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		  Pipes Digest #198 - August 23, 1995
	     Copyright (C) 1995 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 1357

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[ADMIN] Due to a very heavy schedule and the untimely demise of my
Dell's hard drive, I'm having to write this on my lunch break rather
than from home (with briar in hand.) So, in the interest of getting an
issue out at all, I'm going to exclude the usual commentary.
Hopefully, by next time we'll have Linux back up and purring, and a
valued new acquisition from NML up and puffing...

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             Help Stop Prohibition -- Keep Tobacco Legal
                        Call -- Write -- Vote
                        Then, Smoke in Peace.

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Re: #3(3) Pipes Digest #197 -...

I am in the planning stages of setting up a tobacco store/club/gourmet coffee
store in AZ.  I am looking to make this the best possible atmosphere for
cigar and pipe smokers, there will be a club room equipped with large screen
TV, stereo, fax, conference table, etc.  I would appreciate any of your
suggestions on what you would like to see in this type of a store that would
make it unique. Thanks for your help,  Steve

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Twin Cities Tobacconist

     Thank you for the fine job in editing the digest.  It is a quality 
     I want to suggest a Twin Cities addition to the resource list.  
     Jonathon Robert Fielding & Company, Inc.
     1747 Lexington Avenue
     Roseville, MN  55113
     They have an excellent stock of pipes, tobacco, cigars and 
     The pipe selection runs from inexpensive "first pipes" to quality 
     estate pipes.  They have many pipe tobacco blends.  (I would highly 
     recommend Christa's Own and English Aromatic.)
     I bought my first pipe there 5 years ago.  The proprietor was 
     extremely patient in teaching me the ins and outs of pipe 
     appreciation. He also reshaped my cigar choices by steering me toward 
     a few new brands that were more compatible with my tastes.
     The atmosphere is always welcoming and friendly.  If you bring your 
     pipe, ask them for the complimentary pipe stem buffing. You can sample 
     any tobacco in stock.  If I am curious about something new, they have 
     always been kind enough to give a free 1oz. sample of any number of 
     blends that I would like to try at home. 
     If I have given more information than was needed, I apologize.  But, a 
     quality business with fantastic service is a rarity these days.  When 
     I discover such a business, I like to contribute to the "word of 
     Warm Regards.
     - Tom Collins

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From: Lynsa <?????????????????????>
Subject: One for the digest

Hey Steve, hey pipe-smokers--

I can't remember this being addressed here, so I'll bring it up: Any hookah
smokers? I am the proud if somewhat ambivalent owner of a lovely "4-seater"
and could use some hints on how and what to smoke. I would love to outrage
the neighbors one of these lovely Oregon nights by puffing away


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From: ????????????????
Subject: Re: Worst Smoke

This is not a personal experience, but was told to me by my grandfather about
his first smoke. He was about 10 at the time, so that makes it about 1912.

My grandfather's uncle smoked a pipe that he kept filled with clippings he
purchased from a cigar factory in nearby Goodland, Kansas. (I can only
imagine the quality of the cigars.) It was said that you could smell him
coming quite a while before you could see him.

Grandpa and a cousin decided they wanted to try a smoke, so the took the can
of cigar clippings that the uncle kept at their farm and headed for the
pasture to give it a try. Not having a pipe, they rolled "cigarettes" using
pieces of newspaper. 

To say that they turned green would probably be an understatement. Someone
else had to go get the cows that night.

BTW, for a more enjoyable smoke, I like "30th Anniversery" from Fred Diebel
in Kansas City, MO. Haven't found anything I like better.



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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: #1(3) Pipes Digest #197 - August 3, 1995

God knows we have missed you:}    Thanks for the up date..  Also   If any
pipe or fellow cigar somkers are in the area of   Toluca Lake Calif and you
are comportable letting them know.  There is a Land mark restaurant called
Patys  with patio dinning outside.  All of us smokers are welcome there and
this 35yr Land Mark restaurnat is even open for breakfast as well as lunch
and dinner.  They say if you ask for Justin and are a menber of the Pipes
Digest you can get a discount and free coffe.:}  :}  

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Re: #1(4) Re: Fwd: tobak

Thank you kind sir!!
I have informed some people on Prodigy and Apples' eWorld of the tobacco
forum.  Hopefully you will get some response from those networks as well.  I
heard a rumor that Rep. Henry Waxman from California is a cigar smoker in
private life and behind close doors.  Interesting rumor if it is true.
Have you thought about IRC (internet relay chat) for a tobacco chat room?

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Pipe Digest 

Dear Steve,

One of the members of our pipe club in Richmond,  The CORPS  ( Conclave of
Richmond Pipe Smokers ),  brought copies of Your Pipe Digest to one of our
meetings. I found them interesting, informative, and enjoyable.  If it is
possible, I would like very much to have my name added to your list.

I am John Eells, and my hobby for the last thirty years or so has been
smoking pipes.  Collecting, restoring/repairing, carving, and yes, smoking
pipes have brought me a good
deal of pleasure.

I first became interested in pipes as a young man in Charlottesville, VA
where I spent many pleasent hours in conversation with Mr. Robert Mincer, in
the pipe shop he founded on main street across from the Campus of The
University of Virginia. Mr.Mincer was a master craftsman and as is not
commonly known, the brother of Tracy Mincer who founded the Custombuilt Pipe,
the name which was later purchased by Rogers.
It was then that I purchased my first good pipe; a small Comoy Tradition full

After a few years in the Army, I returned to Ch'ville and while attending
UVa., I went to work for Mr. Mincer part time to help meet expences. It was
during this time that I received my training from him in the art of making
and repairing smoking pipes.  And this is where I began to establish a modest
collection of smoking pipes.  As well as being able to purchase at a store
discount,  I suppose as a quality control measure, Mr. Mincer allowed me to
purchase any unclaimed pipes for the cost of the repairs. That was the
beginning for me.  I was hooked on collecting.


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From: ??????????????????????????? (Linda Vixie)
Subject: Need value of tobacco box (also for sale)

I have an old wooden tobacco box I'd like to find the value of
and sell.
I volunteer at a private elementary school library, where this
box has been residing as a decoration (who knows how it got
there). I'd like to sell it for its highest value so that I can
buy more books for the library.

I've taken it to a local antique dealer, who said he knew nothing
about the value of tobacco collectibles, but that he'd probably
price it at $50 (high end), just on its appeal as an old box.

If you can tell me what it might be worth, I'd appreciate it.  If
you'd like to buy it, let me know.

Here's a description:

Wooden Tobacco Box With Hinged Lid

Size: 12 5/8 x 3 7/8 x 2 inches

WOOD: Unknown

FINISH: quite dark stain (?), but wood grain is visible. Lid is
finished inside and out. Box is finished only on the outside.
The lid has an old printed picture glued inside. Caption is
"Builders of a Better Boyhood" and shows a line of schoolboys
standing at attention in school uniforms. The picture has been
scribbled on by pencil (one mark says Oct 5 192?), and there are
pencil marks on the inside lid wood.

CONSTRUCTION: Corners are joined by a flat tenon and mortise (not
dovetail). Bottom appears to be glued in. No lining.

The lid is hinged in the back with curious wire hinges. Two metal
wire loops protrude from the front edge of the lid, and there are
small holes in the wood below them, evidently for other metal
pieces that allowed the box to be fastened shut.

CONDITION: Aged box. No cracks in wood. In a couple places, the
finish has chipped, leaving a lighter-colored area.

On the bottom, in a kind of reverse embossing it reads:


To the right of this message is:

2 7/8

On the back of the box is:


3 x 12 - 5 1/3 Oz.

Can send photos if desired.

I thank you very kindly for whatever advice you can give as to
how to best sell this box at its maximum value.

Linda Vixie


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From: Mark Lathem <??????????????????>
Subject: Re: C. S. Lewis Pipe

Matt Arndt <????????????????> wrote:
>I finally watched the movie "Shadowlands" a couple of weeks ago.  It is 
>about C.S. Lewis (and was a real tearjerker, well, for my wife at least :)
>Anyway, Lewis (played by Anthony Hopkins) has what appears to be a large
>Dunhill (possibly an ODA), pear shaped bowl, straight stemmed briar.  I 
>recall only briefly glimpsing the Dunhill white dot on the stem in one 
>scene, so I am assuming it was a Dunhill (which is probably a pretty good
>bet for an Englishman).  Is there anyone more versed in Dunhill pipes who
>has seen this movie and could tell me exactly what pipe it was?
I'm not a Dunhill expert, but I am a fan of C. S. Lewis who owns a copy of 
"Shadowlands," as well as a VCR with a "pause" feature <g>.
You did, in fact, see a white spot on the stem of the pipe in question.
I don't know the shape number of the pipe, but I did note it has an oval
shank.  The bowl does appear to be of group 5 or larger.  The pipe appears 
to be a "bruyere," but it could be a well-smoked "root."  The spot itself 
is of the later, larger variety.
If anyone out there would like to give Matt some additional help, the
pipe in question is featured in a scene early in the film where Lewis
(Hopkins) is delivering a lecture to his students.
Mark Lathem

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: Moderated mailgroup for cigars, pipes, fine tobacco

Hello!  Hello!

	Please include me in your   "Pipes Digest mailgroup". 

	My present concern:  a calabash with a broken bowl.  Where can I order replacements for the meerschaum bowl?  Are 
such bowls poured as slip into a mold or are they carved from solid blocks?  If the former, can I purchase a mold and meerschaum 
clay slip?  If the latter, can I purchase the blocks?



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From: "A. W. Donovan-Shead" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Smoke Signal #18 [PIPE]

Smoke Signal #18

Pipes Digest #197 started a few random thoughts. My worst smoke was
when I was ten or eleven, maybe younger. Anyway, we had moved from the
Big Smoke of London town to the seaside bliss of Hayling Island, a
wonderful place for children on the South coast of England. Some
neighbourhood kids and I were gathered in our empty garage where we had
a swing lashed to the rafters. Who knows how this kind of thing gets
started, but it did and we took to smoking hand-rolled blotting paper
that we could buy at the local newsagent's for a penny a sheet. Pink
paper was the thing although I don't remember having any choice,
perhaps that was all Clapp's Newsagency had for sale. He must have
wondered at the sudden rush on blotting paper by the neighbourhood
children. I can recall the flavour quite easily today it was . . .
well, like blotting paper.

We saw the movie "Smoke." It was good. I liked it, a movie about
people, local people, and how these people reached out to touch the
lives of each other to good effect. If you can imagine the circles of a
Venn diagram then the cigar store was the central circle and the lives
of its owner and patrons were the other circles intersecting the
centre. I will venture the opinion that this is the first movie
produced in America by American hands that treats people both black and
white as human beings on the same scale. "Smoke" portrayed Tolerance
and Humanity, and although there was a measure of violence the
producers exercised restraint, choosing to intimate rather than to
assault us with a gratuitously graphic portrayal, I recommend it to

There was some mention of Kessler and others of his stripe, with their
grubby paws on the levers of power. As you may have realised, I am a
devotee of the essay. E. M. Cioran is a Rumanian, born in Rasinari in
1911. He moved to Paris in 1937 and wrote in French, exclusively, as an
essayist, as a critic, and as the author of two novels. His book of
philosophical essays "The Fall into Time" was well translated by
Richard Howard and published in this country by Quadrangle books. What
Cioran says in his essay "The Tree of Life" struck me as singularly
descriptive and appropriate when applied to bureaucrats and

"It is never the strong, it is the weak who crave and who gain power,
by the combined effect of cunning and madness."

                             E. M. Cioran,
                             "The Tree of Life."


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: My Introduction

Dear Steve,
     This is the first time I've had the time to write an introduction.  I
have been a subscriber for only 2 weeks, but so far have thoroughly enjoyed
PD.  Speaking of young people, I am a 26 YO pharmacist.  I have been smoking
cigars for only 8 months, but I'm hooked.  Hooked meaning I enjoy the flavor
and aroma of a fine cigar as well as the relaxation it brings me.  As I write
I am enjoying an El Rey Del Mundo Robusto Largo and a fine mug of Chipinge
coffee from Zimbabwe.  I am an ex-cigarrette smoker.  I quit that digusting
habit over a year ago in favor of exercising.  While on a vacation to
San-Diego in December, my friends and I took a day trip to Mexico where I
enjoyed my first Cuban cigars.  I purchased several Montecristos, a few
Upmanns and a Cohiba, all of which I thoroughly enjoyed.  That is what got me
started.  I now have a collection of over 300 cigars.  My father and I are
building a king-sized humidor to store my collection.  It will be made of
Honduran Mahogany and Spanish cedar of course.  I bought an Ambient humidor
from Daniel Marshall several months ago but it just isn't big enough anymore.
It is an excellent humidor and I will always use it, I just need another.    
     As far as bad smokes go, the only one I ever had was a JR Ultimate that
my mother's boss gave her to give to me.  It was tighter than a frog's a**,
and dried out.  It obviously had not been stored correctly.  I only smoked
about one-half inch of that awful thing.  I have since had some Ultimates
that were very good.
     I can't say that there is any one type of cigar that I won't smoke or
don't like.  They all have their own separate palate pleasing aspects.  When
I first started smoking I turned my nose up at full bodied smokes but now
enjoy them as well as lighter smokes.  Some of my favorites are Dunhill
Peravias, Fuente Cuban Coronas, Chateau Fuentes, and Hemingways, Upmann
Lonsdale, Don Thmas Special Selection and Toros and Cohiba Robustos.
     I would really like to try some pipe smoking but don't know where to
begin.  I understand that the pipe itself can add or detract from the flavor
of the smoke.  Some advice about a good beginners pipe would be appreciated.
     Thanks very much for PD keep up the good work.

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From: ??????????? (Craig Tarler)
Subject: For PD:  Tobacco Arcanae

A customer of mine has a couple of items for sale. This effort on my part is
just being helpful, I
have no financial interest.

1. Rare carved meerschaum:Viennese circa 1850. Bowl carved from a single
piece of
meerschaum, much colored from use, depicting a bust portrait of an
attractive young woman in a
broad brimmed hat, the stem is carved amber turned orange, the case is lined
with velvet and
satin and bears the label D. Glass & Co., Clare Street, Bristol. Length
4&1/2 inches.

2. Circa 1800 cast iron tobacco jar. Man's head and body bent over backwards
with hands in
praying position , large nose, hat is jar top. 4" high, 3 1/2" wide and 3
1/2 " deep.

If you have an interest, or know somebody who might, call Jay Tripp at
517-567-2208. He lives
just outside East Outhouse Michigan and can't get on the net.


Let me not to the true marriage of pipe smokers and their tobacco admit

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From: ??????????? (Craig Tarler)
Subject: Visit to Sparta Industries

Took a busman's holiday last Wednesday and hauled the family (bride
and 2 granddaughters) up into the mountains to Sparta Industries,
Sparta, NC, about 2 hours away.  Had a delightful visit with and tour
by Doug Allen, president.

In addition to the Dr. Grabow pipes (over 1,000,000 a year), they make
Mastercraft and Alpha pipes and handle Pipa Croci, Ardor and other
*fine* pieces.  I have had the pleasure of observing individual pipe
carvers, but I had never seen a production line.  Fascinating!  Some
operations are automated, but most are by hand.  In all cases, the
skill and eye of the individual is the key.

Pallet after pallet of briar sacks fill a vast area as they age. Lines
of machines with skilled craftsmen carving bowls and
shanks. Inspectors checking for cracks, sand holes and, very
important, grain. They inspect the wood dry and then wet it to get a
good look at the grain. The best, naturally, are saved for special
finishing.  Another line of operators drilling airholes in the shanks
(10/64 " for those who care) and another forming bits.  Then the pipes
and the bits are "married" and fitted. At this point each pipe is
unique, so that when it comes to adding laquer, the stems and bowls
have to be kept in the right order so they can be matched again. Not
an easy task with a million pipes. One careless moment and there's

Why the mountains of North Carolina for a pipe factory? The company
was founded in 1941 and Mediterranian briar was unobtainable. However,
the mountain laurel of the region has a root very similar to briar but
heavier, more dense. Therefore, many of their pipes made during WWII
are not briar, but laurel. Saw a couple of them and you couldn't tell
the difference except a slight bit more weight. Grain was very similar
and finish the same as briar.  So, any of youse guys what has an old
Dr. Grabow made in the early forties may really have a "laurel" not a

Whatever, the trip was really wothwhile. Saw some excellent Italian
pipes that I drooled over, but I left the moths in my purse, darn it.
Anybody headed into NC mountains -- Sparta isn't far west of I77 and
just below the VA border, -- ought to take time for a visit. It's an
eyeopener and the mountain location is spectacular.  Suggest you call
ahead and make arrangements with Dan Finney, VP Marketing, or Doug
Allen. Tel # is 919-372-5521.  Best,


Let me not to the true marriage of pipe smokers and their tobacco
admit impediments.

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: Worst Smoke

Re: Worst Smoke

As a 23 year old Air Force Officer stationed in Nashville, Tenn, I was single
at that time.  When I found out that a young lady I was seeing came from a
farm that grew tobacco, it was love at first sight.  

During a trip home to meet the family, her father took me to his drying shed,
grabbed a handful of tobacco leaves, rolled them into a cigar, and offered me
a Tennessee smoke.  

I immediately decided that I would seek a Cuban girlfriend.

L. Colvin

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: A question

I am currently trying to learn about cigars and have one question:

What is the difference between natural and maduro cigars?

Thank you.


P.S.   Can somebody please re-send me the Cigar guide on finding cigar
periodicals, etc.

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Question

Does anybody know where I would be able to purchases a hookah in the Norther
New Jersey, New York City area?



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From: ????????????????????????????
Subject:  PIPES DIGEST #197 - AUGUST 3, 1995

Steve -- Thank you so much for your labor of love in providing PD for those
of us who enjoy pipes and tobacco as more than just a habitual method of
smoking. When I began smoking pipes and visiting tobacco shops in the early
1970's, our pasttime was quite a respectable endeavor. The mythology
surrounding the invention of second-hand smoke had not become a part of our
culture's perceived reality. Quality, aged briar was abundant. Oh, for the
good old days. I always hated it when the old-timers said that; now
listen to me.

Alas, this media and particularly PD has become my primary method of
sharing this hobby with others so amorously involved in pipe-smoking. Even
though we can't gather around the pipe-bar at the local tobacconist's and
discuss pipes and whatever is on our minds, we can light up our favorite
mixture, listen with our eyes, speak with our fingers, and enjoy each other
and our contributions across the miles. This has been an inspiration for me
and I would conjecture that it has had the same effect on other

A long-time Edwards Pipe Shop customer, I have been looking to purchase an
Edwards pipe, a shape discontinued many years ago. It was called the
Commodore, an oversized pipe with a flat bottom. If any of your readers
have one of these they would like to sell, I would invite them to get in
touch with me via e-mail.

Thanks for all  your efforts. They are appreciated.

Steve, St. John Lutheran Church, Port Arthur, Texas
 7:02 am  Sun, Aug  6, 1995

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Beginning pipe smoker needs advice

I wish to begin smoking a pipe but am unsure of many things.  First, what
type of pipe should I buy as my first pipe.  I posed this question to my
local Tinder Box employee who immediatly told me to buy a cheap one to make
sure I was going to enjoy smoking a pipe.

He recommended a $4 "corn cob"  pipe.  He said they actually provide a
relatively good smoke because they are so porous.  He said the reason they
are so cheap is because they "burn out" so fast.  He advised that some people
actually use these cheap pipes as thier pipe of choice.

What do you think?

Any advice as to what type of tobacco to start with?

Is there any publication, book, etc that tells the ins and outs of pipe
smoking on a "how to" level?

Any other suggestions about the excessories of the pipe smoker?

Thak you for your assistance.

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From: ????????????????????????? (Alberto Bonfiglioli PIPEMAKER)
Subject: Christmas Pipe

Dear Steve,
        I want announce at PD readers that these year the Bonfiglioli
Christmas Pipe will be Prince shape with sterling band, special wood box.
ONLY 20 pipes numbered.
Number 1 and number 2 are just reserved from my dear friend Ray Bromley and
his father 
* "LA BONFIGLIOLI" BOLOGNA Di Bonfiglioli Alberto - Smoking Pipe Maker*
* Show Room - Laboratory in : Via Bertiera 8/a - 40126 BOLOGNA (Italy)*
* tel +39 -51 231771                                                  *
* E-Mail                  ???????????????????????????                 *
* For my WWW homepage     http://www.italia.com/bonfiglioli           *

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From: ??????????? (Craig Tarler)
Subject: L.L. Bean Pipes & Tobacco


Re. your wish that someone would send me Beans tobacco. My customer
who said he had some, hasn't.

However, some detective work has revealed that while there is no stash
of tobacco left, there are a lot of the pipes!  They are now called
"Smoke Masters" and sold by Sparta Industries. They have a bunch of
them left over. They are not marked LL Bean.  Price is $6.95 ea.  plus
shipping: straight or 1/4 bent Dublin. Call Dan Finney, VP Marketing,
at 919-372-5521, ext. 254.

>From my experience these are great pipes if you're working or playing
outdoors. At the price, you can afford to drop one overboard, even.

Still looking for Beans tobacco and would be glad to take a shot at
it. I need a couple of pipesful to try and copy.  Best,


Let me not to the true marriage of pipe smokers and their tobacco
admit impediments.

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From: Shawn <?????????????>
Subject: .!.

   I just recieved your latest issue of Pipes digest.  I must say I 
enjoyed everything about it!  
   A brief introduction,  I'm a 22 year old entrepreneur and have been 
smoking a pipe since I was 17.  I only have 6 at this time but am allways 
looking for more.  My favourite is one my grandfather gave me before he 
passed on, I have no idea on what type it is but he took good care of it 
throughout the years.  He had smoked only this pipe for as long as my 
father or myself can remember.  It has a slightly bent stem and oval 
shaped bowl.  
   Could you change my mailing address from ??????????????????? to 
 Shawn Highfield  
 - Whenever the world goes right,
    - There is allways one thing forgotten!

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From: ??????????????????????????????? (cheryl bray)
Subject: Clay Tobacco Pipes

Are you aware of Olde World Fine Clays, Cape Breton, NS. Stephen Bray,
Pipemaker is producing high quality reproductions of 18th Century Clay
Tobacco Pipes. 18th Century Dutch, 18th Century English Tavern Pipes.
These pipes are made using 18th century methods, hand rolled, and placed in
a solid press mould. (These pipes are not poured)
All pipes are burnished with agate and water, then fired. These pipes have
been approved by the archeologists at the Fortress of Louisbourg, NS as
being the highest quality reproductions anywhere., and pipe smokers comment
on what a nice cool smoke it is.
If you are interested in more information you can contact me, and I can
connect you with Stephen.

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From: ??????????????? (MICHAEL R.STANLEY)
Subject: introduction

Steve,and everyone else;
Hello,My name is Mike Stanley,I've been "lurking" since PD 190 as
??????????????????????? My address has since changed to
??????????????????????????? which bouces my mail to address you see at the
header now that I've gotten my feet wet on this Internet thing...anyway. I
really enjoy reading allthe posts from pipe and cigar smokers around the
world. I'm kind of the odd man out in my circle of friends . I don't really
"hang out" with anyone who currently enjoys a good pipe.
    I'm a 32y old ,married with two great Sons(Paul 6 and Neil 3 1/2). I'm
employed as a Suburban Cleveland Police Officer (9yrs) and I've just
recently discovered the wonderful world of computing with a MAC LC II.
Kinda outdated but it suits my needs.
    As I said ,I don't have any friends who smoke a pipe,my Father did
years ago but he's since become an anti smoking nazi type so he was no
help. My Grandfather(rip) passed before I began smoking anything. He always
smoked Amphora in a brown pack. He also used one Dr. Grabow for bout 6
weeks and threw it out for a new one. I waited until I was married and had
a Son to start smoking a pipe because I thought you had to be older to
smoke one. I figured the afore mentioned qualified me as older. Went to the
local drugstore,purchased a pipe some tobacco(Amphora brown,what else) and
proceeded to burn the bejeezus out of my tongue on a regular basis! I did
this for about  a year before I even knew you could buy pipes and tobak and
a store specializing in such things. While learning to use my local
librarys' new computer card catalog,I punched in the subject Pipes.
Well,there they were,people had written books on the subject!
I was now on my way with a copy of "Pipes and Tobacco" by Carl Ethwa(sp) as well
as Rick Hackers first book. I since have read what I believe to be every
available book on pipes and my tongue loves me for it. I got all the back
issues of "The Compleat Smoker" from Theodore Gage,really a shame that
publication went under. I received  a bunch of photos of pipes from a guy
named Barry Levin, it seemed like a great way to get a nice,high quality
pipe at a price I could afford. Unfortunatly,by the time I poured over the
photos,every pipe I picked out was sold. I think after my third or fourth
mailing I was sucsessful. I'm smoking a Comoy tradition pot style filled
with Sofisticate I purchased from Barry as I bang this out.
    My tobbaco tastes are heavily influeced by the Personal Reserve
series,my favorite being Bombay Extra. I had several interesting
conversations with Barry over next the eighteen months with him,his passing
was terribly sad.
    I discovered the Internet Pipes Digest by way of The A&M Gazette, I
reaaly enjoy the fiction it. I also faithfully watch Sherlock Holmes
Mysteries on A&E.
     Well,that's me in a nutshell. Looking forward to future issues of
PD,hope I did,nt bore too many. Smoke'em while you can.

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From: ???????????????????? (Samuel J. Freund, Esq. )
Subject: John David, Ltd.

I copied the address off of the label on a bag of house brand tobacco. 
Finck Cigar company has Perique and Latakia by the pound, also J & R 
has a distribution arm which sells tobacco in five pound bags.

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From: "csoc::mrgate::a1::smithra"@csoc.dnet.dupont.com
Subject: i appologIZE

From:	NAME: Roger A. Smith                
	FUNC: DUPONT NYLON                    
	TEL: 992-3199                         <SMITHRA AT A1 AT CSOC>
To:	"????????????????????????"@?????????????

i must appologize for my inadvertent and UNknowing insult to you 
all. only after i sent my note to you DID I LEARN THAT WEB 
ETIQUETTE demands that you never, never ever write a note in ALL 
CAPS.this was my first forray on the NET.pleeze forgive!

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From: "M. el Kouni, Ph.D." <????????????????????????????>
Subject: PD

It is about time to introduce my self. I am a university Professor who has 
been smoking and collecting pipes for over 30 years. I have a collection of 
over a hudered pipes from almost every maker. My prefered ones are the 
Ferndowns, Beckers, Mastro de Paja, old Barlings and pre-1970 Dunhills. I 
occasionally smoke cigars (mostly cuban and Davidoffs).The types of tobacco 
or cigars I smoke varies a lot depending on the mood, time of the day, and 
the meal and/or drink I have. My other hobbies are collecting westren and 
native american art as well as old silver. Needless to say I have been 
enjoying reading the PD for few weeks now and would appreciate very much if 
is possibleto  e-mail me PD issues prior to PD #194, . I would like also to 
add my tobbaconist here in Birmingham  to your list.

          The Briary
          741B Brookwood Village
          Birmingham, AL 35209

The owner's name is Skip Elliot and he is a real gentleman and very 
helpfull. Skip is quite experienced about Pipes and tobbacos, and carries a 
very good selection of pipes (Dunhill, Ser Jacapo, Mastro de Baja, Ashton, 
Upshall, Caminitto, etc), and bulk pipe tobacco (house blends, Lane, 
Dunhill, McBaren, etc.). In addition, Skip has a nice cigar humidor and does 
mail order and pipe repairs.  If you ever are in Birmingham visit him and I 
am certain you will enjoy the place.

     I would also like to add the name of Julius Vesz, a superb canadian 
pipe maker, to the list. I visted Julius in his place in the Lobby of the 
Royal York Hotel while in Toronto a couple of months ago  and saw his work. 
Superb to say the least. His pipes ranges from 65$C to 10,000$C for work of 
art pieces. His sliver and gold bands, with or without precious stones, are 
exquisite. He is an artist whose grand father was a pipe maker for the 
Austro-Hungarian court. I have seen some of his grand father pieces. They 
belong to a museum. In fact he has a room in the back of his shop where he 
displays these fantastic pipes as well as some of his own as well as variuos 
smoking articles. The room has an Austrian ambience where one can smoke 
peacfully, drink home made strong coffee, and discuss different topics, form 
pipe making to politics, with Julius. His place is a must for any pipe 
collector who is visiting Toronto. I quite enjoyed him and his place. Here 
is his address:

          Julius Vesz
          Royal York Hotel
          100 Front Street West
          Toronto, Ontario
          Canada M5J 1E3

     Finally, it would be repeatative to state that I really enjoy the PD 
and I thank you for your time to organize this endevour.

Mahmoud H. el Kouni

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From: RC Hamlin/PCCA <???????????????????????>
Subject: FYI

Subj:  NY Pipe Club Show 9/95           Section: 
From:  RC Hamlin/PCCA           71530,40       # 575599, * No Replies * 
  To:  ALL                                     Date: 11-Aug-95 18:46   

The New York Pipe Club will hold a Swap & pipe Show on September 9, 1995
at the Ramada Hotel - Newark International Airport, from 10:00 AM until
7:00 PM. This is the second event for this club & location in 1995 - the
first was an outstanding event!

Hotel 1-800-223-8285 or direct 1-201-824-4000 ($60 per nite show rate).

Contact Richard Esserman, 238 Aycrigg Ave, Unit D, Passaic NJ 07055 for
information and/or table reservations.

Table rates $40 & $55 until 8/15 ($50 & $70 after 8/15).



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From: ????????????????
Subject: Upside Down Pipe

Dear Steve:
I wonder if the Digest group can help me solve the mystery of the upside down
A friend of mine invented and patented a revolutionary smoking pipe that
lights from the bottom.   A major manufacturer saw the promise and bought the
idea 15 years ago, but it never took off.  My friend got the patent back a
few years ago and we've developed a new rock maple version that we call The
Freedom Smoking Pipe. 
It smokes cool and easy.  A stainless steel screen holds the tobacco and ash
in place - nothing falls out.  No moisture or resin accumulate in the bowl.
 A cork and leather top makes it wind and rain proof.
We had initial success wholsesaling through a well-known distributor.  We
were in about 100 tobacco shops nationwide, and appeared in the Levin
catalog.  Response from our early customers was strong - most loved it, some
hated it.  Then interest dropped off and left us wondering what happened.
We'd be grateful to hear from readers:  Have you heard about The Freedom
Smoking Pipe?  Have you tried it?
Thanks for your help.
Adam Hirshan
The Bartlett Pipe Co.

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From: ?????????????????????????
Subject: New Cigar from Cuba Aliados

The makers of Cuba Aliados cigars, Rolando Reyes Sr. and Jr. are about
to release a new premium line of cigars.  The new line will be called
Puros Indios. The cigars are made in Honduras but are made from
primarily Dominican ligero tobacco will Ecuador wrapppers. There are
several other tobaccos added that offer some wonderful tasting notes
but I have been sworn to secrecy concerning their identity. The cigars
should be availabe initially from Aliados directly,
1-800-348-1412. Its been a long time since I smoked a cigar this
good. The only words I can use are MAGNIFICENT. I thought your readrs
would be interested in this. I will be at the RTDA in Orlando next
week so I should have more info when I return.  Bob Rothberg Cigar
Consultant and Regional Director of the Scotch Malt Whisky Society and
an all around good guy and drinking buddy.  P.S. Let me know what
other info you would like.

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From: ????????????????????? (Brandon Waldo)
Subject: Pipes Digest mailgroup

Hello Steve,

I would like to be added to the list of your digest's recipients.

I have smoked a pipe on and off for about 6 years and am now getting
interested in cigars.  Being such a newbie I am interested in all
information related to the long weed.

One question I had that I would send to the list is:  what are some
brands of Cuban cigars that would be good for a beginner cigar smoker
and are also not very expensive (within reason)?  

Thank you - 

     _______       .-----------------------------.          | /       
     \____  |      |       Brandon T. Waldo      |           X        
     /|   | |      |    ?????????????????????    |       /\ / \       
    | |___| |      |    AMD K5/K6 Development    |         X \/       
    |____/ \|      `-----------------------------'        / \/        
 "Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part
  of your life."     Brooke Shields, demonstrating why she would make
                     a good spokeswoman for an anti-smoking group.

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From: ????????????????????????? (Charles Myers)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #197 - August 3, 1995

        Steve, I have been reading the back issues on the web, it's great
to see how large the group has grown over the years.  Since there are so
many new members I would like to reiterate a few items for the newer
readers.  I am still in search of a Porsche Pipe, if anyone has one to sell
or trade or knows of the whereabouts of one I would appreciate some
information. Naturally I dream of finding one on a table at a flea Market
for five dollars...right next to the shoebox full of Dunhills that the guy
says "take the whole box for twenty bucks"...well a guy can dream can't he.
I am also looking for some Amphora Cesare Borgia which I believe has been
discontinued, if anyone has any to sell or can supply a source I would
appreciate and hopefully reciprocate.
If anyone is interested in trading or selling estate pipes I am interested
in mainly English Pipes in the $20 to $100.00 dollar range. Finally if
there are any Kaywoodie collectors out there I recommend you contact Fred
Loveland at 2605 Albury Ave, Deltona Florida 32138.  He is a knowledgeable
and amiable enthusiast. Thanks  Charles Myers 717 291-3843.  

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From: ???????????????????
Subject:       Thanks/Worst Smoke

Dear Steve,

Thanks very much for entering my subscription to Pipe Digest. The 
directories you attached were also welcome. I saw some names in
the shops/mail order category which I haven't seen in ages, and I'll 
certainly be contacting several.

I've been a cigarette smoker for more years than I care to admit, but 
started with a pipe and still occasionally puff on a briar. My quest 
(unsuccessful thus far, alas) has been for a pipe tobacco so 
absolutely nonpareil that it will get me off the gaspers and back to a 
pipe exclusively. I may find the answer here in cyberspace in the 
pages of Pipe Digest.

Worst Smoke: Back in the early 1970's there was a commercial pipe 
mixture called GT. I think it was flavored with essence of bubble 
gum. Gawdawful stuff!

Looking forward to more of Pipe Digest.

Bruce R. Beaman

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Re: #1(3) Pipes Digest #197 - August 3, 1995

Steve;  J.T. Cooke is a thorough professional.  Outside of Mark Latham's
one-time experience, I can confirm through a number of years' worth of
experience that Jim Cooke is one of our hobby's national treasures.  His only
problem is that he is one person, so he can't make enough pipes to satisfy
would-be wholesale customers (like Sherlock's Haven, which nevertheless
manages to acquire smoked and unsmoked Cooke's from time to time) or do his
wonderful repairs as quickly as we non-rural, neurotic types would like.
 (His other problem is that he works too cheaply, but don't tell him
that...keep them poor and their necks under your foot is, I believe, the
conventional wisdom in that department.)  Anyhow, PD can wholeheartedly
recommend J.T. & D. (his wife, Debbie) Cooke to the subscribers.    Marty

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From: "Ray Bromley (aka DoctorRay)" <????????????????????>
Subject: Teen smoke screen

I agree with your basic sentiments.  Here are my thoughts.
I'm afraid I could not disagree more strongly with the President's 
policy on teen smoking.  Most states already have put into place 
different methods of discouraging the sale of cigarettes to minors.  The 
Wall Street Journal had a full-page article in Tuesday's (I think) issue 
dealing with what state enforcement techniques work and which do not.  
None of those which work have anything to do with the President's 
executive order.

The restrictions the President has ordered fall into two catagories:  
repeating things that states already do (every state prohibits the sale 
of tobacco to minors), or gross violations of the First and Tenth 

Of course, the latter alarm me greatly.  To force someone to create ads 
(to force someone to say something they do no believe), as the 
President's orders do is not just a violation of the First Amendment, 
but is basically confiscation of property (the funds needed to generate 
the ads) without the consent of Congress, and thus violates Article One, 
Section Eight of the Constitution, as well as the Fifth Amendment 
(taking of property without due process of law).

The limitation of print media ads to text is also an obvious violation 
of the First Amendment.  However, courts have upheld limitations on 
commercial speech in the past (in some states, it is illegal to quote 
Bible passages to sell wine, for example).  Still, this is a clear 
violation of the principle of the First Amendment.  Again, tobacco 
companies don't generally advertise in comic books anyway.  We are 
supposed to be comforted by the news that the First Amendment will be 
abrogated only in those periodicals whose minor readership is more than 
15%.  Left out of this "comforting" provision is any clarification of 
who determines the "readership" demographics?  Obviously, this 
regulation will lead to magazines and newspapersl scrutinized by the 
government to see when the demographics of the periodical changes so the 
regulations switch on or off.  Also, is "readership" defined as 
subscriptions going to households with teenagers, even if the minors do 
not read the periodical?  How can readership of street sales be measured 
in an accurate enough way?  The protection of speech is too important to 
limit, especially in any way that gives discretion to bureaucrats.

The argument might be made that speech has already been limited in the 
case of tobacco advertising, since television ads are not allowed.  
However, this is not as clear-cut a First Amendment issue, since the FCC 
regulates television and radio on the principle that the 
electromagnetic-radio spectrum belongs to the public, and thus is in the 
domain of government control.  No such argument can be made about print 

Billboards are a free-speech issue also, but certainly their placement 
is a local, not a Federal issue.  Being a local issue, the President's 
usurption of authority is a violation of the Tenth Amendment (as the 
Supreme Court has already found in a similarly worded law involving gun 

All I see in the Presidents Executive Orders are
1. The usurping of power to the Executive that belongs to Congress (the 
ability to tax), and thus a ignorance of Article One.

2. The abrogation of First Amendment rights.

3. The taking of property without due process (the requirement that 
tobacco companies pay for ads to discourage smoking).

4. The usurping of control of local issues, such as the location of 
cigarette vending machines and billboards, by the Executive branch of 
the Federal government, and thus a violation of the Tenth Amendment 
(unless you are prepared to make the case that billboards and vending 
machines pose a threat to interstate commerce).

5. The expression of the President's view that the paternalistic 
government must raise people's children for them.  Teaching children not 
to smoke and preventing them form doing so is ultimately the job of 
parents.  Even if you believe the parents are not doing a good job, 
there are other ways of dealing with the problem.  We know how poorly 
Federal government regulations with regard to gangs, drugs and guns have 
worked at keeping teenagers away from these dangers.  The cost of these 
rules, in terms of the lost freedoms of non-teenagers, is far to great, 
and the chance of significant success is far too small to back such 
Draconian action.

The government is willing to take away your rights by appealing to your 
concern for children.  Don't worry about the camel's nose coming under 
the tent;  the camel is in your tent, defecating on your shoes!  
-Ray [:-?                   | Dr. Ray Bromley (Ph.D.), Phoenix College
aka ?????????????????       |  1202 West Thomas Rd., Phoenix AZ 85301
aka ????????????????????    |     aka ??????????????????????????? 
"The pipe smoker has an obsession all his own. 'Consider well; as soon 
as one you choose, you will be tempted by all others too.'"
                                       -Verdaguer, quoting De Palacio

-Ray [:-?                   | Dr. Ray Bromley (Ph.D.), Phoenix College
aka ?????????????????       |  1202 West Thomas Rd., Phoenix AZ 85301
aka ????????????????????    |     aka ??????????????????????????? 
"The pipe smoker has an obsession all his own. 'Consider well; as soon 
as one you choose, you will be tempted by all others too.'"
                                       -Verdaguer, quoting De Palacio

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From: ??????????????
Subject: SMOKE Magazine

Dear Steve:

Here's the word on a new cigar & pipe magazine that will debut in December,
1995. It's a big (first issue over 100 pages), full-color glossy and will be
available at tobacco shops or on the newsstand. It'll have a lot more flair
and a lot more fun than you know who!

\smok\ n: a fun, contemporary magazine geared to the up-and-coming executive
from the ages of 25-38 who are interested in cigars and the lifestyle
surrounding them.

Lockwood Trade Journal is proud to announce the introduction of its newest
magazine SMOKE, which continues over a century-long history of publishing,
and is the final piece of Lockwood's tobacco-related trilogy. With magazines
currently covering the manufacturing and retail side of the tobacco industry,
SMOKE will appeal directly to the consumer. 

SMOKE is a lifestyle-orientated magazine, emphasizing cigars, pipes, and
life's other burning desires. Appearing quarterly, each issue will contain
innovative, contemporary departments, features, and columns geared to the
young executive.

Founded in 1872, Lockwood Trade Journal Co., Inc. has been a family-run
entity since its inception. Presently, fifth generation Lockwood brothers run
the company, and the 6th generation has entered the family business. Lockwood
publishes three trade magazines: TOBACCO INTERNATIONAL, established in 1886;
SMOKESHOP, established in 1970; and the TEA & COFFEE TRADE JOURNAL
established in 1902. 

With SMOKE, Lockwood makes its first, well-researched and supported venture
into the consumer arena.  Through TOBACCO INTERNATIONAL and SMOKESHOP,
Lockwood has a long-standing relationship with the cigar and pipe
manufacturers, as well as the retail tobacconists. The tobacco industry has
given its wholehearted support to SMOKE and its premiere issue.

Launched amid the resurgence of the cigar, SMOKE focuses on the world of the
young, energetic cigar smoker. Distinctively a lifestyle magazine, SMOKE's
vitality is truly cosmopolitan, with creative editorial and design linking
each universe of today's cigar enthusiast to one publication. Speaking to a
wider audience than simply cigar smokers, SMOKE takes the reader on an
entertaining journey to cigar parties, celebrity humidors, Jazz clubs,
unconventional travel locals, and gallery openings while filling the reader
with intelligent insights and new perspectives. 

SMOKE will be published four times a year: Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall. Each
issue will have:

A high-energy News Department consisting of bits and pieces of exciting
items, as well as incorporating world and U.S. events; a Q & A section
featuring a prominent cigar smoker; Two Reoccurring Columns -- one
cigar-related and one non-related; the Cover Story; a Cigar-related story; a
Pipe-related story; an Automotive article incorporating a fun, affordable
vehicle; a Sports article, utilizing non-traditional sports; a Travel
article;  a Wine and Sprits article, featuring different a spirit in every
issue; an Internet article, with a look inside the internet cigar rooms; a
Collectibles piece, featuring unique products and many photos; an Investment
article, lots of details but not too upscale; a list of select tobacco
retailers worldwide; a Fashion shoot, incorporating cigars and fashion; and a
two-page themed comic.

Each issue will also contain the Cigar Review,  not a rating by numbers, but
rather an evaluation by independent cigar enthusiasts speaking in layman's
terms. There will be twenty panelists broken down into four panels of five
people. The panel will consist of industry executives, retailers, and

Each panel will review five different brands of one cigar size. So in each
issue, twenty brands from different countries in four different sizes will be
reviewed. Over the course of three months, each panel member will sample five
cigars of each brand. Thus, a fair and unbiased opinion based on random
smoking over time will be presented. 

The Cigar Review, coupled with timely, intriguing articles, will place SMOKE
on the forefront of the cigar world. 

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Birchall's

Dear Steve:

Here's an item that recently came across my desk from the British Trade
Office, British Consulate-General in New York, and thought others might be
interested or at least for the guide:

Pipe Smoker's Dream

A mail-order service offered by a specialist tobacconist ln Britain,
Birchall's of Blackpool continues the tradition of supplying quality pipes
and original tobacco blends for pipe smokers. Specializing in loose tobaccos,
the company has an extensive range of mixtures from the new CONNOISSEUR
collection including blends flavored with fruits and honey to the mixtures,
such as GOVERNOR'S FLAKE, made using the original blends of 1834. Whether
twist, flake, shag, or mixtures, the company can supply tobacco to suit
tastes from traditional to modern aromatic and American blends. Birchall's
also otfers hand-crafted pipes to specialist designs, and will help select a
suitable pipe, taking into account size, shape, and design.

In addition to the company's products, major brands and a full range of
smokers' accessories also are available by mail order.

A mail-order catalogue, with trading terms, is available by mail or fax.
Inquiries may be sent directly to the company: Birchall's of Blackpool Ltd.
(Contact: Paul Parkinson), The Pipe Shop, 14 Talbot Road, Blackpool,
Lancashire, England FYl lLF. Tel: (44)(253) 24218; Fax: (44)(253) 291659.

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From: ???????????????????????? (Steve Masticola)
Subject: Letter to Clinton

To: ????????????????????????
Subject: FDA nicotine regulation

					[ My home address deleted ]
					August 16, 1995

President William J. Clinton
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washington, DC

Mr. President:

	As a moderate and considerate pipe smoker of more than twenty
years' standing, and as the leader of the 1300-member Internet Pipes
Digest, I view with alarm and regret your decision to allow the FDA to
regulate nicotine as a drug.  The stated reason of a "teen smoking
epidemic" is simply not supported by available evidence, which shows
that smoking by teenagers has declined every year since 1985.  I fear
that your decision will further replace personal responsibility with
Government control, and is yet another step toward a de facto
prohibition of tobacco in the United States.

	I urge you to state, publicly and for the record, that the
right of American citizens to smoke in peace will not be infringed.


					Stephen P. Masticola, Ph.D.
					Moderator, Internet Pipes Mailgroup

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From: ??????????????? (MICHAEL R.STANLEY)
Subject: Havanas in Niagra Falls

 Hello Fellow Cigar Smokers;

 I just got back from Niagra Falls and thought you might be interested in a
small cigar store that I don't see in the database. The store is Gordon's
Cigars & Pipes. I've been travelling to Niagra for the last three years and
each year the selection of Havanas has gotten better. This year,a walk in
humidor has replaced the glass counters. I of course don't bring Havanas
into the U.S. I,of course,don't even puchase the fine product of that
terrible threat to the national security of the U.S.A little Communist
island.Thanks to the Late President Kennedy : [ that's against the law.
But;anyone who does will find a really large selection of just about every
Cuban brand I've heard of. I could have purchased Partagas Lucitanias at
$19.50 U.S,R&J Churchills(tubed) at $15.60
and I could have purchased Bolivar coronas at $8.45 U.S. Any size of
Cohiba,Montis(including the pryamid) and a large selection of Partagas,LGC
and Romeo&Julietta ,which would be my personal favorite,if I smoked
Cubans,were in good supply. Just thought you all might like to know!
     I could have had a really great time watching the Browns roll over the
Bears while sipping a great  Labatts Blue and smoking a Cohiba
Esplendito,(why are they sooooo smooth?) ...If that was'nt against the law!
     Smoke em while you've got'em.

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From: ??????????????? (MICHAEL R.STANLEY)
Subject: Havanas in Niagra Falls

Left out of my monologue on Gordon's Cigars was the address:
            Gordon's Cigars&Pipes
            5680 Ferry St.
            Niagra Falls,Ontario
            Canada L2G 1S9  phone:905-358-7425

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From: ??????????????
Subject: My worst smoke...

Sorry I am an issue late with this but I've been away for a while.

 The worst cigar I can remember having was a Las Cabrillas robusto
(Hondouran). The pull was easy but it was hot from the beginning.
Additionally, It burned very unevenly and the taste was beyond putrid. Save
your money on this one.

ALSO:   ....Please help!

I am looking for information on where Por Larranaga cigars are manufactured.
A new Cigar Shop in San Jose, CA is very interested in finding out where to
purchase them for retail sale. I also am interested as I am fond of these
cigars (especially the robusto) and would love to have them available.

Any information, such as an address, name of the manufacturer, etc. would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks and happy smoking to all!

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Contribution

I have enjoyed PD for a few months now and want to thank you for the work you
do on it. I makes for a nice, quick, informed Saturday night read.

I recently had an interesting experience I wanted to relate and get some
input on. After a recent dinner at a fine restaurant in a major US city, the
car hop noticed my unlit Te-Amo in my mouth and asked if I was a cigar smoker
(I liken this to when I am asked if my IDENTICAL twin boys are twins!). I
answered a very jovial "yes" and the car hop asked me if I wanted to buy some

I am obviously a loyal American and want to avoid the issues surrounding the
embargo, but I answered this aggressive car hop that so much counterfeiting
of Cubans was going on that I was very sceptical he could ever have the real
thing. He said that the "Congressman" who was supposed to buy them didn't
show up and he wanted to get rid of them. After a bit more repartee, I walked
over to his white, 1978 Caprice. Inside was a Zip-loc bag with a wet paper
towel in it and a box that read Montecristo.

I was still sceptical. He wanted $100 and they are, of course, illegal. Not
to mention they could have be garbage. The question is, how do you know?

If it ever happens again, how will I know a fake from the real thing? Just by
smoking? Any reader response would be welcome.

Again, great job.  My best, Greg (???????????????)

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From: Kenneth Creta~ <???????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest Page

Hi Steve,

Seems that I can't get to the Pipes Digest page right now.  I used tohave
no problem and I was wondering if something on your end was down.

The reason I tried there is because I had a question.  This is for you
personally OR the Digest if you think they can give me more insight.

I smoked my pipe (I'm a new pipe smoker ... for that matter, ANY tobacco) the
other night and I got sick as a dog.  I could barely walk after smoking a
pipe full.  Sitting you don't realize this till you get up.

Anyway, what happened?

I called the tobacco shop where I bought my pipe and he said I must have
inhaled.  I can tell you that if I inhale the smoke (at all), I start coughing
like crazy.  So I don't think that was it.  Sure it's in the air but enough
to make me sick?

However, here's what I think it was.  He told me that a typical smoke is about
a puff every 30 or so seconds.  I can tell you that in my effort to keep it
lit, I was going about every 5.  I could not hold the pipe by the bowl as it
was too hot.  Does this sound like the problem?  If so, the FAQs should mention
this :)

 Intel, Corp.
 5000 W. Chandler Blvd.
 Chandler, AZ  85226

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From: ?????????????? (JOHN NAVROTH)
Subject: Quest: Dutch Comfort

This is my first posting.  Didn't notice a different posting address in the
intro material, so I'm going to this one.  Correct me if I'm wrong. PD looks
like a great gang of people.  I've been seeking a resource such as this for
quite a while.

I pose a question for pipe smokers: around the mid-seventies at Old Town
Mall in Torrance, CA there was a shop called Bob's Pipe 'n Pouch.  It was
there I purchased my first pipe and tobacco.  Among the batch of several I
went home with to try was one called "Dutch Comfort".  Well, Bob's stayed in
business at this location for about another year, I guess.  One fateful day,
I went for my refill and the store was gone!  I believe they moved to parts
south, but well out of the range I was willing to drive for mere pipe
tobacco (if I only knew then...).  Dutch Comfort was a great cavendish blend
with an aroma that for me was incomparable to anything I smoked then or since.

About ten or so years later, still on my quest for the perfect pipe tobacco,
I decided to ask the proprietor of Smokers Emporium (in Torrance also) about
Dutch Comfort.  She was extremely well-versed in tobacoo blending and when I
asked, she thought for a second and said: "oh yes, that was blended with a
special Troost blend and a little maduro".  Well, apparantly the Troost
blend was no longer being made, so she tried a blend of another pair of
Troost pouch tobacs with a little Maduro.  The result was vaguely familiar,
but not like I expected. Personally, I think it had a casing of something
else as well.

I know that tobacco names do not always run concurrent through different
areas of the country, etc., but I'd like to know from anyone if they have
heard of a blend like this and who makes it.


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From: ????????????????
Subject: PIPES

I would like to request permission to be included in the PIPES mailing list.
I am mainly interested in cigars, but when I saw the part about collectible
tobacciana I got even more excited. I have been looking for an old Wells
Fargo spitoon for years. Besides cigars I also dip and have a chew once in a
while. What can I say, I played ball for 10 years. I am glad this mailing
list is here and I am excited to see what it is like

Mike Valentine

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                       Today's Snappy Comeback:

"How ironic... I lit this to keep you away."

                                - From "101 Ways to Answer the
                                  Question, 'Would You Please Put Out
                                  that #(!&*!$ Cigar'," Hague et. al.,

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Re: #3(3) Pipes Digest #197 -...
  2. Subject: Twin Cities Tobacconist
  3. Subject: One for the digest
  4. Subject: Re: Worst Smoke
  5. Subject: Re: #1(3) Pipes Digest #197 - August 3, 1995
  6. Subject: Re: #1(4) Re: Fwd: tobak
  7. Subject: Pipe Digest
  8. Subject: Need value of tobacco box (also for sale)
  9. Subject: Re: C. S. Lewis Pipe
  10. Subject: Re: Moderated mailgroup for cigars, pipes, fine tobacco
  11. Subject: Smoke Signal #18 [PIPE]
  12. Subject: My Introduction
  13. Subject: For PD: Tobacco Arcanae
  14. Subject: Visit to Sparta Industries
  15. Subject: Re: Worst Smoke
  16. Subject: A question
  17. Subject: Question
  18. Subject: PIPES DIGEST #197 - AUGUST 3, 1995
  19. Subject: Beginning pipe smoker needs advice
  20. Subject: Christmas Pipe
  21. Subject: L.L. Bean Pipes & Tobacco
  22. Subject: .!.
  23. Subject: Clay Tobacco Pipes
  24. Subject: introduction
  25. Subject: John David, Ltd.
  26. Subject: i appologIZE
  27. Subject: PD
  28. Subject: FYI
  29. Subject: Upside Down Pipe
  30. Subject: New Cigar from Cuba Aliados
  31. Subject: Pipes Digest mailgroup
  32. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #197 - August 3, 1995
  33. Subject: Thanks/Worst Smoke
  34. Subject: Re: #1(3) Pipes Digest #197 - August 3, 1995
  35. Subject: Teen smoke screen
  36. Subject: SMOKE Magazine
  37. Subject: Birchall's
  38. Subject: Letter to Clinton
  39. Subject: FDA nicotine regulation
  40. Subject: Havanas in Niagra Falls
  41. Subject: Havanas in Niagra Falls
  42. Subject: My worst smoke...
  43. Subject: Contribution
  44. Subject: Pipes Digest Page
  45. Subject: Quest: Dutch Comfort
  46. Subject: PIPES
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