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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest #192 - June 13, 1995

		  Pipes Digest #192 - June 13, 1995
	     Copyright (C) 1995 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 1194

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[PIPE] Just got a mailing from Mr. Clive Humm of The Pipe Club of
London (9 Frances Street, Chesham Buckinghamshire HP5 3EQ ENGLAND;
phone 01494 771159), which seems to have a very worthwhile and active
group. Says Mr. Humm: "Our name is damn silly, because the club has
grown a little bit since the early days -- we now have hundreds of
members all over the world, from Brazil to Taiwan! ... Naturally, we
have some U.S. members -- but come on guys, the more the merrier!"
Sounds like a worthwhile group, for Digest members in the UK and

And I hope the members will forgive me for not getting an issue out in
two weeks; things have been busy here, with a trip to sunny Florida,
house painting, etc.  But now, whether you're at home like me or on
the road like Charlie Jewell, relax, light up, and we'll try to bring
you up to date...

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             Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
                        Call -- Write -- Vote
                        Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: "John P. Giunta" <????????????????????>
Subject:       Re: Pipes Digest #191 - May 31, 1995

Hello Steve and all readers of Pipes Digest:

I am enjoying the digest and thought I would contribute some 
thoughts.  I do not intend for my opinions to offend any readers.  
After all, the peace of smoking a pipe is one of a number of reasons 
to smoke, and I wish to promote, not discourage pipe smoking.

I don't smoke my pipes every day, and I sometimes let more than a 
week go by without smoking.  The idea that smoking a pipe might ever 
become a habit is repugnant to me.  I like moderation.  I never smoke 
if I am irritated or stressed out.  Smoking a pipe for me is a treat 
that is for when I am already relaxed and interested in playing with 
the smoke, not using the smoke to make me relax.  I do not inhale my 
tobacco's smoke.  I feel that inhaling smoke from any tobacco 
smoking medium is completely unnecessary and dangerous.  

Of course, nicotine is absorbed through the tissues of the tongue and 
the mouth in general and the blood stream will carry it around the 
rest of the body, but the damage to the lung tissue is avoided by not 
inhaling smoke.

This is a moderate view that, in my opinion, most cigarette smokers 
miss out on.  Let me state once again that my views are not 
directed in judgement of smokers of cigarettes, but to the spirit 
of addiction that _cigarette manufacturers_ cultivate.  The 
manufacturers of cigarettes have a business based on addiction to, 
not necessarily enjoyment of, tobacco.  They hope all people in the 
world will smoke and increase their use of cigarettes, and never 
stop.  The modern factory rolled cigarette is made for rapid 
consumption and for easy disposal of the carcass.  

The cultivation of patience as an attribute of smokers in the 
recruiting smokers is considered contrary to the sales of cigarettes. 
Cigarette manufactures want you to want their product NOW, not care 
what is in the product, use a lot of it, and never stop.  I believe 
that this aesthetic of rushing to get a cigarette prevents 
the enjoyment of tobacco.  The beauty of _choosing_--making the day's 
choice of the smoking instrument, choosing the tobacco for the 
instrument, choosing the place to smoke, choosing the tobacco to 
smoke--these choices are missing for most cigarette smokers. 

The evidence is that most cigarette smokers cannot tell you what kind 
of tobacco is in their cigarettes or where it comes from.  This is a 
very sad condition for which I believe there is no cure except 
through reducation.

We as a people must be willing to see smoking not as an evil to be 
avoided, but as a pleasure to be reconsidered in the light of peace 
and generosity, not tension and greed.

Of course there are some cigarette smokers who are able to be 
moderate in their enjoyment, but not many because of the greed of 
cigarette manufacturers and the trusting nature of smokers.

Now on to some ideas which I hope will show my support of pipe 
smoking.  I smoke nine of my dozen or so pipes.  My favorite smoke is 
Balkan Sobranie standard mixture in my calabash with the meerschaum 
bowl.  I also like Three Nuns and some of the cavendish mixtures from 
Georgetown Tobacco and the Centennial mixture from Milan Brothers in 
Roanoke, Virginia.

It took me a while to learn the rate at which to draw smoke so as to 
avoid getting too juicy or hot.  The cultivation of patience, again 
is one of the joys of smoking a pipe.

Wishing you all peace,

John Peter Giunta, B.M., M.A.
117 Moore Avenue, S.W.
Vienna, Virginia 22180-5968
(703) 281-5498

"To talk in public, to think in solitude, to read and to hear, to 
inquire and to answer inquiries, that is the business of a scholar."
                       --Samuel Johnson

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: question

Steve - got a question - when I take trips for several days or even
weeks I would like to take cigars with me - how do I keep them fresh??
I really don't want to take my humidor - what do you suggest.  Are
there small humidors out there - travel ones that will keep the cigars
secure??  Thanks, Jack

[ There are pocket cigar cases, and travel humidors available; I think
CA did an article on them a few issues back. Of course, there are
aalways Tupperdors... -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: "Pipe Friendly" used pipe summary

Dear PD readers:  I've been a pipe smoker since '61 and an
enthusiast/hobbyist/pipe seller since '77.  Currently, I'm proprietor of a
tobacco shop in S.F., and as such would have been content to sit on the
sidelines and smile as I read each edition of PD, to which I just subscribed
(it was cheap enough).  However, a recent occurrence in the heart of our
hobby compels me to not only introduce myself, but to inflict my opinions on
the readership.
     In Joel Farr's new magazine, "Pipe Friendly," is a summary of the used
pipe (we in the business prefer the euphimistic "Estate Pipe") market by PCI
(Pipe Collectors International) owner Jack Ehrmantraut.  Jack sells used
pipes via a popular mailer and thus has some insight to that market.  He also
exhibits the same types of biases,  aberrant perceptions and miscalculations
as do the rest of us.  Unfortunately, some of those egregious flaws surfaced
in what I consider to be a most irresponsible manner in his pipe summary as
printed by "Pipe Friendly".  And before the less experienced readership of PD
take Jack's (or anybody's...except mine, of course) musings as gospel,
certain dubious assertions  need to be addressed by a third party.  
     The boldest error (in many people's opinion, believe me) was Jack's
advice to "avoid" pipes made by Larry Roush.  You'd have no trouble doing
that in my shop because we're all sold out of Roush pipes and are eagerly
awaiting any more that Larry cares to grace us with.  And any used Roush
pipes that, on the rare occasion, become available are immediately scarfed by
our knowing clientele.  In short, no astute observation of the U.S. pipe
scene could come to the conclusion that Roush pipes are anything but
     When asked by Steve Richman (owner of The Piedmont Tobacconist and
importer of Esoterica Tobacciana tobaccos) how he could make such an
inflammatory statement about Roush pipes, Jack  admitted that he's never
smoked a Roush pipe.  He said that his summary doesn't address the smoking
and production values of a pipe, simply it's collectible and resale value as
he sees it.   
Steve's immediate response to that disingenuous statement was "I'll take all
those slow selling Roush's you have lying around off your hands."  No comment
     Another proper response to Jack's assertion would have been, "since when
is a pipe merchant equipped to offer investment advice instead of smoking
advice."  Any pipe purchaser who buys pipes for investment instead of smoking
is a sucker and deserves to be taken.  And any tobacconist that sells his
wares as a good investment is a charlatan (pre-Lane). 
     Talking about Charatans, more investment advice from this tobacco
merchant came in the form of advice to avoid Charatans below Distinction
grade because those low end Charatans should "only be purchased for smoking."
 Say What?  What the hell are we about?  I thought finding and sharing info
on good smokes was our main focus.  For investment advice I feel much more
comfortable being screwed by my Merrill Lynch counselor.  
     Another very, very questionable tidbit of investment advice was offered
freely (and well worth the cost) in his suggestion to Mike Butera that he
"needs to produce some pipes or collector demand will wane."  Not from people
who want a piece of art that smokes great will interest wane.  
     Re-reading Jack's summary, I see very little factual info and a lot of
personal opinion.  There's nothing wrong with personal opinion...but in an
area as metaphysical and subjective as pipes, opinion shouldn't be offered as
fact.  And in a hobby as small and precarious and vulnerable as ours,
restraint should be applied by a person in position to damage the reputation
of hard working, honest, devoted and highly skilled craftsmen.  
     Since Jack, probably by his own admission, is not a man of subtlety,
diplomacy or tact, he can't be expected not to voice his own opinion, and his
straight ahead style might be much appreciated by his customers, the readers
of the PCI Newsletter, wherein the summary first appeared.  That, after all,
is Jack's personal organ and a good place for him to vent those opinions.  I
like receiving the newsletter and hope to continue to receive it.
     But publishing rash opinions as fact in a general circulation mag
demands attention to responsibility.  Had Jack reflected on the hurt his
opinions (or observations) can create in the hobby he might have  tempered
his language.   
     The publisher of "Pipe Friendly," Joel Farr, is an absolute novice in
the world of used/collectible pipes, else he might have exercised some
editorial restraint in publishing these already once used articles in his
maiden issue.  Joel is, however, educable and enthusiastic and needs to be
applauded for his effort.  The magazine needs to be supported by our kind and
I have subscribed.
     To pound the death out of the central theme here, please defer to your
own opinion and personal experience on your likes and dislikes.
There are no authorities when it comes your taste except yourself.

[ I can see this will generate some controversy... -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????? (Alberto Bonfiglioli PIPEMAKER)
Subject: Back in Italy from St.Louis Conv.

Hello (CIAO) Smokers
After 10 years i'm back in St.Louis Conv. (1985 has been my first P.C.I.)
and i want to say, in that time i saw much more collectors, tobacconists and
wholesalers. Anyway has been nice to see again old friends as Frank
Burla,Bob Hamlin,Jay Milton,Joe Giardina,Chuk Rio,Nikos Levin (we did playng
to ping pong in Chicago time ago) Michael Resckke,Mike Butera,Thomas
Cristiano,Philip Everberg,Marty Pulvers,Roy Fazalare,Feathers Thompson,
Family Bromley(i'm sorry if ihave missed someone),
I hope to see us next year.
Viva la pipa.
Alberto Bonfiglioli Pipemaker from downtown Bologna Italy.

P.S. : The Bonfiglioli' Pipe on door-prize has been won by Mr Randy Elder
>From St. Ann Mo.
Now I will make the pipes request me on internet.
* "LA BONFIGLIOLI" BOLOGNA Di Bonfiglioli Alberto - Smoking Pipe Maker*
* Show Room - Laboratory in : Via Bertiera 8/a - 40126 BOLOGNA (Italy)*
* tel +39 -51 231771                                                  *
* E-Mail                  ???????????????????????????                 *
* For my WWW homepage     http://www.italia.com/bonfiglioli           *

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes--Testing Before You Buy

Steve, regarding the letter from Karl Leeds in #191 about wanting to feel
the pipe in his mouth before buying, I think he was treated rather
shabbily by the pipe store salesman.  I worked part time at Barclay Pipe
and Tobacco in Columbus for several years, and we did everything possible
to make our customers happy, especialy first-time pipe buyers.
Granted, you can't let people put pipes in their mouths and perhaps mark
them, and most buyers are satisfied just to hold the pipe.  However, for
those who weren't, we carried a large supply of the thick rubber-band type
things (they were like 3 for a quarter) that many pipe smokers who tend to
chew up their bits use on all their pipes.  If somebody wanted to test a
pipe in the mouth, we would give them one of these things and let them
test away.  If your pipe shop doesn't carry them, find one that does and
carry one with you whenever you think you might buy a pipe.  I can't
imagine anyone refusing to let you use it to hold a pipe in your mouth.

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

[ Quite a few of our readers have made this comment, Bill. I hope the
word gets back to Connoisseur. And see Karl's letter later in this
issue.  -S. ]

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From: "??????????????????" <???????????????????>
Subject:       Intro

Thanks for including me in your digest! As suggested, I'm writing a 
brief introduction:

I'm a 26 year-old cigar smoker who is about to make a move to pipes. 
I currently smoke a variety of cigars, being in a cigar o' the week 
club at my local shoppe, and have come to prefer Thomas Hinds and 
La Uncia - feedback about other brands with similar qualities will be 

I purchased my first pipe just yesterday from Andrea's in Kenosha - I 
highly reccomend the shop for both cigar and pipe needs. Mr. Andrea 
himself assisted me in chosing a pipe, tobak and tamper. He patiently 
explained how pipes are made, showed me a half-finished bowl given to 
him by Mr. Savinelli (but maybe knowledgeable old tobbacconists like 
to pull the legs of young non-knowledgeable smokers) and explained 
the care and feeding of my new pipe.  

If you are get to southeastern Wisconsin, the shop is Andrea's and is 
located at 60th Street and 24th Ave. I beleive they do mail order, 
I'll try to remember to post the address/phone in the near future.

Sorry for rambling (now I understand why the digests are so long!) 
and, I believe this is understood, edit at will! 

R.A. Dawson
College of Lake County
Grayslake, Il  60030

"Let the truth of love be lighted,
Let the love of truth shine clear"
                            - NP

[ Thanks for the word on Andrea's! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Comfortable Pipe Fit!?

Hi Steve:

One of your subscribers wrote about trying to try a pipe out for fit and

>I asked Ed if I would be permitted to
>place the pipe in my mouth. He flatly said NO due to "my safety and that of
>his other customers". I told him that I wanted to see how it felt. His
>response was "Would I make a bit that was not comfortable?" Is it common not
>to allow a customer the option of seeing how a pipe feels prior to it's
>purchase? He barely allowed me to hold it and look at it.

I would suggest that he inform his tobacconist of his displeasure in the way
he handles customers. It sounds like the tobacconist has a flippant attitude
that will eventually drive business away! A "comfortable bit for him" may not
be comfortable to me. In small shops we have to understand that the people
running the business often times have a lot of things that need to get done
business wise, and this might not allow a lot of time to BS with a customer.
However... if I'm buying, I want your undivided attention, hoe do you know
I'm not going to turn around and buy that $600.00 Tsuge? All-in-all, a
tobocconist should allow you to handle a pipe as much as you need to in order
to find flaws such as sand pits, fills, scratches, etc. As far as trying the
pipe out for fit... any good tobacconist will have "pipe prophylactics,"
small plastic or cellophane sleeves that fit over the pipe stem. These are
provided so that a customer can "see" what the pipe looks like when held to
the face. It is not intended for a person to chomp down on the bit though!
That would not be proper! Again... it's just to slip the pipe in the mouth
while holding it to get a good look. As a matter of fact, a good tobacconist
will have a counter top mirror similar to one found in jewlery or eyeglass
stores just so that you can take a look.

I carry a few "pipe prophylactics" in my wallet : ) ; ) because you never
know when you'll drop by your tobbaconist and see that pipe you can't live
without! If a tobacconist doesn't have these pipe sleeves, you can make one.
Buy a small ring gauge cigar from the tobacconist (he'll/she'll like that,)
remove the cigar and then cut about an inch from the top of the cellophane
wrapper down... now you have a custom made "pipe prophylactic" to slip over
the pipe bit!

Just my two cents.
Steven Banks

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes: Smoking and Driving

Steve, I'm slowly reading back issues, and I recently got the discussion
of how do you tamp your pipe, etc. while driving.  I think we should all be
aware of the hazards of smoking while driving--not paying attention to the
road ahead of or behind you while fiddling with your pipe, dropping the
whole pipe or hot ashes into your lap and having a lit object near if an
accident occurs and gasoline is spilled.  Well, here's a new one.  An OPC
member has drawn my attention to and provided me with a copy of an article
called "Airbag Deployment and Eye Perforation by a Tobacco Pipe" in Vol.
38, No. 4, pp. 498-501 of _The Journal of Trauma: Injury, Infection, and
Critical Care._
The 51-year-old driver of a BMW 750 skidded on a patch of ice and struck a
guard rail, deploying his airbag.  The driver was apparently holding his
pipe in his hand (his teeth were undamaged).  The airbag forced the bowl
of the pipe along his face, producing abrasions and slight burns.  The bit
and part of the stem snapped off and were driven into his eye, which could
not be saved.  Enough said, I think.

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

[ Gruesome, Bill... although IMHO this counts as a freak accident,
it'd probably be safer to smoke a cigar if you have airbags... But
wasn't there once a small hose pipe with magnets, specially made for
smoking while driving?  One would clamp it to the dashboard and puff
away in safety. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: World No-Smoking Day

Hello to all,

   As some of you may have heard, the World Health Organization decreed 
that there was to be a World No-Tobacco Day I supose it was either to 
save us from ourselves, or an attempt to put many of the farmers in North 
Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee and other such states out of business.  I 
hope that some of my experiences on that fateful day may be of a brief 
respite in an otherwise ordinary day.
   Okay, I usually smoke only 2-3 bowlfuls a day, those being in the 
afternoon/evening.  Upon hearing on the radio from some Treehugger that 
tobacco in all forms is bad, evil, etc.  I lit up.  So I don't offend the 
wrong people, my definition of Treehugger is a person that tries to tell 
me how to live my own life, with an obvious exception being a doctor.
   Suffice it to say, I enjoyed a bowl with several friends during every 
break that we could conjure, much to the dismay of the WHO.  Now, usually 
I smoke my pipe in a quite place, shade preferrable, and people usually 
walk by and say, "Hey, that smells good."  Not this day.  I did pick my 
usual out of the way spot, but I was confronted angrilly a number of 
times by people that I feel have no business telling me what to do.
   I am not usually a combative person, prefering just to listen to the 
tirades of others, catalogue their thoughts and walk calmly away.  Well, 
this being an out of sorts day, I had the chance to blow smoke in a 
person's face.  Not really my fault, she was practically nose to pipe 
with me, and I had to breath.
   I did manage to mak it to the tobacco store in the afternoon to find 
it packed with people of a similar mind as my own.  A fairly large group 
of us sat on a bench outside the store and produced such a pile of ash 
that I've never seen!  What a day!
   I almost thank the good old World Health Organization for providing me 
with such an eventful (and mostly enjoyable) day.
   Did anyone else experince the blind stupidity of others or was I the 
only one?

Thanks for reading my rantings,

[ Well, Shawn, I personally think that the term "treehugger" is a bit
perjorative; one can love both trees and tobaccco. In any case, I'd
like to know when the WHO is going to stage this, so we can organize
our own World Smoke-In for Freedom, or Know Tobacco Day.  Better names
welcome... -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: "Second-hand smoke" info needed

Dear Guys:

I am currently writing an article on the moral/ethical dimensions of pipe
smoking, but I need a source of information on "second-hand smoke" since this
is at the heart of the current campaign to ban smoking in any and all public

Can anyone recommend a way to get a survey of the evidence on this issue,
preferably in electronic form? (In fact, if anyone already has one and would
like to e-mail it to me, I'd be *most* appreciative).

Thanks a lot, and I'll upload the article to Pipes Digest when its finished.

Smoke in peace!

--James Akin (?????????????????)

P.S. I live in San Diego, and I'd love to get together for a few beers with
any subscribers here in So-Cal. I know a great Irish pub where pipe-smoking
is *definitely* allowed. :-)  [In fact, the last time I was in there I was
with a pipe-smoking friend of mine and a third pipe-smoker came in, prompting
the Irish folk musician to jovially announce, "Welcome to 'pipe-night' here
at the Blarney Stone" :-) ]

[ Do you have the Bliley Report? If not, let me know and I'll mail it
to you. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: #4(4) Pipes Digest #191 - May 31, 1995

Just to let people know..
My favorite smoking blends are:
Cappucino(kind of chocolately)
Amaretto(tastes just like it)
Black Coffee(coffee & chocolately)
Judge's Mixture(Sweet & Sour, but smoky)

Manufactured for David P.Ehrlich,
32 Tremont St.,Boston,MA.02108.

But sold at:Leavitt & Pierce,
1316 Massachusetts Ave.,
Tel ., # (617)547-0576

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Greetings, Everyone

I'm a 28 year old graduate student who's been smoking cigars since a 1992
Christmas trip to London. I was a Peace Corps Volunteer in Albania when a
friend of mine got me interested in Cuban cigars. Therefore, while I was on
the trip, I purchased a Montecristo No. 2 and sat down with a pint of bitter
in the Salisbury, a pub near Trafalgar Square. I enjoyed it immensely. After
that, I used every trip out of the country as a chance to try more Cubans. I
also got into pipes, mainly because the Albanians produce a number of fine
hand-carved briar woods, none of which cost more than five dollars. I'm
little more than a casual pipe smoker, but I do enjoy an occasional bowl. 

In the No-Smoking section war I consider myself a conscientious objector. I
don't mind not being able to smoke in my favorite restaurants. I usually
prefer to spread out on the grass in the park with a nice Churchill or sit at
home with a good book. I do, however, despise cigarette smokers who think
their cig doesn't stink. I recently went into a bar and was met by bluish
smoke to my knees, but when I lit up--on the veranda no less--I earned sharp
glares and a "P. U." from a group of chain-smoking menthol-mouths at a
nearby, upwind table. I just smiled and enjoyed my Arturo Fuente. 

I'm also pleased to say I introduced my last girlfriend to cigars. After
hanging around me a couple months, she developed a taste for Dunhill
Condados. We even did our own two-person smokers' night in the lobby of the
Peabody Hotel in Memphis. (Which, incidentally, is cigar friendly, even in
some of the rooms.) We dressed up in our Sunday-best and were eventually
joined by another cigar smoking couple who were encouraged to light up after
they saw us. She and I are no longer together, but she still smokes cigars.

Anyway, I'm looking for other Kansas smokers, and for some Mississippi
smokers. (I'm currently in Kansas, but I'm a graduate student at the
University of Mississippi.) I'm especially interested in tobacconists in
Wichita or Topeka. If anyone knows of any, please drop me a line. I've
enjoyed PD so far, and hope it keeps going long and strong.

Yours sincerely,

Dwayne "DL" Lively
Salina, Kansas 

[ That's not the first comment I've heard bout cigarette vs. cigar
smokers;  we are, of course, all in this together. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????? (Paul J. Ste. Marie)
Subject: American Spirit

>4. Cigarretes seem to have a bad name around here but I've been
>handrolling them lately with Three Castles or American Spirit (pure
>VA) tobacco and they're as tasty as any pipe that way.  I notice
>American Spirit is selling manufactured cigarettes with their natural
>tobacco now, but they're filters which I tend not to like so well.  I
>tried rolling with an aromatic pipe tobacco but that was a bit much.
>The RB/Cherry blend almost worked, maybe an American Spirit & Cherry
>would really work.

American Spirit also makes straights, but I find that their tobacco lacks 
the flavor of Threee Castles.  Stokebye (spelling?) also makes a fine cut 
aromatic with a pistachio and vanilla casing that works well for hand-rolling.

        --Paul J. Ste. Marie, ??????????????????????, ???????????????????

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From: ??????????????????? (Paul J. Ste. Marie)
Subject: Re: Calabash and Meerschaum questions

Is it a porcelain bowl in that calabash or a meerschaum one?  At any rate, 
you might give Ron Houck at the Wharf in Beavercreek, OH a call at 
(513)426-0633.  He's done excellent work for me in the past on meerschaums 
of various sorts.

        --Paul J. Ste. Marie, ??????????????????????, ???????????????????

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Re: #1(4) Pipes Digest #191 -...

Thanks to all who identify their articles starting with  "PIPES" or "CIGAR"
for those of us with unfortunate time constraints.

[ Hear, hear! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????? (John Paine)
Subject: Pipes stores in Paris, corrected

Steve:  Sorry about the characters.  Here we go again.

Au Caid
24, boulevard Saint-Michel
75006 PARIS

A la Civette--just across from the Palais Royal on the rue St. Honore:
upscale, interesting store with variety of pipes, (Havana) cigars, tobacco,
lighters, paraphernalia.

[ Thanks for the clarification! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Pipe Friendly Followup


   A bit of followup for your readers.

   The second issue of PIPE FRIENDLY will go to press in early July. I've
gotten a good response from readers and advertisers so far, and I'm hopefull
that PF will be a long term project.

   If your readers got PF #1 and would like to get future issues, I have to
have the subscription info & $$ by 7/1.  If they are late, there is a very
real risk that the mailing list will be set and their subscription will have
to start with issue #3.

   Thanks for your efforts and good work.

   J. Farr

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Old pipe tobacco wanted

Fellow cyber-pipers: I have a pipe collector friend to whom I owe a huge
favor and would like to obtain some old, properly stored and aged pipe
tobacco. His tastes run towards the heavier English blends and I know that
some of his favorites are older issues of: After Hours, Crown Achievement,
Balkan Sobranie, etc. Please let me know where I can find something
appropriate. Regards,....Rex.

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From: ???????????????? (Ed Berggren)
Subject: [PIPES]

Hello, Steve!

Just some miscellaneous ruminations:

First of all, I was quite surprised to read Karl Leeds' (?????????????????)
note in the last Digest regarding his inability to try out a particular
pipe (hold it in his mouth) to see how it felt.  Every pipe shop that I've
ever been to around here keeps a supply of "pipe slips" on hand which are
essentially little tiny plastic bags that slip over the bit to allow a
customer to hold the pipe in his/her mouth while protecting the bit from
saliva and teeth marks (of course, it's only common courtesy to refrain
from chomping down with all one's might).  It's been common for me to use a
pipe slip to try out three or four pipes (usually in front of a mirror)
before making my final selection.

My most recent pipe purchase was a pipe carved by hand by local craftsman,
Paul Peri.  Two weeks ago I attended my first meeting of the Southwest Pipe
and Cigar League (having heard about it from the pages of the Digest), and
Paul was on hand displaying a dozen or so pipes that he recently carved.
Most were very large--larger, in fact, than I normally prefer, but one was
just my size.  It's in a Dublin shape with a straight stem, and what a
delightful pipe it is!  And what a bargain!!  It's lightweight with very
nice grain; it smokes cool and stays lit.  My main problem is a tendency to
want to smoke it all the time without giving it a chance to rest (but I
force myself--I don't want to risk ruining it).  I'm already saving up to
buy another one.

Three or four weeks back I bought a tin of Escudo tobacco primarily because
I've read so many good things about it here in the Digest.  This was my
first experience with tobacco that came in slices instead of ready rubbed
and initially I had trouble rubbing it out consistently--one time it would
smoke well, the next time I could hardly keep it lit.  So I finally took a
kitchen knife to it, chopping it up to an even consistency.  Since then
things have gone much more smoothly.  I must say I do like it--it's quite
unlike anything else I've ever smoked.  However, I'm not yet sure that I
like it $8.30 per 50 grams worth.  I'm about half-way through the tin, so
I'll reserve final judgement until the last bowl.

Finally, a quote I picked up recently taken from Charles Lamb's "A Farewell
to Tobacco":
   For you, Tobacco, I
   Would do anything but die.

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From: Michael Bywater <??????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #191 - May 31, 1995


In Digest 191, Karl Leeds (????????????????) talked about not being able to
hold a pipe in his mouth at the shop to try it for balance.

The hygeine point is valid. But to buy a pipe without testing it for
weight, heft and -- let's be honest -- appearance is about as sensible as
buying a jacket without trying it on.  ("Would I sell you a jacket which
didn't fit, Sir?")

Which is why, in my experience, every halfway-decent pipe shop has little
disposable plastic sleeves to slip over the bit when a customer wants to
try a pipe.

It might be worth Karl recommending these to Ed at Conoisseur.

--Michael Bywater

Michael Bywater <??????????????????????> * London WC1

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From: ?????????????????? (John Y. Liu)
Subject: Self-Introduction

I'd like to introduce myself to the rest of you on this mailing list.  
Having smoked cigarettes (usually Marlboro, with the occasional Dunhill) at 
a moderate pace for about 15 years, I recently switched to a pipe at the 
advice of a retired painting restorer from England who was living in the 
small New England town of Essex, by the Atlantic.  I was in Essex on holiday 
and waiting for my wife at the pub in the Griswold Inn (the oldest 
continuously operating inn in the United States, by the way) and had noticed 
Jeff puffing reflectively on his pipe while pulling intermittently on a 
fresh pint of Guiness.  I had done without a cigarette for the better part 
of a week, as my wife objects quite strenuously to my smoking cigarettes in 
her presence, and no doubt my first thought was that it was too bad this 
fellow had no cigarettes that I could quickly light up, but perhaps I should 
stroll over and say hello anway.  After we met and exchanged our views about 
nuclear terrorism, the national economy,  the O.J. trial and so forth, the 
talk turned to important subjects and Jeff told me that I could probably 
quit smoking cigarettes by taking up a pipe, that I would like it much 
better, and that my wife would doubtless feel the same way as, in his 
experience, many women who wrinkled their noses at cigarettes were attracted 
to the aroma of a pipe.  We discussed why this was, and I recall some 
theories about the daddies who smoked pipes and the whole thing was getting 
vaguely Freudian when my wife walked in.  First she gave me that searching 
look that sweeps over every finger and any nearby ashtray for signs of a 
burning cigarette or a hastily extinguished butt.  Then she approached and, 
I assume, was preparing to give me the accusatory contraband-sniffing test, 
when she suddenly saw, or smelled, Jeff and his pipe.  My wife veered toward 
him, sparing me a public bloodhounding, and, through a beatific smile, she 
said to me "John, I think you should start smoking a pipe".  As always, I 
did her bidding.

This was about a month ago, and I now smoke a Peterson No. 303 purchased in 
Boston, which was the next stop in that vacation trip.  I have not smoked, 
nor particularly desired, a cigarette since, and in a recent kayaking trip 
off the Baja coast when we were all cold and wet I learned that a warm pipe 
is considerably more comforting than a soggy cigarette.  My interests, at 
this point, are learning more about pipes and pipe tobaccos, locating an 
upcoming  pipe show (are there such things?) in the Los Angeles area, and 
locating a good tobacconist in or near the Glendale/Pasadena area.  To the 
extent such things can be answered by the FAQ and Resource Guide, I will 
inquire there in the near future.

Nice to meet you all, and I look forward to participating in this mailing list.

[ A wonderful anecdote, John! Welcome! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Holt's Cigar Store


I recently was in Philadelphia and had an opportunity to stop into Holt's new
cigar store on Walnut Street.  The store is very upscale with a posh smoking
room trimmed in leather and expensive wood paneling.  The store itself has a
good selection of premium and super premium cigars.  I took the occasion to
treat myself to an Avo Pyramid and enjoyed it in their smoking room.  They
have a cappuccino machine (that was not working at the time) and lockers for
those who want a place to store their smokes.  The walls were lined with
displays of high end humidors.  In all it was a very enjoyable experience to
relax in a friendly environment with a fine cigar.

I have had the pleasure of visiting Bloom Cigar Company in Pittsburgh.  The
smoking room at Bloom's is more reminiscent of a college fraternity room both
in atmosphere and in furnishings.  At Bloom's the patrons were all engaged in
lively discussion and I almost felt as though I was at the gentlemens'
gathering place, like the corner drug store or diner, of a small town. 

The contrast between Holt's and Bloom's was dramatic in that Holt's was more
of a quiet sanctuary with a focus on cigars and smoking while Bloom's was
more of a local watering hole with a focus on fellowship and good fun.

If any of the PD readers are in the Pittsburgh or Philadelphia I would urge
them to visit these establishments.

Steve Messinger

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Salutations and Introduction

Well, I finally have a moment to submit my introduction.  First, though, let
me offer my thanks for the reading enjoyment and information I've gotten from
the issues I've been Emailed and downloaded from the FTP site (makes a fairly
sizeable volume in hard copy!).

I'm a 40+ year older and I make my living as an electrical engineer at a firm
in Huntsville, Alabama.  At night I transform into a graduate student in
counseling psychology.

I first smoked a pipe over 20 years ago and, for reasons I can't recall, put
my limited collection away in storage until earlier this year.  At work, a
friend of mine (and a fellow subscriber to this mail list ----- Hi Fritz!)
has a habit of enjoying a Friday afternoon bowl of tobacco (or a cigar).
  Well, being around that wonderful aroma awakened the urge in me, so I
crawled through the attic to rescue my old pipes.

My preference is for a full bent stem pipe, and I favor sweet aromatic blends
with a vanilla flavor.  I've enjoyed several ounces of a blend called Trade
Winds sold at my local pipe shop (The Humidor - Huntsville, AL) wonderful
vanilla aroma - nice flavorful smoke ----- but a definite tongue scorcher!
 I'll have to experiment with cutting it with something to cool it off.

I am currently breaking in a black full bent sandblasted Chacom and a
freestyle Knute using the honey method (haven't seen this mentioned here,
yet).  I guess the Knute is my favorite pipe at the moment -  feels good in
the hand.  My favorite utilitarian pipe is my first pipe, a straight stemmed
Willard that probably came with a pack of tobacco for a few dollars 20+ years

I am currently obssessed with perusing through antique shops for "estate"
pipes.  I've found a few that I thought looked good and I'll post info here
about them at a later date for feedback on value and collectability.  Any
good hints on restoring these gems to good looking smokeables is appreciated!

This is getting lengthy, even though I've got a million more questions, I'll
stop for now -- one more I've got a Jobey Torino (full bent) that develops a
bad case of "slurpees" before the end of a bowl, any suggestions - different
insert, filter adaptation??????

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From: ???????????????????????????????
Subject: cigar sizes [cigar]

The only response I got to my question about standard cigar sizes came 
{?????????????} who recommended Perelman's Pocket Cyclopedia of Cigars. 
[Thanks JB!]  On my way home from work last night, I stopped by the local 
cigar shop and was pleasantly surprised to find they had several copies 
of it on the shelf.  This year's edition is marked as only $7.95 so I 
picked up a Joya de Nicaragua Presidente as well.  My new purchase tells 
me that this is in the Double Corona group, for those who are interested. 
 When I got home, I found that my latest shipments from both club cigars 
had also arrived.  So there I sat with a bundle of 25 maduros 6 x 60, 
five samples of cigars with a ring gauge of 50, and my Presidente.  Oh 
the agony of a well stocked humidor!

For those of you who, like me, are still curious about the marriage of 
the name and the general size, here's a chart from Perelman's book.  He 
adapted it from Paul Garmirian's The Gourmet Guide to Cigars.  Since an 
experienced tobacconist should be able to provide similar information, I 
hope you will not consider it a violation of the copyright.

Shape                Length Range        Ring Range    Classic
Giant                8 +                 50 +          9 x 52
Double Corona        6.75 - 7.75         49 - 54       7.75 x 49
Churchill            6.75 - 7.875        46 - 48       7 x 47
Pyramid              -----               flared        7 x 36 -> 54
Torpedo              -----               tapered       6.5 x 52
Toro                 5.625 - 6.625       48 - 54       6 x 50
Robusto              4.5 - 5.5           48 - 54       5 x 50
Grand Corona         5.625 - 6.625       45 - 47       6.5 x 46
Corona Extra         4.5 - 5.5           45 - 47       5.5 x 46
Giant Corona         7.5 +               42 - 45       7.5 x 44
Lonsdale             6.5 - 7.25          40 - 44       6.5 x 42
Long Corona          5.875 - 6.375       40 - 44       6 x 42
Corona               5.25 - 5.75         40 - 44       5.5 x 42
Petit Corona         4 - 5               40 - 44       5 x 42
Long Panatela        7 +                 35 - 39       7.5 x 38
Panatela             5.5 - 6.875         35 - 39       6 x 38
Short Panatela       4 - 5.375           35 - 39       5 x 38
Slim Panatela        5 +                 30 - 34       6 x 34
Small Panatela       4 - 5               30 - 34       5 x 33
Cigarillos           6 - less            29 - less     4 x 26

And for those of you who like labels, here's another chart to give the 
general idea on cigar colors.  It, too, comes from Perelman's book but 
should common knowledge.  Never under estimate the knowledge of your 
local retailer!
With 70 colors, they probably have a better idea of where to steer you.

Name            Color
Candela         green, rarely found today
Double Claro    beige to green, also known as American Market Selection 
Claro           a very light tan to beige color, Connecticut
Natural         wide range of browns, aka English Market Selection [EMS]
Colorado Claro  medium brown common to many cigars
Colorado        reddish brown
Colorado Maduro   dark brown
Cameroon        darker brown, often associated w/ Honduras
Maduro          very dark brown, often associated w/ Nicaragua
Oscuro          black

The final bit of general information I'll pass on relates to 

filler          tobacco in the center, making up the bulk of the cigar
binder          leaf which holds the filler together
wrapper         outer covering rolled around the binder

short filler    usually scraps or pieces used in cigar machines
homogenized     blend of tobacco that can w/stand the tension of machines
   wrapper            may produce varying flavors, strengths, or textures
long filler     leaves which run from one end of the cigar to the other
hand rolled     machines bunch long fillers, but bound and wrapped by 
hand wrapped    long filler is rolled, bound, and wrapped by hand
Neil Flatter                 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Chemistry - Math (CMA)       Chemistry Facilities Technician
Novell Supervisor            5500 Wabash Avenue 73
(812) 877 - 8316             Terre Haute, IN 47803-3999
 FAX: 877 - 3198             ???????????????????????

[ Thanks for the summary, Neil! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Pipe Purchase

I would like to thank everyone who was kind enough to provide me with
information regarding my pipe purchase. I did return to the Connoisseur Pipe
Shop to view the pipes again. Upon a very detailed observation, I did
purchase the pipe. That evening, I smoked it three times. After each smoking,
I allowed the pipe to cool completely. After the third smoking, the stem
became horribly loose from the briar. I returned to the Connoisseur the very
next day. The pipe was repaired and returned the same day. I have been
smoking it since, and I am quite happy with my purchase.

Once again, thank you for your assistance.


P.S. I highly recommend the Connoisseur Pipe Shop's "Special Reserve"
tobacco. It's a bit costly at $57.00 per pound, but several ounces are worth
the investment and pleasure :~))

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From: ???????????????? (Antonio A. Prado)
Subject: Santa Clara & California Smoking Laws

In reference to earlier comments about Santa Clara or other California
cities lifting bans on restaurant smoking: As I recall the Legislature
passed an all-encompassing bill banning smoking in all restaurants, except
in bars. In fact, cities and counties were mandated to designate an
enforcement agency for the law. I think it might even apply to charter
cities, because according to a L.A. Fire Department captain I know, his
agency was chosen as the L.A. city enforcer. Now, L.A. is a charter city,
but I'm not sure exactly how much the state can govern over them. The
constitution takes much authority over them away from Sacramento. Now, as
for general law cities and counties, hell, the Legislature could rub them
off the map if it wanted to, and they can certainly govern their policing

For now I don't think we're going to hear the phrare "Smoking or non,"
anytime soon, or ever again, in California. The law as I understand
superceded all local smoking bans.

Antonio A. Prado - ????????????????

 "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition
  from mediocre minds." -- Albert Einstein

[ Of course, they wouldn't do anything so declasse' as to fund their
mandates themselves... -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Update from the road

For those who might be confused about this otherwise, I'm on a cross country
trip and am reporting in on various little pipe related things that I come
across.  I'm also trying to meet PD subscribers, but haven't yet gotta to

5/23 - 5/26 - I've had lot's of trouble getting connected with my email.  It
all started in Las Vegas (a town I was glad to see in the rear view mirror)
when I didn't feel like making the last 7 hour push one night to Tucson, so I
thought, since it had been several days sleeping in the pickup, with no
shower, "I'll splurge and get a hotel tonight.  I'll get a shower, make the
email connection, sleep good and hit it tomorrow."  I spread out all of my
computer stuff, only to find (to my horror) that a critical cable was gone.
 After several hours, which included some real agony at Radio Shack, I was
defeated.  When I got to Tucson, I used my friend's computer to send out some
short messages, including an SOS to my housesitter to Priority Mail my cable!
 To make it short (there were more gory details), I'm back up, but AOL
doesn't have very good DOS software (which I have to use because I've only
got an ancient 286 for portable use), so email is a real bear.  Forgive me if
my updates are less frequent than I had planned.

5/27/95 12:20 pm - Stopped at a "Whataburger" in Tucson and happened to see a
man walking in, smoking a well seasoned Meerschaum.  I stopped him and asked
about his pipe smoking (being the neophyte that I am), and he was good enough
to stop and talk to me, even as his burgers got cold in his "to-go" sack.
 He's been smoking for 25 years, and advised me to get a good quality
Meerschaum, and plan to spend around $100 for a good one.  Also, he smoked
Capt. Black in a white pouch.  Didn't get a chance to find out just which
mixture that would be.  Any hints out there?  He says that the smoke is good,
and doesn't cost too much.  I guess stopping people and just asking them
their preferences might turn out to be a valuable education!

06/05/95 4:03 pm - Stopped at a craft shop along the road, out in the middle
of nowhere, between Payson, Arizona and Show Low.  The shop is called the
"Lazy Hoss Gallery".  I met a one armed man there named Don Anderson.  He was
watching the store and wasn't real busy, being toward the end of the day.  I
stopped in more or less for a driving break.  Coming through Arizona from
Tempe on my way to Denver, Colorado, the mountain roads through the Tonto
National Forest are quite winding.  I noticed that he smoked a pipe and I
started talking with him about it.  He's been smoking a pipe for 49 years.
 He was originally from Maine, and I could hear a strong trace of the accent,
still.  He started smoking a pipe there, when he was about 11 years old.  He
started for various reasons, including the fact that he didn't like the smell
of cigarettes, but also due to his Swedish descent, where it was common for
the old guys to smoke a pipe.  I saw a white Capt. Black tobacco pouch
sitting on the counter, so I asked about it.  He said he's settled on it as
his standard tobacco, but as it turns out, he wasn't actually smoking Capt.
Jack today.  Apparently, he has found that Walgreen's sells a mixture called
Burley and Black that he says tastes just the same to him but at 1/2 the
price.  We talked about a number of subjects; his job as a camp ranger for 20
years for the Boy Scouts, his odd jobs across the country, times that he
travelled the country (like I'm doing), sometimes hopping boxcars.  A very
interesting man.  He had a funny quote.  He worked for a farmer some years
back, and the farmer had run out of work but didn't want to cut him loose.
 The farmer asked him if he'd mind being hired out to go do some rod weeding
in a neighboring wheat field until he came up with more work on his farm.  He
told the farmer, "Sure, it beats sittin' around."  When he met the other
farmer, the neighbor noticed that Don had a pipe in his pocket.  He said to
him, "You know, someone told me once, never to hire a man that smokes a pipe.
 Out of an 8 hour work day, you'll lose an hour while he stops to fiddle with
it."  He got hired anyway :)  I thanked him for the pleasant conversation, he
invited me back to visit again, and I was on my way.

06/05/95 5:32 pm - I'm sitting here at the top of the Mollogon Rim,
overlooking millions of acres of the Tonto Nat'l Forest.  What a site!  It's
quite beautiful.  As I gander, I'm enjoying a pipe of Dunhill 965 that I
found at the Tinderbox when I was in Tucson.  Since my local shop in
Kennewick, Washington doesn't carry it, my visit to the Tinderbox at the El
Con mall was the first chance to get some.  It was $5.20 for a 50 gram tin.
 It was a bear to open!  Any hints out there for my future tin openings?  My
first impressions aren't ecstatic, but enjoyable just the same.  I also got a
three pipe tools because they were only $1.25 and were much nicer (polished,
heavier) than what was available at home).  I'm off now to get closer to
Denver by the evening of 6/6.  More later.
06/05/95 7:31 pm - Not pipe related, but as I was passing through Holbrook,
AZ, my attention was caught, while driving, by the drums and chanting of a
Navajo dance display in the courtyard of a very old courthouse.  It was very
interesting and turned out to be a great diversion.  If you happen to be near
Holbrook, stop in the courthouse/museum.  It's very interesting.  There is an
ancient jail that was used as recently as 1976 that you can walk through,
complete with copious jailhouse graffiti.  Some interesting artwork!  Ended
up sleeping in the parking lot of the Petrified Forest National Park.  Not
the best of accomodations, but I survived.

06/06/95 7:30 pm - Today was a long and boring day of driving.  The trip
through New Mexico was interesting, seeing the adobe houses, and seeing for
the first time in my life, a cop with 3 people lying spread-eagle on the
pavement at the side of the road, and one with his hands up, facing away,
backing toward him.  Must have been a felony stop.  Later, by Albuquerque,
NM, I saw another cop putting handcuffs on an obviously chagrined man.  Not
too sure New Mexico is the greatest place to be.  As I approached Denver, I
decided it was time for a pipe.  It sure made the boring miles go by easier.
 Colorado is a beautiful state, but after 12 hours on the road, you start to
get a bit jaded.  When I actually got to Denver, I got hopelessly lost--
three times.  I finally made it to my friend's house in Lakewood, and will
try to get this uploaded to the PD and also try to arrange a meeting with
Steve Beaty!  He's about an hour north of here, I believe, so I'd really like
to see him if possible.  We'll see if we can work something out.

Note: After the 13th, I'll be on the open road, with no place to be until I
eventually hit Washington D.C.  If you have any advice on places to see, let
me know as I'd like to visit any interesting place you might suggest
(preferably low or no cost-- I'm on a tight budget).  Please email me
directly, for time's sake.  Of course, if you'd like to get together and
visit, I'd like that, too.  Tentatively, I'm thinking I6ll end up going
through Kansas after this, and pretty sure I'll be going through Tennessee.
 I6ll try to write again soon!

--Charlie Jewell

[ More from Charlie on the road later in this issue... -S. ]

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From: David Roberts <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Introduction

Dear Steve,

I hope I'm in the right place to ask to be on the mail list for the
pipe digest.  I had a very pleasant evening yesterday, reading all of
the old digests I had downloaded and smoking one of my favorite
briars.  By way of introduction, I am an American, living in Berlin,
Germany and working on my doctoral dissertation in theology.  I have
been smoking pipes for about 8 years now.  My current favorite
tobaccos are: Bell's Three Nuns Tobacco, None Nicer, Stanwell's Rose &
the Crown, and a mystery English mixture, the name of which I have
completely forgotten but that has been sitting in my tobacco jar for
some time.  As far as pipes go, I'm a big fan of Dunhill, but just
can't seem to afford them right now, otherwise I like Italian pipes -
Castello, Savinelli, Brebbia etc.  Well, keep up the good work, happy
pipe dreams!!!  Dave Roberts ??????????????????????????

[ Welcome, David! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Melted stems

I wanted to write to see if anyone knew how to tighten up loose stems on
pipes.  I had a bag of pipes in the backseat of my car that I had forgotten
about for a few days.  When I finally found them, the mouthpieces on all of
them were loose and a couple of them had the bend melted out of them, from
either the sunlight or the heat or a combination of both (including my
favorite Charatan - drags).  Does anyone know of a way to get the stems
tightened back up without having to replace the stem entirely?  I have heard
of people using burners of some sort to achieve theis but I don't want to try
that until I get more info on it.  Any information about this would be deeply
appreciated.  Thanks!

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From: Hinterleitner Gerd <?????????????????????????>
Subject: RE: Your Pipes Digest subscription request

Hello everybody,
As a new subscriber to this list I would like to introduce myself. My name 
is Gerd Hinterleitner, I am a 26 year old Austrian.
I work at United Nations here in Vienna, were I am a member of the computer 
I am an avid cigar and pipe smoker (no cigarettes).
My favorite cigars a Cubans (I have already been there twice) and working 
for the UN I have access to Cuban Cigars here in Vienna as well. Whenever I 
can I get me a Romeo Y Julietta Churchill as the are only US$ 7 a piece 
During work I stick to pipes since most of my co-workers here prefere  them 
over cigars.

Besides that I also go go for good food ond decent drinks.

Thanks to all the people who make up this interesting group


[ Gerd, I think you may have just started a "run" on RyJ Churchills
in Vienna.. -S. ]

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From: Jon Pilling <???????????????????????>
Subject: Parker Pipes

I read a message asking about the origins of Parker Pipes, I can't remember
whether it was here or in alt.smokers.pipes so I will post the following to
both.  The usual disclaimers apply with the following being reproduced with
the permission of Mr John Campbell, of Alfred Dunhill.  He is interested
with any and all comments although he is not, as yet, on the Net.


The name Alfred Dunhill is synonymous with excellance.  Today the company
enjoys a worldwide reputation for its range of high quality luxury goods. 
The company's origins, however, were most humble, having originally been
founded to sell accessories to enthusiasts of the increasingly popular motor

In 1893 Alfred Dunhill took over his father's business, which was as a maker
of tarpaulin, shop blinds and accessories for horse drawn vehicles, and
transformed it into a supplier of accessories for the motor car driver.

In 1904 Alfred Dunhill's innovative mind produced a brilliant idea, which
was to become a milestone for the company.  It was on the 21st of November,
1904, from 29 Broadleaf Gardens, Hampstead, that he filed patent application
number 25,261 for the now famous "Windshield Pipe".

The Windshield pipe was Alfred Dunhill's first foray into pipe making.  The
pipe was designed so as to stop ash and tobacco being blown onto the smoker
and was ideal for sportmen, motorists and sailors, as well as for everyday

Shortly after this, Alfred Dunhill left the motorities business and opened
up a tobacconist shop at 31a Duke Street, St James's, London SW1.  This
location accorded with his resolution in 1907 to be a high-class supplier of
tobaccos, cigars, cigarettes and smokers' requisites to gentlemen.

Iniatally Alfred Dunhill bought pipes wholesale to sell in his shop. 
However, he was dissatisfied with the quality and in 1910 he opened up two
rooms on the top floor of 28 Duke Street as a pipe workshop.  He knew he
could produce better quality, handcrafted pipes than were on offer to him
from his contemporaries.

The first Dunhill pipes were sold in the shop at 7s 6d and immediately
became popular with the 'officer class'. 

( Shillings and pence refers to the currency used in the UK prior to
decimilisation in the late 1960's.  At current value 7s 6d would be 37p or
59 US cents. )

In March 1912 aluminium inner tubes for Dunhill pipes were patented and were
sold at one shilling for a packet of six.  However, some customers could not
tell which way the hand-cut vulcanite mouthpiece fitted back into the pipe,
a problem which was overcome by Alfred Dunhill placing a white sopt on the
upper side of the nouthpiece, and thus a world famous trademark was created.

Also in 1912 the pipe making unit was moved to nearby 6 Masons Yard.  At
this time a gas driven machine for stoving pipes was introduced, which led
to the invention of the famous Dunhill Shell Briar, patented in 1917.

( In order to produce this finish, two grades of microscopic sized glass
balls are blasted, at around 40 pounds per square inch pressure, at the
pipe.  During this process the softer parts of the pipe bowl disappear
revealing a wonderfully unique grain pattern.  The whole process is
undertaken by hand and it is the skill and judgement of the craftsman that
produces these pipes.  If the sandblasting on one particular spot of the
pipe is done for too long this will cause the bowl to become concave, which
natuarlly will mean it is rejected.)    

Expansion of the pipe making division meant another move, and in 1916
production shifted to 186 Campden Hill Road and in 1920 a pipe bowl-turning
unit was established at 20 Pancras Road near to Kings Cross.

The First World War struck everybody, but throughout the period Alfred
Dunhill's commercial acumen helped strengthen the company.  A most
innovative idea was to open up a mail order service to his officer customers
battling in the trenches in France.  To his most loyal customers he would
send a few extra pipes for them to sell to their colleagues and on their
return to England would reimburse Alfred Dunhill.  The Shell Briar became
one of the most popular pipes during this period of time.  This also exposed
the Alfred Dunhill brand to overseas nationalities as allies from places as
far afiled as Canada and France bought pipes from their English officer
friends.  Thus a worldwide reputation for excellence was growing quickly.

The 1920's and 30's saw a great deal of change for Alfred Dunhill Limited. 
In the early 20's the Parker Pipe Co Limited was formed by Alfred Dunhill. 
In 1936 Hardcastle Pipes Limited sold 49% of its equity to the company, and
at about the same time a new pipe factory was opened at Forest Road,
Walthamstow, E17.

The war years of 1939-45 were difficult for the company especially as briar
root for top class pipes was becoming increasingly difficult to obtain.  As
supplies dried up, reserves in the factory were seriously depleted, but with
the end of the war normality slowly resumed.

In 1946 the Dunhill pipe factory in Notting Hill was moved to Cumberland
Road, E13, and in the same year the entire ordinary share capital of
Hardcastle Pipes Limited was obtained.  It was not, however, until 1967 that
Parker Hardcastle Limited was formed, incorporating the Masta Patent Pipe

Further aquisitions were made in 1962 with the purchase of F Charatan & Son
Limited, and Ben Wade (London & Leeds) Limited in 1965.  It was in 1977 that
Dunhill Pipes Limited was formed, embracing the Plaistow factory in
Cumberland Road and that of Parker Hardcastle at Walthamstow.  In March 1982
Dunhill pipe manufacturing was transferred to 32 St Andrews Road,
Walthamstow, where it remains today.

Throughout all the changes during the twentieth century one thing has
remained constant: the superb quality of the handcrafted Alfred Dunhill

Production of the pipe continues today at Walthamstow where the highly
skilled and dedicated workforce produces beautifully crafted pipes for the
worldwide market.  The White Spot remians on the mouthpiece as a sign of

( Of 1000 briars, only 20 become Alfred Dunhill Pipes, and of those 20,
fewer than 5% become the excellant "Root Pipe".)

"Give a mam a pipe he can smoke
 Give a man a book he can read
 And his home is bright with a calm delight
 Though the room be poor indeed."

                          Alfred Dunhill, 1924      
The above was reproduced with the permission of

Mr John Campbell
Alfred Dunhill Pipes Limited
32 St Andrews Road
E17 6BQ

Tel: +44 (0) 181 531 3711
Fax: +44 (0) 181 523 2816



  Jon Pilling
  E-mail :  ???????????????????????

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From: Mark Lathem <??????????????????>
Subject: PCCA Collector's Reserve Tobaccos

While on that noble, endless quest for the perfect tobacco I happened 
upon a personal discovery that I thought I might share with the group.
I'm sure most readers are familiar with Bob Hamlin of PCCA and his
limited edition tobacco blends.  I had my first opportunity to sample 
one of these blends at the recent PCI show.  The fond memory of this 
experience caused me to call Bob last week and order a small supply.  
While I couldn't remember which blend I had sampled (like an idiot, I 
had neglected to read the label), Bob and I were able to sort it out 
via several e-mail messages and a couple of phone calls.  A few days 
later I had in my possession four tins of "Samovar," a self-described 
"rich, full Oriental Mixture, pleasantly fragrant with just enough 
rare Syrian Latakia to satisfy without overwhelming...Soothing as a 
cup of rich Russian tea."
Well, I don't know anything about Russian tea, but I do know that this
tobak is an Epicurean delight.  Upon receiving the package I
immediately smoked a bowl in a pre-Republic Peterson [your old pipe,
Rex, if you're reading this <g>] and was extremely pleased.  Later that
same evening I smoked another bowl; this time in the huge Taylor Made 
that I mentioned in the last Digest.  This second bowl proved to be the 
single most enjoyable smoking experience of my life--it lasted for 
nearly two hours, and I was profoundly disappointed when it finally 
came to an end.  This blend is delicious when smoked in a small pipe,
but a large, deep bowl allows the flavor to build to its fullest, 
and the final puff is the most savory of all.  I sincerely wish I 
had a Dunhill or Ashton "Magnum" to put this wonderful mixture in...I
don't suppose anyone would care to loan me one?  <BG>
Anyone who enjoys fine tobacco owes it to himself (or herself) to 
give Bob a call at (703) 878-7655 and order some of this rare stuff.
Just be sure and leave some for me <G>.
 Mark Lathem   
"I'll smoke a pipe with you with pleasure" (CROO)

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Re: #5(5) Your Pipes Digest s...

Thank you for your prompt response to my request.  I am a 36 year old female
- in a predominately man's world of pipe smoking.  I am beginning my 5th week
of employment at SPARTA INDUSTRIES, INC. in Sparta, North Carolina.  (I'm not
a pipe smoker - but a cigerette smoker) - and what a change that I can smoke
at my desk since starting work here!  I'm the MIS MGR here and this is a real
treat to see that there is so much interest in the industry.  We are a
We manufacture pipes - our brand names are DR. GRABOW and MASTERCRAFT.  We
also sell supplies and accessories.  Believe it or not, there are some great
"old timers" here at our plant that have been making pipes for a lot of years
and some of them have made it a "family affair".  Most of these guys have
been working here for a long, long time.  They take such pride in their work
- and most all of them collect and/or smoke pipes also.  We have some very
and creative individuals that hand carve the specialty pipes.
Of course you all probably know the Dr. Grabow name.  It's the "World's Only
Pre-Smoked" pipes. (when I got my first tour of the plant, they were pulling
my leg and telling me that we had a room full of 70 year-old ladies smoking
the pipes)  Actually, it's completely automated - but they truly are
I'll be keeping up with you all now that I'm a member, and of course I'll get
my co-workers on-line as soon as possible.  The president - Doug Allen is
very excited to get this going and so is our plant manager, Max Haynes.
 You'll probably hear from both of them real soon.  

Thanks for your delightful newsgroup!  Everyone keep on puffing!!!

[ If you put up a Web page, please let us know, Deona! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Update from Colorado Springs

In case this might confuse people coming into the middle of it, I'm a PD
reader who is on a cross-country job hunting trip, and I'm sending in
periodic updates to readers and soliciting advice on good stopping
points along the way:

06/08/95 11:57 am - I'm still in Denver.  It's pouring rain, which is
kind of a neat change, but I worry about the seal on the canopy.  I'm
heading out of town, but thought I'd stop by and try to talk to my
friend, Tim, where he works, before I head out of town.

3:00 pm - I just arrived at my friend, Clay's house, in Colorado Springs.
What a place! His house is huge.  As I came into Co. Springs, I arbitrarily
picked an exit and
stopped at McDonald's.  I had a hamburger, fries and drink.  I met a
lady and her daughter there and got all kinds of information about the
area's sights.  I called Clay, and a recording came on after 5 minutes
saying to put another quarter in, which I didn't have.  I tried to give
Clay the number of the pay phone, but it kept cutting in and
interrupting.  It finally cut us off and hung up!  I had to go back out
to the truck to get another quarter to call him back.  When I did, Clay
had me give him the number right away.  The next time it happened, he
called me right back and gave me excellent directions to his house.  I
called him when I got here and now am just hanging out until he get's

06/10/95  7:41 pm - I'm sitting at the top of a hill in Palmer Park
(Palmer being the founder of Co. Springs), overlooking Colorado Springs.
Clay and I went to the mall yesterday and visited the Stag tobacco shop
at the Citadel mall.  I wasn't very impressed by the shopkeep.  He
didn't seem to care about helping unless you dragged him across the
counter.  I didn't see anything I could afford, but he did have quite a
few nice looking Meerschaums, in addition to lots of briars.  I was
happy that I didn't bust my bank there, though, when I found that the
mall had a Walgreen's in it.  More experienced pipe smokers may cringe,
but I remembered back to what Don Anderson told me, and I went in search
of Capt. Black in the white pouch.  I find that it doesn't really have a
name for the white pouch blend.  I also found that they had a number of
Dr. Grabow pipes, and I recalled what other PD readers had said, so I
got a freehand, and am enjoying it as I type!  I think that what I've
read about Dr. Grabow is true.  It isn't expensive ($19), but of the
three pipes I have, this is now my favorite.  I'd better get down.  It
only took about 10 minutes to climb this, but Clay said if I wasn't back
in an hour, he'd call for an ambulance.  In 15 minutes it will be an

06/11/95 12:36 pm - Clay and I just got done browsing the mall after
redeeming his winning lottery ticket.  He won $43, so we're here at
"Hooters" restraunt having lunch. This place is just FULL of pretty
waitresses with short, tight orange silk shorts and small T-Shirts or
tanks tops.  Wow...

 2:01 pm - Clay and I decided to go to Barnes and Noble bookstore, and
I'm waiting at the table for Clay to get a tall Mocha at the Starbucks
here inside the bookstore. I've seen a number of military types around
here.  Clay says that there is Norad (Cheyenne Mountain), Ft. Carson,
Peterson AFB, Falcon AFB and the Air Force Academy etc. in addition to
ones that Clay can't remember Accordingly, there are a lot of pawn

06/12/95  1:10 pm - My itinerary has changed a little.  I will be going
back to Denver tomorrow to spend some more time with Ben.  I don't know
how many days I'll be there, but after that I'll be on the road and
don't know for sure where I'll be.  That may even change, soon!  Right
now, I'm using Clay's computer to catch up on email.

I'll write again when I can.  Email has turned out to be more difficult that
I had hoped.  I'm thankful of the stops I can make where I have access to a
real computer, as I do here at Clay's.  Other times require that I use my
antique Compaq portable and AOL's DOS software, which is HORRIBLE.  More

--Charlie Jewell

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From: ?????????????????? (John Y. Liu)
Subject: For Pipes Digest -- What Pipe Sweetner To Use?

Does anyone have advice as to what pipe sweeteners a new pipe smoker might 
want to try?  I have been advised to try straight vodka, and scotch, among 

Also, how should I care for the wood on a smooth oil-finished briar pipe?  
Should the briar be re-oiled, waxed, polished, or otherwise treated?

[ I've had good luck with Everclear grain alcohol, which is not a
sweetener, but is an excellent cleaner. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????? (Gerry Hilton)
Subject: Looking for info

Good Evening to All ...
        Spring is here and my garden is starting to come up. In my garden 
amongst the peas and carrots etc. is a section that I devevote to growing 
about 85 tobacco plants each year. 
        In other years, I've just grown them, dried the tobacco, and as I 
wanted it, I processed it in a blender, added some Scotch and enjoyed it.
        This year because of being enlightened by the DIGEST, I've decided 
to uh ... branch out so to speak. I'm looking for some new flavoring and 
curing methods. 
        I've searched all the old DIGESTS and gotten some good ideas but 
what I really want is a how - to bunch of information on properly curing raw 
tobacco and flavoring it.
        Because of my remote location (6 hr round trip to Halifax ) I am 
rather forced to use whatever is handy locally such as booze, liquorice, 
and/or flavoring. (i.e. vanilla)
        Would somone out there with experience in this, please help to 
further my education by dropping me a line? I'd really appreciate it.
        Thank you Steve for your work on the DIGEST. It's one of the 
highlights of my week.


         Gerry Hilton
         Nova Scotia             ??????????????????????
         Canada                   Ph / Fax 902-682-3194  

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From: ????????????????????????????? (jkurdsju)
Subject: Sign Me Up


Giving in to the gentle prodding of my wife, I cut back on my cigar smoking 
and at her urging, went out and picked up a pipe as a substitute.  I've always 
enjoyed the look and smell of a pipe, but knew little to nothing about them. 
Since you are from the area (I work in Somerset, NJ) I'm sure you are familiar 
with the folks at John David, Ltd in Menlo Park Mall.  They were very 
attentive and helped me select a nice half-bent Briar (@ a 25% discount), and 
recommended a blend of vanilla and black cavendish they call Todevin - very 

The back issues of Pipe Digest I came across on the net were a savior for this 
novice.  I've gotten through the first couple dozen, hence my expanded 

I look forward to getting added to the newsletter and receiving future issues. 
Who knows, since we're both local, maybe we'll run into each other some time.

Jake Kurdsjuk

[ Perhaps so, Jake! Thanks for the word on John David; Craig Tarler
gave me their address and phone a while ago, and I've updated the
Guide. Another member was asking me about them earlier; wish I could
remember who it was so I could  -S. ]

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(To a jogger:) "Hey, sorry about Jim Fixx."

                                - From "101 Ways to Answer the
                                  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
                                  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #192 - June 13, 1995
  2. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #191 - May 31, 1995
  3. Subject: question
  4. Subject: "Pipe Friendly" used pipe summary
  5. Subject: Back in Italy from St.Louis Conv.
  6. Subject: Pipes--Testing Before You Buy
  7. Subject: Intro
  8. Subject: Comfortable Pipe Fit!?
  9. Subject: Pipes: Smoking and Driving
  10. Subject: World No-Smoking Day
  11. Subject: "Second-hand smoke" info needed
  12. Subject: Re: #4(4) Pipes Digest #191 - May 31, 1995
  13. Subject: Greetings, Everyone
  14. Subject: American Spirit
  15. Subject: Re: Calabash and Meerschaum questions
  16. Subject: Re: #1(4) Pipes Digest #191 -...
  17. Subject: Pipes stores in Paris, corrected
  18. Subject: Pipe Friendly Followup
  19. Subject: Old pipe tobacco wanted
  20. Subject: [PIPES]
  21. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #191 - May 31, 1995
  22. Subject: Self-Introduction
  23. Subject: Holt's Cigar Store
  24. Subject: Salutations and Introduction
  25. Subject: cigar sizes [cigar]
  26. Subject: Pipe Purchase
  27. Subject: Santa Clara & California Smoking Laws
  28. Subject: Update from the road
  29. Subject: Introduction
  30. Subject: Melted stems
  31. Subject: RE: Your Pipes Digest subscription request
  32. Subject: Parker Pipes
  33. Subject: PCCA Collector's Reserve Tobaccos
  34. Subject: Re: #5(5) Your Pipes Digest s...
  35. Subject: Update from Colorado Springs
  36. Subject: For Pipes Digest -- What Pipe Sweetner To Use?
  37. Subject: Looking for info
  38. Subject: Sign Me Up
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