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Subject: Pipes Digest #171 - January 1, 1995

		 Pipes Digest #171 - January 1, 1995
		     Circulation this issue: 719

Welcome to new members:

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Administrative note: Steve Beaty requests some pipe-related images for
his excellent Web page; please see his letter in this Digest.

And welcome, all, to 1995! Let us hope that the new year will be a
good one, filled with peace, prosperity, and the freedom to enjoy the
better things in life, including the moderate use of fine
tobacco. Join us now as we discuss firefighting, commercial aircraft,
the sale of meerschaums, a short tale, puffins, holiday madness,
homebuilt humidors, and spigots...

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             Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
                        Call -- Write -- Vote
                        Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscri...


As you requested, a little about myself:

I have been an avid pipe-smoker for over 30 years. My pipe of preference is
Dunhill--have more than 30 in my collection of approx. 150. I smoke Dunhill
Medium exclusively--was never into the aromatic stuff.

I am also an avid cigar smoker. My cigar of preference is Davidoff Grand Cru
series and the Special R. I have collected pipes from my years of travel with
many hand-carved Danish, English, and Italian pipes that are shoecased in my
Study. I even furnished my Study like a London club, complete with
chesterfield couch, wall-to-wall bookcases with a ladder---great place to
meditate  with a good smoke.

Looking forward to participating in a smoke-friendly environment where I
don't see those special signs: "no pipes or cigars allowed". Personally, I
find cigarette smoking much more offensive.

Best Regards,
Sid Gibson aka ???????????????
Garrison, NY    

[ No signs at all posted here, Sid! Welcome! -S. ]

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From: "Don S. Johnson" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest #170 - December 23, 1994

Happy holidays Steve and all. Last time around you asked me to report on the
Grand Opening Party at the relocated Tabagerie, Ltd., 666 Main Ave. (Rt 7)
Town Line Center, Norwalk, CT 06851. (203) 846-1112. [Resource Guide info].
Some 60 tobacco connaisants wandered in during the course of the day to
enjoy catered Italian goodies--from sausage-stuffed peppers through pasta
salad--pasteries, hand-made chocolates and Italian cookies; beer, wine, soda
and coffee. None of Tony's other celebraty customers (like Frank Gorshin,
Paul Newman) were there but a good time was had by those who were.
The new shop has a walk-in cigar humidor and a new policy. Customers may buy
boxes of cigars at a 10% discount and leave them in the humidor, stopping by
to help themselves to their cigars as needed. Future plans call for turning
the store's full basement into a "clubhouse" where customers may meet, play
cards and smoke to their heart's content. While there, I tried and fell in
love with Arturo Fuentes' No. 1 cigars; something I find truely flavorful
and enjoyable--specially with a glass of Aragmanac and a roaring fire. I
have been faithfully smoking JR's Ultimate Cetros (in addition to my pipe)
but _most_ of JR's decent cigars are out of stock more than they're in. Just
hate paying that damned CT sales tax on tobacco. Traded Tony the two
hand-made meershaums I couldn't find a buyer for on the digest (was I
surprised by _that_ "two hand-made meershaums, nicely colored, best offer"
and nada response) and received in return a beautiful Danish straight grain
freehand from his estate collection. Currently smoking his Playhouse Square
burley/virginia mixture, a nice all-day smoke though his Riverboat mild
aromatic is still my favorite and now my evening mixture. While the
Tabagerie has no catalog, it will mail product (tobacco, cigars, pipes) to
anyone who calls.
 Don Johnson

[ Thanks for the review, Don! Tabagerie Ltd. is already in the Guide;
Digest #169. Too bad about the meerschaums. Maybe the Perfect Buyer
will see them this issue. -S. ]

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[ Minor edit to correct a typo, I think... -S. ]

From: ?????????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #170 - December 23, 1994

Thanks for all those good wishes, friends.
Here's an old pipe Tale.

A man is so angry with a guy, that he says:

" I'll find him and I'll kill him."
  In the road the man smokes a pipe and after this relaxing
experience he says:
"wlll, perhaps I will not kill him, I will punch him..."

Hours latter, and after some pipe smoke, he says.

"The best thing I can do is invite him to smoke a pipe with me,
and talk about our problems..."

***Keep Tobacco Legal***


[ Good tale! It's important to keep the peaceful uses of the weed in
the public eye. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: to paul baumgartel re: drinks 

i have found that the proper drink with a cigar matches the cigar.  tonight i
has a romeo y julieta vintage III with absolut pepar as an iced shot.  it was
a perfect accompamiment
mark newman


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Back Issues

Dear Steve,

Once again, the Pipes Digest has impressed me.  After reading one particular
letter, I started thinking:  "Would Steve mind sending me some, if not all,
back issues of Pipes Digest?"  Would that be a problem, or would that wind up
costing you too much money to send all that info to me?  If there's any way,
please feel free to send all (or as many as possible) back issues of Pipes
Digest (1-178).

On to a completely different subject...

I feel it's time I officially introduce myself.  My real name is Brandon.
 I'm 18 years old and I've been smoking cigars for about a year now.  I'm
relatively new to all of this, so I'm quite naive (a trait that I hope will
change with maturity).  Initially, I signed onto this digest because I wanted
to learn more about quality cigars through another venue outside of "Cigar
Aficionado."  Now, I want to know everything there is to know about pipes.
 I've wanted to smoke a pipe since I was a little kid when I first smelled my
grandfather's cherry pipe tobacco.  Unfortunately, I have not smoked a pipe
yet because I want to learn more about pipe smoking before I invest my time
and money into it.  

Which leads me to an important question.  Personally, Steve, which type of
pipe (be it brand name or otherwise) do you suggest for a cool, dry smoke?
 I'm willing to spend up to $40-$50 for my first pipe.  Also, what brand of
tobacco is your favorite?  I think I'll probably be partial to light
aromatics and black cavendish.  Where should I buy tobacco (i.e. is it better
to buy tobacco at the local drug store or at a tobacco store?)  I would be
interested to hear other people's ideas on what kind of pipes and tobaccos
are good for beginners like me.  All in all, how much would a cool, dry pipe,
quality tobacco, and a pipe maintenance kit cost me?  Sorry I have so many
questions, but I'm a newbie.

Again, please allow me commend you and all the others involved in the digest
(readers included) on a job well done.  This is most definitely the most
pleasant place to be on the Internet :-)

Sincerely yours,

[ Well, Brandon, for $40-50 you could get a nice GBD shell briar,
brand new. Petersons seem to be a little costlier these days. I'd
recommend going to a tobacconist and getting a nice light vanilla or
cherry Cavendish; the drugstores make no special effort to keep their
stock fresh. Don't forget some cleaners and a pipe nail too. Back
issues should have reached you by now. Enjoy! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????? (Gerry Hilton)
Subject: Personal..need an address

Merry Christmas Steve....
        In the last issue of Pipes Digest #170, there was a fellow by the 
name of Ted Wagner who wrote in and said he had some Cookie Jar tobacco he 
wanted to sell. The address given was   ?????????????????  
        Could this be a misprint? I've tried several times to get through 
and got a message that reads no domain. I very interested in getting a hold 
of him or having him get a hold of me. If you've got a spare minute, could 
you check the address and get back to me? The tobacco sounds interesting.
        Thanks for your time in this.
                Regards.....   Gerry Hilton

         Gerry Hilton
         Nova Scotia             ??????????????????????
         Canada                   Ph / Fax 902-682-3194  

[ Ted's still on the list, and I haven't gotten any
bounces... possibly trouble with your mailer. Ted, can you reply
directly? -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #170 - Decem...

As an Airline Pilot and a Pipe Smoker (a respectable title) of 35 years, I
too am concerned with the increasing tendancy to prohibit any form of smoking
in our society.  I insist upon a "smoking room" in hotels, insist upon a
"smoking" rental car, and always sit in the smoking section of restaurants,
where state laws have not yet forbid that freedom.  I urge all of you to do
so as well, since the "lack of demand" for smoking facilities will hasten the
demise of its availability.  In airports, where there is no provision for a
smoking section, I feel free to create one (in a location that limits the
effect on others.)  I also have, on occassion, exceeded the 55MPH speed limit
and do not feel the guilt of an archcriminal for doing so.

Our society has such a plethora of laws that everyone in our society is in
one way or another guilty of some sort of violation.  I must confess to being
guilty of enjoying a good bowl of tobacco on occasion.

Lloyd H. Colvin

[ I'm not sure that's a constructive approach, Lloyd. "Creating" a
smoking area is a good way to tarnish the reputation of pipe
smokers. Rather, I'd suggest writing a letter to the airport
management, and the politicos who control it, to let them know your
views. Your status as a pilot will help.

One effective tactic would be to declare that, even though you might
occasionally be forced to use that particular airport, that you do so
under protest and as little as possible, and that you will not
purchase so much as one stick of gum from any concession in the
airport as long as they insist on bashing pipe smokers. And find
others who share your views, and persuade them to do likewise. -S. ]

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From: Joachim Posegga <??????????????????>
Subject: Digest Contrib

Dear all

as the work load tends to drop a bit over Xmas, I found some time to
write a couple of lines for the digest again.  This year was, in terms
of pipe buying, the most active year in my smoking career. Some of the
buys were inspired by the Pipe Digest and I would like to tell you a bit
about experiences I made. There is also one or another point I would
appreciate opinions/ideas.

A very interesting pipe I bought is a Loewe Apple with a Spigot
mount. Loewe pipes are quite hard to find, so I would guess that some
people are not even aware of this company. According to Hacker's book,
Emile Loewe was a French pipemaker who started a pipe making business in
London in 1856. Since then, Loewe pipes are produced in England.

I found the pipe itself with a method I developed here in Germany:
tobacconists are (compared to the US) very frequent here: in each
village of more than, say 20000 inhibintants you will find a shop.
These are usually no high-grade shops, just the sort of "tobacconist
around the corner".  Whenever I see one of these somewhere I go in and
ask whether they have any non-filter pipes. Usually this is not the
case; since the seventies the German pipe market is dominated (90 %) by
filter pipes. For some obscure reason, Germans insist on using 9mm
charcoal filters. However, now and then shops still have leftovers from
the sixties and seventies. These are often a real bargain: if you are
lucky, you can get excellent pipes for ridiculously little money; since
for the shop such pipes are just leftovers they haven't been able to
sell for 20 years.  The Loewe pipe was one of these bargains.

The pipe itself turned out to be a real beauty after polishing off the
last 20 years. As with most older, unused pipes, the stem deveopled an
ugly yellowisch-brown patina after the first smoke. I think this is due
to light exposuure for many years. After careful polishing it now looks
like new. The pipe is one of the 'slow starters': after smoking it about
30-40 times, it now just starts to develop a good taste. It is also not
particularly easy to smoke, as it easily goes out. I don't quite know
why, since an Apple-shape is usually an easy smoke -- but this one wants
to be taken seriously :-) Btw, if anyone knows a bit more about Loewe, I
would be interested in hearing it...

In the same shop, I bought another Apple: a Bauer meerschaum, again
about 20-30 years old. The pipe comes with an army-mount mouth piece,
which seems to me ideal for a meerschaum: the silver ring make the pipe
easier to handle, as you are not supposed to touch the bowl while
smoking. After smoking it (nearly) dayly for the last six mounths, it
now starts coloring a bit around the bottom of the bowl. I would have
expected this to happen a bit faster ... would anyone care to comment?
Futhermore, is it really necessary to follow the advise not to touch the
bowl when it is warm? I accidentally touched it now and then, but it did
not seem to have any effect so far.

Overall, meerschaums are really a nice smoke --- different from
briars. However, I personally would prefer a good briar if I had
to choose. Fortunately, I don't have to ...

Two non-bargain buys in this year have been Ashtons. After I read about
them in the Digest, I tried hard to find an Ashton pipe for several
months without success. Then I finally persuaded my local tobacconist to
order two or three samples from Ashton. He said the would not have any
influence on what he would get and he could not predict the price. I
guess this is what is called a sellers' market :-)

After two more months, he got a Billiard, an Apple, and a sand-blasted
Bent. Nothing really spectacular, but very nice pipes. Very English,
indeed.  Their finish was actually not the best: the non-sandblasted
pipes had a couple of spots where Ashton appearently forgot to put wax
on. I decided that I could live with this and took it as an opportunity
for bargaining. In the end I paid about US$ 180 for the Billiard.

Well, after the first two or three smokes, I went back and bouth the
Apple as well ... their taste is really convincing: already the first
smoke was great! I hope the blank spots will not color differently from
the rest of the pipe. Does anyone know what sort of wax Ashton are
using?  It seems to be harder that the wax on other pipes, which is
usually gone after few smokes. The Ashtons are still shiney, at least
partly :-(. Besides that the finish is not the best -which I heard is
not unusual for Ashtons- I would recommend them very much: in my
opinion, Ashtons smoke at least as good as Dunhills, for about half
thirds od the price.

The last pipe I would like to mention is a huge Peterson Billiard
(called "Kapet"); this was another of these
do-you-have-non-filter-leftovers buy I made in Stuttgart. Usually, I am
not so much into Petersons, since they tend to be rather big, which is
not my preference.  However, the price (US$ 40) convinced me
immediately. It smokes really great, but I did not get used to the
mouthpiece: I usually hold a pipe with my teeth a lot, and this is quite
impossible with the particular Peterson I bought. Maybe I will send it
in for a mouthpiece replacement...  Btw, the shank says "107", does
anyone knows which year this stands for?

Thanks for your patience & happy puffin..


[ Dang, and I didn't check out the shop in downtown Nuernberg! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????????
Subject: estate pipes?

The most recent digest mentioned collecting estate pipes and antiques.  
I've never heard of such a style.  Would any one care to elaborate?  I'm 
not asking for a clumsy ASCII estimation if a verbal description works 
just as well.
Neil Flatter                 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Chemistry - Math (CMA)       Department of Chemistry Stockroom Manager
Novell Supervisor            5500 Wabash Avenue 73
(812) 877 - 8316             Terre Haute, IN 47803-3999
 FAX: 877 - 3198             ???????????????????????????

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From: ????????????????? (Steve Beaty)
Subject: pipe pictures


	someone mentioned a couple of digests ago interest in having
	some pictures of pipes and pipe smokers online.  there is the
	beginning of a pipes picture gallery on the WWW page:


	there's only one picture so far, one sent by Mike Coan of
	Einstein; a propitious start...

Steve "When in doubt, logout" Beaty                         ?????????????????
Cray Computer Corporation                     ???????????????????????????????
1110 Bayfield Drive                  http://www.craycos.com/~beaty/steve.html
Colorado Springs, Colorado, 80906       tel (719) 540-4129 fax (719) 540-4028 

[ As a start, can someone with a scanner possibly provide Steve with
an image of the standard pipe shapes, or perhaps the pictures of
tobacco from Carl Ehwa's book? -S. ]

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From: Gord Ferguson <???????????????????>
Subject: Greetings !

Christmas Greetings from Toronto !
As a new member of the Digest I'd like to say Hi !
A warm fire, a good book and a pipeful of TinderBox House Blend pushes 
all the right buttons for me..with one addition..a disconnected phone 
<grin>.A little Bailey's Irish Cream doesn't hurt either. It seems as this 
hectic season barrels down on us we don't (or can't) find the time to sit 
down and enjoy a slow uninterupted smoke. I find an excuse for just about 
everything, however, I was just brought back to the enjoyment of the pipe.
I was doing the last minute power shopping thing when something snapped 
and I found myself sitting in the car in a crowded mall parking lot with 
my trusty bent bulldog in hand, trying to blow smoke rings at the 
rear-view mirror...just slightly short of insane..I couldn't believe how 
pleasant that few minutes to myself felt. For those who looked at me 
during those few insane moments, I apologize, but if you've never been at 
the point where the world has gone crazy, do yourself a favour and sit 
back, light up, and shut the world out. It feels so good that it must be 
taxable (only in Canada..<grin> )
I must commend all those involved with this Digest, I look forward to the 
arrival, and most certainly enjoy the reading.
As a professional firefighter of some 20 years, I must say have a Safe 
and Happy Christmas, try to stay on track with those New Years 
resolutions and check the batteries in your smoke detector (No pun 
Best Wishes

[ Good advice, as long as the detector doesn't have a direct line to
the government... in which case, I'd apply a 16-ounce hammer. :-) -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscri...

Thank you for the quick responds of the Pipe Digest.  I have been smoking a
pipe for a while, actually a NVA snipper changed my smoking habits (thanks to
him).  I am presently a student at MTSU, and will be grad. this summer.
 Several of us (non-traditional) students enjoy pipes, it's almost like a
club but we're reall busy with school to sit to long and chat.  I smoke 1Q
from Lane Tob. and collect GBD's (virgin's), Comoy's, Lorenno's, Savinrlli's
and Stanwell's.  The pipe shoppee here in Murfreesboro, Tn is ran by a person
who pushes Dunhill's and his form of mixture.  The nearest tobacco shop is in
Nashville, Tobacco Road Smoke Shop, Harding Mall, Nashville, Tn 37211 (615)
331-7139 proprietors ar Terry & Mary Pate (just to throw in a punch line for
Terry).  Well enough of this from me, would enjoy to hear from anyone else
out there in smoke land :-{q.  Another number for internet that I can be
contacted is ?????????????????, thanks again keep up the good work!
Semper Fi
The Gunny

[ I've put TRSS in the Guide. Thanks, Gunny! -S. ]

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From: "A.W. Donovan-Shead" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Smoke Signal #12

Smoke Signal #12
December 28, 1994

Now we will talk about the making of a humidor for pipe tobacco.
Practical and Inexpensive are the watchwords of this very small
project, for those among us of slender means, for those financially
challenged, for the impecunious, or even for those -- rich as
Croesus -- wanting to remind visitors to their palaces that they
really are the salt-of-the-Earth. Here, then, an humble humidor.

Georges Herment thought the smoker best served by savouring tobacco
in all its stages of humidity, from the perfection of the new broken
vacuum seal to the dried shreds of a week later. As a philosophy,
this is Jim-dandy for the heavy smoker, if I may use the vernacular,
but for many of us occasional puffers of the pipe, two ounces of
baccy can last for long, long while, becoming desiccated and
unpleasant if not stored properly. Received wisdom will bespeak the
relative humidity of tobacco best at 70%, 65 degrees Fahrenheit
being a good temperature for long-term storage. Uncle Fred will
suggest a slice of apple as a moisturiser for the tobacco pouch, but
Hacker strongly opposes this, his thesis proved by irrefutable
experience. When given Uncle Fred's treatment, Hacker's tobacco grew
a beard of white fungus that polluted the container as well, causing
new tobacco to be bearded in its lair in not much more time than it
took with apple at first. He had to discard tobacco and container to
be rid of the dead hand of apple. I agree with Hacker, eat apples
rather than making them lie in the same bed as your best baccy.
There is an easier way to maintain the moist springiness of your

Not only that, it is no secret either as you will see when you read
on. Use plastic, food-grade, reseal containers such as Tupperware or
Rubbermaid, or similar high-quality product if you are living
outside the United States. You could go to a Tupperware party,
however, Rubbermaid can be had for a few bucks at most large grocery
stores. My Rubbermaid container is round and of three cups capacity.
Into this I put my fresh tobacco. What will serve for pipe tobacco
will answer just as well for cigars, choose an airtight plastic
container to fit your smokes.

Even with your "smokeables" sealed in Tupperware, they will dry out
eventually through repeated opening and closing of the container.
Some people recommend adding a few drops of water or brandy, which
works but is not homogeneous humidification; some parts will be
wetter than others. You can buy a button humidifier if you can find
one. Instead, make one as I did out of a plastic pot one and one-
half inches in diameter by one-half inch thick.

First find your plastic pot. A good place to look is in your local
natural-foods-health-freak shop. In such a place, should you never
have entered, there are all manner of unguents, and goo for sale in
small quantities, packaged in just the kind of container you need,
plastic and rustproof. I found a plastic pot containing something
that looked like refined earwax, priced at around $2. Buying this,
I carried it home where I scraped out the "earwax" with the spoon
end of my pipe-tool, holding the pot under running hot to dissolve
and disperse the residue. Finally, I wiped it out and peeled off the
manufacturer's label from the lid.

Next, I marked the lid to receive several holes one-eighth of an
inch in diameter. Laying the open lid on a block of wood, holding it
in one hand, I drilled the hole pattern with my battery powered
drill. With this done, I needed a non splash medium for the

Unbeknownst to my wife, I raided her cosmetics' box, carrying away
a quantity of cotton-wool pads. Cutting these to fit, I stuffed the
pot with several. I wetted the cotton-wool with distilled water
before snapping shut the lid. Having done this, I then placed my
homemade humidifier with my tobacco, inside the Rubbermaid
container, making sure that the tobacco didn't come into direct
contact with the moist cotton through the holes in the lid. You
could be a flash cove by attaching the humidifier to the lid of the
Rubbermaid humidor by Velcro,  but I don't bother.

Fancier yet is the addition of a maximum and minimum hygrometer.
While not essential it is a neat device to add when you can spare
$25. You can buy these from Radio Shack for much less than Edmund

Now my tobacco stays moist without difficulty and I can enjoy my
occasional smoke without fear of drought. All this for less than
$10, not including an hygrometer.

Should you be new to smoking a pipe then consider the humble corn-
cob as a place to start. Missouri Meerschaum sell them for less than
$5. They smoke cool and dry and may be of most use to those who like
aromatic, heavily flavoured tobacco. At that price you could afford
to have several so as not to burn them out too quickly, for they
don't last like briar. Hacker tells us that the corn is a special
variety grown for its cob, more dense than usual. Once shucked of
its kernels, the cob is turned into a pipe and soaked in a secret
mix of plaster of paris, this to prevent it from burning out too
quickly. Corn cob is absorbant, more so than briar, and they are
easily grown, unlike briar. Kernels are sold to the tortilla chip
industry. Perhaps you expect the smoker of a corn cob to go
barefoot, clad in bib overall, wearing a straw hat? In a place like
Wall Street, you could be in the vanguard of fashion with your corn
cob, in your shirtsleeves and red suspenders on the floor of the
stock exchange, smoking a plug of "Elizabethan Mixture" or of
"Fragrant Anise". With corn cobs, a sixteenpenny flathead nail as a
pipe-tool, and a Rubbermaid humidor, your biggest expense will be
tobacco. And you could grow that if you consider Coltsfoot.

Well, we are smoking the dottle. In my next puff we will see what
the folks at Ted's have to say, if I can find their brochure. After
that I shall, I think, knock out the ash and take a back seat to
these proceedings.


[ Thanks, Andrew! From some discussion elsewhere, the spongy styrofoam
stuff that florists use to stick cut flowers in also works well as a
humidifying agent; one could replace the cotton wool with that,
too. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscri...

Dear Steve and Fellow Pipe-Fans:

I've been an avid pipesmoker for just under 20 years (I'm 40). I started off
on pipes as a way to spell my cigarette usage, and later to wean myself off
the sticks altogether. The was a time (about four yers ago) when I had well
over $500 worth of pipes, racks, humidors and related equipment; I went
through a two-year Puritan stint, and got rid of all of it. So now, after
trying abstinence and not liking it, I'm back on pipes with a much humbler
collection of pipes and related materials (OH well!). I still have a Comoy,
and Peterson bulldog from my fatter years, so I'm not altogether on "Tobacco
Road," as it were.

As for my tobacco tastes, well I'm afraid that I must admit to being among
the relatively "great unwashed;" I smoke a Vanilla aromatic suppliewd by
Dream Castle Tobacco Company, of Richmond, Va. 23224. I've tried English
blends, both mild and strong, I don't personally care for them. 

My attraction for pipes extends back into my early childhood; all the
pipesmokers I knew seemed to be intelligent and rational people, and I was
attracted to that. I was especially attracted to it, after I started
cigarettes, as it seemed that they were anything *but* relaxing! It took me a
few years to "grow" into a pipe, that is to feel that I wasn't some kind of
kid pretending to be a grownup; I guess turning 40 has a way of making you
feel that you're not pretending anymore! 

Anyway, I've read and enjoyed many of the digests in here, and look forward
to reading more. Also, if I may be heretical, anyone who happens to also like
and occasional pricey stogie and finds his/herself in downtown Chicago might
want to visit "Old Chicago Smoke Shop" on 10 South LaSalle Street ZipCode
60603 (Ph#: 1-800-621-1453); it's a friendly store with a great variety of

Happy Puffing,

Mario J. Trentanelli

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From: ?????????????????? (Antti Kalliokoski)
Subject: about this group and tobacco pouches

Hi Steve and all the pipesmokers in the net!

At first I thank You Steve for organizing and keeping this group. But after 
the thanks I will give my opinion concerning the organization of the group.
As a pipe smoker I'm not very enthusiasted in reading these stories about 
cigars and cigarettes. Could it be possible to organize the group according 
to various means of smoking? The main part of the mailing list is 
interesting and I wouldn't leave without it for any reason. But ...

The quotations of Ehwa's pipe-book have been quite interesting and I give my 
best regards to "Andrew ?????????????????" for providing these wonderful 
quotations, although I must say that ethically this kind of practise is "on 
the line". But I think it's O.K. because the book is so rare and difficult 
to get.

Thirdly I complain about the information we get from the tobacco 
pouches.Wouldn't it be interesting to know, what are these "Oriental 
tobaccos" we have for example in the Amphora Regular ("the brown pouche") in 
addition to Burley, Kentucky and Virginia. BTW, are these B- & K- & 
V-tobaccoes so unamigious? Does anybody have the information concerning 
Amphora Regular? 
I know that this mixture is not quite highly regarded among pipe tobaccoes, 
but it's not so easy to get all these Latakias etc. here "in the backside of 
Lord's ass".

        Waiting for the next list.

                Antti Kalliokoski, Finland

[ Well, Antti, I generally just send the submissions in the order I
receive them. Organizing them in the way you suggest would be a lot of
work, and somewhat prone to error. And there would be some that don't
fit anyway (from people who smoke both pipes and cigars, for

Perhaps I could suggest that readers put [CIGAR], [PIPE], [HOOKAH], or
whatever in their subject lines, to make it easier for other readers
to scan through the Digest? -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Add on to the digest.

I finally read the digest you sent, it was outstanding.
I also would like to add a listing for you, I cleared it with the owner.
Gene's Pipe Repair
514 Second Ave.
Murfreesboro, Tennessee 37130
(615) 896-2136 (anytime)

Gene repair's stem and pipes, also he has a collection of about 800 pipes of
various kinds (from dunhill to gbd's).  He has repaired quite a few for
myself, and does a great job!
Semper Fi

[ In the Guide it goes! Thanks! Just out of curiosity, are there any
other ex- or present Marines reading the Digest? -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: alt.smokers.pipes

 I have been downloading the file containing the messages from compuserve,
but would prefer to get it on  the aol.  I have not used the internet
connection before and am just starting to learn. Please excuse any errors or
faux pas which I may make.  I did notice the many messages about Escudo. I
smoked it many years ago and just went out to buy some.  Tried it again and
it was very good. To those who cannot get it you might suggest McBaren's Dark
Twist.  Much the same taste but just a little sweeter and not discontinued.
Thanks in advance.

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From: Kevin Cook <???????????????>
Subject: Pipes in Rochester?

I'll be in Rochester, NY for a day or two in late January and am 
wondering if anyone has any suggestions of a pipe shop that I should 
find while in town.  Since I'm a Canadian, I won't miss the chance to 
return to Canada with a pound of tobacco at a decent price AND 
duty-free.  I'll also float through Albany, NY and won't miss the chance 
to stop at The Smoker, one of my favourite places, and pick up some of 
their "Smoker" blend, an exceptionally rich English blend.  I've never 
smoked anything quite like this blend, which smells more like a campfire 
than a campfire does.   I have no idea what is in that blend to give it 
that flavour, although I suspect that if I try some of the McLelland 
blends that were mentioned in the last digest that I might find something 

To respond to another item mentioned in the last digest, I will volunteer 
that I too have had dreams about pipes.  I had my first one nearly 
immediately after I started smoking one.  Often I find myself on the deck 
of a ship, somewhere off the coast of Labrador, Canada (a place I have 
always wanted to visit), puffing away as happily as can be... 

Quite simply, there is something wonderful about smoking a pipe that is 
absolutely like nothing else.  My father smoked a pipe for a short while, 
but I remember him as a cigarette smoker, although he no longer smokes at 
all.  I suppose he never got to enjoy a pipe   that much, or he wouldn't 
have stopped, but I often find it strange that he never introduced me to 
it, whereas cigarettes were considered acceptable more or less.  I know 
that if had a family, I would much prefer that they smoke pipes than 

Anyway enough rambling for now, just wanted to find out if there's 
anything in Rochester, NY, didn't see anything in the resource guide.

Happy smoking all, and happy new year


Life is a test

Kevin Cook,
Computer animator, Montreal

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                                - From "101 Ways to Answer the
                                  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
                                  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #171 - January 1, 1995
  2. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscri...
  3. Subject: Pipes Digest #170 - December 23, 1994
  4. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #170 - December 23, 1994
  5. Subject: to paul baumgartel re: drinks
  6. Subject: Back Issues
  7. Subject: Personal..need an address
  8. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #170 - Decem...
  9. Subject: Digest Contrib
  10. Subject: estate pipes?
  11. Subject: pipe pictures
  12. Subject: Greetings !
  13. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscri...
  14. Subject: Smoke Signal #12
  15. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscri...
  16. Subject: about this group and tobacco pouches
  17. Subject: Add on to the digest.
  18. Subject: alt.smokers.pipes
  19. Subject: Pipes in Rochester?
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