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Subject: Pipes Digest #144 -- May 20, 1994

		  Pipes Digest #144 -- May 20, 1994
		     Circulation this issue: 356

Welcome to new members:

	Brandon S. Allbery	(????????????????????)
	Alan C Swain		(????????????????????????)
	Mark			(???????????????????????)
	Bob Cross		(?????????????????????????)
	Omer Benli		(????????????????????)
	???			(?????????????)
	Tom Line		(?????????????)
	Perry Fink		(?????????????????????)
	Skip			(???????????????????????)
	Bruce			(???????????????????)
	Nathan Gade		(???????????????????????????)

Administrative Note: I'm going on vacation, up in the Finger Lakes
wine country of New York State, so there will be no Pipes Digest next
week. Depending on how many wineries we can visit, there may be no
Pipesh Digesht f'r quite shum time... %^)

So, although it's a week early, for all our readers in the U.S., I
wish you a happy Memorial Day. Please take a few moments to thank the
men and women who have fought to keep this country free. And join us
as we discuss automotive nomenclature for cigars, burning spongy
pipes, ceremony, and (we hope) Peace on Earth...


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	     Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
			Call -- Write -- Vote
			Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #143 -- May 13, 1994

WEll. Here's a profile for you all. ( hope this works. ) I live in Columbis
Ohio ( usa ) Got into pipes and cigars via a freind who worked for the Tinder
Box. Have a hard time keeping the pipe lit,  so I have a great respect now
for the convenience of the cigar. Beyond that, ( and unk=like a cigarrette
which one would smoke at any occasion as an afterthought, the cigar or pipe
is a calculated event in itself. There is a ceremony to it. It requires
thought. We live in an increasingly homogenized world, where corporations
ceate the rituals and decide the  rythms by which we live our lives. Missing
are the rituals and traditions of the individual. Like the use of a mug and
brush to shave with ( including it's obligatory stirring and more stirring ),
Cigar and pipe smoking offers the individual a chance to take back a measure
of control to thier lives through personal ritual. And very few things in the
modern world can lay claim to that ability. I hope this expresses some of
what other pipe and cigar smokers feel. If it rings true, e-mail me at :
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To all of you around the globe ( literally )  Peace to all of us. We are as
much the future as the past.  GIdeonH :-)

[ Wonderful words, Gideon! Smoke in peace. -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #143 -- May 13, 1994

I saw the "welcome new members" blurb, and noticed I have no last name.
 Perhaps I should introduce myself more fully!  My complete name is Michael
Dryja.  You obviously can use this when posting messages by me.

 - Mike.

[ Thanks for the nomenclature update, Mike! -S. ]


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From: Neil Flatter <???????????????????????????>
Subject: cheap cigars

>From: ??????????????????????? (Alasdair McAndrew)
>Subject: Re:  Internet Pipes mailgroup
>
>I've joined this mailgroup to get some advice; my local machine
>does not get the usenet newsgroup alt.smokers.cigars.  I'm a fairly
>recent cigar smoker, and I've been forced, due to price
>restrictions, to limit myself to the cheaper boxed cigars.  I've
>been advised by local tobacconists that "There are only two sorts of
>cigars: Cuban, and the rest", and that "Dutch cigars aren't really
>much chop", a statement with which I'm beginning to agree.

After smoking a pipe for several years and only an occassional cigar,
I was given a copy of Thompson catalog [address in resource guide].
I just finished the Gold Medal Sampler of 42 cigars for $14.90 + S&H.
They are mostly short filler of varying colors and sizes.  While not
the Cadillac of cigars, they're not a Yugo either.  I'm waiting for
my Maduro sampler to arrive.  It is a quick, inexpensive way to try a
number of different cigars.
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Neil Flatter                 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Chemistry - Math (CMA)       Department of Chemistry Stockroom Manager
Novell Supervisor            5500 Wabash Avenue 73
(812) 877 - 8316             Terre Haute, IN 47803-3999
  FAX 877-3198               ???????????????????????????

[ Between a Cadillac and a Yugo... that'd make it about a Chevy?
Anyone know what the Ford F-150 of cigars is? :-) Seriously, thanks
for the info! -S. ]


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From: ?????????????
Subject: Re: #1(2) Re:  Pipe Mail Group

Steve. Nice meeting you and learning about the Pipe Mail Group online. Thanks
for the quick response. 

Last night I was idly going through the latest Ephemeris (Winter-Spring '94)
and there on page 61, in a letter from Thorsten Kramp in Germany, was
information about the Group and your e-mail address. 

I'm a 30-year pipe smoker and, with so many good tobacconists closing their
doors (Wilke in NYC is a recent casualty), I'm happy to have the information
from you about reliable mail-order contacts. I'm more of a smoker than a
collector, and have accumulated about 40 good pipes over the years - a few
freehands, but mostly traditional shapes: Dunhill, Barling, Charatan, and
some great-smoking lesser names. My tobaccos? English blends and Virginias,
in tins. I've never been satisfied with any of the "pipe shop blends," but
would love to locate a good source of unflavored mixtures.

All the best. Charles Crawford

[ JR Cigar has a lot of good tinned blends at very good prices. If you
know of others, please let us know too! And welcome! -S. ]


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From: Bob Cross <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Greetings from a newcomer!

Hello:
	Just joined the list and received a very nice "letter" of welcome
from Steve Masticola (thanks Steve). I must say that as a newcomer to the 
"net" I've found that people can be rather cool to newusers, if Steve's
post is any indication that does'nt appear to be the case here!
	Anyhow I suppose I should tell a bit about myself...
I'm married (no kids - yet), two dogs, couple of tankfulls of tropical fish,
love to ski (alpine), enjoy hunting (when I get the time - usually grouse and
white-tailed deer), enjoy a good game of backgammon or squash, skydive (when I
can afford to - sports a lot more expensive today than when I started in 1978.
	About a dozen pipes (all styles) although a nice bent is my
favourite!  Favourite brands a Peterson (the older ones - since lately
I can't find one toda^[ with good briar), Soren, and Danish
Sovereign. As far as tobacco is concerned I like a full-flavoured
canendish with a light roast mixed with viginia & burley. Before they
stopped importing it into Canada I loved "Mullinger's Knockbrack", a
Danish blend from Ireland...if anyone knows where I can find a north
american supplier for it I'd be eternally grateful!
	I also enjoy a good cigar from time to time as a special "treat".
	Well its getting late, and I work "dayshift" tomorrow (May 18) so...
time to finish off this last bowl and "tuck-in".

					G'nite All,

						Bob Cross

[ A man of many interests! Never heard of Mullinger's Knockbrack,
sounds intriguing! Any clues, readers? -S. ]


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From: "Kenneth R. McLeroy, Ph.D., Fax: 919 334-3248"
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Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #143 -- May 13, 1994

	I have a question for the net. 
	I am a relatively new member of the pipes forum, having switched
from cigarettes to pipes after smoking for 32 years. I recently purchased
several decent pipes, including a Nording, BJarne, and a couple of Savinelli
(Milan, Designer). The Nording and 1 of the Savinelli apparently have soft
spots towards the bottom of the bole, since the pipe has charred through the
sides a bit. Is this normal, and is there any advice about what to do? 
	In addition, the BJarne has begun charring on the outside of the bowl.
I plan on taking it back to the pipe store, since there is an apparent flaw in
the bowl.
	I would appreciate any suggestions members of the forum have.
My address is ??????????????????????????
	Thanks.

[ Utterly UNnormal, Kenneth -- sounds like you're smoking them WAY too
hard! I could believe a defect in one pipe, but three? But I could be
wrong... any other theories? -S. ]


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		       Today's Snappy Comeback:

(The Emily Post:) "I've often wondered which is ruder: smoking a cigar
or interrupting a total stranger?" 

				- From "101 Ways to Answer the
				  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
				  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,
				  1987. 

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  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #144 -- May 20, 1994
  2. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #143 -- May 13, 1994
  3. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #143 -- May 13, 1994
  4. Subject: cheap cigars
  5. Subject: Re: #1(2) Re: Pipe Mail Group
  6. Subject: Greetings from a newcomer!
  7. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #143 -- May 13, 1994
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