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Subject: Pipes Digest #180 -- March 6, 1995

		  Pipes Digest #180 -- March 6, 1995
	     Copyright (C) 1995 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 943

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Administrativa: Maryland residents, see Gary Bliesener's letter at the
end of this Digest. And please call your state representative.

Also, I've unfortunately been forced to institute the following
commercial use policy, due to a spamming incident: 

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Yecch. But I feel I had to do this, as you'll see later.

Sorry to say (and you may be relieved to hear :-) that extreme time
pressure doesn't permit me to edit in my usual pithy comments this
week... maybe sometime later. In any case, here's hoping that your
days are more peaceful... ~\U S.

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             Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
                        Call -- Write -- Vote
                        Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: ????????????? (Jan ilien-arulath Tomaszewski kalin-er)
Subject: Re: sad future for pipes????

Jan ilien-arulath Tomaszewski kalin-er (?????????????) wrote:

> Ruta Maya, which is a cigar/coffee store here in Austin, is on the net 
> with a web page. The propriator, Scott H. is a wonderful individual and 

Oops. Campbell is Scott's last name.

> will soon begin stocking pipes. His selection of cigars is good, but due 
> to back-order problems of all cigar makers, the orders may take a while 
> to fill. 
> 	Scott delivers anywhere in the world. I recently sent a Zippo 
> pipe lighter to our poor blighted friend Christopher in Cambridge using 
> Scott and Ruta Maya Tobacco. He didn't have anything in stock, but 
> ordered it there on the spot, and got the address for mailing.

The web-page is at http://www.onr.com/maya.html. They havent got a good 
ordering system up for credit cards yet, but that is being set up as we 
	For those of you overseas, you might want to get together with a 
group of your countrymen and put together a co-op. I know that shipping 
can be a hassle, as it cost me $27 just to ship one item. But the 
shipping costs are near the same for one item, or for 30 items. If all 
the English, and the Germans, etc. got together, I am sure an arrangement 
could be made to spread the shipping costs around to a number of people.

If you would rather fax an order, that number is 800/510-CUBA (or 
800/510-2822, for those who don't use a voice machine often...)


Disclamer: I have no financial interest in this venture, I just want to 
see one of the smaller operatis stay afloat in America's increasingly 
anti-tobacco environment.

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From: ????????????????? (RodMacMan)
Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
Subject: Re: Cigar club in the Bay Area


I don't know about the cigar club on the peninsula, unless you are
referring to the british bankers club, a cigar friendly public venue.
However, the *is* a club which is loosely organized in the bay area called
the San Francisco Cigar Club. 
As a founding member, i can tell you that we have had some very  nice
dinners to date at the clift, the fairmont, and the grand hyatt. others,
as well as a golf outing are in the offing.

If you would like to be included on our mailing list (@150 strong) just
e-mail me your address.

Rod Marymor San Francisco Cigar Club
Rod Marymor
Cardinal Communications
San Francisco, Ca.

From: ?????????????????? (frank dean)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 20:34:18
Newsgroups: alt.smokers.cigars
Subject: internet  cigar shop

On line imfo for cigar lovers and cigar newbies: 
A new service that wants to favor the internet clientel!!

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From: "Brad Long" <????????????????????????????????????????>
Subject:       Re: Pipes Digest #179 -- February 26, 1995

I'm doing a survey what is your favorite kind of tobacco.

please write to ????????????????????????????????????????

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From: "R.C. Hamlin" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Tobacco Article

Tobacco, worth the wait

Tobaccos should be purchased for both immediate consumption and for
their long term cellaring potential. In some cases the same blend
can be used now, with additional supplies put away for the future.

The single most important reason to acquire a tobacco, be it for now
or for long term storage, is the fact that you enjoy the taste of
the tobacco. This brings us to the obvious problem of how to find
the best tobacco to suit your taste. The answer is that you probably
will not find just one "best tobacco", but several. In addition, no
matter how perfect your current blend, chances are very good that
you will continue to search for something even better. Chances are
also very good that over your pipe smoking history you will fins
tobaccos that you will like, those that are okay (but not great) and
those that you do not like at all. 

Pipe smoking and tasting are after all part of the enjoyment of the
total experience. The more you know about the basics of tobacco
mixtures and blends, the better chance you will have in find only
those tobaccos that fit your needs. The golden rule of tobacco
tasting, which by the way is the exact rule used in wine selection,
is if you like the taste, smell and general character of the tobacco
(or wine), then it is a good blend. This rule will stand for the
least expensive tobaccos and the most expensive. It is true for the
simple mixtures and just as true for the most exotic blends - if you
like it, that is all that is important. A small problem comes into
play when the tobacco you are cellaring starts to change, as its
taste will change over time. The trick is to taste the tobacco young
and project what it will become in six months or six years.

Let's back up for a moment and redefine the basic types of tobacco
blends. Without going into a basic primer on Virginia, Burley,
Latakia and the like, we will go a step further and define tobacco
mixtures as a) mass produced aromatics, b) true cavendish (or type)
processed aromatics, c) Oriental "natural" non-aromatics and d)
Virginia based natural blends. Without exception, all of these
general types or styles of tobacco will change over a period of

Since mass-market styled aromatics use low character base tobaccos
and spray their top note or sweeteners, these tobaccos will actually
decline in character over time. Heavy cased aromatics, both in bulk
form and in packed form (pouch or tin) should be used "fresh" and
not left to cellar. True cavendish processed aromatics, usually
Danish produced, can be smoked now, but will continue to improve
over a period of time of up to a year. After the first year little
additional change will occur in the base tobacco of Danish
Cavendish, although the flavor, sweetness and character will "hold"
for several additional years under proper storage conditions.
Oriental natural blends (also English blends which are similar) will
continue to change for several years if left to cellar under proper
conditions. Virginia based flakes, cakes and loose blends will start
to change the day they are packaged and continue for many years. 

The degree of change in non-aromatic tobaccos depends more on how
"raw" the tobacco contained in the finished product. There are many
types of Virginia tobacco. Virginia is used in everything from basic
aromatic mixtures to pure navy flake tobaccos. In general only high
sugar content Virginias is used in premium tobaccos. Pressing,
heating, steaming, stoving and many other processes are used to
modify the basic raw Virginia, each plays a part in both the
immediate product taste and in the maturation process.              
The only way that you can project how a tobacco will change with
time is trial and error. The trick is to improve the odds in your
trials and reduce the errors part of trying new tobaccos. Each of us
has certain types of tobacco that we enjoy, some that we experiment
with and a few that we just do not like. You already have a head
start on your future trials and errors, just with this basic
understanding of personal taste.  If you can not stand American
styled black cavendish, avoid those blends that contain black
cavendish. You should understand that "English styled Black
Cavendish" is a completely different product than that found in
Captain Black or bulk types of American black cavendish (BCA, ZBC,
RLP-6, etc). If you hate latakia, avoid blends that contain this
tobacco and concentrate on the other types of tobacco. There is
nothing wrong with occasionally trying blends that you "think you
won't like" based on the types of tobacco they contain, just don't
expect miraculous results. Now comes the hard part...

Two additional hints concerning the "proper" aging of tobacco are: 

Rule #1 Cool, but not cold, storage conditions will allow your
tobacco to mature in a slow, even manner. The proper range is
slightly less than room temperature (55 F to 65 F) for slow, steady
maturation of tobacco. Tinned tobacco that is stored at a slightly
warmer range, say 75 F, will mature quicker with only a slight loss
in the overall final product. Remember that heat is used with steam,
some types of pressing and stoving of tobacco, but these processes
are used during manufacturing rather than the long term maturation
of the "finished product".  

Rule #2: Long term maturation is best achieved through the use of a
slightly loose packaging that contains some air. Vacuum packed tins
are typically used for Virginia based flakes and some Oriental
mixtures. Packaging that contains no "loose space" or air will still
mature, however the time needed to completely mature these vacuum
packed tobaccos will be much longer. The sealed, slightly loose,
packaging (tins) used by A & C Peterson and McClelland are the
perfect long (but not too long) term cellaring containers. 

I recently read a statement that said "tin tobacco was never meant
by their manufacturers to age in the can...". The remarks went on to
say how a few lucky individuals had discovered that tobacco does
change after tinning and that all you had to do enjoy mature tobacco
was to acquire your favorite blend and put it away for a period of

Since the writer was not a seller of tobacco I can understand why
this popular misconception was written. The actual facts are that
mass producers of "popular blends" (ie: drug store grade aromatics)
hope that their products do not last long enough to start to change.
Producers of quality leaf do expect their products to change after
tinning, and in many cases will hold their finished (tinned)
tobaccos for a period of time before releasing them to be smoked. 

Almost all of the standard McClelland tin tobaccos, especially
Virginia based blends, are held for at least 12 months before being
released to resellers. Several McClelland blends are held at the
factory for 18 months before being considered a finished product.
A&C Peterson states several times in their tobacco information
sheets that blends are "held to age" to fully wed the tobaccos
during their manufacture. 

Tobacco goes through many different stages before being released as
a final finished product fit for smoking. What should be understood
after saying this, is that just because the manufacturer of a blend
has released a finished product does not mean that the "finished
tobacco" will not continue to change. Tobacco manufacturers are
aware of this fact. Depending on the type or style of the blend
offered, manufacturers will take steps to either retard or enhance
these changes after release.

Exactly how a tobacco will mature is hard to tell without having
tried a five or ten year old example of a current production brand.
There are several basic guides that will hold true in projecting the
future taste of a newly purchased tobacco. 

#1: Highly processed, mass produced "drug store style" aromatics
will hold for up to a year and then begin to lose what little base
character they have. 

#2: Quality aromatics, such as those produced by Stokkebye,
McClelland, Charatan, John Sinclair and the new PCCA USA Series will
age well for 2 to 5 years. 

#3: Oriental style blends such as Rattrays original blends, Ashton
original blends, Dunhill, Sobranie and McClelland will need at least
1 year to soften with almost an indefinite period of time offered if
you would like to hold these. I know of an example where a member
has had a quanity of Rattray's Black Mallory for over 20 years and
it is still maturing and changing. The virginia content of an
English/Oriental mixture has more to do with long term maturation,
than the Oriental or Latakia content of the blend. Orientals and
latakia will mature and "wed" the blend during the first several
years, however the virginia tobacco in an English/Oriental mixture
will continue to change for many years.

#4: Virginia based mixtures, especially pressed Virginias (cake,
flake, spun disks, etc) offer the most drastic improvment with time.
What will start out as a hot, biting, sharp tasting tobacco will
change to a soft, smooth, mellow flavor with the addition of many
years of maturation. A good example of how to tell how old a
Virginia based pressed tobacco is, will be the color. 

If you open a tin of new Escudo you will see a definite contrast in
the bright yellow Virginias and the dark, almost black Perique. This
defined contrast in Escudo will change over time to almost a
monotone dark color on a well aged tin of just opened Escudo. Three
to five years will be a minimum age for softening Virginia based
pressed tobaccos. While pressed Virginias will age well for 10 or 20
years, few of us have the patience to hold these tins for this long.

Stoving  tobacco  is a way  to shorten the long term maturation
period of high Virginia content blends. The process of stoving a
tobacco is basically to heat the final blend under controlled
conditions as you would cook on a "stove". Gentle and controlled,
even heating, will cause the tannic acid breakdown and accelerate
the changes in sugar/starch content of the leaf. You can not replace
the long term maturation of Virginia tobacco with stoving, although
the process will remove the harshness of bright Virginia. Proper
stoving of Virginia based blends will accelerate the aging process,
but will not replace term maturation. 

Generally a stoved tobacco will be darker in the tin without the
contrasting bright and dark leaf of a non-stoved mixture. The
stoving process much more than just heating a finished blend, as too
much heat will break the character of an otherwise excellent
Virginia based tobacco. McClelland tobacco Company has had
outstanding success with stoving tobaccos. Many of the McClelland
produced Personal Reserve Series tobaccos and all of the
McClelland/PCCA USA Series tobaccos enjoying the added benefit of

It would be almost impossible to suggest the perfect cellar
inventory for "your tobacco cellar". The perfect cellar selection
would depend more on what you prefer in taste and tobacco style,
rather than the aging potential of aromatics, orientals or
Virginias. Once you understand what you can expect from these
different styles of tobacco, you will be able to select your choices
for your cellar. Once thing that should be remembered is that a one
dimensional tobacco cellar is about as interesting as a single
selection wine cellar, or eating the same dinner every evening.
There are many excellent tobaccos on today's market, in every style
and taste. A properly mixed tobacco cellar will include a selection
of various styles and types with the heaviest selection being your
favorite. Do not limit your cellar selection to only one type or to
a small quantity of your favorite mixture. 
You will want to open and taste your tobaccos, tin by tin, as they
mature. A limited number of tins, especially your favorite types,
will limit your taste testing and offer you only a small amount of
mature tobacco once aging has worked its magic.

Make sure that you date the tins in your cellar with the month and
year of purchase. This can be done by writing on the label or using
a marker on the underside of the tin. As of 1991, all Personal
Reserve tobaccos and the soon to be released USA Series of tobaccos
have the year of manufacture already stamped on the tin. I would
still suggest that you month/year date all tobaccos you decide to

As a final step in tracking the progression of tobaccos that you
cellar, you should keep a log. Your cellar log can be as simple as a
3X5 card with dates and tasting comments or as complex as you like.
Your log should list the dates that you added to your cellar, by
type and brand of tobacco. You will also find if very helpful to
keep tasting notes based on either a point scale (taste, bite,
sharpness, softness, sweetness, etc) or just a text based reaction
to each tobacco as they mature. This written history will serve you
well when you track the other tobaccos in your cellar. A cellar log
will help you learn to recognize the progression of various types of
tobaccos, especially those that you decide to add to your cellar
selection in the future.

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From: Tom Payne <????????????????????>
Subject:      Re: Pipes Digest #179 -- February 26, 1995

Dear Cigar and Pipe Fans,
     As I recently joined the computer world and have begun to learn to "surf"
on the Internet, I was delighted to find a service such as this available to th
e smoking public.  It serves as a reminder that even a leper and a pariah, as
smokers are generally viewed, can have a place where his problems are understoo
     By the way, my name is Tom Payne and I am a third-year law student at the
University of Kentucky.  As such, I will graduate in three months or so.  I onl
y regret that this has been available for so long, and I only found out about i
t last week!  But now that I know, I am and remain a huge fan.  Sadly, my wife
does not share in my joy.  That is good because it gives me an interest that is
entirely separate from her, but it is bad because I can't smoke in the house.
But life could be worse.
     I have smoked pipes of and on for 10+ years (I'm 29) but only recently
settled on English blends as a favorite.  I like Balkan Sobranie, Dunhill
965, and a similar blend available at a local smokeshop called "Paul's
Stuff."  I found out about the 965 copy available from C&D in the last digest,
and intend to order some soon.  Craig T. at C&D was very nice and helpful, even
though I called a 10 at night.  Of course, I expected a machine and was a littl
e embarassed when he answered.  But he answered every question I asked and even
 volunteered info that was relevant but I hadn't thought of.  I was very please
     I have been smoking cigars regularly for about a year now.  I have a stron
g preference for stronger cigars.  The only Dominican cigar I like is Arturo Fu
ente, and it is the only Dominican I have tried that I would call "robust."
Hondurans are a different story;  I like Punch and Hoyo de Monterrey very much.
As we all know, these are the only cigars available in the States due to the
long-standing trade embargo with Cuba (which is ridiculous in my opinion).
But on this point, I have heard from a very reliable source that Havanas can be
purchased through mail order with certain Canadian firms.  I mention this re
Gord Fergusons letter in #179.  I have not heard that these firms will sell
Havanas, but one could call to see.  Personally, I think a good Havana can't be
 beat; I had the opportunity to try some when I was overseas in the military
in my life before law school.  They are just simply the best.
     On a different point, in Levin's article about different types of Turkish
tobaccos, he referred to a Russian type called "Soukhum(?)"  I wonder if anyone
 out there knows anything about the origin of the word.  I was a Russian inter-
rogator in my army days, and in addition to the ordinary terminology that one w
ould be expected to know, I got to know quite a bit of slang.  So assuming that
 the word is Russian, my guess is that it means a declension of the word "dry"
or "of a b-tch" from the phrase "son of a b-tch."  I know this sounds bizarre,
but if anybody out there knows, please enlighten me.
     That's enough rambling for one day.  But let me thank you all once again
for providing such a resource and an outlet for our shared interest.  I look
forward to "talking" to you all again.  By the way, if this messes up, please
forgive me as I am new to the system.

Thanks again,

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From: ???????????????????????????
Subject: RE: Your Pipes Digest subscription request

	Thank you for sending me the Pipes Digest so promptly!  I am a
20 year old college student and I just got into pipe smoking.  Your 
resources on the World Wide Web has been a great help for me;  I know
no one who smokes a pipe so the FAQ's and how to's were extremely helpful.
	I guess I am a hopeless romantic (english major/philosophy
minor) and I always thought pipe smoking was something that
compliments reading a book.  So I bought a pipe from the local
tobacconist and "American Spirit" tobacco.  The pipe itself seems
rather small, about four inches long and is just two pieces, the bit
and the rest of the pipe.  I haven't the experience to say whether or
not it was a "good" smoke, but I am certainly up for experimentation.
	I just wanted to say thanks for your existence.  You have helped me
enjoy a new experience, rich in tradition, almost as old as a the first good
				Minh-Triet Nguyen

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From: "Don S. Johnson" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest #179 -- February 26, 1995

Steve et al: Mayhap the Digest subscribers can help me take advantage of an
opportunity. My girlfriend is spending a week in England next month and I
got her to agree to browse some pipe shops in London for me. What I need are
the names, and addresses, of a few shops, specially any known to have fair
selections of estate pipes (bargain hunter that I am). Also suggestions of
pipe brands she should keep an eye out for (except Petersons, which I
dislike). All suggestions welcome. Thanks.

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #179 -- Febr...

Steve: I wonder if there are many "heavy tobacco" smokers out there.  That
is, I smoke heavy Balkan blends, Erinmore, St Brunos and Condor.  Also, I
believe that the tobacco from McClellan, both in tins and in bulk,  is just
about the finest in this country and rivals anything from Great Britain.  But
I admit most of these are a bit stout and certain not sweet, as many new pipe
smokers prefer.  I fear that the demand for this type of tobacco is
decreasing such as to be an indangered species.  So also are big pipes.  So
many of the current offerings in pipe shops are medium to small.  It is a
major effort and expense to find truely big Petersons, Costellos, Caminettos,
Ferndown.  Upshalls seem easier to find.  Savinelli has tried to put our a
fair pipe at a good price in the Hersules series.  I woonder if there are any
shops in the sountry that really try to get big pipes.  I would also like to
know of other sources for estate pipes.  I am on Nikos Levins list.  Bob.

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: RE: Caminetto

Mr. Craig Lewis: More info on your Caminetto. I asked several of my collector
friends who have been collecting Caminettos longer than myself and got some
good responses, the best from Jay Milton of Edwardsville, IL, in spite of the
fact that the greatest Caminetto collector was the late and sorely missed,
Harvey Grief. 

Your Caminetto is one made not by the original Caminetto firm, but one made
in 1987 by the sons of Peppino Ascorti after they took over the operation of
their fathers "Ascorti" firm and decided to resurrect the Caminaetto name
even though their father and his former Caminetto partners had agreed not to
use the Caminetto name.

The models with numbers around the "quad-cross" indicate a more recent
vintage, after 1986 when the price increased dramatically with no increase in
quality (some collectors believe a drop in quality) so these are not near as
collectable as the several evolutions of the originals; upper left: shape or
catalog # (there were some 70 "usual" shapes and no #61 is listed as they
started at #101; a #161 is a flared Danish freehand shape that was usually
done in a flame grain finish); upper right: finish #: #1 - nat. flame grain,
#2 - nat. smooth, #3 - light walnut smooth, #4 - walnut smooth, #5 - red
smooth, #6 - extra sandblast lt. walnut, #7 - sandblast nat., red, or black,
#8 - carved nat., red, or black; lower right: year (01 = 1986); lower left:
series #: #1 - reg. 19mm bowl, #2 - large 22mm, #3 - Peppino 20-22mm, #4 -
Unique, varies. Since these don't quite agree with your listing, let me know
what you make of it.

The moustache should be white on your model.

Mr. Grief and others have uncovered some fakes, but we believe these were
copied from the older, rarer pieces and very few of them are around so you
should not have to worry. Some of these phonies are conspicuous with shape
numbers above 202 which was the highest seen by collectors on the originals,
however fakes are known with correct shape numbers.

Hope this finalizes the questions you have about your pipe. Hope you get to
try an original vintage Caminetto soon. Regards,...Rex

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From: Ray Bromley <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #179 -- February 26, 1995

After reading Digest #179, I wish to go on record as disagreeing with 
Arthur Greenwald with regard to articles about the false allegations that 
second-hand smoke is a health hazard.  As a college professor who has 
taught dozens of statistics courses, I believe that the deceit and 
manipulation of the environmental tobacco smoke studies must be exposed. 
Information concerning the myths which threaten to destroy not only our 
hobby, but our freedoms as well, is the only weapon at our disposal.  I 
welcome the articles, such as Steve's, which give smokers the ammunition 
to defend their actions and choices.  Smokers are being attacked and 
denounced with brazen falsehoods disseminated by bureaucrats whose 
sole motivation is their insatiable appetite for control over 
individuals' lives. Their so-called "evidence" is no less an outrage 
than the "evidence" of fear-mongers of the past, whose witch hunts against 
evils real and imagined drove them into the intellectual dishonesty and 
self-deception. Keep the truth coming, please!!!!!

   Ray  Bromley    | ???????????????????????????      ?????????????????
 Phoenix  College  |   ??????????????????????????????       -Ray [:-?
1202 W. Thomas Rd. |-------       ????????????????????        ---------
Phoenix, AZ  85013 | "Accept responsibility for your actions, and you
  (602) 285-7187   |  will never have to look for someone to blame."

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Any good American-made pipes?

Hi Steve,

I'm glad to see that my previous e-mail went through okay.  The Pipe Digest
is one of my favorite mailing lists on the Internet, along with the dog
obedience/dog training lists.  You do a terrific job with the Digest--it must
take up a fair amount of your time!  

It's so nice to hear from other pipe & cigar smokers out there.  After
reading the latest Pipe Digest I'm starting to think we're not quite as rare
as I had thought.  

I have a pipe-related question that hopefully will elicit some responses.
 Does anyone know of a high-quality, American-made pipe in the $100-130 price
range?  I've got several very nice Petersons and Charatans (large bowl bents)
but the new Charatans I've been looking at don't seem to be made as well as
the ones I bought in the mid-80s.  I don't particularly care for sandblasts
or freehand styles.  I've always liked the quality of briar that Peterson
uses and the way that Peterson pipes darken with use.  I may end up buying
another Peterson but I'm interested in trying something different, and would
like to get a nice American-made pipe (nothing against foreign brands,

I'm open to suggestions--keep up the good work!

Joe Hurley (??????????????)

(BTW, you commented in your last response about my AOL screen name.  Besides
being a Marine, I'm a part-time grad. student at Towson State
University--that's where I got the "TSU.")

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From: ?????????????????? (Gary Aminoff)
Subject: Pipes Digest #179 -- February 26, 1995

>From: ????????????????
>Subject: Let me introduce myself.
>My name is Joe Greenberg.  I work as a CPA in downtown Los Angeles and live
>in Sherman Oaks with my wife and 7 month old daughter (neither of whom
>smoke).  I grew up in Omaha, NE (Go Huskers!), went to school in Washington,
>DC and have lived in Los Angeles for 11 years.  I started smoking cigars
>about 4 months ago on a whim and I've enjoyed it ever since.
>   [Portion omitted]
>I would love to meet other cigar smokers in the Los Angeles area.  I look
>forward to future issues of Pipes Digest and participating in the group.
>          Joe


I am a cigar smoker in the LA area.  Perhaps we can get a cigar smoking
group together to have a cigar night at a restaurant once or twice a month.
I am posting it on the mailing list so that other like-minded people in the
LA area can respond.


Gary A. Aminoff / Carlton Properties, Inc.
11755 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 1140
Los Angeles, CA 90025 USA //(310) 268-2710 / FAX: (310) 268-1997
Internet: ??????????????????  // Compuserve: 76407,522

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From: Daniel Frayer <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Hello all

Hello Steve and other subscribers,
	I am a sophomore at the University of Arizona, and an avid pipe smoker.
Until recently, I had only a few close friends with which to share the 
joy of the pipe.  My, the wonders of technology!  I can now associate 
with fellow enthusiasts from across the globe.  I have been smoking a 
pipe now for over two years (my second anniversary was 1 and 1/2 months 
ago).  Through all the pressures and work to be done in college, I have 
always found time in the evening to sit down, light up, and spend an half 
an hour or so of "my time".  It's become one of my favorite parts of the 
day, when I can relax and leave the stress behind for a while.  Being a 
bit of an artist and a poet, the pipe has as well, at times, seemed to 
have helped my creativity and contemplation.  At present, I only have two 
pipes which I regularly smoke (I'm sure many of you know how money is in 
college!), my Peterson and my Maurizio.  My favorite type of tobacco has 
traditionally been the more flavorful aromatics with less bite, but as of 
late, I have begun smoking slightly heavier types with a bit more kick 
(Dark Knight, by name; I'm not sure of the exact blend).  At home, I 
always used to keep my tobacco in their bags, all in a large Tupperware 
container.  However, since I've moved,  the thing seems to get moldy, so 
I just keep the tobacco in their bags in a corner of my closet.  I guess 
the room has a high enough humidity that the tobacco retains a good 
portion of its moisture, although it's not quite the succulent moist kind 
I smoked at home.  Any suggestions on storage w/out mold problems?  I'd 
appreciate any information, just as I appreciate the subscription to this 
journal (thanks!).
						God bless,

Truth						________  *  Daniel Frayer
In my hand I grasp an iron stake		\      /  *  ????????????????
To the blackened altar then I crawl		|      |  *  arizona.edu
And though all Hell should stir and wake,	|______|  *********************
I gouge and grave, the Mark I scrawl	       \|______|/     O
I clamber up to snowy heights		        /\_  _/\     O
Hand and hand, my steps unheard		       //-o--o-\\   O
And upon the rock that blizzard blights	       /|  \/  |\  O
With golden stylus write the Word	      ///\_-=\/\\\__
On wings of wind from earth I part	      /// \__/\\_/ /   
Towards Heav'n;  with flights of angels' flame //      \\_/	
I sing aloud and upon Man's heart,
Ensconce, inscroll the Sacred Name

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From: ????????????????
Subject: New AT Pipe smoking.

Hi everyone..
I am new at pipe smoking and just picked up a 10 dollar pipe (one that screws
together, i'm not sure if that is good or bad).  I guess you would say that i
am smoking Generic tobacco. I have tried Jacks, and LTD 300.. So far i can't
tell the diffrence.   
   Here's my question...  When i smoke the tobacco it feels very hot in my
mouth.. sort of like the very end of a cigar (i have been smoking cigars for
a few months now).  The bowl at the end of the pipe is extremly hot,  too
 hot to hold comfortably..  Are all pipes this way?? Am i getting this
problem because of the inexpensive pipe??  What is a good, but inexpensive
pipe just to see if i really enjoy smoking them as much as cigars?   Thanks
David Goldstein

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes

I'm not sure what your name is, and I'm real new to this, having just
gotten access to the internet by joining the Columbus Freenet, so I hope
you'll excuse me if I make any gaffs.  I'm Bill Unger, here in Columbus,
Ohio, secretary/treasurer/newsletter editor of the Ohio Pipe Collectors. 
We're a smallish club (that hopes to grow larger) of people around Ohio
who are interested in pipe smoking and collecting.  We have been in
existence since late 1993, publishing a quarterly newsletter and producing
one swap/trade/sell show for members and the general public each year.
I have recently taken over as the club's secretary and newsletter editor. 
A writer/editor by profession, I hope to make the newsletter as exciting
and packed with information as possible.  As part of that effort, I have
written to all the clubs listed in the Agricultural and Mechanical
Gazette, which I found out about from Steve Anderson, OPC member and pipe
maker.  That's where I got this internet address as well.
I'd like to know how to access your group, if that's what it is, and read
the stuff you have.  I'd also like permission to print in our nesletter,
with proper accreditation, anything that looks like it might be
interesting to our members.  I'd also like to send you a copy of our next
issue, which will be appearing soon, and then add you to our comp list if
you would like to be added.
Hope to hear from you soon with a mailing address.  Thanks for your patience.
Bill Unger

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From: "Weinstein, John, Dr, NSS" <????????????????????????????>
Subject: literature


     just came across an excellent article in "The American Spectator" about 
attitudes of non-smokers toward smokers.  written by joe queenan and 
entitled "the week of smoking dangerously", the article recounts the 
reactions encountered by the cigarette-smoking author in new your city.  the 
article bears out a suspicion i've harbored for some time now, ie, that 
civility is dead.
     i am sending to you under separate cover the most recent newsletter of 
the "capital area pipe smokers" (caps) club.  all pd subscribers who are 
residents of or visitors to the capital area are invited to attend our 
dinner meetings, the next of which is scheduled 8 march at 7.30 in fairfax, 
va.  subscribers interested in attending should contact me for meeting 
     hope all is well with you.  thanks for your continuing excellent 
efforts on our behalf.


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From: "mark rice, east-texas" <???????????????>
Subject: Another Fine Quality Shop

Thank you for your work on PD.  I need the education.
Please add this fine quality shop to your list:
(Yes, they do mail orders)
The Humidor 1-800-788-8175
Specialty Pipe and Tobacco Shop
6900 San Pedro
Suite 111
San Antonio, Tx.  78216
Also at (210)824-1209

Cigars sold:  Davidoff, Ashton, Caballeros, Jose Benito, Arturo Fuente, 
Rafael Dominican Bundles, Paul Garmirian, Onyx, Dunhill Aged Vintage, 
Leon Jimenes, Don Rafael Bundle, Henry Clay, Troya, Sosa, Avo, and even
Suerdieck from Brazil, plus MANY others.

Pipe tobaccos include aromatics, Dunhill collections, Mac Baren blends,
and MAC's Original Harkness 'F' - "founded at the original Harkness Pipe
Shop in San Antonio and smoked by General MacArthur, a mild and mellow
pipe tobacco that has great taste and a pleasant aroma."

My favorite aromatic is West Texas Mocha, "A very rich Black Cavendish; a 
delicious flavor, not too sweet."

Pipes from Savinelli, Bjarne, CAO, Jobey, Peterson, Butz Choquin, Sasieni
of London, Charatan, Alpha, Stanwell, and SMS Meerschaums.  Many accessories
and humidors (of course).

They accept Mastercard, Visa, American Express, Checks or Cash.  They mail
to any F.P.O. or A.P.O. and offer discounts for bulk orders.

Call them at 1-800-788-8175.

Mark Rice <????????????????

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscri...

Thank you for the subscription to the Pipes Digest.  Very informative.  My
name is Randy Biggs and I own and operate THE TOBACCO SHOP of Indianapolis,
3919 Lafayette Road, Lafayette Square Mall, Indianapolis, Indiana 46254,
(317) 299-6010,or  (800) 232-3997. I am about a mile north of the
Indianapolis 500 race track.   I specialize in premium and super premium
cigars, pipes, tobacco and accessories.  I sponsor a cigar club known as The
Havana Daydreamin' Cigar Club of Central Indiana, which meets the 2nd and 4th
Tuesday of each month at Dealers Choice Pub, 3970 Georgetown Road,
Indianapolis, Indiana.

We had a regular cigar get together last night and a question arose that I
thought I would put to this forum.  

Can a foreign citizen visiting the USA bring with him or her any Cuban Cigars
for personal use?  And what is the limitation?

Thank you again for the valuable information.

Randy Biggs
Your Personal Tobacconist

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From: Bill  Pickering <?????????????????>
Subject: Junk Mail

Dear Steve, 

Thank you for the prompt response to my request for addition to the pipes
mailgroup.  I received the latest pipes digest a couple of days ago, so
everything seems to be working.

However, this evening I found email addressed to me and several other
people advertising a humidor for $99.95 or something.  This wouldn't
be a Bad Thing(tm) if I were in the market for a humidor.  Since I'm not,
I considered it junk mail and tossed it.  But then I started wondering how
he got my address.  I guess he could have pulled it from the archives, if
this copy is already there, but this message was only to about six people,
not the entire list of new members.  Has anyone else mentioned this?  Do I
now get electronic junk mail forever?  If I win ten million dollars, will
Ed McMahon pop up in the middle of my session?  Is this guy really so
interested in my system that he really wants an entire eight meg core dump
to read?  Will Kimberly have the President's baby, or begin that
correspondence course to become a CIA hit person?

But seriously folks, I'm not particularly fond of any junk mail, but I'm
not going to get my gun out either.  I guess I'm just wondering if you had
heard about anything like this before.  I guess it could be one of the
members flogging this thing.  Well, enough ranting.  I'm enclosing the
header from the message to see if you know this guy.  I'll cut him some
slack this time, I guess.

Sorry if I've wasted your time with this.  I'll go take my medication now.

Thanks,  Bill

>From ???????????????????? Mar  1 19:32:55 1995
>Date: Wed, 1 Mar 1995 17:53:15 -0500
>From: ?????????????????
>To: ?????????????????????, ???????????????????, ????????????????????????,
>    ??????????????????, ????????????????????, ?????????????????,
>    ??????????????, ?????????????????, ???????????????????,
>    ????????????????????, ????????????????????, ????????????????
>Subject: Humidor Kits!!!
>Dear cigar aficionado,
>Introducing J&S humidor kits!!!

Beware the fury of a patient man. - Dryden

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From: ?????????????? (Patrick Neil North)
Subject: Uneven burns

Dear Steve-

There's been much discussion lately as to why some cigars burn unevenly,
and I'd like to add my two cents.  It's been my experience that the reasons
for uneven burning can be divided into three categories- 1)Physical
characteristics of the cigar. 2)Storage/ Smoking environment of cigar. and
3)"Method" of smoking.
1)Generally, a better made cigar will burn uniformly, although I have
personally had rare trouble with Punch, Hoyo's, even Monte Cristos.  A fine
cigar will be of quality tobac- and shouldn't have large or noticeable
veins.  Not only are the veins marks of inferior wrapping leaf, the veins
tend to burn at rates unequal to that of the rest of the leaf, encouraging
uneven burns.  If you're buying a cigar singley (sp) you can give the cigar
a once over- checking for wrapper quality, and soft spots where tobac has
been bunched unevenly allowing for uneven burns.  Even some of the "better"
brands can carry a dud or two...
2)Poor levels of humidity are probably one of the most common reasons for
eneven burns- too soggy, too dry- also a quick change in humidity.  Ever
leave the confines of your well heated home on a cold day and try to smoke
a cigar in the process?  Bad things happen- bad things.  If the foot
doesn't burst upon combustion, it will certainly burn unevenly.  A windy
day can also inspire uneven burns
3)Lastly, and perhaps most insignificantly except in extreme cases, the
manner in which the cigar is smoked can contribute, positively or
negatively to the burn.  Slow, evenly paced puffs allow the cigar to burn
the way it was made to burn- evenly.  Any fool trying to suck down a Prince
Philip in 10 minutes flat will assuredly complain that his or her cigar is
burning unevenly.  Given the chance, most good cigars should right
themselves naturally.  An even cut at the shoulder helps for an even draw-
and make sure the end doesn't get soggy in your mouth! This wil generally
cause an uneven draw and uneven burn.
As I'm getting a little winded, I think I should quit lecturing.  Hope this
helps- and as often happens to me- try not to let an uneven burn ruin your
enjoyment of a good cigar- if it tastes good, smoke it.
On a side note of interest- I am a student at Penn State where (school)
legislature is in the works to ban smoking in dorm rooms PERIOD.  I feel
more than a little helpless since this has gone through WITHOUT prior
notice.  What can be done?  Help?  (This is to go into effect in 1996.)
Thanks a lot, and smoke one for me.

Patrick North

~~~Patrick Neil North/ Lyons Hall Room 315/ University Park PA 16802~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~email: ??????????????~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Happiness is everything.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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From: seth strichartz <?????????????????????????>
Subject: arturo fuente

Steve: I read each issue of the newsletter fairly rigorously (at least all of
the cigar-related stuff). Am I the only one out there who thinks that Arturo
Fuente is the best cigar buy to be had? A Double Chateau Fuente for $2.10 (by
the box) is an unbelievable buy in my opinion. What about the Hemingway
Signature cigar- my current favorite. Eager to here if anyone else feels the
same way. Sincerely, Seth Strichartz

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From: ??????????????
Subject: The Brothers Clinton & Cigars

Hi Steve,
There's a very interesting story I heard recently from a friend of mine
concerning Pres. Clinton, his brother Roger, and their holiday cigars.  My
friend works for a large pipe & cigar store in the suburban D.C. area.  I've
always known him to be truthful and I believe the story he told me is
accurate.  I relate it as I heard it, leaving it to the rest of you to draw
your own conclusions, but I for one believe the story is true.  The story was
told to me a couple of days after Christmas.  I've told a few friends of mine
about it, but figured many of you Pipe Digest subscribers would also find it

On Christmas Eve afternoon a gentleman walked into the Tobacco Barn at the
Pentagon City mall and introduced himself to the salesman as Roger Clinton,
President Clinton's brother.  He said he was doing some last-minute Christmas
shopping and wanted some advice on getting a box of the best cigars he could
for his brother the President.  The salesman (who my friend knows well) was
only too happy to oblige, selling him a box of $160 cigars (I apologize for
not remembering the brand, but I'm mostly a pipe smoker and didn't pay
attention to the brand name when the story was told to me).  Anyway, the
salesman (who shall remain nameless) rang up the sale and chatted with Roger
Clinton for about ten minutes.  The two of them got along quite well and
discovered that they had some hobbies, interests, etc. in common.  The
salesman even gave Roger Clinton his business card, which happened to contain
not only his work phone # but his home phone # as well.  Anyway, Roger
finally said he needed to head over to the White House to celebrate Christmas
with his brother.  They wished each other a Merry Christmas and Roger
departed.  Shortly after that was closing time at the Tobacco Barn, and the
salesman closed up and headed home to tell his family about his famous
customer and to celebrate Christmas.
That's not the end of the story however.  About 1 a.m. on Christmas morning
the salesman's phone (at home) rings, and he answers it to hear Roger Clinton
on the phone.  Roger said he was sorry to bother him at home (he got his
phone # from the business card) but that the box of cigars he had bought (as
a Christmas gift for his brother Bill) was only one-half full.  The salesman
immediately realized that he must have mistakenly given Roger a box from
which some individual cigars had already been sold.  Roger said that his
brother (the Pres.) wanted to know if he could come right over with a fresh
box and drop them off at the White House west gate, as they had a few friends
over and Pres. Clinton needed the cigars right then.
The salesman told Roger he would try to do what he could.  After hanging up,
he called security at the Pentagon City mall and arranged for the night
watchman to meet him and let him in the building.  He then drove from his
home in suburban Virginia to the Pentagon City mall, picked up a fresh box of
cigars and then headed over to the White House, having second thoughts all
the way (keep in mind that he's driving into DC at around 1:45 a.m. on
Christmas morning).  He exchanged the "complete" box of cigars for the
partial box at the White House west gate as directed and went home and went
back to bed, thinking that that was finally the end of it.  Not quite,
though, because at around 7:00 a.m. his phone rings again, but this time it's
not Roger Clinton but President Bill Clinton, calling him to tell him how
much they all enjoyed the cigars and thanking him for his extra effort in
delivering the cigars to the White House. The salesman, who by this time was
wide awake again, thanked the President for calling him, they wished each
other a Merry Christmas and hung up.

That's the whole story, as I heard it.  Some of you may find it boring or not
believe it, but as I said, I heard it from a trustworthy friend.  I think
it's an interesting anecdote that some of you may enjoy.  I'm not trying to
start any political "flames" here either right or left, but I can't help but
wonder about two things:  (a) where was Hillary during all of this? (was she
one of the stogie smokers?), and (b) what ever happened to all the talk about
a "smoke-free" White House?  I doubt that Bill & the boys were forced to go
out on the White House south lawn at 2:00 on Christmas morning to light up!
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed the story as much as I did.

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Re: First response......

I am brand new to The Pipe Digest. I must start by saying I am truly
impressed with the first correspondence that was sent to me. This clearly is
a quality organization.

To tell you a bit about myself, I am 30 years old and a customer service
manager with a large west coast telecommunications company. I am married and
have a 7 day old new baby girl. I have never smoked a pipe (yet!) but over
the past 2 years have become a fairly good cigar afficionado. At present, I
am really interested in what any of the members here have to suggest as to
what their favorite cigars are and why, and what mail order cigar clubs are
worth paying attention to. Any feedback would be appreciated.

I look forward to future correspondence with The Pipe Digest members.
   Happy (quality) smoking to all!!

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Update, for what it's worth

I read Pipe Digest faithfully each week, and applaud the steadily growing
numbers of new members. It's fun to read the initial contributions of the
newbies, and the ongoing installments from our more vocal puffers. Having
some spare time just now, I'll submit this update on how my smoking life is
Awhile back, I reported my big Dunhill blend score on a trip to Chicago.
Here's my take on the four blends I bought. The Standard blend has been the
least impressive. I smoke a pipeful here and there out of duty (waste not,
want not y'know), and the most I can say is it's not bad. It seems to have
dried out quicker than the other three, so I put the open tin inside one of
my cigar humidors, but haven't checked on it since. BTW, despite recent
Digest remarks, I can't perceive evidence of glycerol in any of these Dunhill
blends; maybe the reference was to bulk tobacco (regretfully unavailable at
the Alfred Dunhill store itself!).
The My Mixture 965 is okay as a general purpose smoke--at least it's more
flavorful than the Standard. But the best IMHO are Nightcap, which I do save
for late evening sessions with the mindless pap on TV, and Early Morning
Pipe, which is indeed often the first pipeful of the day, even though I
strive to wait until afternoon for the first spark-up. This is my first can
of Early Morning Pipe in 34 years. I know that because I bought my first can
along with my first Dunhill pipe (a tanshell sitter) while on my modest
honeymoon, May 1961. My bride and I, both unused to tobaccos outside the Half
& Half and Amphora world, jokingly referred to it as Early Morning Dung.
Bride is now an ex, the sitter was also ill-starred, suffering a broken shank
(skillfully repaired by Ehrlich's in Boston with a handsome silver band) and
later lost altogether (moment of silence, please...).
Anyway, these blends afford me a welcome variety of tastes, but my strong
favorite smoke is still McClelland's bulk blend #2020, available through any
tobacconist that wants to take the trouble to order some for you. This stuff
is a rich matured Virginia flake you can rub out to suit your preference, and
burns to a dry white ash, leaving a very pleasant aroma in the room. I love
returning to my car after smoking 2020 in it.
Although cigar season doesn't start for me until I can hand out the porch
swing (here in Lansing MI) for balmy outdoors puffing, I did score a lucky
find during my most recent trip to Chicago (Evanston, actually). In a resale
shop I snagged a lovely cigar humidor, apparently unused, for $15.00. It had
a brass plate on the top, still blank which I've just had engraved with my
initials. The engraver, a cigar guy himself, is green with envy.
After years of guessing to myself (and aloud to curious friends) about just
how many pipes I actually own, I took a hands-on census last week and can now
admit to owning 280 pipes. There are probably a couple dozen drugstore-grade
items in that total, but I was kinda impressed by all the really solid (if
not collector-grade treasures) pieces I've accumulated over the past 39
years. These days I stick with my top-line pipes (Dunhills, Charatans,
Petersons, Nilssons, etc) for daily use, but all these Sasienis, Malagas,
Cellinis, Savinellis, CustomBilts, Doodlers, Velanis, Ben Wades and Stanwells
are darn good smokes, too. So many pipes, so little time...
BTW, I hope all you AOL members out there are aware of (and active on) the
pipes and cigars forum on AOL. I signed up for a maillist update, which I've
yet to receive, and have requested info from several Cigar-of-the-Month clubs
I first read about there.
I've seen occasional passing reference to Paul's Pipeshop in Flint MI, but
would like to alert you all to an annual event worth remembering. Paul
Spaniola celebrates his shop's anniversaries every July, by allowing a 50%
discount, towards the purchase of one pipe (his 50th anniversary was some
years ago). This sale will be on Wednesday July 12th this year. Furthermore,
if you are a Cayuga Pipe Club member (get your card by buying at least one
Cayuga pipe, Paul's in-store brand), you can, at any time during July get 50%
off one pipe or 40% off two pipes. BTW, Paul showed me through his storeroom
awhile back, and I was astounded at the depth of his big-name pipe stock not
even on display. Here's the full ID on Paul's:
     Paul's Pipe Shop
     647 S Saginaw Street
     Flint MI 48502

Guess that's enough smokescreen for now. Thanks again, Steve, for this great
service to us puffers.
Best from RedBell (aka Dennis c Cullinan)

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From: ??????????????

Dear Steve:

In reference to a digest reader's recent question on "casings", may I offer
this brief explaination, derived from the "Dictionary of Tobacco
Terminology," pulished in 1980 by Philip Morris. I've tried to keep the
techno-bable to a minimum. CASINGS are a mixture of hygroscopic agents or
humectants (ingredients added to tobacco to help it retain moisture and
plasticity: for example glycerin, glycols) and flavoring agents applied to
tobacco to condition it for processing to reduce breakage, facilitiate
cutting, etc. Flavors applied to tobacco AFTER it has been processed and
dried -- usually as it is cooling -- are known as TOP FLAVORINGS or TOP
CASINGS. These are volatile (quick evaporating) flavors.

On a lighter note, thought you might find the following article amusing. It
appeared in the June 4, 1925 issue of TOBACCO, an industry trade magazine now
in its 108th year. 

Is Still Another Cigar Slogan Needed by the Trade?

So many people in the cigar business have objected to the present slogan of
the trade, "After All, Nothing Satisfies Like a Good Cigar," that it is
proposed by interested folk to change the phrase, and get something snappy.

One of the proposals, and now in use by Wertheimer Brothers, is the "Be a Man
-- Smoke Cigars" originated by Leonard Wertheimer. Still another selection
offered has been "Cigars -- A Man's Smoke," by Stern, Mendelsohn 
Co., which is somewhat similar to the Wertheimer slogan.

In Grand Rapids, though, Claude Wykes who has given a lot of thought
to the cigar business and its troubles through his connection with the cigar
fixture business of the Loudon Manufacturing Co., suggests "What's Better
Than a Good Cigar."

It is  good slogan. But the fact is, almost any old slogan is a good
 slogan if advertised enough. "Pillsbury's Best" isn't much of a slogan, as
slogans go, and yet it helped to create, through years and years of
repetition, one of the largest, if not the largest, flour mills in the world.

Same too, with "Say It With Flowers!" It is good slogan, a fine slogan, but
what would it have amoiunted to if the florists hand't spent a fortune
putting it over these last several years?

"Save the Surface and You Save All!" is a pretty appropriate paint sloga. And
the paint trade, to make it go, has advertised it completely -- and

Outside of the General Cigar Co., and very few other firms and organziations
in the cigar business, no one ever took hold of the "After All" slogan with
any persitence. And it's persistence which put over everything -- even
slogans. Even cigar slogans.

(Seventy years later, how many Americans actually know the current industry
slogan, "Relax -- Enjoy A Cigar"?)

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From: Steve Masticola <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: Use of Pipes Digest to send commercial junk mail

To: ?????????????????
Subject: Junk mail (Re: Humidor Kits!!!)

Mr. Alfano:

I have received a complaint from a member of the Pipes Digest that you
have sent unsolicited junk email to several members of the list.
Commercial use of the mailing list is prohibited by the explicit
policy of the Digest. I also believe that commercial junk mail is
prohibited by the policy of AOL.

I have therefore removed your name from the Pipes Digest mailing list.

A copy of this letter is being forwarded to ?????????????????? for
further action; anyone who objects to commercial junk email should
also write to this address. Another copy will be placed in the Pipes
Digest. A third copy will be posted to alt.smokers.cigars.

I regret that you have forced me to do this.


				Stephen P. Masticola

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Introduction

Brief introduction.

I was extremely excited to find an Email list devoted to my favorite
past time. I am 33 year (as of the Ides of March) and am currently
between gigs while I try and figure out what to do with my life. The
resulting contemplations are a perfect time to relax and have a cigar.

Although I am hesitant to share the following cigar preference (lower
availability and higher price), they are just too good to keep to
myself. Credo is producing some cigars that are, simply, unbelievable.
The only cigar that I have EVER found that can exceed either the Credo
Athanor or Parthagoras is a true Cuban Romeo y Julietta Churchill.

They are quite expensive, but Mike's in Miami has them for a fairly
reasonable price. I would strongly suggest that those of you who
appreciate a milder smoke (along the lines of a Macanudo Cafe) grab a
couple. They won't disappoint.

I have been VERY glad that Cigar Afficianado has not seen fit yet to
rate this fine brand as it has helped to keep demand under control.

James R. Ehrler          |  (() [email protected]@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@[email protected]@@@@@)
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From: ??????????????????? (N. Brown)
Subject: newcomer


I am happy to have discovered this group because I realize that I have no
knowledge whatsoever of tabaccos and their individual charecteristics.
I am a complete newcomer when it comes to pipe smoking.  I recently
purchased a cheap estate pipe and a couple ounces of a mild burley blend at
my local tobacconist.  (The original Tinder Box in Santa Monica, CA)
That was a couple weeks ago, and today I bought a non flavored mild English
blend called Baker Street Mild.   Both of these are mixtures only available
at this particular location.

 The English blend I perchased is quite enjoyable to me-the salesman let me
pack up a pipefull and light up to see if I liked it before buying.
....Kind of reminds me of my favorite pub, one that lets you sample a small
amount of a fine brew before ordering a draught in your preferred size.  I
actually prefer the unflavored english blend to the flavored burley,
although both are quite mild.  If I remember correctly, the Baker St.
Mixture consists of Virginia with a small amount of Pirique(sp?).   I am
wondering if there is a complete volume somewhere either on or off line
that describes all of the different varieties used in pipe mixtures.  This
way I would know what people are talking about when they mention Bengel
Slices, Cavendish, Latakia or burley (or Virginia or Turkish and on and
on).  I enjoy a hobby that requires, or at least invites you to learn about
the finer complexities.  I have always enjoyed fine beers and coffees for
that reason.

What about the FAQ I have heard so much about?  How do I get ahold of it?
Maybe at a URL?  I would try a WWW search of some kind, but a specific URL
would be quicker.

One final question, are there any pipe (and Cigar) friendly
clubs/lounges/bars etc in the west side area of LA?  I live in Santa
Monica, and I doubt if there are too many here.  If anyone knows of any I
would greatly appreciate the info.

Anyway, thanks for this digest, and happy smoking...
N. Brown

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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Intro

Dear Steve and all,

Thanks for the list and the work you do on it. I have managed to
download and read most of the old Digests and have enjoyed them very
much.  My history of smoking a pipe covers about 40 years. I decided
when I was around 15 that I wanted to smoke a pipe. I lived in a small
town in SW Virginia and the only pipes available were Medico, Yello
Bole, and Kaywoodie. How's that for some old and forgotten or possibly
never heard of names. Anyway I got a Yello Bole and some Sir Walter
Raliegh and began smoking a pipe. It didn't work. The pipe soon became
soggy and nasty and I gave it up.

Not much later I went to Roanoke for a Boy Scout Jamboree and found
myself at Milan Brothers. I know one of the brothers was Ellis and I
believe the other was George (memory failing.) Anyway George ? was
very helpful and sugested that, since I could not afford an
appropriate number of pipes to permit a proper rotation, I should try
a Kirsten pipe. I bought a Kirsten Companion for $2.95 and some of
their house tobacco. I was much more successful with this and actually
became a pipe smoker. I think George gave me very good advice and pass
it on to new smokers on the list.

When I went to college I bought my first "good pipe", an oversize
Charatan Special which I picked up at Royal Cigar Company in Atlanta
for $32.50. Since then I have accumulated more than 300 pipes. I
prefere the pipes of Italy and most of my pipes are from Italy. Becker
and Costello are the favorites. For everyday use I still smoke
Kirstens-only smoke my better pipes when I am home.  It is the only
pipe I know of that you can smoke steadily with little attention
without deterioration of flavor and getting soggy.

As for tobacco I pretty much smoke only flakes. I wish I could find a
loose tobacco with the flavor of flakes but I have never been able
to. My all time favorite tobacco was Ashton Black Parrot which at
least at the present time is not available. McClelland is in the
process of developing the complete range of Ashton tobacco and
hopefully it will be on the market again soon. I have a can of their
first effort at Black Parrot to test-they haven't got it yet. I smoke
and enjoy most of the McClelland 20xx bulk tobaccos and a tobacco
called Fader Flake which I get from Fader's in Baltimore.

More the next time.

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #179 -- Febr...

re: tom @collins tobacco in lehigh valley mall
 just wanted to let you know i was in your shop last weekend.
surprised to see all the athletic plaques.
very nice store,but i thought the cigars were a bit expensive.

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From: ???????????????????? (Voodoo)
Subject: Liberty Tabacco

Dear Steve:

I want to tell everybody about the greatest cigar and pipe store in San
Diego. They have the largest selection of cigars I have ever seen.  The first
time I walked into their humidor I could not believe my eyes.  The shelves
were crammed with lots of cigars, some I had never seen before.  Cigar boxes
are stacked all the way to the ceiling, with a large table in the middle of
the humidor with more cigars on top of and below it.  It was enough to make a
grown man weep with joy.

Charles Hennegan, the owner, set up chairs in the middle of the store so that 
customers can have a seat and smoke with other cigar and pipe enthusiasts. The 
store also has a large selection of quality pipes and tobaccos. The name and
phone number of this find is:

Liberty Tobacco
Independence Square
7341 Clairemont Mesa Blvd.
San Diego, CA 92111
(619) 292-1772 The matches state they will ship anywhere.


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From: ????????????????
Subject: Blatherings, Part 354024975

Dear Steve -

Just finished perusing the latest Digest, which I downloaded earlier today.
 I enjoyed reading Antti Kalioski's account of summertime camping in Lapland.
 The bit about the insects sounds a lot like what happens when you go to
Alaska during the same time of year!  BTW, Antti - I wonder if it would be
even worse in Karelia.  Also found Mr. Brandstetter's posting informative re.
the 9 mm. filters (I knew there had to be a drawback!).  Thanks also to Bob
Hamlin for the info on tobacco storage.  I've found that ziplock bags are
also useful, but there's a catch.  I used to use plain old ziplocks, which I
thought would be adequate - until I discovered that the tobacco would often
get dried out just sitting around.  Now I use ziplock freezer bags, and this
is no longer a problem.  What I found out was that the plastic in the regular
ziplocks is thin enough that air will actually pass through, which doesn't
happen with the freezer variety because they're made with thicker plastic
(and the seals are also stronger).  Anyway, Bob's tips for long-term storage
are handy, especially for those of us who cellar more than a pound or two.  I
myself have been doing a lot of cellaring over the
past year because there's something to be said for letting tobacco age, and
besides, one never knows what might happen with excise taxes (or worse

I've been getting more positive feedback from my EPA article.  Seems my work
is becoming widely known in the smokers' rights circles, and it's gratifying
to at least be doing something that helps our cause.  This brings me to
Arthur Greenwald's posting in the last Digest.  His comments miss the mark,
and require a rebuttal (and thank you for leaving the door open for me to do
this).  Mr. Greenwald says "it's worse than futile to argue against the idea
that smoking and second-hand smoke are potentially damaging to people's
health.  First of all, the basic scientific evidence is quite consistent and
scientifically compelling. Anyone who smokes and thinks otherwise is fooling
him or herself."

For starters, when it comes to the effects of smoking on the smoker I have
NEVER claimed that smoking is without risk.  What I take exception to is the
failure to make valid distinctions.  There is a vast difference between the
degree of risk inherent in cigarette smoking and that from pipe and cigar
smoking.  This is a FACT reflected in the medical literature.  What is at
issue is the nature and extent of the risk, as well as factors that can
mitigate it.  The data on the health effects of pipe and cigar smoking is not
nearly as consistent as Mr. Greenwald seems to think.  Having examined a fair
amount of the medical literature on the subject, I can attest to this. 

What I argue is that our choices should be driven by a fair and accurate
understanding of the situation, a process that is often hindered by those who
are in a position of supposed trust.  Contrary to what many would like to
believe, scientists and doctors are not high priests passing down the word of
God.  They are human beings, subject to the all the foibles of human nature.
 If Mr. Greenwald puts unquestioning faith in the pronouncements of the
health establishment, then he leaves himself wide open to the pitfalls
created by an area of science that has been highly politicized.  I therefore
find it ironic that he invokes the name of C. Everett Koop in stating his
case.  Dr. Koop singlehandedly turned the office of the Surgeon General into
a springboard for anti-tobacco advocacy.  His reporting on the health effects
of smoking did away with any concept of fairness concerning pipe and cigar
smoking.  This was accomplished by misrepresenting the findings of medical
studies, as well as ignoring information which refuted his position.  This is
not a fiction on my part,
but is reflected by information that is a matter of public record.

As for environmental tobacco smoke, the science is anything but "consistent
and scientifically compelling."  The charges leveled against the EPA in my
article are not mine alone, but come from numerous competent sources.  Mr.
Greenwald is correct in stating that the field of scientific research is
complex.  The serious flaws in the EPA report are, however due to the
violation of things fundamental to good science.  These fundamentals have
been developed over hundreds of years of empirical inquiry.  The fact that
they have worked well enough to provide reasonable reliability is the basis
for our acceptance of scientific findings.  When these standards are
compromised, as they were by the EPA and its Science Advisory Board,
intellectual honesty suffers.  This is a poor basis for making public policy
- no matter what the target is.  The idea that such a compromise is
acceptable because the subject is tobacco constitutes a very valid reason for
critically examining the motivations and methods of those who seek to
influence human behavior.

My article does not attempt to get into the scientific intricacies precisely
because the conduct of the EPA and SAB ignored the very basics of proper
scientific practice.  The violation of these basics, and the influence of
politics on the outcome of the EPA's ETS risk assessment is what I reported
on.  I have no interest in a mindlessly contrarian sniping at authority, and
I wrote the piece only because there is a substantive basis for questioning
the exercise of power by the EPA in pursuing an anti-smoking agenda.  Many
people have told me that my article contains information which is more than
sufficient to support this argument.  If Mr. Greenwald feels otherwise, then
I don't know what it would take to satisfy him.

He also expresses the idea that the Pipes Digest is not the place for this
kind of topic.  The anti-smokers have been given wide exposure through the
media, while there are few forums available to the opposition - and this is
one of 'em.  In fact this is an ideal forum because 
a). it permits an exchange of information among people who do not want to see
their pursuit
regulated out of existence, and b). it allows us to do this without getting
flamed for doing so. The Digest does indeed give us a way to share the
pleasures of our pastime, and I truly enjoy this camraderie.  But the Digest
also has been a place where there is the FREEDOM to air more activist views.
 Mr. Masticola has recognized the importance of providing a forum for a
diverse discussion of things relating to pipes and cigars, and he has not
shied away from the tackling of serious subjects.  If it were otherwise, then
I would certainly not be presumptuous enough to impose myself on the
membership of this group.

Basically I am a peaceable man.  I would like nothing better than to be left
alone so that I can live - and enjoy - my life as I see fit.  Since I have
been intruded upon by people who are much more than the "busy-bodies"
described by Mr. Greenwald, I've been forced to fight.  I consider myself
lucky that my upbringing and education led me to value and engage in 
critical, independent thought.  In the 16 years that I have been a pipe
smoker I've seen smoking become demonized and subject to increasingly
extremist attacks.  As an independent thinker I have refused to accept this
without challenge, choosing instead to see for myself what would be revealed
by delving into as much information as possible.  By engaging in the debate
on this level I have come across many things that provide ample reason for
taking action in our defense.    

There are those who find the politics of smoking to be a boring subject.
 There are others who think that if we pretend like nothing's wrong the
anti-smoking movement will somehow go away.  Perhaps these people don't care
whether or not we'll be able to continue smoking in the future.  Point is
that, like it or not, we are ALL part of the battle.  We can either
realize this and defend ourselves, or we can do nothing and hope that someone
else will fight for us.  I regret the fact that Mr. Greenwald finds this
attitude "strident", but we are where we are because too many people have
been uninformed and uninvolved.  Any risks entailed with pipe and cigar
smoking are offset by the intangible benefits that come with the pleasure and
relaxation of our experience.  The question of whether or not the benefits
are worth the risk is a subjective one, but today's society is obsessed with
the illusion of "safety".  Our ability to make choices for ourselves has been
attacked by an absolutism which preaches that all avoidable risk is
excessive.  This has resulted in a campaign of social engineering where
anything goes as long as the desired goal is reached.  Such an abuse of
authority and power is inexcusable regardless of the cause, and we have a
right to oppose it.  My concern is to share information so that we can do so
in a substantive, factual manner. 

Best Regards,

Steve J. (Briar Man)

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Several questions

Hi Steve,
     I hope all's going well.  I'm enjoying the postings & information in the
Internet Pipe Digest.  I have several questions to ask.  
     The first is how is it possible to obtain some of the more recent back
issues of the Pipe Digest?  If it is indeed possible, could you e-mail some
of them to me?
     The 2nd question is somewhat related.  Do you know how I might subscribe
to the other Internet pipe-related mailing list, which is called "alt.pipes"
or something like that?  I'm still somewhat of a computer on-line neophyte,
so please explain it as if you were talking to a novice and not a computer
science major.
     Lastly, I'm always interested in new pipe-related gadgets, accessories,
etc.  Specifically, what lighters, tampers, etc. do other readers use &
recommend.  I've learned that regardless of what I might now be using,
someone else usually has a "better mousetrap" of some sort or another.  I
just recently treated myself to a new pipe lighter (an ITT Corona) and am
very pleased with it so far.  I lost my Colibri lighter about two years ago
and have been using Bic cigarette lighters ever since.  This new ITT Corona
is really nice!
     Take care & good smoking!
     Joe Hurley    

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From: ????????????
Subject: Pipe Digest


Keep up the good work. Just finished reading #179 while puffing on the 1994
Ascorti Christmas Pipe.  What follows are some NEWSBITS>


Dateline: Richmond, VA  28 Feb 1995
The CORPS met at  Universal Leaf Tobacco Corp. and 15 members enjoyed the
lively discussion concerning sandblasted pipes.  Considerable discussion
about the beauty and smokeability of the sandblasts, and John Eels (pipe
carver and reconditioner) explained many of the techniques. He showed some of
his work in various stages of completion.  John explained that softer briar
is easier to work with and creates the most pleasing paterns.

It was speculated that probably Dunhill started the technique back in 1926
and it was, still is, called the Dunhill Shell.  Dunhill had a patent on the

The Conclave of Richmond Pipe Smokers discussed their plans to attend the New
York Pipe Show (to be held in New Jersey) and the Charlotte, N.C. Show.
 Also, a series of meetings was scheduled to plan the CORPS SHOW in October.
 Be sure to mark Columbus Day weekend on your calendars.

The St.Louis show was briefly explored, but the members in attendance were
not sure of their calendars and an "organized club trip" will be brought up
at a future meeting.  The important point......everyone in attendance is
aware of the show and it shall be promoted in the News Letter  or on the Pipe

Lynwood Hines reported that the CORPS Show had been reported in several
The Tobacconist Magazine,  Richmond Times Dispatch, and the newsletter of
Peter Stokkebye International.  BTW, mbr. Norman Winokur's double-bowl
P.Sokkebye pipe was awarded "The Best Pipe in Show".  


will take place at the Ramada Hotel Newark International Airport. (Newark,
Festivities start Friday, March 17, 8PM with a "Welcome Reception" and the
show will end Sunday, March 19.....5 PM.  I have been to one of the earlier
two editions.  Its a good show. I purchased several bargains, including two
identical shape LARSENS....one smooth, the other sandblast.  Both are good


LOCATION CHANGE: (to benefit the resource guide, if not already adjusted)

PO Box 31194
Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33420

(407) 627-2783


Anyway, I am at the bottom of the bowl and that's it for my current

May the good Fairy of Perique smile in YOUR  your bowl..................VEJ

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From: ????????????
Subject: PD: Correction-plus


A short note to correct a typo in my original (earlier) note to the readers
of Pipe Digest.  The first sandblasts by Dunhill date back to 1916.... not
1926.  I hope this will appear in the same issue....before I get "blasted". 

The Plus mentioned above refers to Saturday, April 8.
This is the day and date of  The Carolina Briar Friar's Pipe Show.

It is a small, but very active and pleasant show. Lots of trading.
Its taking place just south of Charlotte, N.C..... Fort Mill, S.C.
Ramada Inn at Carowinds ( a Paramount Theme Park)

For additional information contact:  Dennis Congos  (704) 598-5859

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From: ????????????
Subject: New Pipe Club


I am not sure if this "Club" is in the resource guide.  News has reached
Richmond that an informal group in Chicago is going through the formation
pains the CORPS experienced 12 years ago.

The Chicagoland Pipe Collectors.
President: Michael Restchke

Does anyone have additional information?


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From: ?????????????????


My name is Gary Pesh. I am Vice President of Tobacco Barn, the largest cigar,
pipe, and tobacco retailer in the Washington, D.C. metro area. Tobacco Barn
also carries a complete line of smoking accessories. CIGARS? Tobacco Barn has
a huge selection of cigars - from Davidoffs and Astons to lower cost cigars,
from maduro to natural wrappers. Feel free to call, mail, or email us at any
of our 4 locations:

7-Corners Center
Falls Church VA, 22044
(703) 536-5588
Contact: Gary Pesh
EMAIL: ?????????????????

Pentagon City Fashion Center
Arlington, VA 22202
(703) 415-5554
Contact: Jim Kosch

Springfield Mall
Springfield, VA 22150
(703) 971-1933
Contact: John Boyd

Manassas Mall
Manassas, VA 22110
(703) 330-9753
Contact: John Coruzzolo


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From: ????????????????????????? (Gary G Bliesener)
Subject: Maryland Smoking Ban

Dear Steve and fellow pipists,

  For those of you who have not heard, Maryland is about to impose America's
strictest anti-smoking law to date.  This law bans smoking in all workplaces.
I understand, without having seen the actual text, that smoke-shops are
excluded.  There is a movement in the state legislature to grant exemptions to
restaurants and bars, but the exemptions have not been voted upon yet, while
the full ban passed last year.  Yet another reason to move out of Maryland,
once known as the Free State...  (The other reasons - taxes, taxes, taxes, ...,
but I digress.)

  On a brighter note, the Bliesener family spent February 25 exploring northern
Philadelphia, where I discovered the pleasures of Tobacco Village.  Note to
Steve: the resource guide has the address as Roosevelt Mall (which is actually
an outdoor shopping center - I was under dressed for the weather).  It should

  Tobacco Village
  Northeast Plaza
  7300 Bustleton Avenue
  (Cottman & Bustleton Avenues)
  Philadelphia, PA 19149
  (215) 745-7040

The proprietors, Irv Lupoff and Louise Hood-Lupoff were very pleasant,
knowledgeable, and helpful.  I purchased and inexpensive half-bent pipe called
a Main Street (attractive Lucite mouthpiece, Corsican Briar) for $24 and a tin
of MacBaren's Virginia #1.  They have a wall full of pipes in ranging in price
from under $20 to over $250 and a very extensive collection of commercial and
in-house tobaccos.  The commercial tobaccos included Dunhill, McClelland,
MacBaren, and many others that escape my aging memory.  They encourage everyone
to try a bowlful of any of their in-house tobaccos.  I tried Black Velvet - it
was nothing to get too excited over.  They also have cigars, but no walk in

				Smoky regards,
				Gary Bliesener

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(To a flashy dresser:) "Sure, if you'll turn down the volume on your

                                - From "101 Ways to Answer the
                                  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #180 -- March 6, 1995
  2. Subject: Re: sad future for pipes????
  3. Subject: Re: Cigar club in the Bay Area
  4. Subject: internet cigar shop
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #179 -- February 26, 1995
  6. Subject: Tobacco Article
  7. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #179 -- February 26, 1995
  8. Subject: RE: Your Pipes Digest subscription request
  9. Subject: Pipes Digest #179 -- February 26, 1995
  10. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #179 -- Febr...
  11. Subject: RE: Caminetto
  12. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #179 -- February 26, 1995
  13. Subject: Any good American-made pipes?
  14. Subject: Pipes Digest #179 -- February 26, 1995
  15. Subject: Hello all
  16. Subject: New AT Pipe smoking.
  17. Subject: Pipes
  18. Subject: literature
  19. Subject: Another Fine Quality Shop
  20. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscri...
  21. Subject: Junk Mail
  22. Subject: Uneven burns
  23. Subject: arturo fuente
  24. Subject: The Brothers Clinton & Cigars
  25. Subject: Re: First response......
  26. Subject: Update, for what it's worth
  27. Subject: PIPE DIGEST
  28. Subject: Use of Pipes Digest to send commercial junk mail
  29. Subject: Junk mail (Re: Humidor Kits!!!)
  30. Subject: Introduction
  31. Subject: newcomer
  32. Subject: Intro
  33. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #179 -- Febr...
  34. Subject: Liberty Tabacco
  35. Subject: Blatherings, Part 354024975
  36. Subject: Several questions
  37. Subject: Pipe Digest
  38. Subject: PD: Correction-plus
  39. Subject: New Pipe Club
  41. Subject: Maryland Smoking Ban
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