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Subject: Pipes Digest #146 - June 9, 1994

		   Pipes Digest #146 - June 9, 1994
		     Circulation this issue: 383


Welcome to new members:

	Jonathan A Cohen		(??????????????????)
	Lynsa/MrHenry			(?????????????????????)
	Jason Deines			(???????????????????????????)
	???				(???????????????)
	Kevin Stampfl			(???????????????????????????????)
	???				(???????????????????????)
	Bruce E. Gillespie		(??????????????????)
	Brookfield Economics Institute	(???????????????????)
	Sam Alfano			(?????????????????)
	Steve Wyman			(??????????????)
	Dave Kaiser			(??????????????????)

And, to our members in the USA, it has finally happened. OSHA (the
Occupational Safety and Health Administration) is proposing

We need your help. OSHA's proposal would make it a crime to smoke
anywhere in public in the U.S. Please see the first posting -- then
ACT to protect your rights. 

And after you do, there's a lot of better news, so don't go away!

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			Call -- Write -- Vote
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From: "Melanie143" <??????????????????>
Subject: Proposed Smoking Ban / Workplace

Here is some info I received from R.J. Reynolds on the proposed Smoking ban
for employers....even though directed at "employers" I think if anyone or all
of us can voice our opinion and help in the fight, it is better than sitting
by and watching our right fly out the window.

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) of the United States
Department of Labor has issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on indoor air
quality (IAQ) and secondhand smoke.  OSHA would impose broad requirements on
employers regarding air quality and the operation and maintenance of heating,
ventilation and air conditioning (HVAC) systems.  It would effectively
prohibit smoking in indoor public places.

Smoking would be banned in restaurants bars, private clubs, retail
establishments, office buildings, government buildings, bingo parlors,
bowling alleys, casinsos, hotels and motels, sports arenas and even
residences where work is taking place, unless specially ventilated smoking
areas are established.

It is the most far\-reaching proposed smoking restriction in history, and
would override every less-restrictive state and local regulation currently on
the books.

It would apply to EVERY employer, regardless of size, with the exception of
self-employed individuals.

People interested in voicing their concerns should write a letter to OSHA.
(For ideas on what to say...see later on in letter)  Letters must be
postmarked by June 29, 1994.


1.  Write a letter telling OSHA that you object to this proposal.
2.  Take your letter and make three copies of it.  PUt your original letter
plus three copies into an envelope.
3.  Address your envelope to:
                                               The Docket Office
                                               Docket No. H-122
                                               Room N-2625
                                               U.S. Department of Labor
                                               200 Constitution Avenue, NW
                                               Washington, DC  20210

4.  Print your return address on the envelope and mail it as soon as possible
before Jun 29, 1994


<---ideas that you may wish to include in your letters:

1.  Keep you rletters short and clearly state your position on the proposed
OSHA regulation on smoking in the workplace.

2.  The proposed regulations go too far.  In some cases, the proposals might
even invade the privacy of your own home.  If you pay someone to work in your
home, then you may lose the right to smoke in your own home.  Personal
freedom is at stake.

3.  The proposal amounts to a ban on smoking.  This is an attempt at a
backdoor prohibition.  The majority of Americans oppose prohibition.

4.  The current systems works.  There is no need for the federal government
to further regulate smoking.

Why send all these copies.

OSHA requires four copies of comments on this issue.  We know this is
inconvenient, but it is required.  OSHA WILL NOT READ, NOR COUNT ENVELOPES

[ This is scary. Please write the Department of Labor, with four
copies of your letter -- and also write your elected
representatives. Please take the time to do it TODAY.

Reposted from the Accomplished Smokers Mailing List
(???????????????????????????????). -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????? (Brian Everitt)
Subject: Smoking problem

Hi Steve,
	I have a question for anyone who may have an answer. I currently use
a nice Irish second briar and I have developed a problem. The first half of
the bowl smokes very nicely, yet the second half or so tends to burn out 
extremely fast...in fact, it's almost impossible to keep it lit.

Any ideas would be appreciated.

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From: ????????????? (Tom Line)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #145 - June 3, 1994

	I would like to learn, how and from which types of tobaccos, that 
various pipe tobacco's are manufactured.  The stuff they sell at the 
Supermarket is so nasty :(  .   What do they use precisely to flavor it 
etc. Might enjoy getting some good clean burley tobacco and making my own 
if I had some recipes to play with.

[ If you can get hold of it, I'd suggest "The Book Of Pipes and
Tobacco," by Carl Ehwa. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????? (Mark Thomson)
Subject: Re:  Pipes Digest #145 - June 3, 1994


I have been listening in for about a month and a half and I really
enjoy these Digests.  I thought something was missing for a while
and it appears I missed #144, if you could please send it if you 
still have it around.  I am fairly new to pipes and smoking in general
(started cigs at 24, rolling my own for a year or so, and a pipe for about
2 years, I am now 31)  and I am thinking about a second or third pipe to
celebrate finishing grad school and getting a job.  Along these lines,
I have a few questions:

Does anyone have any suggestions for buying a meerschaum?  What should I
look for?  How should I take care of it so it colors nicely?  Do I need
to smoke just one blend in it or can I mix and match?

I will be moving to central Louisiana in August and I need to know if I 
should stock up here and buy my new pipes before I go or will I be able
to find any good shops there?  I did not see anything listed for Louisiana
but I didn't see any listed for Colorado either and I know of two in Ft.
Collins and two or three in Denver.

Is there a good book out on the market for beginners with pipes?  I did
not have a father or grandfather to teach me (life growing up in Utah)
so this has all been a self-taught experience which brings to mind a
passage out of Luke about "the blind leading the blind and both falling 
in the ditch".  Your introductory information was VERY helpful but I 
was hopeful for something more.

Thanks for all your help and willingness to listening to someone who has
let his questions build up.
Mark Thomson                 _ 
Dept. of Chemistry           \\_
Colorado State University    |  \_
Fort Collins, CO  80523       \   \_
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I was supposed to have been a Jesuit priest
   or a naval academy grad
That was the way that my parents perceived it
   Yes those were the plans that they had 

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From: "Don S. Johnson" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest #145 - June 3, 1994

Hi Steve: J. Upshaw firmly in teeth, thought I'd mention to members that
there is a nice tobacco shop/mail order place in Miami at Harborside called
Kings Treasure. They have a catalog (for cigars) and an 800 # which I don't
remember off hand. It's also a great place to meet gorgeous cigar-smoking
Latin American _women_.

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From: "C. Daniel Myers" <???????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #145 - June 3, 1994

I've only experience with a few shops around here, but in
my humble opinion, _The Briar Shoppe_ in Eugene, Oregon is
one of the most friendly, helpful shops around.  They don't
have the largest selection I've seen, but they've always
been kind and courteous to this neophyte.  Please add this
shop to your list.


  --  Dan'l

*************************************    Two of the gravest general
*  ???????????????????              *    dangers to survival are the
*-----------------------------------*    desire for comfort and a
*  Like this university HAS an      *    passive outlook.
*  opinion!                         *                     -- SH 21-76
*************************************    U.S. Army Ranger Handbook
[ Thanks for the note -- and your .sig contains some words to live by,
especially today. Also see today's Snappy Comeback, which just
happened to come up in the rotation. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????? (Christopher Troise)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #145 - June 3, 1994


This is my first letter to your group.  I am 26 years and have been
smoking pipes and cigars on and off for the past ten or so years.  For
everybody out there who gets too stressed and uptight about not being
able to smoke at home with your loved one, don't forget there is
always wine!  I can always relax and forget about the cares of the
world sitting anywhere I want in my house with a nice glass of vino.
And as long as I'm willing to pay I can drink any kind of wine I want
- no embargoes here folks!  Also, afterwards, you don't have to brush
your teeth a hundred times, or wash your clothes in acid, and who
knows, maybe afterwards the two of you might get into the mood for
other things as well!

Chris "All in good humor" Troise

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From: ???????????????? (Elliott C. Evans)
Subject: Nat Sherman's

"Steven Shoopak" <????????????????????????> writes:
> [...] Nat Sherman.  I walked in, sniffed around...not bad.
> However, what's your opinion of the place?

Well, I was smoking Virgina Circles for a couple of months,
and pipes for only about a year longer than that, when I wandered
into Nat Sherman's in NYC. I only had about five minutes to spend,
so I quickly bought some pipe tobacco (should have bought a fresh 
box of cigs, too) and scampered off.

The salesmen were dressed in suits but were very courteous to me, a
scruffy looking student carrying a large duffle. Even though the shop
is right on Fifth Aveneue in the largest city in the world I saw the
staff converse on a friendly level with some people who appeared to be
regulars. I value that kind of thing.

I didn't have a chance to sample any of their cigar humidor, but Nat
Sherman's cigarettes are simply the best packaged cigarettes I have
*ever* smoked. The pipe tobacco I bought was the best and most suited
to my tastes that I have *ever* bought. The Nat Sherman's store in New
York was one of the nicest tobacconists I have *ever* visited.

If you're going to be in the area, would you be able to pop in and
snag me a couple ounces of "Golden Virginian"? I'd sell my best briar
for more of that leafy nectar! Of course, that still leaves me my
meerschaum. =^>

| Elliott C. "Eeyore" Evans            |
| Technical Writer, Ansoft Corporation |
| ????????????????      Pittsburgh, PA |

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From: Kevin <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Moderated mailgroup for cigars, pipes, fine tobacco

Hi Steve, 

Thanks for sending me the mailgroup so quickly.

My name is Kevin Stampfl, I'm a student at UC Davis. I'm 25 and have been 
smoking pipes and cigars since I was 13. I bought my first pipe at 14 
while vacationing in Australia, under the pretense that it was a gift for 
my father. My smoking habits vary, however I rarely exceed once or twice 
a week. I guess that makes me a dilletant. There's nothing I love better 
than to sit with friends drinking single malt scotches and sucking on 
good cigars. Anyways, I have mixed feelings about the whole smoking thing 
since cigarettes bug the hell out of me and I study toxicology. However I 
certainly would never begrudge anyone the right to smoke whatever they 
want, including cigarettes, opium, or arsenic, and I'm glad there is a non 
political forum for the discussion of pipes and cigars. 


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From: ???????????????????????? (Jim Richmond)
Subject: missed 144

	For some reason or another I missed 144. Would you be so kind as 
to send it to me when you get the chance. I also want to take this opportunity
to brag on my wife. Apparently I had been a good boy recently so on a shopping 
trip with her sister, my wife surprised me by stopping at our local smoke shop 
and picking me up some cigars including a few Romeo y Julietta's. The guys at
the shop were so amazed by a wife buying her husband cigars that they gave 
her double doses of help. She said the were EXTREMELY helpful. What a woman!


[ What a fine lady she is, Jim! See the next post. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????? (Lynsa/MrHenry)
Subject: Re: Moderated mailgroup for cigars, pipes, fine tobacco

Hello there--

My fiance and I both smoke cigars and pipes, him leaning toward cigars,
me toward pipes. Put us on the list.


Lynsa is ?????????????????????: Look for the Stack O' Love version 2.0,
the Ultimate MSTie database, at finer ftp sites until further notice!
Remember: If MST Databases are Outlawed, Only Cabot Will Have MST
Databases. And check out my mutating-every-hour World Wide Web home
page: http://www.teleport.com:80/~lynsared

[ Done, Lynsa! Your fiance is a _very_ lucky man to have someone who
enjoys fine tobacco as he does. And who likes MST3K to boot! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Pipes Mailgroup

Thanks for the fast turn-around in signing up.  Any or all of the back
issues you could send would be appreciated.  I would like to get
caught up before commenting on what is new to me, but might be old
news to others.

On your list of pipe shops I do have a couple of suggestions to add.

The Owl Shop two locations, one in Worcester Mass, the other in New
Haven.  They are run by George Photakis (Worcester) and his sister,
Mrs. St. James.  David Sklar from Yale should send us all a review of
the New Haven store as they are feet from Yale and probably started
the tradition of giving claypipes to the seniors at the local
finishing school, aka Yale.

 Mrs. St. James is a jewel, running what she describes as the oldest
tobacconist in thecountry.  She currently (when I was there in April)
had many old Algerian briars left from the early 1960's. Seems during
the Black Panther trials held in New Haven in the 1960's led
Mr. St. James to take the pipes to his home where they languished
until now.  George runs a great store in Worcester, selling his own
blends, as well as some made in New Haven.  George's son, John, used
to make pipes on the second floor, but he has not done so since I
first went in five years ago.  I did find one of his pipes through
Levin International (it is a great pipe) and am looking for more.  If
anyone wants to get rid of any, please send mail.

The second store you should add is Perreti's in Boston. (21/2 Park
Square) It has been there for years, has a good catalog for the
asking, and their own blends.

Having done my bit to add names to the list, let me tell you about my
collection/interests.  I started with a pipe years ago in college,
gave it up, and have come back in the last several years.  The early
pipes were seconds from Leavitt & Pierce in Cambridge, augmented by
Ehrlich (their sister store) in the past ten years.  I then found
Barry Levin and tried, at the urging of a friend, Upshalls, moving up
to Charatons.  At this point I tend toward the used/collector pipes,
as I feel they offer better value, and want to add to the Upshalls,
Charatons, Photakis which I have.  I am also considering Italians, but
of the three I have had so far, one is so-so, one I gave to a friend,
and one I still have under advisement to see if it will prove to be
worth keeping.  In the meantime, I would consider swapping it (it is a
rough finish Brebbia, full bent).

Thanks for the info.

Stephen Wyman

PS  Which address is the proper one to use?  This or the one listed as

[ ???????????????????????? gets me more directly. Thanks, and welcome!
-S. ]

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #146 - June 9, 1994
  2. Subject: Proposed Smoking Ban / Workplace
  3. Subject: Smoking problem
  4. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #145 - June 3, 1994
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #145 - June 3, 1994
  6. Subject: Pipes Digest #145 - June 3, 1994
  7. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #145 - June 3, 1994
  8. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #145 - June 3, 1994
  9. Subject: Nat Sherman's
  10. Subject: Re: Moderated mailgroup for cigars, pipes, fine tobacco
  11. Subject: missed 144
  12. Subject: Re: Moderated mailgroup for cigars, pipes, fine tobacco
  13. Subject: Pipes Mailgroup
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