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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest #186 -- April 15, 1995

                 Pipes Digest #186 -- April 15, 1995
             Copyright (C) 1995 by Stephen P. Masticola.
           All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

                     Circulation this issue: 1063

Welcome to new members:

         Philip Henry Burrus IV         (????????????????????????)
         Stig Bordsenius                (?????????????????)
         Douglas Cope                   (??????????????????)
         ???                            (????????????????)
         ???                            (????????????????)
         Steve Vogtman                  (??????????????????????????)
         Robert Buchanan                (??????????????????)
         Shig Kuwada                    (????????????????????)
         LeRoy Korte                    (??????????????????)
         Leonard Glantz                 (??????????????????)
         Jerry Quick                    (??????????????????)

Administrative stuff: First of all, the Web site is back! Steve Beaty
(?????????????????????????) and Vince Callaway (?????????????????)
have revived the Web page at:

                     http://www.tacoma.net/~pipes

See Steve's letter later this issue. And thanks to both Vince and
Steve, and all the others who offered to provide Web sites!

Also, Steve Johnson (????????????????) has sent me a copy of a report
by Rep. Thomas Bliley to Congress on the issue of environmental
tobacco smoke. (He's on our side, folks!) 60 pages long, and much
technical detail and political intrigue.  I've asked Steve Beaty and
Richard Geller to put it up at the Web and FTP sites.  I'd also be
glad to send a copy to anyone who requests it. Briarman says you're
free to put it up at your own site, as long as you tell him you've
done so. Many thanks to Steve for taking up the task of scanning it
all in!

And, as some members noticed, Your Moderator sent out issue #185 with
the title, "Pipes Digest #187". When I have a spare hour, I should
really fix the scripts to detect this sort of thing. It's happened too
often, usually when I've been rushing to get an issue out. Sorry!

Personal note: After having subscribed for 20 years, I've written to
Scientific American and asked that my subscription be cancelled. The
May "worldwide tobacco epidemic" issue is the reason; as always, I do
not voluntarily support people who persecute me. Sigh. The quality of
the material has been declining in recent years anyway, and I just
haven't had the time to read it much lately.  If you feel the same
way, you might want to consider whether you need to support them
anymore. Thanks to Kam Kashani (????????????) for the heads-up on this
one, a few issues back. And, as always...

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             Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
                        Call -- Write -- Vote
                        Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: #1(4) Your Pipes Digest s...

steve,
thank you so much for adding me to PD so quickly.  i've only been online a
few days and your newletter is my first.  what a sweet surprise.... i never
dreamed i could get such wonderful and voluminous info on fine smoking in one
place!
a little about myself:  i 've been smoking fine pipes and cigars since my
college days...11 years hence i fear.  i have a stable of 14 woods (
including 6 dunhills and 3 stanwells).  i also keep a humidor of Dunhills and
 Montes (#2s,  my sister lives in Toronto) at the ready for when my briars
need a rest.  
one other thing... i'm a lady...surprise!  i hope this is not a 'boys only'
 thing.  do you have other female subcribers?  if so i'd hope to be able to
converse with them here or thru e-mail.  if not then i'll have a go with the
gentlemen if that's ok.  must run...bowl of 965 about to extinguish.  
thanks again.
                                              JBH (???????????)
   
[Definitely not a "boys only" thing; we have a few female subscribers,
and wish there were more. Enjoy your 965, and welcome! -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Escudo

Steve, I have been reading a lot about Escudo on the digest. Exactly what kind
of tobacco is is and where can it be purchased in the Washington, DC area? I
enjoy every issue of the Digest and congratulations on doing a great job.
?????????????????

[ I'd call it an English roll cut, though it's not heavy on latakia as
I think most English is.  J.R. Cigar has it by mail-order, or John
B. Hayes (Fair Oaks Mall, Fairfax, VA; 703-385-3033) probably should
too. -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????? (John Paine)
Subject: administrative, back issues;  tobacco swap

   Steve:

  What a fine surprise to have #187 in my mail this morning!  I seem now to
need #172, 184, 185, 186.  I have spent a pleasurable part of my weekend
catching up on the conversation.

     I would like to find some Limited Reserve AVATAR tobacco.  This was
released a few weeks ago and immediately snapped up.  I will trade, even
up, any combination of the following Limited Reserves:  Boston 1776;
Nocturne;  Tudor;  Gorgorath;  Magnificat;  Sophisticate.

     I may be reached by email, or by phone, 615-385-6412, ext.6244 (with
voice mail).

-John Paine

[ See above re issue mix-up. -S. ]


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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: #1(4) Pipes Digest #187 -- April 9 1995

Greetings Steve.

I was astonished to get such a quick response to my request to join and am
pleased with the first offerings (are you using a robot?). A little about
myself, started smoking the pipes and cigars at 18 when I was a philosophy
student in college and thought it looked cool. Changed majors (several times)
and eventually graduated. Just left active military service (down-sized
officer) and am now a 36 yr old Systems Functional Analyst working for
Lockheed Martin. Have about 45 pipes of all sort (haven't managed to get a
Dunhill yet). Prefer latakia based english blends but will try aromatics on a
whim. Also enjoy a good cigar. Since one of my hobbies is woodwork, have also
tried my hand at pipe carving and have done a couple of freehand styles.
Great info online, keep up the good work. Happy puffing.

Verlyn

[ No robot here; just good scripts and a desire to keep the mail queue
clear. Welcome! -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: #4(4) Pipes Digest #187 -...

   Is there anybody in the tampa bay area that will Help a 15yr old pipe
smoker out?  ??????????????????   Thanks!!!!   :?

[ Please respond directly to The Violist if you can. -S. ]


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From: ????????????????? (Boaz Rahat)
Subject: Are big-name pipes really better?

Hi fellow smokers,

I'd like to ask some of those with some knowledge or an opinion about
the 'better' brands of pipes. Could you describe the difference in the
smoking experience between pipes by Peterson or Savinelli etc. and
other, lesser-known brands of briar pipe? What makes those pipes
different from a standard, lesser-known-brand of briar pipe?

I'm afraid I don't own a new brand-name pipe to try an experiment of
my own. I have one old small-bowled silver-band K&P (is that
Peterson's), and smoking in it isn't any different than other pipes I
have. In fact, my best pipe is an old cracked and repaired
meerschaum. What am I missing?

I hope to gain an insight on the 'quality' facet of pipe smoking.

Thanks,

Boaz

[ Nothing! I have a $1 pipe that smokes great and an $80 custom-carved
deal that smokes lousy. The higher-priced pipes do tend to have fewer
fills, sand pits, and other defects, but IMHO these do not affect
smoking quality. -S. ]


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From: ????????????????? (Andy Donovan-Shead)
Subject: Questionable Postings to the Digest.

Steve,

I have followed the "Kevin" imbrogglio. His E-mail did not contain anything
explicit, but it did provoke the definite feeling of unease voiced by
Charles Myers.

Members of the mailgroup should not post anything that they would not want
shouted from the rooftops. If I were you, Steve, I should reject any E-mail
that is of a questionable nature, for your own protection as well as that of
the mailgroup.

And to other members: Do not admit doing anything illegal, however petty,
for the Internet is a most insecure medium of communication, more so than
the telephone system. We live in a society that is quick to misconstrue
illconsidered actions. Keep your distance from minors, they are not
responsible for themselves until they reach the age of consent. Be safe than
sorry.

Andrew
?????????????????

[ I concur with everything you've said. -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: "Kevin's"letter

Steve and fellow readers:

I must comment about a submission in the 28 March, 1995 digest by "Kevin" rega
rding his adventure of  sharing his pipe with two 11 year old boys while the
three were lying on his bed.  I find it difficult to believe that "Kevin"
thought that lying on his bed with two 11 year old boys and sharing his pipe
with them was a good idea.  I feel that "Kevin's" actions were out of the
bounds of common decency and legality.

I truly hope that "Kevin" or others so inclined as "Kevin" never again take
children into their care until they can do so responsibly.  If one of those
two boys were my son, "Kevin" would be in serious trouble.

Steve, in your response you say that "some busybody may not see your letter
in a good light."  Well, I am one such busybody who sees this letter in a
terribly bad light.

Steve.

[ Email is a VERY tricky medium, and it's easy to both give and get
the wrong impression. I'm sure, however, that your unease and that of
several other members (including me) has been made clear. See my
letter last issue. -S. ]


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From: "E. John Graham" <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Missing Pipes Digest 

Dear Steve,
Apparently, like many others, I did not receive Pipes Digest #182.  I would
greatly appreciate your help in sending it along.  It also looks like I did
not receive #185 or #186.  Thank you for your help.

Thanks also for your devoted work on behalf of pipe and cigar smokers.  
Through the Digest I have become aware of the Ohio Pipe Collectors and a
very fine pipe and tobacco store in my area.  Moreover, I have significantly
increased my pipe tobacco consumption, and correspondingly decreased my 
cigarette consumption.  This is greatly appreciated in my household and
also by my physician who considers pipes less harmful than cigarettes.  Keep
up your fine work.

John Graham
Yellow Springs, Ohio

[ Great! See above re the phantom issues. And thanks! -S. ]


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From: ????????????????
Subject: Wanted: A place to sack out

Hi Steve,

Enclosed is info on:  My pipe bio, a trip around the U.S.A., in a search of
my small, quality pipe collection, a smoking problem/question or two--

My Pipe Bio:
----------------
I started smoking a pipe about 3 months ago, after a very good friend of
mine, Vern, and I got to talking about it at lunch one day.  He had just
turned 40, and said, "You know, I've always wanted to smoke a pipe, and I
think that now that I'm 40, I'm old enough."  I was pleasently surprised to
hear him say that, because I had always had a pipe dream <grin> of someday
taking this pastime up.  I always felt, though, that I was "too young" to
smoke a pipe.  In my mind, society didn't accept the idea of younger people
smoking pipes.  You've got to pay your dues before you're old enough to
warrant that privilege.  Vern's step was enough to give me that final nudge.

I'm 33, and at least for the time being, I'm still a closet pipe smoker.
 I've smoked cigars in the past, but it wasn't really what I yearned for
(although I still enjoy a cigar if I have no pipe available), and I pretty
much only smoke my pipe when I'm alone, or around very close friends.  I
enjoy it immensely, and because of that, I'm thinking that I'll probably be
coming out of the closet sooner than I think.  This is for the plain fact
that I'd like to feel more comfortable carrying my pipe around and smoking it
when I feel the call, regardless of what the world may expect.

As for my motivation to pick up the pastime, my Dad smoked a pipe, briefly,
when I was young (too young to remember, actually), and also I had always
liked the aroma of pipe smoke.  More significant to me, though, was the fact
that most, if not all, of my experiences with pipe smoking men were that they
were very relaxed, methodical, mellow, peaceful, content people.  I have an
image in my mind of a  man in his 50's, smoking his pipe while in his
workshop fiddling with some woodworking project.  He never would never get
too excited about anything, and really seemed to be working with wood as an
excuse to be out enjoying the pipe.  I enjoyed the sweet smelling, character-f
illed smoke-- a real contrast to the cigarette stink that, as a kid, I had
always associated "smoke" with, until that point.  I don't even know if I
ever actually saw the man that I described, but I do have a strong memories
of him.  Figure that one out.

Vern paved the way to my pipe smoking and I followed a week or so later.  We
started at our pipe shop in the local mall:

The Briar Shop
313 Columbia Center
Kennewick, WA  99336

They have a "starter kit" that was kind of neat.  For about $35, you got a
nice no-name (?) briar pipe, of good quality with a straight stem, a tobacco
pouch, a pipe nail, some cleaners, smoker's matches and a little instruction
pamplet for first time smokers.  Add to that the cost of our first ounce of
tobacco (and all applicable @(#)*% state sales taxes), and it came to about
$40 to have my first real experience with pipe smoking.  It was just as I had
daydreamed of, in years past.  I LIKE it!

I was back to the shop within a month or so and got a short little sandblast
1/2 bent (and I mean _short_), that has a stamp on the stem that says,
"Sport".  I like it because it's small enough to carry around if I really
want to, and I also wanted to have a bent.  I've found, though, that it
smokes a little warmer (I think because there isn't much briar to it) than my
bigger pipe.

Pipe's I'm Looking For:
-----------------------------
Now I'm thinking that I would like to build a very small (VERY) collection of
good quality pipes.  I would like a meerchum (I always wonder if I'm spelling
that right), because I've read here that it's a cool smoke, which I'm
pursuing.  I'd also like to have the obligatory Sherlock Holmes (and the word
"obligatory", I think, is obligatory), and would like to have one pipe that I
just really, really like because it smokes so good.  Right now, my "starter
pipe" holds that spot, but then again, I haven't had much to compare it to,
so I hold high hopes that there are better smokes out there.

Pipe Smoking Questions:
-------------------------------
In attempting to keep my pipe lit, I started by tamping the tobacco
periodically, and after a few days of that I began to think that it was
knocking ash down to where I would be drawing it through the stem.  So, I
stopped doing that.  Somehow, I didn't connect the fact that I had to relight
so often with the fact that I stopped tamping.  I recently started tamping
again and found that it stays lit MUCH longer, if not all the way to the
bottom.  Is that the experience of any of you seasoned pipe smokers?

Question 2:  I'm wondering if the only way to keep the stem/bowl dry is to
keep a pipe cleaner handy and swab it once or twice.  Is there another way,
short of doing a lot of spitting in the process?  This method doesn't appeal
to me.  Also, I eventually get a zap of nasty, bitter juice, and it ruins the
whole smoking experience for me (dippers and chewers may disagree with my
description as "nasty, bitter", but I tried chewing once or twice and I find
it no different).  What can I do to keep things drier?  I've seen a little
screen that you can buy to put in the bottom of the bowl.  Are there any
opinions on that?  Would it keep the tobacco off the bottom of the bowl and
thus above the moisture that settles in the bottom from soaking the tobacco?
 Where is the moisture coming from?  Is it from the tobacco or me?

My Big Trip Across the U.S.A.:
---------------------------------------
Now, on to what is biggest in my life the last few weeks:  In pursuit of my
pipe collection (partially), I am going on the road, very, very soon :).  Due
to government cutbacks, the company where I worked had a voluntary reduction
of force.  They offered incentives to get people to volunteer to be laid off.
 I volunteered, because I wasn't all that happy with my job anymore, anyway.
 Seemed like a good day to move on.  Consequently, I'm an unemployed systems
analyst for those who might have work for me--even for times as short as a
day or so (read below), or even an hour-- I'm interested.  I have a great
deal of experience with IBM-PC computers and anything related, particularly
in troubleshooting problems.  I've also done programming in many languages
from high level down to assembly language.  I've taught lots of classes
related to programming, DOS, Windows and such... Need a class taught?  I've
got a lot of experience writing, particularly documentation, but I do other
writing, too.  My real love, though, seems to be in working with people.  I
am thinking of pursuing a career in counseling and have done a fair amount of
adventure based counseling (ropes courses) and would be interested in
anything along those lines, even more than computer work.  It's just that I
have a lot of computer experience, and it pays the bills for me, now-- well,
it isn't paying them RIGHT now... :)

So-- I digressed on my "resume".  Back to the pipe tour:  I'm planning to
travel the U.S., and hoping to line up some stops along the way.  I already
have in mind to stop in the pipe museum in Michigan (gotta dig through the
old digests to find just where that is!-- the museum, not Michigan), but
would like to have some more ports of call along the way.  I plan to start
from here (Washington state) and travel down through Arizona, then across the
south through Louisiana, Tennessee, Kentucky (seeing where tobacco comes from
would be real cool, too...If I knew where to go to see that!) then up to the
northeast and across the northern states-- but I'm carving nothing in stone.
 This is a trip to "see the country".  I want to see what other people in
this country live like, and hear in their own words what life is like for
them in their part of the country.

I don't want to feel that I "have to" be anywhere on a given day.  I would
like to meet however many of the 1,000+ readers might be along my path, and
share a smoke with one or more of them as often as possible.  If there are
any who might offer a barn floor for my sleeping bag, a shower to make me
fresh as a daisy again, a bowl of mush or burger to eat, or even a place to
park my gypsy wagon for the night, I would most graciously consider any offers
, including those that include some bartering of the skills I might offer
your situation.  If I take anyone up on the offers, I will certainly offer my
services to you again (including manual labor :) when I see you.  Hopefully
as I work my way across, I'll have references for you from other pipers :)
 Until then, I can provide some email references for you from other folks!

Each time I read the digest, I think the same thing, and this is a good
opportunity to pass it on.  I am always impressed at how open the letters
have been from people.  Reading the digest is almost like reading a letter
from home.  It's fun for me to read about all the things that people have to
say about their pipes.  I especially like reading about specific stories that
involve pipes.  Like the one where the fellow got the wonderful tour at the
pipe museum in Michigan and was taught by a real master how to pack his pipe,
or the man in Finland (my grandparents were from there!) who was out on that
incredible fishing trip and was stranded without tobacco and had to resort to
drug-store tobacco!  Or (horror of horrors, to paraphrase Steve), the one of
the man who lost his bulldog (wasn't it?) on the highway, left only to
imagine what unthinkable violation the truck behind him did to his cherished
pipe.

I hope to see many of you along my way, and hope to help you generate new
stories to post here!  I'm going to do my best to come up with a "portable"
way be on email and to keep you posted on my pipe travels, but may have to
rely on pipe digest subscribers to pass on regular status reports!  Please
write me if you're anywhere in the U.S. and would like to meet, even if it's
just to say "hi" and maybe share a smoke.

Sincerely,
Your Traveling, Smoking Comrade
J.C. "Charlie" Jewell
Internet:  ????????????????

[ Good luck on your trip, Charlie! What a great idea! -S. ]


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From: ???????????????? (Don Shuwarger, M.D., F.A.C.O.G.)
Subject: Who's in Central Virginny

Hi Steve,

I've recently moved to central Virginia.  Base of the Blue Ridge Mountains.
Love it!

Can't seem to find other cigar/pipe smokers in my community and thought
maybe, just maybe, there is someone out there.
If any of your readers live in the Roanoke/Botetourt/Bedford/Campbell
county areas I'd love to meet them and join any smokers clubs.

Thanks!

===========================================================================
Don Shuwarger, M.D., F.A.C.O.G.
A Rural America Ob/Gyn Physician           "May the FORCEPS be with you"
E-mail: ????????????????
===========================================================================

[ Don, you're in a HOTBED of activity in VA! There's CAPS to the north
and CORPS to the south. See the Resource Guide for the contact
addresses. -S. ]


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From: ???????????????? (Elliott C. Evans)
Subject: Re: fine cigarettes

Mr. Logan writes:
>
>But, pray tell, what are "fine cigarettes"?

Cigarettes are what you buy from behind the counter at the
convenience store, and fine cigarettes are what you buy from
behind the counter at the tobacconist.

I've had a lot of luck with Nat Sherman's cigarettes of all
kinds, but there are many types out there. Tell your tobacconist
what you like in a cigar or pipe tobacco, and ask for a
recommendation. Be prepared to spend between three and six
dollars for a pack of smokes, though.

Some tobacconists (notably Poor Richard's here in Pittsburgh)
have a "cigarette of the day" so you can sample different kinds
without buying a whole box. I've also had them tell me to return
the box if it turns out I don't like it. I guess that's how they
pick the cigarette of the day.

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| Elliott C. "Eeyore" Evans            | 
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From: ???????????????? (Nanosh J. Lucas)
Subject: Deep cleaning used pipes

I saw your article in the Pipe Digest and I couldn't help dropping you a
line.  My name is Nanosh Lucas, and I know enough about cleaning pipes to
maybe give you a hand.  The first thing people will look for is bite-marks
& tiny (or large) fills on the bowls - then they'll look for burn-ins.
Also if there's a lot of crusty pipe-stuff on the top of the bowl.  If they
have tobacco gunk inside they will definitely get you a lower price.

The first thing I do is ream out the bowl.  If you have some pipe cleaners
(preferably use the ones with the metal shaft and brush at the end, they
are much stronger - they are reminiscent of toilet bowl cleaners) then use
Bon Ami, or some other type of cleanser, (Bon Ami does just fine) and if
you can, dip the stem amored with Bon Ami into some Everclear and set to
work cleaning out the shank and stem.  I usually keep the faucet just
dripping for the ease of cleaning.  If the stem and shank, respectively,
are clean, the cleaner will come out the same color when you wash it as
when you just took it out of the pipe.  After this is done, dry out the
bowl and stem with a paper towel.  Be careful, certain pipe stems will
oxidize quickly if you leave them under the water for too long.

The next step is dependent upon whether the bowl still has a really nasty
odor.  I give it a salt-treatment in this case.  That is, twist a piece of
paper towel into the shank so that it effectively could stop the flow of
salt - then fill the bowl with regular table salt (if you're would prefer
kosher salt, I'm sure it would be fine).  Then set the pipe up so that the
bowl is level (this may be difficult with some FH's) and gently saturate
the salt with Everclear.  Leave the mixture in for about 24 hours, and when
you come back to it, you'll see the difference (or at least, smell & smoke
the difference).

If the bowl is burned in on the top, you can sand it down so that it's flat
(this is a delicate area, so try to avoid doing this unless the pipe REALLY
needs it).  If the stem has many bite-marks, you can sand them down as
well.  Use maybe a 280 wet-dry sand paper and sand congruently with the
stem.  Make sure the sand-paper is wet.  After you finish with 280 - you
should get the bite-marks completely rid of before going on - use a 320, a
400, then a 500.  This will prevent the stem losing it's shine for later
on.  Sanding actually works fairly well for extremely oxidized stems.  The
upper-number sand papers are for getting the scratches to reasonable levels
before you buff:

Buffing:  The next step.  I have a two buffers set up, with four different
buffing compounds, and four different wheels.  For all practical purposes,
you can use Tripoli - a common buffing compound found all around, for the
second, you can use some type of fine, white buffing compound (sorry, I
don't have the name - you can always ask for something to polish lucite or
vulcanite with), which shouldn't be too hard to find, and lastly carnaubua
wax.  (I suppose you could hand buff these, but you would be about 80
before the pipe got clean - you would have arms like Paul Bunyan,
though--stay tuned for what to do if you don't have a buffer set-up).

For cleaning the bowl, I use the first wheel - a very hard wheel - and
apply Tripoli, just getting the top of the pipe if there is a lot of gunk
on top.  (Be VERY careful with meerschaums, you could easily eat away at
the shape of the bowl, as well as other pipes, with a little more
pressure).  Then I go to the fourth wheel - the soft one, and apply
carnauba wax.  This will give the bowl an excellent shine.

For the stem:  The second wheel (which is fairly hard) I have set up is for
the stem.  I use tripoli, and clean polish the stem until it has a mediocre
shine, and all of the oxidation has melted away.  The next wheel (3rd) is
for the 'fine white' compound.  This will make your stem start to sparkle.
The last is for the carnauba wax wheel, and you won't believe what a
difference it can make.  Your pipe will have gone up in value quite
significantly. WARNING: do be careful of two things, (a) don't buff the
mouthpiece to much - people get frantic about having a little nib to chew
on, and (b) be VERY careful of the nomenclature.  Certain pipes will have a
very easy buff-off rate with Tripoli, such as Charatans.  You won't have
any problem with Dunhills or most Comoy's.

If you have any metal on the pipe (many pipes have a sterling silver band)
you can use a silver polish which will make it look great.

This is only a quick bite into the cleaning process (meaning that I know a
little more than this, so if you have any more specific questions - I'll be
able to answer them).

If you find yourself lacking in any of this equipment, you can certainly
get someone at Sherlock's Haven to do it for cheap - usually $5 bucks,
sometimes $7 - for the worst of the worst.  You can either mail them - call
first, or come yourself to the address below:

Sherlock's Haven
1 Embarcadero Center
San Francisco, CA  94111
Phone: 415-362-1405

We also buy many used pipes (at great prices), so if you don't want to go
through the hassle of either of these, give us a call.

Hope this was some help...

Nanosh J. Lucas

(I couldn't seem to get through to America Onhold to mail this directly, so
if you would print this  - thanks!)

Nanosh J. Lucas
333 N. Rengstorff Ave. Apt #25
Mountain View, CA  94303

[ Consider it done! But the treatment to the top of the bowl seems a
little rough... almost like refinishing it. And... Bon Ami? -S. ]


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From: "Nanosh J. Lucas" <????????????????>
Subject: I almost forgot...

I almost forgot to mention another method for cleaning badly oxidized pipe
stems.  You can put the stems in a jar filled with REGULAR clorox bleach
for about two hours - no more.  Make sure you don't put any stems that
have metal on them, or any rubber (generally avoid cheap stems) stems,
such as "the pipe."  This is a tricky thing, and you'll have to buff them
afterward to get the shine back (they'll look pretty ugly).  Make sure you
clean them on the inside as well - they'll smoke pretty bad. 

Hope this was more help.... 

Nanosh


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From: ???????????????????????????

Hi Steve, et al - 

Had a quick question.  My life has gotten crazy enough and (with 
roomates) crowded enough that I really don't have the appropriate 
time/space to sit down with a pipe, but I missed it, so I compromised.  I 
still buy pipe tobacco (shag), but roll it into cigarette papers & smoke 
it like a pipe (no inhaling). I find that the tobaccos I'm smoking are 
a little more moist than Drum (which is what I used to smoke), but if I 
roll the cigarette down fairly tight, I get a fairly clean and slow burn 
whch lasts about 10 minutes instead of 30 - 40.

So, I'm curious as to opinions about this.  I'm sure that I'm missing 
something fundamental about the tobacco (other than the peacefulness), 
but it still tastes pretty good.  

Thanks,

Jeremy S. Woodburn
*******************************************************************************
                                                Send me a subpoena, baby,
???????????????????????????                     tell me what to do.
                                                -Grant Hart

[ Why not just do a small or short bowl? I do this often, and it's
fine. -S. ]


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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: #1(4) Pipes Digest #187 -...

Hi Steve,

I have been meaning to put in my two cents worth, but with opening a new
store, things sometimes get back burnered, as I am sure everone is aware.
 Well, a little about me.  My name is Roger Hawkins, and I own a store called
The Sundries Shop.  I just opened up in Feb (and just had the Grand opening
this past week).  I sell cigars, pipes (the few that I could find till now),
pipe tobacco, darts, game boards, etc.  I also have a section of the shop,
which my wife runs, where we sell candles and crafts. A little something for
everyone....well, enough of that shameless plug.  I am a 25 year old with an
extensive history in retail management (which is why I ventured into my own
store).  I am still hacking out my degreee slowly at a local private business
college, and getting ever so closer to that illustrious golden ring.  I
started smoking cigars about three years ago, celbrating the birth of my
daughter.  I started with Phillies and Garcia y Vegas (rather nasty now, but
it gave me an appreciation of what a truly good cigar can be), and now I have
access to the best available (with the exception of the Cubans) and I take
advantage when I can to expand my horizons.  I just for the first time two wee
ks ago picked up a pipe and filled the bowl with a golden vanilla blend of
tobacco and lit up. (it was an inexpensive corncob meerchaum, but at this
point I couln't tell the difference, honestly).  I found the pipe quite enjoya
ble and can forsee several more bowlfuls in the upcoming years.  I can't wait
to try a Dunhill, Troost, or MacBaren blend (or any other that may be
recommended) in a good pipe.  My only problem is that my wife does not allow
me to smoke in the house... :(  I am working on that one, and I think it will
change once I get a den put in.  I initially subscribed to PD here for the
possible information I could get to help me learn more about the industry I
am involved with, and I find reading all of the postings more than enjoyable
(and some rather disturbing....you know which one).  I can say that this is
some computer time well spent, and I print up every issue and put it in a
binder that I take to work with me to use as reference and for my customers
to browse through.  A definate positive reaction.  Anyway, Thank you Steve,
and all of you.  Smoke in peace.

Roger Hawkins, Bangor Maine



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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: #4(4) Pipes Digest #187 -...

Hi Again,

I read in our local rag ( The Bangor Daily News, Monday April 10th edition) a
story on the AP wire about a Tobaccanist in Portsmouth NH being driven out of
the location they held for 74 years by the landlords to put in a Bagelworks
shop.  There was a petition drive and a protest about the forced move, and
the landlord's response was that there were several vacancies down the
street, and that Federal Cigar would remain in operation, just in a different
location....That is very distressing to me, and I am sure to the rest of you
as well.

Just remember, if you have a local or favorite tobaccanist, please take care
of them!

Roger Hawkins

[ Great news, Roger! For those tobacconists confronted with similar
boneheads, consider organizing a resistance. -S. ]


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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: #1(4) Pipes Digest #187 -...

BEVERLY HILLS CIGAR CLUB!!!! "HAVANA"
Membership only, 3500 sq feet of space High ceilings shaped like a dome,
ceder wood,finest cognacs and wines from all over the world. also selling
cigars. Big screen T.V. Chess games, Poker tables, Magazines and Newspapers
from very country!!
Thre are several celebrities that  have joined.
 It is definitly the finest cigar club yet!.
E-Mail me for more... ???????????

[ Wish I could see! -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Introduction

     After 4 or 5 digests, I figure it's time to introduce myself.
     My name is Dave Goldstein.  I'm 23 years old, a graduate of Northwestern
University with a B.S. in Radio/TV/Film, and currently working as a
Production Assistant for Premiere Radio Networks.  I also perform in an
improv comedy troupe called "On The Spot," performing in various places all
over Southern California.  That's the un-tobacco-related stuff; now for the
good stuff:
     My first smoking experiences came when I was a child.  My father, a pipe
and cigar smoker, would often sneak me puffs when Ma wasn't looking.  While
it didn't seem like much at the time, I realize now how cool my dad was
being, and I'll never forget those times.
     I didn't smoke again 'til college.  The cigars of choice: Swisher Sweets
and Dutch Masters.  Quick snickering; they were cheap, and I didn't know any
better.
     After I started working for Premiere, I became good friends with two of
our staff writers, the comedy team of Pete and James.  In a short period of
time, they went from complete ignorance to cigar aficionados.  I started
thinking about my experiences with my dad when I was little, and decided to
join the guys in the pleasures of "good" cigars.  (It should be noted now
that I have yet to become serious about pipes; please don't take offense, but
I usually just scan the letters that deal solely with pipes.  It's not a
personal thing, nor a reflection on your writing capabilities, but more a
lack of interest in pipes, for the moment).
     Soon I was joining Pete and James on their daily excursions to the Cigar
Warehouse on Ventura Blvd. in Sherman Oaks.  This is where the hordes of
San-Fernando-Valley-based celebrities come to get their cigars.  The walk-in
humidor is bigger than my living room; the front of the store is a
smoke-filled gathering place for the regulars to compare smokes and tell bad
jokes.  Without a doubt, I am the youngest regular at the store, which is
good and bad; the novelty of being a twentysomething among mostly middle-aged
gentlemen has its moments, but it's also discouraging not to have "children
my own age to smoke with."
     My brand of choice is one of the most inexpensive in the whole store:
Kiskeya.  I prefer the milder smokes, and this one just tastes the best.
 When I've got the cash burning a hole in my pocket, I'll treat myself to a
PG or an Avo, but those times are rare.  Kiskeya, Romeo Y Julieta, and Las
Cabrellas are excellent, inexpensive cigars.
     As I am a fairly new [consistent] cigar smoker, I am just now being
exposed to the double standards between cigarette and cigar smokers.  A bar
may be packed with cigarette smokers, but God forbid I light up a stogie;
I've been asked numerous times to vacate the premises (granted I was naked
most of those times, but I'm sure it was the cigar!).  Do any of the other
Southern California readers know of places where a guy can get a beer and
light one up without fear of reproach?
     Well, that's my story.  As I'm sure you're well on your way to a more
stimulating letter by now, let me leave you with these words of wisdom:
"Smoking is a lot like life; you light one up and, um...puff ...and,
uh...blow out smoke...and...ummm...when you're done...you, uh...do..something
else...I guess."  Thank you.

Dave Goldstein
Davey ????????????

[ See the above... if you can afford it... -S. ]


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From: ??????????????
Subject: Re: #4(4) Pipes Digest #187 -...

I have a pipe which was given to me as a gift by a special friend. The pipe
is an Amorelli with one star under the name. The mouthpiece has a briar inlay
and the style is called a busbee  a fuoco. Does anyone know anything about
ths make? I think it cost her around $250-$300. I'm not sure, but this is my
guess. I haven't smoked it yet, so I can't report on how she works, but I'm
sure I will by the next publication. 

I am also interested in knowing about any good magazines or books on pipe
smoking. The cigar people have their new magazine, do we pipe people have
anything to rate the pipes of the world? How should I know if a certain
Dunhill is really worth the $300 price? Someone must rate them somwhere. 

I used to know of a club out of Virginia that sold quality pipes at a
discount over prices in fancy stores. They also had a newsletter. I have
since lost touch with this club. I would also appreciate it if someone knew
something about them. I think they were in Northern VA.   Thanks for the help
and keep smoking.
Ted

[ Carl Ehwa's book, "The Book of Pipes and Tobacco," is about the
best, but has been out of print for nearly 20 years. With Pipe and
Book may have a back copy. Barring that, Rick Hacker's "Ultimate Pipe
Book" isn't bad. -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Re: #4(4) Pipes Digest #187 -...

Dear Steve:

After being in the "Wings" for the past few weeks, I thought I would send you
a note and introduce myself to you and your readers.

I am a 33 Yr Old Professional Male.  I have lived in South Florida all of my
life and have been a Pipe Smoker since I was 25.  The service you provide to
us is exceptional and I think I speak for a lot of people.  To come home afer
a long day and have the ability to load a "Bowl" and kick back and read your
Digest is something very special.

I have enjoyed the volumes that I have received and look forward to many more
in the future.  Althought my collection is standing now at 24 Pipes, I was
wondering, Do you know of location that favors Large Freehands, or Large
Pipes in general.  I am a well built man standing at only 5-10 and fell most
comfortable with a Large pipe.  I have a few Bari's---they tend to be large
as you know......But I find it difficult to located Pipes of Large
Size....PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!  And again, Thanks for the great Digest.....

Sincerely,

Mark Olesen


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From: "Brian R. Zimmerman" <???????????>
Subject: Indoor Smoking Facilities

To Steve and the PD:

While touring a manufacturing facility in Finland last month, I was
suprised to find several smoking rooms scattered about the area.
There is a lot of cigarette smoking in Europe, and Finland is no
exception.  Also, this facility is rather close to the Arctic Circle,
so going outside in winter is not a good option.

Each chamber measured about eight feet square, about 12 feet high,
and had walls of very heavy plastic panels overlapping each other.
The overall shape was a tent, with the center of the tent, at the
very top, having an exhast vent that took 100% of the smoke out.  I
bet if you released a cigarette around your head, it would get sucked
out the vent.  The ashes seemed to pose no problem, either.

There were no chairs.  It was meant for getting your smoke and keeping
it [the smoke] out of the factory.  And it worked like a charm.  With
the awful stuff they smoked, it better work well!  But it demonstrates
where compromise can be found that really works.
--
Brian R. Zimmerman [???????????] Standard disclaimers apply.

[ Interesting! -S. ]


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From: "Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH" <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #187 -- April 9 1995

Quoth Steve Masticola:
+----
| > up cigars.  It also noted that Alfred Dunhill has been giving introductory
| > cigar-smoking "seminars" in New York.
| 
| [ Could you please us know more about these seminars? Thanks! -S. ]
+----

I regret to report that they didn't give any more information.  Do we have any
Baker Street Irregulars in the yuppie scene in NYC?

++Brandon

[ We have agents _everywhere_... :-) -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest #187 -- April 9 1995

Dear Steve,
  I just stumbled on a very tasty blend that English tobacco smokers might
enjoy.  My good friend Dr. Ray Bromley gave me a pound of Carey's Traditional
Virginia which in itself is very flavorful.  My only complaint was that it
seemed to burn a little fast and sometimes got a little hot.  So I took 1/2
pound of the Carey's and mixed it with 1/2 oz. of Perique and 2 oz. of latakia 
and it turned out exceptionally well.  It might need a tad bit more latakia
for my taste, but that was all I had at the time.   And I'm sure it will get
even better as the flavors marry in the tobacco jar.  Dr. Ray presses his
homemade blends, and I'm compelled to build a press of some type since my
first experiment was so successful. 

              Regards,
              Sam Alfano


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From: ???????????????????
Subject: Good Work!

Steve,
     Thought you handled the "Kevin" problem very well. I've beem smoking since
I was 13. Many of my friends has a few puffs on their grandfather's pipe or
cigar and were none the worse for it. Keep of the good work!

Bruce Perrussel
??????????????????? (Yup! the same who gave you a bad time earlyer on
a different issue.

[ Thanks for the vote of confidence, Bruce! And I've already forgotten
_what_ issue... ain't middle age wonderful? But please don't remind
me! :-) -S. ]


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From: Joachim Posegga <??????????????????>
Subject: For PD and Resource Guide

It's not in my version of the resource guide, but it should definitely
be included:

Astleys
16 Piccadilly Arcade
Jermin Street
London SW1Y 6NH
England

Phone: +44 71 937 3565
Fax:   +44 71 937 3796

If you like traditional English pipes, it's like heaven ... well,
maybe a bit more expensive...

Seriously: Astleys is a must if you happen to be in London. Their
pipes come in roughly 30 different shapes, all classical English
models. Besides this, they also have some freehands. Current prices
start at \pounds 65.00 for a machine made Astleys, and at \pounds
125.00 for hand made pipes. In my opinion excellent value for money.

        Joachim.


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From: ???????????????
Subject: The Pipe Digest

I am a recent subscriber to your excellent publication.  I have been smoking
cigars for about a year.  I average about 4 per week.  I have been wondering
about the potential health consequences of this very enjoyable activity.  But
since I hold two jobs and am working on a graduate degree, I have had no time
to do any research.  I would appreciate receiving information on this
subject.  Specifically, I wonder if (as I have heard) putting a rubber tip on
the end of one's cigar really cuts down on the risk of mouth cancer.
 Thank-you.

Rod.

[ Well, you'd avoid chewing the cigar, which might lessen the risk.
But I don't think it'd make a difference unless you chomp it. Has
anyone seen anything substantive on this? -S. ]


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From: ???????????????? (Ed Berggren)
Subject: Back Issues

Hello, Steve,
  Well, I sure hope you find a new spot for your Web Page.  I almost feel
lost without it.  After signing up for a subscription a few weeks back, I'd
go to the Page and download a back issue to read on the train ride home.
Now I can't do that.  So I'm wondering, if you have the time and
inclination, could you send me a few back issues?  Say, #160-170?  I would
appreciate it indeed.

  So much tobacco, so little time!  Reading in the PD about all the great
tobaccos to be tried leaves me salivating sometimes, but it seems I'm
buying it faster than I can smoke it.  I must have 7 or 8 tobaccos that
I've purchased recently waiting for me unopened, but I resist to open them
too soon.  I decided to go through each tin or pouch one at a time,
savoring its qualities down to the last crumb before trying another.  Right
now I'm working my way through the basic Dunhill blends with some Mac
Baren, Rattray, and local tobacconist blends waiting in line.  Sometimes I
wish I was more knowledgeable about what I was smoking so that I could
compare one blend and its ingredients to another to help me in my
purchasing decisions.  But fortunately, the submissions to PD by those who
are more knowledgeable are helping me gain an education.

  At the end of a long hard week, I like to remember the words of the old
French cavalier found wounded on the field of battle, "They slashed me many
times with their sabers, but I never lost my pipe."  (from Carl Ehwa's
book).


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From: ???????????????
Subject: Fwd: musings

try again with the right spellng...geez
---------------------
Forwarded message:
Subj:    musings
Date:    95-04-12 20:21:08 EDT
From:    RevoMan
To:      ????????????????????????

HI yet again Steve,

Well,  I have read through three issues of PD (I finally sat down and did
it).  Very interesting reading, and most educational for someone just getting
involved in the pipe industry.  I think as we all go along here I may post a
bit more frequently than others for a while as I learn the ins and outs of
what I am doing.  I will try to keep it light.  But I do have a few
comments/Queries for all though....

1)  How do I get ahold of an importer/wholesaler for Peterson or
Sesseini(sp?) pipes here in the US.  I have customers willing to put the
money down, if I can find them.  As well as these two, If you all would have
some recommendations of a good line(or two) to carry in the lower to
mid-priced range I would be more than grateful (and please no Dr. Grabow.)

2)  ON the lines of pipes...how do I find seconds and estate pipes that my
customers may be interested in (as well as myself! of course)

3)  Recently there was an inquiry to the availabilty of La Gloria Cubana
cigars (I apologize for not having you name handy).  Well, I contacted the
factory in Miami and the official response is that they are not shipping to
ANY stores or distributors in any significant quantity (three bundles or
more).  However..they are willing to ship one or two bundles or boxes at a
time, but depending on the size and wrapper there is a back order of 2 weeks
to 8 months (yes, months).  The reason for this is the poor crops of the last
couple of years creating a shortage on high quality wrapper leaves (as
mentioned in Cigar Affictianado's spring issue).  That coupled with a good
review pretty much set demand WAY above production.  If you would like the
number for LGC, Email me and I will pass it along.

Sorry for the length, Steve, but sometimes I get long winded.  Feel free to
edit as needed.  Also..I did not recieve issue 185 or 186, and would
appreciate the old send along treatment if it is not too much to ask.
 Thanks.

Roger Hawkins

[ (1): Contact RTDA. My address may be out of date, but it's in the
Index of Associations. (2) My guess on a good bet would be estate
liquidators, or advertise for them in the classifieds. (3) Thanks for
the info! -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????????? (JAMES T. DUNNE)
Subject: Posting for Pipe Digest

[ Administrativa deleted. -S. ]

I just rescued a pipe from a local flea market.  It's a very attractive
full-bent briar, with a silver-metal ring at the shank.  Strangely, 
though, this pipe appears to be a Peterson "system" pipe, but it's not.

It has a "classic" peterson stem, which I've never seen anywhere else, 
not even on Peterson Irish Seconds.  The bowl has a distinctive "fat"
shank with the standard Peterson  "System" double drilling and under-
bowl resivoir.  In fit an finish it is every bit as finely crafted as
a Peterson system pipe.  In fact, I think it's better put together 
than the new Peterson I drooled over at a local tobacconist's lat
Saturday.

The name Wellington is stamped in script on the shank, and in block
capitals on the stem.  The following mark also is stamped on the
stem,metal ring, and shank:

                              __________
                              \ W   D  /
                               \  C  /
                                 \ /             
                   
(the mark is much more finely crafted, obviously!)

In addition, there are 3 "crests" pressed into the metal ring  above
the triangle: an anchor, a star, and something else which I can't make
out clearly.

I've seen some new pipes recently that appear to be knock-offs of the
Peterson design, but frankly you'd have to be blind to mistake them 
for anything other than an inferior copy.  This isn't in that category.
Looking at it, it proclaims itself as a Peterson in every way.

If anyone can provide some info on the origin of this interesting speciman,
I'd be grateful.

                                Thanks

                          Jim Dunne            ~\U
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From: ????????????????
Subject: thank you and product intro

Dear Steve,

       Thank you for a wonderful digest., and also for letting join your
list. Let me introduce myself. I am Rafael Colorina. I have been a cigarette
smoker for over twelve years, and just recently switched to cigars.
        I  would love to receive mail from fellow subscribers about good
cigar products.
        By the way, I have something very excitingto tell you.....
This message might make some of the members of this group mad at me for
wasting their time, but I am sure all will be excited about my amazing
discovery.
        I always thought my yellow teeth were heriditary because they looked
as if they are painted wiyh yellow color. My wife just recently bought a
bottle of sugar free chewing gum called SMOKER"S FRIEND. I did not think much
of it but I tried the m anyway. I was shocked and could not believe how most
of my stingy stained teeth changed. My breath used to smell so bad that there
were times when I have some serious problems with my wife.! The company who
makes this product, also has dental microfibers that is supposed to remove
most dental stains. Also, they claimed that these products are 100% natural!
 Samples, anyone?  Call Lifelong USA at 708 470-9100 . 


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Happy Holidays

May everyone have a very Happy and Healthy holiday filled with only the very
best of smokes which life has to offer!

Karl Leeds

?????????????????

[ Thank you, Karl! I hope some of our members get this in time for the
holiday. (Easter, Passover, or some other.) -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: Chrchills

In my last post I told you about a place called Churchills in Long Beach. I
forgot to give you their address, but before I do I must update you on some
information I have acquired. It seems the owner was arrested at a tobacco
show last year for passing counterfiet (sp?) $100 dollar bills to the
dealers. Also I was told from an a.s.c. member that he also sold someones
Cohibas and pocketed a commision. The first bit of info has been confirmed by
at least three sources and one from the second. I felt it was important to
relate this info before posting the address as this has definitely changed my
feelings about the owner. I still did have a good time there, but, it will
now only be to mingle with other smokers and not to make it my regular stop.
This wouldn't be possible at the moment because I live in AZ.

                            Churchill's
                            5844 Naples Plaza
                            Naples Island, Ca 90803
                            310-433-3994

While I was there the owner also mentioned that someone in AZ was going to
open a Churchill's and felt he was stealing there idea. I finally found it,
you may have seen some of the posts on a.s.c. about it, in Phoenix. I've
dealt with the manager ( Bob Williams ) for a couple of years now when he
worked at Ford & Haig as there manager. This place is upscale! A beautiful
200 sq ft humidor seperates the store from the lounge. There is a memebership
fee for access to the clubroom. They asked me not to list the prices as they
may not be concrete. Anyway, inside the clubroom is a large screen TV, pool
table, highback leather chairs, and a place to stash your beverages. In the
store there are 3 large round tables with product ranging from books to
t-shirts and hats. I finally got to see the inside of an Elie Blue
humidor....... sorry thats my drool. They carry an exclusive Romeo y Juliteta
cigar from Honduras. Haven't tried it yet. They said the only other place you
can get it is at the smoking room in Beverly Hills called Nazareth. Bob's
father has a locker there. I guess when your father is Milton Berle many
things are possible. I definitely will be frequenting this place a lot.
Unfortunately not as a member. 

                        Churchill's Fine Cigars
                        5021 North 44th Street
                        Phoenix, Az 85018
                        602.840.9080

I know I've been rambling but I have to tell you one more story. You see It's
about my first smoke with my son. It's amazing the bond cigar smokers share.
You see my son is only three years old and wakes up every morning doing a 100
miles an hour and only stops for juice and to watch a movie.
 The other night while on the patio smoking my Don Tomas Corona out comes my
son. At first, I thought, he wanted to terrorize the neighbors with his
police car. Instead he looked at me and said " I got my sdar ( spelling for
pronunciation ) daddy!". He then sat down and proceeded to talk to me about
everything he could think of all while puffing away on our stogies. Yes his
was an imaginary cigar. I think I'll wait till he's five before the real
intro :). Amazing thing those cigars are when you can get your two year old
to sit still for twenty minutes or more.

That's All Folks!

Congrat Steve on passing 1000.  (__{@}_________|||

??????????????????
Jeff Guarino

"You are what you is." FZ

[ Thanks for the heads-up on Churchill's Long Beach, Jeff! And pass
along an (imaginary) sdar to your son, with my compliments. -S. ]


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From: ?????????????? (Steve Beaty)
Subject: the WWW page lives!!!

Steve,

        thanks to the kindness of Vince Callaway, the Pipes Digest WWW page
is back online. the URL is:http://www.tacoma.net/~pipes.  i don't have all
the bells and whistles put back in yet, but i'll be working on it...

        thanks,

        steve ?????????????????????????

[ Steve, you and Vince have my hearty appreciation. Thanks! -S. ]


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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Peterson Markings (Digest #187 Letter)

Mark, as it happens, Mr. Tony Dempsey is a dues-paying member of the Ohio
Pipe Collectors (yes, we are an international pipe club) and a strong
supporter.  Your letter in the Digest jarred my memory, and I went
searching back through our correspondence.  As I suspected, Tony wrote us
on May 26, 1994, to the effect that: "Generally speaking, earlier
generations in our Company were very negligent as far as our history was
concerned, and did little or nothing that would make it easier for us to
answer the many requests we receive for history and information about Kapp
& Peterson.  By coincidence, we just recently commissioned someone to
write a history of our Company which we hope will be interesting and
useful....Unfortunately, this is a time-consuming exercise which may take
6-12 months to complete.?
        Tony wrote again on Dec. 9, 1994, when he rejoined OPC for 1995. 
He again mentioned the company history--"It should be available in book
form within the next 12 months."  It appears they--or the writer
hired--are having some trouble.  In any case, I will write Tony very soon
to ask about the history.  As soon as details are available, I'll send
them to the digest.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors


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From: "Jacco van Muiswinkel" <??????????????????????>
Subject:       BAD HABITS

Hi Steve and all the others too,

As I read in previous editions of Pipes Digest the situation for 
smokers in the US are getting worse by the day. I sympathize strongly 
and consider myself lucky living in a country that is more 
permissive. At my last skiing holiday in Italy I had the opportunity 
to taste some of the sour fruits of the anti smoking movement. I 
booked into a hotel not being told that it was a NON SMOKING hotel. 
On my room was an ash-tray with a card laying in it saying "Non 
Smoking Room Thank You" (It's a bit of a contradiction is it: "Use 
this ash-tray while not smoking") It was a good ash-tray, it accepted 
all the ashes we put in it but every day the card was reinstalled and 
it just didn't feel right. Now if you don't allow smoking in the 
restaurant maybe I'd agree but you can't forbid people to smoke on 
their room without stating this in your brochure! (I'll never go 
to that hotel again!)

But now something different:

I'd like to bring on the matter of bad habits. We all have them and 
I'm interested in them. What (strange tings) do you use for tamping 
down the ashes in your bowl and what do you use to clean it with 
afterwards (socks, parts of your body, other peoples cloths?) What do 
you do with used matches when you can't throw them away immediately 
(do you end up with a matchbox with 50% used and 50% unused matches?) 
Do you sometimes _knock_ your briar pipe? Do you have any strange 
places you keep your tobacco (like I read in PD 184 Sherlock Holmes 
did). Do you smoke in elevators? Do you leave around used not yet 
cleaned pipes (spilling ashes) resulting in many an important 
document stained? Do you keep an impressing collection of half empty 
pouches of tobacco (you didn't like that much but would like to try 
later or kept for sentimental reasons) spilling in time most of their 
contents in drawers or boxes? Is your entire house littered with 
matchboxes just to have them handy. 
If you have any of such "bad" habits and would like to tell me about 
them: mail them to me and I'll post an anonymized selection of them 
back in PD.

Bye!
 
Jacco van Muiswinkel         | 
??????????????????????????   | 

[ And do you smoke while you're in church? :-) -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????????? (Jonathon Davis)
Subject: 1000th Member Acceptance and Thanks

Steve,  first I want to apologize for this belated response to the news that
I am the 1,000th member in the Pipes Digest -- I will carry the baton well,
rest assured.  Secondly, I want to express my gratitude for your efforts in
maintaining an excellent place for all Pipe smokers from around the world to
enjoy virtual friendships and discussions on the subject of pipes and
tobaccos.  It seems strange that two disparate arenas such as technology and
tobacco can combine so well, IMHO. 

About myself,  I live in Atlanta and work for a Fortune 40 company as the
manager of a client server software development group.  I've traipsed around
the Southeast over the past 15 years from Atlanta to Tampa to Orlando where
I worked for the immortal mouse but found that I couldn't take the heat and
humidity anymore so returned to the fair city of Atlanta.  Unfortunately,
the past year was upsetting as I experienced divorce and the resulting
financial burden of an unsold house and other miscellaneous items -- alas a
good bowl has often been there to soothe me over these long months.   

My pipe collection is not extensive but improving as I just purchased a
nice slightly bent Peterson but, clumsily, managed to set myself on fire
with a christening bowl of St. Bruno.  I've since been babying it with
Dunhill's Early Morning Pipe and a rather light mellow blend from
McClelland's,  Mixture No. 8.   I mostly enjoy English blends that have a
dry crisp character and that burn well.  A bowl of  965, a glass of fine
Scotch, and the Pipes Digest have often been best friends with me over the
past few months.

Thanks again Steve for the Pipes Digest.

Jonathon Davis

[ Jonathon, we're pleased to have you as our #1000 member. Thank you!
And the 999 before you, and the others who came after. And who still
find us every day. -S. ]


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                       Today's Snappy Comeback:

(To a dog-walker in the park:) "Sure. Say, there's something on the
bottom of my shoe. Could you kind of flick it off for me?" 

                                - From "101 Ways to Answer the
                                  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
                                  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,
                                  1987. 

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(                                      *   *                                  )
 ) Pipe smokers will rule the world!    * *        Internet Pipes Mailgroup  (
( (if they don't run out of matches...)  *  (for all who enjoy fine tobacco)  )
 )                                       *                                   (
(  Mosaic/Web:                           *      http://www.tacoma.net/~pipes  )
 ) Steve Beaty, Maintainer               *         ????????????????????????? (
(                                        *                                    )
 ) Plain FTP:             ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/br/brookfld/pipes_digest  (
(  Richard Geller, Maintainer            *             (???????????????????)  )
 )                                       *                                   ( 
(  Steve Masticola, moderator            *        (????????????????????????)  )
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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #186 -- April 15, 1995
  2. Subject: Re: #1(4) Your Pipes Digest s...
  3. Subject: Escudo
  4. Subject: administrative, back issues; tobacco swap
  5. Subject: Re: #1(4) Pipes Digest #187 -- April 9 1995
  6. Subject: Re: #4(4) Pipes Digest #187 -...
  7. Subject: Are big-name pipes really better?
  8. Subject: Questionable Postings to the Digest.
  9. Subject: "Kevin's"letter
  10. Subject: Re: Missing Pipes Digest
  11. Subject: Wanted: A place to sack out
  12. Subject: Who's in Central Virginny
  13. Subject: Re: fine cigarettes
  14. Subject: Deep cleaning used pipes
  15. Subject: I almost forgot...
  16. Subject: Re: #1(4) Pipes Digest #187 -...
  17. Subject: Re: #4(4) Pipes Digest #187 -...
  18. Subject: Re: #1(4) Pipes Digest #187 -...
  19. Subject: Introduction
  20. Subject: Re: #4(4) Pipes Digest #187 -...
  21. Subject: Re: #4(4) Pipes Digest #187 -...
  22. Subject: Indoor Smoking Facilities
  23. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #187 -- April 9 1995
  24. Subject: Pipes Digest #187 -- April 9 1995
  25. Subject: Good Work!
  26. Subject: For PD and Resource Guide
  27. Subject: The Pipe Digest
  28. Subject: Back Issues
  29. Subject: Fwd: musings
  30. Subject: Posting for Pipe Digest
  31. Subject: thank you and product intro
  32. Subject: Happy Holidays
  33. Subject: Re: Chrchills
  34. Subject: the WWW page lives!!!
  35. Subject: Peterson Markings (Digest #187 Letter)
  36. Subject: BAD HABITS
  37. Subject: 1000th Member Acceptance and Thanks
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