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Subject: Pipes Digest #199 -- September 5, 1995

		Pipes Digest #199 -- September 5, 1995
	     Copyright (C) 1995 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 1357

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[ADMIN] For the next two or three weeks, there will be not a peep from
the Digest.  Yr. Moderator will, as of September 9, have tied the knot
with his best sweetie, Jeanette Catherine LaRosa.  Thereafter, for a
short time, we will concern ourselves with neither the pressures of
paid labor, nor the more pleasant diversions of moderatorship!  (I
will, however, take a favorite pipe or nineteen along, and smoke 'em
as other husbandly duties permit :-)

We will, however, be back as soon as is reasonably possible after
that. (And, BTW, if you feel so inclined, Jean [who is a beautiful,
intelligent, and tolerant nonsmoker] would probably enjoy a word of
either congratulations or caution, as you see fit; :-) her address is

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From: ????????????? (Antti Kalliokoski)
Subject: pipe, war and peace

Greetings from Lapland to all the subscribers of P.D.

I returned from my annual 3 weeks' wandering in the wildernesses of Lapland. 
There were more mosquitoes than ever, but trout was biting eagerly and the 
line was often tight.

This time I had plenty of tobacco with me. I enjoyed "Early Morning Pipe" 
and every now and then Mac Baren's "Virginia no 1". Had cozy hours at the 
camp fire staking fish and puffing pipe. My mind wandered freely and so I 
remembered an episode about my father in the Finnish-Soviet Winter war in 
1939-1940. My father did not tell this to me, I heard it much later from a 
man, who had participated in the war.

Father was at the time an officer (captain) in the Finnish army and a sworn 
pipe smoker.
He was pointing his men to a direction to move with his dear Dunhill in hand 
when a light Soviet machine gun begun to fire ( with internationally banned 
exploding bullets) from the distance of 50 yards cutting his pointing right  
hand loose from the shoulder. Naturally my old man fell down and lost 
consciousness. He recovered consciousness when being put in sleigh. His 
first words were:" Where is the pipe? You damned, you'll not take me 
anywhere without my pipe !" The pipe was then found and the journey to the 
first aid station through the hard crust of snow began.

Thank God those blood-stained  times are past and gone in this northern 
corner of Europe. The problems lie now in the South-Eastern Europe.

The habit of smoking pipe seems to be a family tradition even with us. 
Grandpa smoked pipe and my brother, too. I remember that this question of 
learning the habit of smoking pipe has once been a theme in the P.D.

So, smoke in peace!

With loaded batteries back to work at the university.

	Antti Kalliokoski (?????????????)

[ Rare devotion, Antti, even among pipesmokers! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????? (Michael Cherry)
Subject: Carey Magic inch

I ran across an old pipe that I had purchased 20 years ago. It was made by 
the Carey Pipe Co. It was sort of a gimmick, in that, it had a vent in the 
stem to cool the smoke (venturi effect)and had paper sleeves inside the stem 
to help slow down the air intake. 

My questions are, does the company still exist and if so what is there
address ?

If not, does anyone know if the paper sleeves are still available anywhere?

[ I have an address and number for Carey's Smokeshop in the Guide,
Michael; it's 800-99-BRIAR. Don't know if they're the same. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????? (Paul J. Ste. Marie)
Subject: Broken calabash insert

>Where can I order replacements for the meerschaum bowl?

I'd give CAO a try. Don't have a phone number, unfortunately.

>Are such bowls poured as slip into a mold or are they carved from
solid blocks? 

It depends.  Most of them are pressed from meerschaum bits with a vegatable 
gum binder, but CAO does make ones with solid block inserts.  It took me 
quite some time to find such a calabash, however.  My understanding is that 
CAO is no longer making plain ones with the solid block inserts--they only 
have ones with more ornately carved inserts and/or a shammy-covered calabash 

>If the former, can I purchase a mold and meerschaum 
>clay slip?  If the latter, can I purchase the blocks?

Beats me, but I'd be interested to hear what you find out.

        --Paul J. Ste. Marie, ??????????????????????, ???????????????????

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From: Cheryl Bray <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Olde World Fine Clays

Hi Steve!
		Wow! I thought I dropped you a personal note. Oh well
I've had lots of notes inquiring about my brother the
pipemaker. Anyway, I should probably give you the mailing address for
Olde World Fine Clays. I don't mind answering inquiries but I'll
include the mailing address too for those who would like to call

	Here it is.

	Stephen Bray
	Olde World Fine Clays
	249 South St.
	Glace Bay, 
	Nova Scotia,
	B1A 1W6
	(902) 562-0012

I wasn't sure if I told you what particular reproductions he has at this 
time so, I'll tell you now. 

		18th Century Dutch 11"
		18th Century English Tavern Pipe 16"
		19th Century English pipe. It is short I think it 8 or 9" 

Steve is away until next week so I couldn't get exact details

	He is working on a 36" Yard of Clay and another dutch reproduction.

[ Many members have been interested in finding clays; glad to finally
have a good resource! -S. ]

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From: stephen thomas <?????????????????????>
Subject:      Re: Pipes Digest #198 - August 23, 1995

I have just finished reading my first PD.  I seem to have found a lot
of like-m inded souls among the PD readers.

I may be repeating a request for information that others have
posted--please fo rgive me if I do.  I'm searching for a replacement
for Cravens Mixture pipe tob acco.  I was introduced to it in London
in 1990 at a pipe shop near Covent Gard en and the theatre district (I
don't recall its name) where I purchased my firs t Ashton.  Until
perhaps a little over a year ago, I had been purchasing Craven s from
a Louisville, KY, pipe shop.  However, I was informed that the mixture
i s not longer being manufactured in England or anywhere else.  Does
anyone on th is net know if this is accurate.  If so, where can find a
similar replacement?  I tried a blend recommended by a Texax
smokeshop, but was disappointed.  It doesn't taste at all like the

By way of introduction, I have been smoking for 32 years, since I was
14, but did not become a "full-time" pipe smoker until I was in
college.  I worked for nine years in a smokeshop in Lexington, KY,
while I was in graduate school, whe re I became a collector of fine
pipes and a dedicated cigar smoker (how could I avoid it--I had a
walk-in humidor full of cigars to indulge in).  I mainly collect
pre-1970 Dunhills, of which I own seven (I only buy one or two a year)
and I, too, am still looking for that shoebox of Dunhills for only 20
bucks.  I also own top-of-the-line Savinellis, Ashtons, Tilsheads, but
restrict myself to English-made briar collecting currently.  Has
anyone had any experience buying/collecting in England.  Every time
I'm over there I look for secondhand pipes but haven't had any luck.
I must be looking in the wrong places.

Reply to Mark Cox: Whoever sold you that corncopb isn't much of a
sales- person.  At my old shop, we recommended the best briar that the
buyer could afford.  After all, a briar will last a lifetime if taken
care of.  And the bette r the briar, the better the smoke.  I'd have
recommended a medium priced Savine lli.  Look around for a top quality
second-hand briar that's been well-cleaned and invest in it if you
want to try a really fine pipe.  Reply to Professor Kouni: I, too,
know Skip's shop in Birmingham.  I try to go there whenever I'm in the
city visiting a friend who is also a pipe smoker and collector.

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From: "Kapolka(23);" <????????????????????>
Subject: PD

I would be very interested if anyone knows of a tobacco blend very 
similar to Dunhill's American Mixture, which stopped being available in 
the late seventies.  Thank you.

[ Craig? -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????? (Martin Golding)
Subject: Re: Hookahs

> I can't remember this being addressed here, so I'll bring it up: Any hookah
> smokers? 

Me! Me! I don't use it much, but it always gets a workout at our annual
goat roast, when there are convenient piles of charcoal.

> I am the proud if somewhat ambivalent owner of a lovely "4-seater"
> and could use some hints on how and what to smoke. 

Partially fill the bottle with water. I've been informed that it's traditional
to add a shot of arrak (if you imagine ouzo as a gentle, civilized tipple,
arrak would be its primitive and brutal ancestor).

Crumble dried whole-leaf tobacco, soak it in water for a few minutes, and 
pile it in the bowl. Top with three or four pieces of burning charcoal.
It'll smoke for hours, if you keep the charcoal stoked (which is why I wait
for the goat roast).

Since you're in Portland, you'll be glad to know the International Food
Bazaar, 929 SW 9th, carries the correct tobacco (and single hose hookahs).
For those in less civilized areas, check middle eastern and Persian
grocery stores.


[ BTW, congrats on the 4-seater! Enjoy, with three friends! And never
mix ouzo with water. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Re: What Happened?

I hope that your computer enjoyed it's meal.  Looking forward to your new
hard drive and more of the digest.
P.S. In your header I see Volvo as part of your address.  Do you work for
Volvo?  Or are you a member of VCOA and the VCOA digest?  I've got a '93
850GLT!!!  I love it.

[ Cockpit is back up, with a new Quantum HD to replace the frotzed
Western Digital, and a better backup system under Linux so that
Yr. Moderator hopefully won't have to spend two weeks rebuilding the
bl**dy thing if it ever happens again. And nah; the Siemens
workstations are all named after cars.  Well, mostly. Actually, I'd
have preferred a Porsche, or even a good big F150.  Well, okay,
anything with a flat bed for lumber and a place for the new Peterson
full-bent estate shell briar to repose.  Welcome, Rob!  -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: Cigars and The President


This is my first posting, I really enjoy PD. 

I smoke cigars and have been for the last 22 years, ouch! Avos are a
favorite. A Hoya De Monterey Rothschild is kinda my default setting, not to
expensive, still a little to butch, but hey get over it (used go for the
maduro wrapper, but have switched to naturals in my old age). Had a Cuban
Cohiba once but didn't think it was worth the trouble. It was good but come
on it wasn't that good. 

I'm on a quest for the ultimate cheap cigar. The specs are under 2 bucks,
fatish like a high 40 to 50, length is not much of an issue. Smoothness is a
prime consideration--AVOs being the model. OK ladies and gentlemen you have
been briefed.  

An on a more serious note: I've got to say that I'm in complete agreement
with the President. The American tobacco industry needs to be policed. Much
of thier advertising is aimed directly at kids and this is wrong. We all
know what effects inhaling cigarette smoke has on the human body, so let's
be realistic. And then there are those additives, not good, very bad. I've
smoked quite a few Camel straights and Gauloise in my time (really is there
anything better than one of these and an espresso and the New York Times)
but I'm not compulsive about it and I'm also an adult who is not physically
addicted to nicotine (I probably am addicted to my trips to the Cigar Store
and to yacking on the phone with the nice folks at Mike's Cigars). I have
many problems with our Goverment but I've got to say that I distrust big
corporations more. They all aren't bad but the system doesn't exactly
promote social responsibility.  

Robin Willis

[ Well, Robin, thanks for your comments.  Many of us, though, are
concerned that Big Government is moving slowly and steadily toward
prohibition, including a ban on your trips to the cigar store, and
that the cigarette companies (though definitely not saints) are being
systematically demonized, toward that end.  I certainly hope not,
though I fear so.  Watch this space for details. -S. ]

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From: Andy Wallace <??????????????>
Subject: Re: Address change request for Pipes Digest

Thanks for the quick response, Steve. By the way, I stopped into the
Pipe and Book store in  Lake Placid, NY. Nice store...but unfortunately
the owner is biased against Falcons. I still spent some money on 
a tobacco sampler and a $25 mini Savinelli. The bookstore part is 
nice, too -- they also have many old tobacco books. 


Will post a longer review if I can find the time!

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: For you and your readers

Dear Steve,
I enjoy the comments of the people in your pipe digest. I usually read it in
the evenings after work while smoking my pipe or favorite cigar. It seems
smoking and the internet go well together. I have to take the time to stop
typing to relight my pipe or tamp the coals down (Yes, I still need more than
one match!). Anyways, I noticed our 4 retail outlets were not listed in your
latest guide. For informational purposes to you and your readers, I've listed
our stores below to be included in the pipe digest guide. Thank you for
providing your guide to us all.
Pleasent smoking,  ;-)=o
Berge, Tobacco Barns of Virginia
Vice President: Gary Pesh
General Manager: John Boyd

>e-mail: ?????????????????
>phone: 1-800-999-6882 
>Mail Order Manager: Mark Schroepfer

Tobacco Barns
Pentagon City Fashion Center
Arlington, VA  22202
Phone: 703-415-5554
Contact: Jim Kosch, Manager

Tobacco Barns
7-Corners Center
Falls Church, VA 22044
Phone: 703-536-5588
Contact: Mark Schroepfer, Manager

Tobacco Barns
Springfield Mall
Springfield, VA 22150
Phone: 703-971-1933
Contact: John Boyd, General Manager

Tobacco Barns
Manassas Mall
Manassas, VA 22110
Phone: 703-330-9753
Contact: John Coruzzolo, General Manager

[ I'll list the main number; actually, I'm getting a little concerned
about the length of the Guide, which grows but has never
shrunken. -S. ] 

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From: ????????????????
Subject: pipe making

just started enjoying pipes/fine cigars... want to make pipes/ a humidor ....

[ See the later word about Pimo's, re pipemaking. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Death of a Smoke Shop

Hi Steve & Pipe Fans,

Here in Bangor, Maine we witnessed the death of a smoke shop.  The owner of
the business wrote of its closing in a recent  Pipes Digest.  I feel inclined
to share with the members of this group some personal observations regarding
the operation and ultimate demise of this shop.  I first learned of "The
Sundries Shop" via a local TV commercial.  I visited the shop and introduced
myself as a fellow PD member and avid pipe smoker of 19 years.  The owner was
a genuinely pleasant and cordial young man.  However, my first impression
upon leaving the shop was that this business was not long for this world.  

Even though the grand opening was a few weeks earlier, the store had a very
unkempt appearance inside.  Trash was piled up next to the counter, there was
a bucket of hand tools sitting next to the trash, and unhung paintings and
pictures were leaning against the walls.  

The smoking area of the business was poorly stocked in the beginning.
 Although the inventory did improve over the months, it didn't start out
properly.  Cigar smokers had more to choose from than pipe smokers.  There
were several tinned tobaccos available, but little in the way of pipes that
would be of interest.  The local drugstores had more to offer - and they
strictly carry the low-end pipes.  Four bulk tobaccos were available, again
the local drugstores carry comparable products.

The owner told me that he couldn't seem to locate suppliers for certain
product lines, e.g. Peterson pipes.  He even wrote of this problem a few
months ago in the PD.  Why he didn't research this BEFORE he signed the lease
and opened up I'll never know!  I told him that he could find this info by
talking to other smoke shops (in the Resource Guide) or by contacting the

The owner had not visited or even known of some of the smoke shops here in
thinly-populated Maine.  This would have been helpful because he had no
previous working experience in a smoke shop.  He had worked for Cutlery World
and Coffee Express prior to starting this business.

This business lacked a focus.  It tried to offer too much.  It sold tobacco,
inexpensive pipes, cigars, Swiss Army knives, cutlery and kitchen utensils,
beer steins, dart boards, T-shirts, paintings, crafts, candles, coin purses,
etc.  It had dart throwing lanes.  In addition, it offered underarm
antiperspirants (perhaps for the occasional patron of the little hotel next

The owner's knowledge of cigars and pipes was quite limited.  What he did
know was very recently obtained.  I suspect that he had hopped on the cigar
train just a few stops back.  (We were all new to this at one time.)  

My wife, who is a professor of international business, told me that his
business failed because he wasn't in business properly.  She would like to
have seen his business plan before he opened up.  

After six months or so in business, the owner sold everything at cost.  I
spent hundreds of dollars there in the last few days he was open.  But
instead of getting some nice bargains on cigars now, I would rather have a
viable, downtown smoke shop to visit for years to come.

The owner is now looking for work.  I hope something comes along
really soon. He said that he plans to operate a tobacco mail-order
business (in his spare time.)  He hopes to get the word out through
computer bulletin boards and the like.  It'll be tougher than he
thinks (in price, selection, and experience.)  I do wish him good
luck.  He's a nice man.

Perhaps this helps those readers who may have a dream of opening a smoke
shop.  It's good to dream.  There are many success stories of people who took
risks in business.  But do your homework.

James Lawson (??????????????????)

[ Well put.  We'd like to see more shops -- succeed. -S. ]

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From: Joachim Posegga <??????????????????>
Subject: For Digest: Pipe shops in Vienna

Dear all,

can anyone recommend a pipe shop in Vienna, Austria? I'll be there for
a couple of days in late September.  I searched the old issues, but I
did not find a concrete Address.

Thanks for your help,


PS: If anyone should happen to visit Darmstadt, Germany (close to
Frankfurt): From the square in the very center of the pedestrian area,
leave the square in direction of the main station. You will find two
pipe shops on the left hand side. The second one sells Ingo Garbe
pipes (quite hard to get). The first one looks good from outside as
well, but I did not have time to visit it.

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From: Heidi Marie Schmidt <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #198 - August 23, 1995

Hello Steve!!!
	After lurking since the last few PD's, I've decided to actually 
say something.  My name is Kuan and I'm a 27 year old pipe smoker.  I've 
been smoking for about a year and I own 4 pipes.  I live in Champaign, IL 
and Jon's pipe shop is the only one around for miles.  I think I've seen 
it on the PD list of Tobacco shops.
	That's really all I have to say at the moment.  Thanks Steve for 
doing such a great job with PD!!


[ Welcome, Kuan! Jon's is, from all accounts, a most excellent
shop. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????????????? (Dwayne Lively)
Subject: Pipes and Cigars

Steve, et al.

Well, I'm once again settled down here at Ole Miss and this has given me the
chance to sneak up to Memphis and patronize my favorite tobacco shop. The
Tobacco Corner, Ltd. looks to have been around a while and has a good
selection of pipes, pens (the entire center of the store is writing
implements) and cigars. In fact, Elliot, the owner, recently received a huge
shipment of Arturo Fuentes I'm sure has already disappeared. He says they
move so fast, he doesn't even recommend them anymore. The store also
contains a good selection of Pipe Tobak, but the best are Elliot's
homeblends. My favorite so far is his Lord Elliot Balkan, which is a good
knock-off of Balkan Sobranie. There are usually two or three men sitting at
a table near the back smoking pipes or cigars and chatting about their kids
or the news. The store is also attached to a good sized newsstand. Elliot
himself is quite a character--he puts his own picture on the store's
matchboxes--but he's very helpful to newcomers and more than happy to share
a bit of his personal blends. Pens, Pipes, Cigars and Magazines--if Elliot
only served Coffee, the place would be perfect.

For inclusion in the directory, the pertinent info is as follows:

Tobacco Corner, Ltd.
669 South Mendenhall
Memphis, TN 38177
(901) 682-3326

The matchboxes, btw, indicate that they have a pipe repair service and will
mail anywhere, but I have yet to test either of these. If you're in Memphis,
drop by. 

In other news I'm heading up to Memphis on September 14 to attend the
Peabody Hotel's first ever Cigar Dinner. The Peabody is posh, so this should
be quite a night, even at only $75 per person. For this we get to sample
unreleased Dutch cigars from Hajenius Cigars (which I take to be the shop,
not the brand) and get to partake of a six course meal from Master Chef Jose
Gutierrez--who I've actually heard of, and nine different reserve wines from
Clos Du Val. It sounds like it's going to be a real treat. I promise I'll
have a detailed report of the night, including my opinions on the cigars, in
an upcoming issue. If any one wants more info, email me at the above and
below address.

Until then, keep smoking, but only the good stuff.


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From: Joel Timmins <?????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest request


Would you please add me to the mailing list for Pipes Digest?  I've  
read a few of the digests off the Wine forum on CompuServe, and  
consistently enjoy it.

I am 23 years old and started smoking cigars approximately one year ago  
after stumbling into the Wine/Cigar forum on CompuServe.  After smoking  
cigars for a couple of months, I found myself continually drifting  
towards the pipes and related supplies at the local store.  I  
eventually bought a corn cob and some of the house tobacco, and gave it  
a shot.  I used more matches in 30 minutes with that pipe than I  
dreamed would be possible (not that I fantasize about playing with  
matches <g>).  Despite this, I thought it to be a worthwhile endeavor,  
and continued with the new found pleasure.

I currently own a couple of good pipes (Peterson and Ser Jacopo) and a  
few bargain basket pipes.  I still tend to use the cheaper pipes, as I  
have concerns of ruining the better two.  Actually, I still haven't  
smoked my favorite.  Some day I'll convince myself I'm ready, I  
suppose.  In the realm of tobacco, I'm primarily smoking Bob Hamlin's  
PCCA Collectors Reserve blends.  At this point, my favorite is Equinox,  
but I have more to try.

Eventually, I'll figure out how to keep the pipe going without using a  
8 matches.  At this point, however, the thought of using just 2 matches  
for an entire bowl is beyond my imaginative powers.

Thanks Steve.

Joel Timmins 
< ???????????????????????????? >

[ Has anyone ever gotten by with ZERO matches?  And no lighter? -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Subscription, etc

Steve, thanks for offering this service.

if you would, please switch over my subscription to my davidson address:
?????????????????? [ i'm back in school and it costs me nothing... sorry to
make others feel jealous]

Worst smoke: tie: in high school tried smoking cigarettes[  bleah..], even
worse was the kind of cigarette: a Capri.  My less tolerant and unguided
friends asked if i was gay, which I am not, but I don't think a tobacco
preference has anything to do with sexuality....  I guess  they thought it
was a "girl thing."  That lasted all of 10 cigarettes... I tried to give it a

the other worst smoke was a batch of a great blend that i erroneously thought
had been sealed back up in the pouch, but had dried to the point of paper's
consistency.  it was like smoking my term papers. [ which has crossed my
collegiate mind several times]

great smoke story: two other fraternity brothers and i were in KC last year
outside an uptown mall area there, had all just bought great cigar's from the
local tobacconist, and were lighting up outside.  We had about an hour of
fun, talking and making fun of the kids playing in the fountain, and
discussing our futures.  Great memory of a fun trip.

One pipe shop, I can't remember if it's in the resources, but Charlotte has a
great tobacconist's shop, called McCranie's Pipe Shop.  704-523-8554 Located
at Park Road Shopping Center no idea on the physical address or zip, but they
do mail order and have a great selection of cigars and also many estate
pipes...  i was amazed at the type of establishment it is, there is a "bar"
area, where you can sample the blends, sit down and puff away... old man
mccranie is sometimes there and tells wonderful stories...

I've been smoking around three years [ pipes and cigars that is, quit
cigarettes soon after i started], and have enjoyed grading math papers over
my stanwell apple, or a fun night at Phi Gamma Delta with my bulldog [ it is
a secord i got years ago].

Last story.  I started smoking to begn with b/c i remember the wonderful
aroma that surrounded my father's office, as Dad used to smoke a pipe, as did
his other English dept. prof's at Atlantic Christian College [ now Barton ].
 That's one of my few memories of my dad [ he died when i was 5].  Somewhere
safely packed away are his pipes and humidor, and when I find them, mom says
I can take them.  It's not meant to be a sad story, but a good one.  Dad and
I will share a pipe sometime in the heavens and tell stories.

see ya round... Peace, and enjoy the leaf-Will

?????????????????? [ preferred]
?????????????????? [ if desperate]

[ Welcome, Will!  And if there is email in Heaven, I hope your dad
has read this. -S. ]

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From: Tom McNeill <????????????????????????>
Subject: Re:  post by Sschol

Steve I've been trying to answer answer a post by ?????????????? and
have had misserable luck.  He's asked for input on opening a cigar
shop in Phoenix.  I work at a cigar shop here in Houston (Richmond Ave
Cigar) on the weekends as a break from the persuit of my Ph.D. in
biochemistry and I hope some of my insights may be useful to Sschol
and anyone else interested in opening a cigar shop.  All of the
following are opinions from what I've learned and experienced.  Please
feel free to edit this lenghty post.  BTW I look foreward to recieving
PD every month.  You're doing a great job and a great service to the
pipe/cigar community.  Tom.

Steve: Hello, I'm Tom McNeill, a graduate student at the University of
Houston, on the weekends I work in a tobacco shop to supplement my
meager earnings from teaching laboratories (biology).  A few words of
advice on a new shop...Know the demographics of your client base.  A
common misconception is that cigar smokers have more money than God.
This is a stereotype that has been promoted by Cigar Afficianado.  I
can tell you from experience in our shop, just because someone makes
seven figures does not mean he or she will spend $15.00 on a cigar.
Actually, at our shop the resistance point is about $5.00 for cigars
and $250.00 for humidors (when I say resistance point I'm referring to
the point at which the customer must be "sold" on the item in
question).  One of the most important things you can do is create a
friendly atmosphere with your furnishings.  I guarantee you, if the
place looks like the board room of General Motors people will be
afraid to enter your shop (example, how many people do you see, on a
given day at your local Ferrari dealership).  In short, if your
clients are in their early thirties and over fifty (typical cigar
demographics) they will be more apt to shop in a store that is
scrupulously clean and has a knowledgable, patient staff and low
prices rather than a place that looks like a nite club (Cheer's
vs. Studio 54).  A couple more suggestions: 1) One thing that may
occur is you will develope a regular group who will make your shop
their hang-out, this is not a bad thing, but from what I've seen,
these people usually don't make big purchases, they'll monopolize the
TV, stereo, and drink all of your free coffee, leer at women customers
and chase off those who are not part of their little group.  To avoid
this, at our shop our seating is un-padded, comfortable enough to sit
on and smoke but too uncomfortable to spend an afternoon in.

2) The idea of a conferece room is a good one; however, is the
occasional usage of the conference room really worth losing the square
footage of display space.  We've only been open since February, but
our shop has undergone three or four rearrangings to maximize display
space both in and out of the humidor.  The conference room space (in
my humble opinion) would be better utilized as locker space so your
customers can keep their box purchases at the perfect temperature and

3) Selling coffee is also a good idea, there is a shop here in Houston
that sells cigars, coffee, pipes, and liquor.  What makes this shop
work is the fact that it's run by Grandma, Mom, and Daughter (they're
not related but they are generationally correct).  If a man were to
try and run this shop, coffee sales would suffer because they're
primary coffee clientele is female.  Women customers are a strange
lot, many of them are afraid to go into a cigar shop because of its
masculine nature (just like many men are hesitant to walk into
Victoria's Secret or Fredrick's of Hollywood).  But, if the shop is
light airy and doesn't reek of cigars they will be happy to come in
and shop.  On the other hand, if your shop caters to women too much
(potpourri, scented candles, soaps, and "gifty" items), your shop will
lose that feeling of being the last bastion of maleness (that is, if
that's what your after) and at that point the decline begins (there is
a chain of shops in Houston that did this and they've gone from eight
locations to three locations, as well as from profit to near
bankruptcy.  The moral of the story is to maintain your focus on what
you are selling and not to diversify too much (if you bring in
beersteins, pocket knives and figurines, close up shop, nobody will
take you seriously as a tobacconist).

4) Probably the thing you can do to make you shop unique is to know
your product inside and out.  Too many people in tobacco don't know
their product to save their lives.  Pipes are a good example, the
owner of our (his) shop has been a pipe collector for 40 years and
knows his material better than any three pipe sellers put together in
Houston.  Important, be able to speak with authority on cigars, if you
stock bargain cigars be able to tell a novice what he/she will be in
for with an El Crapo cigar and more importantly be able to tell a
novice what cigars are just as good as a Davidoff for a third of the
price (this they will thank you for by buying cigars more frequently).

5) Music: I would suggest lite jazz, classical (avoid opera), also a
nice touch would be a stock ticker or tuning into Rush Limbaugh in the
afternoon.  Again this depends upon the demographics of your client

6) Last thoughts: I wish you the best, what I've put forth is pretty
much what I've learned about the tobacco business.  I hope I've been
informative and not inflamatory.  If you have any questions or flames
please let me know. 


[ Many thanks for the suggestions, Tom! I would also suggest a clubby
atmosphere -- wood paneling and leather armchairs -- if one has the
pockets for it. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: pipe digest

  I very much enjoyed the July 20 digest, particularly the Costello piece.
>From that I was able to figure out 4 of my 6 Costellos (the newer ones) -
still can't find any info on my two rather older, Italian market pieces.
 However, what I would really like to know is wether there is a back issue
article of similar depth on Dunhill pipes. I have managed to amass over 20 of
these, with many going back several generations (I believe).  I sent a
message to the newsgroup over the weekend re several of these pipes looking
for clues, but to no avail so far.
  Keep up the good work - it's really helpful!
Fred Sake

[ Gee, I don't think I have one, but perhaps Bob Hamlin will
oblige... -S. ]

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From: David Chesler <????????????????????????>
Subject: For the Pipes Digest - Three tobacco questions

 1) What is the word that describes the difference between the
taste of hot cocoa, made with cocoa powder and heated milk and
sugar, and Bosco or Quik added to milk?
    What is the word that describes the difference between a
decent port wine and Manischevitz Extra Heavy Malaga?
    I need that word to describe a particular taste note to
my tobacconist.  I want to say "Bite" or "Oomph", but then
I just get harsh tobacco.

 1a) Which tobaccos (in all forms) have this character?  It's
the kind of taste you can dive into.  The Turkish blends come
closest to me in pipe and cigarette; I didn't quite find it
in the cigars I tried before I decided I don't like cigars
very much.

 2) What is it that makes the ash of many cigars, and some
cigarettes, hold their shape, even after the wrapper/paper
has burned away.  (I'm noticing that the new [Andron] Turkish
Special cigarettes seem to have this characteristic, which I
didn't notice before.)

 3) I used to use a pipe tobacco from Leavitt & Pierce/David
Ehrlich called Mango Cavendish.  They don't carry it anymore,
but their Twainbury is very close.  (Judge's Mixture is somewhat
    So that I can just attribute it to the passage of time, and
end my quest (more recently I did find a blend called Mango
Cavendish at a Tobaconnist Ltd that is no longer a mall 40
miles from here) can anyone who has compared the two blends 
side-by-side compare and contrast?
David Chesler (???????????????? - CURRENT   ????????????????????? - SOMETIMES
             ????????????????????? - WORK   ??????????????????????? - ALWAYS)

Welcome Lauren Rose Chesler, born July 13, 1995.  http://www.absol.com/~lauren/

[ And what is the distinctive characteristic of the ash of a
Trichonopoly? :-) Just havin' fun, David; seriously, I hope you can
get good answers. BTW, Jon's sells a mango cavendish. -S. ]

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From: ????????????? (kdoody)
Subject: cleaning stems

Dear Steve:

I am really enjoying PD, both for the great information and for the way that
it is the closest thing - sadly - to a pipe shop around my home city of
Saint John, New Brunswick.  I have been smoking pipes long enough that some
of my pipes are really old friends of 30 years.

Because there is no pipe shop in town, my pipes don't get the complimemtary
buffing when I am buying tobacco, since that is a mail order event.

A few weeks ago, I decided my pipes needed MAJOR cleaning.  What started out
as an unpleasant chore quickly became an enjoyable activity and a worthwhile

Starting out with the pipe in worst shape, a Charatan second with a severely
oxidized gray green brown stem, I set the bowl to soak overnight filled with
isopropyl alcohol.  The stem was such a mess that sanding seemed the only
option.  Starting with 360 grit aluminum oxide paper, I wet sanded, then
worked with 400 wet and the 600 wet.  Although I have buffing compound, a
drill with buffs, and a Dremel tool, I decided, in the experimental mood, to
try using Autosol, a polish for hand polishing metal, fiberglass, etc.  The
Autosol brought the stem to a nice deep black.  Next, three coats of
Armor-All, allowing each coat to soak in for about 12 hours.  By the third
coat the stem looked honestly better than when it was new some 20 years ago!
After letting the Armor-All cure for a few days, I put the pipe back
together and waxed it with Carnauba (Mother's brand, sold in the car wax
section at the local auto/hardware/sports/etc store), buffing it with a
cloth buff on the Moto-tool.  The wax did not improve the already great look
of the stem, but did wonders for the black sandblast bowl.  My old friend is
looking and smoking great.

Continuing the experiment suggests that some stems (Charatan, Dunhill) will
come to a great polish (after sanding) with Autosol polish.  However, some
brands (Savinelli, Royal Falcon (Comoy lower end pipe), and others) only get
a nice deep black when buffed with Tripoli after the sanding.  Buffing a
badly oxidized stem with Tripoli, or using Autosol, without sanding wet
produced shiny but ugly off black stems that came back to life only after
doing the whole routine with the sanding followed by buffing, Armor-All, and

I've seen some concerns in PD about using tire dressings on stems.  Some
tire dressings are probably toxic.  While I won't advise anyone to use
Armor-All - we all make our decisions on risks of tobacco or stem polish  -
I did do a bit of research.  According to Clinical Toxicology of Commercial
Products, 5th Edition by R.E. Gosselin et al (1984), Armor-All Protectant
consists of >90% poydimethyl siloxone (silicone oil) as a water
solution/emulsion, and <1% antimicrobial agent.  Silicone oil is described
as having no recognized unequivical toxic effects.  A large dose by mouth
was said to have produced mild intoxication.  Silicone oil is used in the
food and pharmaceutical industies as well as various medical and surgical

Hope this may be of some interest to the readers of PD.  Keep up the great
work, it is appreciated.

Best regards,


[ Thanks, Ken!  But I still wouldn't trust the Armor-All, what with
all the problems with silicone breast implants... -S. ]

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From: ??????????????? (Craig Tarler)
Subject: Server down & RTDA


Our server was down and we last all mail for last week. Was there a PD?  If
so, please resend.

Just back from R.T.D.A. and it was *great*.  More people than ever before
and a whole lot of young people who were starting or had just started
tobacco shops. Someone told me that 16 had been started in the L.A. area
this last year. Lots of interest in pipes and tobacco, but the main
attraction was cigars, of course. 

Whole atmosphere was very upbeat which is encouraging. People were spending
money, and big bucks at that. One humidor about 6 X 5 feet and 3 feet deep
with its own atmospheric contral and connected to the maker in Switzerland
by satellite (sp?) in case it got "sick," was priced at $150,000. *Two were
sold*  My bride saw the "guts" and said it looked like a Ferrari with its
hood up combined with a 747 instrument panel.  Mastercraft's high end
Italian pipes were so popular they had to have someone fly in with more the
second day. Stores were buying 30-40 at a time!

Whole thing gave me the feeling that pipe smoking was nowhere near dead, in
fact, it was very much alive and kicking. Lots of new, young pipe smokers, too.


Let me not to the true marriage of pipe smokers and their tobacco admit

[ Very encouraging, Craig! Thanks for the report!  BTW, sadly, I doubt
that I'll be able to make it down to Richmond this year for the CORPS
show, as we'd talked about, but I'm sure our paths will cross
oneadesedays... -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????? (Ivaldi)
Subject: Request for membership

I am a french pipe smoker and I request for membership.
I am also a professionel photographer and I would do some illustrated
reports about the european pipe makers. Could you tell me who could be
Best regards

Fernand IVALDI

[ Alberto? Anyone else? -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: PIMO, INC.

Recently received word that there is a change of address for PIMO, Inc. under
equipment, materials, and repair kits) new address is Butternut Lane, P.O.
box 2043, Manchester Center, VT 05255 (802) 362-3371 
Pimo was taken over by my father, Vermont pipe carver, Al Baier upon
retirement of Isso Altalay. Incidentally, Al Baier began his professional
career as a pipe carver a number of years ago by sending for PRIMO'S GUIDE TO
PIPE CRAFTING AT HOME, the "bible" of pipe making for the past 20 years.
Since drilling the tobacco and air hole in a block of briar is the most
critical operation in pipe making, Al will offer a pre-drilled block of briar
with a pre-fitted stem along with the "guide" as a package for would-be pipe
carvers. For the novice, it still leaves plenty of room for creativity in the
shaping and finishing of the pipe.
In addition to supplies - briar and meerschaum blocks, stems, stains, waxes,
etc., Al has two new accessory products for pipe owners - a pipe stem
tightener kit and a patented pipe stem replacement kit. Both items can be
applied at home in a metter of seconds. For more information contact Al
directly at (802) 362-3371 or send e-mail request to: ??????????????????

[ Many, many thanks for this! I haven't tried to contact Pimo in
years, but it's a pleasure to know they're still in business. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #198 - August 23, 1995

To Pipe Digest Devotees:  A pipe dinner in San Francisco
on Sunday, October 8th. has just been organized by The Piedmont Tobacconist
in Oakland, and Sherlock's Haven in S.F.
It is going to be held at MacArthur Park Restaurant at 607 Front St. in S.F.
and will be a friendly, affordable evening of good food, good drink, and, I
guarantee it, good tobacco.  Multi-course Bar B Que (or fresh fish) dinner,
with salad and top notch dessert and craft brewed beer, plus tobacco favors
and plenty of door prizes donated by our finest suppliers (I have been known
to be a pretty effective extortionist).  
     The hors d'oeuvres and swap/show & tell portion begins at 4 PM; dinner
at 6 PM (or 6:30 if activity so dictates).  All for $45, and well, well worth
it.  If interested, reservations can be made at either of the two tobacco
shops listed above.  At this moment I can only give the phone # for
Sherlock's, 415-362-1405.  Check, Visa/MC/AmEx all accepted.  Hope to see you
there (but seating is limited to about 35-40 tops).
     And now that I'm on the line, I'd like to add my opinion that the
intellectual resource re: pipes has been tremendously magnified now that John
Eels is on this network.  I'd hate to see him innundated with questions,
etc., but his experience and knowledge, etc. has been demonstrated show after
show.  His brain should definitely be picked by any of you who feel the info
you're getting is not much more than guesswork.  (John should also be shamed
into making more pipes, as his craftsmanship is excellent, but he's much
bigger and stronger than me, so I'm going to let you inveigle him into that
enterprise).  Smoke 'em if you've got 'em.  Marty Pulvers

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From: Kevin Cook <???????????????>
Subject: clay pipes

Hi fellow pipers,

Today I picked up my first clay pipe and tried it out twice.  It's a 
lightweight little thing, white, with a 3/4" wide bowl and a 3" long 
undetachable clay stem.

I still don't quite know what I think about this new smoking experience. 
Smoking such a small, light pipe was strange indeed.  I tried two
different blends in it, Legacy (a heavy Virginia-Turkish-latakia blend
from The Smoker in Albany, NY) and Blatter Reserve (a medium fragrant
latakia-turkish blend).  Both times I noticed a fair amount of flavour
loss towards the bottom of the bowl and that the small amount of tobacco
used in the bowl gave a kick equivalent to a greater quantity of tobacco
in one of my briars.  Maybe this is just because it's a new pipe ?  I 
don't think I left a shred of tobacco unburned in these two initial 
bowlfuls, which is indeed a sign that something was good.

The odour of the warming clay was fairly pronounced as the bowl heated up 
toward the bottom, reminding me of when I was a teenager during which 
time my parents ran a ceramics shop.  I never associated that clay smell 
with smoking except perhaps when quietly stealing a cigarette while 
downstairs in that shop where the kilns were.  I don't know yet if that 
clay smell is pleasant or unpleasant to me when smoking pipe tobacco.

I'm also not convinced that I like the sensation of the clay stem on my 
teeth.  As well, the clay stem, being porous, absorbs some of the 
humidity from my lips while smoking, causing my lips to feel like they 
are going to stick to the stem, which they didn't really.  They di feel 
fairly dry when I had finished my smoke though.  It certainly
feels odd compared to the acrylic mouthpieces I'm used to on my briars.  

I'd like to hear any comments that anyone has regarding clays?  I've noticed 
that clay pipes aren't talked about very often.

Life is a test

Kevin Cook,
Computer animator, Montreal

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #199 -- September 5, 1995
  2. Subject: pipe, war and peace
  3. Subject: Carey Magic inch
  4. Subject: Broken calabash insert
  5. Subject: Olde World Fine Clays
  6. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #198 - August 23, 1995
  7. Subject: PD
  8. Subject: Re: Hookahs
  9. Subject: Re: What Happened?
  10. Subject: Cigars and The President
  11. Subject: Re: Address change request for Pipes Digest
  12. Subject: For you and your readers
  13. Subject: pipe making
  14. Subject: Death of a Smoke Shop
  15. Subject: For Digest: Pipe shops in Vienna
  16. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #198 - August 23, 1995
  17. Subject: Pipes and Cigars
  18. Subject: Pipes Digest request
  19. Subject: Subscription, etc
  20. Subject: Re: post by Sschol
  21. Subject: pipe digest
  22. Subject: For the Pipes Digest - Three tobacco questions
  23. Subject: cleaning stems
  24. Subject: Server down & RTDA
  25. Subject: Request for membership
  26. Subject: PIMO, INC.
  27. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #198 - August 23, 1995
  28. Subject: clay pipes
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