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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest #184 -- April 1, 1995

		  Pipes Digest #184 -- April 1, 1995
	     Copyright (C) 1995 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 1029

Welcome to new members:

	 Joe Falcone			(???????????????)
	 Seth A. Berk			(??????????????????????)
	 Edward Winston			(??????????????)
	 Jeff Hayes			(???????????????????????????)
	 Martin McGinty			(????????????????????????)
	 Marcel Frauenknecht		(?????????????????????????????????????)
	 ???				(??????????????????)
	 David Quisenberry		(????????????????????)
	 Jeffrey Grossman		(??????????????)
	 Roberto Holguin		(?????????????????????????????)
	 Chris Tarman			(?????????????)
	 Philip Barnes			(???????????????????????)
	 ???				(??????????????????)
	 Tom Eisenhour			(?????????????????????)
	 Scott D. Gleason		(?????????????????????????)
	 Todd R. Schroeder		(??????????????????????)

We've got a REAL headline this week! See below!

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             Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
                        Call -- Write -- Vote
                        Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: ???????????????????????? (Steve Masticola)
Subject: Rothman Exposes Waxman!

Found this in the Trenton Courier-Ledger this morning. Reproduced
verbatim, without permission.  In a word, WOW! -S.


Dateline: Trenton Courier-Ledger, April 1, 1995, p. 5 col. 1
Headline: Tobacco Crusader Waxman `Outed' As Closet Smoker

SELMA, NC (AP): Lew Rothman, flamboyant president of the popular
J.R. Cigar mail order tobacco house, today announced that Congressman
Henry Waxman (D,CA) has been a steady customer for years.

"He usually buys a box of cigars about once a month," Rothman said in
a telephone interview yesterday. "But he's a real cheapskate.  Always
buys the ten-dollar-a-box factory seconds, the real stinkeroos.  And
he never pays on time."

Waxman, as chair of the House Subcommittee on Health and the
Environment, had conducted a highly publicized campaign against the
tobacco industry last year, which included televised grilling of
industry executives.  Thomas Bliley (R,PA), a pipe smoker, replaced
Waxman as chairman of the committee in the current Congress.

Rothman says that he made the announcement now because "I've had it
with that dried-out little creep.  He owes me six hundred dollars in
unpaid bills, and wants me to write it off.  Called me at my home
about it.  At eleven at night.  Woke up LaVonda [Rothman's wife] and
the kids."

Rothman stated that Waxman "...said to make [the unpaid balance] a
campaign contribution.  Like I'd give a nickel to see that humorless
little goniff re-elected.  I'll send a bushel of Avo pyramids to
whoever beats him."

Rothman continued, "I tried to be nice to that little hypocrite,
because he is a customer and a Congressman.  I even sat still while he
put on that monkey trial in Washington.  But this is too much.  The
nerve of the guy!"

Reliable sources at other mail-order cigar retailers confirmed that
Waxman had been "a regular buyer, if not a particularly desirable

Congressman Bliley declined to make a statement for the record, but
was overheard to say, "Couldn't happen to a nicer guy."

Congressman Waxman could not be reached for comment.


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From: ??????????????
Subject: Misc. questions

Hi Steve,
Just a quick note and a couple of questions--would you please check to make
sure my name didn't inadvertantly get bumped from the Pipe Digest mailing
list?  My e-mail address is ???????????????   For some reason I never
received last week's digest until I wrote to you later in the week (thanks
for sending it then!!).  As of this writing I haven't received this week's
issue either, but I realize that it may not have been sent out yet.
You're doing a great job with the digest.  I've been printing them out each
week and passing them around to other pipe & cigar smokers that I work with.
 The Pipe Digest is probably the most civilized and gentlemanly area on the
entire Internet (at least compared with what I've come across!).
Did you ever repair your Corona lighter?  I'm curious, as I have one also and
really like it so far.  Hopefully it will hold up for a long time.  
Thanks again, Steve, and have a good week.
Joe Hurley

[ Quite a few people didn't get #182; if anyone else wants the back
copy, just let me know. -S. ]

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From: "Jacco van Muiswinkel" <??????????????????????>
Subject:       Re: 

Dear Steve (and all the other readers),

I didn't introduce myself earlyer because I first wanted to see what 
was already being discussed in this digest. Nobody likes old 
discussions started allover again! 

So here I am. My name is Jacco van Muiswinkel and I live in Utrecht 
in the Netherlands. I'm married and am owned by four cats. I've been 
smoking pipes for about one year now and can't properly pass a 
shopwindow and not buy a new pipe (just like most of you probably).

My most recent buy is a type of pipe I've been looking for ever since 
I bought my first pipe. Its a bent with a small bowl and a narrow 
bit. Most bents have verrrry wide bits and my grin has grown 
considerably while smoking them ;-> I like the smaller bowl because I 
don't always have more than an hour to smoke it. 

Okay now the Item I wanted to introduce is the question of Inhaling. 
Not Inhaling Yes or No? But Inhaling to what extent. My wife smokes 
sigarets and does not inhale she says. She takes the smoke up to her 
throat. The 'taking in the smoke' consists of an action of the lungs.
I myself use my tongue to take in smoke and thus can't come any 
further than the back of my mouth. When I take my puff I can 
concurrently breathe through my nose. 
I wonder if others do like me. 

To end this posting there's a funny story. I received the Pipes 
Digest HOWTO and there in the section concerning the different types 
of tobacco it stated:"The best Cavendish in my opinion is the dutch 
(Dutch) blend Amphora red pouch". I had never tried it myself but the 
it seems that good tobacco is being made right under my nose, in my 
own home town. I don't know if I agree with Elias Mazur that Its the 
best but its amongst them shurely.

Steve: Keep up the good work and Smoke (as you say) in peace.

Jacco van Muiswinkel         | 
??????????????????????????   |  

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: My Introductory Posting to the Newsletter

     Attached as an ascii (DOS) text piece

Dear Steve and Fellow Tobacco Enthusiasts,

While I have now received and enjoyed three "issues" of the Pipes
Digest, I am delinquent in providing an introductory post of my own.
I thoroughly enjoy the digest and never before realized that reading
about others' introductions to pipe and cigar smoking could be so much
fun.  I especially appreciate the informal reviews of particular
tobaccos and cigars as I am always trying new things myself.

For my own part, I am a thirty-two year old Environmental Lawyer.  I
am presently in the employ of the Federal Government, working on
Habitat Conservation Plans with large and small forest landowners in
the Pacific Northwest.  Yes, I am thoroughly ensconced in one of the
most roiling political/ cultural debates in our society.  Happily,
underneath all of the rhetoric, most folks (industry, government, and
environmentalists) actually working on these issues realize the need
to work together. The only reason I want to expound on my professional
background is that today's political climate has generated an
inordinate amount of thoughtless "bureaucrat bashing" without
considering that 1)not all government professionals are "bureaucrats,"
2) not all democrats/ liberals/ environmentalists (pick one or any
combination) are rabid anti smoking kooks.  With that said, I can get
on with the real business of this note!

Outside of work I am married, have two dogs and two cats, play Rugby
with the Seattle Rugby Football Club (a national caliber club) and
drive a pickup.  You see, I am just a "regular" guy.  I started
smoking an occasional cigar when I was about 13.  My pop took me on a
trip to New York City for my birthday and I remember walking with him
into a humidor about the size of our house in Connecticut (I can't
remember the store name).  My dad, a Te Amo smoker since he was 19,
bought several boxes for his home selection.  We proceeded to Lindy's
for lunch and cheesecake and then down to Battery Park for my first
cigar with a view of the Statue of Liberty.  (Symbolism is intended).
This was an August day that will remain fresh in my memory forever.  I
hope other first times are as well remembered as mine.

I started smoking a pipe in my first year of college (Doc Grabow and
Borkum Riff).  I saw the light after reading Hacker's book and set
about developing my present collection (Savinelli straight billiard,
Nording natural (signed), Ascorti, GBD, Peterson (two), etc.
Presently, I am shopping for a Calabash.  My favorite tobaks have
included Tinder Box's Balkan Sobranie, Dunhill's Nightcap, and most
Englishes with Latakia emphasis.  I once smoked a proprietary blend
from a shop in Seaport Village, San Diego called "Churchill," which I
loved but can't seem to replicate.  (Help out there anyone?)  In the
Spring, I may jump over to MacBaren's Plum Cake or a natural like
Burley Regular (any shop's pouch will do).

My cigar choices are similarly eclectic.  I no longer smoke my dad's
Te Amos (unless he's offering!).  I am partial to Punch (though my
public servant salary limits the Grand Cru's I can enjoy per year),
Hoyo de Monterey, Cuba Alliados and any Fuente!  A bonus of playing
Rugby in the Northwest are our frequent matches in British Columbia,
where occasionally I can smoke a real Habana.  Nothing like nursing
the post match bruises with a great smoke, drink and the camaraderie
of my Rugby Brethren!

I hope this note has been informative and fun.  I would like to meet
tobacco interested folks in the area for Big Smoke type get together
if any such thing occurs in the Seattle area.  I also would like
advice on Calabash buying.  Please do not hesitate to E-Mail me!

Sincerely,   David Hirsh
"That which does not kill us makes us stronger." (Traditional Rugby motto)

[ Good to know that caring about the environment doesn't have to mean
giving up the daily pipe! Welcome! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest

Steve:  Congratulations on servicing a circulation of over 1000. I can only
guess at the effort and dedication involved. I for one, really appreciate it.
Thanks and please continue  with the great job. Regards and good
smoking,....... Rex

[ Thanks, Rex! -S. ]

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From: Vince Callaway <?????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #183 -- March 27, 1995

If the pipes list needs a web site I would be more than happy to place it 
on my system (www.tacoma.net), I am just getting the server fired up and 
our new T-1 line is due in April 10th (currently a 56k).

[ Great! We may take you up on that if craycos goes away. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????? (Paul J. Ste. Marie)
Subject: Smoker success

Well, the Wharf RATS (respectable and tolerant smokers) just had yet another 
successful dinner, this time at the Dayton Marriott where we enjoyed their 
prime rib buffet, accompanied by Dunhills and Royal Jamacians.  A good time 
was had by all.

On to other things. I've been experimenting with some tinned tobaccos after 
having read favorable reviews here in the digest.  I loved Escudo, it really 
lived up to its reputation.  The Virginia aroma upon opening the tin was 
fabulous, as was the smoke.  BTW, am I crazy, or does the flavor of Escudo 
evolve after opening the tin?  The first few bowls weren't nearly as rich as 
what I experienced towards the end of the tin.

Dunhill's early AM was also pretty good.  After loving the first pouch I 
bought, I filled my humidor with a 1/4 pound of it.  Unfortunately, it seems 
that the latakia is finer than the other tobaccos in the mix--it was too 
strong as I got to the bottom of the jar.

Next I went on to some "Virginia Curly-Cut" from the Wharf (see below for 
details on this fine smoke shop).  This was quite good, very similar in 
flavor to the Escudo and at $1.60/oz a lot cheaper.  Ron was out when I went 
back for more, so I tried a tin of MacBaren Dark Twist, which was also 
another real winner.  I may never go back to my usual Stokkebye aromatics.

Smoke-shops--well, my regular haunt is the Wharf in Beavercreek, Ohio.  This 
is a fine establishment, a comfortable place to sit and chat while you enjoy 
a pipe.  They have an astonishing collection of Meerschaums--the last time I 
tried counting they had over 200 in stock, mostly SMS's but also some CAO's 
and some lesser known brands.  They also have a fair number of Wiley's, 
Petersen's, Alpha's, Savinelli's, and Stanwell's; and an enormous 
cabinet-style humidor that proably occupies 25' of wall space loaded floor 
to ceiling with fine cigars.  The particulars are:

        The Wharf
        1306 N. Fairfield Road
        Beavercreek Plaza
        Beavercreek, OH  45432          (near Dayton)

Keep on puffing!

        --Paul J. Ste. Marie, ??????????????????????, ???????????????????

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Cigar Digest Intro letter

I've been greedily reading Pipes Digest for a couple months or so, and I have
not yet posted the requisite letter of introduction. Here it is at last.

My name is Christopher Milne and I live in Concord, CA. I am 38 years old. I
own my own business called Printed Circuits, also in Concord. We are a
computer consulting firm. Network installations, repair, service, training,

I started smoking a pipe about six years ago. I have 6 or 7 pipes. A
Savinelli sandblast that I like very much, a Preben Holm Danish freehand I
also like, and a few others.

After reading this magazine for a while, I'm embarrassed to admit that my
pipe tobacco tastes are not very sophisticated. I like the aromatics,
especially favoring a vanilla-ish blend sold at my local tobacco shop "The
Tobacco Loft."

I have smoked a few tins of McBarens which I like pretty well. Tried Latakia
blends and never really enjoyed them. Some toasted Black Cavendish that was

About two years ago, I also started enjoying the occassional cigar. Again,
not too sophisticated, I don't think.

I like the Nat Shermans that another subscriber was referring to. The Hunter
(6" x 43). When I want something stonger, I'll sometimes smoke an Avo.

Also, the Don Linos (not sure what the name is), it's about six inches with a
50 or so ring size. I find I like the shorter, thicker size cigars.

Hope I didn't go on too much, feel free to edit at you pleasure. I really
enjoy reading this, so keep it coming.

Here's my favorite quote, not tobacco related I'm afraid.

Having an open mind is nothing. The object of opening the mind, as of opening
the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.
 _____________ G.K. Chesterton

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[Posting edited to remove identifying information. All names here have
been changed. -S. ]

From: Kevin
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #183 -- March 27, 1995


Thank you for another enjoyable issue of Pipes Digest :-)

I'm moving back to pipe smoking as a way to have more pleasure out
of smoking.  I started buying cigarettes back in May or June of 1994,
and found that I had to finish whatever amount of cigarettes I had
before the night fell.  Following this pattern steadily, I found
myself with a nasty cough.

I stopped smoking cigarettes altogether a few weeks ago, and have
moved exclusively to pipes.  Not only have my clothes smelled sweeter
and friendlier, but my cough is also gone completely, I can walk
long distances like I did before smoking cigarettes, and I find that
people young and old smile a little more at a 23 year old kid with
a pipe :-)

        [I admit to taking the occasional cigarette when
         offered, but it's less and less enjoyable every

I had an interesting experience the other day.  I am friends with
a few teenagers around town.  Two of them bought their own pipes
and are starting to smoke them in place of cigarettes.

Yesterday, there were two little visitors at my front door - the
little brother of a friend of mine, and his little buddy, both about
11 years old.  (Nelson and Andy) They've been dying to see my house, so I
brought them in.

We sat in my room and chatted for a while.  Then I broke out my pipe.
Before I knew it, there were two kids and myself lying on a bed,
passing a pipe around.  Nelson, who is a constant talker actually
didn't say a word during the whole smoking experience.  Andy enjoyed
the tingly feeling that the smoking gave his toungue.

We only smoked one bowlful (a local mall calls it "Irish Creme"),
laying around for a while in some kind of contemplative meditation
(which even chatty 11 year olds like Nelson are surprisingly capable
of doing), and then I walked them home.

For some strange reason, while I would never give these boys cigarettes
when I smoked them (and they would ask me - believe me!), I had no
qualms sharing a bowlful with them.

Any thoughts?


[ Kevin, it's kind of a delicate situation, unfortunately, and
involved some risk for both you and Nelson and Andy, especially given
certain other details about you that I've left out.  The boys' parents
or some busybody might not see your letter in a good light.  So I've
taken the liberty of removing some identifying information from your
letter, and changing your name and those of the boys.

Most of us who tried our first pipe that young, did so on our own. I
did.  There are a few exceptions. A friend of mine told me once, in
glowing terms, of one time he had stayed overnight in his uncle's
house. The uncle left some Parodi cigars by his bedside. For a
12-year-old, that was a wonderful act of comradeship from an older
man, an acceptance of him into the world of men.  On that level, I
think it's great! 

Perhaps in later years the boys will see it as a rite of manhood.
It's certainly an experience they won't forget. -S. ]

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From: Jeffery Glenn Hayes <????????????????>
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request


Thanks for so quickly adding me to the mailing list.  On review of your 
information, I am sure I will enjoy being a member of the Pipe Digest group.

I have smoked a pipe steadily for nineteen years now, and I started when 
I was only sixteen.  At that time, my mother noted that I was of legal 
age and hence could make my own decision.  I read the Surgeon General's 
report on smoking, and found that pipe smokers live on average two years 
longer than non-smokers.  I'm sure the readership is familiar with this 

In 1979, while wasting valuable time and money in Gatlinburg, TN, (I went 
to college at Maryville in East Tennessee) I happened upon the 
Gatlinburlier in the Mountain Mall.  The Gatlinburlier redeems the 
Gatlinburg experience.  Since then I have smoked nothing but Gatlinburley 
(Virginia/Kentucky Burlies with a hint of Latakia) and Cades Cove 
Cavendish (a light aromatic cavendish).  On Thursdays, Gatlinburg's 
traditionally slowest day, you can often get 20% to 30% off any pipe, 
just by talking tobacco.

Lately, I have bought a new brand of pipe which smokes delightfully, 
Chacom.  Being a perpetual student (I'm completing my third masters 
degree in six years), I'm constantly looking for quality inexpensive 
pipes.  I paid only about 30$ U.S. for my Chacom Puma, which is a 1/8 
bent smooth pug with vulcanite bit.  I have no complaints at all about 
its smoke.  Sadly, vulcanite bits become rarer and rarer, and I can't 
stand lucite.

Since I live in Atlanta, GA, I've visited Edwards (on your list) east of 
Atlanta.  Edwards is a chatty place, with plenty of stools and bonhomie.  
Also, they sell estate pipes on occasion, which I find most interesting.  
In one such sale, I picked up a Tolkien-ish Kriswild, a Danish line.  I 
smoke it on crisp, fall evenings when my favorite paths all seem too well 

In a past life, I worked as a computer consultant for the DoD; hence, I 
spent some time in D.C.  During one trip, I visited John Hayes' store in 
Alexandria, and can heartfully second its good reviews among your readership.

Finally, I am most concerned by our public's lack of discrimination:  I 
dread that pipe/cigar smokers may be caught in the general backlash 
against cigarette smokers.  I must confess:  I have only slight sympathy 
for anyone who will smoke a commercial cigarette.  The Gatlinburlier has 
a number of pure tobacco cigarette brands, having no additives or 
buffers.  You may also pick up a rolling machine to produce your own from 
your favorite pipe brand (I do so when on a flight in which cigarette 
smoking is allowed, put not pipe or cigar smoking.  After all, 
"cigarette" refers more to form than content, at least to the airlines.  
So I roll my own and puff away.)

So, well-met, fellow smokers!  My bowl is filled, my companion ready, my 
Zippo alight.  Hail, and well-met!

Jeff Hayes

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From: ????????????????
Subject: thanks for pd

I am really enjoying my sub to pd!!
Thought I'd drop a line to introduce myself.
I am Jeff Miller (????????????????) and I've been smoking about 4 months.  I
have a Stanwell bent which is wonderful, and a meerschaum which I love as
well.  I am still experimenting with flavors.  So far I have found I like
Dunhill's Early Morning and a couple of local mixtures.

I have a couple of questions to throw out...

1) Is there a point when your mouth adapts and becomes less wet? or is there
anything you can do short of having a spitoon?

2) Someone gave me a tin of MacBaren Roll cake: Any suggestions, tips on
handling ready rubbed/rolled tobacco?

Thanks again for the digest, I always find useful info in every issue.

Jeff Miller

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From: CRAIG HAAS 202-564-8682 <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Whatever became of?

          There was a tobacconist's in the San Francisco Bay Area that 
          moved several years ago and I wondered if anyone knew what 
          happened to it.  It was a Tinder Box sort of place, thought that 
          might not have been the name, and it was located in the Stone 
          Ridge mall in Pleasanton.  I was back there for a visit last year 
          and noticed it was gone.  The staff there were all very friendly 
          and I was sorry not to find it.
          Any ideas on where it is now?  Did the mall go smoke-free and 
          kick it out?  I would offer a reward for information, but we're 
          all such happy and contented people as it is that no reward is 
          needed!  (Yea, right....)
          Thanks for any help,

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From: ????????????????? (Chris Holst)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #183 -- March 27, 1995

Dear Steve,

I've just finished reading my third PD, and decided that it was high time 
that I actually begin to contribute to the discussion.  Be it fortunate or 
unfortunate, my range of knowledge necessitates that I ask many more 
questions than I answer.  I'm an undergrad at Columbia in NYC, majoring in 
the History and Philosophy of Science, with no clue what direction will take 
after I graduate next year.  I picked up my first pipe last summer while I 
was living in Estonia on a fellowship from Columbia.  It is a beautifully 
grained half-bent briar... a bit on the short side, maybe 4-5 inches long. I 
guess the bowl could be described as apple-shaped , in that it is not unlike 
the shape of a small round apple with the top cut off.  The brand name 
carved into the side is Gold Fire (not handmade Estonian obviously).  Has 
anyone ever heard of these people before?  It smokes cool and has led to no 
complaints from me yet.  The tobak that I picked up when I bought the pipe 
was nothing exceptional, Swedish Borkum Riff Bourbon,  but I enjoyed it. My 
second (of two) pipe I picked up while living in St. Petersburg, Russia this 
past fall. It is a beautiful full bent creature carved out of maple, though 
with a very dark finish that lets the grain show through like the grain is 
visible in good green obsidian. The image that comes immediately to mind is 
the pipe that Basil Rathbone smoked as Holmes, with a huge, deep bowl that 
narrows slightly from top to base and curves elegantly back to meet the 
stem.  The stem is interesting as well, in that I was told by the shop 
attendant (bought it in a russian handicrafts shop) that it was carved of 
ebony. I don't know if that is true, but it is a rather solid feeling chunk 
of whatever it is, with some masterful lathework embellishments just before 
it meets the shank that remind me of the work done on the bases of old ebony 
and ivory chessmen.  

Now that the tale of what I'm smoking out of is told, I have questions and 
comments about what I'm smoking in them.  Going to school in NYC (don't live 
here permanently) is great for options, and I've been excercizing them.  I 
started out by picking up some of De La Concha's Marbella, an aromatic that 
doesn't really do much for me...  it has a very sour characteristic when 
smoked unmixed with anything else.  I then walked down to Nat Sherman's and 
paid ungodly money for a couple ounces of one of their house blends that was 
intrigingly black.  This Manahttan Twilight is a very rich but mild tobak 
that blends wonderfully with Marbella and makes a grand smoke. No questions 
about either of these aromatics.  The questions began to pop up when I 
started taking the advice of those on the net, and went out and picked up 
some english blends.  JR's store on 45th St is the best place for prices of 
tinned tobacco I've found in NYC, so I picked up for myself a tin of Bengal 
Slices and a tin of Dunhill's Elizabethan (which was mentioned on the net as 
being very similar to Escudo, is it really?) On the rack, there were some 
tins of BS with a sticker reading "AROMATIC" put on them, and some without.  
Seeing as this was supposed to be Chris's Non-aromatic Adventure, I eschewed 
these and picked up a tin that did not have this sticker on... was there any 
difference, or is it just a labelling mistake?  The pronouncedly smoky 
quality of BS intrigued me as I cracked open the tin and loaded up my briar 
with a slice and a half, carefully rubbed out.  An unusual but enjoyable 
experience.  The Dunhill Elizabethan utterly failed to impress me in any 
way. It smokes hotter than anything I've tried before (yes, a limited range, 
but still the hottest I've yet experienced).  The flavor is almost acrid and 
it bites my tongue like a pit bull. So, as my preferences are beginning to 
for, could anyone point me in the direction of something new and different?  
The name appeal that MacBaren's Plum cake is almost enough to make me want 
to pick up a tin of it.  Could people comment.  Also comments are requested 
comapring the qualities of the different Dunhill blends.  Is the character 
of Elizabethan typical? Are they all as fine a ribbon cut as this is?  Is 
Elizabethan particularly strong? What are Early morning and Nightcap like?  
How about the raved-about 965?  If I dislike one Dunhill, will I dislike 
them all?

Damn, I'm long winded.  This must stop here and now.  

Steve, feel free to edit away as much or as little as you desire.  btw, 
thanks a lot for providing such a grand service to all of us clueless 
newbies out there in the world.


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From: ???????????????? (Ed Berggren)
Subject: Pipes Digest

Hello, Steve,
  Just finished reading PD #183 and enjoyed it immensely.  Since
discovering the Digest a little over a week ago, I've been printing out
back issues (just to get caught up) and reading them on the train ride
home. It certainly helps the commute to pass by more quickly.

  In #183 Richard Byer (????????????????) commented on my earlier remark
(almost in passing) about Poor Richard's Pipe Shoppe in San Bernardino, CA.
He asked that it be added to the resource guide, but I don't think I gave
you the particulars, so in case I didn't, here they are:
  Poor Richard's Pipe Shoppe
  364 W. Highland Ave.
  San Bernardino, CA  92405
  (909) 883-7031
It's a friendly, relaxed shop with a good selection of pipes (including a
wall of estate pipes at, what I thought, are pretty good prices--but
admittedly, I don't know much about the pricing of estate pipes), tobaccos,
cigars, and accessories. If you're in the mood, there's a table and a few
chairs and you can sit, have a cup of coffee, smoke, and chew the fat with
anyone who happens to be there.  BTW, in Stephen Johnson's (Briar Man)
report on the '94 West Coast Pipe and Cigar Expo in PD #173, Poor Richard's
was listed as having taken awards for best briar pipe and best antique

  Jim Thomas (????????????????????????) asked about the Porsche pipe.  "The
Ultimate Pipe Book" by Richard Hacker says, "Ferdinand Alexander Porsche,
the man who designed the 904 and the 911, is also a pipe smoker, so it
should come as no surprise that he would eventually design a sleek pipe
made of briar with an aluminum-shrouded bowl which incorporates an external
cooling technology inspired by the cylinder ribs of an airplane engine."
"The Illustrated History of the Pipe" by Alexis Liebaert and Alain Maya
adds, "The aluminium flanges were supposed to cool the bowls and give a
fresher smoke.  It created a lot of talk, but few were sold; production has
now ceased."

  I have a question for the Digest readers. I've seen smokers' candles
advertised in Thompson's Cigar Co. catalog and other places with the claim
that they eliminate tobacco odors and not just mask them. Has anyone tried
these?  Do they work?  Any info would be appreciated.  You can e-mail me at

  I certainly hope, Steve, you can find a new home for the Digest web page
if it comes to that.  And I'm sure we all hope Steve Beaty finds a new job.

  Finally, here's one of my favorite quotes from a fellow smoker:
  "[Tobacco] is the passion of honest men, and the man who lives without
tobacco is not worthy of living"

  Words to live by...

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From: ???????????????? (Ed Berggren)
Subject: Captain Pete

Hello, Steve,
  Here's another reply to a question asked in PD #183 from Mark Lathem
(??????????????????) regarding a Peterson's pipe called "Captain Pete" from
a character in Sherlock Holmes.  This is no doubt referring to Captain
Peter Carey also known as Black Peter from the story, "The Adventure of
Black Peter."
  No doubt, many others on the list will send you this same information
(I've noticed a lot of pipe smokers tend to like Sherlock Holmes, in spite
of his disgusting smoking habits--I mean, really, keeping his tobacco in
the toe of a Persian slipper?  Saving his dottles to smoke later?  Smoking
three pipes in 45 minutes?  Shocking!).

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From: "Jeffrey C. Hicks" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Glad to be aboard


Just thought I would drop a line to say how much I appreciated my
first issue.  I am a one cigar a week broke first year law student who
enjoys the rare opportunity to sit down and enjoy a good smoke.  I am
attending law school in Detroit, MI which consequently happens to be a
mere five minute drive from Le Casa del Habanos (formerly the Havana
House) in Windsor, Ontario.  Each Thursday following class a fellow
classmate and myself enjoy our once a week short trek across the
border to unwind and relax for an hour or so while smoking a fine
cigar.  I must admit that I have not found anything that generates
good conversation quite like a cigar does.  I never would have guessed
that I would meet so many interesting people from all over the world
simply by enjoying a great cigar in the store's lounge.  For now my
budget restrained one a week limit will remain, however, after law
school is over I hope to be able to enjoy my hobby much more.

Regards,                             ~
Jeff Hicks                           ~
 _________________  ~

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Various Stuff

1. Steve, I didn't get issue #182, I think.  I got 181, and then today 183
2. I did an incredible dumb when transferring a letter to Word Perfect and
lost the address of Gregory Pease, who had written to me.  Can you
broadcast a plea to him to write again?
3. Being a pipe smoker, a reader, a somewhat health-conscious eater, and a
coffee drinker, I love going to our local Wendy's, where I can sit
undisturbed for as long as I want, eat the salad bar, get free coffee
refills, and smoke my pipe.  A week ago, somebody went into Wendy's and
left with all the little glass ashtrays.  I don't like to be paranoid, but
they don't seem to be very valuable or collectible.  Do you suppose this
could be a new and devious ploy by the rabid anti-smokers?
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

[1-3 answered by email. Re 4, it's possible. Ask the manager if you
can have an ashtray; this will both indicate demand and that
something's wrong. -S. ]

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From: Mark Letteri <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Advertising apology

	Right after I joined the _Pipes Digest_ list (a little over a month 
ago?), I got a piece of advertising for a cigar humidor.  I can't recall the 
origin of the ad.
	In the recent issue of the _Digest_, you say that one Sam Albano 
apologized (individually?) for sending some list members unsolicited 
	I don't know whether Albano was the person who sent me the 
humidor ad.  But if he was, I didn't receive an apology.
	No big deal--just thought I'd touch base regarding this matter.  

		-- Mark Letteri

[ Mark, I checked the list of names that Mr. Alfano said he'd sent
apologies to, and you weren't on it. He told me he'd had to
reconstruct it from the copy of the Digest he'd originally used to
generate the spam list. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: #3(4) Pipes Digest #183 -...

Thank you for the news.  I live in Southern California and was wondering if
any list exist that would advise pipe smokers, cigar or tobaco epicurans
where they can have a smoke during or after dinning.  With all these new
government regulation in this state and time against them and the businesses
it seems to be a task for us. Thank you D1Leroyaol.com

[ The Cigar Aficionado "Guide to Cigar Friendly Restaurants" should
help. I passed along the 800 number (which I don't have here) by
separate mail. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Escudo "Navy"

Hi Steve:

You got a post asking about the word "Navy" in Escudo's nomenclature. Here's
an answer.

Centuries ago when sailors sailed the Caribbean Spice triangle they collected
the tobaccos from different ports. They would then take the tobbacos and
place them in a sheet of sail canvas. The canvas would then be twisted into a
roll  and then wrapped with cord (like one giant cigar.) They would let the
tobbaco mature in this fashion. After unrolling the canvas the tobacco would
be cut into sticks. You would then "slice" off enough tobacco (just like
slicing pepperoni) for your bowl.

Steve Banks

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From: ???????????????? (Billy F. Greer)
Subject: Esoterica Tobacciana

You can get the above at:
The Piedmont Tobacconist
17 Glen Avenue
Oakland, CA  94611
(510) 652-pipe

I have tried most of the Esoterica products and they are truly excellent.
Happy smoking.
Billy F. Greer        |  Vegatarians eat vegatables watch out for 
????????????????      |  those damned humanitarians

[ Thanks, Billy! I called 'em today. And I will watch out. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????? (Gary Aminoff)
Subject: Los Angeles Cigar Night

A few of we cigar smokers in Los Angeles would like to try to get a group
together for perhaps a once a month night out.  We have tentatively
selected April 19th as the first night to get together for dinner and
cigars at a yet to be determined restaurant.

I would like to get an indication of how many LA cigar smokers would
like to attend such an event before we firm up the place and date.
please respond by e-mail to ???????????????????  DO NOT RESPOND

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Please answer the following questions:

1)	I would like to attend a periodic evening of good food,
interesting conversation, good wine/scotch and cigar smoking at a Los
Angeles restaurant.
[Y or N}

2)	April 19th is a good night for the first event, and I will be
able to attend.
[Y or N]

3)	I prefer the event to be located:

	a)	West side
	b)	Downtown
	c)	Valley
{a, b or c]

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Please send e-mail to indicate your interest, and include any comments
you might have.


Gary Aminoff
Gary A. Aminoff / Carlton Properties, Inc.
11755 Wilshire Blvd., Suite 1140
Los Angeles, CA 90025 USA //(310) 268-2710 / FAX: (310) 268-1997
Internet: ??????????????????  // Compuserve: 76407,522

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From: ???????????????????? (David Quisenberry)
Subject: New to the Digest

Thanks for the rapid response and copy of the digest.  I am 33 years old 
and have been smoking for about 13 years.  I was really introduced to 
pipes/cigars when I spent 2 years in Detroit from '85 to '87.  I was a 
founding member of the Southeastern Michigan Pipesmokers Club.  I wonder 
if it is still in existance (I moved back to Texas in '87).  My favorite 
tobacco was one from Julus Vesz in Toronto called Cavendish.  It was 
anything but cavendish, my friends called it A-1 because it smelled like 
the steak sauce when you opened the tin.  I think McConnel in England 
made it and it was discontinued before I left.  Now I smoke McClellend 
2000  and 22 and a few scotish mixtures.  I have mainly smoked cigars in 
the last couple of years as the price of pipes has gone up and IMHO the 
quality has gone down.  I have some Upshall P's from '85 which look 
almost as good as some X's I see today.  I prefer Ashton maduros but 
they have been non-existant at my local pipeshop (Edward's in Dallas 
TX).  So I have experimented around and mostly smoke AF and Cuesta Reys. 
I am looking forward to reading/ contributing to the digest.

David Quisenberry

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Re: #1(4) Pipes Digest #183 -...

I must note an apology to Mr. Alfano. A judgement made (#182) without all
related information can often be a bad judgement. Thanks.

[ From Mark Letteri's letter above, we may _still_ not have all the
information... -S. ]

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From: Franco Silvestro <????????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest #182

Thank you for welcome (I have now installed windows mail and I hope this 
mail arrive exactly.)
I'm a recent greedy pipe smoker. For 20 years I smoked cigarettes, but two 
years ago I had the good fortune to meet with Alberto Bonfiglioli, an 
excellent italian pipe maker, I found his laboratory near Bologna 
University, where I work. Bonfiglioli was  my master in pipe smoking 
initiation. I began with a used little Charatan and a Savinelli "punto oro", 
as tobacco I tried a personal Bonfiglioli blend latakia based. Now I have 65 
tasty pipes (many Bonfiglioli ,Ser Jacopo, Savinelli and Ceppo, Mastro de 
Paja, Armorelli, BBB... during this writing i'am smoking an excellent 
Bonfiglioli "Downtown - For Collectors"), as tobacco I mainly smoke "Three 
I showed the Pipe Digest and the Resource Guide to Bonfiglioli. He 
enthusiastly asked me if was possible to include his address in Resource 
Guide. He also gave me  a letter that I report exactly 
                              BO March 19  1995

I'm Bonfiglioli Alberto and my new address is :  VIA BERTIERA 8/a    40126 
                           phone    is :    +39 - 51 - 231771

I sell pipes since 1967 and I make its since 1974. I produce all kind of 
shapes and finissage ( rustic, sandblast, carved, smooth and freeform).
My logo is a white triangle and it is registred in USA and Italy too.
All year I come in USA for convention and I will be at next convention 
P.C.I. in St. Louis (26-27-28 MAY). Long time age I was in Alexandria (VA) 
with a laboratory for to make and fixing pipes.
If you like some pipes contact me. Also I sell Ser Jacopo and Radice pipes.
     Sincerely    Alberto Bonfiglioli
Sorry for my raw english.... This is my first long mail not in 
A question: I'd like to send images for pipe gallery, how can I do it ???
More thanks  da Franco Silvestro

[ Good heavens! I have Alberto's picture from the NY Pipe Club show in
1994, and have been meaning to send it to him for over a year! Will do
so this weekend. Thanks for the reminder! Regarding the images, let's
wait a little bit until we know where the Web site will be. -S. ]

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                       Today's Snappy Comeback:

(To a feminist:) "You've got the wrong guy. I'm neither your father
nor all men." 
                                - From "101 Ways to Answer the
                                  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
                                  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #184 -- April 1, 1995
  2. Subject: Rothman Exposes Waxman!
  3. Subject: Misc. questions
  4. Subject: Re:
  5. Subject: My Introductory Posting to the Newsletter
  6. Subject: Pipes Digest
  7. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #183 -- March 27, 1995
  8. Subject: Smoker success
  9. Subject: Cigar Digest Intro letter
  10. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #183 -- March 27, 1995
  11. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request
  12. Subject: thanks for pd
  13. Subject: Whatever became of?
  14. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #183 -- March 27, 1995
  15. Subject: Pipes Digest
  16. Subject: Captain Pete
  17. Subject: Glad to be aboard
  18. Subject: Various Stuff
  19. Subject: Advertising apology
  20. Subject: Re: #3(4) Pipes Digest #183 -...
  21. Subject: Escudo "Navy"
  22. Subject: Esoterica Tobacciana
  23. Subject: Los Angeles Cigar Night
  24. Subject: New to the Digest
  25. Subject: Re: #1(4) Pipes Digest #183 -...
  26. Subject: Pipes Digest #182
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