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Subject: Pipes Digest #161 -- October 7, 1994

		 Pipes Digest #161 -- October 7, 1994
		     Circulation this issue: 550

Welcome to new members:

	 Karl R. Witsman		(???????????????????????????????)
	 Toby Boreham			(????????????????????????)
	 Debbie Santucci		(???????????????????????)
	 Bill Sempf			(????????????????????????????????)
	 Jeff				(??????????????????)
	 Peter Watkins			(?????????????????????????)
	 Gabrielle Giroux		(???????????????????????????????????)
	 Jay R. Dew			(?????????????????????????????)
	 John A. Klimowicz		(???????????????????????)
	 Mike Kurt			(?????????????????????????)
	 Michael Bywater		(???????????????????????????)
	 Scot B. Rans			(??????????????????)
	 Michael Slocik			(?????????????)
	 Greg Beaulieu			(???????????????????)
	 Chavete			(???????????????)

Administrative notes: The Digest is going to be a bit irregular for
the next few weeks; I have a long weekend followed by a week-long
business trip to Erlangen, Germany. So if the Digest doesn't arrive on
Friday, don't panic!

Also, I've instituted an advertising policy. Simply stated: Once is
information, more than once is advertising. Members are free to post
about tobak-related items or services they sell commercially, provided
that it is done only once and is reasonably brief. (Of course, the
Resource Guide is forever... :-)

So with that, let us light up, enjoy the crisp autumn air and the
scent of the leaves and fine tobak, as we entertain thoughts of tins,
chin rests, history, Aikido, the Adirondacks, tins, tea, theatrics,
and tins...

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	     Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
			Call -- Write -- Vote
			Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: ???????????? Mon Oct  3 21:08:07 1994
Subject: Short BIO-VEJ1

My puffing bio starts back in Martinsvile,VA .  It was there at the National
Theatre where customers and my staff used to "borrow" cigarettes.  Lucky
Strikes.  I smoked about 1/2 a pack a day, but my purchases were 4 packs a

I had to stop this!

The solution was obvious at the local drug store...where I spotted a pipe and
two packs of Carter Hall for $2.00.  The pipe was no name "IMPORTED
BRIAR"..... I asked for domestic briar, but he drugist did not have any.  The
pipe broke the borrowing for about a week.

My two major "moochers" of ciggys switched to pipes and the borrowing of
tobacco was in full swing within a month.  It was less expensive than the

Through service (USAF) and college  (UNC-Chapel Hill), and through several
jobs I continued with the pipe. I  built a small collection of Amphora pipes
(send in eight coupons and $$), Kaywoodies, and a series of  brandless

My favorite tobaccos have always been mild aromatics with an occasional
experimental brand.  Carter Hall, Amphora, Flying Dutchman (when I could
afford it), Half & Half, etc....etc....I think I have tried everything in the
drug stores.......Including "London Dock".
The tobacco that announces your arrival the second you enter a building.  It
had an affinity to HVAC systems.

About 12 years ago, here in Richmond, I attended the 2nd meeting of  Conclave
of Richmond Pipesmokers and started learning about tobbaco, briar, and
collectable pipes.  It was at this meeting I purchased my first pipe that
cost more than 25.oo.  It was an "American" and it smokes great.......I still
have it in my collection.

My current collection numbers about 300 pipes.  Many very
collectible.....some I smoke, others not.  The collection consists of
 briars, meershaums, rose woods, clay, and two corncobs.

In my collecting I pursue Larsens,  Ascorti,  American, and some others if
they have an interesting shape.  A 1924 Kaywoodie "chin rester" probably is
the most interesting shape and a Becker straight grain (perfect) modern bent
is probably my best pipe. I have not smoked either of the two.

The current tobacco is "AALBURG" from the Tinderbox and  I am looking forward
to their new release: "Chairman's Choice"...excellent smoke-----very mild, a
very slight flavor of fruit.  It burns very well and cool.

I have come to the following conclusion:  The pipes in the $60 - 150 range
will smoke MUCH better than the 16.00 drug store variety....BUT, beyond that
you are purchasing vanity wood and/or collectibles.......the increase in
price does not provide you with an equal amount of better smokability.  I
hope this statement will start a  friendly discussion.

The second conclusion of the day:  I better stop this verbal "puffing" and
return my attention to the pipe.

Happy Smoking!!!!!   

[ Chin rester? -S. ]

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From: "Mr V. Sereno" <????????????????????>
Subject: pipes

I tried to mail you a couple of weeks ago, but the message was
logged as unknown. I have,once more got your address from the alt.pipes
net. I trust it is correct now.
I came across the pipe net whilst 'browsing'. I didn't think there were many of
us left now. Not too many in England, but we still keep going.
Could be the costs here are far more than most other countries.
I have been pipe smoking for some 40years, which doubtless sounds
geriatric. I started as a teenager, along with cigarettes, but a couple
of Uncles took me to their specialist pipe shop, where I was 'fitted'
with a suitable pipe & given a sample 'fill of baccy'. Every day, on
my way back from school (or college) I went in for a fill of a different 
brand - until I found the one that suited me. I stuck with it for years
until the shop in Manchester (Thorburn Clarke) closed.  I used to buy
my pipes there -they made them & they even made me a tiny pipe by cutting
down a real small model, when my son was born. It was the best thing for
teething too.  I must admit that my wife got a bit stroppy about the smell
 of the tobacco & I now compromise with an aromatic.
Time to go back to my little room in the University - recogniseable cos it
has curls of smoke rolling under the door & you need fog lamps to find
my desk - since, for some strange reason I haven't lit up today.
I'll keep browsing the net & have indicated on our (genuine) internet
menu that I want to subscribe.

May your baccy never extinguish
puff in peace
???????????????        {Victor Sereno, History Dept. Liverpool University

[ Thanks for the note, Victor! There are more of us than we may
realize. -S. ]

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From: "Don S. Johnson" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest #160 -- October 3, 1994

For sale: Two meerschaum pipes to someone who will appreciate and cherish
them. One, 35 years old, hand carved billiard made by Joe Roth of New York
City, smooth with modern design on bowl. The other, 30 years old, bent
carved in Turkey with grapes and grape leaves pattern on bowl. Both coloring
nicely; both have had original screwshanks replaced with push. Reason for
selling is that I find I smoke my briars far more than these and it seems a
shame to have them languish on the rack. Price? Best offer for each/both.

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From: ???????????????????????????????
Subject: fermented/EPA & 2nd hand smoke

Black tea is fermented similar to Louisiana Perique tobacco, in its own 
juices. Tea producers use machines to Cut, Tear, and Curl (CTC) the 
harvested leaves of the tea bush. Tearing will bruise the leaf to release 
the juices from its structure. This juice then ferments to change the 
character of the tea or tobacco. "Ferment" is a word that implies the use 
of yeast. I prefer the word "Fester". Bruised tea or tobacco leaves will 
pick up spores that grow in the released juice, festering to give the 
characteristic note to
the product.
So could you explain how the tobacco is altered between when it's picked 
and when I smoke it?  Being a homebrewer, I assume that the natural 
sugars in the plant are somehow altered.  In beer [et al] yeast perform 
this function.
And I found the Hobbit reference to enjoying some ale, then voiced a 
preference for a stout.  Stouts are generally fermented w/ lager yeasts 
and do not have the fruity characteristic of ales. 
YES I'm the same Steve Johnson who wrote those articles for the A & M 
Gazette.  My next Gazette article will be on the EPA secondhand smoke 
report, and I'll pass it along to you as soon as it's done.  Let me know 
if you have PKZip, 'cause I prefer uploading & downloading compressed 
I don't know about the other readers, but I would be VERY MUCH INTERESTED 
in hearing what you have to say.
Neil Flatter                 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Chemistry - Math (CMA)       Department of Chemistry Stockroom Manager
Novell Supervisor            5500 Wabash Avenue 73
(812) 877 - 8316             Terre Haute, IN 47803-3999
 FAX: 877 - 3198             ???????????????????????????

[ I'm in the process of getting the articles from Steve. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: New 

         Who am I? Well I'm 28 years old. Started smoking cigarettes when I
was 11 or 12, and up until this year, when I found the cigar. 
          Actually it was Christmas Eve morning, and as usual just started my
shopping. On the way I figured I'd stop in the closest tobacco shop ( I was a
little pressed for time.) and get a pack of Prince cigarettes, the ones I
bought for special occassions. Normally I smoked those Marlboro Reds
Anyway, this time, I was drawn into the humidor as if by divine intervention
and proceeded to peruse the cigar selection. I knew I was going to buy one,
but which one, there were so many? So I grabbed the one that like it was a
premium one by its price and box, a Pliades ?. As I lit up and started on my
way I realized I was driving slower than everybody else on the freeway and
not even stressed about the list of gifts I needed to complete within 6
hours. It didn't matter and the taste so smooth, and the stench normally
associated with cigars was gone. What was happening here? I was actually
enjoying the pleasures of smoking again. 
          I am now a cigar smoker and enjoy every minute of it. My current
choice is a Sosa Governer or Wavell. It is my daily meditation and therapy
          It has been years since I sampled the pipe and admire those who can
keep it lit and not overheat it. Maybe I'll try it again someday.
          Thank you for starting my subscription I look foward to  future
issues and any back issues, FAQ's or other info you can send me. I'm new to
the Internet and how to find and retrieve information. I am also limited by
what AOL has to offer.
          Oh, by the way, my real name is Jeff Guarino. Thanks Again.

[ I can send you all the back issues, Jeff, but how much space do you
have to store them? There are about 2 megabytes' worth. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????????
Subject: Pipe Mailgroup

Mr. Masticola,

        I am responding to your post about the Pipes Mailgroup.  I am
interested in receiving the group's "newsletter" or whatever it is
        Also, I have another question that you may be able to answer
or at least enlist some reaction.  I would post it, but I have been
unable to successfully post to the USENet thus far; I'm rather new to
the Internet.
        I am curious about pipe smokers' opinions on tin tobacco as
opposed to tobacco measured from the smoke shop jar.  I note that
Dunhill has several mixtures available in tins, for example.
        Thank you.  I look forward to joining in the discussion.


Jay R. Dew

[ Tins obviously keep longer, and are thus more suited for aging.
Other than that, I've found that, like anything else, quality varies.
Any other thoughts? -S. ]

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From: ?????????????? (Richard S Bourgeois)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #160 -- October 3, 1994

Steve, thanks so much for continuing to maintain and mail the list: it's been a
source of good information and a spark for new interests in smoking.  Since I
finally appear to have some free time I'll drop out of lurk mode and introduce
I'm 24, a raving bachelor, and live in a cozy little apartment in Schenectady
NY where the landlords have outlawed cigarettes but make a special
dispensation for my pipes.  My daytime job is in engineering with GE gas
turbines, ever the competitor of Siemens.  (gosh, I hope THEY don't find out
I've been communicating with the enemy!:)  I'm also a part time grad student
at RPI, a dedicated student of Aikido, and an actor in local theater.  This
last activity has really caused a jump in my smoking in the past few weeks, as
opening night for Jesus Christ Superstar fast approaches and I still don't
have all my "hosanna heysannah"s ironed out.  I seem to recall some discussion
a few digests ago regarding beards and their correlation with pipe smoking:
 for the sake of science and data, I am one of those insipid goateed
I started smoking pipes as an ugrad at Boston University, through my
involvement with student theater.  At all the parties everyone smoked
cigarettes.  I didn't like the smell, so I started smoking pipes to surround
myself with smoke I did like.  (a more creative option, i think, than
screaming and legislating)  Ever the practical engineer, I tried it out first
as cheaply as possible with a corncob and a small bag of generic junk from
CVS.  Later I came to know Peretti's and Ehrlich's well.  Cigars came much
later, in fact only last year.  These I only smoke when I'm at a pub or
restaurant that carries a good selection, since I don't smoke enough to
justify investing in a humidor and keeping a stock at home.
My favorite pipes right now are a well-aged, well-tanned meerschaum of bent
bulldog shape and a bee-yootiful Peterson.  If I'm going to be smoking
outdoors for an extended time I use a Peterson second.  My favorite tobacco is
called Adirondack Blend, available from Pipe&Book in Lake Placid NY.  I just
go up there (~2 hrs) whenever I`m low and get another few pounds.  I have no
idea what's in it, only that it's cavendish based.  Next time I go I will try
to get the formula.
My interests right now include learning more about cigars and finding a good
one to keep a stock of, as I'm starting to enjoy cigars more and more.  I've
been raiding antique stores and estate sales lookign for an antique humidor,
too.  Well, I'm off again... (lurk,lurk,lurk)

[ Thanks for the note, Richard! I remember trying, and liking, the
Adirondack Blend too. -S. ]

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From: STEPHEN JUDD <?????????????????????>
Subject: Intro & taking the plunge

I thought I'd delurk and introduce. I've been toying with the idea of replacing
my semi-regular cigarettes with pipe and cigars for some time, and regular
reading of alt.smokers.pipes and the pipes webpage have pushed me over the
edge. A pipe might look a little odd in the mouth of a 25 yr old, but I'm sure
I'll grow into it. Tomorrow, I shall go forth and purchase a corn-cob and some
Amphora... and there's a nice looking briar I've got my eye on. 

The pipe smoking fraternity (are there any women among you?) must form the
most mellow part of the internet I've come across in a long bout of netsurfing,
and I can't help but think that the gentlemanly and relaxed attitude of those
who post to the Digest and a.s.pipes plays a part in my decision to take up the
pipe. And my wife certainly approves of the repeated injunctions to check
spousal preferences when choosing tobacco.

I wonder - are there any subscribers to the digest from this part of the world?
Good tobacconists in New Zealand are hard to find, and while I've had pleasant
chats with the owners of the two (Yup - two) halfway decent tobacconists in
Hamilton, I'd like to explore the resources in other parts of this country as

It's a great job you're doing there Steve. Good on you.

Stephen J

[ Stephen, so far, you're the only subscriber with a .nz suffix,
though we have a couple from Australia. And there are some women among
us, so I suppose it's a coterie (apologies to Tom Dunn). Welcome, and
thanks! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????????
Subject: submission

To fellow pipe smokers:

        I am new to the group here, so I hope my comments and
questions are welcome and germane.
        First, as requested for new members, a little about myself.
I am a 23 year old graduate student at the University of Oklahoma,
where I am working toward the PhD in history.  In spite of the poor
job market and low financial rewards, I think a career as a history
professor would suit me.  I study American history in general, the
American West in particular, and still more specifically, issues of
violence, justice, and legal history.  If any of you share these
interests, please do not hesitate to e-mail me.  I'm sure some of my
colleagues are lurking about in this group.  When I am not reading
history, I love a good mystery.  I am particularly fond of Mr.
Holmes, another devotee of the pipe.
        Now, on to pipes. I've been a pipe smoker for only about
three years, and it tends to go in cycles.  A lot of it has to do
with the weather, as I rarely smoke indoors.  Summers here in the
Southwest don't make outdoor smoking a very pleasant activity.
During the winter, on the other hand, I very much enjoy the briar on
a crisp morning or clear evening.
        Until only recently, the pipes I smoked were relatively
cheap.  Finally I mustered up the nerve to purchase a better quality
one--and what a difference!  I plan to save and scrounge so that I
can replace my old pipes with new ones, but that will be a slow
process.  For now, going through the rotation of my pipes is an odd
experience: bad, bad, bad, GOOD, bad, etc.
        Enough about me.  While I have your attention, I'd like to
offer a question for discussion.
        I am curious about pipe smokers' opinions on tin tobacco as
opposed to tobacco measured from the smoke shop jar.  I note that
Dunhill has several mixtures available in tins, for example.
        With that, I bid you all farewell and take your leave


Jay R. Dew

[ You're not the only one, Jay! See above. -S. ]

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From: Patrick Benard <??????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe net

        After reading your news group for the last few weeks, I've
decided to post.  I'll forgo the traditional smokers bio for now, but
I'll climb my electronic pulpit and begin...  I have recently
celebrated my first decade as a pipe smoker and feel as engrossed in
the ritual today, as I did with my first Algerian Briar billiard
shaped pipe bought at the tender age of sixteen from Blatter and
Blatter in Montreal.
	The key to complete smoking enjoyment, I believe, is not to be
addicted to tobacco.  I know that this is no mean feat, but consider
the following:
 Part of the pleasure, along with the aroma, taste...  of the pipe is
the domestication of fire and the extreme control one has over keeping
the pipe lit while not having it burn too strong. This pleasure is
surely minimized if the act of smoking is no longer a choice but a
need.  In fact, an absolute contradiction arises in enjoying the
control you exercise in your pipe bowl, yet not having control of your
own will.  I smoke two or three times a week, on average, more in the
spring and fall, less in the summer. An added pleasure is added to my
smoking, by walking the addiction highwire (must be a Catholic thing).
Could I choose not to have that next smoke, or is the need so great
that it becomes difficult to resist?  When I feel less control over my
own decisions, I know its time to cut back and perhaps do without for
a few weeks. What fun! you say. Well try it and I'm sure you'll
appreciate the new gained self control, and mastery of your wants and
desires.  Furthermore, because the act of smoking is somewhat
infrequent, each smoke is special.  Each is given the proper
ceremonial process and sufficient time is allocated to this noteworthy
	My method also gives you a justified smugness towards other
smokers: The familiar justification that pipe smoking _is_ different
is reinforced.  The instant gratification of the cigarettes is far
removed from the original spiritual and ceremonial uses of the blessed
leaf.  I certainly don't mean to lapse into new-age pop philosophy,
but I believe that many simple every day acts can be improved on if
one devotes even a moment of thought to them.  Many pipe smokers I
see, seem to have lost the _spirit_ of pipe smoking. They smoke pipe
after pipe without ever taking account of what it is they are doing.
These people are better suited to the cigarette and have found
themselves in pipeland for all the wrong reasons.  I believe pipe
smoking should be practiced infrequently (certainly never more then
twice a day), to maximize enjoyment, increase self awareness, and self
control and finally to keep pipe smoking the extraordinary event it
should be.
	Obviously, individuals that partake in something as
interesting as a pipe smokers discussion group are unlikely to be
clueless smokers, and this is part of the pleasure of subscribing to
this list.  Keep up the great job.


P.S.  I don't know if Blatter and Blatter are listed in your reference
guide, but if they are not, let me know and I'll hunt down the
information.  In my opinion, they have the finest large bowl pipes in
North America. They also have a complete catalogue and if I remember
correctly, they do sell by mail.

[ No, they're not, but I'd be happy to put them in if you can furnish
an address. And I agree about the choice between addiction and
pleasure.  "Moderation in all things," said Publius Terentius Afer; I
take this to mean a middle road between austerity and overindulgence. -S. ]

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From: "A.W. Donovan-Shead" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Smoke Signal #2.

October 5, 1994.

     We are having some beautiful fall weather here in Oklahoma.
Fine time to indulge in *Aroma Therapy*, out in the garden with a
folding leather pouch of Balkan Sobranie's 759, and a Dublin from
Peterson's Emerald line.

     "Pipe Digest #159" contained a qualm or two with smoking as it
affects the health of the smoker. Life, gentlemen and ladies, is a
risky business. What would you have, one hundred years of mediocre
existence, or seventy really good years? Unless you are inhaling
cigar and pipe smoke into your lungs, you shouldn't have too much
risk of damaging your health. Health of cigarette smokers is at
most risk. Carl Weber's "Guide to Pipes and Pipe Smoking" has a
chapter devoted to the Surgeon General's Report on Smoking. Anyone
smoking cigarettes should consider changing to a pipe or cigars and
stop inhaling smoke into the lungs; emphysema can be the result of
long-term inhalation, as can a weakened heart. Weber thinks that
inhaling smoke produces a mildly erotic shock of asphyxiation, once
the smoker gets over the urge to choke, which is why people like to
do it. He says that pipe smokers shouldn't take smoke into the
lungs. Nicotine from the strong pipe tobacco is easily absorbed
into the bloodstream through the soft tissues of the mouth and
nasal passages. I can testify this as a fact.

     My Dad was a pipe and cigarette smoker of fifty years
standing. He quit, eventually, and is still with us at age seventy-
six. My early smokes were Will's Whiffs, Mannikin, and Hamlet
cigars none of which did much for me beyond the pleasant aroma.
Somehow, my Dad acquired a couple of clay cutty's one of which I
loaded with some dried shreds of Gold Block, gleaned from the Old
Man's spent tins. After lighting with a Swan Vesta, I puffed away
much as I do now, without inhaling to the lungs. Within five
minutes I was overcome by dizziness and a powerful feeling of
nausea ameliorated by lying on the floor. Not feeling much better,
I crawled off to bed to sleep off the headache and palpitating
heart produced by the nicotine from strong tobacco in a new clay
pipe, absorbed through the lining of my mouth.

     These days I enjoy strong tobacco in a decent briar, smoking
at a more leisurely, contemplative pace. "Weber's Guide to Pipes
and Pipe Smoking" is a Rutledge Book, ISBN 0-87469-037-4. It is a
good introduction, worth the $5 I paid Ted's Pipe Shop in Tulsa.
They had a stack of these books for sale. Twelve chapters are its

               1.   Why Smoke?
               2.   The Surgeon General's Report.
               3.   The Early History of Smoking.
               4.   The Later History of Smoking.
               5.   Many Kinds of Pipe.
               6.   The King of Pipes.
               7.   The Pipe for You.
               8.   The Tobacco for You
               9.   How to Enjoy Smoking a Pipe
               10   Pipe Accessories
               11.  Pipe Etiquette.
               12.  Pipe Smoking for Women.

          Give a man a pipe he can smoke,
          Give a man a book he can read:
          And his home is bright with a calm delight,
          Though the room be poor indeed.

                                   James Thomson.

     Georges Herment says in his book "The Pipe" that clay pipes
give the best smoke once they are seasoned. He warns the novice
smoker to be prepared to be shaken to the core by smoking a clay
pipe; he is quite correct. Herment says that the best way to season
a clay is to gently smoke it occasionally, in sequence with one's
briars. Start out by smoking the clay pipe infrequently, increasing
the frequency as its seasoning improves. He says that to persevere
with a clay pipe will be well worth the dedicated smoker's effort.

     Despite popular myth, Conan Doyle's character Sherlock Holmes
was not given to smoking a calabash. Watson tells us that Holmes
favourite pipe was a blackened clay. Not only that, Holmes' first
pipe of the day was charged with the dottles of the previous days
smokes; now that's what I call a jump-start.

     While we are talking about dottles, I recall, aged about six
or seven years, travelling to school in London by London Transport
Omnibus. Smoking was permitted on the upper-deck. Up there the
tougher school kids scavenged under the seats for cigarette ends.
These were carefully broken apart, the tobacco being saved in an
old tobacco tin in which, together with the tobacco from numerous
dog-ends, was kept a packet of cigarette papers and a few strike-
anywhere matches. Once each kid collected enough tobacco they would
roll a fresh cigarette and light up; makes me sick just thinking of

     In "Pipe Digest #160" we talked a bit about tea, should anyone
be interested in reliable supplies of Lapsang Souchong and other
fine teas, write to the following address:

                    Whittard of Chelsea,
                    73 Northcote Road,
                    London SW11 6PJ,
                    England, G. B.

                    Tel: 011-44-71-924-1888 from USA
                    Fax: 011-44-71-924-3085 from USA

Request their catalogue. They accept Mastercard and Visa, and ship
anywhere in the world. Even with the cost of airmail postage, tea
is cheaper from England than from the local grocery store here in
the States.

     Northcote Road is at the bottom of Battersea Rise, which leads
to Clapham Common where E. M. Forster's paternal family lived for
many years. Sadly, their house is no more. Forster is he of "A
Passage to India" fame. A good book to go with a pipe.

     Next time I will talk more about Georges Herment's book "The
Pipe" and H. M. Tomlinson's book "The Sea and the Jungle". Both
books refer to pipes and tobacco and may be enjoyed in company with
the reader and his or her pipe.


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From: Victor Reijs <???????????????????????>
Subject: two things;-)

Hello Steve,

The PipeDigest running very good, don't you think so! Thanks
for all the work you are putting in it! Also the WWW-server
(http://www.craycos.com/~beaty/pipes/pipes.html) is good.

I have two things:
- is it possible to put a distribution list on your digest. I
just have set up a Dutch distribution list on cigars. People
can say they thing about the smoking habit. In this case most
will be related to the Dutch enviroment. It I would like to
provide these people automaticaly with your digest. Is this
possibel (it could decrease the traffic between Holland and
US;-). The name of the list is: [deleted -S.]. There
will be no automatic traffic van this list to you.
Anyway: Could you also incorporate this Dutch distribution
list in your reference guide? The name is:
[deleted -S.].  Subscribtions to:
- with regard to smoking over the nose. It is a method to find
out if a cigar is sharp. One can experience the sharpness of a
cigar much better over the nose (because the nose is more

All the best,


[ With Victor's consent, I edited the name of the Dutch cigar digest
mail reflector out to prevent it from getting mailbombed, now that
anyone can read the Resource Guide and the back issues of the
Digest. And, yes, I think the mailgroup is doing famously; one of my
more successful endeavours currently! Thanks for organizing the Dutch
cigar list, Victor! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: #2(2) Pipes Digest #160 -- October 3, 1994

Just a note about an article in my local paper, The Columbus (OH) Dispatch..
taked a little about the Cigar Dinners being held by a local tobacco store (
Smoker's Haven - Downtown ) and the fact that cigar smoking is coming into
vougue. The accompanying photo was one of an attractive woman smoking a
cigar. Be still, my heart. ( according to the artical there were about 10
women there, to 60 or so men ) In a way, I'm glad to see that more people are
coming to realize the pleasure to be had in a fine cigar ( the article quoted
someone referring to the fact that a cigar is something NOT to be rushed ),
on the other hand, I hope the trend is not to make cigar smoking " common."
  (( well.. as common as could be expected considring the political/social
climate of the hour ))
Anyway.... Smoke in Peace.   :-)\U~~~

[ Thanks, Gideon! Perhaps if you could provide us with the details,
some of our other Columbus-based readers would be interested. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: #2(3) Your Pipes Digest s...

Dear Sir,
  Many thanks for the subscription to Pipes Digest.  It looks like many hours
of great reading ahead.
  You asked for a short bio on me, so I'll tell you a little about myself.
 I'm 40 years old and have been a cigar smoker for more years than I care to
remember.  I prefer rich, strong Honduran cigars such as Hoyo de Monterrey
and Punch.  I also like Mexican cigars like Te Amo.  Whatever I smoke, I can
assure you that it will be in the sweet maduro wrapper!
  I'm also a woodworker and have drawn a set of plans for cigar humidors with
complete assembly instructions.  I would like very much to advertise my
humidor plans in future issues of Pipes Digest so that your readers can save
hundreds of dollars by "building their own".  Please advise me as to the
details of advertisment.
  Well, I hear a Hoyo rothschild calling me.  Thanks again, and I remain

[ later... -S. ]

>>Re advertisement, just give me your snailmail address and I'll put it
in the Resource Guide. You're welcome to publish it in one issue of
the Digest, too.

Thanks -- I've encountered a lot of people trying to find humidor

Thanks!  My snailmail address is: Chavete, PO Box 5561, Slidell, LA 70469

I sell plans to build a humidor that can fit any budget and
woodworking ability.  And the price is right, too.  5 dollars ( a
five-dollar bill, no checks) gets you precise drawings and three page
cutting, gluing, clamping, assembly, and finishing instructions for
building a humidor from easy-to-get materials.
I would like to advertise in the Digest whenever possible.

         a thousand thanks!

[ See above regarding the Digest advertising policy. I know there are
a lot of people who would appreciate humidor plans, so I hope some of
our woodworking members avail themselves. -S. ]

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		       Today's Snappy Comeback:

(The Pensive Parry:)  [pause to savor your cigar] "Every time I light
up, somebody asks me that." 

				- From "101 Ways to Answer the
				  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
				  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #161 -- October 7, 1994
  2. Subject: Short BIO-VEJ1
  3. Subject: pipes
  4. Subject: Pipes Digest #160 -- October 3, 1994
  5. Subject: fermented/EPA & 2nd hand smoke
  6. Subject: Re: New
  7. Subject: Pipe Mailgroup
  8. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #160 -- October 3, 1994
  9. Subject: Intro & taking the plunge
  10. Subject: submission
  11. Subject: Pipe net
  12. Subject: Smoke Signal #2.
  13. Subject: two things;-)
  14. Subject: Re: #2(2) Pipes Digest #160 -- October 3, 1994
  15. Subject: Re: #2(3) Your Pipes Digest s...
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