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Subject: Pipes Digest #201 -- October 15, 1995

		Pipes Digest #201 -- October 15, 1995
	     Copyright (C) 1995 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 1512

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[CIGAR] While in Princeton, look up "A Little Taste of Cuba" (70
Witherspoon St, Princeton NJ 08542; phone (609) 683-8988.)  Jorge
Armenteros, the proprietor, has hit upon a retailing idea which could
spark a revolution: a "cigar parlor."  What this seems to be is a
small storefront shop where one can come in at lunchtime or after
work, buy a 'gar, sit down on a comfortable couch, and puff away,
unmolested by the smoke-cringing Puritans that infest the rest of
Princeton.  Kind of like a seven-day-a-week Bloom's Cigar Camp. The
shop isn't large, and the selection doesn't rival Holt's, but it is a
major source of comfort in a hostile area.

Jorge also carries the Butera line of pipe tobacco, and is working on
building up a line of pipes.  Stop in, and let him know you heard
about it in the Digest! -S.


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			Then, smoke in peace.

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: new search engine...

Steve and all,

	there's a new search engine for article search on the Web
	page.  it's based on:

	<a href="http://glimpse.cs.arizona.edu:1994/>glimpse</a>

	and it should be better and faster.

-- 
Steve Beaty                                                   ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                     ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA             http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty


[ Thanks, Steve! -S. ]


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From: Phil Glatz <????????????????>
Subject: Casillas Cigars

I recently visited the Casillas Cigars factory (1221 16th st.) in downtown
Sacramento.  There are two rolling tables set up by the front window, manned
by some very experienced Cuban rollers (they used to work at Tower Cigars
before setting up their own shop).

All cigars are handmade, all but one long filler, using a blend of up to
five different tobaccos.  Most wrappers are Ecudorean maduro, with some
natural Connecticut shade used.  The construction is excellent, with an easy
(but not too loose) draw.  The tobacco is of a high quality, with a medium
bodied, rich blend of flavors.

Sizes ranged from the "Pencil" (36 x 5.5, $1.40), to the "Excalibur" (58 x
8.5, $5).  My favorite is the Rotthschild (46 x 5, $2.30); it has a nice
oily maduro wrapper and a nice blend of flavors; it reminds me of my
favorite smoke, the AF Don Carlos Robusto.

The best part about Casillas is the laid back atmosphere.  You can sit
around and enjoy a smoke and discuss cigars with a master roller as he does
his work.  I brought my boys in to visit, so they could see that cigars were
truly a hand made product.  The folks are very friendly and justifiably
proud of their product.  They have a large humidor/aging room (a former meat
locker), where the finished product is stored in bundles.  Output is in the
low hundreds a day, so don't expect to see these in your local store soon.
But a visit to the factory is recommended to any cigar lover passing through
Sacramento, I'm sure you will find it a very pleasant experience.
------------------------------------------
Phil Glatz              (????????????????)
Software Engineer       Lake Tahoe, Nevada
WWW: http://turnpike.net/emporium/P/pglat/
Voice 702/831-8064        Fax 702/831-9720

[ Thanks for the word, Steve!  I know there are many folks in
California who will consider any such resource a blesing. -S. ]


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From: "Brian R. Zimmerman" <???????????>
Subject: A Few Words

Steve,

First, a belated congratulations.  I haven't been able to read
the last few Pipes Digests due to an enormous workload, but at
least my travels have allowed me to sample a couple Cuban cigars.

The Cubans were a "Romeo y Julieta" and a "Dunhill".  I was a
little surprised by the Dunhill label, but not being well-
versed in cigars, maybe you can help.  There was nothing
distinguished about it, especially compared to the "Romeo y
Julieta" which was (IMHO) terrific.  Please be aware, that was
my very first Cuban.

Now, a question.  Since I seem to be transfering planes in both
Frankfurt and Amsterdam, does anyone know where in the airports
I can find the Cubans for sale?  I've been very rushed and have
not been able to search those airports and they are just not
available at the Helsinki airport.

You raised an interesting point about having a dedicated smoking
room adjacent to non-smoking areas (such as dining and reception).
That would be a terribly civilized and relaxing conclusion to a
meal, something that many of us have considered.  But I rather
doubt that the U.S. culture would support it.  Next time, take
your vacation in Austria.  Stay outside Vienna for country charm
or in one of the numerous places in the oldest part of Vienna.
Then relax in one of the coffee houses.  What you described is
just what you get, as many relaxing hours in an overstuffed chair
with a beer, schnapps, cafe mit schlag, a newspaper, conversation,
peace and quiet, as anyone could ask for.

In fact, Europe just seems more relaxed.  Maybe because the culture
is centuries older, maybe because they don't try to legislate against
Natural Selection.

Best Wishes.
--
Brian R. Zimmerman [???????????] Standard disclaimers apply.

[ Thanks, Brian!  Perhaps the Cubans are no further than the duty free
shop. -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Smoking in San Diego; FDA and Kessler

     Steve--Time to thank you once again for the Digest and 
     congratulate you on your nuptials.  I've been subscribed for a 
     little over half a year and always enjoyed seeing the mailing 
     from your address in the mailbox.
     
     I am writing to mention some smoking I enjoyed on ny vacation to 
     San Diego at the end of August.  I went to law school and met my 
     wife there, back in the 80's, so I was already familiar with most 
     of the area's smoke shops.  One of my favorites was Captain 
     Hunt's in Seaport Village (a little tourist shopping center on 
     the water near downtown).  As I mentioned in my introductory post 
     several months ago, my favorite pipe tobacco of all time is an 
     English called "Churchill" which I have found nowhere else (so I 
     believe it's proprietary, although I could be wrong).  I was able 
     to get a pouch and although it is still a great smoke, somehow it 
     had a different character.  Churchill was my first English, and 
     as Richard Hacker wrote, an English can be a bit like smoking 
     meat (which still makes me laugh).  I was wondering if by now 
     (several years of smoking Englishes, later), I have become 
     accustomed to the Latakia and am more appreciative of the other 
     blend constituents?  Or is it possible for a commercial blend to 
     be changed without notice?  Anybody have any thoughts?
     
     On the FDA, Kessler, and some of the commentary from recent 
     Digests, I thought I would add a thought or two.  First, make no 
     mistakes, I am fully aware of the fear that the FDA's attention 
     to tobacco will inevitably lead to total prohibition.  I am 
     somewhat sympathetic to that point of view because there are 
     analogous precedents in other areas (like government promoted 
     censorship).
     
     I think a few mistakes of perception must be mentioned, though.  
     First, in response to Steve J.:  The FDA's regulatory authority 
     is justified under the "police power" of the state.  That 
     authority legally imbues a government with the ability to pass 
     regulations which affect the "health, safety, and welfare" of the 
     populace.  Such regulations are deemed important to the extent 
     that a reviewing court need only find a "rational relationship" 
     (a low legal threshold) between the regulation and the health, 
     safety, or welfare issue that is at stake for a police power 
     regulation to be upheld on challenge.  So Steve is a bit 
     overwrought in suggesting that FDA Commissioner Kessler is 
     seeking police power for the FDA.
     
     Second, while regulation of tobacco might be a "de facto" result 
     of any action by this administration, the regulation at issue 
     concerns the issue of whether a)nicotine is a drug, and b)whether 
     cigarette makers manipulate nicotine content of cigarettes.  The 
     regulation, then, would address the cigarette as a *delivery 
     device* for nicotine, and enable the government to intervene in 
     the selling of the device to (in this case) minors.
     
     The reason I though it important to risk a flame war and bring 
     these points up is that I support the use of public comment to 
     communicate with both legislators and agencies.  Before anyone 
     runs off halfcocked and starts filling my box with expletive 
     mail, let me say one last thing.  I have been smoking pipes and 
     cigars regularly for 17 years or so.  I relish this pleasure and 
     will never relinquish it to someone for their satisfaction at the 
     expense of my own.  However, if you want to effectively take part 
     in the public process, you have to assert yourself credibly or 
     risk being marginalized.  I hope everyone reads my comments in 
     the right spirit.
     
     Sincerely, Dave Hirsh, Seattle, WA. USA

[ A most thoughtful and reasoned commentary, Dave; you seem to know
your subject.  However, under a similar argument, the FDA could
intervene in the sale of cans of Coca-Cola or cups of 7-11 coffee as
"delivery devices" for caffeine.  Even if it is supported by law, the
FDA's assertion of jurisdiction over tobacco is not comforting; they
might, having finished with cigarettes, make the same "delivery
device" assertion about cigars or pipes.

And see the "Quote of the Week" below. -S. ]


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From: ???????????????? (Jeff Lowell)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #200 -- September 27, 1995

>I do especially like the long, churchwarden clays.  The long stem delivers
>a nice cool smoke.  They are difficult to clean, however.

I don't know how widely available they are, but when I bought my
churchwarden, the store also sold super-long pipecleaners especially made
for it...

Jeff


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From: Tim Ramsay <??????????????????????????????>
Subject: Canadian Pipe Shop-Kingston area

Gord Ferguson's assessment of Kingston's The Pipe and Pouch in the last PD
is accurate in all respects but that of the owner's name.  The Pipe and
Pouch is owned by MIKE Fagan, not Bill Fagan.  Bill is Mike's father and
often tends the store when Mike is out on errands.  Interestingly enough,
Mike happens to be on Rex Poggenpohl's list of american pipe makers (said
list immediately preceeds Gord's description of the P and P in last weeks
digest)!  I own several of Mike's pipes and one of them, made of Ethiopian
bubinga wood, is the sweetest smoking pipe in my collection.  It also has
a bowl large enough to eat soup out of- maybe there's a connection? 
Anyway, I heartily second Gord's endorsement of the Pipe and Pouch and
have smoked many a
hand-rolled cigar in one of Mike's overstuffed chairs.

[ Thanks for the clarification; I had his name as Mike in the Guide,
and wanted to confirm that. -S. ]


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From: "John Y. Liu" <?????????????????????>
Subject: Inns For Smokers

Further to your search for B&B's that permit smoking. . .

The Pelican Inn in Muir Beach, CA (in Marin County just north of the Golden
Gate Bridge) is an old British inn with leaded glass windows, thick-timbered
ceilings, low-beamed door, old iron latches, clean white plaster and
well-worn dark wood floors.  It has 5 or 6 guest rooms, each different but
usually including a high or canopied bed, antique sideboards, Olde English
tapestries and decorations, and a sublime view out over the flowered lawn
toward the Muir Woods.  Downstairs is a characterful dining room with long
rough-hewn tables, a huge stone fireplace, and much heavy pewter.  The menu
is unfailingly British and a fine place for lamb, prime rib, and bangers
with stewed tomatoes in the morning.  Off the entry is a small
honest-to-goodness pub, with a healthy selection of ales and stouts.  Some
evenings this pub becomes quite lively with the local Britophiles and
various dart teams, while other times it is a quiet place for a tasty ale
and a chat with the bartender.  And, getting to the point, the inn reserves
a private sitting room for guests, furnished with antique tables, deep soft
chairs, and a roaring fireplace.  On our last stay, although all the guest
rooms were full we were the only ones using the sitting room, where we
played whist and drank ale (the pub being only a door away) while a heavy
rain fell outside.   I recall -- although anyone planning a stay should
double-check!!! -- that smoking was permitted in the private sitting room
and the pub.  As you can tell, this is one of my favorite places in the
whole world and if anyone on the list chooses to stay there I hope it's not
when I need a room.  The only downside, alas, is the price which currently
hovers around $200 a night.  Don't have the phone number but its listed in
Information.


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From: "John Y. Liu" <?????????????????????>
Subject: Another Inn For Smoking

Here's another inn where smoking is permitted.  The Griswold Inn in Essex,
CT, is the oldest inn in the United States, or so they say.  It is a
beautiful old collection of white-sided New England buildings with a variety
of guest rooms ranging from smallish to mediumish, but all filled with charm
and comfort.  The dining room encompasses several large book-lined library
rooms and the menu is very fine.  The adjacent pub has a corner from where
musicians, some rather odd, occasionally play for guests at the several
round tables.  One night the entertainment was some rather proficient
spoon-playing, and I noticed a board behind the bar where regulars
apparently kept their spoons.  The bar itself is large and long and backed
with all manner of liquors, local New England beers and ales, and the
indispensable Guiness Stout.  I don't recall that smoking was permitted in
the guest rooms, although there were no loud signs to that effect, but the
pub is a very pleasant place to idle away an evening, nursing a quiet
pipeful and slowly drawing on a Guiness.  In fact, that is where I was first
introduced to pipe-smoking.

I guess the Griswold is more of an "inn" than a B&B, but the prices are
reasonable and I'd just as soon stay there, with the fine food, good ale,
and mellow company, than at a B&B.


[ Thanks for both of your letters, John!  Both places sound most
pleasant. -S. ]


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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Bad Address

Steve, can you help?  I got a letter from Mike in Ohio, e-mail address
????????????? asking about the pipe club.  Buy my reply and a followup
attempt were both kicked back to me.  Mike, are you out there?

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors


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From: ???????????????? (Ed Berggren)
Subject: [PIPES] [CIGARS]

Hello Steve,

  When I opened my e-mail this morning and saw PD #200 waiting for me, I
thought, "Holy mackerel!  Has it been 3 weeks already?"  Checking back to
#199 I saw that indeed it has.  Where does the time go?

  Congratulations on your marriage!  I wish you both a life of joy and
contentment.

  Well, I'm feeling real accomplished.  It took me over 5 months to do so,
but I've finally read all the back issues of the Digest.  Do I get a gold
star or something?  (No, probably not--how would you send a gold star via
e-mail?)  I'm kind of sorry that I'm done, however, because now I don't
have anything to look forward to at the end of a long day when I just
hanging around waiting for my commuter shuttle to pick me up.  Oh well,
maybe I can start over or use the keyword search to read articles on the
same subject or something.

  September has been full of smoking adventures and I though I'd summarize
a couple.  First of all, I was in a local mall shop which consisted of 80
percent gift items (of the pewter, Harley-Davidson,
beautiful-Indian-maiden-with-her-pet-wolf variety) and 20 percent
tobacco-related items.  They had a small humidor and I was picking out a
few premium cigars for my enjoyment, when the sales person pointed out
bundles of Honduran hand-mades that were on sale for $14.95 claiming they
were very good cigars.  I decided to try them, and indeed they are pretty
good--especially when one considers they only cost 60 cents apiece.  I've
smoked $7 cigars that I didn't like as well.  Anyway, the moral of this
story is, I plan on trying bundles again.  Oh sure, the color of the
wrapper doesn't always exactly match, and yes, there may be a blemish on
the wrapper that doesn't show up in a premium, but they smoke well.  So, if
any of the PD readers are looking for an inexpensive, yet good cigar, they
might try buying a bundle from the country of their choice.

  A couple of weeks ago I went to the L.A. Pipe and Cigar Expo.  Steve
Johnson will, no doubt, provide the Digest with a full report.  But let me
just say that I was certainly impressed.  Just imagine a hotel ballroom
full of people from all walks of life coming together because of their
common interest and delight in tobacco and the various ways it can be
smoked.  Lots of pipes on display, lots of cigar manufacturers on hand,
lots of high grade Scotch and Irish whiskeys to be sampled, lots of
friendly people.  I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.  (As an aside, I
saw a play last Friday called 'I Hate Hamlet' in which John Barrymore comes
back from the dead to tutor our hero on playing Hamlet.  The young man asks
Barrymore if one can smoke in heaven.  Barrymore replies,  "Of
course...it's heaven!"  My sentiments exactly.)  I bought myself a couple
of Paul Perri pipes.  These are hand carved by Paul, a retired tobacconist
who still carves mainly as a hobby, out of very nice wood.  I bought 2
pipes for--get this--$92!  I told Paul I thought his prices criminally low
(of course, I said this after I safely tucked my purchases away).  They're
easily worth two to three times what he charges.  Oh well, if he wants to
sell me a hand-carved, straight-grained briar with no visible flaws for
$60, I guess I'll just have to put up with it.

  Anyway, I enjoyed the expo and was sorry I could only stay 5 hours.  I
even missed the banquet (sob).  I highly recommend to anyone in the
vicinity to stop in next year.

  Someone a couple of issues backed asked what the difference was between
'natural' and 'maduro' cigar wrappers.  Although one could quote at length
on the various shades of  wrappers (everything from claro claro to obscuro
maduro), suffice it to say that natural is light to medium brown, and
maduro is dark brown.  Maduro is fermented for a longer period of time
which imparts the darker color and also a more full-bodied flavor.  As a
result, maduro cigars have the reputation of being "strong."  However,
everything is relative, and I've smoked maduros that were quite mellow.

  I guess I've rambled on enough for now.  (My excuse is that I haven't
submitted in a while, so I thought I'd make up for lost time; however, in
all probability, the real reason is that I just like to babble.)  Again,
congrats on your marriage.

[ Thanks! After five weeks, it's still great. :-) -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????????????? (jkurdsju)
Subject: NJ Pipe Clubs & a new addition

Steve,

First, let me send a slightly belated congratulation to you and Jean.  May you 
have many, happy years together.

Next, are there any pipe clubs in the North / Northwest New Jersey or East 
Pennsylvania (i.e. Pocono Mt.) area?  I've seen several cigar clubs in Cigar 
Aficianado, but no Pipe clubs.  I work in central Jersey (Somerset/Piscataway) 
and live up by the Deleware Water Gap, so would like to find a club in that 
general area - New York City is a heck of drive home with no trains available 
:-(.  Please let me know if anyone knows of one.

Finally, I'd like to mention the latest addition to my collection, a Stanwell 
Hans Christian Anderson sandblast.  Purchased at John David, Ltd. in Menlo 
Park Mall, it is a beautiful straight (it actually has a slight curve to it) 
that comes with 2 bits - a smaller, "normal" bit and a churchwarden bit.  
I've always wanted to try a churchwarden, but figured it would not get a lot 
of use and didn't want to invest a lot of money in one since my collection is 
currently rather small.  This pipe solved my dilemma. It smokes wonderfully 
and comes with a special canister and a green Stanwell shopping bag (for the 
wife, as the owner suggested).  It is also available in a very attractive 
smooth, which IMHO looks better in the standard length than the sandblast, but 
the opposite is true as a churchwarden.  I'm looking forward to enjoying it by 
the fire once those winter snows hit.

Thanks for letting me gush...

Smoke in peace,

Jake

[ Please let me know too! -S. ]


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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes

Steve, here's another article from the September Ohio Pipe Collectors
newsletter that I'd like to share with you and your subscribers.  Pipemaker
Steve Anderson of S&R, who heard Doug deliver the speech, was the first to
alert me to it.  The OPC now stands at 90 members, but we're still actively
recruiting, and I welcome e-mail requests for information or complimentary
newsletters.
 
A NEW TAKE ON DR. GRABOW
 
     Doug Allen, OPC member and President of Sparta Industries, delivered
the following speech at the 1995 PCI show in St. Louis.  Hearing about it,
I prevailed upon Doug to let it appear in print first in the OPC
newsletter, and he graciously agreed. Reader comments and replies are
encouraged.
 
                     The Honorable Dr. Grabow
 
                            Doug Allen
 
     This evening, gathered with this large group of pipe lovers, I'd like
to honor the greatest of pipes--Dr. Grabow.  Surely, you're saying, I must
have taken leave of my senses to call Dr. Grabow the greatest of pipes.
Well, I've made a claim, so let me try to justify my outrageous statement.
 
     In our country, one measure of greatness has always been size: the
bigger, the better; the more, the merrier.  Dr. Grabow sells nearly one
million pipes a year.  But, you argue, certainly in this case more is not
necessarily merrier.  Simply because the masses smoke a Dr. Grabow doesn't
mean it should be classed as a great pipe. Certainly, you insist, a Dr.
Grabow cannot be judged as comparable to the Mastro de Paja that my good
friend Thomas Cristiano is showing this weekend.  Nor would anyone compare
the collectability of a Dr. Grabow to Steve Anderson's handmades.  Why then
am I standing here talking about Dr. Grabow?  Can it be the construction?
 
     Yes, in many ways the methods of making a Dr. Grabow are exactly the
same as those the fine Italian artisans employ.  Of course there are
differences.  We don't spend as much time sanding a Dr. Grabow as the
Lorenzetti Brothers might, for example.  Our bits, though we use some
lucite, may not be as fancy as Cesare Barontini produces for our
Mastercraft Aldo Velani line.  The most similar feature between a Dr.
Grabow and the exquisite pipes many of you are smoking tonight is the wood.
Every Dr. Grabow pre-smoked pipe starts with exactly the same block of
briar as does your favorite.  Yet this lowly block of wood is why I speak
about the greatness of Dr. Grabow.
 
     Before I finish that thought about Dr. Grabow, let me talk for a few
minutes about the wood.  The White Heather (Erica Arborea) grows in the
sandy soil of the mountains ringing the Mediterranean Sea.  After about
five hot summers and mild winters, a small fibrous growth starts forming
just above the roots.  After many years (even centuries) of growth, the
burl is ready to be harvested.  This harvest is a time-consuming,
back-breaking job.  During one trip to Greece, I clambered over the hills
to observe the workers (paid by the weight of their finds) dig these burls
using only a pick and lots of elbow grease.  Thansis, a typical worker,
uses his family burro to move his wood about 15 kilometers to his meeting
spot with George Siderakis, the mill owner. The burls are washed and then
kept wet, to avoid splitting, until the cutter is ready to change the burl
into briar blocks. Imagine sitting in a loft all day with your feet
dangling down and an 18-inch saw blade whirling at a couple thousand RPMs
near your crotch.  If that isn't enough, the wood they're cutting is wet
and still a little muddy.  Do you remember the last time you tried to cut a
slightly damp 2x4?  It's tough, dirty work and the workers get paid only
for the usable block they cut during the long day.  As the blocks are cut,
the cutter grades the wood based on visible grain and imperfections
showing.  During all this, the wood must be kept wet.
 
     When a fairly large amount of cut wood has been accumulated, it is
boiled in a large copper vat for 24 hours.  The boiling removes most of the
natural oils from the wood.  This is the beginning of the break-in process
for your new pipe.  Only after boiling can the wood-drying process begin.
At the saw mill, the cut blocks are allowed to dry for approximately 90
days.  After drying, the blocks are sorted by size and bagged for shipping
to a pipemaker.
 
     Once we receive a shipment of briar, we continue the drying in special
rooms for another 90 days minimum.  For the highest grade pipes, we dry the
wood for at least a year before turning and then another six months after
turning but before any sanding or other work.  This insures you the
easiest, most enjoyable break-in period and the most pleasurable smoking
experience overall.
 
     I know you think I've gotten off track by talking about how the wood
is harvested when I started talking about the greatness of Dr. Grabow
pre-smoked pipes.  The wood is the greatness of Dr. Grabow.  No, we don't
use all straight-grain, perfect blocks for Dr. Grabow.  Many of the more
perfect blocks are used in our production of the Alpha USA series and the
Blue Ridge Collection.  Because we buy almost all the world's production of
non-straight-grain and less-than-perfect briar blocks, the price of your
favorite Dunhill is only in the thousand-dollar neighborhood, or you only
have to pay several hundred dollars or more for that exquisite Mastro de
Paja.
 
     We buy slightly over half the world's total briar wood production.  If
it weren't for the Dr. Grabow drug-store pipe, the briar wood industry
along the Mediterranean sea would all but disappear.  This in turn would
drive up the price of wood far beyond what the market would allow, thus
ending the pipe business as we know it today.  We know this is true
because, eight years ago, Sparta Industries found itself vastly overstocked
with briar and quit buying for three years.  During that time, six of 21
small briar-processing factories--29% of the total--closed their doors, and
five of them did not re-open when we began buying briar again after three
years.
 
     So, as with many things in our world, our small, humble entry into the
market paves the way for the rest.  Richard Nixon coined a phrase that
perfectly describes Dr. Grabow--the silent majority.
 
     Don't misunderstand me.  Even though Dr. Grabow is a great pipe, I
still save my pennies in hopes of one day affording one of Tom's beautiful
Mastro de Paja pipes.  But I hope that, while you puff on your favorite,
you'll more fully appreciate the role Dr. Grabow plays in the world of
smoking pipes.

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors


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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: OPC Pipe Show

Steve, while I'm still feeling on top of the world, I'd like to give you a
brief report on the OPC swap/sell pipe show that took place this past
Saturday on Sept. 23.  Bottom line is, it was terrific.  We rented all 40
available tables to dealers of various sorts, including Nikos and Marsh
Levin of NML Pipes Direct, Jack Ehrmantraut of PCI, Ken Layden of Sparta
Industries, pipemakers Steve and Roswitha Anderson, Steve Weiner and Tim
West and a host individual collectors.  Thousands of beautiful pipes were
spread out and hundreds were sold, bought and traded.  We estimate that as
many as 400 people came through the doors, and the OPC made enough money so
that, for the first time, I can quit worrying about the cost of printing
and mailing my newsletter, which just keeps getting bigger (and, I hope,
more interesting and information filled).  We also signed up 17 new
members, bringing our grand total to 90.  The smoking contest (won by Jim
Tedesco, who finished second at the PCI show in St. Louis) was a hit, as
was the raffle (50 cents a ticket and a free ticket for every pipe
purchased), which consisted of 43 distinct items with a retail value of
just under $2,000.
 
It was a hectic day for me as I scurried about like a mother hen trying to
ensure that everything went smoothly and also to sell a few of my own
pipes, but tremendously gratifying.  Everybody I talked to--dealers and
public--seemed to be having a great and rewarding time.
 
I was especially gratified to meet Neil Murray, publisher of the
Agricultural & Mechanical Gazette (yes, it's a pipe magazine for those of
you who don't know), who drove down from Michigan and who isn't nearly as
strange in person as you might think from reading his mag.  Neil even
walked off with a can of McClelland tobacco raffle prize and seemed quite
pleased.
 
Everything went so well that we have already nailed down August 24, 1996,
as the date for our 1996 show--same place but with enough room this time to
hold 65 dealer tables.  I urge everyone to note this in their calendars and
make plans to attend.  We promise a bigger and better show next year, with
more dealers, pipe shops, pipe companies and individuals and with even more
raffle prizes.
 
Thanks for your help in publicizing this event and the Ohio Pipe Collectors
(which is not limited to people in Ohio--we have five members from out of
the States) over the past several months. All of us owe you a great debt of
gratitude for the job you're doing.  Remember that when your energies start
to
flag.

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

[ Sounds like it was great, Bill! -S. ]


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From: SrA Edward Cassin <????????????????????????????>
Subject:  Your Pipes Digest subscription request -Reply

I live in Utah and it has been impossible to find a decent and/or
reasonably priced pipe store.  If anyone has any ideas on either Utah
stores or mail order it would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks 
 Ted Cassin
P.S.  I am also looking for a guide on how to start up a pipe collection.  I
am new at this.


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From: Mark Lathem <???????????????>
Subject: My new WWW page...

Greetings, Steve,

I'd like to take this opportunity to announce my home page, URL:

http://www.vvm.com/~mlathem/home.html

It's my first effort, and I welcome comments and suggestions from PD 
readers.

Regards,

--
Mark Lathem
???????????????
http://www.vvm.com/~mlathem/home.html



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From: Sheldon Richman <???????????????????????>
Subject: Inexpensive Hondurans

Steve--
Some subscribers are looking for an inexpensive Honduran cigar.  I
recommend La Primadora. You can get a bundle of 25 for under $20. I've
tried the Starbrite (a robusto, 4.5x50) and the Petite Cetro (5.5x42)
and I love them.  They also have a Churchill and other sizes.  All
come in natural or maduro.  You can't go wrong.

Congrats on your marriage.

Pleasant smoking,

Sheldon Richman 


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From: ??????????????????????? (Lewis Carpenter)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #171 - January 1, 1995

Dear Steve,

I have been receiving Pipes Digest for almost a year now and I think it is
a terrific resource. My e-mail address has recently changed to
???????????????????????? I also have an important question I would like to
ask. I have recently moved to an area of the country that lacks a good
cigar store and I have convinced some people to help me open a place that
smokers can sit and enjoy their heaters as well as find a great selection
of their favorite smokes. How can I find a list of cigar manufacturers to
build my inventory? What would be my main concerns as a cigar store owner?

Thanks, your loyal subscriber,

Lewis Carpenter
???????????????????????

[ I'd say two large concerns would be finding a suitable location and
making sure that your market will support the shop. You might want to
chat with Jorge of "A Little Taste," above, who seems to have
succeeded in doing what you're trying to do. -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????? (Roy Zartarian)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #200 -- September 27, 1995

Hello Steve and all,

PD #200 had a listing of 20th  century US Pipemakers which included the Owl
Shop and two possible locations.

While I try to avoid Worcester, Mass., at all costs, I know that there is
indeed an  Owl Shop in New Haven, Conn. on College Street across from the
Shubert Theater. Unfortunately I don't have the exact street number. They
publish a catalog and mail order of their products is available. They offer
about a dozen varieties of tobacco under their own label. Having a
preference to English blends, I consume their Patterson's Mixture and
Harkness Tower. Never having gone there to acquire a pipe, I can't say
whether they offer briars bearing their own marque.

There is also a walk-in humidor which is a cigar smoker's paradise.

Regards

Roy Zartarian 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Written by Roy C. Zartarian
"The stone the builders rejected has become
the chief cornerstone"


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From: ???????????????????????????????? (Bill Sempf)
Subject: Nording and other things

        I was lucky enough to catch a fine brace of Nording freehands at
the local Tinder Box (they're fairly hard to come by here in Columbus).  A
matched set for my wife and myself.  I know - how cute.  But here's how I
see it.  I am 24.  If I collect pipes for the next 50 years, and I have 20
pipes now, I will have a very, very nice collection.  If I have a fifty
year old set of signed Nording freehands that are _matched_ ... I will be a
very, very happy man.  Wouldn't we all?

        I was surprised to see the Don Juan cigars rate among the Cubans in
the last Cigar Aficionado (with, I believe, an 89).   Though my latest has
been the Hemingway Signature, I thought I'd give my checkbook a break and
try a few Don Juans.  I was pleasantly surprised with the powerful, spicy
flavor and the firm draw.  I smoked the Robusto, not the Churchill; I am
very anxious to try the Churchill.  It does seem to remind me of the one
Cuban I have smoked.  Ah well ... Let's all hope for the end of the
embargo!

        I was very pleased to see Old Cave back in the Ohio wine stores -
though the new bottle threw me for a loop.  I wonder how many times I have
missed it whilst digging through the wine racks of Columbus?  For those of
you who haven't tried Chateau Reynella's Fine Old Tawny, little is better
with a fine cigar or your favorite pipe.  In fact, I am enjoying Sherlock
in my new Nording with a glass of Old Cave right now.  Old Cave is a very
deep port, with several layers of fruit, raisin, plum and tobacco.  I am
not a wine expert (I'm not an anything expert) but this port is really fine
with tobacco.  Anytime you're in Columbus, look me up and we'll share a
glass.

        I feel fortunate to own a new Tim West churchwarden.  Really, a
fine pipe.  It is my first churchwarden.  I now can read and smoke a pipe
without having my TMJ act up!  The pipe is long enough and cool enough to
sit in the crook of my elbow while I smoke.  It smokes best with Dunhill's
early morning.  That wasn't surprising, until I met Tim at the Columbus
Pipe Swap put on by Regis and Bill's Ohio Pipe Collectors.  It seems that
many of his pipes smoke best with Early Morning.  In fact, that became
quite a topic of discussion amongst some of us and it was determined that
every pipe of his that we had smoked smokes best w=00=00=00=00=00=00=05=EAy =
Morning.
Coincidence?  I don't think so!!  Perhaps Tim has a deal with Dunhill ...

        I was very pleased with the Columbus Pipe Show held last week.
Having just paid tuition for myself and my wife, I didn't buy more than a
used pipe case for five bucks.  However, I finally met Regis, Bill and Neil
Murray who is the editor of the Agricultural & Mechanical Gazette.  Anyone
who doesn't already subscribe to this fine publication, should.  You can
reach Neil at 47758 Hickory St. #22305 in Wixom, MI 48393.  It is a well
written and edited journal for all pipe smokers.  Similar to this one!

        I also participated in my first pipe smoking competition at the
show.  I learned one lesson - don't get to talking about any serious
subject.  My inattention led to a beatable record of 16 minutes.  Next
time, I guess.

        Well, I've taken enough time away from Propositional Calculus for
one night.  Has anyone noticed that the difficulty of the course is
inversely related to the number of credit hours it is worth?  Shouldn't it
not be that way?  I tool Accounting, didn't study and get a B+.  Five
credit hours.  I took Marketing, worked my butt off and get a B+.  Four
credit hours.  I am taking Prop Calc.  I am reading, reviewing previous
math courses, and doing homework every night and every day.  Three credit
hours.  Figure it out.

        Until next time, gentlemen, I remain

                                                Sincerely Yours,

                                                Sempf

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>William Sempf<                    \                ???????????????
   +  >Finger for PGP key<          \ ?????????????????????????????
  +++       >Consultant to the GCFN< \         ????????????????????



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From: ???????????????? (Richard E. Byer)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #200 -- September 27, 1995

> From: ??????????????????????????????? (Gerald Belton)
> Subject: Tobacco shop in New Orleans

> My favorite tobacco store here in New Orleans is the Epitome.  They are 
> located at 729 St. Louis Street, next to Antoine's in the French Quarter.  
> They are a dealer for Dunhill and they have a variety of pipes in all price 
> ranges.

Are they still charging over $3 for an Arturo Fuente Chateau Fuente?

> From: ???????????????????????? (Steve Masticola)
> Subject: The Bed and Breakfast Circuit

> The B&Bs seem to be generally an antismoking lot.  And, although Nova
> Scotia is reported to be a home to puffins, I'm glad I didn't see any
> of them.  If I had encountered one, after three thousand miles of
> cutesy "No Puffin" signs, I might have been tempted to thoughts of
> avicide...

We did the Nova Scotia B&B thing last summer.  Those pufffin signs are 
*truly* obnoxious.

> SALMON RIVER HOUSE, Head of Jeddore, NS:  The circle-slash-puffin
> again.  However, the river plus an Adirondack chair made a welcome
> place for a pipe.  Featured a great blue heron which had the maddening
> habit of posing for a picture, then disappearing when I went for the
> camera. 

Yes!  We stayed there too.  I probably sat in that same Adirondack chair 
with my pipe one evening.  I stayed and smoked until the sun went down.

> I hope that someday I can find _some_ B&B or inn which features a
> comfortable indoor smoking room. 

I truly don't believe they exist. 

By the way, congratulations on the nuptials.

-- 
Rick Byer <????????????????>

[ Thanks, Rick! BTW, the pictures I took of the sunset at Salmon River
turned out goregeous; my equipment was a Nikon 6006, 35-80mm lens,
Kodacolor Gold 400, Bogen monopod, Peterson "Sherlock Holmes," and
MacBaren "Golden Extra."  And see John Liu's letter above; some
pipe-friendly inns _do_ exist, and they need our support if they are
not to be overtaken by the noisome puffin signs!  -S. ]


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From: "Verlyn R. Hays" <??????????????>
Subject: (no subject)

Hi Steve, Congrats on the wedding. This is my "alternate" address and I 
would appreciate it if yopu could change my subscription to the Digest 
from ??????????? to ??????????????? Thanks. I finally got to use the 
resource guide on a recent business trip to Ohio and, I must say, it was 
a lifesaver (for a pipesmoker, anyway). Finding myself in Dayton and 
running low on a good English blend, I found the Tobacco Wharf listed 
and stopped by for a visit. I thought I'd gone to pipe smoker's heaven 
because there are no shops around here of this caliber B-{(. I looked a 
round for a bit and struck up a conversation with the owner (Ron Houck) 
and his son (also Ron) and told them how I found out about them (Central 
PA check told them I wasn't a regular). I left with a great Irish second 
and an ounce of English blend and a satisfied grin. Anyone in that neck 
of the woods is encouraged to stop by for a pleasant conversation and 
great smoke.

Verlyn


[ Glad to have been of help! The address change should have been
confirmed. -S. ]


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From: ????????????????
Subject: Skoal overseas

I would like to know if it is possible to purchase U.S. tobacco products in
Singapore.  I have looked far and wide but with no luck. Do you have any
suggestions?  Thanks Mark


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From: ?????????????????? (Roy Zartarian)
Subject: Owl Shop, New Haven

Hello again Steve,

This is a followup to my earlier message about the Owl Shop.  The mailing
address is :

        268 College Street
        New Haven, CT 06510

The telephone is (203)624-3250. Or, the area code may be changed to 860 - I
can't remember whether New Haven is one of the areas getting a new Conn.
area code.

The shop's own blends actually number twenty-five, not a dozen as I said
earlier.

Roy Z.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Written by Roy C. Zartarian
"The stone the builders rejected has become
the chief cornerstone"

[ Thanks for the follow-up, Roy! -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????????????? (Claudio Feo)
Subject: Contact

Dear friends !
My name is Claudio Feo , I am a30 years old  Italian working in
International Aid business in Norway and writing to you from Oslo . 
I understand from a friend that yours is the address of a pipe smokers
E-mail . Well , if this is true....I am a pipe smoker ! I would be very
happy to get information from your mail . Living in Oslo  is  rather
frustrating when it comes to pipes and tobaccos . There is no pipe culture
in this town : only two decent shops where some tobaccoes and pipes can be
chosen . The only thing that helps is the vicinity of Denmark !
I am a dry English blend smoker at my 5th year of pipe smoking  ( never
smoked a cigarette in my life ), I have about 50 pipes , the best of them
are produced by Italian artisans .
I am looking forward to receive some information from you !
Thank you for your attention .

Best regards

Claudi Feo


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From: ?????????????????????????? (Neil Murray)
Subject: Hello

Just a note to let you know that the next issue is under way.  I have
some really great photos from the ohio pipe show.  That was one of the
Best shows that I have attended.  Just tons of fun.  I met more Gazette
subscribers there, Ohio is BIG A&M Gazette country.  Too bad you missed
all of the fun, but then you did have to run off and get married.  I met
so many people, Michael Stanley, Bill Unger, Bill & Gabriella Sempf just
to name a few.  The Sempf's are a nice young couple and is Gabriella
ever cute?

    You never commented on your photo in the Gazette from the Big Smoke
in Washington.  Was it that bad or are you running ragged at work like
me?

Anyway, I am certainly going to attend all future Ohio Pipe Shows.  Even
if it is in Ohio, right next OSU.  I just have to hide my Michigan
plates on my car.  Columbus is really one of my favorite cities.  And
not just because there are so many pipe carvers in the general area.
There is an area of the city called the "German Village" which is
essentially the original founding core of the city.  REALLY GREAT German
restaurants and BEER can be found there.  The down town of Columbus
itself is interesting from a design perspective.  The old buildings are
really beautiful.
    Well, Take care.

         Neil Murray

[ OK, I'll comment... I'm glad it didn't crack my camera lens... :-)
-S. ]


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From: ??????????????? (Mark Lathem)
Subject: Re: C.O.R.P.S. CONVENTION

???????????????????????? (Steve Masticola) wrote:

>????????????????????? (Christopher N. Hitchcock) writes:

>>	I am looking to purchase some new clay churchwardens to replace my
>>"holiday" set that was destroyed in the move (a few each way <g>).
>>Will vendors/dealers be there as well that might have such pipes?

I just found Olde World Fine Clay's home page today--thanks to our
beloved Steve Beaty:

http://mfusion.com/litebulb/this/entre/pipes/pipes.htm

--
Mark Lathem
http://www.vvm.com/~mlathem/home.html

[ Thanks, Mark! -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: My favorite pipe shop

Steve,

I have been very fortunate in life to visit some of the world's finest
pipe/tobacco shops.  Shops in London,  Amsterdam,  Geneva, Copenhagen,
Florence, Paris et al.  Some of these shops are overwhelming in terms of
their pipes, humidors, and accessories.  While visiting these shops,  my wife
holds on to my American Express card with both hands.  (She has this hangup
about financial solvency!)

I know that it's listed in the Resource Guide, but my favorite pipe shop is
Uhle's in Milwaukee.  The first time I entered Uhle's, I knew that I would
love it.  There were about a dozen customers inside.  Most of them were
smoking a pipe.  As I walked in, several of them either nodded in my
direction or murmured a greeting.  Store personnel bustled about; one of them
was smoking a maduro-wrapped churchill.  (I have been in an increasing number
of smoke shops that don't permit smoking in the store, not because of local
ordinances prohibiting it, but because non-smoking coffee-customers might be
offended.  Makes sense, huh?)

Uhle's has a plentiful supply of pipes and accessories.  They operate a small
tobacco factory, where they hand-blend their pipe tobaccos.  I have purchased
at least eight of their blends, aromatic and non-aromatic, and there wasn't a
beast in the bunch!  They offer over two dozen of their own blends.

Where I think that Uhle's Pipe Shop really shines is in their customer
service.  I'm the type of customer who places a premium on service before
price.  Though I have been in Uhle's a number of times, the fact that I live
in northern New England makes in-store visits an infrequent event.  Their
toll-free number (1-800-877-7024) makes ordering a cinch.  Readers should
keep in mind that each June, all pipes are 1/3 off the regular prices.  Last
June, I purchased a couple of pipes at Uhle's by phone.  The young lady who
took my call (I believe her name was Laurie) was patient and helpful.  She
steered me to a nifty Dunhill Dublin Tan Shell, and an E. Andrews Canadian.
 They are welcome additions to the quiver.  All of the personnel are
courteous and knowledgeable.  (I've done plenty of business with Peretti's of
Boston, for example.  They are certainly knowledgeable and expert blenders,
but a couple of them are a little grumpy and brusque.  As a result, I buy
less from Peretti's.)

There are great pipe shops in this country.  But IMHO, few can match Uhle's
for "smoking satisfaction."  Perhaps it's that Midwestern friendliness; I
don't know.  But Uhle's keeps my bowl lit just fine.

Congratulations, Steve, on your recent nuptials.  It appears that you have
far better taste (in a spouse) than your bride does.   ;)  Would you agree?
 I recall my own wedding night.  My beautiful bride complained to me that I
was a lousy lover.  I thought this was terribly unfair after only 30 seconds!

James Lawson


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From: ????????????? (Stuart M. Altschuler)
Subject: Please renew my subscription

Dear Steve,

As happens from time to time, email addresses change.  AOL was to expensive
and it took a long time to find a service that I wanted being busy with
other things during the summer.

I have missed not being able to recieve Pipes Digest and will probably look
for back issues.

Please restart my subscription at this address which I expect to be much
more permanent.

BTW, does anyone know where I can buy a box or 2 of Punch Prince Consort
Double Maduros.

Best Regards,
Stuart M. Altschuler

[ The usual catalogs only have the natural wrapper, it seems. -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????????????? (Claudio Feo)
Subject: Great !!

Dear Steve and dear PD readers !
I just received the first PD mail .....very good .
I become a passionate pipe smoker 5 years ago . Obviously I spent most of
these years learning the fine art . I'm sure I still have a long way to go ,
but the endless discovery is part of every passion . 
As Italian I feel like a strange animal living in Oslo far from the warmth
and in a country where pipe smoking is one of the few things not subsidized
by the State . 
I work for a Norwegian humanitarian organization , my job is often taking me
to East Africa and in particular to
 S. Sudan . 
The first time I went to this forgotten and war ridden part of the world , I
discovered with great pleasure that many people ( as many as to name it a
culture ) are pipe smokers , in particular one of the main tribe : the dinkas .
They produce beautiful pipes whose bowls are made out of ebony . The
peculiarity and...believe the beauty , of the pipes are the mouthpieces
which are made out of  brass obtained melting bullets( they are not
difficult to find in a country that has been in war for 40 years !) .
Another funny detail of the S. Sudanese pipes is the protection inside the
bowl : to avoid the fast burning of the wood a tin sheet is placed inside
the bowl , the tin is obtained by the big tin of cooking oil that the people
receive as food aid !
 If anybody has resisted to this description , I guess that he would have an
obvious question : "What do they smoke?" " Cow dung !"  is the answer  .
Infact they mix cow dung with locally grown ( very scarce ) tobacco . 
Well I think this is enough from me as first mail .
It has been a pleasure to read of you and from you !

My regards 

Claudio

????????????????????

[ Well, that's something that the government not only can't regulate,
but produces for public consumption in mass quantities... Thanks for
the funny, Claudio! -S. ]


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From: "George A. Gleason" <???????????>
Subject: PD submission

Steve-

I'd like to ask you to consider the following item for inclusion in Pipes
Digest; it's our Net press release on the Smoker's Rights Phone Card (60% of
our net, i.e. 10% of retail price, goes to organisations fighting against
tobak prohibition).  

I understand there's always controversy about something "commercial" on the
Net, but about that I'd say this:  Raising money for smokers' rights is
good.  Doing it by selling something is better because it can raise a lot
more and get publicity as well; people who wouldn't write a check to a
lobbying group would buy a product, as sales of environmental group T-shirts
at rock concerts demonstrate amply.  My friends & I are telecom
professionals in a worker-owned corporation.  Telecom is what we do for a
living, so it makes sense to find a way to put that to the service of our
cause (stopping the prohibitionists).  A project of this scale *can't* be
done with volunteer labor; it simply takes tooo much time.  Therefore the
people working on it have to be paid for their time in one way or another
(unless they're independently wealthy; which we're not).  

Now if we were a nonprofit organisation, we'd pay our costs of labor by
going out and soliciting grant money.  However, we're not a nonprofit, so we
can't get grants.  What we *can* do is sell a product on a commercially
viable basis, and make it commercially viable for retailers to carry it.  So
that's what we're doing; and we're donating 60% of our net to the cause.  

You may notice that Greg Pease has been heavily involved with this project.
He knows all of the details of what we're doing, including our spreadsheets,
and we've all gotten to know each other quite well over this time; the point
being that you can write to him (or Marty Pulvers, who also is aware of this
and strongly supports it) for references on the project and on my partners
and I personally.  If you check out all the details on us and what we're
doing, I'm sure you'll find it worth supporting.  

thanks-

-George Gleason  (enclosure follows)

(PS, feel free to include the 2nd and 3d paragraphs of this note in PD if
you think it necessary to explain the whole "commercial" thing.)

===== enclosure ======

We have an announcement...

In order to help prevent tobacco prohibition, we've decided to call the
power of the free market to action. Use of the Smoker's Rights Phone Card
puts a percentage of your long-distance dollars toward fighting the campaign
currently being waged against tobacco and our freedom to enjoy it.

The Smoker's Rights Phone Card is produced by Liberty Telecom, a newly
formed subsidiary of IS&N Inc., of Berkeley California.  Retail price is
competitive with other major carriers' long distance phonecards.
Appropriate discounts are available for tobacco distributors, retailers,
restaurateurs, and of course smokers' rights groups.

An oversight board including people in the trade will have full access to
our bookkeeping related to the phonecard, and will make decisions regarding
issues and organisations to fund.  Currently , the oversight board consists
of Marty Pulvers of Sherlock's Haven, Stephen Richman of Esoterica
Tobacciana and The Piedmont Tobacconist, and Dave Menache or Menache's, a
local restaurant / pub.  

The development team for the phonecard included Joel Sandler and I of IS&N,
and Gregory Pease (a regular participant of this newsgroup) and Irwin
Friedman of Friedman & Pease.  Jointly we developed the concept for the card
and the funding / oversight mechanism into a real product.  The first issue
of the card features a beautiful photograph of fine cigars.  Forthcoming
issues will feature other tobacco-related photos; we can also provide custom
photography and imprints for promotional use by tobacco shops etc.  

In light of the recent noise coming from Washington, it would seem that the
time is right for something that will generate funding and publicity for our
cause.  We believe that with good retail exposure and press coverage, this
card could prove that there is a significant demographic group of
aficionados of fine tobacco who are willing to stand up for our liberties.

(distributor and retailer pricing available; ditto for direct sale by
smokers' rights groups as a fund-raiser)

IS&N / Liberty Tel can be reached at 510-644-8085, or send email to
????????????????????

===== end enclosure =====

Note: Steve, feel free to report this stuff any way you like, i.e. using our
text or not... the only thing I ask is, if there are any technical aspects
of this which aren't perfectly clear (e.g. how a debit phone card works),
I'd appreciate the opportunity to provide clear & correct information.

-gg

[ No edits needed, George; I've placed it in the Resource Guide. Good
luck; sounds like a lot of good people are supporting this one! -S. ]


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From: mario r sanchez <????????????????>
Subject: Info

Dear Steve;

Could you please include me in your *Pipe Digest*?

Also, a brief story if I may. I found a cigar www site that seemed quite 
interesting. However, as I am often leery of products being sold via the 
Internet, I was cautious. Fortunately, they are here in Miami so I paid 
them a visit. Well, as it turns out, they are a quaint little cigar shop 
that I passed so many times before (since 1962) but never noticed. There 
are 3 very very old Cuban cigar makers doing everything by hand. It turns 
out that a close (much younger) family member did a web page for them and 
takes orders via email or by calling a 1800 number. They make the cigars 
then ship them.

When I got back to the office I ordered via the web and got the same 
cigars (I ordered a bundle of #1 maduros) that I saw them make at the 
shop. They are very very good and very inexpensive. I've been a customer 
every since. (I still have them shipped to me even though we are in the 
same city.) So a happy/positive story from people that are doing an 
honest business with a fine Cuban cigar via the Internet.

They are at http://www.webcom.com/~cubacigr

Thank you and I look forward to receiving the digest.

************************************
* Mario R. Sanchez                 *
* School of Computer Science       *
* Florida International University *
* Miami, Florida                   *
* ????????????????                 *
************************************

[ Thanks, Mario! -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????????? (Charles Myers)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #199 -- September 5, 1995

        Steve:  I need some help identifying some pipes: I recently came
across two beautiful pipes that I assumed were Dunhills, great grain and a
small white dot on the stem, closer inspection revealed the initials JRV in
a samll oval and the word PERFECT beneath the oval.  Does anyone have any
information on these pipes?

[ Julius Vesz, perhaps? -S. ]


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From: "Robert C. Holmes" <????????????????????>
Subject: Introductory Posting

Hi Steve; I have now "digested" enough of the back issues of the
digest to get a sense for the etiquette, etc. and thought that I'd
introduce myself. At the outset let me echo the sentiments of most
subscribers in saying that your efforts in establishing and moderating
the Pipe Digest are much appreciated. Not only is it interesting to
"meet" other pipe smokers, but it is also nice to have a repository
for the technical information the Digest contains.
		I have been a confirmed pipe smoker for over 35 years
now. Like many of us I started smoking a pipe in College and have
continued more or less uninterrupted until now. I think there must be
a natural progression for pipe smokers/collectors which begins with
buying the cheapest possible pipe - throwing it away and buying a
better grade mass-produced pipe. Then one moves on to collecting lots
of medium grade pipes with the odd good one thrown in.  Finally you
reach the point where fewer but MUCH better is best! Over the years I
suppose I've owned 300+/- pipes but I'm now down to about
50. Luckily,before I retired, my job not only provided a reasonable
amount of disposable income, it also required a good deal of
travelling which meant that I got the chance to buy pipes all over
Canada, the U.S. and Britain. I don't miss the job, but I do miss
these opportunities.

		For the last 2-3 years I've restricted my purchases to
one or two "High End" pipes annually and I've now given up buying the
major brands in favour of purchasing from individual pipemakers like
David Jones, Jim/Debbie Cooke, etc. I find it much more satisfying to
actually talk to the pipemaker before, (and sometimes during), the
process. Not only does that give me a chance to be pretty specific
about what I want, it also results in a pipe which is truly personal.

		Rather than go on at length about what pipes I have,
what tobaccos I smoke, etc, I'll leave it there. If I think I have
something to contribute from time to time I'll do so, other than that
I'll "lurk" faithfully. In closing there is one area that I'd be
interested in hearing from others on and that is the subject of
"antique" tobacco blends. A number of manufacturers - most notably
Germaine and Sons (Esoterica Tobacciana) claim to produce blends in
the "old" style. Not having been around that long I'm not sure how one
determines that the blends are, in fact, faithful reproductions of
Victorian or Edwardian blends. I would be interested in hearing
from/about other manufacturers who are re-creating "antique" blends or
from anyone who has information about sources for true antique
tobacco.

		Again, many thanks for your efforts, Kind regards, Bob
Holmes.


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From: "paul b. smith" <?????????????????????>
Subject: Hello!!!

It's nice to find a place on the crazy world of Cyberspace devoted 
specifically to the pleasures of tobacco!  Let me introduce myself.  My 
name is Paul B. Smith, and I am a first year college student in Illinois. 
 I have had the pleasure to partake of cigars for app. 2 years now and I 
wish to move on to the domain of pipes.  I turned 18 on Monday, Oct. 09, 
but have been purchasing products since I was 16 without many problems.  
I read alot of great info. already but thought I would relay the msg. 
that this portion of the Internet has an avid new fan who looks forward 
to future knowledge which will be gained through Net services here at 
school.  If you have any personal advice for the first time purchase of a 
pipe, I would really appreciate it!  Thank you.

[ Did I send you the "How-to" guide, Paul? If not, please remind me,
and I'll do so.  Welcome! -S. ]


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From: "Unipart," "Oxford," UK <???????????????????>
Subject: finding a friend

hullo. i'm Stephen. I enjoy pipe smoking while I watch past editions 
of challenge anneka, and dallas.
I would like a fellow companion to share a good pipe and weep over 
the bad moments in dallas.
hope to hear from all you old chappies soon.
p.s i'm 79, and have a long white beard


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From: "E. John Graham" <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes

Steve,  Congratulations on your nuptials.  I'm sure you know that 
beautiful, intelligent and tolerant nonsmokers represent a woefully small 
segment of the American population.  I found one such person, married her 
twenty-one years ago, and have no intention of having to find another.  I 
congratulate you on your good fortune.
 
Wednesday, September 27th was an extremely hectic day.  The day's events 
at the office confirmed Graham's Law of Organizational Pseudo-dynamics -- 
The Urgent always drives out the Important.  Upon returning home, I 
thought my day had turned around when I discovered that my order of 
tobacco from Cornell and Diehl had been delivered.  As I prepared to open 
the package, several family-members reminded me of pressing household 
responsibilities.  My first choice would have been to continue with my 
tobacco shipment.  However, I was over-ruled and reminded of Graham's 
Observation of Household Pseudo-democracy  --  SOMETIMES YOU LOSE THE 
VOTE, ONE TO NOTHING.  After nearly two hours of attending to these 
unanticipated and unwelcome tasks, I returned to my package.  Inside the 
cardboard box several bags of Craig's blends waited patiently for me.  I 
went into the next room to fetch a briar and as I returned the scent of 
the fragrant herb was filling the house.  It was then that my beautiful, 
intelligent and tolerant nonsmoking spouse reminded me that I promised to 
take her to see the brilliant Italian film, Il Postino, The Postman.  
Being a man of my word, I set the package aside.  
 
Although I would have preferred being elsewhere, the movie was most 
enjoyable.  However, I found myself quite distracted during a scene in 
movie when the local fishermen gathered at their village movie house to 
see the latest newsreels and smoke their pipes.  There I sat, smoke-free 
and insanely jealous.  Despite this distraction, the film was a most 
soul-satisfying experience.
 
I finally returned to my package at about 11:00 pm.  I filled a favorite 
briar with the great anticipation that can only come from unfulfilled 
expectations and denied satisfaction.  I began the first satisfying 
puffs, and decided to check my e-mail with my new Macintosh computer.  
Previously, all of my electronic activities, including reading Pipe 
Digest, have occurred in a smoke-free office environment.  I was 
relishing the opportunity to catch up on my correspondence while enjoying 
the long denied smoke.  I put a new Pierre Bensusan compact disk in the 
drive and sat back leisurely puffing and basking in the warm glow of the 
CRT.  Low and behold, there waiting for me was Pipe Digest #200.  Take 
courage fellow followers of the sacred herb, it is possible to lose every 
battle, and still win the war.

John Graham
Yellow Springs, Ohio
??????????????????????????

[ "All things come to he who waits." -S. ]


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From: ?????????????? (Patrick North)
Subject: hookahs

Dear Steve-

There has been some some talk of hookah smoking in the digest lately, and
some question as to what is traditionally added to the water to scent or
flavor it.  Yes, it's arrak (sp), and it is an alcoholic beverage (not just
a scent or cologne as was guessed) made from dates.  Cool, huh?  Sounds
like it would be pretty nasty with latakia...

Happy puffin,
Patrick North
PS-"Happy puffin" would refer to my hope that your future smokes are good
ones,                           not a "pleased penguin."



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From: ????????????????? (RANDOLPH RUWE)

	I have been reading at random about 20 of your Pipes 
Digest Pages.  I like the forum?, area?, web site?, very much. 
I have been smoking pipes, cigars and cigarettes for 35 years. 
The cigs. are an early habit, the pipes and cigars are pure 
pleasure and two that I have been enjoying for over 30 years.  
I have about 100 pipes in my collection, and a homemade 
humidor of Vermillion (Paduk wood), that holds about 500 
cigars.  Some of them are 15 years old, that I have aged, 
babied, and pampered, and only share with special friends. 
Mainly those friends that I have had longer than the 
Cigars.The humidor is actually double walled, the interior 
walls made of 3/8's inch Spanish Cedar.  I haave read that 
some readers are trying to make their own humidors, and hope 
that they are not trying to use liners or wood other than 
Spanish Cedar, because they will end up with some odd tasting 
Cigars to say the least. Only Spanish Cedar will improve the 
taste of fine cigars, and allow them to improve with ageing.
I have to sign off for now, but I shall return.
  

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From: [ Name withheld at submitter's request -S. ]
Subject: Mail-Order Pipe Tobacco?

Steve,

Have you reviewed any good mail-order sources for pipe tobacco in any of
your prior issues?  If so, could you please point me to some mail-order
sources that are recommended?

Also, as a side note, I have two Kirsten Meershaum pipes (1/4-bent and a
full-bent) and find them to be excellent.  If anybody is interested,
Kirsten's has a retail outlet (in addition to their mail-order address and
phone number) ....... here's the info:

F. K. Kirsten Ltd.
Fisherman's Terminal
1900 W. Nickerson #112
Seattle, WA  98119

Phone:  (206) 286-0851
Fax:  (206) 286-8891

Store Hours:  8-5 Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday; 8-7 Thursday, Friday; 9-5
Saturday, 10-2 Sunday.

[ Thanks for the info! -S. ]


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Quote of the Week:

  "Adults are able to make their own decisions about smoking."

				- President William Jefferson Clinton

				  (in a letter to me, and probably to
				   a lot of other people. Unfortunately, 
				   but predictably, the letter continued
				   with a page of howevers, ifs, ands,
				   and buts about why the FDA, as well
				   as the BATF,  now has to regulate
				   tobacco use by adults.) 


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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #201 -- October 15, 1995
  2. Subject: new search engine...
  3. Subject: Casillas Cigars
  4. Subject: A Few Words
  5. Subject: Smoking in San Diego; FDA and Kessler
  6. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #200 -- September 27, 1995
  7. Subject: Canadian Pipe Shop-Kingston area
  8. Subject: Inns For Smokers
  9. Subject: Another Inn For Smoking
  10. Subject: Bad Address
  11. Subject: [PIPES] [CIGARS]
  12. Subject: NJ Pipe Clubs & a new addition
  13. Subject: Pipes
  14. Subject: OPC Pipe Show
  15. Subject: Your Pipes Digest subscription request -Reply
  16. Subject: My new WWW page...
  17. Subject: Inexpensive Hondurans
  18. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #171 - January 1, 1995
  19. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #200 -- September 27, 1995
  20. Subject: Nording and other things
  21. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #200 -- September 27, 1995
  22. Subject: (no subject)
  23. Subject: Skoal overseas
  24. Subject: Owl Shop, New Haven
  25. Subject: Contact
  26. Subject: Hello
  27. Subject: Re: C.O.R.P.S. CONVENTION
  28. Subject: My favorite pipe shop
  29. Subject: Please renew my subscription
  30. Subject: Great !!
  31. Subject: PD submission
  32. Subject: Info
  33. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #199 -- September 5, 1995
  34. Subject: Introductory Posting
  35. Subject: Hello!!!
  36. Subject: finding a friend
  37. Subject: Re: Pipes
  38. Subject: hookahs
  39. Subject: Mail-Order Pipe Tobacco?
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