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Subject: Pipes Digest #175 -- January 29, 1995

		Pipes Digest #175 -- January 29, 1995
		     Circulation this issue: 805

Welcome to new members:

	 Vince Callaway			(?????????????????)
	 Peter Berger			(?????????????????)
	 Timothy Ryan Kraemer		(?????????????????)
	 John T. Rehm			(???????????????????????????)
	 ???				(???????????????)
	 Ken Feaster			(?????????????????????)
	 John Eden			(??????????????????)
	 Samuel Freund			(???????????????????)
	 Ted Dziedzic			(??????????????????)
	 Bubbamike			(????????????????????)
	 Ardy Smith			(?????????????)
	 Midn. Brian D Engesser		(?????????????????????????????)
	 Steve Jones			(?????????????????)
	 Jeremy Witt			(????????????????????)
	 Lem Purcell			(??????????????????????)
	 R.J. Williamson		(???????????????????????????)
	 Ronald Robles Sundstrom	(??????????????????????????)

Announcements: Members in the St. Louis area should see Thomas
Hendricks' letter re a pipe club show coming up this week. Also see
Dr. John Weinstein's letter for news of the Capital Area Pipe Smokers
(northern Virginia and Washington, DC).

And join us for a peaceful smoke, as we contemplate worms,
Catholicism, the Napoleonic wars, the shape of things hopefully never
to come, and several other minor miracles, including the end of
lawsuits, the lighter side of life, and the death OF taxes...

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             Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
                        Call -- Write -- Vote
                        Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: ???????????????????????????? (Thomas A. Hendricks)
Subject: The Punchbowle...and then some...

Steve,
       After over one month of being away, I am ready to explode with messages
to pass on the Digest!  I shall, however, refrain from doing so and begin by
thanking Neil Murray for using all of the material I sent him in the most
recent A&M Gazette.
       I would also like to mention another pipe show which will take place
within the next two weeks.  The St. Louis Pipe Club is having their show in St.
Louis at the Stouffer Concourse Hotel February 3-5.  SLPC President Jay Milton
wrote me a letter saying that there will be approximately 40 tables and
displays set up by collectors.  I will post more details very soon...both here
and in alt.smokers.pipes.
       Next...the OTP (Other Tobacco Products--ie stuff that isn't cigarettes)
tax of 20% which has been in effect for over two years in Illinois is no longer
(at least for the time being)  I would like to thank my friends at
alt.smokers.cigars for confirming this one!!!
       Finally, a question...What can any of you tell me about a tinned tobacco
called "Punchbowle?"  I won this in a raffle drawing last October and have yet
to open it.  The tin has no real description of the tobacco composition, simply
"Barney's Tobacco in Full Strength"

Ahhh...that feels much better...
       Thomas A. Hendricks

[ Great news about the OTP tax, and thanks for the tip on the
St. Louis show! -S. ]


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From: "Weinstein, John, Dr, NSS" <????????????????????????????>
Subject: for the digest

Two items that might be of interest to our fellowship:  The Capital Area 
Pipe Smokers (CAPS) club was formed this past Autumn.  With 29 members from 
northern Virginia, D.C., and Maryland, the club meets every 4-6 weeks for 
dinner, a presentation, tobacco/cigar sampling, horse (and pipe) trading and 
a lot of good fellowship.  Those of you in the vicinity are invited to join 
and others who find themselves in the area are welcome to attend our 
meetings.  Contact me via e-mail or by phone at home (703-273-5737) for the 
date, time and location of our next meeting.  Second, JR Tobacco and Holt's 
(Philadelphia) have been running an extraordinary deal ($15.95) on the Zippo 
butane lighter.  Originally priced at $59.95, Zippo discontinued this model 
because it could not maintain quality at a reasonable cost.  The red lacquet 
lighter (Holt's offered red and tortoise but is sold out of the latter) is 
solid, attractive, and very well made.The company's famous lifetime warranty 
covers the product.  I imagine that this deal will not last long.  Despite 
being a long-time devotee of wooden matches, I bought two and have been very 
satisfied with this excellent bargain and product.

[ BTW, I followed up with John on this, and the Zippo is a cigarette
lighter; the better pipe lighters are much different in
construction. Cigarists, though, might take advantage. Thanks for the
tip!  Information like this is one of the special bonuses our members
get sometimes. :-) -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????????? (Art Gorski)
Subject: Cigar Web Pages

What with all the recent interest in the World Wide Web and discussion in
Pipes Digest #174 of cigar home pages, I thought I'd share with you all the
URL for my personal cigar page:

<ftp://ftp.neosoft.com/pub/users/a/agorski/cigar.html>

[ Edited at Art's correction -- hope it's right now! -S. ]

It's just a side page to my home page referenced in my signature below.
Perhaps one of the cigar home pages on the net could incorporate hypertext
links to personal cigar "autobiographies" like mine.  Just a thought...

---
Art Gorski                  UU mystic   cigar smoker  strategy gamer
???????????????????           /o)\    __________        __/  \__/  \
Houston, Texas                \(o/   (_{@}______|| ~~~    \  /  \  /
Home Page:  <ftp://ftp.neosoft.com/pub/users/a/agorski/default.html>

[ Already checked it out, Art -- interesting reading! -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Pipe Digest

Steve,
   As a fairly new Cigar lover, I have been searching the best ways to keep
my cigars.  At this point I use a tupperware with a small glass humidifier
which you twist the top for added moisture.  I went out and bought a
temp/humidity gauge at Radio Shack.  Someone said that tupperware is not good
since it does not absorb any of the moisture that a humidor would, thats why
they are unfinished on the inside.  Your input would be appreciated.

Also, I have been searching the antique shops and the consignment shops in
search of any Humidors. Its horrible to find that many antique shops turn
humidors into jewelry boxes by refinishing the inside. What a shame.  I came
across three table which the shop owners have told me they were humidors.  It
had a small cabnet on the bottom which was lined with copper?  The seal on
the door was not air tight and it did not appear that it would work well. 

I was wondering, is this a humidor for cigars or possibly pipe tobbacco??
 Have you heard of such humidors and how effective are they?  Why the
copper??

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

A Fellow Cigar Lover,
Chris Harris
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From: ?????????????????
Subject: New Pipes

Date: Tuesday, January 24, 1995
Time: 1:37 PM

I am looking at the possibility of a long law-suit coming to a conclusion in
the next few weeks. If, indeed, there is a settlement made I plan on
celebrating by buying one or two new Petersons. I would like to hear
suggestions as to reasonable prices to pay for the following modles:

Rhodesian Bent--Rustic 80s from the Emerald line

Dublin Smooth 120--from Emerald

'Army Spigot'--Large Rhodesian from the Spigot Range

Medium Bent Billiard Sytsem #314

Small Bent Billiard System #317

Canadian 264--from the Killarney line

Any suggestions on other good Peterson pipes welcome--any info on other
brands of pipes in the $50-$150 range welcome as well. My only bias as yet is
against Savinelli--haven't found one I really liked yet--don't like the
pre-carbonization either.

Thanks for the help!
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[ Good luck on the lawsuit, Chris, and let us know what you go with!
Off the top of my head, the Rhodesian might be nice. -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????? (Antti Kalliokoski)
Subject: e-mail address change and pipe care

-Greetings from the snowy Finland (Europe, Scandinavia)

[ Minor administrativa deleted. -S. ]

Then to pipes.

I accidentally lost the file wherein somebody recently asked advice about 
*how to clean the upper surface of pipe bowl*, so I can't refer to the name 
of the fellow pipe smoker, but in my humble opinion pipes are to age with 
their users. I personally like the changes pipes go through *when time goes 
bye* (wasn't it Casablanca and Bogart?). To me pipes are old pals; as I get 
older they are aging, too. Pipes acquire character. I have had pipes for 
about 30 years  now and must admit that the oldest of them have died for a 
long time ago. Of course the expected average living age of a pipe depends 
among other things the number of pipes you have. The more you have - the 
longer they live. To day I have about 20 pipes, so compared to a man who's 
got only one, the estimated life time of a pipe is 20 times longer.

BTW: Do the readers of this list have opinions about *the estimated living 
age of a pipe*?

So, I wouldn't worry about the extra surplus (I don't know the right 
expression for the phenomenon) atop your pipe's bowl. Instead, be proud of 
it: you are a pipe smoker, not a mannequin!

Lets look hopefully to the future despite all the nasty things that are 
happening around us. There are many things to enjoy, for example here in 
southern Finland days are already getting longer, the sun is above horizont 
after four a'clock, p.m. In the northern part of the country night still 
remains around the clock.

 Antti Kalliokoski, Europe, Scandinavia, Finland (?????????????)

[ IMHO, a properly cared for pipe should last forever. My experience
with _stems_, though, is that they last about five years -- except for
Peterson bits, which have yet to fail (knock wood!) -S. ]


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From: "A.W. Donovan-Shead" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Smoke Signal #13  [PIPE]

Smoke Signal #13
January 23, 1995
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To bypass this pipe related text search forward for the string:
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At the end of December I received some E-mail from Bob Hamlin of the
Pipe Collector's Club of America. I have Mr. Hamlin's permission to
reproduce it here:

FROM:     R.C. Hamlin, 71530,40
TO:       A.W. Donovan-Shead, 76326,3415
DATE:     12/30/94 3:03 AM

Re:  Escudo Pipe Tobacco Internet Digest Info

Thanks for the plug in the Pipe Digest #170 (re: Escudo), just to
update your information a little - I currently have 40 tins of
Escudo in-stock $7.95 per 50 grams. UPS ground shipping runs $6.00
per order (1 or 20 tins). (and) while I stock small "special orders"
from the jobber in Chicago, I do have an account with JBR for those
orders that are large enough to place directly with the importer of
Escudo.

Again, thanks for mentioning PCCA in the Digest!

-Bob 

In Smoke Signal #12 I remember promising to bring you a few tips
from the Folks at Ted's. I've been busy on other things. Now I can
spend some time with the Honourable Company of Pipe and Cigar
Smokers again.

In a recent issue of PD I noted a comment that a spate of flu and
the pipe don't go together, very true. However, I do remember that
my pipe smoking father was ill infrequently, a healthy man upon the
whole. My wife was recently afflicted with a severe cold, though we
sleep in the same bed I remained unaffected. Georges Herment said
that tobacco smoke is good as a vermifuge, at least, I think that is
what he said. I've never had trouble with worms, but I can say that
plaque on my teeth is less of a problem when smoking a pipe, and
that I was unaffected by my wife's contagion.

In the days when you could call for a pipe and call for a bowl and
call for fiddlers three, your pipe was a clay most likely. In #173
a question was: How to clean a clay? In those days of yore, clay
pipes were reused. Wealthy patrons of an ale-house would call for
new pipes, when the customer had finished with the pipe the landlord
of the inn would fire-clean the pipe and offer it to the less
affluent customer. Next time you clean your oven, try putting your
clay pipe in there for a modern fire-cleaning.

In London in the 50s, my father was a teacher at Linden Lodge School
for the Blind and partially sighted. He had a pottery there where he
and the kids made pots and did other arts and crafts. New pottery
was left to dry in the drying-room. When there was sufficient
quantity of pots, he would load the kiln, which was about the size
of a large oven, and fire the pots. A process that took about a
week, during which he would bring it up to temperature slowly in
stages. In those days he used ceramic-cone pyrometers that he loaded
with the pots. I recall looking through the spy-hole at the radiant
interior of the kiln. When the temperature was correct the tip of
the cones would droop over. Correct temperature control is important 
for the glazes. Anyway, after the correct temperatures obtained he
would shut off the gas and allow the kiln to cool over a period of
several days before unloading. All these precautions are necessary
with new pottery to prevent sudden cracks. Every household has a
kiln in the shape of an oven in the kitchen. Try cleaning an old
clay in your oven and see if it answers. Report your results here.

In a recent number a chap reported being harassed for smoking a pipe
by people claiming that his tobacco smelt worse than camel dung.
Proper riposte to snide remarks such as this is: "Have you smelt
camel dung, ever?"

De gustibus non disputandum est: There's no disputing taste.
Singularly apt, I thought, when talking of pipes, tobacco, and
cigars.

In #174 I wondered what shape the smoke would form rising from the
bowl of a pipe puffed by one working in the field of nuclear weapons
command and control.

Well now, let's go into Ted's and read what they have to say about
smoking a pipe: "Smoking a pipe is easy. your smoking enjoyment will
be greatly enhanced if you follow some simple rules.

"Select a good pipe. Whether made of clay, meerschaum, or briar,
your pipe should be well made of aged and porous material. A cheaply
made pipe of inferior materials will seldom provide anything but an
inferior smoke

"Keep in mind that a pipe is an investment. Unlike cigarettes or
cigars, your pipe will reward you with many years of smoking
pleasure if it is well made and cared for.

"Fill your pipe in three pinches of tobacco until you get used to
filling it properly. The first pinch at the bottom of the bowl
should be barely tamped down. The second should be slightly firmer,
and the third firm enough to level the top of the tobacco with the
rim of the bowl. This procedure will result in the tobacco being
fairly evenly packed from top to bottom of the bowl.

"When properly filled, you should feel little or no resistance when
you draw on the pipe.

"With a new pipe, we recommend that you only fill the bowl about a
third full for the first three or four smokings, then half full for
another few smokings, and then you may fully load the bowl.

"It is important to break in a new pipe by smoking it all the way to
the bottom the first several times.

"Lighting your pipe right with the first match will greatly enhance
your smoking pleasure. Circle the entire bowl with the flame, making
sure the top layer is burning evenly. Then lightly tamp it down, as
the tobacco will curl and rise with the first lighting.

"Relight and gently puff. Do not pull as with a cigarette. You
should puff gently and slowly to fully savor the flavor. There is no
need to inhale.

"Good pipe tobacco contains no additives (such as saltpeter or any
of a whole list of adulterants added to most mass-market cigarettes)
to facilitate burning. Your pipe may go out two or three times
during a smoke, but matches or [sic] cheap, so just tamp and
relight."

An aside: Better than matches, I feel, is a butane lighter. I don't
like the taste of burning match-wood. Imco is an Austrian brand of
pipe-lighter that I like, a chrome and plastic device about three
inches long. Very effective and cheap at $10. You can refill it from 
the pressurised butane fuel cans made by Zeus of England, available
here in the U.S.

"Rarely can anyone consistently smoke a pipe to the very bottom of
the bowl so that nothing remains but white ash. The last bit of
tobacco (called the dottle) usually becomes too moist to burn well.
This moisture is the result of condensation from the burning
tobacco."

An aside: In England, in the RAF at least, you could hear people
refer to a particular task as: It's a dottle. Meaning that it was
easy, no sweat.

"When repeated efforts to relight near the bottom of the bowl fail
to overcome the moisture, use a pipe tool to gently remove the
dottle, or grasp the pipe BY THE BOWL and lightly tap against the
palm of your hand to remove the last ash and dottle. Do not hold the
pipe by the stem and rap it against a hard surface or you may break
the stem or crack the shank of your pipe.

"A good smoke can be heavenly, and, where pipes are concerned,
cleanliness is next to heavenliness. Use pipe cleaners religiously
and your pipe will reward you with a sweet cool smoke.

"Neglecting proper cleaning immediately after a smoke can result in
the bowl turning sour from the moist residues which adhere to the
bottom and in the shank.

"For appearance, a little brandy (or your favorite liqueur) on a
soft cloth may be used to clean the rim of the bowl, and passing a
brandy-wet pipe cleaner through the stem can often sweeten a soured
stem.

"Some pipes, once soured, can never be restored to proper smoking
condition. Keep them clean!

"When the caked carbon in the bowl becomes the thickness of a
Nickel, it is time to ream. Come see us for the proper tool and some
instruction.

"Give your pipes a rest. The pipe is made of porous material which
allows it to smoke well because it absorbs flavor from the tobacco
and dissipates heat through the pores. If you over smoke your pipe,
the pores become clogged and the bowl becomes saturated with
residues.

"Not only will such a condition ruin the flavor of the smoke, but
the pipe will smell foul to those around you (even when not lit).

"You will need more than a single pipe to smoke regularly. With
several pipes, individual pipes can be resting a day or two while
you  rotate the duty among your others.

"A well cared for pipe can last a lifetime, so treat it well and you
will have a friend for life.

"If your pipe bites or burns your mouth, you may be smoking too
vigorously, or your choice of tobacco may simply be too strong or
hot-burning. Let us recommend a milder and cooler blend -- and take
it easy!

"New pipes need to be broken in, and the time required varies
greatly between pipes and smokers. Meerschaum or meerschaum-lined
pipes smoke well almost immediately, but a briar pipe may take
months before it yields the superb smoke they are famous for. Be
patient, and let us advise you.

"Have fun with your pipes. Pipes and pipe smokers, much like wines
and their connoisseurs, are steeped in romance. So try different
tobacco blends and differently styled pipes.

"Reading and pipe smoking seem made for each other. There is nothing
like a Sherlock Holmes mystery or a couple of chapters from 'The
Hobbit' or the Tolkien 'Ring Trilogy' to get you in the mood for a
relaxing and satisfying smoke from your pipe.

"Perhaps that is why pipe smokers seem to be a better class of
people."

Here, here! Certainly more tolerant. Recently, I have been reading
Patrick O'Brian's seafaring novels set during the Napoleonic Wars.
He was describing an action in the Mediterranean in which two ships
were at close-quarters exchanging broadsides, the ships were
obscured by clouds of smoke from the cannon fire. So furious an
action that I couldn't read the print for the smoke. I got a bit
carried away and had to put down my pipe. O'Brian is a prodigous
fine writer that I recommend to you, but if you are at ease with the
likes of Sidney Sheldon then you'll find O'Brian overpowering.

Are you bothered by a wet-smoking pipe? Let me remind you of a trick
that works, mentioned by Hacker in his pipe book. When your pipe
starts to "hubble bubble toil and trouble," take a pipe cleaner and
run it down to the bowl through the stem, withdraw it, retamp, and
carry on smoking. It does work.

Mr. Walborn, I appreciate your appreciation, you are most welcome.
Presently I am working up some material for another puff or two and
shall, perhaps, wax philosophical although I'm no apologist, unlike
Mr. Akin.

Catholicism seems to produce philosophers. Frederick Copleston
started writing a presentation of the development of philosophy for
Catholic seminary students, it turned into a nine volume juggernaut.
Philosophy and pipes go together well, take this and mix it with a
good professor for a lot of fun.

Andrew
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[ Re John Weinstein's position, you've got _me_ wondering too! -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????????????? (natalia bykova)
Subject: thank you

dear steve!

i'm so glad and excited, as those addresses you gave in the previous digest
they start to work! thank you for the second digest either.
thank you so much for the help! i hope it'll be a good paper. i'll write a
kind of dedication at the beginning to you and all those guys who helped me.

the address of the tobacco museum in vienna:
austria, wien-1070
mariahilferstrasse 2.
t.# (0222)961716
open hours:
tue. 10:00 a.m.- 7:00 p.m.
wed-fri 10:00 a.m.- 3:00 p.m.
sat-sun 9:00 a.m.- 1:00 p.m.
entrance fee 20 austrian shillings, it's about us$2.

i wish i could be in more use.

hope to hear from you.
natasha

[ You've been a great help, Natasha! Thanks! -S. ]


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From: ???????????????
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #174

Greetings to all.
Just a few words..
1)  to Boaz..." what a great poem ! "
2)  re. an inexpensive humidor...  I recently purchased a box of AyC cigars,
and on the back ( the ONLY reason I bought them )  was an offer for a cigar
humidor. The copy reads:
"A Very Special Imported Wood Chest Humidor-
  This humidor with a retail value of over $40 is available to you for $21.95
( shipping and handling are included ) plus a bonus of $4.45 of coupons good
on future purchases af AyC Cigars and free cigar offer.
   Actual size 11 3/4 x 8 1/2 x 5" 
- insure the freshest cigars for your smoking enjoyment.
To recieve this special humidor and coupons, see the order form printed on
the inside of this pack."
It has a limit of 3 humidor chests and requires you to fill out an official
order form. I beleive mine came from a box of Greniediers (sp?) but I
couldn't swear to it.
Two questions, of course popped immediately to mind:
one was- how good could a humidor be if it normally retails for  only $40.00.
and secondly, how much humidor do you need to store cigars that are
hermetically sealed in plastic bags and laced with enough preservatives to
keep Tut-ankh-amin in smokes well into the afterlife?
Keeping this in mind, I intend to purchase one anyway as I have always wanted
a humidor and needing to keep well within budget, as I woefully have learned
that my company was unaware of my single and childless status and thus has
had me listed as having TWO dependents on my w4 form.  Forgive me, fair
smokers, for weeping on your smoking jackets sleeves,but a quick, careful
examination of my E-Z form has lead me to the inexorable conclusion that this
bit of corporate incompetence will require my parting with
no less than $902 dollars. ( and may I say...I hope this buys Bill and
Hillary many fine style and blow dries :-(  and much hair spray for Speaker
Newt.
Farewell from Cols. OH , and I will keep you informed of my humidorean
adventures.
GideonH


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From: ???????????????
Subject: Cleaning and Re-Fitting Stems

Hello Fellow Puffers:

???????????????????? - asked in the last Pipe Digest how to recondition pipe
stems and also re-fit them so that they are no longer loose. Here goes:

For cleaning, if the stem has any logo on it, cover it up with a little
vaseline or chapstick to protect it. Then place the stems in straight
household bleach (yes! Clorox!) this removes any oxidation (yucky brown
crap.) The bits will fizz a little, let them sit for about an hour. Remove
them and rinse extremely well. Then use a polish to bring back the lustre. I
use Simichrome polish found in motorcycle shops. One note... on some very old
and oxidized stems, this procedure will produce a rough surface which is very
difficult to buff out by hand. If this happens, take it to your local pipe
shop or local jeweler and have them buff it up with rouge wax. If you don't
have access to this, try rouge wax on a buffing wheel with a Dremel Hand
tool.

Re-sizing the bit is a little tricky. Hold the ferrule end of the stem high
over a candle to heat the vulcanite (be careful.) Then press the ferrule end
on a hard surface to "smoosh" the end, (do this slowly.) Don't go to far with
this, try a little bit at a time. If you go too far you can sand down the end
to a perfect fit. I've done this to about five pipe stems with out any
complications.

Hope this helps,
Steven Banks
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From: ???????????????
Subject: Pipe Part Correction...

 In the notes on pipe stem re-fitting I spoke of the "ferrule," that is not
the part that I had in mind. What I was refering to is actually the "tenon."
The part which fits into the "ferrule." Hope this didn't cause any confusion.

I also think that where you got crossed up in your "boil in alcohol," was
probably in reference to boiling the inside of the bowl, which is a practice
used to clean out all of the tars "after" you have reamed out excess carbon
deposits. How I do this is take some Isopropyl Alcohol (rubbing alcohol) and
boil it in the microwave for a few seconds, then carefully pour this into the
bowl of the pipe. The pipe should have it's stem removed and should be held
at an angle so that the alcohol doesn't pour out the other end (I sit it in a
cup.) Let this sit in the pipe for about an hour. Pour it out via the shank,
and then swab with bristle pipe cleaners in the shank until they come out as
clean as they go in. And use a rag to twist inside the bowl. Make sure you
don't get any alcohol on the outside of the pipe, the alcohol will remove any
polish or finish.

Steve Banks

[ We should remind our readers NOT to do this if the pipe has any
metal parts! Ever seen a pipe explode? -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Submission for next digest

Steve:

Shortly after I started smoking a pipe, I asked the tobacconist (a pipe
smoker of many years) to recommend a nonaromatic, on the theory that real men
only smoke English blends.  He handed me a can of Rattray's Red Raparee.  I
took it home, smoked one bowlful, brought it back to the store and told the
tobbaconist he could have it.  Now, several months later, I have tried it
again (after smoking lots of really sweet stuff in the meantime).  I was
surprised to find that it wasn't as revolting as I remembered, although  I
still can't say it's my favorite (I've taken a real liking to Dunhill's Black
Aromatic--I suppose that's at least semi-respectable.)  What does the group
think of this tobacco?  What are the other Rattray blends (and nonblends, I
guess) like?  How long does it take to get used to these blends?
I was surprised that I didn't like the Raparee the first time I tried it,
because I love full-bodied cigars, like the new Avo series (bloody expensive,
but darned tasty).  The Latakia just seems to have a very different flavor
from anything I'm used to.  By the way, I'm sure they don't cure it with
camel dung anymore, but how do they do it?

My tobacconist also wants to know (I posted this message on alt.pipes and
alt.cigars, but haven't yet checked for answers) if anyone has smoked a blend
from England called "Astley's" or something like that.  He apparently used to
order it by the pound wtih a buddy of his, but it's gotten so expensive he's
had to abandon the practice.

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From: Andy Wallace <??????????????>
Subject: Falcons!

        Greetings, Mr. Masticola, and everyone else. I host a pipe
smoking message conference on the WWIVNet BBS network. If any of you are
on WWIV BBSes, please ask your SysOp to subscribe to THE BRIAR BOWL. The
subtype is BRIAR, and the host is @9201, and auto-requestable. (He/She
will know what that means!)
 
        I thought that might be relevant, because I've been enjoying the
Pipe Digests as messages uploaded by one of our subscribers on The Briar
Bowl...so you see, I've been "lurking" without Internet access! This
person was kind enough to upload some of my replies to the Digest before
I recently received access, though the formatting came out strangely...
 
        By the way, I think your separator:

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        u/~ u/~ u/~ u/~ u/~ u/~ u/~ u/~ u/~ u/~ u/~ u/~ u/~ u/~
 
        <grin>
 
        By way of introduction...... I'm 30, and just started smoking a
pipe a year ago. I was in a local drug store, looking for some
last-minute supplies around Christmastime. I had passed the pipe tobacco
section for years and had always liked the smell. In fact, when I first
started driving I thought a bag of pipe tobacco would make a nice car
air freshener! Anyway, I said, "what the heck," and bought some Ultra
Lite (generic) tobacco, a Missouri Meerschaum corncob pipe, some
filters, and a Zippo pipe lighter.
 
        [shimmering flashback effect]
 
        When I was a kid, my uncle Gardner smoked a pipe. I would always
welcome his visits, not because he was especially nice to me, but
because of the smell of his pipe. My parents both smoked cigarettes, and
except for one trial at age 12 with Marlboros, I never had the urge to
get cigarette smoke in my lungs. But I always liked the way the place
smelled when Gardner was there.
 
        [shimmering back-to-normal effect]
 
        Well, I tried the corncob pipe out... I decided very quickly
that I liked it. I used that for a while, trying all kinds of different
tobaccos. Somehow, I got on the mailing list of Thompson Cigar in FL,
even before I started with the pipe. I dug the catalog out, and found
something intriguing: a Falcon pipe. From the description, it seems as
if the Falcon smokes cooler, and keeps much of the poisons out of your
mouth. So, I ordered one. When it arrived, I couldn't resist trying it
out right away... It is WONDERFUL. The detachable bowl makes cleaning
very easy -- just run the metal stem under very hot water and finish
with pipe cleaner fluid. This sort of thing has got to be healthier for
you. Here's the Thompson number; ask for a catalog:
 
        Thompson Cigar (mail order tobacco stuff) 1-800-237-2559
 
I haven't ordered another Falcon from them, but I believe they still
carry four styles. They also have cigars and other pipes, of course. A
friend of mine wanted to get me a green Big Ben pipe we had admired all
year, but by this past Christmas it was no longer being carried.
 
        I've tried many tobaccos in the Falcon, but one of the following
places really impressed me:
 
        Pipeworks & Wilke, custom pipes, tobacco: 1-800-832-8309
 
I think I heard about it through one of the Digests. Unfortunately, I
don't know if they're at the same number or not -- didn't someone here
say they were shifting business again? I shall have to call them and
order some more of their GlenEagle whiskey tobacco.
 
        I would say that my overall favorite has been a toasted
Cavendish style. I find that very mild. The whiskey reminds me more of
my Uncle's pipesmoke though. Unfortunately he passed away a while ago
and nobody seems to remember what brand he had smoked. I smoke less than
once a day, and occasionally skip a whole week. In the warm months, I
smoked in the back stairwell, though with Winter here I have been
puffing away in the living room. (After spending hours cleaning nicotine
off tube ham rigs [my other hobby] I'd rather not add my own layer to
things...)
 
        I wrote to Falcon direct last Fall, trying to find some other
U.S. distributor besides Thompson. They forwarded my letter to The New
Gesty (their main distributor in the U.S.), who told me that Arnold's in
NYC carries the Falcon line. Here's the info I got:
 
                        ----------------
 
        ARNOLD'S TOBACCO SHOP in NYC. (212) 697-1477 and yes they do
mail order but no, they don't have a catalog. Gesty's forwarded a
mini-flyer and price list showing a dozen pipes and some bowls.
 
        THE BLOCK MEERSCHAUM BOWLS HAVE BEEN DISCONTINUED.  :'-(
 
        I got a Falcon Hunter Bent (brown anodized) and a large Snifter
shaped bowl to go with it. Including the $4 shipping, this cost me about
$49! But it DOES seem to be the same price as the four-choice
selection through Thompson.
 
        Here are some highlights:
 
        Standard bent or straight:      $28
        "             bowl only:         17
        Standard STEM ONLY               12
        Hunter straight or bent:         38   (black or brown)
        "             bowl only:         24
        Classic bent:                    36
          (this appears to be a Standard bent silver with a large
          Snifter or etc. bowl)
        Classic (large) bowl only:       24
        Meerschaum lined pipe            36
        "          bowl only             24
        International filter pipe        38
        Alco filter pipe                 26
 
        I've rounded prices off.
 
                        -----------------
 
        That was a few months ago, so I would verify things before
sending your money along. The Hunter Falcon arrived (though it turns out
they couldn't get brown, so I got a black stem) and I have been enjoying
it ever since.
 
        I did try Bengal Slices after reading about them in the Digests.
You people really get my curiosity going! [I'm the same way with world
beers.]
 
        Well, I've gone on long enough for this first post, but I hope
to be joining you regularly. I've just been itching to get that Falcon
info off to you -- it sounded like they were hard to get. Feel free to
reply direct if you would rather, to "??????????????". I wonder if I'm
the only 30ish nonsmoker here who made a conscious decision to start on
a pipe?
 
--Andy

[ Sorry, Andy, I don't get it about the separator... but thanks for
the news! -S. ]


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From: "Weinstein, John, Dr, NSS" <????????????????????????????>
Subject: back issues

Steve-

[ Administrativa deleted. -S. ]

Also, when you get a chance, i'd like to hear a little more about the
origin and characteristics of this operation. How many members, their
distribution, number of foreign readers, how long have you been doing
this, etc.  I'm thoroughly enjoying my subscription to PD and am
learning a lot.  Thanks for your efforts.

73 - John

[ Well, the circulation is printed at the top of every issue (805 this
one), and they're spread all over the world, but concentrating in the
USA. Probably about 25% of the readership is outside the USA, though I
haven't checked rigorously. I've been running the Digest for 7 years
now; it started in 1988, when Elias Mazur proposed a rec.pipes Usenet
group (and regrettably got flamed badly for it.) The membership has
had a big boost due to two recent developments: the introduction of
public access services like Netcom, AOL, and Delphi, and the creation
of the alt.smokers subhierarchy (and the periodic announcements on it.) 
...-.-  . ... .   .  . -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????
Subject: Answer to Jim Clark #174

Steve,

In answer to Jim Clark's request for a good English Blend to try (#174) I 
would suggest something like Dunhill's Elizabethan Blend, or perhaps 
Dunhill's Royal Yacht (a little more toward an aromatic IMHO).

Personally, I like Dunhill's Nightcap about the best, but this is what I 
would call a very full bodied (and strong but of good taste) tobacco. But 
then I do tend to favor the full bodied English Oriental blends.

Hope this is of some use Jim ... Let me know.

Best,

Gary R. Graham           | "I dont think we're in Kansas anymore....
????????????????????     |


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From: ???????????????
Subject: Hi Everybody!

Hey Steve, thanks for the subscription..

Thought I would take a second to introduce myself.  My name is Dominic W.
Silla   I am 31...32 in a month and live in Atlantic City, NJ...I am an avid
cigar smoker and have been for about 7 years.  Being in the Casino business I
enjoy many "good smoke" consverations with fellow workers and players from
around the world.  On occasion some of our more traveled and thoughtful
players remember me when abroad and, on a return trip, treat me to a great
smoke or two. Recently, I had the pleasure of relaxing (after a fabulous
Italian dinner) with a Romeo Y Julieta - Churchill. and a double expresso.
 Take my word for it......If  "the white light" appeared at that moment, I
would have been ready!     

Looking foward to many issues.

Sincerely,

Dominic W. Silla  a.k.a.  ????????????????


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From: "J.D. Jenkins" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: New Homepage

Mr. Masticola,

I enjoy reading the Pipe Digest.  Thanks for sending it.

I notice you mentioned a few cigar homepages.

I run a wholesale/retail and mailorder tobacco shop(s) in Tennessee.  
We too have a homepage, http://ww.charm.net/~ibc/ibc2/smokin.html.

In addition we advertise on Compuserve and AOL.  We can be reached on
Compuserve at 76357,2025, via Internet 76357,????????????????????  On
AOL we can be reached at JenkinsJD.

We carry a complete line of premium cigars, pipes and pipe tobacco.

I would appreciate an mention you might give us in your next Pipe
Digest.

Thanks
J.D. Jenkins
Smokin Joes 

[ I'll check it out, and put it in the Guide, J.D.! I think this is an
exciting development, and look forward to the day when we can browse
through pipe shops over the Web. Any other retailers who wish to
announce homepages may do so here, subject to the Digest advertising
policy, which is part of the new member package. Essentially stated,
that is: money-making operations get one insert only in the Digest,
but permanent inclusion in the Guide. -S. ]


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From: ????????????????
Subject: Yet more stuff [PIPES]

Dear Steve:

Just got through perusing the last 2 digests.  As usual, I was just gonna
read 'em, but ended up finding a few things I wanted to comment on (my
friends know how difficult it is for me to keep my mouth shut!).  First off -
greetings to our pipe-smoking compatriots abroad.  It's great to be in
contact with like-minded folk in other countries, and being a confirmed 
Europhile I especially enjoy hearing from our European correspondents.  My
German-Czech-Danish-Swedish ancestry along with my interest in history and
culture (my other great interests besides pipes are World War II and
classical music - among other things I'm a composer) makes me gravitate
towards pipe smoking and things European.  Which brings me to my 1st topic...

In past digests I've seen postings about the fact that pipes in Europe
generally are made for 9 mm. filters.  This brings to mind an experience I
had.  Back in 1986 I had the pleasure of visiting Scandinavia.  While
inCopenhagen I visited the Poul Hansen pipe shop, where I acquired a
beautiful Stanwell.  Problem was that the Danes share the Germans'
preoccupation with these filters, hence the tenon of the stem was hollowed
out.  What I did was take it to the Tinder Box (the original one in the
Peoples' Republic of Santa Mania), and had the pipe repair guys put a
vulcanite insert into the filter chamber.  The insert then had a draft hole
drilled into it and voila! - the stem became the conventional non-filter
variety.  This has worked very well and is quite useful since it not only
fills up all that space, but strengthens the tenon.  I suspect that if I left
it as it was the stem would've broken easily.  I offer this as a suggestion
to anyone who buys a pipe in Europe, including those of you living there.  If
you don't have access to a shop that does repairs you could send the pipe to
Nikos Levin (NML Pipes Direct - see the Resource Guide), since his pipe
repairer should be able to do the job.  Personally I would welcome acquiring
pieces that one can't find here in the 
States (especially a German pipe or two, as I have seen some very nice work
by German pipemakers), and I wouldn't let the filter aspect deter me from
doing so since I know this modification is practical and doable.

In #173 Ian at Western Michigan U. had a question on pipe reconditioning.
 I'll share a technique which I picked up from an old Pipe Smoker magazine
from the mid-80s.  The needed ingredients are:  salt (non-iodized), pure
grain (ethyl) alcohol and something to plug the shank (preferably a rubber
stopper).  First remove the stem from the pipe, then plug the end of the
shank.  Fill the tobacco chamber with salt, but only up to about 1/8" from
the top of the bowl. Then CAREFULLY put in the grain alcohol until it comes
to just below the top
of the bowl.  Be careful not to let the alcohol slop out of the bowl since
this could affect the finish (especially if the wood is stained).  Put the
pipe someplace where it will stay upright and not tip over.  Let the pipe sit
for a minimum of 2 days (I prefer a week), then empty out the salt.  

What happens is that the alcohol gets into the wood and dissolves the tars
and other crud that is in the wood.  The salt then draws the alcohol back
out, where it evaporates leaving the residue behind in the salt.  What you'll
get is a hardpan of salt at the top, the color of which will be anything from
light brown to almost black, depending on how much has accumulated in the
pipe.  When you empty out the salt you'll need to use a pipe tool or nail to
break up the hardpan.  The interesteing thing is the salt below this crust
will pour out as though it had never been exposed to moisture.  After you
empty the bowl use a pipe tool (or your finger) to clean out any remaining
grains of salt.  Also run a pipe cleaner through the draft hole to clear it
of any salt in there.  Please note that this method does not disturb the
carbon cake in the tobacco chamber.

There are a couple of important things to know about the alcohol.  Firstly,
it must be ethyl (grain or potato) alcohol, NOT denatured, methyl or
isopropyl as these are toxic.  Secondly, it must be pure.  Spirits such as
Bourbon, Vodka, etc. contain too much water and are therefore not nearly as
effective.  Introducing all that water is also not going to do your pipes any
good, and in fact pure alcohol will take out any excessive moisture bound up
in the wood.  This helps with pipes that have become "wet" smokes before the
treatment.  I have used this technique often, and it works VERY well -
especially if you're trying to revive a pipe that's gone sour.  I also
recommend it as "preventive maintenance" on pipes just to keep 'em smoking
nicely.  How often you do it is up to you, but I do mine about every 10
years.  BTW - getting the pure stuff can be a problem if you live in a state
that prohibits the sale of grain alcohol in liquor stores (such as here in
California.  And we're supposed to be the party state!  Go figure!).  If this
is the case contact your local chemical companies, or if you're lucky enough
to have access to biomedical facilities, a lot of labs use ethyl alcohol.  If
all else fails you'll have to get it from a state where its sale is legal.
 For example next time you or someone you know goes to Lost Wages (oops!  I
mean Las Vegas) or anywhere else in Nevada you'll be able to waltz into a
liquor store and buy it (Ever-Clear is a common brand name).

It's my understanding that Nikos Levin's pipes are reconditioned by boiling
the alcohol through the pipes with some kind of retort-type apparatus.  I
prefer my method, however, because it's slower and therefore probably does a
more thorough job of taking the gunk out. The last part of refurbishing a
pipe involves cleaning up the stem.  The bleach treatment was detailed in the
last digest (#174), so I won't repeat it here.  While the Simichrome idea is
good, the better followup would be to have the stem buffed and waxed on a
buffing wheel.  I have found that using this process will restore an old
vulcanite stem to its original black color, whereas buffing without the
bleach treatment is not effective in entirely removing the discoloration.
 For those of you who would buff the stems out yourselves:  Mr. Masticola was
correct in saying that a bench grinder is much better than a Dremel tool for
buffing stems.  The only problem, however, is that grinders are usually too
high in the rpms.  The preferred way would be to buy an old electric motor
(preferably double-axeled) - they can easily be found at places that repair
washers and dryers.  With a couple of cotton buffing wheels, some Tripoli
compound and Carnauba wax you'll be able to buff your own pipes and stems (be
sure to securely mount the motor on a bench first, though).  

And now on to toback.  In #173 Stephen (?????????????????????) was discussing
Erinmore Flake.  I've found generally that pipes smokers either love or hate
Erinmore - as for me it is one that I really enjoy.  If he owns a meerschaum
I highly recommend that he try it in that, rather than a briar.  I have 3
sets of pipes I smoke in rotation:  1 set of briars for aromatics, another
for English/Oriental blends, and my meerschaums with which I smoke only
straight Virginias and flake tobaccos, such as Erinmore, Escudo, Capstan,
etc.  For 
some reason I find that meerschaum brings out the qualities of these kinds of
tobaccos better than briar, whereas briar seems to be better for the English
and flavored aromatic blends.  Since the pipe becomes imbued with the
characteristics of the tobacco smoked in it the idea of having seperate
rotations of pipes for the different general groups of tobaccos makes sense.
 Alas, I digress...

Back to Erinmore.  The Erinmore tobaccos are flavored with pineapple juice
(!), hence the pineapple in their logo.  In '87 I visited Nova Scotia.  At a
store in Halifax I found a pouch of Erinmore "Mild and Mellow", which was
somewhat similar to their flake.  I've yet to see it anywhere here, which is
too bad, because I really liked it.  I smoked the Erinmore Mixture years ago.
 From what I recall it was also similar to the flake, but was a loose
tobacco.  And I'm sorry Mr. Masticola, but it's nothing like Brindley's
Mixture, which is a burley-based mixture.  It has about as much flavor as
sawdust and is generally awful.

On the subject of cleaning clays Mr. Hacker is correct.  In fact the embers
of a fire will be hot enough to turn the clay back to its original white
without being so hot as to crack the bowl (which I did once putting a clay on
my gas stove).  Ted Wagner's comment on moisture in the clay is right on the
money - be sure the pipe has rested and thoroughly dried out before putting
it in the fire.  I'd rather have a clay pipe color, though, so I find a long
pipe cleaner useful for my favorite Goudewagen churchwarden.  If you can't
get a cleaner all the way through to the bowl (a problem I have with the
Goudewaagen), then a thin piece of wire (I use brass wire) will be sufficient
to clear the end of the draft hole in the bowl.  Heating it first is also a
good idea since it facilitates getting the wire through the buildup of tar.
 One last things on clays - like meerschaum they should never be allowed to
develop a carbon cake.  As with meerschaum the inside of the bowl should have
the ash residue wiped out with a cloth or paper towel.  Unlike meerschaum,
however, the cloth can be moistened with water to make the cleaning easier.
 And remember about letting the pipe dry out thoroughly if you want to put it
in your fireplace to bake it clean.  BTW - do NOT use the fireplace method on
glazed or double-walled clays (right again, Mr. Wagner).

I'll wrap things up with some info I just got from Californians for Smokers'
Rights.  I talked with CSR veep Otto Mueksch on Thursday, 1/26.  He gave some
interesting details on the OSHA smoking ban hearings which started 2 weeks
ago.  Specifically - the government has PAID certain expert witnesses to
testify on behalf of enacting the ban.  4 of these witnesses also sat on the
supposedly "unbiased" Scientific Advisory Board that evaluated the EPA's work
on secondhand smoke.  One of these, a Dr. Stanton Glantz has done research
(funded by taxpayers) claiming to show that up to 53,000 Americans die each
year as a result of heart problems brought on by exposure to secondhand
smoke.  Glantz's work has been roundly criticized by other researchers - and
here's the kicker - Herr Doktor Glantz is a MECHANICAL ENGINEER!!!  In other
words, he has no qualifications whatsoever to be doing any kind of health
research.  And yet this man influences public policy and gets money from us
for doing it.  What we have here can best be described as an incestuous
relationship between government and activists, with corruption as vast as it
is well-hidden.  Boy, oh boy, oh boy!  Take notice, people - we have every
right to be very upset about what's going on, and we have every reason to
take action.  I urge all of you to write to your congresspeople about this.
 We should also get in touch with Congressman Tom Bliley, Jr., who's now in a
position to do something about all this.  I'll be getting in touch with his
office and if he has an e-mail address I'll pass it along in the next Digest.
 If OSHA goes through with the ban I think we may see a congressional
investigation of the agency, which I believe would give us a fighting chance
to start turning things around.  Best thing we can do right now, though, is
let the people in Washington know that we're aware of what is going on and
demand that they take steps to curb what has become an unconscionable abuse
of power.

Well, I think I'll put my soapbox away and go to bed.  Thanks, Steve, for
allowing me to hog so much space in these digests.  It's great to have a
forum, and I think it's like pipe 
smoking - we shouldn't take it for granted!

Regards,

Steve J. (Briar Man)

Thought for the day:  "Mince pies, not words."

[ I will certainly mail Congressman Bliley! Thanks! -S. ]


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From: Alex Portnoy <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Smoking Herbal Cigarettes.

Hello, Steve.

Do you, or do any of your subscribers of Smoking, know if there is any 
danger with smoking Herbal cigarettes?

Take Care.
Alex.

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Please send all Personal (non-ListServ) mail to: ????????????????????????

[ I understand that clove cigarettes are kind of nasty, but don't know
about other kinds. Comments? -S. ]


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                       Today's Snappy Comeback:

"You must have a lot to think about."

                                - From "101 Ways to Answer the
                                  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
                                  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,
                                  1987. 

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #175 -- January 29, 1995
  2. Subject: The Punchbowle...and then some...
  3. Subject: for the digest
  4. Subject: Cigar Web Pages
  5. Subject: Pipe Digest
  6. Subject: New Pipes
  7. Subject: e-mail address change and pipe care
  8. Subject: Smoke Signal #13 [PIPE]
  9. Subject: thank you
  10. Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #174
  11. Subject: Cleaning and Re-Fitting Stems
  12. Subject: Pipe Part Correction...
  13. Subject: Submission for next digest
  14. Subject: Falcons!
  15. Subject: back issues
  16. Subject: Answer to Jim Clark #174
  17. Subject: Hi Everybody!
  18. Subject: New Homepage
  19. Subject: Yet more stuff [PIPES]
  20. Subject: Smoking Herbal Cigarettes.
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