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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest #193 - June 22, 1995

		  Pipes Digest #193 - June 22, 1995
	     Copyright (C) 1995 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 1212

Welcome to new members:

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And join us for an early summer smoke and a good read, including
another "On the Tobacco Road" report from Charlie Jewell and some
choice Sherlockiana...

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From: ????????????????? (Wayne Baker)
Subject: RE:MPluvers Pipe Friendly Article

Hi Steve,

I want to thank you for your diligence and dedication to us in the Pipes
Digest world.  It is great to see that pipe smoking is still strong.  

In regards to MPluvers notes on the the estate pipe article in Pipe
Freindly.  I did get a copy of Pipe Friendly and enjoyed it very much.  I
read the article on estate pipes/collectible pipes with great interest.  I
think MPluvers was a little harsh in his words about the article.  I
understood the article as someone's opinion not as the only authority of
collectible pipes.  I think all Pipes Digest readers are intelligent enough
to make their own judgements on such articles.  

The whole concept of purchasing a pipe as an investment is rediculous to me.
Yes, I admit I would love to find a pipe at a flea market and have it turn
out to be worth $2000.00, but that is not what pipe collecting(collecting in
general) is all about.  You purchase a pipe, new or estate, because you like
it! The pipe fits you, it makes you happy, pipes and smoking them is to be
enjoyed and putting a dollar figure on such an enjoyable hobby is sure to
ruin the industry and our hobby.  I urge all pipe smokers to buy what you
like, what is in your price range, you won't be disappointed. 

Wayne C. Baker
Coordinator of Computer Technical Services
Grinnell College Computer Services

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From: Christian Joergensen <?????????????????????>
Subject: About me and the danish tradition of pipes.

Hello Steve,

First I'd like to thank You for the newsletter, which I read with great 
pleasure. This beats the newsgroups by far, to see that everywhere 
else in the world there are pipe smokers who enjoy themselves with the 
tobacco as much as I do.

Then a Brief intro about myself: Age: 26, Field: french litt. and computer 
science, Not married but close, Pipe smoker since age of 16, Since a few 
years smoking cigars as well, but not at all an expert. 

I live in Copenhagen, Denmark, an old country with a strong tradition of 
using tobacco, ever since Columbus brought it to Europe, I mean, the 
vikings didn't have the tobacco, so they smoked all kinds of other stuff, 
and when not, they were eating strange mushrooms to get weird. 
I think they were pretty weird, and further south in Europe they must 
have felt the same about them, when getting invaded regularily ; I'm 
convinced that this is one of the main reasons (along with discovering 
America) for celebrating st. Christopher in the southern Europe. The 
vikings got the tobacco and stopped being vikings and weird (to some 
extent, anyway).

Does this mean that tobacco will stop you from beeing too weird ?? Well, 
honestly I don't know, but I sure hope so... I smoke quite a lot, as much 
as time lets me, and here are some of the most beautyfull things about pipe 
smoking: If I smoked a cigarette as often as I light a pipe, some people 
would surely turn away, with disgust painted in their faces, but when it 
comes to pipe smoking, this is somehow consideret as natural. Secondly, 
with this many cigarettes, surely my throat would be hurting, I would be 
caughing and so on. Non-smokers in general seem to like the smell of pipe 
tobacco (even burning), and I must admit that even to me, as a heavy 
smoker, a room filled with cigarette smoke can be very unpleasant, while 
with pipe smoke it is more like 'the more the better'. I think that the 
peace and calm attached to this sport can best be described with the words
of a danish artist and humorist, Storm Petersen, from the beginning of this 
century: 'You sit with a pipe, walk with a cigar and run with a cigarette.' 
He himself smoked a large kalabash pipe, that never left his mouth except 
when having a cigar instead.

How does someone begin to smoke pipe ?? From what I know, from my 
country, almost every pipe smoker does have a father or a grandfather 
who smokes or smoked pipes, while far from every pipe smoker's children 
smoke or intend to start smoking pipes. Pipe smoking becomes in this way 
a sort of tradition passed from generation to generation, unlike 
cigarette smoking, where this doesn't happen in the same degree. In the 
ealier days this was not a problem, smoking was a kind of a status symbol, if 
you could affort to smoke you would do so, but nowadays medical science 
and health care organisations work so powerfully against smoking that any 
normal parent (father) will have to strongly disadvice his children from 
smoking (that may be pipes or cigarettes). Maybe this will eventually 
exterminate the race of pipe smokers, just sorry for the best and most 
natural smoking pleasure.

This is a little bit of what I feel about my pipes, what I put in 
them their well being and their future.

Now just a little comment to the article in #192 about testing pipes in 
the pipe shop:
In the pipe shops in Copenhagen, the normal procedure in this case is to 
put a little plastic tube over the mouth piece and then let the customer 
try it as much as he likes. This is very friendly, of course, but in my 
experience, a pipe does never feel the same with this plastic tube as 
without it. I have in trying this been surprised more than once by the 
difference. Not nescesarily to the worse, it can also be: 'wow, it's even 
better than in the pipe store'. To beginners it is though a solution as 
it gives an idea about what the pipe is like (a little advice: take your 
time, let the pipe stay between the teeth for much more than just a few 
seconds, that improves this testing method a lot), but for the experienced 
pipe smoker i recommend messuring with excactitude the dimensions of the 
favourite pipe's mouth piece. Most important: 'How thick is it ?' and then:
'how wide is it ?'. Using this method I (at least) rarely (mouth piece 
is not all) go wrong when buying a new pipe.

Now I think that my 'talking time' must be over, if not long gone....

Yours at all times smoking and friendly

Christian Joergensen <?????????????????????>

[ Thanks for the word, Christian!  Interesting comments about the
Vikings... I wonder if that's why they wore the helmets with the
horns? :-) -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (Elliott C. Evans)
Subject: [CIGAR] Re: Portable Humidor

Jack Mann wrote:
> Steve - got a question - when I take trips for several days or
> even weeks I would like to take cigars with me - how do I keep
> them fresh??

An economical solution I once used was to put my cigars in a
video tape case I had lying around. It was one of the vacuformed
kind (From a tape of Disney's Fantasia I think), so it had a very
good seal. 

If you wind up using something not originally intended for
tobacco I would recommend including a humidifier device of some
kind, to keep condensation from forming inside the case.

| Elliott C. "Eeyore" Evans            | 

[ Good idea, Eeyore! One of these days, someone is going to market a
decent plastic "compromise humidor," somewhere between Tupperware and
Spanish cedar lined mahogany. -S. ]

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From: Michael Silver <????????????????>
Subject: Looking for Pipe Shop in SW USA

Does anybody out there in Pipe Land know of a decent pipe shop in the Las 
Cruces, NM or El Paso, TX area?


M. Silver

[ The Guide has a couple in Albuquerque; none in west Texas. -S. ]

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From: "??????????????????" <???????????????????>
Subject:       Andrea's address, etc.

Steve and fellow digestions (perhaps a different designation is in 

I am absolutely ecstatic about recent events in my pipe smoking 
career - all 2 weeks of it!

First off - I mentioned a shop called Andrea's in my last post, the 
address is 2401 60th st.  Kenosha, WI  53140. They do mail order and 
can be reached at 414/657-7732 or 800/831-1684. I can't really 
comment about quality or comparative prices even with a rich two-week 
history to compare to! Prices are around $2.50 for an ounce and a 
half, $20.95 for 16 oz.  How does that compare to the other shops out 
there? My first impression of quality has been good - and I've 
learned quite a bit about some blending process as they make their own 
blends on premisis. 

Secondly, I found a nice-looking pipe in an antique store for $5 - 
it's a Kaywoodie (?) and has a club emblem (like the playing card) on 
the stem. I cleaned it well - the previous owner had obviously not - 
and have enjoyed smoking it a couple of times. During the course of 
cleaning I (in a short bout of impatience) gouged the bit. Does 
anyone know about replacing these? It doesn't push in like my 
Savinelli, it's got a screw in type thing (technical term) like a 
pool cue.

All of which has led me to remember my Grandfather's smoking a pipe when I was 
young(er). On a long shot, I called my grandmother and was thrilled 
to find out that she still has his pipes and that I am "welcome to 
the smelly things!"  Allllriiight!

Sorry for length, adrenilin and nicotine will do that!

R.A. Dawson
College of Lake County
Grayslake, Il  60030

"Let the truth of love be lighted,
Let the love of truth shine clear"
                            - NP

[ Thanks for the update on Andrea's, Randy! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????? (Norm Carpenter)
Subject: Re: Test of ????????????????????

>Hi, Norm,

>This is to test the address, ????????????????????? Please let me know if
>it gets through. ~\U S.

Got it!  ???????????????????? works fine.

Good Lord Steve!  Thanks for issue 192,  but where did all these people come
Do you remember when it was about 10 of us and most of the digest was Bill
Hacker going on about his world famous experiences and the role that his
trusty pipe always played?
Can't believe you got this many guys on the digest.  I got a couple of
comments that I would like to share.  First is that I saw someone looking
for how to fix loose stems and I did a write up on that two years ago or so.
Maybe you can find it and pass it along. Next I would like to suggest that
since you make a comment on almost every submission that comes into the
digest,  you might consider putting that at the top rather than at the end
of each submission.  I can get a lot from your friendly reply in terms of
deciding to wade through the news or not.

Hope all is well with you!


[ Everything's fine, Norm! And I'm surprised you haven't been getting
the Digest, since it's been going to your old address at Olivetti all
this time without bouncing.  I'll try to remember to look up the
loose-stem article; there have been a lot of them, and it might be
worthwhile to use the Web page's keyword search facility to hunt for
things like that. Also see the next article.

But I think I'll keep the commentary at the bottom, to avoid giving
readers a case of deja vu... :-) BTW, no one should feel neglected if
he or she doesn't get a comment, or just gets a short one; many
letters are self-explanatory enough that they can stand alone. Glad to
have you back!  -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????? (Nanosh J. Lucas)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #192 - June 13, 1995

[ ??????????????????'s posting re melted stems ]

I'm not familiar with any other practices, but in my experience I've used a
heat gun and a pipe-cleaner.  I've had several pipes do that as well - so i
put the pipe cleaner inside the stem (leave plenty of slack to avoid
burning your hand) and put the stem over the heat gun until it becomes
pliable - then slowly bend it back using the pipe cleaner for leverage,
then run it under lukewarm water...

That should fix the problem - be very careful, though, to avoid melting
your stem, though - although I'm sure you'll be paying attention.  Also -
making sure the pipe-cleaner is wet while you are heating the stem should
insure that the inside of the stem stays open and doesn't heat up too much.
Get some more input from the pros, though...

***Steve*** - I'm aware that there are plenty of people out there who don't
agree with certain things I have to say regarding pipe-maintenance & repair
- if you feel that this is a dangerous practice, and shouldn't be released
to the public, feel free to cut it out - I won't take any offense...

Nanosh J. Lucas
Netreach Communications
P.O. Box 52044
Palo Alto, CA  94303
Phone: 415-691-0338
Email: ????????????????????

[ I'd rather publish your ideas and let people caveat for themselves.
Thanks! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Re: #3(4) Pipes Digest #192 - June 13, 1995

Pipes.  I want to respond to Deona T. who works at Mastercraft pipes in
Sparta, N.C.  While they make Dr. Grabow's and Master-
crafts, they (especially her boss Doug Allen) imports one of the best smoking
pipes I've ever had the pleasure to smoke in my rather extensive experience
 (which doesn't mean my taste is good...but humor me).  This exceptional pipe
that Mastercraft imports is called Ardor.  It's a little known Italian pipe,
and frankly, some of their styles and finishes are a little unusual and not
to everybody's liking.  Their stems (usually lucite) are also odd with an
exaggerated fish-tail stem.  In short, I've found them to be the kind of
appealingly ugly pipe that grows on one.  Their strength, though, is the all
important one...the way they smoke.  I hate to use such fru-fru terms, but
it's an almost nutty taste.  Anyhow, everybody I've introduced these pipes
to, and they include some very picky smokers, agrees with me about the
quality of their smoke.  If you come across one (and they're moderately
expensive, but not at all outrageous) and you like the way it looks, I'd
encourage you to get it.  Perhaps we can, with enough volume, encourage Doug
Allen and Ardor to send in some of their higher grades.  It must be said that
many of the European companies think we are tasteless, uncivilized brutes
here and reserve many of their finest pipes for EEC consumption.  I've seen
this time and again when I get some used pipes from one of my German
connections.  Perhaps more on this later.   

[ And perhaps Deona's going to get some extra orders for the Ardor
now! -S. ]

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From: ????????????
Subject: smoke

Dear Steve,

Thank you for the subscription.Just a note about myself.Ihave an
extensive background in the tobacco field(pun intended).My first
entrance into the business was in 1979 when I managed a retail pipe
store in a mall and later in a different mall.I was approached and
took to the road as a sales representative for the now defunct
American Cigar Co.Until recently I worked for The American Tobacco
Co. as a sales representative and unfortunately they sold out to
another giant. I have also been collecting tobacco stuff for about
sixteen years and I guess you might say it grows on you.

Well the reason I got on the internet was to try and locate a forum
such as yours. You are at the moment my first and only subscription.
Perhaps your column may lead me to my employment goal of staying in
the sales field. I am highly trained,seasoned,and reliable. If any of
your readers know of a position in the Rhode Island,
S.E. Massachusetts, Connecticut area please contact me and let me
know. thanks alot I look forward to reading future columns.

Gary Griffin   

[ Good luck on your search, Gary! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (Ed Berggren)
Subject: [PIPES]

Hello, Steve,

Thanks for yet another fine Digest.  As always I look forward to receiving
them and am always disappointed when I'm done reading the latest.
Fortunately, I still have over 100 back issues to catch up on, so I'm never
alone :-).

I thought I'd report in on a couple of tips I read about here in the Digest
that I've tried and the results.

First of all, both here and in the Humidor FAQ it was reported that using
Oasis florist foam as a humidifying agent worked as well as a Credo
humidifier.  The Humidor FAQ even had a couple of ideas for easily making a
humidifier out of Oasis and either an aluminum cigar tube or a thoroughly
washed film canister.  I've tried both and am very pleased with the result.
I have a cigar tube one in my cigar humidor and film canister models in my
tobacco jars and they provide much more consistent humidification than the
late, unlamented wet sponges.  In PD #192 "Jack" asked about travel
humidors and IMHO using a tupperware-type container with an Oasis
humidifier is an inexpensive and effective solution.

A second tip I tried was soaking discolored pipestems in bleach to remove
the oxidation.  I have to admit I wasn't too impressed with the results of
my first experiment.  Some of the oxidation was indeed removed, but the
process left white patches on the stem which are as unsightly as the
oxidation was.  Of course, I tried it out on the stem of an old,
inexpensive pipe and it could be that the stem is of such poor quality that
nothing is going to work on it.

On another note, I must say I've been somewhat amused that my off-the-cuff
remarks to Charlie Jewell regarding tamping while driving have generated so
many responses over the past few issues.  Actually, I solved my problem
some time ago--I smoke a cigar while driving instead of a pipe (as you
suggested last issue following Bill Unger's horror story of the BMW driver
whose air bag drove his pipe into his eye--yeow!).  With a cigar, no
tamping is required and usually no re-lighting either.

Thanks again for all your hard work and providing us smokers with such a
friendly and enlightened forum.


[ I had the same thought re cigars & driving... but being primarily a
pipe smoker, I primarily smoke pipes in the car, despite the risk of
freak accidents.  -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????? (Todd E Haun )
Subject: RE: Allow me to Introduce Myself

Dear Steve:  This all new to me, this world of the Internet, but I do 
beleave that I have found a home at Pipe Digest.  As a way of a more 
complete introduction, allow me to tell you a little bit about myself.  
I am 35 years of age and have been smoking pipes and fine cigars for 
the last 5 years.  My taste in cigars varies from brand to brand, but I 
would have to say that the Hemingway line from AF is my brand of 
choice.  Although I dont mind a Licenciados Toro when I can find one.

As for my pipe collection it is mostly Petersons, Nordig,and a few 
handmade gems from Boswell Pipes in Chambersburg, PA.  I smoke the 
blends of pipe tobacco made by Ed Trout of the Stephan Street Emporium 
here in Martinsburg WV.  Thank You for the subscription as I hope to 
enjoy many hours of smoking peace with you and your readers!   Todd

[ Welcome, Todd! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Pipe Mailgroup

Dear Steve;
     Thanks again for your wonderful work on the group. Somehow or
other I misplaced 178 and just now got it off of the website.
Didn't mean to be rude and ignore your question. The Kapp and
Peterson address is one of the retail shops in Dublin, or at least
was so 10 years ago. I don't believe that they do mail order, but
it is in a beautiful location, near the river, worth a visit if in
     I think you or someone on the Smokers newsgroup asked a
question about tinning or storing tobacco. Some time ago there were
two infomercials about vacuum sealing machines which worked on jars
and plastic bags. One was an electric pump with a jar attachment. 
This one was in the $200 dollar range, and had a round vacuum seal
device which worked on Ball jars.  It also did waterproof bag
sealing.  It was promoted for hunters and boaters, and I recall
that they used the vacuum to crush a soda can in a plastic bag.
Using it on plastic bags without some kind of barrier would likely
clog the pump.  The other was a hand operated pump.  You punched a
hole in the metal top, and put some sort of plastic tape
check-valve over the hole. The hand pump evacuated the jar.  This
one cost about $30.  I expect that putting the tobacco in a plastic
baggie, not zipper seal, should prevent the pump from getting
clogged with the tobacco. I don't know if these will beat the mold
problem, or how long the tobacco would last under the "vacuum", but
the absence of air should help.  Maybe someone out there who has
one will try it on tobacco.
     I have to put my two cents in about "collector's pipes" and
the article in the pipe friendly mag. Anyone, other that the people
selling the pipes, who expects to make money on collecting pipes
should have their heads examined.  The market, no matter what
anybody says, is just too small.  If you want to smoke the pipes,
that is one thing. If they are antique hand carved meerschaums, the
market is greater than just the smoking population, but briar pipes
are not likely to have any real appreciation over time.
     You could talk to coin collectors or stamp collectors about
their respective markets.  Only the very rarest items appreciate
enough to keep pace with inflation.  And you will never get the
"collector's" price from any dealer. As the "market maker" (dealer)
is probably the only person who will buy in any volume, forget
about what is a hot collectible pipe. If it smokes well and has a
pleasing appearance, that is all you should be concerned about.  If
you want to invest call a stockbroker, or me, I have a very nice
bridge for sale.  Sorry for the sarcasm, and I don't intend to
deprive anyone of there livelihood, but when anyone tries to give
you an investment analysis of the used pipe market, I think it is
time to run the other way.

[ Thanks for the report on vacuum sealers! I wonder if I could make
a copy of the $200 version from Edmund Scientific parts... -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????? (ppp233a)
Subject: Pipe Digest 

Please add my name to the maillist! I have downloaded and read most of  
the back issues and I get a great seal of enjoyment from them. I have  
been smoking pipes for at least 20 years -- but along with cigarettes.  
For the last three years I have smoked pipes exclusively. 

I prefer Peterson's pipes and favor McClelland's tobaccos - both the  
Virginias and the mixtures. I also enjoy Capstan Mild and Medium.

I also occasionally smoke a cigar - usually  A. Fuente Hemingway.

I am a Greek Orthodox Priest and a Ham operator (KC8EY).

Enuf for now. Tnx for the Digest -- David Shaw

[ That's one of the more interesting backgrounds we've had here,
David! We have quite a few hams (I'm KF2IO, nee WA3RQH) and one or two
clergymen, but never before both in the same person. Welcome! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????? (John Paine)
Subject: Info on pipe stores in Berlin:  Dave Roberts

Steve:  Because I can't use compuserv (the address Mr. Roberts gave, I hope
you'll let me pass on this message through the Digest.

Dave Roberts:  Since you announced yourself last week as living in Berlin,
I'm wondering whether you could fill us in on the names and addresses of
some pipe stores/tobacconists in Berlin which you think are worth
Thanks, J. Paine

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From: "M. Arndt" <????????????????>
Subject: Holmes the pipe smoker


after seeing a footnote in _The Annotated Sherlock Holmes_ concerning
the great detective's pipes, I tracked down of the references mentioned
therein (Baker Street Journal New Series, Volume V, No. 1, 1955).  This
is an interesting article that I think all readers of the Pipes Digest will
(note: I sent this before, but apparently it didn't make it to you)

                      NO FIRE WITHOUT SOME SMOKE

                           by John L. Hicks

      "Genius," says William James, Sherlock Holmes's great contemporary,
"in truth, means little more than the faculty of perceiving in an
unhabitual way."(1)  The Great Detective of course had that faculty in a
higher degree than any other man of his time.  Another philosopher,
Thomas Carlyle, who was also living during the period of Holmes's early
cases, speaks of genius as the "transcedent capacity for taking trouble
first of all,"(2) and Holmes again undoubtedly qualified.  In _A Study
in Scarlet_ he remarks, "To a great mind, nothing is little."

	But where and how, one may ask, did he acquire the "faculty" of
observation and the "capacity" for taking pains?  His musical talent,
his aptitude for scholarship, his scientific ability - these were
doubtless all inherited from ancestors that produced the French artist
Vernet and the American scholar and scientist Oliver Wendell Holmes. 
The Master himself says, in _The Adventure of the Empty House_: "I have
a theory that the individual represents in his development the whole
procession of his ancestors..."  He would not have evolved such a theory
if his own qualities had not offered evidence supporting it.  "To some
extent," also, as he declares in _The Greek Interpreter_, "systematic
training" increased his facility.  His power of observation and his
faculty of patiently attending to details, however, cannot be wholly
explained in this manner.  Moreover, his ability to use the data he
gathered by observing carefully and not neglecting details - his great
power of deduction - could not have been due entirely to heredity and
training.  It is true that in _The Greek Interpreter_ he attributes his
artistry in reasoning partly to artistic ancestors and offers as proof
the superior abilities of Mycroft, but this is only a partial

	A close study of the Sacred Writings reveals that Sherlock
Holmes's powers as a logician were due largely to his pipe - and
primarily to his briar pipe.  Mycroft, of the keen mind and capacious
memory, was exceedingly lazy; indeed, he could be greatly moved only
when, as in _The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans_, the welfare
of his country was threatened.  He received inspiration from tobacco,
but the tobacco was in the form of snuff.  Sherlock was not only a
thinker but also a man of action, and he, significantly, smoked a pipe. 
The difference in the forms in which the two brothers used tobacco
explains their dissimilarity in temperament.

	No one can seriously question that the Master preferred a pipe to
cigars and cigarettes.  He smokes a pipe in thirty-five of the sixty
cases in the Canon, probably does in three others, and in still another
talks about his pipe without, as far as the reader knows, actually
lighting it.(3)  He smokes nothing but a pipe in twenty-nine or, if one
includes the doubtful instances, thirty-two.  He indulges in cigars
definitely in eight tales and probably in one other, and in cigarettes
definitely in nine and probably in one other.  In only ten cases does he
smoke cigars and/or cigarettes but not a pipe.  In eleven tales there is
no mention of smoking by Holmes, but there is no reason to believe that
the great man stopped the habit at any time, especially since these
cases are scattered throughout his career.  Holmes very likely smoked a
pipe during the adventures recorded in the eleven tales in which there
is no reference to smoking, as well as during those of the ten in which
Watson names only cigars and cigarettes.

	The great man's liking for a pipe began early in life and lasted
long; in fact, one cannot doubt that he still smokes one as he
contemplates the industrious bee.  The earliest mention of Holmes's
lighting a pipe is in _A Study in Scarlet_, which records an adventure
of 1882.(4)  The pipe that he enjoys in _The "Gloria Scott"_ is, of
course, on "one winter's night" when he tells Watson of his first case. 
The last reference to a pipe is in _The Adventure of the Creeping Man_,
whose date of occurrence is 1903, the year of his retirement.

	Most admirers of Sherlock Holmes have believed that his favorite
pipe was made of clay.  "Let us consider our data."  In six tales Watson
specifically mentions a clay pipe,(5) and since in three of these
accounts it is a "black clay pipe," perhaps the "old black pipe" of _The
Adventure of the Creeping Man_ is also clay.  Watson tells us in _A Case
of Identity_ that the "old and oily clay pipe" was to Holmes "as a
counsellor" and in _The Adventure of the Copper Beeches_ that a
cherry-wood pipe "was wont to replace his clay when he was in a
disputatious rather then a meditative mood."  The latter statement might
at first seem to indicate that the clay was the favorite among Holmes's
pipes, and it is undeniable that the Master was fond of his clay.  But
since _The Adventure of the Copper Beeches_ is concerned with a case of
the year 1890 and was published only two years later, the pronouncement
can apply only to the first fifteen years of Holmes's professional
career and may apply only to the time of the _Adventures_.

	Concerning the "old black pipe" of _The Adventure of the Creeping
Man_, Watson says, "As an institution I was like the violin, the shag
tobacco, the old black pipe, the index books, and others perhaps less
excusable."  This remark occurs in an adventure of 1903, and the pipe
referred to would seem to have been an "institution" during nearly all
of Holmes's professional career.  _The Adventure of the Creeping Man_,
however, was not published until 1923, and it is hardly necessary to add
that the doctor's memory was not always reliable, even for periods of
much less than twenty years.  As Mr. Anthony Boucher has pointed out,(6)
another "institution" in this list, the violin, was not, according to
available evidence, played by Holmes after 1891.  It may be that the
"old black pipe" is not a particular pipe, but all pipes that Holmes
smoked, confused and blended in the mind of the somewhat elderly Watson. 
Finally, the Master did not treat his clay pipe as a devoted pipe smoker
would treat a favorite: in _The Adventure of Charles Augustus Milverton_
he even "lit it at a lamp."

	Now let us consider the briar.  In only two of the adventures -
_The Sign of the Four_ and _The Man with the Twisted Lip_ - does Watson
say that Sherlock Holmes smoker a briar pipe.  In the former tale it is
an "old brier-root pipe" and in the latter an "old briar pipe."  The
adjective _old_ is significant.  When these two cases occurred, Holmes
was probably thirty-four and thirty-five years old.  Since a devotee of
pipes does not call a pipe old unless it has been in use for at least
nine or ten years, and since Watson as well as Holmes was a veteran pipe
smoker, the latter very likely had cherished this pipe from the time of
early manhood.  His clay pipe, it is true, is once called old; but for
Holmes, who was careless in his habits, a destructible clay pipe would
have been old if he had kept it six months.  In addition to the two
above-mentioned adventures there are others in which, although the word
_briar_ is not used, the pipe is almost certainly a briar.

	One can hardly doubt that when, in _The Adventure of Shoscombe Old
Place_, Holmes lit "the oldest and foulest of his pipes," he was
lighting the "old briar pipe" of _The Man with the Twisted Lip_ - a pipe
mellowed by eight more years of devoted attention.  In _The Adventure of
the Priory School_, the events which occurred twelve years after those
of _The Man with the Twisted Lip_, Watson speaks of the "reeking amber"
of Holmes's pipe.  A briar pipe might have an amber stem, but not a clay
pipe.  The old briar pipe of _The Man with the Twsited Lip_ Holmes
smoked at The Cedars, the home of Nelville St. Clair, and it was
presumably the same pipe that he smoked on the journey to The Cedars.  A
man who planned his course of action carefully as did Holmes would carry
a durable briar rather than a breakable clay when he went abroad.  For
that reason the pipe he smoked on the doorstep of Pondicherry Lodge, in
_The Sign of the Four_, was likely a briar, as was the pipe he had with
him at Poldhu Cottage, in _The Adventure of the Devil's Foot_.  In _The
Adventure of Charles Augustus Milverton_, disguised as a "rakish young
workman," he did descend to the street with a clay pipe in his mouth,
but that pipe was part of his disguise.  In _The Yellow Face_, speaking
of the pipe that Mr. Grant Munro left behind in the sitting room at
221B, Holmes affectionately calls it a "nice old briar," and points out
that it has been given careless treatment, for it is charred down one
side as a result of being lighted at lamps and gas-jets.

	In twenty-two tales Holmes smokes a pipe of which the material is
neither identified nor implied.  Who can deny that in each instance the
pipe is every bit as likely to be a briar as it is to be a clay?  The
evidence supports the theory that Holmes liked a briar pipe better than
any other kind, and that he lit his "old briar pipe" oftener than he did
any other.

	One might infer from many of the tales that Holmes had only one
pipe at some periods; for example, in _The Adventure of the Illustrious
Client_ he says to Watson, "Put my pipe on the table."  If there are
several pipes from which to choose, how does Watson know which one to
put on the table?  Holmes had in mind, of course, his favorite - his
well-loved briar.  Briar, clay, and cherrywood pipes are, by the way,
the only ones mentioned in the Sacred Writings.  Neither Holmes nor
Watson ever mentions a curved stem; it is possible, however, that the
Master followed the fashion of his time and did have one or pipes with
curved stems.

	Watson divers times speaks of the help that Holmes received from
his pipe.  He calls it "the companion of his deepest meditation"(7) and
his "meditative pipe."(8)  When the Master attacked the mystery of the
death of Sir Charles Baskerville, he prepared to spend several hours of
"intense mental concentration" by asking Watson to leave and to have the
tobacconist send up a pound of the strongest shag.(9)  When he was
working on the problem of the disappearance of Neville St. Clair, he sat
up all night with a briar pipe and an ounce of shag - and of course he
solved the mystery.(10)  He smoked a pipe when a tackled the problem of
the abduction of the only son of the Duke of Holdernesse,(11) when he
pondered the mystery of the disappearing bridegroom of Miss Mary
Sutherland,(12) and when he became "lost in the deepest thought"
concerning the problem brought to him by Lord Bellinger and the Right
Honourable Trelawney Hope.(13)  Frequently, when he had a particularly
difficult matter to consider, he smoked two or more pipefuls in
succession: for example, in _The Hound of the Baskervilles_ and _The Man
with the Twisted Lip_ (these incidents are referred to above); in _The
Red-Headed League_, which was a "three-pipe problem"; in _The Problem of
Thor Bridge_, in which he smoked two pipefuls in a row; in _The Crooked
Man_, in which, having gathered some facts, he "smoked several pipes
over them, trying to separate those which were crucial from others which
were merely incidental"; and in _Silver Blaze_, in which he devoted a
whole day to rambling "about the room with his chin upon his chest and
his brows knitted, charging and recharging his pipe with the strongest
black tobacco."  The evidence is so great that one might easily conclude
that Holmes did not solve a single difficult case without the help of
his pipe.  It is true that in "The Adventure of the Norwood Builder_ the
Master spent a sleepless night smoking innumerable cigarettes; but it is
also true that on the following morning he was nervous and pessimistic
about the prospects of his client.

	Colonel R. D. Sherbrook-Walker, in a recent article, states that
Holmes was not a discriminating user of tobacco, but was merely a slave
of habit.(14)  He cites the great man's choice of shag; his custom of
smoking a before breakfast pipe "composed of all the plugs and dottles
left from his smokes of the day before, all carefully dried and
collected on the corner of the mantelpiece"(15); his puffing too rapidly
(he allotted fifty minutes to three pipefuls(16)); his practice of
keeping his tobacco in the toe of a Persian slipper, where it would dry
out and become covered with dust.  No real lover of pipes and good
tobacco can help deploring the lack of refinement of the Master's palate
(17) and the carelessness of his habits.  But it is unjust for one who
likes the more subtle and expensive blends of tobacco to assert that a
smoker who prefers a strong, coarse variety of the leaf does not enjoy
his pipe.  Sherlock Holmes was faithful to shag because he liked it. 
His uneducated palate and eccentric habits, moreover, did not detract
from the aid and sustenance he received from his pipe and his shag.

	It is reported that one occasion when William Makepeace Thackeray
visited his friend Alfred Tennyson, they smoked shag tobacco while
praising Miss Barrett's poetry.(18)  Great Victorians, both early and
late, had a preference for shag as an aid to ratiocination.


(1) _Psychology_, ch. XX
(2) _Frederick the Great_, bk. IV, ch. 3
(3) I am indebted to the references in the concordance by Jay Finley
Christ (_An Irregular Guide to Sherlock Holmes_), but I have made the
following emendations.  Dr. Christ includes _The Adventure of Soscombe
Place_, which Dr. Christ does not list.  And Dr. Christ includes _The
"Gloria Scott"_ among the tales in which Holmes smokes a cigar, but this
instance seems to me to be doubtful.
(4) I am using the chronology suggested by Edgar W. Smith in "Dr. Watson
and the Great Censorship," _B.S.J._ (2), _2_, 138 (1952).
(5) _The Adventure of the Blue Carbuncule_, _The Adventure of Charles
Augustus Milverton_, _The Adventure of the Copper Beeches_, _The Hound
of the Baskervilles_, _A Case of Identity_, _The Red-Headed League_.
(6) "Was the Later Holmes an Imposter," _Profile by Gaslight_.
(7) _The Valley of Fear_.
(8) _The Adventure of the Solitary Cyclist_.
(9) _The Hound of the Baskervilles_.
(10) _The Man with the Twisted Lip_.
(11) _The Adventure of the Priory School_.
(12) _A Case of Identity_.
(13) _The Adventure of the Second Stain_.
(14) "Holmes, Watson, and Tobacco," _The Sherlock Holmes Journal_, I, 2,
     pp. 7-12 (September, 1952).
(15) _The Adventure of the Engineer's Thumb_.
(16) _The Red-Headed League_.
(17) Lack of refinement in regard to tobacco, but not to food.  See
     Fletcher Pratt, "The Gastronomic Holmes," _B.S.J._ (2), _2_, 94-99
(18) Lionel Stevenson, _The Showman of Vanity Fair_ (London, 1947),
     p. 105.

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Pipe & cigar smoker intro

Dear Steve,

I've been lurking, off and on, for several weeks now and decided that it's
about time I introduced myself.  I'm a nuclear engineer living in Richland,
WA.  I was born and raised in Tucson, AZ.  I started smoking in college (U.
of AZ) with a Dunhill corona.  Appreciating the grace and style that goes
with pipe smoking (not to mention the cost-savings), I migrated to a Dr.
Grabow and on up the pipe-line through Savinelli and GBD.  My blends at that
time were Wilshire and Sherlock's Choice both from Tinderbox.

As luck would have it, one of my major professors was able to arrange a
summer job for me in Germany working for the DBE (they handle nuclear waste).
 I worked full time during the week (for very good money from a student's
POV) and spent the weekends on the trains exploring Europe.  I smoked mostly
Dunhill cigarettes because they were cheap, good and plentiful.  But I had a
mission: to find a meerschaum pipe that I could afford.  Success was waiting
in Vienna.

A little tobacco shop in the downtown market had a great variety of pipes,
among them several meerschaums for 6-8000S.  Ecstatic, I purchased a pressed
meerschaum full bent with a lucite bit (it looks like amber) for 6000S
(~$120).  I scurried off with my prize and spent the rest of my day in Vienna
getting to know my new friend.

Among the several adventures I had in Europe (such as losing my wallet in
France, not Italy, as I was warned), I had another smoking adventure in
Amsterdam.  I purchased a box of Romeo y Julieta tubos and had my first and,
so far, only taste of Cuba.  Ah! but what a taste it was!  It brought me back
to cigars.

Nowadays, I smoke Partagas Nos. 1 and 10 with an occasional Upmann Churchill.
 For the pipe, I've migrated through Shag and Bob's Best (Mission Pipe Shop,
San Jose) to the English blends.  I've not decided yet which I prefer but
I've tried Dunhill Early Morning Pipe and Blend No. 965, Bengal Slices, and
MacBaren Latakia and Burley.  I look forward to discovering more blends,
thanks to the info posted hereabouts.

That's probably more of my bio than most care to know, so I'll ask a question
and be gone.   I recently acquired a Churchwarden pipe from the Briar Shop,
Kennewick, WA, and wonder about the history of that name.  My interest is
partly personal since I became Junior Warden of St. Paul's Episcopal Church,
Kennewick, in Jan. of this year.  
Many thanks for an enjoyable digest.

John D. Fisher

Making the world safe for nuclear weapons by sharpening the cutting edge of
nuclear technology.  Lest we forget--it's too cheap to meter! :-}

[ And one more for the nuke contingent on the Digest! @= -S. ]

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From: Bill  Pickering <?????????????????>
Subject: [PIPES] We're on the rise

Just a note to say our numbers have increased by one.  Here at work,
three of us in the department are pipe smokers.  Since we are not allowed
to smoke in the building, we stroll outside on our breaks (pipe smokers
do not dash) and enjoy a small bowl.  One of our new employees began
accompanying us to join the conversation.  After a couple of weeks, he and
one of the other guys went to the pipe shop during lunch and darned if
he didn't come back with a pipe.  Naturally the rest of us are providing
all the help and encouragement we can.  They brought word that the pipe
shop was having a sale, so I went down there the next day.  I was a bad boy.
I'm not supposed to buy any more pipes, but I couldn't resist a Sasieni
quarter-bent for $25 US and an African block Meerschaum (I know, but that's
what I was told it was) for $20.  One of the other guys showed up while I
was there and talked himself into a very nice straight grain Luciano (not
a single pit or fill) for $85.  That's it from Atlanta.  Enjoy.

Beware the fury of a patient man. - Dryden

[ Not supposed to? -S. ]

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From: David Roberts <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Thanks!

Dear Steve,

thanks for putting me on the Pipe Digest mailing list.  I very much
enjoyed reading the issue.  I have an addition for the list of tobacco
shops: Kaernbachs Pfeifen, the only good pipe shop in Berlin, but it
is very good.  They have pipes from Joe Coker (ech!) up to some
beautiful Dunhills, and everything in between.  They also have an
occasional demonstration put on by various pipe makers.  They do minor
repair work.  And they have a small supply of cigars - unfortunatly,
very expensive.  The Address is:
				Kaernbachs Pfeiefen
				Muthesiusstrasse 9
				12207 Berlin-Steglitz
BTW, my wife, who is at a conference in Luebeck right now, just called and told
me that, directly across the street from her hotel, is a Savinelli shop.  She
knew she had heard of Savinelli somewhere, so she looked in the window.
Thousands of pipe!!!!  Savinelli pipes!!!  Oh joy of joys.   Guess I know where
I'm off to next weekend!!!
Smoke in peace,

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From: Joachim Posegga <??????????????????>
Subject: Zurich/Switzerland

Dear pipe friends:

I just returned from a business trip to Zurich/Switzerland; if anyone
should happen to be there in the near future: As soon as you arrive,
check out "Zigarren Duerr" in the Bahnhofstrasse (directly at the main
station).  I was there last Wednesday and they just started to sell
out all their Ashton pipes at SFR 75.00 (ie: roughly 60 US$) per
piece! They had about 40 pieces, mostly Ashton Sovereigns of size
XX. These are usually sold for around 250-300 US$ per piece in Europe,
so SFR 75.00 is close to giving them away for free.

Some of them belonged to the most beautiful Ashtons I have ever seen,
so I thought a while about taking them all. However, since that would
have been very unfair against the other pipe smokers in Zurich, I
decided just to pick the three nicest pieces. It was certainly the
best deal in my pipe smoking life so far...


[ I'm sure all Zurich applauds your fairness, Joachim!  Or at least 37
pipe smokers will... -S. ]

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From: ????????????? (Antti Kalliokoski)
Subject: pipes

Subject: Pipes
Hello Steve and all the readers of this list!

At first I must say to you, Steve, that I am wondering how you can have the 
stamina to go on month after month with the list. I hope that you'll swing 
it for years, but I wonder how long you will last.

I joined in the list in summer 1994 and have been reading and every now and 
then writing with pleasure  for this group.

I've been smoking pipe for about 25 years now (I'm 54). I'm not a collector, 
but my experience has proved me that one must have at least 10 pipes to be 
happy with smoking. Of course the number of pipes depends of the quality of 
the pipes you have. I live in a small town (45.000 inhabitants) in Finland 
and the assortment of pipes is quite moderate. So I must be patient when 
buing a new one. I prefer Savinellis and Royal Danish (former Stanwell) 
pipes. I have to pay about 75 - 125 US$:s to get a fair pipe here in Finland 

I think that you cannot overestimate the importance of proper cleaning. 
After every bowl you must use at least two cleaners. An economical pipe 
smoker twistes the cleaner  so that he (or she) has at least "four in one". 
I am convinced that it is best to clean the pipe straight away after 
smoking. Don't leave the juices in! To the contrary of opinions in the list, 
I never clean the pipe without first loosing the stem from the shank. I 
always use the cleaner from the mouth-direction, never to mouth-direction.

I have been wondering the opinions of people in this list, who are worried 
about the extra surplus on top of their pipes and how to get rid of it. I 
think that it'll do no harm to you or your pipe. A pipe is meant to be used. 
It is a piece of craftmanship that you like. But it isa pal, too. When you 
get aged, the pipe gets older, also. I love the extra surplus on top of the 
bowl. It reminds me the happy hours I have spent with my pal. Of course you 
must bore (I'm not sure about the proper verb) the bowl when it becomes too 
narrrow. I think that one of the most important things in pipe smoking is 
the fact that you must get the bowl narrowing to the bottom. If the pipe you 
have bought is such that this is impossible, forget it! If it is so that the 
cross-section of the bowl is like an hourglass, you must cone it (narrowing 
to the bottom). There are a plenty of pipes that cannot be smoked properly 
(conical). The briar these days is mainly (if you are lucky) of a fair 
quality. Year after year it has become more difficult to get a decent pipe 
without ruining your budget. So, don't wonder, newbies,  if it is not always 
so happy with the pipe as you have been reading about.

At last I'll mention something about tobacco. The less it is spiced the 
better it is (other things being equal).

Antti Kalliokoski (?????????????)
[ Well, Antti, I'll go on with the list as long as it's fun!  Tom Dunn
has been doing it with TPSE/TUCOPS for over 30 years now, and he has
to type _everything_ in himself!  So it _is_ possible to last a long
while.  -S. ] 

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From: Mark Brush <???????????????>
Subject: Cigar Experience

I have an interesting experience to relate that serves to confirm my 
belief that pipe and cigar smokers are among the most civilized in the world:

Last year, I wrote a letter to Cigar Aficionado magazine on women and 
cigar smoking, which they published in their Spring 1995 issue. 
In my letter, I quoted another letter CA had published from a gentleman 
who had some very positive things to say about women smoking cigars. A 
few weeks ago, this gentleman called me out of the blue, told me he was 
in the area (he's from Houston, I live in Southern California), and he 
wanted to take me out for a drink and a cigar to thank me for quoting him 
in my letter.

Since So. Calif. is so hostile to tobacco, I had to do some checking to 
find a nice restaurant/bar in North Orange County that allowed cigar 
smoking. The good folks at Maxwell's tobacco shop recommended La Vie En 
Rose, a French restaurant near the Brea Mall. I had eaten there for lunch 
and had no idea they allowed cigar smoking in their bar. Not only that, 
they have a room off the bar that allows cigar smoking WHILE DINING. This 
is not a private club or just for cigar dinners.

So, Joe and I went to La Vie En Rose, had a couple of glasses of a 
Graham's 20-year-old tawny port, and shared Primo del Rey Baron cigars. 
It was one of the most pleasant evenings I have ever spent. Not only did 
no one bother us, but a gentleman who works at the restaurant came up to 
Joe and asked if he could buy a Primo del Rey from him! Joe provided the 
cigar to the man free of charge.

Joe and I marveled at how letters in a magazine could help introduce 
fellow cigar lovers. He helped found a couple of cigar groups in the 
Houston area, and he said about 30 women are members. For those women 
reading the Digest, there is an appreciative group of men out there!

When Joe and I parted company, he gave me a Cuban and another Primo del 
Rey. He hopes to come out to L.A. for the Pipe and Cigar Expo sponsored 
by the Southwest Pipe and Cigar League, and he wants to escort me to it. 
My husband would never go to an event like that, and neither would Joe's 
wife, so I now have a sometime companion for one of my favorite pastimes.

Joe was a gentleman and a true man of the (cigar) world. And, from the 
postings in this Digest, it would appear that many of you are the same. 
>From myself and all women who smoke cigars as I do -- thank you!

Linnea Brush

[ Nice, Linnea! I hope our readers in the area will also stop in at La
Vie En Rose. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????? (Fred Pearlman)
Subject: Hi Steve and the group

Hello to all the Cigar Enthusiasts out there in cyberspace.

I just recently saw your homepage and decided to suscribe.  I would 
like to take this opportunity to introduce myself.  My name is Fred 
Pearlman, and I have been a cigar smoker for about 30 years (age 50). I 
also smoked a pipe off and on for a number of years but enjoy a cigar a 
bit more.  I live in Union City, Ca., which is about 35 miles from 
downtown San Francisco.  I have been in the bay area for about 17 years 
and work as a project manager in the medical diagnostics/biotechnology 
business. Besides being a cigar enthusiast, I am also a ham radio 
operator and computer enthusiast. I mostly smoke Arturo Fuente Cuban 
Coronas, Corona Imperials and just about any A. Fuente cigars I can get 
my hands on (usually 1-3/day).  Seems like almost everybody is 
backordered on A. Fuentes, whenever I want to place an order.  Also I 
really enjoy the El Credito Wavell's and Soberano's.  However, the 
several month wait for delivery can be rather tiresome.  I am expecting 
2 boxes of Wavell's to arrive this week after a 3 month wait. I guess 
now that cigar smoking has gotten so popular, everybody is backordered 
on everything (at least everything good!!). My primary goal in life is 
to get my hands on a "gen-u-wine" cuban COHIBA. Maybe next time I am 
out of the country on business I can find one. A couple of years ago 
when in Paris, I looked for a Cohiba but did not have enough time from 
my business meeting to do a proper search.  So left empty handed. Hope 
to do better next time.  

I have a question for the group. Does anyone know of a cigar club in 
the San Francisco bay area. If so please drop me an e-mail, as I would 
like to look into joining mostly because I would like to attend the BIG 
Smoke in San Francisco on Oct 15, 1995 at the Hyatt Regency, but would 
like to go with one or more other cigar enthusiasts.

[ If you find one, please let us know too! CA is supposed to be
accumulating a list of cigar clubs; I should send in the Digest
too. -S. ] 

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From: Mark Lathem <??????????????????>
Subject: A.I.T.S. Tobacco Index

Hi, Steve.
I didn't know if you had received a copy of this yet or not.  I got my
copy directly from James Beard, who I believe intends to post it to "alt.

smokers.pipes" (he has received permission from the copyright holder to
do so).
Anyway, while the index is a bit long to put in the Digest (2800 lines or
so), I thought you might enjoy having a copy.
I'll send it in a separate mailing.

[ Got it, Mark! Any member wishing a copy can now get it from the Web
or FTP sites. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: [pipes] for diget 193 or 194

Hello Steve,

I finished a long day of relaxation, smoking and shopping (a great Saturday)
with a look through PD 192.  I have had a hectic week and just now got to it.
I came up with three remarks for the digest readers.  (oh - this is about 80 
lines without all of the header garbage so feel free to edit if need be)

1.  In response to a comment by ????????????????????? about the WHO's
"no-smoking day", our faithful moderator wrote:

>In any case, I'd
>like to know when the WHO is going to stage this, so we can organize
>our own World Smoke-In for Freedom, or Know Tobacco Day.  Better names
>welcome... -S. ]

Personally, I'd like to see a "Joy of Smoking Day", preferrably on a
weekend, where every smoker takes pride in striking a match for public
freedoms.  We can fill every neighborhood park with an hour or two
(say noon-2pm) of quiet smoking and being seen.

2.  As the battle for smoker's privileges rages on, internal dissent rises, as 
???????????????? writes:

>In the No-Smoking section war I consider myself a conscientious objector. I
>don't mind not being able to smoke in my favorite restaurants. I usually
>prefer to spread out on the grass in the park with a nice Churchill or sit at
>home with a good book. I do, however, despise cigarette smokers who think
>their cig doesn't stink. I recently went into a bar and was met by bluish
>smoke to my knees, but when I lit up--on the veranda no less--I earned sharp
>glares and a "P. U." from a group of chain-smoking menthol-mouths at a
>nearby, upwind table. I just smiled and enjoyed my Arturo Fuente. 

Now, I am considerate of people when I smoke indoors (on those rare occasions)
but if I am standing on a city street, waiting for a bus, with my pipe lit, I
do not take kindly to someone telling me, "Would you put that [beep]ing stinky 
thing out?!"  (btw, my response was to step to the other side of this person
so that I was downwind and then say no).  This person did ignore the cigs all 
around him.  Also, I was down in Florida (instead of home in Pittsburgh) last
weekend (6/9-12).  I went to my favorite pool hall, and read the rules which
said "no pipe or cigar smoking"  I suddenly decided to be selectively blind.
I lit my pipe and  quietly smoked and shot pool with my brother, waiting for
someone to ask me to extinguish my pipe.  After about an hour, I was done, and
as we left the waitress told me that the smoke was the best-smelling thing she
had had in her eight-hour shift.  (every table had a smoker at it that night)
Some people may disagree with my tactic, however I am always willing to let my 
pipe go out if someone objects.

3.  And now, on tobaccos, a question.  Ed Berggren writes:

>Three or four weeks back I bought a tin of Escudo tobacco primarily because
>I've read so many good things about it here in the Digest.  This was my
>first experience with tobacco that came in slices instead of ready rubbed
>and initially I had trouble rubbing it out consistently--one time it would
>smoke well, the next time I could hardly keep it lit.  So I finally took a
>kitchen knife to it, chopping it up to an even consistency.  Since then
>things have gone much more smoothly.  I must say I do like it--it's quite
>unlike anything else I've ever smoked.  However, I'm not yet sure that I
>like it $8.30 per 50 grams worth.  I'm about half-way through the tin, so
>I'll reserve final judgement until the last bowl.

I have just purchased several tins of non-rubbed tobaccos, and was wondering 
about the way people smoked them.  I bought a tin of Escudo, a tin of 
MacBaren's Dark Twist, and two tins of Mac Baren's Latakia blend (one of which 
was immediately dated and cellared :)  I smoked my first bowl of the Latakia 
blend today, and I simple ripped up a few disks (4 or 5 I think) and packed my
bowl normally.  This was one of my smaller pipes, and I was wondering if I was 
overloading it.  Any suggestions?  The pipe smoked wonderfully; tasty and dry 
all the way down - however, I had left a large piece of a disk solidly on the 
bottom, and that piece didn't burn completely.  However, a dottle-free smoke
was had, and greatly enjoyed.

Thanks for keeping all of this going, Steve, and enjoy!

Joshua C. Sasmor
[email protected]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Yore response to Jack E.

         Bill Unger was kind enough to send  me a copy of your response to
Jack Ehrmantrout's article in Pipes Digest.  I had read the article several
weeks ago and my reaction was the same as yours, but perhaps a little
spicier.  I know Larry Roush, his pipes, and his devotion to quality work.  I
also know he learned at the elbow of Mike Butera, which would tend to make
JE's article a put-down of Mike.  I also liked what you said about a pipe
merchant giving investment advice vs smoking advice.  Helluva note!!!  Among
the Dunhills, Charatans, Castellos, etc., that I own are several (7) Peterson
XL90 1/2 bent's.  I'm smoking one now.  This is a large pipe with ample bowl
and drilled so a pipe cleaner reaches the bowl.  I just love the damn things.
 Wonder what Ehrmantraut would think of that?  More than a collector, I'm a
pipe smoker of some 33 years and I think JE's gone bloody well around the
bend with his own self perceived importance.
       It was an excellent letter.  You "done good" Steve.  Please add me to
your list.


Regis McCafferty, President
Ohio Pipe Collectors  

[ For the record, I'm keeping out of this one! All I've said was that
I was sure it would be controversial, and it hasn't disappointed me
that way. -S. ]

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From: David Roberts <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Smoking Filter Pipes without a Filter

Greetings Steve,

well, I have now read all of the PDs from 130 to 171 - could you
please send me the older copies from 1 to 129???  That would be much

As an American who moved to Germany two years ago, I was also
distressed to learn that 90% of the pipes here are filter pipes.  I
tried it a couple of times, and have found that the tobacco loses a
lot of flavor.  After almost deciding only to buy pipes from other
countries, I found out about adapters.  Most good pipe shops will
provide them free with a new pipe (Dan Pipe was mentioned in one of
the PDs, and they will send any pipe with an adaptper).  An adapter is
simply a round piece of plastic with a hole in the middle - put it
where the filter goes, and you're all set.  Hopes this helps those
people living in Germany who don't like filters.  Peace, Dave

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From: Brian Gregson <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest Mailgroup

Dear Steve

Saw your posting re Pipes Digest mailgroup - I'm not sure how 
relevant it would be to a fellow-smoker in the Shetland Islands but I 
am interested in seeing what's going on over there!  I've recently 
returned to the pipe after an absence of 12 years during which time 
I've settled here in Shetland with only one "tobacconist" shop hardly 
worthy of the name.  I could well be interested in mail-order from 
the US, although I'm not sure how HM Customs and Excise deal with the 
tax on pipeweed.

Look forward to hearing from you.


The Old Manse, Westsandwick, Yell, Shetland ZE2 9BH, UK
phone:01957-766211; data/fax:01957-766233; mobile:0378847722

[ Anything we can do to help a fellow in need is relevant, Brian! -S. ]

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From: BARRY HENNESSY <????????????????????>
Subject: Advice on my Peterson

Hi Steve
First a long promised personal introduction.  I'm a 21 year-old pipe smoker 
from Dublin,  Ireland who started smoking a pipe a little over 18 months ago.

At the moment I'm having a slight dilemma about my Peterson pipe which I 
suspect many other novice or relative novice pipe smokers have also had.  I 
find that the Peterson bit - where the smoke is channelled through a small 
hole on the upper side of the bit - causes the pipe to smoke extremely hot. 
This is a shame since I particularly like the pipe and under no circumstances
would like to stop smoking it.  Does anyone have any advice as to what I 
should do.  I've only ever seen Peterson's with this kind of bit.

Finally I would be delighted to hear from any other pipe smokers in the 18-25
age group just to make a few contacts.  I don't mind where you're from but if
anyone in the Alsace region of eastern France or in the adjoining regions of
Germany and Switzerland is reading,  I would be delighted to hear from you.  I
intend to start work there in the autumn and would be delighted to hear from 
some younger pipe smokers in that part of the world.  But anyone's welcome.

Best wishes,
Barry Hennessy.

(PS excuse all the delighted's above.  My server has horrendous editing powers
and there's nothing I can do about them now!! BH)

[ Probably the heat has more to do with the tobacco or your rhythm
than the smoke hole, Barry! Try smoking slower.  And I hope some of
our younger mbrs. will drop you a line. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Fwd: Re: Cigar clubs

Forwarded message:
From:	???????????????????????????????
To :	??????????????
Date: 95-06-19 12:34:28 EDT

What really motivated me to write you was your mention of cigar clubs
sending you assortment of cigars.  That sounds interesting.  Could you
let me know who to contact and what's involved.

International Cigar Club
1701 East Empire Street
Suite 250
Bloomington, IL 61704-9916

I just called them up and an automated system took the information.  By 
referring a new member, ICC agrees to send my next shipment free of 
charge.  If you will mention it when you call, I'd be happy to share this 
benefit by reimbursing you for half the charges.  Just reply with your 
postal address, and I'd be happy to send you a check.  In PD #189 I made 
a similar offer.

The long and short of the story is that the club sends you from 4 to 6 
cigars with a common thread.  June's cigars had a ring gauge of 50.  
[Well, one was a 49, but what's a sixty-fourth of an inch among friends?] 
 The month before the cigars all came from the same distributor, 
including an excellent sample that was so new that the band hadn't been 
approved before we received them.  The month before was double coronas.  
You get the idea.  There is no wrapper preference no size choice; just 
five cigars.  This tube arrives the first week of the month, and you pay 
the invoice.  Mine runs $11.50 or so, but I'm close to Bloomington, IL.  
There's a box of wooden matches and a cheap cigar cutter about every 
other month.  I've given two cutters away to novice cigar who just loved 
them.  If you have any questions, or want to send your postal address, 
let me know.
Neil Flatter                 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Chemistry - Math             Chemistry Facilities Technician
Novell Supervisor            5500 Wabash Avenue 73
(812) 877 - 8316             Terre Haute, IN 47803-3999
 FAX: 877 - 3198             ???????????????????????

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From: HENRI de PERIGNON (HENRI PERIGNON) <??????????????????????>
Subject:  [CIGAR]

Hi Steve and all!

Thanks for the great job.
Here are the best places to find cigars in PARIS and GENEVA.

1) Paris.

    La Casa del Habano
    169, boulevard Saint-Germain
    75007 Paris
    tel (1) 45 49 24 30
In this very well decorated place, in a great atmosphere you will only find
Cubans. They are kept in the best conditions: good moisture &
temperature allows you to enjoy them immediately with the greatest
Downstairs is a nice bar (ahh... a young rhum with a good cigar is such
a delight...) and a restaurant.

    La boutique 22
    22, avenue Victor Hugo
    75116 Paris
    tel (1) 45 01 81 41
This shop used to be only devoted to Davidoff. But Mr. Matthieu nows
sells all kind of cigars, also kept in the very best conditions.

These two shops above offer you the best conservation in Paris.
If you also need advise, go to:
    La Tabatiere Odeon
    128, boulevard Saint-Germain
    75006 Paris
    tel (1) 46 34 21 89
The conservation conditions are not as good, but the advise are very
fine, and the owner is a very nice man.

2) Geneva.

In Geneva, I can only advise you one adress, but it is UNDOUBTFULLY
THE BEST IN THE WORLD  (no kitting and exagerating at all).

    Gerard Pere et Fils
    Hotel Noga Hilton
    19, Quai du Mont Blanc
    1201 Geneve
    tel   4122 / 732 65 11
    fax 4122 / 738 64 73

Mr. Gerard is the only retailer in the world to be authorized to have the
logo of the CUBATACO in his display. He of course only sells Cubans. He
will give you the very best grestest top awesome advise. He has his
cigars maturing in his own cellar of course, and will only accept to sell
you a cigar if he thinks it is at its top (he once sold me a box he had kept
maturing for 7 years!). He sometimes has great cigars the cubans make
especially for him, without. He will take time to listen to you, your tastes
and your mood, will let you test cigars with a glass of good Cognac or
Rhum. And he will let you make discoveries, and share his new
pleasures. Connoisseurs all agree that Gerard, describing himself as a
"craftsman" has taken the place of regretted Zino Davidoff in the heart of
cigar lovers. His motto could be absolute quality with no compromise.


P.S. 1      This, of course is no commercial stuff, I only want to let you    
share my enthousiasm.

P.S. 2       From France, the anti-smoking frenzy you're experiencing
looks completely unbelievable. Kafka is not dead, and where is the           
country of liberty? All I can tell you is VIVE LA RESISTANCE !

[ Thanks for the addresses, Henri! They are now in the Guide. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????? (Michael R Stanley)
Subject: Re: Moderated mailgroup for cigars, pipes, fine tobacco


Hello,my name is Michael Stanley. I would be very interested in 
your mailgroup.I seem to be terribly busy in the Summer but
I will try and contribute as time permits. I've been a pipe smoker
for about eight years. I am still at because I found Rick hacker's
Ultimate Pipe Book(secrets of sucsesful pipe smoking). It got me
through that nasty tongue bite. I owe all my "good" pipes to the 
late Barry Levin. His mail order estate pipes are sorley missed by 
me. I even had a couple of nice conversations on the phone with 
him. I just don't get mailings from his wife or Nikos,wish I did, I am 
a real fan of there tobaccos. I lean towards dark virginias and the 
orientals when objectors are'nt around.
I heard about your group in the A&M Gazette. I look forward to every
new issue. Thanks in advance for including me.
           Michael Stanley

Mike Stanley :-?

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Passin' through Kansas

06/14/95 11:02 am - I didn't sleep real sound, but as it
got later I started to sleep better.  Ben's girls went to the grocery store
and I'm going to go handle my email and then better go find an unemployment
office to put in a claim!

06/14/95 1:43 pm - Just got done doing a "courtesy claim"
at the unemployment office.  On my way to get lost
finding the place, I came across a Tobacco Leaf store at
Alameda Village, 7111 W. Alameda, Lakewood, Colorado,
80226.  800-523-6746, 303-274-6746 (I thought I should
start putting that kind of info for the resource guide). 
They have a nice little weiner dog that was real
friendly, waddling around the store.  Great dog!  The
ladies there are pretty friendly and helpful.  Sherry
(sp?) taught me something I didn't know:  One indicator
of a good briar is the weight, relative to the thickness
of the bowl.  If it's thick, but still light, it's more
likely to smoke cooler.

06/14/95 9:48 pm - I just got off the phone with my Aunt Jennie. 
We talked about me coming into town there on Friday night
and staying the weekend.  She works during the week.  I'm
going to try to meet with "DL" Lively, a PD reader, in
Salina, KS.  I hope that he can meet during the week.  He
said that he was unemployed, too, but it sounded like the
weekend was when he wanted to meet.  That may not be
possible for me.  Gotta go, gotta finish this trip!

06/15/95  7:28 pm - Today Mandy, Bekki and I drove down
to a shopping area past Belleview and I got triptiks and
maps and stuff from AAA.  They do a good job there, but I
don't think they use any kind of computer at all to do
the routing.  That surprises me.  I think they should
license Automap from Microsoft, or make some kind of deal
to use it.  AAA and Microsoft could both benefit from it. 
We ate at McDonalds and then I stopped at KMart and
exchanged my bad compass for a better model (hopefully).

06/16/95 - Stopped in Salina today and met with my first
PD subscriber on the trip, "DL" Lively.  When I first
pulled into town, I sort misrouted myself and ended up on
the opposite end of town from where I wanted to be.  It
turned out well, though.  I stopped in at the Payne Oil
Company office and the gals there let me use the phone to
call DL.  He came right over to where I was and then lead
me to "Bogey's", a local hamburger/soda fountain that is
a minor shrine to the actor.  The place is old and small but it's a great
hamburger stand with real good food, including something
on the order of 130 different milkshake flavors!  It was
real fun spending the time with DL.  I wish I could have
stayed longer than the 2 hours we had.  I left and got on
the road to Emporia where my Aunt lives.  I pulled in
there at about 9:30 and am relaxing here now until either
Tuesday or Wednesday morning when I'll head out again for
the open road.  Until then, I'm enjoying some of the
things I'm not used to, like quiet neighborhoods,
fireflys and the older architecture of the homes in the
area.  It will be interesting to see how the rest of the
trip goes until I reach Washington D.C. (where I will
meet my brother and sister).  From here on out, I've have
only my pickup for housing until I reach Virginia, where
I'll meet a gracious country doctor (a PD subscriber) who has offered to let
me stay the night. Then it will be on up to D.C. to meet my brother and
sister for (hopefully) July 4th.

6/21/95 - Today may be my last chance to write to the PD for a while.  I
don't know if/when I'll have access to a phone jack and power for the PC to
upload.  As it is, it turns out the Emporia is not a major town, so there
isn't a local node here.  I'm not even sure exactly how I'll upload this.  I
may end up making a long distance call to get this uploaded.  In any case,
I'm looking forward to hearing from members of the PD mailing list, but
if/when you write, keep it short, for two reasons: 1) I'd hate for you to
invest too much writing, and have me not be able to read/respond until I get
to Washington D.C. and 2) it helps keep my download hassles to a minimum when
I get a chance to hookup and download my email.  I'll be in touch, though!

Oh, and one last thing.  I'd like to publically express my thanks to DL
Lively for inviting me to visit with him in Salina, Kansas.  It was
definitely a friendly port in foreign territory, and I sincerely wish that I
it would have been possible to plan some extra time.  If/when you go through
Kansas, get in touch with DL and see if you might be able to arrange a
meeting with him.  He's a very interesting person, well read (much moreso
than I) with lots of fun little stories of life in Albania, among other

Gotta go!

[ Please keep those chronicles coming, Charlie! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????? (Bob Keyes)
Subject: pipes - 2

	I've recently decided to let go of some pipes which have been
in my collection for a little over 10 yrs., now. There is nothing
wrong with the pipes, I have taken excellent care of them, they are
just pipes that, for one reason or another, I do not smoke very often
so I've decided to let them out to someone who will get more
satisfaction from them. They are all of Excellent quality, and have
had only high grade tobacco burned in them. I have a fairly large
collection and, over the years, have settled on my "favorites". Though
I love these pipes no less, I've noticed that they get little use, and
have decided to see if there's any interest among my fellow smokers
for any of these.

I've had photos of the pipes digitized, and am posting them in .gif
format in alt.smokers.pipes. I hope the quality is sufficient. This
will be my first experience with this technology. Here's a breakdown
of the .gifs:

castello.gif: two Sea Rock Briars, and a Natural Vergin(how it's
spelled on the pipe!)  The "stack", at the bottom of the .gif is a #74
F The "pot", in the center, is a KK32, and is very "cool" with the
yellow lucite bit The Vergin, at top is KK14, and sort of unique
insofar as the shank to bowl proportion is uncommon.  When you can
findCastellos, they run about $250 for Sea Rocks.  I'd like $85 for

sasdun.gif: an OLD Sasieni 4 dot "poker", and a Dunhill Shell the
Sasieni is a "real" 4dot Rough Root, I'd like $75 the Dunhill is a
filter pipe ! I didn't know they made a filter pipe! It smokes
excellently! Dunhill markets it with meerschaum cannister type filters
but it fits(and I prefer) Savenelli balsa filters also. I'd like $125
for this pipe.

stokebey.gif: This Peter Stokebey half bend is briar poetry! F grade,
this is a definitive flame grain, with bottom bowl birdseye. These
Stokebeys have been unavailable for some time now.  This one cost
$350, 12 yrs. ago. I'd like $125.

wilmer.gif: This one is stamped Wilmer Straight Grain on one side, and
Made in England 1810 on the other........you tell me.........have it
for $50.

brwkshp.gif: This unusual pipe is one of the Briar Workshop pipes. The
Workshop, in Stowe VT. was producing pipes in the late 70's, and they
are all fine pieces.  I've often referred to this shape as a
"Scandanavian Bulldog" just for fun. It's a great pipe....cost me
around $200 in '80. I'll take $60 for it.

	These are, I believe, very fair prices. I may be open offers,
particularly if somenone would like several, or all of the pipes. In
any event, I will pay the shipping charges upon reciept of your money
order, or cashier's check.

Any feedback would be welcome at ??????????????????

						Happy Smoking.....

[ Earlier letter deleted at your request. Please contact Bob directly
for the .gifs. -S. ]

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From: ????????????
Subject: Pipe Digest (Cigars)

Please put me on mailing list. My interest is in cigars. I am publisher of
Cigar Connecticut Monthly.
Thank you.

[ I printed your subscription letter because I thought our cigar
contingent would be interested in your publication. Welcome! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????? (Jeffrey M. Poulin)
Subject: Escudo match from C&D Tobacco

Steve:  I've noticed a lot of questions and comments on a.s.p about Escudo
over the last few months.  Thought this might be of some interest to PD
readers.  As usual, I have no connection with C&D except as a customer.

Craig Tarler of C&D Tobacco has achieved his Escudo match and it is right on
the money.  I ordered some last week and have been doing a comparison the last
few days.  I used matching Peterson pipes with freshly reamed cakes to test
the blend; one filled with Escudo, one with Craig's blend.  For me, the flavor
is the same.   The only difference is that Craig's stuff is smoother from the
start.  As much as I enjoy Escudo, I have always found that the first minute
or two of puffing is rather harsh.  After that it smooths out (or my tongue
gets numb).  Craig's blend (#967) avoids that harshness.  It has the same
rich, mouth-filling taste as the original.  And considering the cost of Escudo
($8.30 for 1 and 3/4 ounces for me in Virginia) the C&D cost of $12.75 a pound
makes his stuff more palatable.

This is not a pressed cake.  It comes rubbed out like most of the C&D blends. 
It is perique (a LOT of perique), red virginia and natural cavendish.  Craig
mentioned that he might have to raise the price on this particular blend by a
dollar or two because the perique is so expensive.  At the moment it sells for
the same price as his other blends.

I really think Craig has nailed this one, as closely as he has matched Balkan
Sobranie and 965.  I'll be curious as to what others think after trying it to
see if your impressions match mine.

You can call Craig at 1-800-433-0080.  Hope this leads to some enjoyable
puffing for Escudo fans.

The Bear

[ Thanks for the comments, Bear! -S. ]

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                                - From "101 Ways to Answer the
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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #193 - June 22, 1995
  2. Subject: RE:MPluvers Pipe Friendly Article
  3. Subject: About me and the danish tradition of pipes.
  4. Subject: [CIGAR] Re: Portable Humidor
  5. Subject: Looking for Pipe Shop in SW USA
  6. Subject: Andrea's address, etc.
  7. Subject: Re: Test of ????????????????????
  8. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #192 - June 13, 1995
  9. Subject: Re: #3(4) Pipes Digest #192 - June 13, 1995
  10. Subject: smoke
  11. Subject: [PIPES]
  12. Subject: RE: Allow me to Introduce Myself
  13. Subject: Pipe Mailgroup
  14. Subject: Pipe Digest
  15. Subject: Info on pipe stores in Berlin: Dave Roberts
  16. Subject: Holmes the pipe smoker
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  29. Subject: Pipes Digest Mailgroup
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