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Subject: Pipes Digest #166 - November 18, 1994

		Pipes Digest #166 - November 18, 1994
		     Circulation this issue: 619

Welcome to new members:

	 Don Shuwarger			(?????????????????????????)
	 Larry Edell			(????????????????????)
	 Matt Green			(????????????????)
	 Stuart Kiang			(?????????????????????)
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We have a lot of club news this week; all kinds of smokers' clubs are
blooming! :-) Check it out! And also a new, great-sounding pipe
shop/bar/restaurant in the Bay Area! And, as we near the Thanksgiving
holiday in the USA, please join us now for a few pre-prandial puffs as
we ponder Pinkwater, plots, Petersons, parks, and please pass the
pumpkin pie...

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             Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
                        Call -- Write -- Vote
                        Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: Peter Kukla <??????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Digest entry - Daniel Pinkwater's NPR essay (long)

Hello again, everyone.

	Well, as promised, here's the Daniel Pinkwater essay which 
aired on NPR recently.  Mr. Pinkwater has my apologies for any 
mistakes I may have made in transcribing the essay.


	Here is the first joke I ever heard:  Hey, sonnye, you like 
music?"   I would deliver the correct response, stiffling giggles.  
"Yes, I like music."  "Vell, here's a band."  Whereupon I would be 
presented with a paper ring, printed in gold and gaudy colors 
bearing the legend `El Producto' or `Garcia y Vega'.  All my uncles 
and my father knew this joke;  they never got tired of it, and 
neither did I.

	When the menfolk gathered, they would savor cigars in 
candela wrappers and drink whiskey out of tiny glasses with gold 
rims, leaning back in their chairs around the dining room table, 
luxuriating after a family meal.

	They might play a spirited game of pinochle while I lolled 
on the carpet in the living room with the other children admiring 
our cigar bands and listening to fibber McGee and Molly, The 
Shadow, or The First Nighter on teh big floor-model radio.  The 
aunts and my mother would knit, chat, and shout good-natured 
comments back and forth with the card players.

	These men had survived the hardships and privations of the 
immigrant experience, worked hard, and now were able to sit at a 
bought-and-paid-for table in the bosom of their family, survey 
their achievements, enjoy a hand of cards, a good cigar, a glass of 
schnapps, and maybe a (piece of fruit?).  The rewards of 
citizenship in a democracy.  At some point in the evening, 
invariably one uncle or another would stretch and hook his thumbs 
in his waistband and sigh "Ahhh...America!"

	With so many of my happy childhood memories fragrant 
with cigar smoke, and my little personal treasures redolent of 
Havana, for being kept in cigar boxes, it was inevitable that I 
would turn to the leaf when the time came.

	That time came only this year.  I had stunk up my environs 
with pipes for most of my adult life, and some time ago I quit.  I 
thought I was perhaps puffing a bit too much, and anticipating 
possible trouble, I boxed up my beloved Briers, tossed out the last 
of the Balkan Sobranie mixture, and went cold turkey.

	Kicking was no problem for a Schtarker like myself.  After 
buying out the candy counter, and consuming every sort of mint, 
caramel, sour ball, and chewing gum for a week, the nicotine devil 
was out of my body.  Of course, I was unable to work, sleep, or 
think for weeks and weeks, I growled at my wife, was plagued by 
morbid thoughts, and spent hours drumming with my fingers on 
the desktop and staring into space, but I was not going to go back 
to the pipe.  I had sworn off, and a swear is a swear!

	Fortune decreed that a brochure should arrive in the mail.  
It was from a discount cigar company.  There were pictures of the 
various products - remarkably the same.  A cylinder rounded on 
one end.  How do you take a good picture of a cigar?  It's a cigar!    
But the copy!  The copy was hypnotic.  All about Honduran and 
Jamaican and Dominican leaf and creamy brown wrappers of 
Connecticut shade-grown.  Maduro cigars, black as coffee;  Green 
Claros, and all sorts of cigars, just as good as Cuban, or grown 
from seeds smuggled out of Cuba, or made by cigar makers who 
had learned their trade in Havana.  And these things were rare and 
expensive!  I never knew there were cigars that go for eight or nine 
dollars a smoke!!!

	I swore off pipes...I didn't swear anything about cigars.  
Besides, I read somewhere that while pipes were less threatening 
to health than cigarettes, cigars are less dangerous yet!  They're 
practically good for you.

	The cigars arrived, and I've been smoking one or two each 
evening.  I wasn't sure I liked them at first, but now I'm sure.  My 
hand is stead, my eye is clear.  I am able to work again.  I dont 
have desperate thoughts.  So what if when I come into my office in 
the morning, it smells like old jewish men hae been playing cards 
there all night?  So what if I have to gargle mouthwash before I 
can kiss my wife?  So what if, besides looking like my father, I 
now smell like him too?  I am now myself again, and I did not go 
back to that vile pipesmoking habit.

			Daniel Pinkwater, November 1994.

	The part of this essay which first caught my attention was
his joke about "You like music?"  My own grandfather used to tell me
that joke when he was a cigar-smoker, and it really took me back.  
(As an aside, I might add that it was a sheer joy to tell this joke
myself upon the occasion of smoking my own first cigar.)

	Pinkwater addresses the occasion of his pipe-smoking 
debut in an essay in his book "Fish Whistle".  You might be 
interested in checking it out.

	I also appreciated the fact that Pinkwater treats smoking as 
more than simply some "social disease", which has been 
practically the only way that the media currently refers to it 
anymore.  For Pinkwater, smoking isn't simply some bad habit, but 
a time-honored family tradition.

	Oh, well, just my thoughts.  I suppose I ought to try to 
catch up on the last issue of Pipe Digest, which is languishing on 
my hard drive.  Until later...

Peter Kukla

[ Thanks for the transcription, Peter! Any guesses whose catalog he
got? First clue: the first two initials are the same as
Tolkien's... :-) I vehemently disagree with what Mr. Pinkwater has to
say about pipes, of course... but it sounds like he had a habit, not a
hobby. Of course, I know where he could get rid of that unwanted
leftover Sobranie... :-) -S. ]

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From: Michael Bywater <???????????????????????????>
Subject: The Plot Thins...

Pretty good try at deducing my plot... you were quite right about J S Bach 
turning up in the whorehouse... but it's rather more complex than that and 
there's no detective.

As they say: close, but no cigar.

But next time I need a plot in a hurry, I'll call on your
services. Personally, I find them a burden.

Still, there's good news.  Just discovered a pound of Benson's Special
Cut Plug in a Midlands tobacconist.  God's Own Smoke, now
discontinued, so that's a little ray of sunshine.

[ Oh, well, there goes the Elizabethan.. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????????????? (Franz Peter Seiler)
Subject: My way

Antti wrote:
> What's your opinion about Italian pipes? I'm extremely interested to
> know your experiences about Savinelli (f.ex.model: "Rome") system
> pipes, which use a small balsa-wood-stick as a filter in the stem.

I have some Savinelli pipes and like them! (As far as I know is "Rome"
not a model but a sub-company of Savinelli. They produce pipes under
Savinelli license.)

> Personally I find them quite pleasing; easy to smoke, the condense
> evaporates in balsa, and puffs come in "loud and clear".

I like the balsa filter system! I tried several others (e.g. Vauen)
and finally prefer the Savinelli system. But this depends heavily on
where you are (air conditions are different in a mountain area like
Austria vs. sea climate like Italy). For me I agree that the taste is
not influenced by the balsa filter. In the German magazine "PIPE CLUB"
will be an "evaluation" of filter systems in the next issue. I am waiting
for this and give you additional hints after (if you want...)

> I've been smoking Amphora Regular (the one in brown pouch) for a
> couple of years.  This is another question I will put to you,
> fellow-pipesmokers: Can you recommend a milder blend (I mean less
> nicothine), but one that has equal class of tobacco and smoking
> quality?

Up to now I have not smoked Amphora. I know a friend who smokes this. From
the room flavor (the arome you smell in the room) I think the Borkum Riff
could be close to this. Borkum Riff is available in Ultra Light, too. The
Borkum Riff "regular" is Whiskey flavoured. Another sort is with Cherry.

Hope this was of some help.

Greetings from Austria,

Franz P. Seiler

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From: ???????????????????????????????
Subject: Picking a perfect pipe

My cousin just purchased his first pipe and wrote for some suggestions on 
picking out his best buy.  What follows is some of my response.  
Hopefully it will provide other newbies some information that will help 
them make a wise purchase.  The names have been changed to protect the 
Have you ever heard of the brand name X?  I saw a couple of these pipes 
at Low Joe's.  (a cheap tobacco shop here)  The prices range from $15-20. 
 One pipe was meerschaum lined.  Do you think they sound a little too 
cheap?  They seemed to be alright appearance wise.
More potential pipe smokers have been lost because they started w/ a poor 
pipe so let's instead talk about what makes one pipe better or worse than 
another.  The first is cheap materials.  Plastic is cheap.  Corncobs are 
too, but they can absorb moisture and are disposable.  Briar is a hard 
wood that dissipates heat well by allowing a carbon cake to build up on 
the bowl and transfer heat to the wood around it.  Other woods are also 
used, but are not as common.  Meerschaum is also a good conductor of heat 
but doesn't burn like wood so a carbon cake never builds up. It simply 
isn't needed.  That's the the Yugo, Chevy, Cadillac hierarchy of 

Perfect materials are expensive so pipe makers patch.  Meerschaum isn't 
patched but are graded by color and quality of the stone.  Briar can be 
filled w/ putty.  IMO, it doesn't change the quality of the smoke, but 
fills can color differently than the wood as it ages.  Fills in the heel 
[where the stem joins the bowl] get hot so I try to avoid them.  Plastic 
is poured as perfect so patching isn't a problem.

The other sign of workmanship is that the bottom of the draw hole exactly 
meets the bottom of the bowl.  This way all the tobak is smoked and acts 
as a filter where all the components can be burned.  Cheap pipes are made 
w/ larger draw holes followed by condensers to compensate.  They also can 
have filters to complete the job the tobak should be doing.  After a 
couple of draws the filter becomes saturated, and then worthless.

True cono-sewers like meerschaum.  It ages gracefully, smokes well, and 
can have a rare shape.  They also are fragile, and the wax coating can be 
discolored when handled improperly.  The briar is more rugged and are 
more traditional.  They also tend to be in standard shapes.  Meerschaum 
lined pipes are an attempt to combine the best of both worlds.  The only 
problem w/ this compromise occurs when the lining cracks.  The powder 
created can be inhaled and is HIGHLY irritating.  The pipe should be 
discarded if this happens.

With all this in mind, let's get back to the original question.  What are 
you getting for your money?  [Rep pipe shop] probably carries seconds in 
that same price range that are all briar.  If you're lucky, they also 
carry cheap meerschaum's in that range too.  And if you don't find what 
you want, ask.  I have found pipe smokers to go out of their way to help 
another out.  Compare that seconds w/ the X from Low Joe's. or where 
ever.  My personal opinion is that you will get MUCH more pipe for you 
money from a reputable pipe shop than the discount shop.  

And as far as bulk tobak, the name may be different at the discount 
place, but it's probably the same blend at the wholesaler.
Neil Flatter                 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Chemistry - Math (CMA)       Department of Chemistry Stockroom Manager
Novell Supervisor            5500 Wabash Avenue 73
(812) 877 - 8316             Terre Haute, IN 47803-3999
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From: ????????????????
Subject: Re: Biography

Thanks for the first issue. Thank you, also, for adding Bloom's Cigar Camp to
your resource guide and for including the bit about the calendar. While I do
not have any ownership in Bloom's, I do try to go there every Saturday for
Camp and every last Tuesday of the month for Cigar Camp Dinner at Davio's
restaurant. It is a great place to meet and smoke. This past Saturday was
"Biker" day. About 50 or so members of the Harley Davidson Owners Group
descended "en mass" and the place was really jumping. The small streets
surrounding the store were packed with big Harleys. Penn Brewery, a micro
brewery and tavern where I go to smoke cigars and listen to Dixieland Jazz,
donated 2 barrels of their fine beer. The ladies decided that a Casa Blanca
Jeraboam (66 gauge by about 16") was the appropriate smoke. ;)

Anyway, I thought I would include my bio. Here it is.

I smoked cigarettes for 25 years until July 25th of this year. I had tried
pipes and cigars in the past but they must not have been the good ones. I
never inhaled them and they never gave me the satisfaction I got from a
cigarette. In fact, after a cigar, I would always smoke a cigarette for the
inhale and the nicotine, right up until July 25.
A year and a half ago, my wife held a surprise 40th birthday for me at my
good friend's home. He is a Doctor and smoked pipes, then cigars. Near the
end of the night, he gave out a bunch of cigars. I smoked a Cuban Romeo y
Julieta Churchill. WOW. It was like my first great, aged bottle of Bordeaux
(hence my online name of Wine Boss, but that's another story). I saw what a
great cigar could be like. 
It wasn't until Christmas time when another cigar smoking friend gave me a
5-pak of Macanudo cigars that I actually had enough cigars at the same time
to plan the time when I would try them. From then on, I was hooked. I spent
many months trying many different cigars. I bought Por Laranagas (very mild),
and Griffens (medium and nice), Zino Mouton Cadet #1 (more flavorful), and
every other brand at least once. Temple Halls were an early favorite.
However, like many new cigar smokers, I was moving to stronger tasting
The Cubans, when I could get them, always seemed to be stronger and more
flavorful. I still hold that opinion. But I have looked for those non-Cuban
cigars that are most "Cuban-like". Also, I would rather spend 2 bucks on a
cigar than 10. 

In May of this year, my wife and I went to London, Bordeaux (there's that
word again) and Paris for our 10th wedding anniversary. We had honeymooned in
Paris in '84. CUBA HEAVEN!!! The Londoners were the most friendly people I
have met. At Dunhill's, my first cigar after the flight and a short nap was a
Cohiba Robusto! Talk about relaxation. The chap in the humidor room took my
picture with it in front of the Cohiba cabinet. My wife made the picture into
a mouse pad. I'm looking at it now. Boy, do I look like I'm having fun! At
Davidoff, the owner, Edward Sahakian, took Paulette's (my wife) and my
picture and then we got him in the photos with each of us. He GAVE us 7 Cuban
Davidoff cigars before we left. That has to be over $100.00 worth of cigars.
And they aren't replenishable, either! What great people! (By the way, the
Davidoff's were magnificent. I still have some that Edward gave us and some I
bought from Desmond Sautter's store.) In France, I smoked 99% Cuban cigars.
Every one was more flavorful than the Dominicans I liked. Tried a Griffen
that I had bought a box of back here and I couldn't taste much.

But one must be reasonable in Embargoland. I have since tried Henry Clay
Breva Fina's. At 2.10 a piece, this cigar is a bargain. It looks a little
weird but it tastes great. I find it stronger than most Dominicans but
without a bite. It has become my every-day cigar. I also like Santa Rosa,
Encanto, and the new Leon Jimenes Robustos. I still buy almost all of the
different brands at some time to keep the tastes new.

I quit cigarettes with the help of the patch and cigars. I only needed the
patch for about 3.5 weeks (half normal time) and I do NOT inhale cigars. I
had never tried to quit before. I found it to be one of the easiest things I
had ever done. I don't know why, because I am overweight and have trouble
controlling that, but if I can do it, anyone can. Now I smoke cigars
(although not at home) and I figure I just made myself much healthier. I own
my own business selling computer cables, connectors, adapters, wire, LAN
products and installations, and I can smoke in my office since I own the old
brick train station we are in. I do use an exhaust fan so my employees don't
have to smell it but I'm free to smoke anywhere but home. My wife smokes a
small cigar about 5 times a year and I agree that the house would begin to
smell too much over a long period of time (got to set up a room with fan!!!).

So, sorry if I bored you. Hope to "see" you all more often in the future and
I am looking forward to getting the next issue. Keep talking about pipes
because I'm getting interested in trying one again. Maybe I'll borrow my
friend's Dunhill. Ha. Well, he doesn't smoke them much anymore, anyway. We'll

Keep up the good work and thanks for the interest.

Matt Green   aka Wine Boss  Sewickley, PA

[ Thanks for the bio, Matt! As a former Beemer owner and DOD #3210,
I'm glad to hear about the biker weekend at Bloom's. Flame to live,
live to flame. :-) -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re:  Pipe Mailgroup


Thanks for the information that others have not had trouble.  I do have a
message into the sysop.  I will let you know what. if anthing, he says.

In the meantime, I appreciate the suggestion that I spur the discussion by
starting it.  I'll give some though to what might be interesting, although it
seems that the group is bipolar, with a large number of new pipesters, and a
large number of old hands.  Some of the people I have been talking to lately,
and it is influencing my questions, are real old hands, and fanatics.  At the
SHPC most mebers, not myself, onfess to having collections of 350-600 pipes.
They come to meetings with ten to twelve pipes to show off, of one shape, e.g.
 bulldogs.  You may recall the piece from a couple of weeks ago about the
meeting with Butera pipes, priced at $250-600. I suspect most of our newsgroup
is not interested in such things, or can, like me, only dream about having
such collections.  IS this conspicuous consumption or an addiction gone bad?

In the meantime, I think I will go clean one of my Upshall seconds, and relax
and wait for an answer from Delphi.

Thanks for the time and efforts.

Steve Wyman

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From: ?????????????? (Gregory Pease)
Newsgroups: alt.smokers.pipes
Subject: Pipe club meeting...

I know it might be a bit far for *some* of you, but...

The monthly meeting of the Greater (San Francisco) Bay Area Pipe Club
will be meeting next Sunday at 2pm.  Show up, and you're a member!  We
meet on the third Sunday of each month at Schmidt's Pub, 142 Solano
Avenue, Albany CA.  A good time rarely so inexpensive.  Lots of tobacco
and pipe lore, trading is often fast and furious, much gorgeous briar to
see and touch, and fine cameraderie to boot!  (Add to that the decent
selection of micro-brewery beers, plus a few tasty draughts from
England, and you've got a nice way to spend an afternoon! ;)

So, if you're planning a soujourn to California (or you just happen to
live nearby...) come on by!  I know at least one other net fellow will be

| Gregory Pease		|
| ??????????????	|
| 510/234-2830		|

[ Sounds good, Gregory! Even though California is a hardship state for
smokers, I wish I could go. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????? (Sami Mikhail)
Newsgroups: alt.smokers.pipes
Subject: Re: Pipe club meeting...

Gregory Pease (??????????????) wrote:
:[Brilliant post about a pipe club meeting in San Fran. Deleted.]

This is a great idea.
Anyone interested in doing something like that in the DFW area?
E-Mail me if you're interested.
#Sami Mikhail			Ask Me about "WinWin Solutions".      # 
#(???????????????????)		Makers of WinFind and WinInstall.     # 
#				Custom MS-Windows Solution Providers. #

[ Sami's not a Digest member, but if the DFW club comes together, I'd
appreciate a word. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????? (THOR NYC)
Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
Subject: New Cigar Club in New York City

I stopped by Arnold's Tobacco Shop on Madison Avenue today and picked up a
copy of the following flyer (I have no affiliation with this club):


Several months ago, a small group of us cigar smokers got together to
enjoy single malt scotch and cigars. We thought it would be an excellent
idea to do this throughout the year and invite others to join us.
Hopefully, it will blossom into a club that will feature different cigars,
foods and spirits with special guests and speakers.

As a first step in building membership for the club, we would like to
develop a list of cigar enthusiasts who would like to join us. We ask that
you fill out the bottom portion of this flyer and send it to us. Upon
receipt, we will forward information regarding the club to you.

We look forward to hearing from you in the near future.


The Gotham Cigar Club

Please mail completed form to:

The Gotham Cigar Club
28 Vesey Street, Suite 2133
New York, NY 10007

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From: ???????????????????? (Daniel Gray)
Date: 15 Nov 1994 02:21:51 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
Subject: Chicago Area Cigar Smokers Club

This is a call for discussion relating to the formation of a 
Chicago Area Cigar Event Organization. The initial purpose is
to establish a periodic get together for the purpose of cigar
smoking, lively discussion, good food and drink.

This is not designed to be affiliated with any commercial business
or to sell you cigars.  It is to be designed by those of us who
are interested in a good time, good food and conversation.

If you are interested, please take a moment to answer a few questions
so that I may collect some information to the end that we may create
this group to serve its members.  I was going to make it multiple
but I will just tally what you write.

1. Indicate the frequency with which you would attend such a gathering:
2. Indicate your preference of the time and day for such a gathering:
3. How much time would you spend at such a gathering:
4. Where would you like to see this gathering:
5. What kind of facility would you like to gather at:

I will collect and compile this information and then distribute it
back to each person who contributes.  Please e-mail your reply and
I will begin a digest of the discussion which will be e-mailed as 
sufficient information becomes available.

My own answers to the above questions are:
	1 - Bi-Weekly
	2 - Saturday Afternoons or Friday Evenings
	3 - 3+ Hours
	4 - Near the Schaumburg area
	5 - Bar or Private Club

Daniel Gray          -- currently smoking an Adante
???????????????????? --

[ Please let me know if this comes together, Daniel, and I'll put it
in the Guide if so. -S. ]

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From: "A.W. Donovan-Shead" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Smoke Signal #7

Smoke Signal #7
November 12, 1994

Pipes Digest #165 brought me a laugh with Condor Old Lung Ripper
induced coloratura vomiting, lurid and very entertaining, reminding
me of Spike Milligan's fictional Agony Shag. Last time I had some
good laughs like this was while reading John Blofeld's book "City
of Lingering Splendour." He is very observant and has a good ear
for dialogue.

Baby's Bottom tobacco I last saw in what I remember as a one ounce
tin with a powder-blue lid, on the shelf of a tobacconist's shop in
the Fratton Road, Portsmouth, England. Lying dormant in my memory,
this name resurfaced with a beer I brewed once and christened
"Bottom Burp Bitter."

Gallaher seem to have bought out most of the tobacco names in
Britain. James B. Russell Inc. are their U. S. distributors at:

               25 Park Way,
               Upper Saddle River,
               NJ 07458.
               (800) 526-4653

British brands available are:

     Balkan Sobranie No.759 Mixture: "Offering the extra richness
of Blue Mountain Latakia. . . mild smoking with a full aroma."

     Balkan Sobranie Smoking Mixture: "A classical Latakia mixture
with rare Yenidje added."

     Balkan Sobranie Scottish No.3 Reserve: "An original mixture of
light and dark Virginia tobacco."

     Balkan Sobranie No.7 Reserve: "A rubbed-out ready Virginia,
once made exclusively for the Directors of Sobranie."

     Balkan Sobranie Virginia No.10: "A connoisseur's blend, mild
yet with an aroma that lingers on."

     Sullivan and Powell Gentleman's Mix: "Mellow taste and
distinctive aroma."

     Sullivan and Powell Special Mix: "Unique flavour and aroma of
a typical British Mixture."

     Condor Pipe Tobacco: "Full bodied with superb flavour and cool
smoking qualities. Both long cut and rubbed out styles."

     Condor Mild Blend: "A rich, milder ready rubbed tobacco."

     Escudo Pipe Tobacco: "A handmade curly tobacco, the unique
combination of pure Virginia leaf and dark matured Perique.
Excellent smoking qualities."

     Rich Dark Honeydew: "A mellow blend of fine Virginia tobaccos
of medium strength and suitable for both beginner and established
smoker. Rubbed Out and Flake styles."

     John Cotton's Mixture: "A secret mixture of choice tobaccos
blended with Latakia. A smoker's delight."

     Gallaher's Mellow Virginia Pipe Tobacco: "A mellow blend of
the very highest quality Virginia tobacco with a distinctive and
pleasing aroma."

Smoking, health, surveys, and statistics were a topic in #165,
concerning the manipulation of the statistics to support a complete
ban on the pastime, and the relegation of nicotine to the list of
proscribed addictive substances. In the 15 October 1994 edition of
the New Scientist, Phyllida Brown reported the completion of a
forty-year study of smoking among male British doctors. Full
results of this study appeared in the British Medical Journal the
same week. Most central libraries in the United States will have a
copy of the BMJ.

Richard Doll started the study after he and Austin Hill showed in
1950 that people with lung cancer were more likely to be smokers.
"The researchers asked all the registered doctors in Britain about
their smoking habits. Of the 40,000 replies, more than 34,000 were
from men so the study was restricted to them. The men's ages ranged
from their twenties to near retirement age. An analysis of the data
in 1971 showed that about 10,000 had died; by 1991 roughly another
10,000 had died."

"The team analysed the causes of death according to whether the
doctors smoked or not, whether they smoked cigarettes, pipe, or
cigars, how many cigarettes they smoked daily, and whether and when
they had given up." Apparently, the study confirms that smoking
increases the chances of developing twenty-four fatal conditions
including cancers, heart disease, strokes, and bronchitis. Also, it
showed that moderate drinking can be good for you, finding that the
death rate among middle-aged and elderly men who had one or two
drinks per day was one sixth lower than for non-drinkers.

With the New Scientist article there was a chart showing the
percentage alive against age for those who smoked one to fourteen
cigarettes per day, fifteen to twenty-four per day, twenty-five or
more per day, and for those who never smoked regularly. At the LD50
point on the graph, at which fifty percent of the sample population
had died, the difference in age at death between those who smoked
twenty-five or more cigarettes per day and those who never smoked
regularly was seventy years and eighty years respectively. It would
be worth looking up the BMJ at the library to see how pipe and
cigar smokers fared in the study.

This week past, I noted a small but significant change in attitude
towards smokers of the pipe. As I was discarding the just arrived
catalogue of J. Crew & Company, I noticed the happy family pictured
on the front cover and the Canadian Briar clenched at a rakish
angle between the teeth of the male model, it was unlit.

In #165, logorrhea was attributed to writers as an occupational
disease. It is easy to get carried away when writing, but then it
is always better to overwrite and then cut back. In these smoke
signals I try to limit myself to no more than three pages of the
word-processor, and already I am half way down the third page now.
Let's press on and take a look at those brochures I promised last

Best British Briar Company had twenty-nine shapes available in
three finishes: Virgin, Sterling Silver, and Thorneycroft. Here is
the advertising hyperbole for the Virgin finish.

Virgin, Stock No.P90000: "Because the most particular pipe smokers
in the world like their pipes in natural Briar Colour, the finest
Rock-Hard specimen grain bowls are used for the BBB Own Make
Virgin. They break in like a dream. As you smoke your most
perfectly made pipe, it begins to colour, finally turning from pale
blond to tawny golden russet; the pride and joy of the pipe
connoisseur. Years of slow growth have made Corsican briar the
finest in the world. Months of special aging and curing have
mellowed the briar to the peak of smoking perfection, and hours
upon hours of superb English Craftsmanship have done their part in
creating the world's most perfect pipe. The splendid joy of smoking
a BBB Own Make Virgin will last for years and years. Each pipe is
superbly fitted with a mouthpiece of finest English Ebonite which
bears the famous BBB inlaid metal emblem. Beautifully packed in a
superb English luxury pipe glove and red label gift box."

My Dublin from Peterson's Emerald line, shape 268, was pale blond
when young. It has what BBB call a Virgin finish. Now, it is auburn
with dark-figured grain. When I bought this pipe, there were
several others that I inspected and rejected because of noticeable
filling of pits, this one is perfect to my eye. While not a
straight grained briar, it is endowed with attractive birdseye
grain fore and aft with slanted straight grain on the sides.

Doctor Donovan had an unsmoked pipe made out of "Selected English
Straight Grain" and of Lovat shape; straight grain all round,
birdseye top and bottom. It has no pipemaker's mark, but it's shank
is stamped with: "Made in London, England  016". Dressed with a
lacquer, this pipe was pale blond in the beginning and is now about
half way through its metamorphosis at light russet.

BBB's Sterling Silver Own Make had a walnut finished bowl and a
silver ferrule reinforced mortise and tenon joint. Thorneycroft was
a finish described as being made through "the special process of
sand erosion," and probably named after Sir John Isaac Thorneycroft
who established a shipbuilding empire at Chiswick, later removing
to Woolston, Southampton, England when the business outgrew their
original yards. BBB pipes ranged in price from a low $6.95 to a
high $25.

Brigham Pipes Ltd. had a brochure advertising thirty-six shapes of
briar plus five limited editions. Brigham have been in business
since 1906. Their prices ranged from $9.95 to $65 for a straight
grain. When the brochure was printed, they were located at 121 King
Street, West Toronto, Canada, and had a telephone number of 368-
7615. In addition to pipes of briar they sold a number of
accessories including a glass bowled Hookah Water Pipe with one or
two hoses. Brigham offered tips for the new smoker.

"Tips for the New Pipe Smoker: The choice of your first pipe can
well make the difference between success and failure. Select a
light-weight pipe with a fairly small inside diameter in the best
quality you can afford. For the first few smokes only half-fill
your pipe until a protective layer of carbon is formed in the
bottom. Puff s-l-o-w-l-y, but smoke it right to the bottom. Keep
the thickness of carbon to about 1/16 inch with a proper reamer. Do
not use a knife. Commence smoking when you are relaxed. Using a
mild to medium strength tobacco, pack the bowl firmly yet loosely
enough to draw comfortably. Light evenly, drawing hard at first.
Then puff GENTLY. Hold the bowl of your pipe in your hand, and if
the outside becomes uncomfortably warm lay it aside to cool. The
pipe should be cleaned out after every smoke and occasionally set
aside with the stem up to rest and dry out. To allow for this, an
average smoker should have a minimum of four pipes."

Naturally, opinions differ as to how one should approach the
management of one's smoking equipment. Fit a curve through the
multitude of opinions and do what works for you. Herment says hang
your pipes by their bowls, I choose to rack mine with the bowls
down; Brigham says scrape the bowl with a pipe reamer, I choose to
use a pipe-knife.

Well, we got blown off onto another tack, but in my next puff we
will get back on course and look at Carl Ehwa's "The Book of Pipes
and Tobacco" as well as McClelland tobacco.


[ Many thanks, Andrew! Enjoyed the bit of news about the J. Crew
catalog, and the BBB reprise. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: introduction

Dear afficionados,
A couple of weeks ago I subscribed to a Dutch list dedicated to
cigar smoking. As an extra service, the members of this cigar
list were put on the distribution list of the Pipes Digest. This
turned out to be a good move: I've received four issues of the
digest now, and read them with great pleasure.
Even though I am somewhat of a 'side subscriber' I'd like to
introduce myself to the readers of the digest. I'm a 44-year old
desk-editor at Elsevier Science in Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
My smoking career started when I was about 14 - my dad would
offer me a cigarette, and say 'Why don't you try one?' He smoked
Golden Fiction, a virginia blend, which gave him a nasty cough.
On Thursday evenings, my uncle, a grocer, would bring the week's
shopping. His standard joke was: 'Would you like to smoke? Then
set your coat on fire!' Sometimes he got a cigar from one of his
customers, which he then gave to me; a real challenge. I tried
a lot of different cigarette brands, shag tobacco and cigars, but
I could never find the right taste. 
Still, smoking remained an interesting ritual, and I tried other
ways of consuming tobacco.
My grandfather used to smoke cheap cigars, and when he had
reached the band, he would put the stub in his pipe and finish
it completely. I was duly impressed by his thriftiness, but when
I tried this trick myself, I found the experience dreadful. So
I tried real pipe tobacco, various sorts, but always in cheap
pipes. I tasted all sorts of mixtures, but to my disappointment
I discovered that a sweet-smelling tobacco did not necessarily
imply a sweet smoke... It never gave me the satisfaction I craved
for. I stumbled on for a couple of years, and in the end only
smoked on rare occasions. The digest has changed this, it has
given me an urge to try pipe smoking once again - and this time
it's for real!
I have a Falcon pipe that I bought 10 years ago, with a metal
stem and so-called 'dry rings' that give you a clean smoke.
Somehow, to me this isn't a 'real' pipe, so last week I set out
to buy a better one. I had a special type in mind, the bulldog,
with a plain finish and a straigh stem. After a careful selection
procedure I bought a Peterson, which I am now breaking in. 
I smoke MacBaren's Golden blend, but my real love is the Dunhill
standard mixture, medium. I remember smoking this in Syria, where
I was working on an archeological excavation near a small
village. I was sitting in front of the clay house where we
stayed. The night was clear, and there was a beautiful starry
sky. The evening temperature was pleasant, there was no wind, and
in dead silence the smoke coiled straight up to heaven.
Pipe smoking to me means peace and reflection. I can only smoke
when I am relaxed and dedicated to my pipe. If only it would keep
on burning! That's an art I still have to master.
Smoke in peace!
Olaf Meesters

[ Enjoyed your story. Welcome, Olaf! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????? (AJAXBOSTON)
Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
Subject: *** a must see if you mail order ***

This is a sample of their price list.
If you would like one call them at 617-561-4990
And get on the mailing list ( It is well worth it!!! )
I find it to be informitive and interesting. They send out news flyers
with all kinds of trends and new things to come in the cigar ind.
Two Guys Smoke Shop 262 Meridian Street East Boston, MA.
02128.  They ship all over and if you live out of state you can save the
state tax!!!.  617-561-4990
--- A. FUENTE ---
 --- BUTTERA ROYAL VINTAGE ---	my favorite cigars	
DORADO 652	        20	101.49
CEDRO FINO	        20	 93.69
BRAVO CORTO	        20	 85.89
CAPO GRANDE            	20	117.09
 --- ROLLERS CHOICE ---Same as a FONSECA cigar only 1/2 the price
DOUBLE CORONA	        25	 43.89
CORONA	                25	 39.09
LONSDALE	        25	 40.99
ROBUSTO	                25	 27.39
FINO	                25	 29.29
FIGURADO	        25	 68.29
And a lot more. Too many to list.

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From: ?????????????????????????????
Subject: Digest

        Every now and then, we all have extremely good luck.  A
couple of weeks ago, I was browsing through an antique shop, not
really looking for anything in particular.  I came upon a box of old
pipes.  I flipped through them quickly, as they were mainly
drugstore-like cheapies.  Suddenly, I noticed that unique bit design.
My hopes grew as I fished it out of the box.  Imagine my delight to
find that it was an old Peterson, and in fairly good shape.  I don't
know much about Petersons, as I can hardly afford them, so if anyone
has any information to share I would be glad.  The model I have, as
marked on the bottom, is a "Dunmore" and it is stamped 78.  Anybody
know anything about these?
        I took it to the neighborhood tobacconist to get it
rejuvanated and freshened up.  From the moment I lit it, I knew it was
the best pipe I have.  I'm so pleased with my find.  (Oh, I paid about
$15 for it.  I'm almost certain that I came out ahead, but again I'm
not absolutey sure about the value.  The fact that I now have such a
good pipe makes it all worthwhile, regardless of the value.)
        Before I go, let me ask for further comment.  I'm thinking of
trying a clay pipe.  Anything I should know about these?

Jay R. Dew
Norman, OK

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From: "hedgcock, john" <??????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #165 - November 11, 1994

    Would anyone have any hints about removing oxidation from the stem
    of a brand new pipe? I recently made a rather considerable
    investment in a Savinelli, whose mouthpiece immediately
    discolored. A bit of vigorous polishing removed some of the
    discoloration, but it now lacks the luster which makes the sight
    of a newer pipe so appealing. Is there anything short of having it
    buffed on a machine that would do the trick? The local pipe shop
    lacks such a machine.

    Any recommendations would be most welcome!



[ I would think that a buffing wheel loaded with some jeweler's rouge
might do the trick... Follow with carnauba wax, on a different wheel. -S. ] 

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest

Dear Sir,
I thought I would write a little about myself.  I hope I am sending this
to the correct address.  If a am mistaken, please tell me where I should
send my postings.  

	My name is Scott Patten, and I am a freshman at Iowa State University.
My major is English, and I hope to teach at the college level someday. I
began smoking at an early age during the eigth grade.  At that time I smoked
cigaretts and an occasional cigar.  My favorite book at the time, and still
today is The Lord of the Rings by Tolkein.  Well, needless to say the thought
of a pipe was fascinating.  So I raided my dads old pipe collection, and took
my first bowl.  Ever since that I have found the pipe without hesiation
the best smoke.  The smoothness of a pipe and that taste slaughters cigaretts
as far as I am concerned.  I smoked on and off through high school and
eventually bought my own pipe.  I purchased it at our local tobacconist.
He said it ws a fine pipe, and not knowing too much I figured he was right.
The pipe is an Irish Second with a bent stem.  It is from this store that
I purchase my tobacco also.  He has sold me many blends.  There are originals,
and I have often wondered if the tobacco in canisters from England would be as 
good.  If someone could help me with this question, I would appreciate it.
I would also be interested in any infromation on how one should properly
smoke. I have smoked by instinct for years, not knowing how to properly
care for a pipe or how to pack it.  Any info would be appreicated.
Thanks for listening.	
						Scott Patten

[ Welcome, Scott! You're lucky to have a good tobacconist close by. -S. ]

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From: Harvey Lynn <???????????????>
Subject: Addition to Resource Guide


I want to add an item to the Resource Guide.  The Tinder Box, in Santa
Monica, CA.  The Original Tinder Box(Est.1928) The founder, Ed Koplin, Sr.
has been blending tobacco since 1928.

It's not at all your basic shopping mall Tinder Box.  It's a small cottage
with a very cozy, friendly ambiance and a perpetual blue
cloud of cigar and pipe smoke.  There's an excellent selection of pipes
ranging from high end collectables to moderately priced estate pipes
and 'good values'(which I smoke).  Every once in a while I'll treat my
self to a cigar but they're a little hard on my budget.

Ed discovered his blending talents while working in a pharmacy.  Customers
would ask him create a mixture tasting like the designer blends, Dunhill,
etc.  He still oversees the shop.

My favorite blend is still Continental 51, a rich aromatic which isn't too
sweet, and which, by the way, was suggested by a pipe smoking female
employee. Since receiving the Digest I've expanded my horizons and now enjoy
English blends as well.   As you can imagine there are dozens of prepared
blends as well as bulk tobacco to create your own blend.  They keep a book
of favorite blends of the  'Rich and Famous'(well, many names that we'd
recognize, I was told) but this practice is almost defunct.  They also
carry tins of the tobaccos I've read about in the newsgroup and the Digest,
but I've yet to try them.

Ed's sells pouches of tobacco labeled Tinder Box International and
those which state that they are original blends and not available elsewhere.
When I ask about Ed's affiliation with the other Tinder Boxes I'm told
that Ed's store is a 'Maverick`(maybe someone knows the whole story?).

I'm in no way affiliated with the store but thought that it should be
included in your Resource Guide.  They're now in a fight for their life
because Santa Monica is on the verge of passing the strictest anti-smoking
law in the country which would outlaw smoking in all work places(except
the cab of a truck) and public places, even _outdoor_ eateries.

Steve, I really look forward to receiving the Digest and it's getting
better every week.  Good job.  BTW, are all these pipe people really
so civil or do you moderate out the flames and such?

The Tinder Box Wilshire
2729 Wilshire Blvd.
Santa Monica, CA  90403
(310) 828-4511

ps:  the week after I submitted my bio to the Digest someone from the
Southwest Pipe and Cigar Assoc(I think it was) e-mailed me about getting
together with their club.  He said he had my address and would contact
me about upcoming meetings.  I lost your mail...where are you?

[ If you find out, please let me know too, for the Guide! -S. ]

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From: JIMMY MOIN <?????????????????????????>
Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
Subject: Re: Need Mail order Companies



JIMMY ???????????????????

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #165 - Novem...

Hi, Steve. I'm just back from a family visit trip to Chicago, where I took
the opportunity to load up on some winter pipe provisions. 
At Iwan Ries, sadly reduced these days from their glory days, I found an
unsmoked Cellini Original in their estate pipe selection. Snagged it for $20.
I also picked up 7 oz. of their International Blend, and a couple different
pouches of Balkan Sobranie, fondly remembered from the early 1960s.
At Alfred Dunhill's humble little shop in Water Tower Place I sought some
sample quantities of their non-aromatic blends. Imagine my chagrin to learn
they do not sell the blends from bulk supplies; I had to buy it in tins, just
like I can do at most any tobacconist. Anyway, I  got 100 gram tins of Early
Morning Pipe and My Mixture 965, and 50 gram tins of London Mixture and
Nightcap. So far only the London Mixture remains unsampled, but the first
impressions are mildly disappointing. I guess "mildly" is the operative word
here, because I was hoping for fuller taste across the board. I'm most used
to McClelland's bulk mixture #2020, and none of the Dunhill smokes reach that
level of tastiness. Oh well, it's not BAD stuff, and I'm sure I'll puff it
all away over the coming months.
I thought I'd enlist technology in an end-run around recent smoking bans at
my local enclosed malls, where I used to smoke cigars throughout the winter,
in the public lounging areas. I bought ritzy air filter machine, set it up in
one room and smoked a cigar there. 24 hours later the room still reeked of
stale cigar, so I had to return the appliance, and also retire my cigars
until I can smoke them in my porch swing next spring. Sigh.
I sure enjoy reading Pipes Digest, and appreciate all the time and effort you
must expend on its timely publication to us "chimleys". Keep up the good
Best Regards, Dennis.

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From: ????????????? (Jeff Skaletsky)
Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
Subject: Cigar Room Grand Opening Tuesday in Sherman Oaks CA

My Cigar Monthly has an ad for Gus' Smoke Shop in Sherman Oaks.
This Tuesday Nov. 15th they're having their Grand Opening of 
"The Back Room"; hosted by Consolidated Cigars (Dunill, H. Upmann, 
Don Diego, Primo Del Rey, Montecruz, Royal Jamaica, Cabanas, 
Henry Clay, Don Miguel, Montecristo).

13420 Ventura Blvd., Sherman Oaks


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest Introduction

Thanks for including me in the mailing list. Your newletter is great. I'm
relatively new to the internet, and it is a pleasure to find such a civil
forum, and so many ideas and tips.

I have lived in the Boston area for the last 18 years, but I grew up in the
St. Louis area. Started smoking cigarettes when I was 15, and gave them up
about seven years ago, with beneficial effects to my lungs. (I really liked
the comment somebody made, that you don't taste with your lungs.) At any rate
I started smoking cigars about three years ago, but I am cheap, and don't
like paying that much in either time or money for my tobacco, even though, I
still have a half dozen or so most weeks. I like A. Fuentes Cuban Coronas, La
Hoya Selectas, and an occasional Ashton. I'm satisfied with the quality of
the smokes and not really inclined to experiment any more for now.

After two years of walking around in Peretti's and seeing all the pipes and
pipe smokers, I decided to try a pipe. I liked it from the beginning. It
tastes good, smells good, if I need to stop for a while, I can just put the
pipe in my pocket, and it's a process to improve forever, like making good
coffee. I started off with Peretti's pipes, then added a Peterson bulldog
second, several no-name seconds. Then I bought an Upshall, and have bought
two more, and two Peretti's straight grains. A  good friend gave me a
Peterson system pipe, which took forever to break in (I'm still not sure that
it is), and which does smoke pretty dry, as long as you don't tip it the
wrong way. I find that a good pipe is a much different experience, but that
price doesn't necessarily guarantee goodness. My 25 dollar Peterson second is
one of my best smokers.

I smoke English type blends. I have three from Peretti's that are my
regulars, and I've tried Balkan Sobranie original (not enough body), Butera's
English blend (wonderful, but more expensive than Peretti's Omega), and Four
Square London Mixture (also wonderful and expensive and close to Peretti's
Pride of Loch Lomand). I think the practice of naming blends is romantic, but
it sure makes comparison difficult. I am still experimenting with brands, but
I really appreciate having a shop that blends its own in the neighborhood.

Peretti's does an active mail order business. For the resource list:
L.J. Peretti Co.
2 1/2 Park Square
Boston, MA 02116
Phone 617-482-0218, FAX 617-482-3033.

Three of the shops in town put on occasional cigar smokers' nights. I'd like
to hear from someone in the Sherlock Holmes club. It would be nice to have a
place to sit around and smoke with congenial souls.

I've been to Jon's (?) smoke shop in Urbana, Ill. a couple of times, and find
it a really friendly place with a great selection of cigars and pipes,
especially their used pipes.

I'll close now, and just say how much I appreciate being a part of this
Michael Braun

[ Steve Wyman (??????????????????) could probably help you out with
the Sherlock Holmes club. Glad to have you here, and thanks for the
note about Peretti's! -S. ]

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From: Bryan Embrey <????????????????????????>
Subject: New Shop in Menlo Park, CA (Bay Area)


I dunno if anyone else has written in about this, but for SF Bay Area
readers a new shop opened up Monday in Menlo Park.  It's called, I
believe, Knickerbocker Pipes and is located at the corner of El Camino
Real and Santa Cruz Ave.  It's part of a restaurant/bar called the
British Banker's Club and is owned by the same person.  He was a cigar
smoker for many years, but switched to a pipe about four months ago.
He became so enamored of smoking a pipe that he opened up a store!  I
visited yesterday and spent about twenty minutes conversing and
browsing.  It's small but extremely cozy.  Two big, comfy leather
chairs flank a heating stove, while a small walk-in humidor is located
right behind.  The decor is very "old British", very tasteful, and
they have many old and antique books sitting on shelves.  They offer
about 20 different blends and maybe 20 different cigars as well as a
few high-priced cigarettes.  They expect a shipment of estate pipes in
soon as well as a bunch of Dunhills.  I was invited to come back and
bring my pipe which I plan to do soon.  I was also welcome to smoke my
pipe within the restaurant, no small occurence here in California.

Anyway, I should add that I've got no connection with them except as a new 
acquaintance and satisfied customer -- once!  

In other news (I'll shut up in just a sec), I found out the final "score" for 
the pipe smoking contest held a couple of months ago in San Jose, CA.  The 
record is now 1 hour, 11 minutes.

Take care,

[ This is terriffic, Bryan! I hope all our Bay Area members will pay a
visit. This is going in the Guide -- twice! See the next article,
which I cribbed from alt.smokers.pipes. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????? (Chris Cochems)
Subject: Re: Hooray!! new pipe store in SF Bay area (Menlo Park)

The shop is now open.  It is decorated in antiques, including two buffalo 
heads and several Tiffany lamps.  They have bulk tobacco, about 12 
blends, and some tins.  They are building their pipe stock slowly, but 
have a modest assortment of Petersons and GBD's.

They also have an interesting estate collection not yet priced comprised 
mainly of Dunhills.  One of them stamped with the year 1936 has never 
been smoked.

They are a part of the British Bankers Club.  You can purchase one of 
their quality cigars, then smoke it in the lounge, or drop into the 
tobacco shop for a pipefull and a nice port or sherry.

All in all, I rate this shop an 11 on the 1 to ten scale.  It is well 
worth a visit.

My candle burns at both ends;                        | I fish therefore I am.
It will not last the night;                          |   Chris Cochems (CNA)
But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends--                |      Hayward, CA USA
It gives a lovely light! --  Edna St. Vincent Millay |        ???????????????

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From: "M. Arndt" <????????????????>
Subject: Bengal Slices, Latakia, etc.

Well, after all this hubbub lately with Bengal Slices, I finally broke down and
bought both kinds from J.R. Cigar.  I tried the aromatic kind first, an opinion
on which I found later in the Digest back issues (not a good one, either).  I
am assuming this stuff has a lot of latakia in it.  One fair sized bowl of the
stuff was enough to make me feel sick.  I don't know if I need to build myself
up to a better tolerance for nicotine, but I've never felt like that after
smoking a bowlful before!  I think I'll stick to the lighter Virginia blends
for awhile.  Anyone have a similar experience with any kind of tobacco, or am I
just not man enough to handle it?  Is latakia known for its strength like
perique, or is it on par with other types?  Is there some sort of blend that
has a smaller latakia component that I should try to give it a fair chance?


"Ceci n'est pas une pipe"

[ Try the regular kind too, before giving up on 'em, Matt! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: Teh election

[ Personal message deleted. -S. ]

In the meantime, I'll send the further info on the Sherlock Holmes group, etc.
Smoke in peace.
By the way, if you find it try McClelland Christmas Cheer.
Steve Wyman

[ Will do, if I see it, Steve! -S. ]

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From: ????????????
Subject: Pipe Digest-CORPS

Hi! Ho!...To all the "puffers" on internet.......and I am not talking
about blowfish.

I shall not spend a great deal of time providing personal wisdoms or
critiques, but I did invite Lynwood Hines, the CORPS Public Relations
Person and Director of Special Projects to explain our organization.

What follows is  brief promotion of the Conclave......


Welcome!  The info below should tell all.  If you have any questions,
write or call.  We look forward to having you join us and to hearing
from you.  If you are in the Richmond area, don't hesitate to get in

The Conclave Of Richmond Pipe Smokers, C.O.R.P.S. (pronounced "CORE"
like the Marine Corps), is a non-profit organization, founded for its
members and the public to enjoy the Ancient & Honourable Art & Sport
of Pipe Smoking; and to educate and communicate any positive aspects
thereof.  We also, as much as possible, support Richmond area
children's charities with funds beyond our operating expenses.
Membership is open to any person or organization interested in any
aspect of the Art & Sport.  A dues or sponsorship payment is required
(currently $15. per year for individuals).

We meet monthly, usually at Universal Leaf Tobacco Corp. offices,
Broad & Hamilton Street's, but the location will vary.  Contact us for
the location of the next meeting.  An irregular newsletter is issued,
which provides meeting info, hobby happenings, literature, art and the

We also host an annual Pipe Smokers' Exposition & Celebration, on
Columbus Day weekend in October.  Join us at this event to marvel at
the world of pipe smoking!

We have a "voice-mail" phone which will record your message and give
you our news, anytime.  It is:

(804) 342-0761

or write us at the address below. 

Conclave of Richmond Pipe Smokers
PO Box 34023
Richmond, VA 23234

Happy pipe smoking!


Applause, Applause,..............for our guest, Lynwood Hines.

I hope the address and telephone number will find its way into the
resource guide for future reference.

Steve,......I shall visit within the next week several pipe emporiums
in Alexandria, Fairfax, and DC.......ie John Hayes, Graybeards of
London.  I shall write a brief review for my next mailer.

The Resource Guide is constantly being updated,......Which is best way
to obtain an updated copy, if one does not have WWW search
capability?.. or access?

May god bless every solitary puff!


[ Many thanks! CORPS is most certainly in the Guide. To other readers,
if you don't have Web or FTP access and you'd like a new copy of the
Resource Guide, just write and I'll mail you the most recent
version. And may God bless your briars too, Volts, and those of all
our other Gentle Readers. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????? (Steve Masticola)
Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
Subject: Re: Great American Smoke-out

???????????????????????? writes:

>I hope everyone who reads this group lit-up a good cigar and lifted a 
>glass of fine tawny port to toast all those participating in and promoting 
>the smoke-out yesterday <G>.  Happy smoking ...

Didn't hear about it, but I did pay a visit to Al DiFranco's shop on
Route 33 in Lawrenceville, NJ. Went in looking for one pipe. Went out
with two pipes, three cigars, a can of Cope's Escudo, six bundles of
Long's cleaners, and a bottle of sweetener. Did the old duck see me
coming or what? :-)

Tried one of the cigars last night; a Muniemaker. Essentially an El
Producto in a very coarse maduro wrapper. Wouldn't recommend it.
Didn't drink any port (not into it, really), but I did have a Sam
Adams Winter Lager, which was enjoyed.

The other two cigars (a Fuente and an Ashton, both also maduros) await
the next round of bashing. :-) (I was into sampling Maduros.)

BTW, if you're in the neighborhood, a trip to Mr. DiFranco's shop is
worthwhile. The pipe selection's not large, but there are plenty of
cigars, and Mr. DiFranco and the patrons are all friendly. Worth it
just to see Bing Crosby's letter of appreciation for Mr. DiFranco's
golf-club pipe. :-)

                        Smoke in peace,

                        (##{@}#########||| Steve.

                        (Maduro asciigram :-)

[ P.S.: The pipes I wound up with were a slightly bent GBD shell briar
and a signed Danish freehand (forget right now who made it, dang...) I
gave the freehand a test smoke this morning, but have yet to acquaint
myself with the GBD. -S. ]

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                       Today's Snappy Comeback:

(The Civil Servant Squelch:) "I'm only authorized to light 'em, not
put 'em out. You need a GS-17. Besides, I'm on my lunch break." 

                                - From "101 Ways to Answer the
                                  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
                                  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #166 - November 18, 1994
  2. Subject: Pipe Digest entry - Daniel Pinkwater's NPR essay (long)
  3. Subject: The Plot Thins...
  4. Subject: My way
  5. Subject: Picking a perfect pipe
  6. Subject: Re: Biography
  7. Subject: Re: Pipe Mailgroup
  8. Subject: Pipe club meeting...
  9. Subject: Re: Pipe club meeting...
  10. Subject: New Cigar Club in New York City
  11. Subject: Chicago Area Cigar Smokers Club
  12. Subject: Smoke Signal #7
  13. Subject: introduction
  14. Subject: *** a must see if you mail order ***
  15. Subject: Digest
  16. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #165 - November 11, 1994
  17. Subject: Pipes Digest
  18. Subject: Addition to Resource Guide
  19. Subject: Re: Need Mail order Companies
  20. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #165 - Novem...
  21. Subject: Cigar Room Grand Opening Tuesday in Sherman Oaks CA
  22. Subject: Pipes Digest Introduction
  23. Subject: New Shop in Menlo Park, CA (Bay Area)
  24. Subject: Re: Hooray!! new pipe store in SF Bay area (Menlo Park)
  25. Subject: Bengal Slices, Latakia, etc.
  26. Subject: Re: Teh election
  27. Subject: Pipe Digest-CORPS
  28. Subject: Re: Great American Smoke-out
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