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Subject: Pipes Digest #136 - March 25, 1994

		  Pipes Digest #136 - March 25, 1994
		     Circulation This Issue: 275

Welcome to new members:

	Jay Anderson		(???????????????????????)
	Mark Helfen		(?????????????????)
	Mark Pulaski		(???????????????????????????)
	Jason Hayes		(????????????????????)
	Boaz Rahat		(?????????????????)
	Tom DePew		(????????????????????????)
	Brad Williams		(????????????????)
	Jeff Lowell		(????????????????)
	Tyler Weaver		(??????????????????)
	Samuel Cheng		(???????????????????)
	Chris Cochems		(???????????????)
	"arkdoc"		(??????????????)
	Rick Turner, M.D.	(??????????????????)
	Scott Sneddon		(???????????????????)
	Andy Mills		(????????????????????????????)
	Greg Cohoon		(??????????????????????)
	Jaromir Kohout		(?????????????????)
	Christophe Patterson	(??????????????????)
	Kurt W. Dekker		(??????????????)
	Tom Misener		(??????????????????????????????)
	Chris Bayus		(?????????????????)
	William Simon Barker	(??????????????)
	Dr. Joachim Posegga	(??????????????????)
	Art Gorski		(?????????????????)
	Chip Pate		(?????????????????)
	Southrnstr		(??????????????????)
	Petri Kirves		(????????????????????)
	Jim Stichweh		(?????????????????????????)
	Mihkel Tammepuu		(????????????????)
	???			(????????????????????????)

That's right, over thirty new members since last week! We're doing
terrific, folks! Largely through the publicity Rex Wockner's
well-met alt.smokers.cigars group has generated. 

But now, unfortunately, it's time to face a few facts.

		  *** Warning -- Politics Ahead ***

I'm glad we have all this interest, because we're going to need all
the help we can get.

Legislation has been introduced in the U.S. Congress (by Frank
Lautenberg, D:NJ) that would make it a crime to smoke in any public
place, at all, ever. That means no more brandy and 8-5-8s after
dinner, folks, even if we rent the hall. No more sitting by the
fireside of the inn with a pipe and a beer. Pass out cigars at the
wedding and you'd risk getting busted. Use a lighter, go to jail.

Frankly, I think this violates First Amendment right of peaceful
assembly for legal purposes. Unfortunately, it's already the law in
Maryland. And it's spreading. We simply can't count on RJR and Philip
Morris to defend our rights anymore.

And that ain't all. It comes in combination with the heavy tax
proposals on cigars and pipe tobacco, that may put many smokeshops out
of business. In combination, these events have convinced me that there
may well be a coordinated and powerful effort to wipe out tobacco in
the U.S. Including pipes and cigars. Including smoking in
moderation. Including smoking in the privacy of our own homes. And,
unless we act now, the posession and sale of tobacco will be
criminalized in the United States within the decade.

I'll repeat that. It's important.

*** Unless we act, NOW, the posession and sale of tobacco will be ***
*** criminalized in the United States within the decade.          ***

Please help stop the Second Prohibition. Speak out. Write your
elected representatives and your local media. Find out which
candidates protect your rights, and which ones abuse them; vote as
appropriate, and let the candidates know why you did. Send their names
here and I'll put together a list.

And from now on, the following lines will separate the intro from the
features. I think it's that important. Let us work together so that we
can continue to

				Smoke in peace,
				~\U Steve.

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	     Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
			Call -- Write -- Vote

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From: ??????????????????? (Rex Wockner)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #135 - March 18, 1994

> And, for cigar enthusiasts, I'd heartily recommend checking out Rex
> Wockner's new creation, alt.cigars. _Mucho_ traffic, almost no
> flamage, and it's only about a week old! (Personally, I find it
> excellent for a lot of the bitching and moaning I won't do in the
> Digest... :-)

Steve: it's alt.smokers.cigars


[ Once again proving that Your Moderator Is Not Perfect... any case, I
enjoy the group a lot, Rex! -S. ]

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From: Neil Flatter <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: humidor and saltwater

>From: Victor Reijs <???????????????????????>
>Subject: humidor and saltwater
>You asked why the salt in the proposed humidor. That is to
>garanteed a stable 70% of humidity in the humidor. If you only
>put water in a humidor, all water will evaporate (in principle
>there is no other limit then 100%;-). In case of a saturated water
>salt solution, there exist a natural equilibrium of 70% humidity
>above the water/salt solution.
>And because 70% seems to be the optimal humidity, this should
>be a good start.
>[ Thanks for the info, but I still don't understand the mechanism,
>Victor. Perhaps one of our chemically astute readers could help me
>out? -S. ]

Let's give this a try.  Suppose that your humidor's humidity has
decreased to 30%.  The water in the cup of saturated salt solution
has the "choice" of staying in the cup with the salt or leaving as
water vapor in the humidor.  Victor's observation is that the water
will continue to leave the cup until the concentration of water vapor
in the humidor reaches 70%.  This causes less water to be in the cup
to keep the salt in solution.  The salt will drop out of solution
into the bottom of the cup.  You then need only to add water to the
cup until most, but not necessarily all, the salt is re-dissolved.

A soak stone works on a similar principle.  Water has the "choice" of
staying in the stone or evaporating into the air in the jar.
Saturated salt solution offers one additional advantage.  If the
humidity in the jar is greater than 70%, the water would "rather" be
in the salt solution than in the air.  This is water is more likely
to condense on the sides of a glass jar than on a soak stone.
  Neil Flatter                 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
  Chemistry - Math (CMA)       Department of Chemistry
  Novell Supervisor            Chemistry Stockroom Manager
  ???????????????????????????      (812) 877 - 8316

[ Thanks for the clarification, Neil! -S. ]

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From: Neil Flatter <???????????????????????????>
Subject: pipe pictures

Barry Schenker mentioned earlier that he had .TIFF images of different
pipes that he would be glad to make available to others digest
members.  He was kind enough to send the images to me on a disk last
week.  The file names and sizes follow:

ASHTON       28954      BARI         34354      BEN WAD0        33454
BEN WAD1     26704      BEN WADE     42904      BRIANDAN        42454
BRIANLAR     39754      CASTELLO     34354      CP AFTER        30754
CP EXEC.MIL  33904      CP EXEC.LE   41554      CP EXEC.SP      35254
CP EXEC.14   34804      CP EXEC.JAC  34260      CP EXEC.BAN     33904
CP EXEC.BAS  35704      CP EXEC.LEV  34804      CP EXEC.ROU     32554
CP EXEC.POT  29854      CP EXECB     33004      CP SELEC.BEN    33904
CP SELEC.DIF 38404      CP SELEC.DUB 33904      CP SELEC.FUL    36154
CP SELEC.HUG 39304      CPDIST.LG    30304      CPSPEC.LOE      27154
DUNHILL0     33904      DUNHILL1     27604      DUNHILL3        28054
DUNHILL4     34354      DUNHILL5     27604      DUNHILLB        35704
DUNHILLL     28504      NORDING      28054      NORDING0        51004
PETERSON     29854      PREBEN H     41554      RADICELO        50104
RADICEUN     33978      TIM WEST     31732   44 files  1414422 bytes

If anyone would like a copy, please let me know.  Mr. Schenker was
not on a direct Internet line and had trouble sending files
  Neil Flatter                 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
  Chemistry - Math (CMA)       Department of Chemistry
  Novell Supervisor            Chemistry Stockroom Manager
  ???????????????????????????      (812) 877 - 8316

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From: ???????????????? (Richard E. Byer)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #135 - March 18, 1994

> From: ??????????????????
> Subject: Washington DC
> I am preparing to go to the Washington DC area within the next couple of days
> and I was wondering if you knew of any quality pipe shop/tobbacconist shop I
> should seek out while there.
> I was told that this upcoming week was national pipe smoking week, so I hope
> to find some real good deals.  At my local shop I purchased a meerschaum for
> $12.00 (normall $30.00) and got 4 oz of tobacco free.  What a bargain!
> In any event I hope you can help with addresses and phone Numbers .  Thanks.
> [ Check out the Georgetown Tobacco Shop, I think. Hope this is in 

Also, JR Tobacco at 17th & K, Draper's at 14th & G, Cigar Club 
International at the Grand Hotel, and John B Hayes Tobacco at the Fair 
Oaks Mall in Fairfax County, VA.

Rick Byer <????????????????>

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From: Jason Thomas Hayes <????????????????????>
Subject: cigar newsletter

I just signed on to the  alt.cigar smoker newsletter and was interested to
see that you could add to my extremely limited knowledge of what is a good
cigar.  My girlfriend hates the idea of me smoking cigars so any info you
might have that can aid me in my effort to confuse and confound my better
half would be much appreciated.

Thanks alot
Jason Hayes

[ See "The Betrothed," by Rudyard Kipling... in any case, welcome,
Jason! -S. ]

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From: "Kohout Jaromir"  <?????????????????>
Subject:      Is it truth?

Hi Steve,
    my pal forwarded me yer Pipes digest. Is a nice idea and I will
read from now on...
    But I have a little question you may answer. I have heard that
Americans (I am from Czech republic, Europe) have discovered a new
material which is much better and much cheaper than bruyere. IS IT
    I've also heard that plenty of smokers DO want this mew material
(kinda plastic) more than classical bruyere. IS IT RIGHT?
    I study economics so I think that this will probably terribly
decrease prices of classic wooden pipes. It may come to Europe for
within two months. IS IT POSSIBLE?

You may (of course) add this to next Pipes digest, but I would
appreciate your answer to my E-mail since I don't know when will I
get next Digest.

Bye bye

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  |       |                Jaromir  Kohout              |      |
  |  (o)(o)                                             |      |
  C   .---_)                U Flory  2594               (o)(o) |
  | |.___|                  438 01  ZATEC              (_      )
  |  \__/                                               |___, |
  /_____\       ************************************     \    |
 /_____/ \      *      Don't give a cow, man!      *     /____\
/         \     ************************************    /      \

[ Not that I've heard, Jaromir, and I don't know how well they'd sell,
anyway. There was a pipe called "The Smoke" introduced in the 1960s,
which was made of pyrolitic graphite. It bombed... -S. ]

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From: Christophe Patterson <??????????????????>
Subject: Re: Digest

   I guess a little personal information is in order. I'm a college 
student here in scenic Delaware and I have learned to get a great deal of 
pleasure out of a relaxing cigar. I am in the process of trying different 
brands and sizes but I have discovered a fondness for Macanudos. I have 
also subscribed to the alt.cigars newsgroup (where I found out about your 
digest) and am eager to try some of the brands mentioned in there. There 
are very few good tobacconists in Delaware, the best being in the lobby 
of a VERY expensive restaraunt, so I go to a little place off the beaten 
path with a decent supply for me to start off with. I would like to use 
your service more or less as a menu of what's out there and then try to 
smoke as many of them as I can. I hope this is enough of a "personal 
note" for you and look forward to your digest.


[ More than enough, Toph! Posting, as everything else here, is
voluntary. And, BTW, is the shop the "Bee Hive?" It's where I bought
my first pipe, back when velociraptors ruled the World Wrestling
Federation :-) -S. ]

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From: ??????????????? (Chris Cochems)
Subject: Autobiograpy

I am a 46 year old unemployed Systems Engineer leaving in the greater San 
Francisco area.  I have been smoking a pipe since I was in the Navy -- 

I exclusively smoke a heavy English mixture (English Oriental Supreme 
from American Tobacco).

I worked for a year and a half in the early seventies as a tobaccinist in 
Southern California for several shops including one on the Queen Mary.

My pipe collection is large.  After 5 business trips to Turkey last year, 
I have been mainly smoking my Meerschaums.  The most notable pipes in my 
collection include a hand carved ivory pipe from Japan (unsmokable), a 
very large 3/4 bent Camoy (age unknown) and a very large (6" long by 7" 
high, not including stem) meershaum in the shape of a dragon.

Finally, an addition for the resource file:

Meerschaum Pipes personally handcrafted

Bilal Donmez
Arasta Carsi No. 63

Unfortunately, Bilal-bey does not speak English, but his teenage son 
does.  I have been very happy with the 20 or so pipes I have purchased 
from him.  His prices range from about $10.00 to $300.00, with anything 
over about $30.00 having a case.  I know he has done some mail order 
business with the US.


[ One for the Resource Guide, Chris! Welcome, and thanks! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????????? (Tom Misener)
Subject: Member in waiting

        I am interested in the topic of fine cigars and came accross some mail 
of your mail in compuserve the other day. I have within the last year 
discovered the wonderfull world of hand rolled Onix (my fav) 750`s. If you can 
point me in the direction of a news group that holds discussions on this 
subject I would be for ever thankfull.
                                        Tom Misener
[ Pointed, and welcome, Tom! I've tried some Onyxes (Onices? :-) and
liked 'em pretty well. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #135 - March 18, 1994 

Thanks for adding me to the list.

Lots of good information

Still in shock over the passing of Barry Levin.

I doubt anyone will ever reach his level of expertise in terms of pipe
history and marketing.

Imagine being able to talk Radice out of some of his personal
collection of Camminettos!

Joe Hanosek

[ Didn't know him well, but he seemed very friendly over the phone,
and I enjoyed the Levin brochures. Best of luck to his son, who's
taking over the business. -S. ]

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From: Tad Olson <??????????????????????????????>
Subject: What Happened?

A while ago I sent you a request to be included on your mailing list for pipes,
etc.  I recieved one issue and have not seen another one since then.  What
happened, maybe I did something wrong.  Please help I found the first one

BTW that humidor (sp?) that you bought from ed., I think you said that it is
clear.  Is light bad for cigars?  Also did the shelf come with it?

Tad Olson

[ Glitch hopefully resolved, Tad! And, to my knowledge, light is not
bad for cigars; otherwise the smokeshops would display them under a
safety light :-) -S. ]

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		       Today's Snappy Comeback:

(The Quip Modest, to female jerk:) "Madam, your advances are untimely
and unexpected, but not unwelcome. Perhaps after I've finished this cigar."

				- From "101 Ways to Answer the
				  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
				  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #136 - March 25, 1994
  2. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #135 - March 18, 1994
  3. Subject: Re: humidor and saltwater
  4. Subject: pipe pictures
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #135 - March 18, 1994
  6. Subject: cigar newsletter
  7. Subject: Is it truth?
  8. Subject: Re: Digest
  9. Subject: Autobiograpy
  10. Subject: Member in waiting
  11. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #135 - March 18, 1994
  12. Subject: What Happened?
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