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Subject: Pipes Digest #182 -- March 20, 1995

		 Pipes Digest #182 -- March 20, 1995
	     Copyright (C) 1995 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 987

Welcome to new members:

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INTERESTING FACTS: From a source you'd never expect, too! 

"Pipe smokers who inhale live just as long as nonsmokers. Pipe smokers
who don't inhale live longer than nonsmokers (death rate 20% less than
for nonsmokers.)" 
			- Surgeon General's Report
			  Public Health Service Publication #1103, p. 92

"Death rates for current pipe smokers are little if at all higher than
for nonsmokers even with men smoking 10 pipefuls per day and with men
who had smoked pipes for more than 30 years."

			- Ibid, p. 112

Got these at the NY Pipe Club show last weekend; to whoever took the
time to copy these and handed them out, thanks!

NEWS NOTE: Regular readers of alt.smokers.cigars already know this,
but a warehouse of Arturo Fuente's was destroyed by fire last
week. Get yer AFs while you still can!

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             Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
                        Call -- Write -- Vote
                        Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: JTH <????????????????????>
Subject: Ronia pipes

About a week ago, my girlfriend managed to get me to stop in at a 2nd 
hand store we were driving by (ooh boy twist my arm I thought, because 
there are usually some old pipes in those stores).  While we were making 
our way through the store, I happened on a pipe stand/ (glass) humidor 
with one pipe in the stand.  I'll call it a humidor because I don't know 
any better so please bear with me if I am wrong.

Good Lord, I just thought, this sounds an awful lot like one of the 
letters in a Penthouse forum... "I would have never believed it if it 
hadn't happened to me...."  Not that I have ever read that magazine or 
anything, but I digress.

I immediately set about searching for a price and was pleasantly 
surprised to see that the store only wanted $18 (canadian dollars) for 
it (the pipe, stand, and humidor).  I was not sure about the brand of the 
pipe but it looked to be in good shape of pretty good quality.

I was saddened to see that some boob had used the pipe as his (or her) 
pot pipe for the last little while before it was put in the store so it 
had a bit of a smell to it.  However, I was undaunted as the worst 
of the smell was coming from the balsa wood filter in it.  (the filter is 
gone and has not been replaced)

Needless to say, I gave the nice lady behind the counter the cash and 
walked out with my new toy.

I took it home, cleaned it out vigorously, and gave it a test drive with 
some Rattray's Black Mallory (thank you very much to Kevin Cook for 
that).  Well it worked like a charm and smoked quite well.

What I was wondering was does anyone recognize the name Ronia (for a pipe 
that is)?  Brief description;

The pipe is briar with a dark, rough finish.  It has a "bulldoggish"
shaped shank and stem (you know how bull dogs have kind of a thick
triangular shank and stem?).  The shank comes out of the bowl at about a
50 to 60 degree angle - if the bowl is sitting upright and is considered
to be at zero degrees - and continues at that angle straight all the way
through the stem.  The stem is a light chocolate brown and the bit?  (part
you put in your mouth) is wide and flat.  The bowl looks kind of
billiardish.  Where the shank and stem fit together, there is a brass or
copper spacer and on the black plastic tenon which fits into the shank it
says "Savinelli patent".  On the bottom of the bowl there is a very faint
imprint in a smooth portion which has the word "Ronia" with the R in a
sheild.  There is also an "S" (in a sheild with two pipes over the
sheild), the number 627, and "Italy". 

The stand was made by a company called "Decatur" from Decatur, Indiana 
and it was made to fit the glass humidor on one half of the stand and 
three pipes on the other half.

All in all I liked the set alot and felt it was worth more than the 18 
(plus tax) that I paid for it.  I don't know about the pipe though.  I 
entertained ideas that it was something special because of the Savinell 
patent part of it but I stopped myself from getting any big ideas until I 
ran it past some of the more experienced members of the digest (I have 
only been smoking pipes and cigars for a year now and while I may like to 
fancy myself a connoisseur at times, I have to be careful that I don't 
get too hoity toity and make an ass of myself).

Anyways, any help some of the more knowledgeable in the group may 
wish to pass along would be much appreciated.


Jason Hayes 

The researches of many commentators have already shed considerable
darkness on this subject and it is probable that, if they continue,
we shall soon know nothing about it.                Mark Twain

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From: Jean-Pierre Merlet <??????????????????????????????????>
Subject: Advertising

I completely agree with your action on the guy using the e-mail list
for advertisement purposes. I have seen a lot of discussion on the
net about access, advertisement and so on. But we have not
to forget that the net was designed as a tool for a specific job
and he is still used this way most of the time. I used it for my
job, it helps me to organize scientific conferences and to do
that in a faster and less expensive way that fax, or to exchange
idea with fellow researchers (for example I 'm writing this message from
Japan, using my computer in France). So I would not like
to have as many many garbage paper as I have still recently in my
physical mailbox. I don't believe that we should have rules
too, but we have just to flame those advertisement guys. You would
not like that anybody come and may write down in your agenda or
open your drawers, would you? This is how I feel for e-mail junk
BTW  , about what we drink while smoking pipe Lagavulin is
okay with me , with this dutch tobacco Neptune.

[ Thanks for the support! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????
Subject: Epoxy ceramic clay pipe

Hi Steve

I have e-mail only and am not sure if this is the address I should be 
addressing. Pipes Digest #177 was passed on to me as a Dos file. It's a 
window onto a whole new world for me.

I am looking for some advice.

On sale here in South Africa is a locally made pipe made from "epoxy
ceramic clay" and rejoices in the name "The Flower Power Pipe"

It appears to be finely crafted. It's graphite gray in colour with a
satin finish, looks roughly like a Peterson, with a copper lining to the
stem which extends into a cylindrical opening in the bowl section to form
a moisture trap. The bowl is double-skinned so that the outside, so they
say, will remain fairly cool in the hand. The attraction is that, being of
a non-porous material, it presumeably will not absorb unwanted by-products
and so retain its original sweetness.

The instructions advise that it be thoroughly flushed with hot water each
day, though my experienced suggests that this may not be enough, and 
something such as surgical spirits may occasionally be required.

My uncertainty is about the Epoxy ceramic clay. My knowledge of hi-tech
materials is limited, but "epoxy" and "ceramic" sound strange together.
How does the material stand up to prolonged exposure to burning tobacco?
Does it give off even traces of strange chemicals under operating
conditions? This may be important if it does have the indefinite life
claimed for it. How does it react to surgical spirits? And so on.

If this material is fired in a kiln during the manufacture of the pipe, as
the term "ceramic" suggests, this pipe may be the holy grail I have been
searching for. What I set out to get was a porcelain or "traditional"
ceramic clay pipe, but without success. But I have not been able to 
establish whether this material is fired, or has a chemical set.

If any of your subscribers have any knowledge or experience which may help 
me, I would be most thankful if they would e-mail me direct. I undertake 
to forward any such advice to the Pipe Digest for general interest.

Many thanks

Peter Vos   Cape Town   South Africa  E-mail  ???????????????????????

[ Personally, Peter, I'll stick to briars and the occasional
calabash... but YMMV. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????? (Duane Kight)
Subject: "Spamming"*

Hi, Steve.  Thanks for dealing with the "spamming" problem  (March 6
digest, which I'm only reading this morning) so quickly and neatly.  I
didn't get any of the junk mail, but I don't think anyone should be able to
take advantage of e-mail that way.



"Does your house cry out, 'The person who lives here is exciting to
know?'"--Flanders and Swann
Duane Kight

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From: ????????????
Subject: Re: #3(3) Pipes Digest #181 -...

Hello and thank you for the welcome!

I am a 29 year old occasional pipe smoker that started smoking pipes while
fishing during my teenage years, and now like to smoke when the feet are up
and the lights are down.  Seems to be one of the most relaxing practices at
the end of a long day.  As much as I am enjoying this more frequently, I must
admit one thing.  I am still smoking that cheap Apple tobacco!  I have not
yet ventured into the "glass jars" at the tobacconist shops as of yet.  I am
ready to do so and would like some suggestions for two types of smoke: 1) my
relaxer blend, 2) my work around the house blend ( I am restoring an 1850
Victorian home in Red Bank, NJ)

Thanks for the good reading....

Fred Spreen

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Prylene Glycol???

Hi All,

  I have heard alot of things about "Oasis" and Glycol to make a good
homemade humidors for cigars.  I have bought them both, and now don't know
how much of the glycol i should use with what amount of distilled water.. I
have heard 50-50. 20-80. but i don;t know.. If you could suggest something i
would appreciate it.. Thanks alot
David G.
(Please reply e-mail because i don't know how to get it otherwise)

[ To whoever replies: I'd appreciate a copy for the next Digest, too!
-S. ]

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: American-Made Pipes (Digest 180)

	There are lots of good American pipe makers you'll probably hear
about, but I'd like to point out three in Columbus, and another up near
Cleveland that you should know about.  All make excellent pipes in a range
of prices but certainly falling within the parameters you indicated.
	Tim West (1588 Graylin Ct, Columbus OH 43225; 614-761-3465)
probably makes more freehands than traditional shapes, but he does both;
more large pipes than small; and more natural finishes than others.
	Denny Soeurs (PO Box 28712, Columbus OH 43228; 614-876-0790) makes
exclusively freehands, most of them quite large.
	Steve and Roswitha Anderson (S&R Wood Crafts, 4244 E Main St,
Columbus OH 43213; 614-338-1733) have been recognized nationally and
internationally for their pipes.  They travel extensively to shows, etc.
but also have a retail outlet (in the front of their workshop) at the
above address.  They do mostly traditional shapes, some quite large,
although Roswitha designs and carves some freehands.  (Great story here,
which maybe I'll elaborate on sometime.  Steve met Roswitha while
stationed in the Army in Germany.  He spent his off duty time traveling
around and picking the brains of all the pipe makers he could find because
he knew that's what he wanted to do when he got out.  Then he wooed and
won Roswitha, an art student, and they returned to the States to begin
making pipes.  Great people, and visiting the shop when they're in is a
	Steve Weiner (6683 Laurel Ln, Olmstead Falls, OH 44138;
216-235-9338) makes excellent pipes.  He's the only one I don't own a pipe
by, although I lust to have one.  Mostly traditonal shapes, I think.  Also
a founding member of the Ohio Pipe Collectors club and a real supporter of
the hobby (I think he donated one of his pipes as a prize for our smoking
contest at our swap\sell show last year as well as buying a table).  A
great guy.
	These are all good people who would be happy to send literature or
answer questions about their pipes, but if you think you might go for an
old Charaton or Peterson, you should call Mick or Bob at Barclay Pipe and
Tobacco in Columbus (614-486-4243) to ask about what they have in their
large estate section.  Don't write--these pipes turn over too quickly for
	Happy hunting.
Bill Unger

[ Thanks, Bill! Good material for the "Repairs & Custom Carving"
section of the Guide. -S. ]

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Lost Pipe Author

While reading a 1990 back issue of Tom Dunn's Pipe Smokers' Ephereris, I
came across the name and address of Robert W. Stokes, Ph.D. of Houston TX,
author of the Collector's Guide to Kaywoodie Pipes, which I immediately
lusted to have.  However, my letter to Dr. Stokes came back marked "not at
this address."  If anybody out there has any information on Dr. Stokes or
how to procure a copy of the Guide, I would be most grateful.
Bill Unger

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: change of address


Please let it be known that my adress has changed from ??????????????????? 
-to- ?????????????????   I hope that changing will not be a regular thing, but 
I am having problems with service providers.  Please let all my fellow PDers 
know, as I have posted notes. 


"Every battle is won, before it is ever fought"			Sun-Tzu
Thomas G. Smith, Jr.

[ Usually I don't print changes of address, but since you requested
it, here 'tis. Thanks for the update! -S. ]

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From: "AARON L LUSTER" <?????????????????????????>
Subject:       Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request

Thanks for including me in your group.  I am a newcomer to the email 
and pipe scene.  I have had an email account for nearly a month and a 
pipe for nearly a week (although I have been a cigar afficionado for 
nearly a year and a half now).  

Many of my most enjoyable moments in life have been accompanied by a 
cigar.  I remember nights in Mexico where the temperature was sixty-
five degrees with a cool ocean breeze and there was a Cuban Romeo y 
Julieta Churchill with that one.  After a long day of work and school 
coming in to grill steaks with your friends, drinking a few beers and 
then pulling out the Macanudos for many hours of great discussion.

I think that cigars elevate thinking to a higher plane.  They provide 
for concentration as well as providing a link among friends.  Any 
topic can be broached with a cigar in hand.

As for my favorite cigar...I have had three Cubans which lived up to 
their reputation, all three were Romeo y Julieta Churchills, as there 
was a shortage of Cohibas and Montecristos on my visit to Mexico.  In 
the meantime (time between Cubans always passes as "in the meantime") 
I smoke Macanudos and Joya de Nicaraguas.  Since I live in northeast 
Arkansas (no, I didn't vote for Clinton for governor, much less 
president) my only local link to cigars is the local tobacco shop, 
whose humidor is nonexistent and variety is even worse.  Usually I 
drive to Memphis to get my cigars, unless I have a terrible hankering 
for a cigar that particular night.

As for the pipe scene, I have just started.  My first few attempts 
have failed humiliatingly.  I either don't pack the bowl enough, or I 
stop it up entirely.  I'm working on the balance and hope to perfect 
it soon so I will be up to speed on the pipe sceen.

Again thanks for admittance and remember...

A man of genius makes no mistakes.  His errors are volitional and are 
portals of discovery.                      - James Joyce


[ I'll have to remember that one! -S. ]

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From: "Mark D. Lamoree" <????????????????????????>
Subject: Chicago Area Pipe or Cigar Clubs?

	I thought that I would delurk briefly to ask if there are any 
pipe or cigar clubs in the Chicago area.  As I am an impoverished college 
student,(and a goateed twenty-something-don't hold it against me)the 
steak dinner type clubs are not an option.  I would be grateful for any 
pointers fellow tobaccophiles might have about this.
	An aside:I noticed several weeks ago that Sheldon Richman(If I 
remember correctly) from the CATO institute has joined the group.  I 
would like to extend hearty greetings and kudos to him.  As a Liberal in 
the classical sense of the term, I am deeply appriciative of CATO's work.

Mark D. Lamoree			     :  I Am Not a Number, I Am a Free Man!
????????????????????????	     :			-#6
Loyola University, Chicago	     :	My Mind Is Not For Rent.
Citizen, Libertarian, Gun Owner      :	                -Howard Roark
               If The Dream Is Won, Though Everything Is Lost, 
           We Will Pay the Price, But We Will not Count the Cost -Neil Peart

[ I know of at least three:

Chicagoland Pipe Collectors Club	(Pipes Digest #181)
Contact: Mike Reschke
(708) 620-5033
or: Rex Poggenpohl

Cigar Connoisseurs of Chicago
Chicago, IL

Jack Schwartz Importers			(Cigar club and store; Pipes
175 W. Jackson				 Digest #173)
(in The Insurance Exchange Building)
Chicago, IL
Joe Howe, owner
(312) 782 7898

There's also someone on alt.smokers.cigars who's trying to organize a
club. ~\U S. ]

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From: "mark rice, east-texas" <???????????????>
Subject: Bright leaf tobacco

In a recent issue of PD, there was some interest in what "Bright" tobacco
leaf was. A few years back I bought a book at a huge used-book sale.  The
book, entitled "the American Tobacco story", explains the origins and 
growth of the American Tobacco Company (ATC).  Copyrighted in 1964, the book 
shows the ATC's various products (Pall Mall, Tareton, Montclair, 
Carlton, and Lucky Strike) and the manufacturing processes of the 
tobacco. There is a section that talks about the different leaf types 
(but not much) and how they differ.  

Here's what they said: 
"When Bright leaves are ripe they are stripped individually from the 
stalks, a process known as 'priming.'  Even this is no simple plucking 
procedure, for each leaf of tobacco must be separated from the parent 
plant just as it reaches full ripeness.  Burley plants are stalk-cut....  

"Cigarette leaf involves more than agriculture:  before it 
goes to market,  the tobacco must be cured.  Curing varies with the region
--Burley and Maryland leaf is are-cured, hung in barns at normal 
temperatures and under controlled humidity until the tobacco is dry.  In 
Turkey, tobacco is spread to dry in the sun.  Bright tobacco, which has 
constituted half or more of every big brand ever since cigarettes became 
the favorite form of smoking, is flue-cured.  Intensive heat is needed to 
drive out all the moisture while retaining the prized lemon or orange 
color.  Flue-curing is a touchy and exhausting business, sometimes lasting
three or four days... 

"Although Bright and Burley make up the largest part of most blends, a
'seasoning' amount of Turkish leaf is needed...  A fourth variety of 
tobacco,   Maryland, appears on its own markets in and around Baltimore.  
Maryland is a large brown leaf, much like Burley in appearance.  It is 
unusually free-burning and contributes a characteristic nutlike flavor." 
That's all they discuss about tobacco varieties.  Not sure it provided any
great insight, but it may have answered someone's curiousity.

Mark Rice <???????????????>

[ Are Bright leaves used much in any blends for pipe of which you're
aware? -S. ]

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From: "E. John Graham" <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: High Quality American-Made 

In Digest #180, Joe Hurley inquired about high quality American-made pipes.
Joe, I recommend that you look into pipes made by Elliot Nachwalter
at Pipeworks and Wilke in Vermont.  I believe their address is on the 
Digest list (in case you can't find it their telephone is 1-800-832-8309).

I bought my first Nachwalter pipes when he was learning his craft at the
Briar Workshop in Coral Springs, Florida.  I was attracted to them because
they had the idiosyncrasies of a true hand-made, without the artistic 
flourishes of the "Danish-style" pipes.  They are unique without being
extravagant or "showy."  He shows a wonderful sense of proportion in his
work, which is often lacking in other pipe carvers.

For years Elliot and Pipeworks and Wilke had a wonderful pipe and tobacco
shop in New York City.  Regrettably it was closed about a year or so ago.
I'm not sure where his shop is located in Vermont, however, he does sell 
his unique pipes and quality tobacco through the mail.  

Joe, you can't go wrong with a Nachwalter pipe.  They are, without a doubt,
my favorites.  BTW, I too like the idea of buying American.

John Graham
Yellow Springs, Ohio

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From: Sheldon Richman <???????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Digest

Dear Steve,
   The Digest just gets better each time.  I want to relate an
experience that someone might be able to explain for me.  On the
recommendation of a friend, I bought a tin of Dunhill's Royal Yacht.
Wow!  After a few puffs, my head was spinning and my legs got rubbery.
Had I been driving, I would have pulled over.  I couldn't believe my
reaction.  When I tried it the next day, same thing happened.

   I decided I had enough.  Luckily, my friend was willing to trade me a tin of
Dunhill's Elizabethan Blend for the RY.  I like Elizabethan very much--very
tasty and it doesn't get me high.

   What could account for that reaction?  The nicotine?  Thanks for any

   My other news on the pipe front is that I retrieved several of my
late father's old pipes.  He had a small but very nice collection.  I
reamed them and ran a rum-soaked pipe cleaner through them.  They
smoke wonderfully.

   Sheldon Richman

[ Nicotine's one possibility.  Another, which I've encountered from
time to time, is swallowing a bit of juice. This has the same effect,
and the thrill wears off quickly. Try the Yacht again, in an open
area, and with mouth kept scrupulously dry. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????????????? (Eric Allstott)
Subject: Hello

I'm just not used to such fast response to email, that's all. 

I was glad to happen onto this group.  The more I explore the
internet the more I am amazed at its' breadth and versatility.
There truley is something for everyone!

For introductory purposes... I am 26. I grew up in Oregon.  Went
to college there and everything.  Now I work at Colorado State
University as a research associate.  My job consists mainly of
maintaining a weather station and taking water samples in an 
acidification study up in Rocky Mt. National Park.  Outside of
work I listen to a lot of music (preferably live), I ski, backpack,
climb, and all that crap, and I enjoy reading all sorts of things 
(from labels on paint cans to Walt Whitman to Stephen King).  There
are other things I like, but I want to leave some element of suspense 
out there for you all.  I am a moderate smoker (meaning sometimes
I'll smoke a bowl every day and sometimes I won't smoke for a month).
My main dewice (as my friend Dimitri used to say) is a Stanwell.  I
also use an old ceramic bowl that was handed down to me from my 
Grandpa.  So far, I've mainly been smoking tobaccos from the Up-Down
Smoke Shop in Chicago.  Pretty nice tasting, but kind of syrupy.
My pipe gurgles after 20-30 puffs, even after I let the leaf dry out
a bit.  I guess that brings me to a question that was on my mind.   

What is the consensus on Edwards Tobacco.  I was talking with
the fella who owns the Edwards shop here in Fort Collins and he
had some interesting things to say.  One of them that I was curious
about is how their tobaccos smoke to ash a lot easier than others.
He attributed this to the lack of chemical and other treatments
other companies put into the tobacco for taste, increased burning
time, etc.  I did smoke a bowl of their Kentucky Bourbon last night,
and it did burn readily to ash.  Are there any other brands out there
that people have happened on to which burn cool and clean and taste
like Nirvana?

God, look at the time. Well, no don't unless you have to.  I gotta go.

Take it slow!

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From: "Eric S. McCarson" <??????????????????>
Subject: Albuquerque area report.

Hello all.  I am 27 years old and have been enjoying cigars and pipes
for about 5 years.  I am writing to tell everyone about a premier
event that happened just last Tuesday.  We had the first ever cigar
smokers night in the entire state of New Mexico.  It was held in
Albuquerque at the Baker Street Bar and Grill.  The original
attendance was estimated to be around 25.  By the time they had sold
the final tickets, over 75 people were there.  The Baker Street
establishment has even opened a cigar room just next to the existing
bar area.  There were samples of single malt scotch, ports, and
imported beers.  Everything was excellent!  There were even around 5
ladies at the event.  Just having them there seemed to add class to
the event.  There are already plans for another cigar night sometine
in the near future.  I am glad to have been involved in a premier
event such as this.

As long as I'm writing, I would like to give you the names of two very
reputable tobacco shops in the Albuquerque area.

     Pueblo Pipe Shop & Men's Gifts
     2685 Louisianna Blvd. NE
     Phone: (505) 881-7999

     Stag Tobacconist - Tony King,owner
     11200 Montgomery Blvd. NE
     Suite #27
     Phone: (505) 237-9366

These are both first class establishments.  I know that both of these
places have gone out of their way to fill their customer's needs.

Thanks for having this digest as a vehicle to bring allof us a little closer.

                Eric S. McCarson

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Pipes

[ Mailgroup announcement deleted. -S. ]

   Please allow me to subscribe to the list at ??????????????????
   BTW, I looked in the Pipes-Digest directory at netcom.com, but I 
did not notice a FAQ. Could you kindly direct me to a copy, or send me 
one? Thanks in advance.

P.S. The pipes-digest archives are in /pub/br/brookfld at netcom.com. 
Evidently they have changed their directory structure. Prior docs have 
referred to a "/pub/brookfld" dir.

  Gerry Uba     KD4RJM     Internet: ?????????????????
  310 Woodbine St. B4-3    Voice: (804) 458-2173 
  Hopewell VA 23860
[ Thanks for the update! If the URL gets any longer, though, I'm going
to have to make major changes to the .sig. :-) -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Subscribe

Hello, I work for Marty Pulvers in San Francisco.  He is the proprietor of
Sherlock's Haven in Embarcadero Center.  I taking on the responsibility of
putting up a home page for his company on the WWW, but I am also considering
other advertising possibilities.  I would like to be placed on the mailing
list so that I can have an opportunity to see the sorts of things that are
out on the net.  Assuming there is no advertising potential, the information
will still be immensely useful.

Thank You Very Much

Nanosh J. Lucas
Sherlock's Haven

[ Please let us know when the Web page is up, Nanosh! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: Me an my smoke

Thanks for the welcome.  Happy to be in with some smokers.
Hope I'm not frowned upon because my choice is cigarettes.
I roll my own.  Have for many years.  Can't stand any wimpy store bought
Just wanted to say hey and see how my little comment passes by
Again, its glad be be away from non-smokers.

[ Welcome ot Our Club, Mike! No frowning allowed, and I don't wanna
catch ANY of the faculty not drinking! :-)  -S. ]

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From: Ed Berggren <????????????????>
Subject: http://www.craycos.com/~beaty/pipes/pipes.html

Hello, Steve
   Imagine that--my very first day on the Internet and the first place I 
look for (and, obviously, found) is a place for pipe smokers to gather.  
Needless to say, I'm glad you've carved out a niche on the WWW.  I've 
been spending a couple of hours on company time (oh well, it's Friday and 
most everyone else is asleep anyway), cruising through the various 
articles, questions, submissions, etc. that you offer.  I have every 
intention of revisiting whenever things get crazy.
  Needless to say, I'm a pipe smoker (also cigars; also, sorry to say, 
cigarettes, but here in the uncivilized state of California one has to go 
outside to smoke and with only five minute increments available to us, 
cigarettes are it).  I have been off and on (mostly on, but there was a 
period when dental problems hampered my ability to hold a pipe between my 
teeth--not that you're at all interested in my dental problems).  I'm 
glad to see that we're not a dying breed, but that pipe smokers are here, 
there, and everywhere.
   I have about 30 pipes in my collection (a lot of Comoys.  I tend to 
like Comoys, but also a few GBDs, Chacoms, and a couple of freehands).  
My favorite tobaccos are an aromatic called Rick's Blend offered by the 
Poor Richard's Pipe Shoppe in San Bernardino, Dunhill's Mixture 965, yet 
another English blend called Barrister offered by the Claremont Tobacco 
House in Claremont, CA, and Iwan Reis's 3-Star Blue.
   My very first piece of E-Mail (this is my second) was a request to 
subscribe to the Digest.  I certainly hope it went through okay and I 
look forward to being on your list.  Thanks to all of you who are willing 
to spend the time giving smokers a place to visit and relax with fellow 
pipe smokers.

[ It's an honor! And I'm glad it was successful. Welcome! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????? (Matthew Denney)
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request

Hi Steve!

Thanks for the warm welcome to the Pipes Digest Mailgroup.

Your intro asked me to tell you guys a little more about myself, and this
seems to be a good time to do it.

I've been smoking a pipe off and on for about 8 years or so, when I started
in college because I liked the smell (original, huh?).  I tend toward
lightly cased aromatics (The Humidor's Suite 111 in San Antonio is a
favorite), but also enjoy some of the lighter English blends with a touch
of latakia.  My smoking habits vary throughout the year..harldly any during
the warmer months, four or five bowls a week during the Winter, when I
enjoy curling up in front of a roaring fire with a good book, my pipe and a
glass of single malt.

I've really enjoyed the couple of issues you've sent so far.  I've learned
a lot, and I look forward to contributing.

Thanks again.


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From: Bill Shroyer <???????????????>
Subject: New Address

	I recently changed my net access provider to Sonic.net here in 
Santa Rosa so if you could please send the mailer to 
I'd appreciate it.

	I'd also like to say that my wife gave birth last month to my 
first child, Rachel Ann.  For the occasion, I didn't want to give out the 
generic "It's a girl" cigars as there are many smokers where I work.  
Finding the right cigar was quite a chore ;^)  as I also didn't want to 
go broke.  After much puffing and sipping (scotch) with my neighbor, I 
decided upon the Arturo Fuente 8-5-8 natural.  Not too big, not too 
strong, quite fairly priced and an excellent smoke.  Sooo, everyone got a 
good stogie and my wife didn't kill me when she saw the returned check!

Bill Shroyer

[ Warm congrats on Rachel Ann's debut, Dad! And on having bought the
8-5-8s _prior_ to the fire! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????

   Burak in NYC makes some very good pipes in all price ranges.
Although his so called custom blended tobaccos are merely
Macbaren bulk blends, for an outstanding selection of custom blended tobaccos
I refer fellow readers to Wilkes in Vermont.
Also for great deals on many different top quality American
pipes,(new and estate) I  would highly recommend Levin pipes
in California.

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From: ????????????????
Subject: New premium cigar from JR Tobacco

Jose Marti, a brand new cigar from Jr tobacco is an excellent
smoke. Connecticut wrapper, Dominican binder and filler. 
This is a very silky smooth cigar with a nice clean finish
and a subtle hint of nuts and spice. The same quality as Macanudo yet about
one third the price! call for info.
           JR TOBACCO

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From: ????????????????????????? (Gary G Bliesener)
Subject: More on the Smoking Ban in Maryland

Dear Steve and all fellow pipe smokers,

  In Pipes Digest #180 I told a little about Maryland's soon to be imposed
smoking ban.  In it I made a factual error.  The actual ban did not pass last
year, but is being imposed by executive order of the governor (yes, he is a
Democrat).  Since my last missive I have learned a bit more about actual
contents of the executive order.  Severe financial penalties are to be levied
upon employers if their employees sneak a smoke.  These fines start at $5,000
and can reach up to $70,000 per day (!) for repeat offenders.  The order not
only applies to the employers place of business, but also to any company
vehicle with two or more employees within it that are driving about on company
business!  (Evidently he has never heard of windows.)  I believe this order
will have a chilling effect on the employment of smokers.
  On the bright side, such as it is, there appear to be a veto proof majority
in both houses of the state legislature to exempt the "hospitality" industry,
i.e., bars, restaurants, hotels, etc.  This was strictly a dollars and cents
response to the imminent loss of major convention business in Baltimore.  There
is, unfortunately, no movement to rescind in its entirety this latest
encroachment on our freedoms.  So once again we see the sphere of government
approved behavior shrinking as it is nibbled upon by those who know what is
best for us.  After all, this is Maryland, where it is illegal to smoke in your
seat at Camden Yards (an open air baseball stadium for those non-sports pipe
  On a more cheerful note I purchased a pipe Saturday from Faders on
Reisterstown Road, about a half mile outside the Baltimore Beltway.  I hoped to
be able to identify its generic type from the pictures on the Pipes Digest Web
page, but alas, nothing resembles it.  (Amateur attempt at ascii graphics
follows - real pipe is much more graceful.)

     ____  _____
     \   | |   /
      \  |_|  /   <--- outside

The pipe is a half-bent and has the most capacious bowl in my admittedly small
collection.  It took me well over an hour last night to finish my first ever
bowlful of Troost's Aromatic.  (Smelled enticing in the pouch, final opinion
awaits completion of pipe break-in).  I am starting to prefer half-bents as
they are easier for me to light since I now wear bifocals and I really don't
want to char the top of the bowl.

				Smoky regards,
				Gary Bliesener

[ Please remind us when the governor of Maryland comes up for
re-election!  I guess there's no problem there with the economy, or
the environment, or the crime rate they've _already_ got... -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (Ed Berggren)
Subject: Re:  http://www.craycos.com/~beaty/pipes/pipes.html

Hello, Steve,
  Received your introductory materials. Thanks.  Have spent some time
looking at the various files, back issues, etc.  Am thoroughly enjoying
  Of course, I haven't had time to read everything, but what I have read
has been interesting.  I have noticed no mention of the Iwan Ries Co., so I
thought I might tell you about them so you can add them to your list of
tobacconists.  I learned about IRC in a roundabout way.  In Richard
Hacker's pipe book, he mentions IRC's 3-Star Blue pipe tobacco in a
favorable light, so when I stumbled upon some at a local drug store, I
purchased a package and found that I liked it.  Inside was a coupon which I
sent in to recieve their mail order catalog (more of a price list, really).
Then a couple of weeks ago, I happened to be in Chicago on business, so I
made it a point to drop in on the IRC retail store.
  I found the people there to be very friendly and knowledgeable.  They
have an extensive selection of pipes (they claim theirs is the largest
selection in the country), tobaccos (both their own blends and many
commercial), cigars, and accessories--all of which are available via mail.
They even have a small museum featuring many ornately carved pipes of briar
and meershaum.
  Anyway, their address and phone is:
  Iwan Ries & Co.
  19 South Wabash
  Chicago, IL  60603-3182
  (312) 372-1306
  Phone Orders:  (800) 621-1457 (24 hrs/day; 7 days/week)
  Fax Orders:  (312) 372-1416

[ Thanks! They're already in the Guide. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipe Repair (Midwest)

The three best pipe repair shops in the Midwest are:
*  Cullen Fletcher, 1637 E. 87th Street, Chicago, IL  60617  (312) 221-6669
former pipe maker for Victory Craftsmen (Cellini) good and inexpensive.
*  Clarence Mickels, Sr., 321 Oswego, Park Forest, IL  60466  (708) 748-7293
part-time pipemaker, does repairs for fellow members of Chicagoland Pipe
Collectors Club, good but slow.
*  Rich Lewis, Nicolet Mall, Minneapolis, can recreate collectible pipe stems
including most brand stamps, good but expensive.

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: North American pipemakers?

Joe:  Here are some of the best ones alive today:

James Boswell, Pennsylvania

Mike Butera, contact Aromas,  (210) 590-1802

Elliot Nachtwalter, RR1 Box 275, Shaftsbury, VT 05262  (800) 832-8309

Andrew Marks, Middlebury, VT  (802) 388-3177

Dennis Roth, Des Moines, IA

S & R Woodcrafts, Columbus, OH  (800) 828-2535

Juliu s Vesz, Royal York Hotel, 100 Front St. W.,Toronto

Tim West, Columbus, OH  (614) 761-3465

Regards, .......Rex

[ This Digest has really filled out the list of carvers! Thanks! -S. ]

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                       Today's Snappy Comeback:

(To a pretty woman:) "Yes, but that can not extinguish the fire in (a)
my heart. (b) your eyes. (c) your hair." 

                                - From "101 Ways to Answer the
                                  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
                                  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #182 -- March 20, 1995
  2. Subject: Ronia pipes
  3. Subject: Advertising
  4. Subject: Epoxy ceramic clay pipe
  5. Subject: "Spamming"*
  6. Subject: Re: #3(3) Pipes Digest #181 -...
  7. Subject: Prylene Glycol???
  8. Subject: American-Made Pipes (Digest 180)
  9. Subject: Lost Pipe Author
  10. Subject: change of address
  11. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request
  12. Subject: Chicago Area Pipe or Cigar Clubs?
  13. Subject: Bright leaf tobacco
  14. Subject: Re: High Quality American-Made
  15. Subject: Pipe Digest
  16. Subject: Hello
  17. Subject: Albuquerque area report.
  18. Subject: Pipes
  19. Subject: Subscribe
  20. Subject: Re: Me an my smoke
  21. Subject: http://www.craycos.com/~beaty/pipes/pipes.html
  22. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request
  23. Subject: New Address
  25. Subject: New premium cigar from JR Tobacco
  26. Subject: More on the Smoking Ban in Maryland
  27. Subject: Re: http://www.craycos.com/~beaty/pipes/pipes.html
  28. Subject: Re: Pipe Repair (Midwest)
  29. Subject: North American pipemakers?
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