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Subject: Pipes Digest #190 - May 22, 1995

		  Pipes Digest #190 - May 22, 1995
	     Copyright (C) 1995 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 1130

Welcome to new members:

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[PIPE] Couple of items... the new issue of the Ephemeris and the
permiere issue of Pipe Friendly both arrived in the mail this
week. Tom Dunn included a nice writeup of the Digest near the front of
the Ephemeris. Haven't had a chance yet to do more than skim them, but
it's on my queue!

And, as summer approaches (here in the northern hemisphere, anyway),
stretch out in your favorite hammock, pour yourself something tall and
cool, and light up with us...

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             Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
                        Call -- Write -- Vote
                        Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: "CHRIS F.A. FREUD" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request

Hello Steve and Company....

I've just started to browse my first issue of Pipes Digest and I am very 
excited.  It's great to see fellow lovers of the leaf out there in large 

A bit of background... I am 23 years old and have been smoking cigars and 
pipes for the last five years or so. In general, I do prefer pipes, but 
it's really a mood thing for me.  I am a journalism student at San 
Francisco State and I work part time at Sherlock's Haven, a pipe and 
cigar store in San Francisco.  (It's a tough life, you know. :))

As far as favorite smokes go...

Pipes: I like big bowled pipes (i.e. 2 hr plus smokes).  I would say that 
my favorite pipe maker these days is Paul Perri, a retired craftsman in 
southern california, who makes high quality pipes at a low price because 
he does it for enjoyment.

Pipe Tobacco:  I flip between aromatics and virginias.  (Latakia gives me 
the head spins)  Right now I am smoking my ragular aromatic, which isLane 
RLP-6.  At Sherlock's, it goes by the name Black Jack and it is very 
similar to Dunhill's my mixture A20,000, if that helps.  As my treat 
tobaccos, I smoke St. Bruno Flake (Virginia), Butera Blended Flake 
(virginia) and Butera Sweet Cavendish.

Cigars: Amomg Domestically available smokes, I really enjoy Paul 
Garmirian Bellicosos.  From the land of Cuba, although with some caution, 
I love Romeo and Jullietta Churchills.  (Although I just ran into three 
Monte Christo Pyramids, so this may change.)

Just from my browsing of the list so far, it seems that we are all in the 
same boat as far as the anti smoking hysteria, so I look forward to 
comiserating.  But more importantly, I look forward to talking about good 

In the leaf we trust,

Chris Freud

[ Welcome to our virtual haven, Chris! -S. ]

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From: "CHRIS F.A. FREUD" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Early Morning Pipe

Re: Jacco van Muiswinkel's post about englishes and Early Morning pipe.

I can think of two possibilities of why the early morning didn't agree 
with you.

1)Maybe Early Morning, the blend itself just doesn't agree with you.  I 
would try another english blend.  Who knows? You may like the new blend 
and your problem is solved

2)You may not react well to latakia.  I for one am among that rank.  I 
have smoked Early Morning, 965, Nightcap, other Lane Englishes and 
Esoterica blends and I just get the spins.  Not all toboacco is right for 
everyone and englishes certainly aren't for me.

On that vein... have other people have similar reaction to different 
styles of tobaccos?  I have found that I enjoy virginias and aromatics, 
whereas some of my fellows smokers get the spins when smoking virginias 
or can't stand the chemicals in some aromatics.


In the leaf we trust,

Chris Freud

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From: "CHRIS F.A. FREUD" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Cubans


I have a friend who just came back from Europe with two full boxes of 
relabeled Cohibas so it is quite common practice. One just has to be 
extremely careful from whom you buy your cuban cigars whether it be in 
the US (there 10 million cubans a year in the US) or abroad.  There are a 
lot of fraud artists out there willing to take advantage of the 
undiscriminating buyer.

In the leaf we trust

Chris Freud

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Water pipes

I read in #189 that there is some kind of shortage of water pipes. Well I
live in San Fracisco and there is water pipes of all sorts. Old, new, big,
small, just about anything you can think of. I think it is due mainly due to
the fact that the hippies like to smoke marijuana in them because it burns so
hot. If anyone is intrested e-mail me with a discription of what you are
looking for and I'll check it out. most likely I can just provide you with
name and number of the shop for you to just order it and have them send it to
you. If they do not ship I would be more than happy to do it for you, free of

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: Alfred Baier, pipemaker

Dear Steve,
  I spent a week in Vermont this February, and happened upon a nice fellow who 
makes pipes in the town of Manchester.  My friend and I were driving down the
road on our way to a museum one morning, and my eye caught a sign with the
shape of a pipe on it that read "pipemaker" and "Butternut Lane" which was
just ahead.  
  Turning onto the snowy road, we managed our way down to another sign in
front of a small shop emblazoned with the telltale pipe shape.   Through the
frosty window we could see a bearded fellow clad in a worn apron with clouds
of smoke billowing from a freehand bent clenched tightly in his teeth.  It was 
Alfred Baier, the pipemaker known for his unusual carvings in briar.   What a
treat this was for me, as I had just completed my fourth handcarved pipe, and
had never met another pipemaker, much less expect to find one by accident a
thousand miles from my Louisiana home!  We were greeted at the door by a
friendly Mrs. Baier who escorted us through the house and into the pipe shop.  
Alfred peered up from a pipe he was staining and welcomed us.   His showed us
samples of his carvings and preliminary drawings he had done for an upcoming
job as well as photos of earlier works.  Basically, the fellow will carve just 
about anything you can imagine in briar!  His shop was cluttered with
machinery and hand tools -- tools of the pipemaker's trade.  We stayed about
45 minutes with him and then headed back on the road to our museum
destination.  Had we not been pressed for time I certainly would have stayed
longer.   If anyone is interested in obtaining a hand carved pipe -- a
one-of-a-kind pipe with animal head, portraits, ect., you can contact Alfred
Baier at Butternut Lane, PO Box 2043, Manchester, VT, 05255.  You won't meet a 
nicer fellow anywhere.    

               Sam Alfano

[ Sounds great, Sam! I'll put him in the Guide. -S. ]

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From: "John D. Morvant" <?????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #189 - May 13, 1995

Steve: In the Digest Kameran Kashani asked if he was getting ripped off 
on Cubans at $20-$22 Canadian. I just got back from Hong Kong and the 
larger Cohibas were going for $25 US whilte the smaller sizes were going 
for $20US. I checked prices at the Davidoff store in the Peninsula and 
the Coiba Divan in the Oriental and both were the same. Regards, John 
Morvant, University of Guam.

[ Price of fame, I suppose... -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????? (David Quisenberry)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest

Steve, You may have already received a post about this, if so, feel 
free to delete it (I didnt get a chance to read all of #182).  Several 
members of Alt.Smokers.Cigars started having IRC chat sessions every 
Saturday afternoon at 2 P.M. EDT.  What started as a few people has 
grown to the point that just about any night of the week the chat line 
is going with at least 3-4 people.  The channel is #cigarsmokers.  We 
have also started a channel on Undernet in hopes of making it 
permanent.  Discussion runs rampant from cigars to pipes to politics to 
computers.  I have made several cyberspace friends in this forum.  I 
would welcome anyone to our chat sessions, or invite someone to 
organize a #pipesmokers chat conference.  BTW, there are directions on 
how to access the chat channels on the Fuji web page.

David Quisenberry

[ I've put #cigarrsmokers in the Guide, David!  What a great idea!
Can't organize a regular #pipesmokers chat session just now, but
perhaps one of our other members would like to take the initiative. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Underage Smokers

Dear Steve:
           I noted in your most recent issue that posts from or
about underage pipe smokers (15 years in the last issue) are 
still being presented.  So far as I know, in most states it's 
against the law to sell tobacco to young folk under 18.  While 
I'm well aware that many are irritated by the present tendency 
to anti-smoking legislation, the underage tobacco sales ban is 
generally agreed to be a good thing: people should be well on
their way to being adults before deciding whether or not to be-
come smokers.  Accordingly, just as you regulate other appearances 
in the pages of Pipes Digest, I'd strongly suggest your excluding 
and/or discouraging posts from or directed towards underage smokers.  



[ You're correct; it's against the law to sell tobacco to a minor.
The Digest doesn't encourage breaking the law.  However, IMHO, people
grow up at different times.  It really ought to be the decision of the
parent or guardian.

Anyway, I'm not going to change the Digest's policy to include such
discussions as a censorable item. Though I would discourage underage
smokers from trying to use the Digest to cadge tobak.  I'd rather see
them consult their parents on this. -S. ]

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From: Mathias Brandstetter <?????????????????????????????????????>
Subject: Hello, everybody!!!

To Steve and all the others who can read this.


nice to meet you.

Sorry, that i answered so late to your
newsgruop, but i am in the middle of
my 'Vordiplom', i am a physik student and
it is a verry hard job in the moment.

I am very new in this stuff of communication.
So i simply replied to your message.
I hope that this is the right way to post
a statement in your corner.
I am a new member of the club of pipe smokers.
I am from Frankfurt, Germany, so please excuse my bad 

I have two problems here in germany the
industrie thougt that they only be able to sell
pipes with the 9mm Filter in, and what do you think
about this.
How many of you use pipes with a filter in it.

Here in germany we had a new tobacco from
danmark, it is ORLIK CLUB and it tastes
very good.

I had a further problem, during the smoking a pipe
the temperature of this pipe gets rather high,
how does profis in pipe smoking handle this?

If somebody out there can give me a good answer
i will be happy for it.

With friendly wishes

[ [ Re the filterless pipes, how about just pulling the filter out?
(Or can't they be pulled out?) Re getting hot, it's probably caused by
puffing too fast, improper packing, or tobak that's too dry or too
wet.  Experiment, and find the cause. And welcome! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????? (Even Flood)
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request


Thanks for the welcome. Good to meet fellow pipe smokers on the
Net - here in Norway the Pipes smoker is a lonely hobby.

I am a Norwegian, 51 years - been smoking since the summer of
1968 but I started with mild tobaccos and low priced pipes (starting
out carefully...) and so it took half a year before I bought a good pipe
(all or nothing!) and a stronger tobacco (Three Nuns) and discovered that
this was good. 

So since then I have been a regular. Have ca 30 pipes - major part of the
collection is Stanwell who constantly surprise me with their selection
of pipes that are beautiful, good to smoke and reasonably priced. I have also
some "Larsen" pipes - Norwegian brand now made in Denmark. Excellent

I buy most of my pipes travelling - especially in Copenhagen. Ah - the joys
and frustration of "Stroeget" - the main shopping street  in the center
of town and with  some ofe the best tobacco shops. All those beautiful pipes
displayed there! And the supreme frustration that I cannot have them all
- my purse is too shallow, my life is to short, my mouth is too little!

Favourite tobaccos are still Three Nuns and (my main favorite) 
St Bruno Flake. Mick McQaid was a third, but here in Norway
we only get the ready rubbed version. Not for me! Occasionally
I get the MMcQ from Smith Snuff shop in London in the square cut.
Much better.

Prices for tobacco is here in Norway about 80 kr for 50 grams -
that is about 13 USD or 7.5 GBP.

Smoke well!

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Even Flood
Reference Librarian                         "Come, and take choice of
Norwegian DIANE Center                       all my library, and so
Technical University Library of Norway       beguile thy sorrow."
N 7034 Trondheim, Norway                       (Shakespeare)
Phone: +47 73 59 51 62, Fax +47 73 59 51 03

[ Welcome, Even! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Countdown started/Pipestone info.

Hello again, all--

A couple things to pass on since last I wrote-- 1) Countdown to
liftoff--Pipes Digest, reporter at large and 2) some more info. from the
gratious people of the Pipes Digest:

My X-Country Excursion to Start Soon:
I got a canopy on the truck yesterday, I have a housesitter lined up.  I just
need to prepay a few bills, get my dog settled in at my folks house, get the
housesitter squared away and then I'm ready to load the truck and head out!
 Periodic updates to the PD will begin soon after!  In the meantime, I've
gotten more great letters of encouragement and offers to stop in and visit,
and places to spend a night.  Things are shaping up nicely!

I also have a HP200LX palmtop computer which I plan to keep with me at all
times.  I should be able to take "on location" notes while job hunting, and
(more importantly :) while visiting pipe stops, which can be uploaded to the
portable computer that I'll bring with me.  Then, I'll hook the modem up when
I come close to phonelines and power, and send you updates as I can.

In case I didn't say it before, I'm hoping that I'll be able to stay in close
enough touch with the Steve and the Pipes Digest crew so that as I come into
a region of the country that might have a particularly interesting stop, that
I can be alerted by the PD readers and change course so that I can attempt to
make a visit and report back.  The beauty of this trip (I hope), will be that
I don't HAVE to be in any particular place at any particular time.  If a
place sounds promising, I'll check it out.

PipeStones and Exotic Equipment:
I got a great letter from James Lawson that was real interesting, so I wanted
to share the great story he wrote to me.  He originally wrote me about the
pipe stones I was interested in, but also talks about some other interesting
experiences later of how he was able to talk, over the phone, with the author
of "The Ultimate Pipe Book":

---------- Portions of James' letter follow -------------
 ...He sold me a piece of equipment that was written about and pictured in his
book.  He threw in a whole case of EricsKeystones along with the piece of
equipment I inquired about, at no extra charge.  I was gratified.

I have been very pleased with the Keystones.  I smoke nearly every type of
pipe tobacco - even the aromatics.  As you know, the aromatics burn wet.  The
Keystones work quite well, IMHO.

As far as I know, the stones are not available in this country.  They come
from Denmark, a lovely country that I have visited many times.  I will
certainly try to access more Keystones on my next visit.

Hope this interests you,

James Lawson (aka BriarPipes)

Subj:	Hacker reference
Date:	95-05-13 01:12:47 EDT
From:	BriarPipes

Hi again, Charlie,

The piece of equipment I alluded to in Hacker's book was the Pipeking.  This
machine cleans one's briar pipes if used properly.

I'll briefly describe it.  The unit has a small electric motor mounted on it.
There is an adjustable clip which holds the pipe by its stem.  The mouthpiece
of the pipe is inserted into a flexible, rubber hose that is attached to the
motor housing.  To clean one's pipe, you fill the bowl with the cleaning
solution provided (grain alcohol will work).  You then turn the motor on,
ensuring that there is a clean filter in the motor.  Within minutes the pipe
is drained of the cleaning solution and ready for the pipe cleaner swabbing.
I have found that this unit, though noisy, is quite effective.  Hacker wrote
in his book that the Pipeking is also useful for accelerating the browning of
meerschaum pipes.  I have had less success with this purpose.  

Rick Hacker was very pleasant to me on the phone when I called him about the
Pipeking.  We agreed on a price for the very Pipeking that he photographed in
the 2nd edition of his pipe book.  Once I mailed him a check he shipped the
unit right out (along with the EricsKeystones I mentioned earlier).  He wrote
me a handwritten letter on his personalized stationery that features his
likeness in a cartoon form.  Very nice.

When I'm not using the Pipeking, I keep it on my desk in the office.  It sits
next to my pipe tobacco humidor and an antique oil lamp.  It is an
interesting conversation piece when people see it.   ...

---------- End of James' excerpts --------------

So, if anyone out there knows of a place that has the pipestones that James
talked about, (check your local tobacco shop--mine didn't have them!), I, and
I'm sure others, wouldn't mind knowing where to get them.

Type to you all later -- Thanks, Steve.  You've heard it before, but hear it
again:  You do a great job of administering the pipes mailing list!

--Charlie Jewell

[ Thanks, and we'll be looking forward to reading of your Blue Smoke
Highways trip! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: L'art de Fumer la pipe


While I was living in France, I picked up a brochure in a pipe shop.  It is
put out by Ch. CORRIEU.  It is in French but I will attempt to offer an
adequate translation.  NOTE!  I do not pretend to be a French-language
scholar.  Also, I will by necessity omit the obligatory accent markings in
the French text.  Hope this doesn't offend any French-speaking members.

(The 7 rules of the pipe smoker)

1.  Pour fumer une pipe neuve: Les 5 premieres fois, remplissez votre pipe au
tiers.  Les 5 fois suivantes, remplissez-la a moitie.  Fumez toujours votre
pipe completement.
(Trans.  In smoking a new pipe: the first five times, fill your pipe one
third of the way.  The next five times fill it half-way.  Always smoke your
pipe completely.)

2.  Bourrez votre pipe par petites quantites en tassant bien le tabac, sans
toutefois lui faire perdre son elasticite.
(Trans.  Fill your pipe with small quantities of tobacco and tamp it without
losing its springiness.)

3.  Fumez tranquillement, par larges boufees, pour ne pas surchauffer le
fourneau.  Fumer par petits coups precipites echauffe la fumee et donne un
gout acre.
(Trans.  Smoke slowly, with long puffs so that you don't overheat the bowl.
 If you smoke with small and fast puffs you heat the smoke and render a
bitter taste.)

4.  Si, en allument votre pipe, le tabac fait des "boucles", retassez-le et
allumez de nouveau.  N'oubliez pas que le tabac doit bruler sur toute sa
(Trans.  If the tobacco rises when you light your pipe, tamp it again and
relight it.  Remember that the tobacco must burn over its entire surface.)

5.Rien n'est plus important qu'un bon tirage.  Il vaut mieux vider une pipe
qui tire mal et la bourrer de nouveau, plutot que de fumer une pipe qui
(Trans.  A right draw is most important.  You should empty a bad-drawing pipe
and refill it, rather than smoke a "gurgling" one.)

6.  Nettoyez regulierement votre pipe avec un cure-pipe.  Enlevez aussi les
debris de tabac et de cendres qui restent au fond, pour etre sur de fumer
(Trans.  Consistently clean your pipe with pipe cleaners.  You should remove
the dottle and ashes, that remain in the bowl, so as not to smoke dry. (?))

7.  Si vous avez l'habitude de fumer une pipe apres l'autre, mieux vaut en
avoir plusieurs et les utiliser a tour de role.  Une pipe doit etre
completement refroidie pour etre digne de recevoir un bon tabac.
(Trans.  If you typically smoke several pipefuls you should own several pipes
and alternate them.  A pipe deserves a good tobacco, only after it has

There.  I think I have the basic idea that is intended.  If  members see any
glaring errors - let me know.  Please use English.  I was more extensively
trained in Latin and classical Greek than French, so forgive any

Next week I hope to submit the short remainder of the brochure which
describes "the pipe-smoking man".

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here.  This is the War Room"

-from the movie "Dr. Strangelove"


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From: "Johnson, Bill" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Tamping While Driving

>>>[ Personally, I keep a tamper in the car, and have no trouble using it
when the occasion arises... but YMMV. -S. ]<<<

Personally, I'm confused by all this brew-ha-ha over how to tamp while 
driving.  I tamp the same way while driving that I do while sitting in my 
deck chair at home -- with my right forefinger.  No special equipment, no 
fuss, no muss, no bother.  This may sound as if I have a cast-iron finger; 
 in truth, I've never suffered a serious burn (or even serious discomfort) 
from doing this.

Good Ol' BillyBob
Rebel Without A Clue

[ Yes, but doesn't this get ashes on your finger? -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Re: #1(3) Pipes Digest #188 -...

Dear steve,

I logged on to pipes digest over a month ago and enjoy reading
each new issue. i'm a devoted cigar smoker  that enjoys expanding my
knowelege in all areas. i've enjoyed the comments of others on there love of
pipe smoking and even started smoking  a good blend now and then. I wounder
if you and your readers could help me out
with my hobby of collecting back issues of Cigar Aficionado. If anyone is
willing to put me in touch with a copy of vol1 ,no3 spring'93
and vol1,no4 summer'93 also vol2,no2 win'93/94 I would be in your
debt. contact me at ?????????????????
thank you,A.L.  

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From: ??????????????????? (Gord Ferguson)
Subject: When a Stogie becomes a Cigar...Reprint from Toronto Star

This article was published in the Toronto Star, dated May 15th 1995 by staff
reporter Bob Brent, and is retyped without permission with apologies to the
When a Stogie becomes a Cigar...
You might say he has money to burn.
The lowly stogie was raised to exultant heights last night as a Texas real
estate investor bid a combined $29,000 US (about $40,000 Can.) for two boxes
of rare Cuban cigars signed by Fidel Castro himself.
In all, five boxes of Castro's very own Trinidad brand were sold for a total
of $63,000 US, with the money going to Cuban medical relief, as stipulated
by the Cuban leader.
Another $25,000 US was raised for the Variety Village of Ontario to help
physically disabled children
The evening was a love-in for cigar afficionados, who revelled in the thick
cloud of smoke that carpeted a second floor ballroom, obscuring their
revelry as it spilled into the hallways of the Four Seasons Hotel (Toronto).
Each course in the elegant meal was separated by one of four cigar
"interludes", each featuring a differnt brand, including the Cohiba
Espledidos selling at $1,100 a box.
High bidder Eric Brauss was upstaged by actress Whoopi Goldberg, in town
shooting the movie "Bogus", who took home the final batch of Trinidads with
a bid of $9,000 US.
Goldberg consented to having her picture taken with the treasured tocacco
but was mum with reporters.
Brauss, 52, said he was happy to help a good cause while adding to his
collection of rare cigars and bottles of Port wine."I think I'll break down
somewhere (and smoke one)," he told reporters. "It's relaxing...just very
When he does decide to light one up, it will likely be north of the border.
It's illegal under a 30-year-old trade embargo to bring Cuban goods into the
United States.
No problem, said Brauss, who moved to Dallas five years ago from Windsor,
Ontario, where he maintains his collection in a humidor.
Auction organizer Marc Tansy, operations manager for Havana House Cigar &
Tobacco Merchants Ltd., said the U.S. embargo has established Canada as a
"mecca" for American cigar smokers.
While tobacco is grown throughout the Caribbean, Cuba's rich acidic soil
gives the leaves a unique and strong flavour that is unsurpassed, he said.
Tassy described the Trinidads made from leaves selected from the best of
Cuba's tobacco in the Laguito region, as "an absolute rarity," unavailable
for sale.
Cuban leader Castro - oncw known for an ever present cigar clenched in his
fist - has sworn off alcohol and tobacco, but still has the Trinidads made
for him alone, Tassy said.
Each box of 50 Trinidads bore Castro's signature and the date May 3rd 1995.
Havana House was expected to lose money on the $500-a-ticket event which
drew about 140 guests.
Among the up-front costs: about $200 a person for food and liquor with
another $200 a person covering the inter-meal cigar breaks.
Tassy was less willinf to divulge the cost of one other expense on the
evening: a dozen or so young woman models who were hired to attend the event
to - in his words - "break the ice."
"On an evening like this, you end up with a bunch of men sitting at a table
staring at each other," he said.
"There's nothing more boring than a bunch of men sitting at a table staring
at each other."
Actress Kirstie Alley caused a stir, entering the ballroom in a rented
vintage gown on the arm of husband Parker Stevenson. "I know nothing about
cigars execpt that my husband smokes them," she deadpanned. "I've never been
to a smoke - that's what you call this, isn't it ? - but it's very...smoky."

(Again, thanks to Star Staff reporter Bob Brent, for covering the event...GF)

[ That's too rich for my blood, Gord! A thousand-dollar cigar! Wonder
if it would smoke well? -S. ]

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From: "Mr. Joshua" <????????????????????????????????>
Subject:       Re: Pipes Digest #189 - May 13, 1995

I don't know if this has been posted yet- due to the fact that I need 
a while to read this digest for its length- but!- I was at Tender Box 
a few months ago and was discussing the list that I printed up about 
cigars from WWW and the worker told me that they were going to start 
up another WWW page and digest, (for the Tender Box). Just thought 
that I would relay this information to all.

                                -Joshua B. Hoynes

[ Please let us know the particulars when it happens! -S. ]

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From: Andrew Lewis Tepper <[email protected]>
Subject: I'm in Cigar Aficianado!

I'm not sure this is something I want to brag to my reletives about, but
Pipes Digest readers will understand my enthusiasm. I'm quoted in the
article "Smoking in the Boardroom" in this month's Cigar Aficianado!

I really wish they had put my picture in there along with pictures of
all the "Fortune 500 crowd", although even being in the article was a
kick. I've got a Davidoff Double "R" (which I'm distressed to find out
is one of Clinton's brands) in my humidor which I'm planning to smoke
this afternoon while reading the rest of the issue.

| Andrew L. Tepper     | 1-500-28TEPPY             |
| IronSoft, Ltd.       |           (home,work,car) |
| 320 Sunset Drive     | 1-412-824-3868(f)         |
| Pittsburgh, PA 15235 |                           |
| Fun is: Pinball, wine collecting, Libertarian    |
|         politics, flying, swimming holes,        |
|         cigars, trampoline, fireworks.           |

[ Congratulations, and don't take it too hard about the Double "R"! -S. ]

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From: "PaulSaunders" <??????????????????????????????>
Subject: [Cigar] An Introductory Cig

                      Subject:                              Time:  3:56 PM
  OFFICE MEMO         [Cigar] An Introductory Cigar         Date:  5/17/95

Top of the day to you, cigar afficianados!  I have just signed on to Digest
and I thought I might introduce myself; perhaps I might even give you pause to
smile.  I am what you might call a "Saturday Night Cigar Smoker."  About three
months ago, I turned to my girlfriend and said, "Wouldn't it be grand to sit
outside on Saturday night, listen to jazz and blues on the radio, sip some
Scotch and smoke a cigar?"  The idea was absolutely titillating!

So, when Saturday came around, we both strolled into the local tobacco shop
and walked right up to the young man at the counter.  "Sir, we are in the
market for an introductory cigar.  We have never partaken of this particular
pleasure, but this evening we plan on sitting down, listening to jazz and
blues on the radio, sip some Scotch and smoke our very first cigar.  Perhaps
you would be so kind as to make a recommendation?"  Needless to say, the man
behind the counter looked at me like I had four heads!  And then WHAM! he was
off and running in his pitch.

"Now, for an introductory cigar, introductory mind you, you might want to
consider some of these Fuentes, but if you're going to be sipping Scotch maybe
you want to consider a darker cigar, but the jazz and blues twist brings us
right around to (and here he reaches into a box) these Macanudos."  And out he
pulls a huge cigar and my eyes just light up.  "Yes sir, this will give you
several hours of complex yet smooth enjoyment."  He pauses like all great
actors, savoring the taste in his mind.

"Well good.  We'll take two."  And my girlfriend and I walked out with
purchases in hand.  That night we smoked our first cigars (Macanudo Prince
Phillips) while listening to the radio and downing a bottle of Knockandoo
Scotch.  I seemed to enjoy the experience more than she did, which is the
reason why I am tap-tapping on my keyboard at this moment.  Bye for now.

[ Well, both are acquired tastes... -S. ]

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From: "CHRIS F.A. FREUD" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #189 - May 13, 1995

Re: Santa Barbara Smoking reversal....

Earlier in the week, the San Francisco Comical ran a story saying that 
Santa Clara County (fifty miles south of San Francisco) is considering 
repealing its strict ordinance against smoking in restaurant and some 
bars.  Apparently local merchants have seen their business drop by 25 
percent.  I'm so happy to see smokers talking with their wallets.  
Unfortunately we can't fight the anti-smoking movement with logic, but 
we can with our wallets.  Of course, the anti-smoking groups are starting to 
get worried that other counties will be coming to their senses.

  The same problems 
that Santa Clara Restraunteurs are encountering in San Francisco, where 
there is no smoking in restaurants and where smoking in bars will be 
banned at the end of the year.  SF restaurants have seen a bit of a drop 
off in business but have encountered another problem: lack of table 
turnover.  Customers have been stepping out during dinner to have a 
smoke, which has extended the time that a table is occupied per party.  
Instead opf getting in three seatings per table a night, restaurant are 
getting two.

Keep on talking with your wallet, people.  Support establishments which 
allow smoking and avoid those that don't.  It is working.

In the leaf we trust,

Chris Freud

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From: "CHRIS F.A. FREUD" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #189 - May 13, 1995

Re: Tamping and Driving

I got very good at this while drinking between school in LA and home in 
San Francisco along I-5.  With my left hand on the wheel, I keep my pipe 
in my mouth and tamp with my right hand.  Then I use my right hand to 
re-light.  It works quite nicely.

Happy safe tamping and driving,

In the leaf we trust,

Chris Freud

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From: "CHRIS F.A. FREUD" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #189 - May 13, 1995

Re: Possible Pipe Magazine/ Cigar Afficianado rant

I would like to see a "Cigar Afficianado" type magazine for pipes, BUT, I 
really would hope it would stay away from that magazine's inane rating 

First... CA compares apples and oranges in its testing.  In its recent 
tasting of churchills, it compared a Cuban Romeo and Jullietta and a 
Macanudo.  The only thing those two cigars have in common is their size.  
If you like a light cigar, the Macanudo is a 90, while the Romeo and 
Julliet is a 50, because that sucker is going to make you throw up.  If 
you like a heavy smoke, as I do, then the Romeo is superb and the 
Macanudo is a waste of my time.  Long story short, the CA taster's taste 
in cigars has as much of an influence in the ratings as the cigar itself.
I really wouldn't want to see a pipe magazine rating aromatics and 
englishes in the same tasting.  Yikes!

Second... What's in a number?  Most of the tastings have a few cigars 
over ninety and then a whole bunch in the 80s.  Can you honnestly tell me 
the difference between a cigar that's rated an 85 and one that's an 87?

Third... While CA has done wonders for the cigar industry, its rating 
have turned smoking into a real status thing.  The store I work at had La 
Gloria Cubanas and Licenciados for years and no one bought them (This 
is not to say they're not good cigars.  I like la glorias).  CA 
gave them a fancy rating and we haven't been able to stock them since.  
Some people in the industry do consider good ratings a curse for this 
The testings are good in that they tell people what's out there.  I don't 
have a problem if you see a cigar with a high rating and you want to try 
it.  By all means.  But, don't like a cigar because it got a nice 
number.  Like it because you enjoy the taste, contrsuction, draw, etc...

But getting back to the point... While I would like to see an increase in 
pipe smoking, I don't want to see what CA has done to the cigar industry 
to the pipe industry.  (I would bet you that if there were ratings on 
pipe tobacco, you would never see esoterica tobacco again... and lemme 
tell you that would tick me off.)

End rant....

In the leaf we trust,

Chris Freud 

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From: ????????????????????????????
Subject:   MANY THANKS!

Greetings and Gratitude to you, Steve, for sending me my first issue. This
is a super media for me. I don't know very many people for whom
pipe-smoking and the things around it is a hobby and a love. Cigarettes was
a habit; my pipes are a totally different matter.

I began my love affair with pipes when I was in seminary in St. Paul, MN 25
years ago. There were so many pipe shops around back then and I tried to
make all of them regularly.

Early on I started smoking Edwards' Scottish Moor and in 25 years have
managed to move over to Edwards' Brandywine. Tried a lot of tobaccos, but
none grab my taste buds the way these two do. Occasionally I like a latakia
blend and prefer Tinder Box's Philosopher. Used to smoke a Charatan or Lane
Limited blend that came only in small tins back then; I think it was called
Crown Royale or something like that. Heavenly, but I haven't seen it in
years and never in bulk. It was expensive.

I still like Edwards pipes, of which I collected many, but have not bought
one in years. The only Edwards shop I know of in Texas is in Dallas, where
I get my tobacco. I have a number of Peterson's and Peterson Seconds (Irish
Seconds). I actually prefer the seconds for an all day smoke because the
system pipes get gooey after a couple of smokes and need a couple days

Yes, Edwards is a chain of stores. Not as many as there used to be. A
result, I am sure, of the anti-smoking lobby, as are many good
tobacconists. Down here we smokers often are made to feel like lepers for
enjoying a good smoke.

I suppose that is why it is so refreshing to make this connection. Thanks.


Steve, St. John Lutheran Church, Port Arthur, Texas
 5:42 pm  Wed, May 17, 1995

[ Welcome, Steve, and smoke in peace! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (Ehud Yaniv)

Hi, Steve.

[ Administrativa deleted. -S. ]

Yours, Ehud.

PS:  The City of Vancouver B. C. is planning to set a by-law that will
prevent smoking in all public buildings.  Their avowed goal is to have 14
municipalities also pass the same resolution so that city business will not
suffers.  And you thought you had it tough in the states!  (You can print
this in the list)

[ See Chris's letter above. If I were in one of the suburbs, I'd say
now would be a great time to open a cigar-friendly establishment...
Or better yet, be ready to in case the ordinance passes.
Vancouverites, please write the city government. And vote with your
wallets! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????? (Alberto Bonfiglioli PIPEMAKER)
Subject: St.Louis Conv.

To all smokers:
At St. Louis conv. for the Faboulous  DOOR-PRIZE i have make a personal
Bonfiglioli's Kalabash with sterling hat,how you can see one similar on my
I wait you all at Stouffer Hotel( at airport).
Long life to all smokers
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From: ??????????????? (Jeff Rompala)
Subject: Canadian Excursion

This summer I will be traveling to Glacier National Park in the state
of Montana.  Part of the park goes in to Canada.  While I'm there I
figure it would be excellent to pick up a few Cuban Cigars.  I am very
partial to Cohibas myself.  I was wondering if anyone knew of a place
where I could purchase some (Cohiba or other Cubans.  That is in close
proximity to the park Canadian area??  Any help would be much
appreciated.  Thanks


[ I presume you're going to smoke them in Canada? It'd be illegal to
bring them into the states. (See below.)  Members are advised not to
submit anything to the Digest that they don't want Customs, their mom,
or their Higher Power to see. (1/2 :-) -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????? (Jeff Friedman)
Subject: Dunhill's Stomach-Troubling Blend?

Hello Steve, and thank you for providing PD.

Those who are frequent readers of a.s.c. will know me as a Davidoff shill 
and all-around hack, but I have a darker side...

I'm also an undercover Customs agent!


I smoke a _very_ infrequent pipe.  Literally, less than once a month.  I 
enjoy it, and it does a nice job of masking the cigar smoke, but I prefer 
stogies.  Nonetheless, I do have a question or two:

1) Regarding the letter a few issues back from Jacco van Muiswinkel, who 
complained about Dunhill Early Morning making him sick.  I used to smoke a 
pipe much more frequently 3-4 years ago.  I just smoked aromatics, nothing 
fancy.  On a trip to Europe, however, I stopped at Dunhill's in London and 
picked up their sampler pack of 5-6 tins, including Early Morning.  I tried 
all the tins, and at least 3 or 4 made me quite nauseous.  Was my 
experience, as Jacco's, just a result of inexperience, or is there something 
more to it.  I am allergic to nuts, but I don't see how that would
factor in.... 

2) My two pipes (used to be three) were given to me by my grandfather, who 
has been smoking pipes for 50+ years.  They are "Parker" pipes (a 
"Tanglewood" and an "Avondale"); he says they he bought them at Dunhill's, 
but doesn't know any more.  Anyone know anything about the provenance of these?

Many, many thanks.

It's hard as heck to type when you're holding a cigar.

[ Hey, I already did the April 1 issue two months ago! :-) -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (Antonio A. Prado)
Subject: Smoking and Gastritis

Recently I went to my doctor for stomach trouble, a suspected ulcer, and
her initial advice was to stay away from Coca Cola, coffee (decaf or not),
high-acid foods and strong teas as well as alcohol. Plus some heavy anticid
to quell those churning moments. She knows I smoke pipes and cigars and she
suggested I stay away from those for three weeks.

Anyone ever get an upset stomach from smoking? I don't think I ever have.
Because we don't inhale does some of that make it down the other pipe to
the stomach? Just wondering. I'm following her advice because I don't think
I'll get a stomach transplant anytime soon, but I'm puzzled just by that
part of the advice. I wonder if she was just trying to curb my smoking?

Antonio A. Prado - ????????????????
The Bond Buyer
National Daily Newspaper of Government Finance
Western Bureau - Los Angeles, California

(Speaking only for myself.)

"It's all my fault ... I'm with the media"

[ You're not alone.  Latakia seems to give a lot of people, myself
included, some trouble.  Unconscious inhaling, or juice, might also be
the culprit. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????? (Ricard Pardell Vilella,BCN)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #189 - May 13, 1995


I send you the address of Gimeno, the best pipe shop in Barcelona. This may
be helpful to any puffer visiting the city. They have an amazing variety of
pipes and pipe accesories, but they don*t sell tobacco. Actually, there is
another good shop also named Gimeno in "Les Rambles", a very well known
boulevard. This shop sells both pipes and tobacco, but has a lesser range of
pipes avilable. Both shops were part of a common business years ago, and it
seems that the old owner split his legacy between his sons when he died. Here
is the adress of the first shop, because I don*t know wich is the precise
addres of the second one:

                     Gimeno, Hogar del Fumador
                     Paseo de Gracia, 101
                     08008 Barcelona

                     Telephone: +34 3 237 20 78

Anybody interested should ask for Elena, the lady responsible for the pipe

Besides this, to buy tobacco is quite easy in my country. We have a
governement owned monopoly for tobacco distribution that licenses many shops
to sell tobacco products. Those shops are generically called "estancos". You
will find available an acceptable range of pipe tobacco brands in any of
those "estancos" (in Spain scandinavian and dutch mixtures are preferred
rather than english ones). If you don't find what you want, then ask the
tobacconist to look in his catalog, and if it's there it will be available
the next day. But if your best loved tobacco is not in the catallog then just
forget it, because this means that this product is not being distributed by
the spanish monopoly.

That's all the help I can give. If I find any other good shops I will tell
you. Thanks for keeping the digest and good luck !

Ricard Pardell, from Barcelona.

[ Thank you for the reference, Richard, and the report from Spain! -S. ]

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #190 - May 22, 1995
  2. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request
  3. Subject: Early Morning Pipe
  4. Subject: Cubans
  5. Subject: Water pipes
  6. Subject: Alfred Baier, pipemaker
  7. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #189 - May 13, 1995
  8. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest
  9. Subject: Underage Smokers
  10. Subject: Hello, everybody!!!
  11. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request
  12. Subject: Countdown started/Pipestone info.
  13. Subject: L'art de Fumer la pipe
  14. Subject: Tamping While Driving
  15. Subject: Re: #1(3) Pipes Digest #188 -...
  16. Subject: When a Stogie becomes a Cigar...Reprint from Toronto Star
  17. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #189 - May 13, 1995
  18. Subject: I'm in Cigar Aficianado!
  19. Subject: [Cigar] An Introductory Cig
  20. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #189 - May 13, 1995
  21. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #189 - May 13, 1995
  22. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #189 - May 13, 1995
  23. Subject: MANY THANKS!
  24. Subject: St.Louis Conv.
  25. Subject: Canadian Excursion
  26. Subject: Dunhill's Stomach-Troubling Blend?
  27. Subject: Smoking and Gastritis
  28. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #189 - May 13, 1995
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