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Subject: Pipes Digest #164 - November 4, 1994

		 Pipes Digest #164 - November 4, 1994
		     Circulation this issue: 604

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Also, for U.S. citizens, this will be the last Digest before Election
Day: Tuesday, November 8. Please, remember to vote. And please take
the time to do a little research. Find out the candidates' opinions on
the moderate use of tobacco. See whether they support your Fourth
Amendment right to assemble peacefully for the legal purpose of
smoking. Vote accordingly. Thanks!

With that, my friends, let us light up with a mellow election-eve
smoke as we ponder the finer points of silly gurgles,
eighteen-wheelers, concertos for stogie and aircondition, the
U.S. Capital, London nightlife, J.S. Bach, Vienna, techno,
hod-carrying, religious doctrine, April Fools, Esquimaux, antiquing,
college life, mosquitos, and too, too much more...

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	     Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
			Call -- Write -- Vote
			Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: "M. Arndt" <????????????????>
Subject: A (silly) question


I have what might seem a stupid question in that I can't recall having this
problem before.  I am seasoning a pipe, and am about to the half a bowl stage. 
Before I can smoke the bowl to the bottom, moisture/liquid/whatever builds up
at the bottom of the bowl, so that a draw makes a bubbling sound.  I'm not
drooling into the stem, so I imagine the moisture is released from the tobak. 
So what is going on and how do I prevent it?  I have started pipe smoking again
after a few years respite, and like I said I don't recall having this problem


Matt Arndt

[ I think you're right; the tobacco is too wet. Just let it dry out a
little, and see if that helps. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????? (Russ McClay)
Subject: An Entry to the Digest

Steve --

'Bout time I put my two cents in here...been a happy recipient and
member of this list now for a few issues.  I'm really glad to see
Pipes Digest out here in dataland.

Thought I post a bit about myself and where I'm at with pipesmoking
these days.

I'm originally from Santa Monica, California.  Lived in California
most of my life, though did live in Alaska as a youngster and Oregon
later on for a year.  Been living in Taipei, Taiwan since 1987.  Came
over out of a long-time interest in China and it ended up being home.

I've been around pipes my whole life.  My grandfather smoked them and
so did my step-dad Jack.  Jack was your proverbial pipe smoker.
Couldn't even think of him without a pipe stuck in his mouth or him
tooling/packing/tapping it.  When I think of Jack I think of the sweet
smell of tobacco, and the care/skill with which he practiced his
smoking art.  As I understand it Jack resides in the Holy Heavenly
Smoking Section of the nether-realms.

My grandfather, though a cigarette smoker by habit (not a chainer),
liked smoking pipes and had a pretty good collection of them.

I somehow inherited both my grandfather and stepfather's pipes years

                               *  *  *

Sometime during my trucking days I thought a pipe might be nice break
from the constant machine rolled cigarettes.  Went into the collection
and grabbed a couple that looked good and went to a local Tinder Box
for some tobacco.

Out there somewhere in the 48 contiguous states I was driving through
a long expressionless stretch of highway.  The weather was cool and
I decided to break out the pipes and tobacco I'd brought along.

I knew a little about how to pack a bowl and keep it lit from watching
Jack.  So I packed up a bowl and got it fired up.  I immediately
enjoyed watching the curl of smoke coming out of the bowl swirling out
the window kind of mixing with the smoke from left stack I could see
in the driver mirror.  With the cool breeze blowing in the smell of
good pipe tobacco started filling the cab and bringing back fond
memories of Alaska, the woods, and cozy eves by the fire.  It felt
very natural to hold the pipe.  Obviously a pipe smoker in a previous

I was 21 when I started driving interstate.  Drove for 11 years and
then came here 7 years ago.  39 now.

Though I still smoke cigarettes (usually roll my own), the pipe is still
a fine friend during the cooler months here in Taipei.

                               *  *  *

Pipe smokers here are far and few between.  A lot of the older men
smoke and many like using elaborate cigarette holders. Some of these
holders are nothing more than a pipe with a metal insert that a
cigarette fits into.

However there are a few out there, but unfortunately for them (and me)
there is not one single pipe tobacco store that I know of (been
looking for awhile and inquiries have included the Taiwan Tobacco and
Wine Monopoly Bureau (how's that for a government office name?), and
several of the finer hotels here (which at one time did have good
tobacco shops).

This isn't because Taiwan has anything against smoking.  Smoking is
one of the favorite pasttimes of Chinese.  Though they are starting
anti-smoking campaigns here to some degree, on the Mainland
(China) "everybody smokes".  They smoke cigarettes and for some reason
didn't get the idea of the pipe or a good cigar.

Whatever tobacco I get is either from Hong Kong, where there are some
good shops, or from the states.

Hong Kong
Davidoff (HK Tobacconist)
Shop G12
Gloucester Tower
The Landmark
Central, Hong Kong
Tel. 852.525.5428

Most recently I received an octogonal tin which contained five
roundtins of different blends of Dunhill's choice blends.  Nightcap
(Perique, Turkish, Virgina, Latakia); Mixture 965 (Brown Cavendish,
Macedonia, Latakia); Royal Yacht (Lemon and Bronze Virginia); Standard
Mixture Medium (Traditional English Tobacco); and Early Morning Pipe
(Oriental, Latakia, Bright and Red Virginia).  This is a real treat.

The only pipe tobacco available here is Captain Black (I think), sold
in small pouches.  Freshness in question.

I do occasionally enjoy a cigar that is available at two shops called
Ritmeester.  They're small hand-rolled cigarillos.  Not bad.

Well that's it for this one.  If anyone needs Pipes Digest it's us
over here on this island, where the contents of the digest are
mightily appreciated.

Incidentally, a good friend of mine (an American who has been living
in Asia for 20 years and now resides in Chiang Mai Thailand) also
likes to roll his own tobacco and recently sent me this little
*recipe* (though this might be out of bounds for inclusion in Pipes

Roll Yr Own Cigarette Blend:

"You can get some good pipe tobacco (I like Borkum Riff "Mild"), put
it on a chopping board and chop it up with a cleaver, then mix in
whatever proportion you like with good Virginia, or better yet Yunnan
(note: Province in Mainland China) tobacco. Go down to a Chinese
herbal pharmarcy (easy to find here of course) and buy some "Kuan Tung
Hwa" (Chinese handwritten characters omitted for sake of the
illiterate) which is Chinese for "Coltsfoot."  It's a medicinal herb
used for tonifying the lungs, curing chronic coughs, and other
respiratory problems, and one of the traditional ways of administering
it is to smoke it!  Yessiree, Bob!  Just chop some up on a board, as
above, and blend with your tobaccos.  Not only does it soothe the
lungs and throat, it really tasts good and improves the overall
fragrance and flavor of the smoke.  I use about 1/3 Coltsfoot, 1/2
Borkum Riff Mild, and 1/3 Yunnan blonde.  A major leap forward in
smoking art!"

Russ McClay
Taipei, Taiwan

"Tune For Maximum Smoke"
-Sign on my father's electronic workbench circa 1950's

[ Thanks for the note, Russ! And your father's sign brings back some
memories. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????? (Gary Kahne)
Subject: Re: B&B

>Hi, Gary,
>I remembered from Digest #153 that you run a pipe-friendly B&B in Ottawa.
>Would you like to send your address and phone no. in for the Resource Guide?
>Smoke in peace,
>~\U Steve.

Steve, Thanks for including us in your  Resource Guide. Perhaps you could
also include the information about our B&B that I sent you that ended up
in Digest #163. I had intended it for the Resource Guide.
At any rate the telephone number is (613) 231-6729 and the name is:       
  50 Glebe Bed and Breakfast.
Email is ?????????????????????????
Snail mail is:
Gary Kahne
50 Glebe Ave.
Ottawa Ontario
Canada K1S 2C3 
[ no cigarettes please ]
                                  Look forward to meeting fellow smokers
                                           Gary :-)

[ Thanks, Gary! Into the Guide it goes. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: Miscellaneous...

Hello!  I wanted to let your readers know my experience with the company:  NML
Pipes Direct.  Initially, I requested information from them--they specialize in
new and used pipes.  I received a photographic listing of their current stock,
saw a pipe I loved, and gave them a telephone call to place my order.  Not only
were they friendly, but EXTREMELY outgoing and helpful.  I ordered a second
unsmoked Peterson Holmes pipe at a very reasonable price.  It arrived at my
door--from Burlington, Vermont to Toronto, Ontario--within just a few days.  I
couldn't believe how fast it arrived!  Additionally, a note was attached to
tell me that he had another of the Sherlock Holmes pipes--I was familiar with
the one he was referring to, but his picture, and the time to write me a
personal note to let me know about this pipe was very much         appreciated.
 You can bet that I will order from this business again!  Their address is: 
NML Pipes Direct, 80 Austin Drive, Unit #92, Burlington, Vermont  05401,
Telephone (802) 863-1379.  If you'd like, tell them Dwayne (the Sherlock Holmes
fanatic) from Toronto, referred you...

On a secondary note, I am interested in chatting with other BEARDED,
PIPE-SMOKING MEN of GAY orientation, like myself.  My Internet address is:  

[ Had NML in the Guide already, but thanks! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: 21 Window Salute and other stuff

        I tried to E-mail you back to let you know that I think i can handle
2 megs, but they said I had the wrong address. I'm not sure if my "mailbag"
can handle it, so if you could, start with the FAQ. Thanks.
        Living in the southwest, Arizona to be exact, we've pretty much
passed the days where you could light your cigar or pipe by just stepping
outside. Now that the afternoons and evenings have become bearable, if not
beautiful, I venture outside with Sosa in hand to enjoy the peace and smoke,
to watch my 2 year old terrorize the ants and pull over the old ladies ( on
his scooter police car) for going to slow, and then finally to hear the 21
Window Salute. Huh, you ask? Well , you see, I live in an apartment and with
the weather change, many people opt to turn the AC off at night and open the
window. Until I, the conducter, decide to start the show. With baton in hand
I light the end and wave it around , take a puff or two, and it starts.
Swiish! BANG!!!, Swiish!!!BANG!!! BANG!!!BANG!!!
     It has become an evening ritual on my nights off. Im sure they are
thankful I do work nights. Not for long, Ha Ha! After the Overture, back to
my cigar and son...Now back to you.

[ Sounds like a fun event! Perhaps someday you could organize a
concert? :-) -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Subcription for Pipe and Cigar 


Please use this return address. I am interested in particular the negative
health effects of Cigar Smoking. (Are there any?) for a research project.

Thank you

[ Lots of debate on that one; there are, indeed, some negative effects
of excessive smoking, though there have been some stats to the effect
that pipe and cigar smokers live _longer_ than nonsmokers. I refer you
to Digests #162 and #163. BTW, can someone please explain what the
"relative risk" or "mortality ratio" numbers are supposed to signify
anyway? Briarman? -S. ]

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From: Kevin Cook <???????????????>
Subject: Pipeworks and Wilke

When I was in Manchester, VT last week visiting a friend, I had the 
plesant experience of dicovering that Pipeworks and Wilke had a shop in 
town.  I told my friend (non-smoker, bleh) that I discovered it but he 
told me it had closed.  He was likely happy to tell me that in his own 
way.  SO, I phoned and found that it hadn't yet closed, but that it was 
indeed closing.

They had 30-40% off the pipes in the store (picked up a couple of Wilkes 
and a "restored estate pipe").  They will continue to operate for mail 
order and perhaps asa store as well from their nearby Shaftsbury, VT pipe 

Strangely enough, because I had no idea I that Pipeshop and Wilke was in 
the Vermont town that I would be visiting, I had seen mention in an 
earlier Pipes Digest that they sold an interesting latakia-laden tobacco 
called High Hat.  Thanks for the suggestion,  I don't remember who 
mentioned it though.  I bought 4 oz and am greatly enjoying it; I also 
tried a blend called Equinox (no. 10), 
which is very aromatic because of a blend of Oriental tobaccos and lemon 
virginia.  It smokes wonderfully and has a rich flavour; it reminds me a 
lot of a European mix called Universal Blend.

At $6.50 for 4 oz. this was especially reasonable for me because back 
home in Montreal, a similar quality/quantity would cost closer to $18.  
Definitely a good place to mail order from.

Well, my red rapparee is burning out....


Kevin Cook,

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From: Bill Sempf <????????????????????????????????>
Subject: Thoughts ...

     Taco bell and cavindish is _not_  the greatest combination.

     However, thanks to our esteemed editorUs chance remark, I have discovered 
the fabulous combination including Bengal Slices, his suggestion,  and Chivas 
Regal.  Wow.  I have waited too long to try tobacco thatUs not a RHouse BlendS
IUm glad I did.  Other that the famous Sobraine tobacco, whatUs everyoneUs 
favorite tin?  I would recommend the Slices to anyone who likes an English 
blend.  Also the Mac Baren Mixture, for a heavy aromatic.
     I would like to apologize for my formatting errors that made the otherwise
organized Digest look otherwise.  I make use of my word processor so as that my
spelling does not embarrass me.  I then cut and paste into my mail client, 
where the page layout differs.  I have changed the layout of the page in my 
word processor, so I hope things will look a little better.
     Mr. JohnsonUs article in #162 was a masterpiece, wouldnUt you agree?  
RSlight decreases in [death rates due to cancer in] both ... [pipe and cigar 
smokers]...S ???  This is news, indeed.  Perhaps we should be glad in the 
change in professionals holding the Surgeon General chair, hmm?  Then again, 
legalization of weed, but prohibition of tobak?  Not ...
     I purchased a Nording Signature freehand from my tobacconist at the Tinder
Box recently.  Definitely the best smoke IUve ever had, and it isnUt even 
broken in yet.  I would suggest one to everyone - $45 is a _small_ price to pay
for a smoke this nice, and a signature besides.  A great collectorUs pipe, as 
well.  The pipe is unfinished, and it is already coloring nicely.
     My wife, however, purchased (at the same time - set us back a bit) a 
Savinelli Alligator in a bent bulldog.  This pipe is like a piece of jewelry.  
What a classy look, and a great smoke as well.  I am a pleased man.
     Recently, I received a few back issues of The Pipe SmokerUs Ephermis.  
Fun, but disorganized.   What would everyone think of a pipe mag on the order 
of Cigar Aficionado?  Some 15% advertising, general interest stories like book 
reviews, etc, and the like.  Would it be welcome?  Would it be read?  Any 
manufacturers out there?  Interest in advertising out there?  Any comments, 
thoughts, philosophy, etc. would be appreciated.
     I appreciated KamUs comments on piping while Ron the trailS.  I am looking
forward to getting Rout thereS.  I am also interested in some of that coffee, 
Kam.  Let me know.
     To Ted Wagner, The Tinder Box in Columbus, Ohio has a blend I think youUll
like.  It is called Strawberry, and IUll send you some for a sample of your 
favorite blend.  Get in touch, and weUll trade snail mail addresses.  You also 
might try the Mac Baren Mixture I mentioned above.
     Winter is fast approaching, and I have restarted my study of Aristotle.  
That man would have been a pipe smoker.  His TEthicsU make for good reading 
during a bowl full of a heavy English blend like Connoisseur from the Tinder 
Box.  Give it a try.  Also, Ayn RandUs work is good reading for a heavy 
aromatic like the Mixture.
     An addendum of sorts to Briar ManUs note in #163: I am planning to take a 
day or two from analyzing systems for Sears in the near future and put my 
Information training to work compiling some of the raw facts available from the
1990 census, the S&S smoking study done in T92, and some well known cancer 
research.  I will hope to have some compiled results, which will be available 
for the asking, by January.  Perhaps a hypertext version will be available by 
then, though my HTML is rusty, now.  Would there be room on the smokers URL for
this?  Perhaps.
     Last week, I attended the first Tinder Box Cigar Event held in Columbus in
living memory.  Not only did my friend Ernie pick up the tab, a mere $15, but I
won a box of Santa Rosas also.  What an event.  Mike, the local Tobacconist, 
said that the night was about cigars, not food, so as to keep the tickets 
reasonable.  He succeeded.  Not only were there two cigar rollers there from 
the Santa Rosa factory, but also a major manufacturer of Lucite humidors.  the 
Santa Rosa staff was handing out free, freshly rolled cigars.  If you have not 
had the pleasure, you have really missed out.  What an experience.
     Well, bedtime.  Have a good week.

[ I look forward to reading the results of your efforts, Sempf! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #163 - October 21, 1994

just a note to John A. Klimowicz:
John wrote:

<<I've only been on the internet for a few weeks.  I really
>>appreciate the digest.  It lets me know I'm not the only "tail
>>end baby boomer" smoking a pipe.

Take heart. :-)  
There are a few of us out here. I was born in '63 which I understand makes me
neither a boomer nor an X-er. ( just as well..I've always been somewhat of an
independant anyway , as i suspect many pipe smokers are)  So Greetings from
Columbus, OH and welcome to the NET!    \u~~ ~~ ~~~

[ I'd consider myself a tail-end baby boomer too -- born in 1956. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????? (Thomas A. Hendricks)
Subject: Internet Pipes Mailgroup

Hello Steve,
      My name is Thomas A. Hendricks and I am a 21-year-old senior at Illinois
State University.  I am *very* excited to hear about this development on the
Internet!  Please send me all the information you can about the Internet Pipes
Mailgroup.  I had difficulty reaching you last week because your address had
been misspelled in the A&M Gazette.  Earlier today I called Neil Murray at his
house and he told me about the typo.  How long has this Mailgroup been around?
Can I get any "back issues"? Are you going to be at the IAPSC event this
Saturday?  If so, I would like to meet.  Please respond before Saturday if you
can (I check in almost every day)  I hope this message reaches you safely (I
just learned how to send email about a month ago and I'm just now getting the
hang of it!)
             Thomas A. Hendricks

[ See below for back issues, or mail me if you're unsuccessful with
Mosaic or FTP. And welcome! -S. ]

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From: Victor Reijs <???????????????????????>
Subject: look for nice cigar- or smoking-related places

Hello all of you,

I am staying some days near Reston (close to Washington) from 29/10/94
untill 2/11/94. Now I would like to hear from you, if there are nice
places to visit. I am thinking of places that have something to do
with tabacco (and/or cigars). E.g. nice shops, growing places of
tabacco, factories, etc. I have a car, so I can drive some miles.

Hope somebody can point me out these nice things.

All the best,


[ This will come too late to help, Victor, but Georgetown Tobacco and
W. Curtis Draper, both in the Guide, might be worth a visit. -S. ]

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From: Terence Ronson <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Magazine Article

Dear Sirs,

Having just recently started a subscription to Pipes Digest, I wanted give you
some information about CIGAR tasting evenings in the UK & London.

About every three months, Mosimann's that world famous restaurant
owned by Anton, in conjunction with Hunters & Frankau, the importers
of Cuban Cigars into the UK, hold a cigar tasting evening.

The cost is around UKL85.00/US$135 which includes a four course meal,
coffee, petite fours, champagne, wine, cognac and of course, cigars.

The last event took place on Thursday October 20th and was a great evening.
Simon gave a speech all about the making of a cuban cigar and as a special
treat, Rodolpho one of the world's greatest rollers gave us a demonstration.
Rodolpho is very important, he even rolled cigars for Churchill!

During the evening we tasted three cigars, Bolivar, Partagas and a Cohiba. On
top of that, we were each given a freshly rolled cigar to take home and enjoy.

This is the second time I have attended such an event and cannot wait until the
next time. My wife accompanied me and she was even given a specially rolled up
'thin' cigar to taste, which she enjoyed. Now I am under less pressure to give
up and she freely admitted to understanding why I enjoy it.

If you want more information on these events, either contact Simon or Eva who
I'm sure will only be too pleased to assist.

Ms. Eva Barkasz
Club Manager
11B West Halkin Street
Tel: 0171 235-9625 or Fax: 0171 245 6354

Mr Simon Chase
Sales Director
Hunters & Frankau
Unit 16
Hurlingham Business Centre
Sullivan Road
Tel: 0171 736 8533 Fax: 0171 371 0374 

Happy Smoking!

[ Thanks! I've put the contact for Mosimann's in the Guide. -S. ]

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From: "M. Arndt" <????????????????>
Subject: Resource guide correction


yet another correction for the Resource Guide:

for Connoissuer Pipe Shop, Ltd
    1285 Avenue of teh Americas
    take out the line: 51 W. 46th St.
    (he doesn't have two addreses)

    everything else is correct according to the owner, who
    was very helpful, by the way

    He told me that he has been making his own pipes and blending
    tobaccos for about thirty years.

Yr obedient svt

M. Arndt

[ Done! I have the honour to be, etc., -S. ]

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From: Patrick Benard <??????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #163 - October 21, 1994

Thank-you Kevin for supplying the information on Montreal's Blatter and
Blatter, I had every intention of doing the same but finding the time
has been a bit of a problem.  I agree that their prices and selection of
quality pipes is practically unparalled and I am particularly fond of
their own selection of pipes.  Seconds are available for $25-35, while a
very fine pipe can be had for $60CND.  Monsieur Blatter took me through
the initiation of my first pipe when I was 17 (ten years ago) and a little
publicity is the least I can do for someone who introduced me to the
"sensuous pastime".

Patrick Benard
Individual Inc.

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: "Edifying Thoughts of a Tobacco Smoker" 

Just found this, and thought that people here might find it as amusing
as I did. I'm typing this in shamelessly from the program for the
Santa Fe Pro Musica chamber orchestra and ensemble, so anyone who lives
anywhere near Santa Fe, NM should go to a concert to get their own
copy. Besides, the music is *fabulous*. All following this paragraph
is from the article. The translator is not credited.

"A poem from the second _Little Clavier Book for Anna Magdalena Bach_
of which [J. S.] Bach is believed to be the author, offers an amusing insight
into this most beloved genius."

Whene'r I take my pipe and stuff it
And smoke to pass the time away
My thoughts, as I sit there and puff it,
Dwell on a picture sad and gray:
It teaches me that very like
Am I myself unto my pipe.

Like me, this pipe so fragrant burning
Is made of naught but earth and clay;
To earth I too shall be returning.
It falls and, ere I'd think to say,
It breaks in two before my eyes;
In store for me a like fate lies.

No stain the pipe's hue yet doth darken;
It remains white. Thus do I know
That when to death's call I must harken
My body, too, all pale will grow.
To black beneath the sod 'twill turn,
Likewise the pipe, if oft it burn.

Or whan the pipe is fairly glowing,
Behold then, instantaneously,
The smoke off into thin air going,
Till naught but ash is left to see.
Man's fame likewise away will burn
And unto dust his body turn.

How oft it happens when one's smoking:
The stopper's missing from its shelf,
And one goes with one's finger poking
Into the bowl and burns oneself.
If in the pipe such pain doth dwell,
How host must be the pains of Hell.

Thus o'er my pipe, in contemplation
Of such things, I can constantly
Indulge in fruitful meditation,
And so, puffing contentedly,
On land, on sea, at home, abroad,
I smoke my pipe and worship God.

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From: ????????????????????????? (Jeffrey Bailey)
Subject: cigars

I am interested in your group of cigar connesiours.  The finest I have 
yet had a chance to aquire and smoke are Davidoff Gran Cru #3.  This is 
primarily due to the fact that I am underage, however, I know there are 
better to be had, how would you recomend my aquiring these?  If you have 
any suggestions or comments, I would appreciate your letting me know. 

[ It's illegal to _sell_ tobacco to a minor, but not, to my knowledge,
illegal to _give_ a 17-year-old a fine cigar. :-) Correct me if I'm
wrong... -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????????????? (Franz Peter Seiler)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #163 - October 21, 1994

Hello pipe smokers of Austria!

If you live in Vienna or surrounding and you are interested in meeting
internet accessible pipe smokers: send me a short message and I can try
to arrange a meeting.

I work at the Vienna University of Technology (Technische Universitaet)
and would like to have contact with pipe smokers here.

I wait for your message.

Franz Peter

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: pipes 

I'm new to Internet, but have been enjoying pipes for some time.  Was glad
to see that the net is used by others beside the techno crowd.  Would
welcome anything related to pipes/tobacco.  Have been a member of the
Universal Coterie of Pipe Smokers for several years; assume this is sort
of a high-tech version of the same.  Looking forward to hearing from the
pipe fraternity!  

[ Hey, some of us are the techno crowd, too! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: PIPE INFO

Steve, propt. of the Arcade Smoke shop here in Nashville asked me to see
if I could get the following info thru the newsgroup:
        A: Markings on transitional & pretransitional Barlings.
        B: Old markings on Petersens prior to 1970
        C: locate Alfred Dunhill book "All About Smoke."
Anyone that can answer these, or can point to an available source for
the answer, please E-Mail me at ????????????????????????

Appreciate the help.

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From: "Chris Reinhart (303)556-3684" <????????????????????????????????????>
Subject: Questions for the Group

	I hope your trip out of the country was enjoyable (not all
business, I hope!).  Welcome back.
	I have a question.  Working in a college library you'd think
that I could find an answer but so far I've not come up with anything
really satisfactory.  The question is:  Why is a pipe sometimes 
referred to as a "hod"? (and it seems that I only hear older - 
60+ men refer to it as such).  My dad, who was a pipe smoker for
many years and who is 74 years old always referred to his pipe
(somewhat deprecatingly, I thought) as "his old hod".  I've checked
the dictionary (even the OED) and the first definition says that a
hod is a trough used to carry building materials - such as bricks - 
on the shoulder.  The second definition says that a hod is a coal
scuttle.  (My dad doesn't know where he first picked up the term).
I suppose that, stretching your imagination somewhat, you could 
describe a pipe as carrying tobacco and a coal scuttle does 
(sometimes) carry burning coals as a pipe does "carry" burning
tobacco.  But, to my mind, that stretches it a bit. (BTW, there
are no literary allusions quoted in the OED describing a tobacco
pipe as a "hod").  Any thoughts?  I'm just curious.
	Another somewhat trivial concern I have is this.  If I'm 
smoking my pipe anywhere other than when I'm sitting in my armchair
I'm carry a pack of (usually) Dill's brand pipe cleaners in my back
pocket.  The pipe cleaners inevitably get squashed and bent whenever
I bend over or sit.  They still perform okay but it's irritating (to
me, anyway)to have to straighten them out in order to use them.  I've
considered buying a cigar case and putting the cleaners in that since
they are sturdier and wouldn't bend but then putting it in my back
pocket would probably break the case.  I seldom wear a suit coat so
the possibility of putting pipe cleaners in a vest pocket is ruled 
out.  Again, any thoughts?
	Last of all, I'd like to commend everyone on the civilized 
tone of this group.  I really enjoy the discussions.  Pipe smokers
are great people!
	Well, enough.  Talk at ya later.

[ Maybe keep the cleaners with the pipe? Odds are the pipe is already
in a place where it won't get squished. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Thanks and a question

I would like to thank all the individuals that have shown such an interest in
a fellow pipe smoker. Your help has been wonderful!

I was wondering if there are any among us, other than myself, who have to
deal with well-meaning but sorely mistaken families and churches that
strictly dissaprove of our wonderful pleasure. I am plagued with having the
basic doctrinal beliefs of a Baptist, but not the absurd list of do's and
don'ts rules. After all, you'll never find much of the rules list in the
source for the doctrines. Just curious. If you're out there, send me a note.
I'd like to know how other people have dealt with this problem.

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From: "Ben Nabors (??????????????????????????)" <??????????????????????????>
Subject:      Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request

     I want to express my elation for becoming a part of your readership.

     I have been a smoker of the briar for about four years.  I presently
am a part-time associate at a local tobacco shop, The Briary.  My pipes of
choice are Comoy, Charatan, Ascorti, Camminetto, Peterson, Cavicchi, and
even American (a one-man company out of Pa.).  My favorite blends of tobacco
are diverse but, I feel, are tasteful:  P.S.'s Champagne blend, Mac Baren's
Scottish Mixture, and most natural non-aromatic cavendishes.  Tin's, flakes,
and hand-rubbed selections are fair game when I'm about the smoke shop.
     I also enjoy an occasional cigar.  A Fonseca, a Zino, or a Partagas
are always a perfect meal by themselves with a cup of Community Coffee from
     I am a student and teacher of Literature and English.  I write a bit.
I enjoy discourse.  That is one reason I am rather excited about the prospect
of communicating with you folks.
     I am interested in some enjoyable discourse between people who are taking
part in the dying artform of pipe smoking.  I am always in the market for
collecting pipes, gaining knowledge about different tobacco blends, and just
chatting in general.

Thanks again,

P.S.  I am interested in finding someone who orders or knows how to order
Ashton tobacco blends.  We do not have a distributor who carries Ashton
pipe blends in this area.  We carry the pipes and cigars but not the tobacco.
I am willing to pay for shipping and all of that.  I am particularly interested
in the blends numbered 4 and 5.

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From: "A.W. Donovan-Shead" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Smoke Signal #5

Smoke Signal #5
October 24, 1994

Pipes Digest #163 contained a suggestion for an April-Fools edition
of the digest composed entirely of flame-mail on the understanding
that we say not another word upon them. An annual event would meet
with my approval, composed of the choicest examples with statistics
showing the total number of flames received during the preceding
year. A statistic such as this would give an approximate indication
of the mood of the Nanny Corps who presumes to tell us how to
conduct our lives, at least the section of them that have access to
Internet. Approval of pipe and cigar smoking amongst the population
as a whole is inversely proportional to the number flames received.

What is the role of the critic? It is easy to ridicule, something
to which critics, as a class, are accustomed. It is my belief that
the role of the critic is to steer others of like mind towards the
better things in life, but what is meat to one may be poison to
another, therefore what is recommended by the critic is unlikely to
agree with everyone s taste, so it is gratifying to know that one
person at least found Cope's Escudo worth their while. I had this
mental picture of a gentleman utterly relaxed in his favourite
armchair with his pipe and glass of Napoleon Brandy: although the
addition of tasselled-cap, smoking-jacket of scarlet velvet, with
frog-closures of black silken rope, and quilted lapels of black
satin is an unwarranted flight of fancy.

My nephew-in-law is one of those goateed, university chappies doing
a double major in Philosophy and Psychology at the University of
Minnesota. Recently, he gave up smoking Nat Sherman's cigarettes in
favour of a pipe. To him I sent my copy of Carl "Weber s Guide to
Pipes and Pipe Smoking." Last week I was visiting Ted's Pipe Shop
and noticed that they still had a small pile of these books for
sale, there were about a half-dozen left after I replaced my copy.
If this book is available no longer anyone interested in buying a
copy might like to try speaking to Beth Kanaley, Ted's widow, by
telephone and see if she will do business by mail. Contact Beth at:

               Ted's Pipe Shops, Ltd.,
               2002 Utica Square,
               Tulsa, Oklahoma 74114.
               Tel: (918) 742-4996.

Cancer of the mouth was a concern in #163, and so it should be. Too
much of something is usually bad for the body. Last weekend, a
friend of mine drove into town to continue our epistolary
conversation, over afternoon tea in the garden. He spoke of an
fellow he once knew who was a wonderful conversationalist, a
Professor of History I believe who was won't to sit and talk and
punctuate his conversation with puffs on his pipe, which he was
never able to keep lit for very long. In fact he spent much time
relighting with matches or lighter. He died of cancer of the mouth;
seems he was always smoking and always relighting. Here there is a
moral: moderation, a clean pipe, few relights, and tobacco that
doesn't irritate. Too much alcohol and your liver will go to hell.
Too much fatty food and it's time for cardiac arrest. Always we
must balance our diet and our life.

Now let's turn to Alfred Dunhill's "The Pipe Book." He traces
smoking from earliest times and its spread throughout the world. He
is most interested in the variety of pipes constructed by different
peoples, giving the briar short shrift of six pages in the final
chapter. It is a book of most interest to the collector of pipes or
the scholar, less so to the practical smoker, but worth borrowing
from the library to browse. My feeling is that this book would give
a scholar a good beginning, but is of passing interest to the
devotee of the briar. However, it contains several interesting
descriptions of smoking technique.

Eskimo pipes are wrought in ivory of two halves, so that a smoke
channel can be cut by the craftsmen or women, they are lashed
together with strips of hide. Sometimes the stem is bored after
cutting a series of oblong panels from the bottom of the pipe. A
pipe such as this is cleaned by removing the panels and scraping
out the tar and oily refuse, which is eaten by the Eskimo. These
people have constitutions of iron. When they chew tobacco they
swallow instead of spitting. Within the last twenty years or so, I
recall reading a report about an Eskimo whose canoe capsized
pitching him into artic waters. This fellow survived a swim of
thirty minutes before being rescued, normally, a person would die
from hypothermia within five.

Peter the Great sent his envoy Ysbrants Ides across Siberia to the
Emperor of China. Ides reported the Ostiak smokers: "To smoak
tobacco, to which all, both men and women are very much addicted,
instead of pipes, they use a stone kettle, in which they stick a
pipe made for that purpose, and at two or three drawings, after
they have taken some water in their mouths, can suck out the whole
pipe; and they swallow the smoak, after which they fall down and
lie insensible like dead men, with distorted eyes, both hands and
feet trembling for about half and hour. They foam at the mouth, so
that they fall into a sort of epilepsy, and we could not observe
where the smoak vented itself, and in this way several of them are
lost. For as they are on the water travelling, or sitting by the
fire, some of these violent smoakers fall into the water and are
drowned, or into the fire and are burned, but some after they have
sucked the smoak, let it out at their throats again, and these are
in better condition than the others."

While speaking of meerschaum pipes Dunhill reports that "it has
been said that a meeschaum cannot be coloured to perfection if it
is ever allowed to cool, and since there are moments, and even
hours, when the most inveterate pipe-lover must lay his pipe aside,
such perfection seems impossible to obtain. An enthusiast of the
fifties [1850s], however, hit upon the ingenious plan of arranging
through his tobacconist for a detachment of lifeguardsmen to smoke
his pipe in an endless chain so that it was always warm. Swaddled
carefully in soft flannel, and filled always with the best tobacco
at its owner's expense, the pipe passed from mouth to mouth for a
space of seven months. When it was unwrapped, it was coloured a
rich deep brown, pronounced perfect by connoisseurs of the art of
pipe-colouring. But the aesthetic pleasure of the owner in his
unique possession was somewhat dulled when the tobacconist
presented him with a bill for over one hundred pounds, which had
disappeared in smoke!" In those days one hundred pounds Sterling
was equivalent to six or seven hundred Dollars, a comfortable
annual income. And those lifeguardsmen, they are not the types that
sit on a scaffold at the beach watching for sharks, they are the
soldiers trained to guard the Royal Presence

In my next puff I will tell you about some treasure trove and a
couple of old brochures that I found, one advertising Brigham
pipes, and one extolling the virtues of the Best British Briar.


[ As always, a fascinating letter, Andrew! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????????
Subject: For the Digest

To fellow pipe smokers,

     I recently found a wonderful book called _The Importance of Living_ by
Lin Yutang.  It is a delightful blend of Chinese and Western philosophy,
composed of many essays covering everything from the sense of humor to the
importance of learning to lie in bed to the joys of reading.  It also has a
small discussion on smoking.  The author is primarily a cigarette smoker, but
this shortcoming is made up for with nice comments about the pipe smoker.
Allow me to quote the appropriate passages:

            "The world today is divided into smokers and non-
          smokers.  It is true that the smokers cause some
          nuisance to the non-smokers, but this nuisance is
          physical, while the nuisance that the non-smokers
          cause the smokers is spiritual. . . .  It is sometimes
          assumed that the non-smokers are morally superior, and
          that they have something to be proud of, not realizing
          that they have missed one of the greatest pleasures of
          mankind.  I am willing to allow that smoking is a
          moral weakness, but on the other hand, we must be wary
          of the man without weaknesses.
            "The man with a pipe in his mouth is the man after
          my own heart.  He is more genial, more sociable, has
          more intimate indiscretions to reveal, and sometimes
          he is quite brilliant in conversation. . . I agree
          entirely with Thackeray, who wrote: 'The pipe draws
          wisdom from the lips of the philosopher, and shuts up
          the mouths of the foolish; it generates a style of
          conversation contemplative, thoughtful, benevolent,
          and unaffected.'
            "A smoker may have dirtier finger-nails, but that is
          no matter when his heart is warm. . . And most
          important of all, a man with a pipe in his mouth is
          always happy, and after all, happiness is the greatest
          of all moral virtues." (pp. 231-232)

The essay contains many more similar observational gems, and I highly
recommend that you all try to locate this book.  For that purpose, as well as
my devotion to academic integrity, I offer the full citation:

     Lin Yutang, _The Importance of Living_.  New York: John Day, 1937.

I am certain that most old public libraries or universities would have this
book.  I hope you enjoy it as much as I have.
        Before I leave, allow me to pose a topic for potential
discussion. I would like to hear various reactions to the following
Dunhill tobaccos available in tins:
                Standard Mixuture Medium
                Mixture 965
                Early Morning Pipe

Anxiously waiting comments,
Jay R. Dew

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From: ???????????? (Gary G Bliesener)
Subject: New Member Bio

  Please allow me to introduce myself.  My name is Gary Bliesener, I just
turned 40, and I am a contracting system administrator/system integrator/
graphics programmer in the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC.  I
live in the small town of Havre de Grace, MD. [For those of you without an
atlas handy it is about halfway between Baltimore, MD and Wilmington, DE,
right where the Susquehanna River enters the Chesapeake Bay.]  Yes, my commute
is 85 miles one way [about 136 km for our metric friends].  Comments in
previous Pipe Digests about the relative simplicity of smoking a pipe while
driving were eye opening.  Thanks to the Gentle Members of this group I now
pack properly and relight much, much less frequently.  This has vastly
improved my survival odds behind the wheel as I negotiate two major
metropolitan areas full of dangerous maniacs who really ought to try to relax
with a pipe :).
  I purchased a Dr. Grabow in 1978 and two English briars in 1979 from a pipe
shop that is no longer in existence :(.  From the FAQ I deduce that one is
simply a conventional straight pipe while the other (my favorite) appears to
be a Prince style pipe.  Unfortunately, being untutored, I managed to make
myself quite ill with the straight pipe on the drive home.  Hence the pipes
went into the back of a drawer, to remain forgotten for many years.  I spent
the intervening years experimenting in the Realm of the Cigar.  West
Virginia's Marsh & Wheeling remain a favorite.  A few months ago, while
browsing the cigar selection in a Pennsylvania pharmacy [yes, I'm a driving
fool - roughly 5000 miles/8000 km a month] I bought some Vanilla Cavendish on
a whim.  Yum!  Cigars?  What cigars?
  Last month I volunteered to drive my mother-in-law to central Kentucky so
that she might visit her oldest daughter for two weeks.  Yes, it was 1400
miles round trip [2240 km].  Knowing, courtesy of Funk & Wagnalls, that
Kentucky was the number two tobacco producer in the US, I was determined to
find some Kentucky pipe tobacco to take home.  My search was fruitless until
the last night of our visit.  While stocking up on caffeine for the drive back
I found a pouch of Granger's - the pointer to fine tobacco [insert nice
picture of pointing dog here] in the local Win-Dixie .  Returning home, I
rushed to try out my find.  The initial aroma upon opening the pouch was
repellent, so I only tried half a bowl.  I found this to be a nice smooth
smoke - no bite at all.  You can imagine this novice pipist's surprise when I
found tins of Granger's in my local grocery while stockpiling caffeine for the
return trip to bring my mother-in-law home.
  Having become a devoted reader of Pipe Digest [I read all the back issues in
three days via the WWW - thanks Steve] I resolved to expand my horizons [and
take advantage of my long commute].  Stopping at Laurel Mall [US Route 1,
Laurel, MD] I discovered a Tinder Box.  However I was disappointed in their
very limited selection [no Bengal Slices, very few pipes].  However, I was
rewarded by stopping at Faders in Eastpoint Mall just east of Baltimore.  For
visitors to the Baltimore area Eastpoint Mall is easily reached via the
Eastern Avenue exits from either I-95 or I-695.  Their phone number is (401)
282-6622.  A delightful shop, complete with a sizable walk-in humidor for
cigars and a helpful staff.  They have a nice selection of tobaccos and
hundreds of pipes.  The pipe selection includes very small bowled pipes that I
am considering for smoke breaks at work [a strict non-smoking environment, I
really can't take an hour outside to savor a full bowl].  They have a wide
selection of handsome briars [some of whose names I recognized from the
Digest] and maybe twenty different kinds of meerschaums.  They were out of
Bengal Slices, but had Bengal Mixture.  Yum, yum!  I also got some Balkan
Sobranie 789, which I found interesting, almost nutty tasting.  My wife likes
the smell of everything else I smoke, but drew the line at the Balkan
Sobranie, so I suppose that this will become my Outdoor/Driving Smoke.  I will
have to bring her here so that I might drop some hints about Particularly
Appreciated Christmas Presents ;).
  Ah well, enough for now, and my apologies for all the driving talk in a pipe

				Smoky Regards,
				Gary Bliesener

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Pipe News Group

[ Personal message deleted. -S. ]

	News from the Boston Area

	On October 19, 1994 the Sherlock Holmes Pipe Club held its October
meeting.  We had a special presentation by Randy Masters, a non member but a
serious collector of pipes.  He brought with him his collection of Butera
pipes, as well as some Butera pipes sent up from Texas for the presentation by
the maker, Mike Butera.

	Randy told us that he had started smoking a pipe at an early age, as
so many of us have.  He had collected Dunhills, Charatans, and other fine
collectibles. One day he came across and bought a pipe made by Mike Butera,
probably buying it from Barry Levin.  He said he loaded the pipe, smoked a
bowlful and did not get a wet smoke.  He refilled a smoked a second with the
same result.  It was at the end of the third bowl that he began to hear a
gurgle from the bottom of the bowl.  With that, he decided to look into the
maker of this wonderful pipe and learn more.

	Mike Butera, who lives in Texas, was a pipe collector and cigar
fancier in the early 1980's.  He desired to learn more about pipes and how
they were made to enjoy his hobby.  Relatives brought him back fine pipes from
Italy and he learned about the techniques of turning briar into fine pipes.
Not satisfied with what he found in the market, and driven by the same demons
which allowed him to be a success in his profession, Mr. Butera bought several
hundred old eubuchons, some hand tools, and set about creating a new method of
curing briar and new techniques of carving.  He produced three hundred pipes
over the next couple of years in his basement, and through them away when he
finished and was satisfied he now knew how to make good pipes.

	Armed with the techniques he started selling his pipes and hooked up
with Barry Levin to distribute his pipes nationally.  Production is limited to
about 100 pipes a year.  Like all pipe makers he has a line which starts with
carved or sandblasted pipes, progresses through various grades of finishes and
grain quality to his ultimate pipes, straight grains selling for $500-750
each.  Randy has the largest collection of his pipes in the country, having
gotten rid of his Dunhills and others to concentrate on Buteras.  All of them
are fine examples of the art of carving, and to see his collection of 30+
Buteras spread out on a table is enough to make any serious pipe smoker
envious of the collection.  Randy says he calls Mr. Butera about every two
weeks to discuss what is being made so he can have first crack at new
offering, that he does not buy the best Mr. Butera makes, and that he has
never met Mr. Butera face to face.

	Randy explained the system Mr. Butera uses to mark his pipes.  It
includes a code for the year the pipe was made (based on the calendar and the
number of years Mr. Butera has been making pipes), a system for grading the
grain from one to ten (ten being the best) and other marks.  Like all pipe
makers, Mr. Butera changes the system from year to year, so one needs a road
map to follow the markings, creating another level of complexity in the hunt
to understand his work.

	If you want to find his pipes you will have to work hard.  Besides
making under 100 pipes a year, Mr. Butera sells a line of pipe tobaccos and
cigars.  He makes retailers sell his tobacco and cigars to get his pipes.  At
such a low production rate there can be only a few shops stocking the pipes.
Many must disappear into the hands of people like Mr. Masters before they even
get to the retail shops.  Oh well, we can always hope to find one in a yard
sale for three bucks.

	Anyone else out there know more about Mr. Butera, or other local
pipemakers we should be on the lookout for so that we can acquire the superior
and unusual?

	Smoke in peace.

	Steve Wyman
	Concord Massachusetts

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From: Peter Kukla <??????????????????????>
Subject: NPR essay on Cigar Smoking (Pipes Digest)

Hello all,

	Did anybody happen to catch Daniel Pinkwater's essay about Cigar 
smoking on National Public Radio this past week?  It was, quite possibly, 
the very first time I've ever heard the media discuss smoking as a 
cultural phenomenon, rather than as some evil that must be wiped out.  
(What really caught my attention was the old joke that he opened the 
essay with - "Hey, do you like music?  Here's a whole band." (at which 
point the smoker gives you the band which came around the cigar.)

	I managed to tape it.  Should there be enough interest (and no 
threats of lawsuits :), I'll transcribe it for a future digest.

	Since I'm writing anyway, I'll go ahead and give you my short 
bio, as I'm a first-time poster to this group.

	I'm 25, and living in Columbus Ohio.  I'm an infrequent pipe smoker 
(once every week or so, as the whim hits me.)  I haven't really been 
smoking long enough to have gotten any particular favorite as far as 
tobaccos go.  Can anyone recomend a mild tobacco mix for a new smoker?  
I'd be grateful for some input.

	Well, that'll do for now, I think.  Until later...

 Peter Kukla   -   (Lizard ho!)   -   ??????????????????????  
 /\_/\  |   "Now, when I read constantly about the way in which library
( o.o ) |   funds are being cut and cut, I can only think that American
 >   <  |   society has found one more way to destroy itself."
 -------|			 	Isaac Asimov

[ Peter, I'd _love_ to have a transcript for the Digest. I've stopped
listening (and donating) to NPR, because of their continuous wearisome
smoker-bashing. But Daniel Pinkwater has always impressed me as a
mensch; enjoyed his piece on weight discrimination tremendously. -S. ]

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From: "Thomas A. Hendricks" <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Thank you!!!

Thanks to Steve Masticola for providing what I think is the *best* thing to
ever hit the Internet!  I just wanted to say that I recently had the
privilege of attending the International Association of Pipe Smokers' Clubs
(IAPSC) World Pipe Smoking Contest in Davenport, Iowa.  From the moment I
entered the room in the basement of the Blackhawk Hotel I was introduced to
over thirty people, all of whom had at least one thing in common, our love
for pipes and tobacco.  Paul T. Spaniola himself invited me to sit in on the
IAPSC meeting, where I got to hear about the plans for the next two years'
contests.  The next one, BTW, is going to be in Louisville, Kentucky, in
October, 1995.
    The contest was great (except for the taste of IAPSC Contest Blend :[
which tastes about as good as it sounds)  I came in 28th, with a time of
22:49-- not bad for my first time, I am told.  My many thanks to the Quad
City Briars for being wonderful hosts and having absolutely great prizes (I
won a new Peterson Kilarney and a Cortland Billiard--not bad for 28th
place!)  Thanks to Marcus Dandaneau and Jack Fink for providing me with
"survival tips" for the contest and letting me pile up all my stuff on their
display table.  Thanks to Mike Tobey and Darren Kirkpatrick for selling me
my very first freehand (a Soren--does anyone here know anything about this
brand).  Thanks to Rex Poggenpohl for lots of advice and addresses and a
copy of Richard Carleton Hacker's the Ultimate Pipe Book.  Thanks to Wayne
Shake for inspiring me to get my new driver's license picture taken with my
pipe (I just turned 21 in August and my license expires 11/22)  Thanks to
Paul T. Spaniola for getting me involved in the whole thing.  Finally thanks
to all of you in the Mailgroup for providing a sense of belonging to pipe
smokers everywhere.
     I would especially like to hear from pipe smokers in Central Illinois.
I would also like to hear from anyone who is interested in joining my
newly-formed club, which is an IAPSC member.  You can contact me in the
following ways:
      Mail     Thomas A. Hendricks
               413 Carter Street
               Stanford, IL 61774
      Phone    (309) 379-4491
               (309) 828-7025
      email    ????????????????????????????
                        Hope to hear from anyone out there soon!
                        Your Briar Brother,
                        Thomas A. Hendricks   U/~

[ Good luck on your venture with IAPSC, Thomas, and please keep us
informed! And thanks! -S. ]

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From: JTH <????????????????????>
Subject: Antique Stores

I am sure that most of the newsgroup members will be familiar with the 
concept of browsing second hand and antique stores for interesting pipes 
to add to their collections.  For those of you who are not, try it.

This past weekend I was roaming around Vancouver's downtown area 
with my prime goal being a trip to the local tobacconist (Clarkes R.J. 
Tobacconist at 3 Alexander Street, Vancouver, B.C. 604-687-4136 - Here 
is one for the list if you don't already have it Steve).  I don't know 
why I go there when I don't need tobacco because I always start craving 
another pipe to add to my collection.  This time I had my SO with me so 
my visit was restricted to only about fifteen minutes of talking with 
the salesperson about the different pipes at the store.  It never ceases 
to amaze me how quickly she can become disinterested when we are in a 
tobacconist or a tool section whereas she can spend hours looking at and 
trying on clothes she has no intention of buying.  Anyways, I digress.

After being dragged out of the tobacconists, I remembered a friend's 
description of a nearby antique store that occasionally had second hand 
pipes.  Being necessarily a sometimes sneaky person, I set about to 
interest my girlfriend in looking for that "full length mirror" she had 
wanted for so long.  Of course a good place to look for that and other 
bits of furniture for the apartment is an antique store, which just 
happens to be right down the street.

We walked to the store and jackpot - no mirror but someone had brought in
a set of pipes (about 15) just the day before.  None of the pipes were in
what could be described as "excellent condition".  It was obvious that
whoever had owned them had not treated them very well.  After going
through the lot of them, I had found two I was interested in; one
Peterson, and one Brigham, the rest were too dinged up and were no name

I checked the Peterson and Brigham over carefully and found every tiny 
flaw on them that I could and then offered the owner of the store $30 for 
both of them (the price tags were $25 for the Peterson and $15 for the 
Brigham).  When she balked at the offer, I began to point out the flaws 
that I had noted before.  She hesitated, checked her book, and protested 
that she could not sell them that low.  So I pointed out some more flaws 
(most of which were minor like; they were both very dirty, the inside of 
their bowls were scratched because someone had cleaned the ash cake out 
of them improperly, and the stems were faded).  After that, she finally 
said ok.  When it was all done, I got both pipes for $33.

I went home and spent the next couple of hours cleaning them out (they 
were quite filthy - it looked as if the person who owned them rarely 
cleaned them so their innards were caked with resin).  Anyways, after 
about half a bottle of hot alcohol and who knows how many pipe cleaners, 
they were nearly sparkling.  The alcohol I used had faded the stems some 
more (I tried to keep it off the outside of them as much as I could but 
they were almost plugged with resin so they needed too much cleaning to 
not  spill some on them) so I tried rubbing them lightly with olive oil.  
It was the only thing that I could think of at the time and it actually 
seems to have worked quite well.  The stems are now better than when I 
first saw the pipes and almost as good as the stems on my pipes which I 
had purchased new.

I let the two "new" pipes sit over night so the alcohol would have lots of
time to evaporate and tried the Peterson this morning as I was walking to
class.  My first impression of the old pipe is:  It leaves my other
Brigham (my previous "favorite pipe") way behind.  Maybe that is just
because it is new or something like that but it was certainly an enjoyable
first smoke. 

To end it all off.  I purchased what I suspect would have cost at least
$150 new for $30 and a little "elbow grease".  My day was made.  I would
suggest that anyone who is interested in expanding their collection who
doesn't look around in antique stores already, get out there and do so. 
It is well worth the effort. 

Jason Hayes

[ Great acquisition, Jason! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????? (Gary Kahne)
Subject: Rattrays Tobacco

I was wondering if anyone who reads The Digest might know of a shop that
has and will mail-order (to Canada) Rattray's Red Rapperee, 'Targe, or 
Accountant's Blend, in bulk. I am looking for a source in the USA. Please
reply to: ?????????????????????????         Thanks     Gary Kahne

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[ From rec.antiques. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????????????? (gabrielle giroux)
Subject: Intro Bio

Greetings and Salutations to All.
        I'm Gabrielle and I don't think I can convey to you how happy I am
to have found all of you.  From the brief time I've been a part of your
group I feel it is going to be a long and fruitful relationship.  I'm a
sophomore at Ohio State University, recently married and extremely
fascinated by pies and pipe smokers alike.
        My brief smoking history:
        Right before our wedding my fiance stumbled across pipe smoking,
lit up in front of me and I thought "What am I getting myself into?".  Next
thing I know I'm puffing away with the rest of you.
        When my husband first began his pipe smoking adventure he (out of
seeming guilt about the smell) kept buying me five dollar a box cigarettes.
It was a ice change from the bargain brands I had smoked  in high school
before I quit but they just didn't satisfy me.  Eventually after much
wasted money, many nearly full packs hitting the trash can, and stealing
multitudes of puffs from my husbands' pipes we finally got the point.
        My first pipe was a small red bent apple second by 'who knows?' to
try the water (or tobacco rather).   I was hooked immediately and currently
I am enjoying a Savinelli bent Bulldog with an alligator finish with no
thoughts of quitting.  As for tobacco I'm trying Sherlock and Anniversary,
a couple of Tinder Box blends.  Plus Five Wizards and an English blend from
Barclay Pipe and Tobacco that I can't remember the name of.  I am willing
and ready to explore any suggestions any of you might have.  Pipe or
tobacco wise.  Also if any of you hear of any pipe 'get togethers' in or
around Ohio please let me know.  Being new I would find it informative and
        The best part of pipe smoking is that my husband thinks my smoking
is wonderful, supports me,  and is quite willing to share each new
experience together.  It's going to make Christmas and Birthdays really
easy from now on.
        Thank you for allowing me to ramble a bit and introduce myself.
                                        Smokingly yours,

[ Gabrielle, your letter made my day. I only wish my sweetie liked a
pipe too. Welcome! -S. ]

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[ From alt.smokers.cigars. -S. ]

From: ?????????????? (Eric Norber)
Date: 2 Nov 1994 01:21:00 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
Subject: Re: WWW Cigar Page

I think that I may undertake the task of a cigar WWW Home Page.  It'll
take me several weeks to complete, but I think I may do it.  I'd sure like
your suggestions, etc.

  -  - Eric Norber

In article
<?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????>, "Joseph
M. Johnston" <?????????????????????????????> wrote:

=> Suggestions OF material that would be good on a Cigar Home Page (I am 
=> responding to an earlier post which was a response to mine):
=>      1.  Humidor FAQ
=>      2.  Cigar ratings either from CA or from members.
=>      3.  Lists of cigar friendly restaurants in various cities.
=>      4.  Archive files from this newsgroup and compuserv (maybe)
=>      5.  Other FAQs.
=>      6.  A file on cigar types etc.
=>      7.  GIF/text collection of cigar smokers (like a Dewars profile).
=>      8.  Maybe the big mail order guys would post price lsits (Holt JR, etc).
=>      9.  Plans for building humidors.
=>     10.  How To's on various things.
=>     11.  Cigar Smoke events calendar.
=>     12.  Cigar types with descriptions and gifs????
=>     13.  duh......I dunno....anybody else have any ideas?????  (only been 
=> smokin' 'em for a month)
=> I didn't say I had all of this stuff, but perhaps if everybody pitched in 
=> we could get something going!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
=>  =====================================================================
=>  Joseph M. Johnston Sr. |     INTERNET:  ?????????????????????????????       
=>                         |     RELAYNET:  DSC                         
=>  -----------------------|     FIDONET:   1/273/203
=>      INTERNET to FIDONET:     ?????????????????????????????????????
=>  =====================================================================   

-------------<Golan Center on Defense & Policy Studies>--------------
Write me at:   | Middle East Policy Think-Tank with |    Founder:
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71154,1765 CI$ | tatives from San'a to Jerusalem    | Davidson Club

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From: "Thomas A. Hendricks" <????????????????????????????>
Subject: Cigar Society at Florida State University

I recently had the chance to talk to Charlie Barley at Florida State
University and he has moved since being featured in the Summer '94 issue of
Cigar Aficionado.  His new number is (904) 222-7195.  Also, if any of you
are starting a cigar and/or pipe club at your college or university, we
would love to hear from you!
       Thomas Allen Hendricks
       (309) 379-4491 or (309) 828-7025

[ Please keep us informed, Thomas! There's a University of
Pennsylvania Cigar Club; perhaps Bill Magill would drop you a
note. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #163 - October 21, 1994 

Open question on Humidor Care...

My friend has a beautiful humidor from Elli Bleu (sp) and the hydration tubes 
leaked, leaving a dark stain on the cedar lining.  Is the stain permanent?
Will it fade?  Can it be removed?

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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: Pipe exploration report no 2

I'd taken the standard route into Pipeville: straight down Amphora St in a
overheated Czech Briarmobile. Got the hang of cruising slowly with only
minimal stops for relighting. Time, I thought, to upgrade. I had my eye on
a BC Commander. Heavy, even masculine, but still French. Only NZ$45. "It's
a very good pipe", the tobacconist said nervously. (Next on the purchase
list: a Dr John English briar.)

Looked about the shelves. In my two-bit home town, you can only get about a
dozen different kinds of tobacco in 50g pouches... but wait - on the top
shelves - tins of Dunhill! Ultra-light, Aromatic, and Dark. "Hmmm", thinks
I, "Aromatic might be the one to follow from Amphora". It smells like
Grandma's Christmas fruitcake. Will try it out tonight.

ObTobak: I keep seeing mentions of various brands of tobacco. Now owing to
punishing sales tax here (NZ), pipe tobacco is too expensive to experiment
with on a budget. Could we compile reviews of common pipe tobacco brands,
aiming at something like Laszlo's amazing cigarette survey (see the
alt.smoker's FAQ)? It would make those first forays into different tobaccos
just that little bit more secure.

ObPipe: International price comparisons are very interesting. Seems that
pipes are rather cheaper here than in the US, while tobacco is
mega-expensive. Anyone got any thoughts on where globe trotters should buy
their paraphernalia ("Smoker's requisites" is the old phrase, isn't it?)?
I'm not going anywhere soon, but I could always give a travelling friend
some money.

Wishing you contented smoking,

Stephen Judd               "Wie ihr's immer schiebt, und wie ihr's immer dreht
?????????????????????       Erst kommt das Fressen, und dann kommt der

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From: ?????????????????????? (Clarence Kuykendall Jr.)
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request

Thanks for the subscription.  I dont really smoke a pipe very often, I 
am an avid cigar smoker.  I have recently bought a pipe and a couple of 
blends, however, I dont know any pipe smokers and I have had trouble 
enjoying it because of problems with keeping the tobacco burning.  As I 
said, I do enjoy cigars.  Right now my favorite is the Arturo Fuente 
Hemingway series.  I also enjoy Partagas and Macanudo.  I had my first 
cuban (a Cohiba) last week, while visiting Mexico.  I loved it.  I look 
forward to receiving your publication each week.  It is truly a joy to 
find others who enjoy the pleasure of a fine smoke.  Hope you can help 
me learn to enjoy a pipe as much as I enjoy cigars.  Talk to you later.


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[ From alt.smokers.cigars. -S. ]

From: ??????????????????????? (Ron Nadel)
Subject: Cigar smokers in Boulder/Denver area

Hello out there.  I'm looking for cigar smokers (men and women) in the 
Denver/Boulder area who might like to correspond and share a smoke sometimes.  

Perhaps some of you might have heard about the Boulder Wine Merchant 
Cigar/Port dinner this NOV. 9.  The dinner is held at one of Colorado's finest 
restaurants - Greenbriar Inn - and after dinner, port and cigars.  I'll really 
tantalize you with the menu:

Roast venison sirloin with port & fig sauce
grilled duck sausage
roasted red pepper and w/ fennel and wild rice pancakes
This will be followed by a '70 Fonseca Vintage Port and cigars!

Anyway, if you're in the Boulder/Denver area, let me hear from you!


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From: ????????????????
Subject: about me

	Fellow Pipesters,

	As a new member of this group, I hoped to share my thoughts on
pipe smoking and related matters. My first issue of Pipes Digest (163)
was made very enjoyable by finding so many who share my love of pipes
and tobacco and their abilities to relate this through mail on the
'net. It was wonderful reading on one of my favored subjects. Thanks
to all who wrote in from a new reader.
	Now, to the point.
	I am, from what I read, a fairly young pipe smoker. I will
turn 27 in Jan.  '95 and have been smoking pipes for about 18 mos. My
grandfather was also a pipe smoker, so I suppose that had something to
do with my interest. Man, if I could only find his pipes! :^)
	After reading (and re-reading) Weber's Guide to Pipes and Pipe
Smoking, I bought a Comoy's briar for $40 as my first pipe. I didn't
want to start with a less expensive pipe, as Weber and everyone I
talked to said 'you get what you pay for', especially in pipes. It is
a rather non-descript pipe of plain brown briar, although it now has a
banded shank, which makes it a bit more distinctive than some. The
band, BTW is a necessary feature resulting from an accident I had in
less experienced times while cleaning it. :^) For all the damage it's
suffered at my novice hands, it still smokes nice and cool.
	I have since accquired two more pipes: a Peterson "Killarney"
in a nice bent shape with the standard and unbeatable "Peterson bit"
and a great NM-xrding freehand I received as a birthday present. It
was originally without a stain, and has since colored to a wonderfully
rich deep hue somewhere between that of the natural briar and
tobacco. I was told that this is similar to the process a meerschaum
undergoes with regular smoking.
	I smoke mainly aromatics from the 'private' blends of our
local retailer, "The Pipe and Tobacco Shop." With such an inventive
name [ :^) ] , you might be misled into thinking that they are a
rather generic franchise shop; NOT so! The shop has an individual
flair with an exceptionally friendly staff.  After only two or three
trips my friends and I made, they all began to at least recognize our
faces and associate them with our favorite blends and pipe purchases,
and one guy there remembers our names. They also stock a wide variety
of chess sets, which is another passion of mine. Now, if they would
only carry soccer equipment... :^>.
	The two blends I choose most are 'Deerhunter' which is light and had an
almost fruity aroma and taste, and 'Capitol Spice'  which is best described
as a mild dark Danish with no bite. I hope to hear from others here about
their favorite blends, and would consider making a swap via post.
	Anyway, there it is. I hope this isn't too long-winded (
-fingered ), and of SOME interest to you folks. Obviously, if
Mr. Masticola (Steve) wants to edit for legnth I don't mind.

	Smoke in peace `\U,
	Mike Sims, in Little Rock, Ark.

	P.S. What is the official pipe-smoker's emoticon? Is it `\U?
    	        Also, please, no Clinton jokes! :^)

[ Clinton jokes? Don't get it. And I use "~\U" in the Digest, though
there's no official _anything_ on the Internet. -S. ]

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From: "Thomas A. Hendricks" <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Archives & Stuff

       I, too, seem to be having difficulty finding the Pipes Digest
archives from ftp.  No matter what I use to log in with, I am asked for a
password, which I do not have.  Please help!

       On a lighter note, I am happy to announce a new cigar service which
has just started in Bloomington, IL, called the International Cigar Club.
I have the information on the club as
                         International Cigar Club
                         1701 E. Empire Street
                         Suite 250
                         phone/fax 1-800-729-9717

      Also, I would like to announce my cigar club, which was formed
August 10, 1994
                         Illinois State University Cigar Society (ISUCS)
                         Thomas A. Hendricks
                         413 Carter St
                         Stanford, IL 61774
                         (309) 379-4491

 May your cigars never be plugged...

[ Many thanks! Both are now in the Guide. And I'd appreciate news of
any other cigar or pipe clubs. Re the FTP, just give "anonymous" as
your user ID and your email address as your password. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Smoke, Mosquitos, and a Meteor shower

While in the summer months of paradisiacal[dry sarcasm] Florida the
mosquitos--which have been known to pass as large crows--are irrepressible,
the late fall and winter months are only moderately infested. It is in these
few glorious months which the mosquitos can indeed be kept at bay by your
ever friendly pipe. I can attest to this as I was out just this night walking
and smoking, and finally sitting in the driveway of the house--sounds of
large animals and reptiles drove me away from my nightly walk. While I sat
and smoked and watched the sky--many meteors blazing across the sky--the
hell-fiend mosquitos did not bother me. I finished my pipe, emptied it and
took it and my tobacco inside the house and came back out. Within a minute
the blood-thirsty fiends were all about my head, buzzing and biting and
sucking out my life.

Did I mention that I hate Florida?

On a different note: I recently tried a blend full of latakia. While I liked
the flavor and the aroma of the smoke the tobacco seemed to irritate my mouth
more than other blends I have tried. It did not seem to smoke hotter, indeed
it was quite pleasant. But the next day my mouth felt as if I had been
smoking a very hot pipe. Does this irritation have to do with the strength of
the tobacco as well as the heat of the smoke? Any suggestions?

         ~  ~
      ~   ~    ~
     ~  ~   

[ Disproving the old snappy comeback: "(At a barbecue:) `I'm just
doing this to keep bugs away. Guess it isn't working.'" -S. ]

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		       Today's Snappy Comeback:

(The Appeal to Simple Justice:) "You're the third person to ask me
that. And if I said yes now, it wouldn't be fair to the others." 

				- From "101 Ways to Answer the
				  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
				  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #164 - November 4, 1994
  2. Subject: A (silly) question
  3. Subject: An Entry to the Digest
  4. Subject: Re: B&B
  5. Subject: Miscellaneous...
  6. Subject: 21 Window Salute and other stuff
  7. Subject: Subcription for Pipe and Cigar
  8. Subject: Pipeworks and Wilke
  9. Subject: Thoughts ...
  10. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #163 - October 21, 1994
  11. Subject: Internet Pipes Mailgroup
  12. Subject: look for nice cigar- or smoking-related places
  13. Subject: Magazine Article
  14. Subject: Resource guide correction
  15. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #163 - October 21, 1994
  16. Subject: "Edifying Thoughts of a Tobacco Smoker"
  17. Subject: cigars
  18. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #163 - October 21, 1994
  19. Subject: pipes
  20. Subject: PIPE INFO
  21. Subject: Questions for the Group
  22. Subject: Thanks and a question
  23. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request
  24. Subject: Smoke Signal #5
  25. Subject: For the Digest
  26. Subject: New Member Bio
  27. Subject: Pipe News Group
  28. Subject: NPR essay on Cigar Smoking (Pipes Digest)
  29. Subject: Thank you!!!
  30. Subject: Antique Stores
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