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Subject: Pipes Digest #130 - February 11, 1994

		Pipes Digest #130 - February 11, 1994
		     Circulation This Issue: 213

Welcome to new members:

	Rex Wockner		(???????????????????)
	Bob Lambert		(??????????????????)
	David Norris		(????????????????????????)

And, now without further ado

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From: ???????????????? (Richard E. Byer)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #129 - F

Steve writes:
 Ma> [ And speaking of ancient rites, that gives me an idea... Should I be
 Ma> so unlucky as to expire while still at the helm of the Digest, here is
 Ma> my final request. Build me a sarcophagus, buy a few thousand Cohibas
 You don't want much, do you! ;-)

... Sometimes I wonder why it took Mom so long to snap.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

[ Don't want no fancy funeral, just one like old King Tut... -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (Richard E. Byer)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #129 - F

Someone on the list wrote that he tends to have bad experiences with
"real cigars" and cites as an example the Romeo Y Julieta a friend
brought back from England.
Look, Cubans, general, and that cigar in particular, are much stronger
than your average Dominican or Jamaican cigar.  And, in my view, Romeo Y
Julietas are the most poorly made modern Cuban cigars.  Try some good
Dominicans before you reject the good ones categorically.

... He's dead, Jim...  You get his tricorder, I'll get his wallet.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: Edward N Blue <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Another post for your newsletter

To all you Netters on the Pipes Mailgroup:

     I recently went to Camelot Tobacco at the Continent (Busch Blvd
on the north end of Columbus, OH) and picked up a batch of new cigars.
I discovered that Fonseca Cigar rejects are sold under the name
Rollers Choice.  I picked up several Rothschild Sized cigars (5'x 50)
and as far as I could tell they were rejected for wrapper blemishes.
The Fonseca cigar brand has a grassy tea character with a sharp after
taste just like Cigar Aficiando says.  This kind of taste may not be
to every ones liking but it sure breaks the monotony of smooth woody
creamy tastes of other Dominican made cigars.  The Fonsecas are well
made and burn evenly.

In my next post I will lay out where to find all the big brand
rejects.  These provide the same taste at one-half to one-third of
brand name price.


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From: ????????????????????????? (Charles Myers)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #129 - February 4, 1994

        Steve: I have two requests that I am sure you can help me with.
        My brother has taken to making pipes, he does very nice work, and
he is looking for a source of briar, since he is just getting started I
would like to be able to tell him some sources of various quality briar. My
second question is, is this information in the resource guide and how do I
get a copy of the resource guide?

[ Resource guide sent, and I've already mentioned Pimo. Any others? -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????? (Norm Carpenter x3055)
Subject: I'm not worthy!

Bill Thacker writes:

	The result, of course, was the now-famous 1992 CALA-BASH
	conference.  It took another 9 months to confirm their initial
	findings, but confirmed they were.

It is clear that I am not worthy of the information presented by
Mr. Thacker.  The research,  time,  and effort he has spent in 
giving us these valuable insights into smoking history have been
truly worth the price paid.  I,  for one,  bow low to Mr. Thacker
and congratulate him on his research.  Job well done.

Norm (staying away from cigars anyway) Carpenter

[ Wait till you see the "Cigar Trek" episode, though... -S. ]

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From: JOSEPH MAXIMILLIAN MURPHY <???????????????>
Subject: Possibly for the Pipes Digest


I thought this little tidbit might amuse you and maybe some of the
other hams that read the Digest. It's pretty tangential to the subject
of smoking, so if you choose not to put it in the digest, I'll
understand completely. It's lifted wholesale from Purps 57, another
email magazine I subscribe to.

By the way, I'm from Maryland, not Delaware. Rockville, actually, just
outside DC. I just vacation in Delaware, because I've outgrown Ocean
City, MD. B-)

As reported in the San Francisco Chronicle, Tuesday, December 28, 1993, p. A10:

        British cops set up sting to catch eavesdroppers
                     Reuters News Service

Doncaster, England.  Police in northern England turned the tables on ham
radio operators who eavesdrop on police by issuing a spoof broadcast of
aliens landing nearby and then arresting those who turned up to see the

South Yorkshire police ordered "Operation Marconi" when they suspected that
criminals were cashing in on information gleaned from the airwaves, the
Guardian reported yesterday.

The eavesdroppers "could hardly believe their ears -- aliens were invading
planet Earth ... Doncaster to be exact," said the report, citing the latest
edition of a local police magazine.

It said several people were arrested and charged with acting illegally
on information in police broadcasts.

Scanning equipment can be legally purchased for a few dollars, and it is
not illegal to eavesdrop on police broadcasts.  But it is against the law
to act on any information overheard when monitoring police frequencies.
-Murph                   "A man makes a picture, a moving picture;
???????????????           Through light projected he can see himself up close"
                          (-"Lemon", U2)                        

[ Do I smell an urban legend in the making, or is that just some Red
Virginia? -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????
Subject:      Smoke Report

Hello All,
I'm continuing to enjoy the Pipes Digest: learning something
new each week it seems. It seems that this list spans a pretty
good cross-section of tobak aficianados from all walks of life,
and it's pretty amazing when you can see one common thread which
seems to come up regularly, almost across the board. It seems that
by and large, this list believes the Arturo Fuente 8-5-8 to be one of
the best "everyday" cigars out there. I'm stopping by to pick up one
for tonight after work. I prefer the maduro wrapper, and they are a
true joy to smoke! The local shops have been out for some time, and
I just found out a new shipment has arrived. Another seeming favorite
is the AF Hemingway Classic. Smoke shop should have some of those in
now as well, but I'll probably save one of those pricey beauties for
a special occasion.

Another very good cigar which I can heartily recommend is the H.
Upmann Churchill. I've smoked two in a row and found them to be
extremely good. Right up there,close to, but still not on par with
the 8-5-8, IMHO.  But there again, different cigars for different
moods, right?

Another that I tried recently was a Te-Amo Churchill. This maduro
wrapped cigar was a huge churchill! It was beautifully wrapped, and
the wrapper had an excellent spicy flavor. I thought I was in for a
treat. Well, I lit it up and waited, waited, waited. This was the most
bland, character-less smoke I have ever tried! Mild is a kind word,
this cigar was nothing short of wimpy! The draw was pathetic; I put
it out after about 15 minutes of nothing. At $2.60, I said "I coulda
had two 8-5-8's!" Anyone else know anything of the Te-Amo? It is a
Mexican smoke.....is it typical of Mexican handrolls?

May good smokes come your way,

J. Mark Jones, Accounting Manager
Georgia Center For Continuing Education
The University of Georgia
Athens, Georgia 30602 USA
(706) 542-6616

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From: "Bob Lambert" <??????????????????>
Subject: New Guy

When I read my first post from you I felt like I was standing in the
Tobacco Taverne in State College, BSing and inhaling the wonderful
odors.  I lived in Turkey for a while in a little town with several
meerschaum carvers.  They used to put bushel baskets of pipes out in
front of their shps with seconds in them.  We typically paid a couple
obucks per pipe.  A very common design was the man's head with turban.
I sent pipes back to everyone that smoked.  Care of pipes became a subject
of much discussion.  Our best information was that the oil from fingers
caused darker spots in the golden color that everyone strove for.  We
would buy pieces of chamois and make little custom shaped gloves for our
pipes.  A friend who had smoked pipes, particularly meerschaum, for years told
me to pack the first pinch like a baby, the second pinch like a little
girl, the third pinch like a young boy, and the final pinch like a man.
It may not be polictically correct, but it does burn nicely, allowing lots
of air circulation in the bowl.
The bottom line was that I had sent a pipe for everyone but me.  When my dad
died a few years ago, I got his meerscyhaum.  At Christmas, my brother-in-
law gave me an eqagle claw holding a bowl that I had sent him twenty years
ago.  He has since stopped smoking and wanted me to have it back.  It
has a wonderful color and draw.
Please pardon the typos, my cursor keys are gifing me fits.
Thanks for a great list.
Bob Lambert

[ You're welcome, and thatk you for a great letter! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Shoe comic

I was just curious to know if anybody else noticed the Shoe comic strip about
cigars a while back. In it, a bird walks into a cigar shop and asks the
tobacconist for a box of 50 caliber Il Duce Grandes. The tobacconist looks at
him and replys "certainly sir, you can pick those up next week". A confused
look comes over the bird and asks why he'll have to wait until next week. The
tobacconist answers, "there's a five day waiting period on those."   ;)  
Just thought I'd share it with the rest of you. 
Chris Cooper

[ MacNelly runs quite a few cigar-oriented strips, one of which was
picked up by "Cigar Aficionado." -S. ]

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From: Steve Masticola (????????????????????????)
Subject: The Ultimate Humidor, the Penultimate Hygrometer...

Well, ya win some and you lose some. You find a great smokeshop and
you get bashed by Billary and the EPA. You come up with the world's
greatest humidor, but it doesn't quite work.

Billary and the EPA, you already know about. Let's just hope it
doesn't happen the way they want it. Write your Congressthing. If you
need their address, ask me -- I've got the whole list.

The great smoke shop is Track Town in Cherry Hill, NJ. Right across
from the Garden State Racetrack. It doesn't look like much from the
outside, but they have some _very_ good pipes (Larsens, Ben Wades,
Upshalls...) and a fully-charged cigar humidor. Stop in if you're in
the Philadelphia area.

And for the great humidor, while I was in Cherry Hill, I took a short
drive to Edmund Scientific in Barrington. I was looking mainly for a
hygrometer, but I also found a dessicator. For those who don't know, a
dessicator is a huge glass jar with a heavy glass lid. They're
commonly used to dry things out in high-school biology labs; one fills
the bottom with kitty litter (to absorb moisture) and closes the lid.

I reasoned, that if it could keep things dry, why couldn't it also
keep them damp?  A heavy-glass, see-through humidor, with a ceramic
shelf and more capacity than any reasonable smoker could ever want.
And a great conversation piece to boot!

Well, forty dollars later, I owned it, and after forty more dollars I
also owned a digital hygrometer-thermometer. They all came back with
me to Chez Masticola, where I put the one, and all my worldly tobak,
inside the other. I could read the hygrometer through the glass, and
the humidity rapidly went up into the seventies. Great!

Well, not so great. Next morning, I awoke and, of course, immediately
went to read the hygro. Guess what? The numbers were so dim that I
couldn't read them. Checked the batteries. Nothing. Dried it with a
hair dryer. Nothing.

Then it dawned. The digital hygro works by sensing air capacitance.
Meaning that any condensing environment, which included the inside of
the antidessicator, would mess it up. Back to Edmund it went, with a
request that they send me an analog model instead.

Well, after I mail this, I think I'll drive home through the slush and
freezing rain (hasn't it been a _great_ winter? )|-P and have a quiet
Peterson to myself. My CHILL parser is working now, after a month of
late-night hacking. I've earned it.

And to all of you, here's hoping that you're warm and dry, that your
matches stay lit, and that your smoke smells wonderful to the ones you
love. Until next time, then,

				Smoke in peace,
				~\U Steve.

P.S. A question for the group: Has anyone run into a B&B or
resort-type place that _welcomes_ pipefolk and cigarists? Love to hear
about it if so! -S.

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		       Today's Snappy Comeback:

(The Response Coy:) "I'd love to, but I'm afraid you'd think I'm easy."

				- From "101 Ways to Answer the
				  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
				  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,

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  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #130 - February 11, 1994
  2. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #129 - F
  3. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #129 - F
  4. Subject: Another post for your newsletter
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #129 - February 4, 1994
  6. Subject: I'm not worthy!
  7. Subject: Possibly for the Pipes Digest
  8. Subject: Smoke Report
  9. Subject: New Guy
  10. Subject: Shoe comic
  11. Subject: The Ultimate Humidor, the Penultimate Hygrometer...
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