sources of sought-after smokes, and a new Thackerism! (For those new
members who don't know what a Thackerism is, it's what Norm has been
clamoring for all these issues. :-) Let us light up and read on, O
Intrepid Digesters...

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From: "Kameran Kashani" <????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #127 - January 21, 1994

Regarding cigars, Norm sez:

	I had one on the way home and kept wondering why the car was
	spinning whilst I didn't even turn the wheel?!?!  Good lord,
	I think I like my pipe better. ...  I did notice that the cigar
	was a bit on the dry side (leaf flakes coming off during the smoke).
	How do I go about putting life back into the leaf?  Also,
	I never cut the end off the cigar, I just put a hole in the
	end to allow for a draw ...

I won't go so far as to say "no wonder you didn't like
it, it was dry." The taste of cigar and pipe tobacco is
quite different. I like them both for different reasons.

However, a dry cigar is not nearly as nice as a properly-humidifed one.
To rehumidify cigars, I put them in my cedar box, unwrapped
(if they came wrapped in plastic or anything else)
with a home-made humidifier: a tightly-rolled Handiwipe. The
rolled-up Handiwipe sits in a small tray to keep moisture off the wood.
It is tied up with a small rubber band. This takes up space in the box
but it's a large box so there is plenty of room. (I built the box
out of Tennesee aromatic cedar). You could also do this with tupperware.

The difference between a well-humidified cigar and a
dry one is remarkable. But they aren't the same smoke
as a pipe.

Off to enjoy my Peterson,

Kam Kashani

[ Yet another way to humidify a cigar without spending megabucks...
-S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #127 - January 21, 1994

Norm writes:

> Where's Thacker been through all this cigar talk anyhow? 

In fact, I've been out of town, conducting research at the Library of 
Congress and other important archives.  The result is this report, and I
hope it's worth the wait!

In a previous issue of the digest, I commented on how the history of briar
(brought to us by the Mongols) was confused by the possible influence of 
the Egyptians, and promised to expound on that comment.  

Excavations of the tombs of Tutankhamen and other Egyptian nobility 
indicate that pipes figured heavily in the mummification and burial ritual.
The Egyptians believed that smoking raised one's spiritual consciousness;
symbolically, a small portion of the deceased's heart was burned in a brass
device not unlike the Turkish hookah.  But a startling revelation at the 
1992 Conference of the Chicago Association for Lost Aegypt has shed new 
light on this practice.  

The Conference featured a panel discussion on the construction of the
pyramids, and was widely attended by historians, archaeologists, and
architects.  While this blue-ribbon team made much progress in
understanding ancient Egypt, the real breakthrough came as an event
of pure serendipity.  

It chanced that the hotel was also hosting another conference, this one for
the Benevolent Alliance of Sausage Handlers. The meatpackers were having 
quite a time celebrating their 50th anniversary (held, of course, in the 
city known as "hog butcher for the world"), and the liquor was flowing fast.  

One of the attendees was none other than Jimmy Dean, who I'm sure many of
you have seen on television advertisements.  Just how drunk he was isn't 
recorded, but he was far enough gone that he accidentally staggered into 
the wrong ballroom.  Expecting to hear a lecture on the latest sausage 
curing techniques, Jimmy found himself looking at a cross-section of 
Cheop's pyramid.  He leaned over and whispered to a woman standing nearby,
in a voice loud enough to be heard throughout the room, "Mah mama used to
cure hams in a smokehouse lahk that!  Mmm-mmm!"   

After the ushers had removed Mr. Dean, several of the archaeologists
realized that he was on to something; in certain ways, the pyramid *did*
look like a smokehouse.  And when word spread that the sausage conference
had an open bar, a motion to merge the two conferences for an
"interdisciplinary exchange of ideas" passed unanimously.

The result, of course, was the now-famous 1992 CALA-BASH conference.  It
took another 9 months to confirm their initial findings, but confirmed they

Once the scribbled, beer-stained notes from the convention were deciphered,
the conference proceedings were published.  The long-standing belief that
mummification was meant to preserve a body for resurrection was debunked.
"Instead," the proceedings stated, "the burial process was a spiritual 
send-off for the deceased.  The body, in funereal wrappings, was placed in
a sarcophogas, itself on a bier surrounded by the finest tobaccos.  A 
charcoal burner was set alight, kindling the tobacco, then the entranceway
to the tomb sealed.  Cleverly designed channels in the pyramid itself acted
to create draft, bringing fresh oxygen into the smoking chamber and burning
the tobacco at a precisely-controlled rate.  The aromatic vapors permeated
the sarcophogas (itself needed to protect the body from the heat), 
literally smoke-curing the body while, it was believed, helping the soul 
loft upward toward heaven.  " 

Seen in this context, the ritual burning of a piece of the deceased's heart
is now seen as a ceremony performed for the benefit of the survivors, a
symbolic demonstration of what was taking place inside the pyramid.  And
the pyramids may rightly be considered the largest pipes ever built.

This breakthrough naturally led researchers to look for further evidence of
pipelore in Egyptian history, and many significant finds were made.  We now
know that the earliest Egyptian pipes were constructed of sun-baked brick,
being thicker (and heavier) than our modern clay pipes.  These quickly
became a rage, demand growing so fast that the Hebrews were enslaved to 
make the brick pipes, and records prove that shortages of stems were 
frequent.  (The Bible records one such incident during the reign of
Ramses; sadly, mis-translation from the Greek has turned "stems" into

As Egyptian culture became more sophisticated, so too did their pipes, so
that within a few hundred years ornately painted pipes were common among 
the rich.  Skilled artisans became interested in pipemaking, and intricate
carvings became the rule of the day.  Most of these were stereotypically 
Egyptian, featuring busts of jackal-headed gods; clearly these were the 
ancestors of today's carved meerschaums (which, adapted to western custom,
now portray skulls and the like).  

Finally, with the advent of metalworking, elaborate brass water pipes
evolved.  These were to have tremendous impact on Middle Eastern culture;
more durable than clay, they could survive the hardships of travel and were
thus ideal for the many nomadic tribes in the region.  They became a staple
in Arab culture; indeed, Aladdin's "Magic Lamp" was originally a water
pipe. (Sadly, anti-smoking revisionists have warped that legend beyond

It can be shown that Arab coffee makers began as modified water pipes; so
the final irony is that espresso, so beloved to our modern tobacco-hating
crowd, owes its origin to smoking!

Ancient Egypt must also be credited with the invention of the pipe nail;
in this case, miniature gold obelisks, which chemical analyses have shown
to bear traces of tobacco ash.  On the other hand, ashtrays were unknown to
them, which was to have tragic consequences for the Library at Alexandria.

Briar, sadly, was unknown to Africa until the Crusades, and no other
suitable wood was found in the Middle East, though legends recount several
failed attempts at wooden pipes.  (Bible scholars believe that the story of
Moses and the Burning Bush is an allegory for the ancient pipemaker's
quest for a suitable wood.)

So it was that Egypt's influence on smoking was exclusively in the form of
the hookah.  These traveled far and wide; certainly reaching as far as
Turkey and India, where they remain to this day an important cultural

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Bill Thacker             AT&T Network Systems       attmail!att!cbemf!wbt
(614) 860-5294  	 Columbus, Ohio              ?????????????????
                      Humpty Dumpty was pushed!

[ And speaking of ancient rites, that gives me an idea... Should I be
so unlucky as to expire while still at the helm of the Digest, here is
my final request. Build me a sarcophagus, buy a few thousand Cohibas
and a couple of tons of Balkan Sobranie, all gather 'round and do whatever
comes to mind. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: meerschaum care, Esoterica Tobacciana

A question came up about meerschaum care, specifically about
whether meerschaums need a carbon cake.  The answer is no--you
don't want them to develop any cake.  It inhibits  the coloring
process.  Do do have to be careful about removing the cake, so
you don't remove meerschaum material from the inside of the bowl.

Meerschaums can be a pain in some ways--their fragility requires
careful care, and it's not safe to smoke one outdoors--but the
fact that they don't need a carbon cake is a real advantage.  No
breaking in is required.  Since briar pipes require a
carefully-shaped cake to smoke well, I'm usually very meticulous
about smoking a bowl down to the bottom.  You don't have to worry
about that with a meerschaum, which is why if I want to smoke a
pipe close to bedtime, I'll often choose my meerschaum, since it
doesn't matter if I don't finish the bowl.

A follow-up on my concerns about the demise of Esoterica
Tobacciana...  Gregory Pease informed me via e-mail, much to my
delight, that ET is still in business, and will be shipping new
tins of their blends soon.  The reason why there's been such a
delay in filling orders is that ET is so meticulous about
insisting on only the very best tobaccos for their blends--which
makes the delay fully justified in my mind.

I'd encourage people on the list to try the ET blends if you can
get them in your area.  They're pricey, but worth the price if
you value good English blends.  After this false alarm, you can
bet that I'll be stockpiling away several pounds of these. :-)

Steve Houser

[ I guess ET phoned home... -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????????? (Edward N. Clark III)
Subject: Like fine wines...

I'm not sure of the exact issue, but Rolling Stone did an interview with
David Letterman a while ago (within the past year, say).  In it he mention
receiving a gift of a "perfectly humidored" cigar (again, the specifics
escape me).  Does this imply that tobacco has "vintages" that improve over
age?  The time scale for this aging was on the order of a number of years,
maybe 10 or so.  I'd never heard of doing anything like this, even if I could
muster the self-control to keep my hands off that last cigar.  Perhaps some
of you could educate me on this tobacco maturation process and things to look

Also, Chris Cooper mentions wanting to keep his cigars around for a while,
but doesn't have a humidor.  There are certainly better alternatives to my
experience, but when I first started smoking cigars, and was still shopping
around for a humidor, I used to keep them inside a zip-lock with a humidity
element and put that inside another zip-lock.  And I'd put the whole thing
inside the fridge.  This worked quite well as far as I could tell at the

	Ted Clark

[ Quite a few people seem to believe that aging tobacco improves its
quality. But you have to be careful, or you run the risk of insect
damage. See back issues of Cigar Aficionado for more info. -S. ]

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From: "David D. Urbanski" <????????????????????????????>
Subject: Meerschaum

One thing I do know about meerschaum, why you're not supposed to touch the
meerschaum itself, is that the grease (and dirt, I suppose) on your hands might
leave a permanent fingerprint on the stuff when it's hot.  I have a meerschaum
(carved into the head of a lion) and was very careful not to touch the bowl for
a long time.  Then a friend of mine pointed out that a meerschaum owner will
mostly not touch the bowl in order to keep it as white as possible.  It may
never leave a fingerprint, but it will darken the meerschaum to a golden or
brown color.  After that I decided, like my friend, to start grabbing the bowl
anyway, because I too think the golden color looks good.  It may be profane in
the opinion of a true meerschaum fan, but what the hell.

[ I like the gold color too, but I thought that touching it prevented
it from darkening! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (Richard E. Byer)
Subject: Re:  SUBSCRIBE           

 -=> Quoting MasticolRe:  SUBSCRIBEcr.siemens.com to Rbyer
etcom.com <=-

 Ma> We'd like to hear from you, and hope you'll help us to keep the
 Ma> mailgroup going. For starters, why not take a few minutes and tell us
 Ma> about yourself by return mail? We'd like to hear about your
 Ma> preferences in pipes, tobacco, shops, books - anything you think your
 Ma> fellow pipeists would be interested in knowing.

Well, I've been smoking pipes and cigars since 1972. My father smoked a
pipe, but never cigars. He gave up his pipe years ago, but I'm still
My preferences in pipes include Dunhills (when I can get them for half
price), my Ashton (an estate pipe), Petersons, and Americans. The latter
are hand made pipes by a guy from Pennsylvania. They start at about $65
and go up, but they smoke like much more expensive pipes. No fills, very
well made with good briar. They are sold all over the DC area, but I
don't think he sells them outside of this area.
For pipe tobacco, I'm smoking two blends right now. Both are from pipe
shops, but contrary to what they'd like you to believe they don't mix
them at the shop. Most of these guys buy their blends from one or more
of several different distributers. The two blends I am smoking are
distributed by Lane's. The first almost everybody has. Lane's calls it
1Q.  If you ask your pipe shop what blend they sell more than any other,
whatever they call it, it's probably really 1Q. They other is also from
Lane's. I don't know its real name, but it's a light Latakia blend.
Cigars: I'm firmly of the opinion that life is too short to smoke bad
cigars. I'd rather smoke fewer of a good cigar than alot of bad cigars.
Nevertheless, I'll put my favorites into three categories by price:
1. Money is no object:
Cohiba Robustos (Cuba)
Davidoff Special R
Davidoff Special T
2. Moderately expensive:
Santa Damiana
Dunhill Vintage (blue labels)
3. Best cigar for the money:
Arturo Fuente's Chateau Fuente (about $1.70 for a rich medium strength
Rothschild shape cigar that tastes good right down to the very end).

 Ma> Now,  back to cigars.  Not to offend any of you guys but -- well --
 Ma> Sheesh!  What are you guys?  Maschochicts  uh? Massochists um? Machss-
 Ma> Crazy?  I was lulled in to a false sense of security by all your
 Ma> wonderful messages on the list and went out and bought myself a few
 Ma> stogies.  Sheesh! I had one on the way home and kept wondering why the
 Ma> car was spinning whilst I didn't even turn the wheel?!?!  Good lord,  I

 What kind of cigar did you try? Cigars very widely in strength and
 taste. For a good quality, but very mild, cigar, try the Macanudo
 (other than the Hyde Park, which is a little stronger).  Also, you'll
 find that the wider ring gauges smoke cooler.
     I did
 Ma> notice that the cigar was a bit on the dry side (leaf flakes coming off
 Ma> during the smoke).  How do I go about  putting life back into the leaf?

Once the leaf starts coming off, that cigar is history. If it hasn't
gotten to that stage yet, but it back into a hunidified environment for
a week or two. If you don't have a humidifier, make one out of a
Tupperware-style container and a humidifier from you local pipe shop.

 Ma> Also,  I never cut the end off the cigar, I just put a hole in the end
 Ma> to allow for a draw (Is this why they made  me want to kiss the
 Ma> ground).)?

I'm told that tends to concentrate the smoke. I prefer the guillotine
cut, myself.

 Ma> 	BTW, I'm going to contact Customs and ask about the "personal
 Ma> use" and other allowances for Cuban cigars (as I promised before I

 Last time I looked at a customs form, it said that the personal use
 exemption for Cuban cigars was only for foreigners visiting the US.

 Ma> It is extremely frustrating to find a tobacco one really likes and
 Ma> then  see it suddenly disappear.  In Washington D.C. a couple of years
 Ma> ago I  picked up a couple small (one oz.) tins of something called
 Ma> Coral Flake  at the D.C. JR Tobacco shop.  It was made by the firm of

I know that the JR's in DC does mail order. Have you tried calling them
to see if they still have it?

 Ma> I don't have a humidor so I was wondering how long I can keep a cigar
 Ma> before it will no longer be enjoyable to smoke.I just bought a
 Ma> Macanudo but am waiting for a special occasion to try it out. Any
 Ma> suggestions for keeping cigars for someone on a poor college students
 Ma> budget?
Yes, spend $2 or $3 on a Tupperware-style container long enough to fit
your cigars, then spend another $3 on a tube-type humidifier from a pipe
shop. Fill it only with distilled water, and you'll have a humidor that
works just as well as the $300 versions.

... Power corrupts, absolute power, however, is kinda neat.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: ??????????????????? (NEIL MURRAY)
Subject: Pipes Digest #127 - Janua

BTW Steve, the subscription rate is only $10, not the $15 that you list,
what has happened is that i assign a 1 1/2 year subscription to anyone
sending $15.  However with the cost increases in paper and postage over
the past 5 years, I have been considering increasing the sub rate....$15
may be a good number.
    Another item that I have been working on is the first A&M Gazette
Calendar.  I have most of the pages done, using a different photograph
for each month from the photo collection of Paul Spaniola.  It actually
looks pretty decent.  Dont know what i will be charging for them, but
will have a mention or advertisement in the March issue (yes the next
issue will be in March) including price.  Who knows, maybe i will just
skip the whole thing and wait until 1995.  I have some old photographs
from the 1950's of Mastercraft pipe company etc.  Looks interesting.
aal for now,  neil

[ I'll correct the Resource Guide sometime next week. Looking forward
to those calendars! -S. ]

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From: "Marios H. Agrotes" <???????????????????????>
Subject:      Arturo Fuente 8-5-8's mail-order.

Answer to Brian Morgan's question about $1.20 Arturo Fuentes 8-5-8
by mail order:

JR Tobacco (1-800-JR-CIGAR) sells the box of 25 for $28.95.

Since my orders are usually in the $200 range, (about every four months)
the $3 shipping/handling charge they add to the total order is
inconsequential.  For a single box order though, it raises the price
by more than 10%, to $31.95.  Still, a pretty good deal.

Suggestion: Get a couple of friends, and order 2-3 boxes each.
The boxes they come in are some of the prettiest boxes on the market
today.  You can proudly keep the cigars in there as you use them.

Smoke in peace,

Marios H. Agrotes

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From: Neil Flatter <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #127 - January 21, 1994

>Anyway,  I've found the best way to deal with tobacco dry out in the
>pouch is to buy a button himidfier.  This is similar to what you would
>put in your humidor when storing the tobacco, but is small enough to
>stay in your pouch.

My father suggested putting an apple slice in with the tobacco.  He
does that with popcorn that needs moisture.  Well, it's not the worst
advise he ever gave me; but it did ruin about 2 oz of otherwise good
tobacco.  I finally gave up and bought a jar with the soak stone in
the lid.  Now I have one at work and at home.  It looks nice and is
effective in keeping an even humidity.

>A tobacconist once suggested to me that I mix some honey and some
>cigarette ash, and coat the inside of a non-carbonised bowl; then
>bake the pipe (without the stem) in a hot oven until the stuff caramelizes.
>So I've done that with a few pipes, and I can't complain.  Also, a
>trick I learned from my dad is to alternate full and half bowls with
>a new pipe.
>I recently bought a nice small Meerschaum (on SALE!),
>but after smoking my first from this wonderful device,
>I realized that I had no idea how to care for it.
>I know to avoid water and heavy scraping, but are there
>any other details I am missing? For instance, do I want
>to build the same kind of carbon cake as on my briar?
>[ I've heard you're not supposed to touch the bowl with your hands;
>some people use gloves. Any meerschaum fans out there? -S. ]
One of the flyers I picked up at Tinder Box (chain store that sells
tobacco, pipes, cigars, etc.) suggest filling any pipe loosely with
tobacco, tamping to 1/3 of the pipe volume, refilling loosely, tamp
to 2/3 volume, overfill loosely, tamp level.  When breaking in a
pipe, they recommend smoking ten bowls that were filled loosely and
tamped to 1/3 volume.  Then smoke 10 more bowls at the 2/3 level.
This builds up an even carbon cake.  The carbon can withstand
extremely high temperature so the briar will be protected from the
burning contents.

Meerschaum is sea foam that has been hardened.  Since a meerschaum
already is rock and will not burn like wood pipes, there is no need
for a carbon cake.  It also is porous so it absorbs oils from the
tobacco.  Smoking tobaccos with a higher oil content (ie naturally
flavored instead of using sugary flavor additions) provide more oil
that can be absorbed.  This produces the graceful characteristic of
the style.  The pipe can also absorb oil from your hands.  When the
pipe was manufactured, the bowl was covered with wax to inhibit the
oils from being absorbed into the pipe from the outside.  This wax
will become hot enough to melt when you smoke your new pipe.
Touching the bowl may remove wax so some people wear gloves.

I was looking at a meerschaum lined briar because it smokes evenly.
The tobacconist recommended a low grade, all-meerschaum bowl.  I've
been a fan ever since.  I have a few collector-type pipes in my
collection, but I don't worry about the meerschaum as a collector
item.  I like it because I don't get hot spots and less juice comes
up from the bowl.  The only drawback I found was that a small pipe,
especially a meerschaum, is frequently considered drug paraphernalia.
  Neil Flatter                 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
  Chemistry - Math (CMA)       Department of Chemistry
  Novell Supervisor            Chemistry Stockroom Manager
  ???????????????????????????      (812) 877 - 8316

[ I had some meerschaum-lined pipes once, but no more. For some
reason, I guess I liked the wood-walled ones better. Probably because
the lined pipes tended to have lower grade surfaces. -S. ]

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From: JOSEPH MAXIMILLIAN MURPHY <???????????????>
Subject: Various and sundry tobacky stuff

Well, after a few healthy months of lurking, I'm finally getting down to
writing in to the Digest. Most recent things first: a tip I've heard on
re-moistening pipe tobacco. My father, a veteran pipe and cigar smoker since
before my earliest days, suggested this technique to me. Make a few small
slices of apple and put them in your pouch. (Eat the remaining apple.) This
works on the same principle as the "moistened napkin" technique: the dried out
tobacco will absorb the moisture from the apple in a matter of days, without
actually having to contact water directly. It also, according to Da, gives the
tobac a nice apple flavor. One caveat: in a day or two, check your tobacco and
take out the fruit! Otherwise, somewhere down the road, you end up smoking some
vile green fuzzy thing, and talking to little purple snakes from Alpha
Centauri for a couple of hours.

Why was I interested in re-moistening tobacco, you ask? Well, this is for the
"don't buy this mass produced garbage" thread. I recently made the mistake of
picking up a pouch of Borkum Riff Whiskey in a 7-11. Blech. I think I know what
"bite" is now. It's interesting to note that the first tobacco I ever bought, a
"black forest" house blend (more on that later) is still moist enough in a
little plastic baggie from last August, while this stuff in their "Hermetically
sealed special bag" is drier than any sawdust I've ever come across. But then,
I think it may be older than I am, too. Yes, from now on, it's only real
tobacco shops for me. No more drug stores.

As that reveals, I'm new to pipe smoking. I got a little baby bowl pipe for a
pretty low price at a tobacconist's in Bethany Beach, Delaware. (Notice to all
pipe-smoking beach goers in the Delmarva area of the U.S. East Coast: check it
out. It's a small little place and I can't recall the name, but the guy I dealt
with was nice to a couple of relatively new smokers. And hey, how many places
can you go to a good tobacconist's and then be on the beach 2 minutes later?)
That's also where we picked up the "black forest," a nice blend I think. Mild
and tasteful. The guy ion the shop claimed it was blended with "malt;" I now
know a little about homebrewing (although I've done even less) and I don't see
anything that looks like what I expect actual malted grain to look like. Maybe
he's talking about extract? Any ideas? Anyway, the "black forest" is a short,
thick cut; would this be the "flake" you folks talk about? The Borkum Riff
(blech again) is longer and thinner, is that the Cavendish? I'm thinking of
getting a bigger bowl size soon; the one I have doesn't seem to hold the
longer cut very well. I also have a question about the pipe I've got. I know
diddley about its composition, but the bowl is terribly pitted. Little tiny
holes all over. Why might this be, and is it bad?

Anyway, I have to get to work. I'll send a personal bio and some of my cigar
habits along in a while.

[ A while later... -S. ]

So, on to cigars. I'm afraid these comments might offend some of the more
high-quality readers. I like drug store cigars. Maybe it's because of the
psychological connections; they were easy to find and afford when I was and 
undergrad doing lots of technical theatre and looking for something to
enhange my faux-macho image. It's just the way I am: I like King Edwards. Not
enough to keep a supply on hand, you understand, but every now and then for
special occasions like a show opening. You can share them with your friends
without going in hock. There was a recent compliment to Backwoods; while I
remember the quality of the smoke as better than the King Eddies, I couldn't
tell which end you lit from the end you put in your mouth! They're virtually
untapered, as I recall. I spent much of that evening spitting out chunks of
tobacco. I did get something, though, a Dutch Masters or Hav-A-Tampa, that
was just about unsmokable, so maybe I'm past that phase now. As for real
cigars, I've tended to have bad experiences. A friend brought me a Romeo y
Julieta back from the UK; while it smoked nice, the nicotine punch is too
much for an occasional smoker. I'd have to advise against smoking these at
6 am on an empty stomach after a major fight with your SO. (Good news is that
the RyJ is gone, but many months later, the SO and I are still around.) I
forget the brand, but I think I had a Churchill-size once. Biggest cigar I've
ever seen in my life. Easily the size of my forearm. Light colored, and very
smooth, with a firm ash, as I recall. But again, a ittle too much for this
poor dope. I'd have to recommend against mixing these with greasy food and a
little too much booze. Ah well, I was young; we live and learn. And I think
the cigar was not so much to blame as the food and drink.

I think that should serve as an intro to the group. Thanks for your comments,
questions, etc. By the way, Steve, I seem to remember subscribing to the user
name "pipes," but I'm sending this through the one on top of the Digest as I
get it. Is either preferable?
-Murph                   "A man makes a picture, a moving picture;
???????????????           Through light projected he can see himself up close" 
                          (-"Lemon", U2)                        

[ Thanks for the de-lurk, Murph, and glad to hear from a fellow
Delawarean! But see Neil Flatter's letter above regarding apple
slices. -S. ]

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(The Response Literal:) "Put out _this_ cigar? Seems kind of silly,
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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #129 - February 4, 1994
  2. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #127 - January 21, 1994
  3. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #127 - January 21, 1994
  4. Subject: meerschaum care, Esoterica Tobacciana
  5. Subject: Like fine wines...
  6. Subject: Meerschaum
  7. Subject: Re: SUBSCRIBE
  8. Subject: Pipes Digest #127 - Janua
  9. Subject: Arturo Fuente 8-5-8's mail-order.
  10. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #127 - January 21, 1994
  11. Subject: Various and sundry tobacky stuff
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