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Subject: Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995

		Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995
	     Copyright (C) 1995 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 1741

Welcome to new members:

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[WIFELY NOTE] Jean says to say hello to the pipeies (though she didn't
tell me how to spell it.)  So hello, pipeies!  

(However, she didn't tell me what to say to, or call, the cigar
enthusiasts here.  But then she has kind of an aversity to cigars, so
that's probably best anyway. :-)

This is going to be a pretty long issue; lots of new members and
enjoyable submissions since #205!  So, if you will, please allow me to
fill up a sandblast Nording with, lessee, Apricots & Cream, put the
keyboard to the bits, and chew the stem with you for awhile.

Lest we forget: to all, a happy holiday season!  (And, if #207 doesn't
hit the Net until 1996, we wish you a New Year without a bitten tongue
or dry cigar in the whole house.)

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	    Help Stop Prohibition  --  Keep Tobacco Legal

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			Then, smoke in peace.

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From: ????????????????????? (Kenneth Udut)
Subject: PIPES_DIGEST: A continued thanks...

I just wanted to share a happy "Thanks again" for the pipes 
digest.  I haven't picked up my pipe in about three months.  
I picked up on cigarettes again (it's an ongoing battle), 
and kept looking at my pipe, longlingly, waiting for it to 
speak... to say, "It's time to come back to me and start 
giving up those cigarettes again".

Tonight, reading the pipes digest, I glanced down at a pile 
of cigarette butts in the ashtray - too many to count.  
Halfway through the digest, I picked up the pipe, walked 
briskly to the store and picked up a very basic Cavendish 
(something interesting called "Amphora" - with a shredded 
tobacco... something I'm not used to), packed the pipe, lit 
up, and I was in heaven again!

Thanks again for the inspiration!  For a time, at least, I 
will be moving away from cigarettes.

God bless every one of ya!

Listowner of the Minister's Discussion List <??????????????????????>

[ Congrats, Kevin! And welcome back to the pipeies. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????? (Jeff C. Nichols)
Subject: Pipes with screw-on bowls?

Recently I acquired a special lighter, an old Zippo, that my grandfather used
for as long as I can remember and as long as my Dad can remember.  Along 
with this special keepsake, there was a bag of pipes which had screw on bowls.
Do you or anyone else know anything about these?  I would suspect that they 
aren't that rare or valuable, but I'm more interested in their history 
rather than their value.  Also in this bag is a still in the cellophane 
wrapper pouch of tobacco (Sir Raleigh I believe).  If I recall, the price 
was still on it--45 cents or so.

Thanks for the help and info.  

*  Dr. Jeff Nichols             |   I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay.        *
*  Ext. 2660 (527-8750 outside Rice)					  *
*  "Abstract compassion is the business of lawyers who often are young,   *
*  childless and affluent enough to live in neighborhoods with more       *
*  Starbucks coffeehouses than drug dealers." ---  George F. Will	  *

[ Undoubtedly they're Kirstens.  See the Resource Guide for
F. K. Kirsten's address and phone. The search engine on the Web site
may turn up some other discussion. -S. ]

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From: Matthew Leingang <??????????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #205 -- December 4, 1995

[ Change of address deleted. -S. ]

Brothers (and sisters) in blue smoke,

I've only written once, and that was a while ago, so allow me to 
introduce myself again.  

I am 22 years old (but I won't be for long--apologies to Paul Simon) and 
have been an enlightened smoker of cigars for about a year.  I got 
introduced to cigar smoking at a Christmas party by a neighbor of mine.  
As we sat there (outside on the porch, natch) I realized the power that 
fine tobacco has--smoking cigars together means sharing more than 
second-hand smoke!

When I was in college at the University of Chicago, I loved to go to Iwan
Ries on Wabash Ave.  The aromas of the hallway leading to the store
reminded me that once I entered, all troubles would vanish.  The selection
at IR is wide, and the service is fantastic.  I developed a personal
rapport with one of the workers which always helped to impress friends. 
I'd walk in with a non-smoking friend, and Tony would say, "Hey, Matthew, 
how're you doing?"  This would stun my companion.  A pity that service 
like that used to be de rigeur and is now so hard to find.

I also joined a newly-formed club called the Chicago Cigar Internet 
GRoup (CCIGR).  It was started by Rick Devries, who simply e-mailed 
anyone who posted to alt.smokers.cigars from the Chicago area and asked 
them if they wanted to help form the group.  Although I was the youngest 
there by about 10 years, I had a great time at each meeting.  If there 
are PD readers in the Chicago area who are interested in joining, check 
out their WWW page, accessible from the Fuji Cigar Page


Now I am in graduate school at Harvard, and I was pleased to find a fine 
cigar store right in Harvard Square, Leavitt and Peirce.  Spoiled as I 
am, though, I must admit this shop pales in comparison to IR.  However, 
they do have a good selection, along with beautiful lighters, humidors, 
and other "men's accessories" (or so I hear; one of these days I'm going 
to look at those, too, I guess).  I don't rue the smaller selection as 
much as I do the lack of good service.  Like Robin Willis said in PD 
#205, the salesclerks are goateed and pierced, which is irrelevant, but 
what gets me is that they know less about cigars than I do, so it's kind 
of hard to ask advice.  But I seem to manage.  I will be checking out 
other cigar shops in the Boston area soon, though.

One last thing--I am seriously thinking about attending the Boston Big 
Smoke on February 26, 1996.  Is anybody out there from the Boston area 
also thinking about going?  I'd really hate to go all by myself.

Okay, that's all.  I'd like to say "great job" to Steve for putting this 
together and thanks to all the posters who brighten my day once a month.  

Smoke in Peace,

Matthew Leingang		617/495-2171
Harvard University		?????????????????????????
Department of Mathematics	"Insert pithy quote here."

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From: Mike Glukler <????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Digest

Steve, I have been reading the postings in Pipes Digest for about the
past five months, and have gained a great deal of information, Thanks
to all. I am looking for two things currently. First I am looking for
other Canadian Pipe Smokers that would like to join the Ohio Pipe
Collectors Canadian Chapter. If you are out there please get in touch
with myself and I will direct you to the right person/s. Also I am
looking for a good Dunhill lighter repair shop. One that is in North
America, as the last repair done for me by Dunhill of London was short
lived. Any help in these areas would be appreciated. Thanks
Again. Mike.

[ Please let us know if the Canadian OPC takes off! -S. ]

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From: Miguel Llinas Jr <[email protected]>
Subject: Drum tobacco and pipe


I would like to ask my fellow pipe smokers...brought together by your 
wonderful work (we can't thank you enough)...whether anyone has tried 
smoking the famous Dutch handrolling tobacco DRUM in a pipe.  I was told 
to try this, as I am also an avid handrolled cigarette fiend (but only 
DRUM) and I enjoy the sensation of inhaling smoke.  It would seem like a 
good idea, as Drum is perhaps one of the best tasting (as it is naturally 
preserved beautifully cut Turkish tobacco) tobaccos readily available.

As I have already asked for opinions, I will now ask that people try 
this (only if you enjoy inhaling...this is not for just any pipe 
smoker).  The benefits are four (as far as I might deduce):  (1.)  
inexpensive...very  (2.)  tastes great...really  (3.)  no cigarette paper 
involved...thus no harshness...purely smoooooooooth  (4.)  INHALATION 
(well, for me, that's a biggy).

ok.  i'm not sure how many people will think i'm insane, or not, or 
whatever...but it really is great stuff, and everyone ought to try it 
once.  i did, and i truly thought it was great.  heck, you don't even 
HAVE to inhale, you can just puff away and not ingest a tiny little bit.  
ah...the pleasures of home cookin'.

no exit,

miguel llinas, jr.
[email protected]

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Ohio Pipe Collectors & Reamers

Steve, as the holidays draw nigh and we all begin hoping for a new pipe(s)
in our Christmas stocking, I'd like to give a short report on the Ohio Pipe
Collectors.  As I write, we stand at 103 dues-paying members, three of whom
are community-hungry individuals from British Columbia who have just formed
the Canadian chapter of the OPC.  We are, of course, just two months down
the road from our very successful Sept. swap/sell show, and we have already
scheduled bigger and better shows for Sept. 14, 1996, and Sept. 24, 1997.
Our (huge) Dec. newsletter will be hitting the mail about the time Digest
206 appears.  It will feature a profile of Ohio pipemaker Tim West (third
in a series), a new column on pipe repair by long-time professional Jeff
Walls, and much, much more. With it, as a Christmas bonus, I will be
mailing copies of the front cover (featuring the lovely and talented
Gabrielle Sempf smoking a nice Peterson) and the five inside pages of text
and pictures taken by Neil Murray at our show and published in the last
issue of the Agricultural & Mechanical Gazette.  I invite all your readers
who think they might like to belong to the OPC (only $12 a year) to write
me for a complimentary copy of the newsletter and a membership form.  Don't
be fooled by our name-- we now have members from many states and foreign
On a different note, in #205, Ralph Webb asks about reamers.  The best tool
I've ever found is a tool consisting of a T-handle and four variously sized
4-sided carbon steel reamers that fit into it.  Many pipe shops carry this
tool, but I got mine from Carey's (they call it the Pipnet Reamer) for
$19.95.  Call Carey's at 1- 800-99BRIAR to order or get on their mailing
As I sit here smoking my new Steve Weiner, obtained at his special show at
Barclay Pipe & Tobacco last Saturday, and my McLelland 2015, I wish you,
your new bride, and all your pipe- smoking subscribers (well, OK, the cigar
smokers too) a very happy holiday season.  Even a whupping by the
Wolverines and the failure of the Buckeyes to make it to the Rose Bowl
shall not tarnish for me or lessen my good will toward pipe smokers
everywhere, even our brothers from Michigan, still known as "the state up
north" by some in these

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

[ Received the issue, but Other Stuff has kept me from reading it yet.
Rest assured, I shall! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????????
Subject: cigar history

Regarding Mr. Picavet's request for information about the
history of New England cigar makers, I would recommend
IN AMERICAN CIGAR FACTORIES, 1900-1910 by Patricia A. Cooper
(Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1987).  It may be out
of print by now, but it should be readily available at a
university library or through interlibrary loan.
        Allow me to quote from the dust jacket for a
synopsis.  "Cooper charts the course of competition,
conflict, and camaraderie among American cigar makers during
the two decades that preceded the mechanization of their
work.  In the process, she reconstructs the work culture,
traditions, and daily lives of the male cigar makers, who
were members of the Cigar Makers' International Union of
America (CMIU) and of the nonunion women who made cigars
under a division of labor called the 'team system.'  But
Cooper not only examines the work lives of these men and
women, she also analyzes their relationship to each other
and to their employers during these critical years of the
industry's transition from hand craft to mass production."
        I found it an interesting, albeit at times tedious
book.  Labor history is not my forte, though, so I can't
comment much on how this book fits into the historiography
of the field.  Cooper does include a bibliographic essay
that might prove useful in guiding you to other sources.
        I hope this helps.  I'm always glad to mix history
with tobacco.

Jay R. Dew
The University of Oklahoma
Norman, OK

[ I'm sure M. Picavet will appreciate this, Jay! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (Ed Berggren)
Subject: Whiskey, Cigars, Matches

Hello, Steve,

  Just received and read PD #205 and thought, with your kind indulgence,
that I'd respond to some of the questions/comments made therein.

  Martin Golding (???????????????????????) wrote regarding what to drink
while smoking:
"I don't like to drink Scotch while smoking...does anybody have any
specific recommendations?"
  May I humbly recommend an Irish whiskey which doesn't have the smoky
flavor that Scotch has.  Bushmills is my personal favorite.  Their basic
blended whiskey runs about $13 a bottle at the local supermarket (So.
California prices).  Harder to find and more expensive is their 10-year old
single malt called, surprisingly enough, Bushmills Single Malt (about $30 a
bottle).  Very smooth.  In the middle is Black Bush, their high-end blend
at around $23 a bottle.  I like this one a lot and drink it with either a
pipe or cigar.  It's also very smooth and has, IMHO, a richer flavor than
the single malt.  All three are worth drinking.

  Robin Willis (???????????????????) asked:
"What do other long time cigar smokers make of all these new smokers and
what I call the 'Cigar Aficionado Effect' (which translates basically to
'great review, now out of stock')"
  I think it's great for a couple of reasons: 1) it's causing younger
people to pick up the gentle art of smoking which means that it won't die
out; and 2) it helps keep tobacconists in business which is good,
especially when I need to replenish my supplies.  The CA reviews don't
usually affect me because they tend to sing the praises of larger sizes.
The smaller sizes that I prefer are usually in stock.

  Mark Lathem (???????????????????????) offered "three (albeit slight)
advantages of Swan Vestas over Diamonds and Blue Tips."  In friendly
rebuttal, I herewith offer two advantages of Rosebud matches (made, I
believe, by Diamond) over Swan Vestas:

1)  Rosebuds are cheaper.  I paid 35 cents for a box of 90 Vestas.  At the
grocery store I can get 320 Rosebuds for 70 cents.
2)  Rosebuds are about 1/8-inch longer.  Not much, I grant you, but useful
when you need just that extra second to get your pipe going nicely.


[Personally, I don't think Rosebuds are made by Diamond though I
haven't checked); I've also had problems with the former coming apart
under the stress of being lit.  If you can't get Swans, Diamonds are
the best I've found. -S. ]

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From: "MSMAIL Manager" <??????????????????????????????????>
Subject:       Finest in Ports

Dear Martin,

Having just finished our Winetasting Society's Port tasting (and as a 
passionate lover of Port myself) I feel quite qualified to 
recommendation a selection of fine Port for smoking with a pipe.  

In selecting a Port it is really necessary to decide how much you 
want to spend as Port prices can get quite high for older vintages.  
After deciding the price range you are comfortable with, here are 
some recommendations:

Dow's Crusted 10 Year-Old  ($20 - amazing quantity of sendiment) 
Graham's Malvedos ($26)
Graham's Six Grapes ($16 - personal preference)
Graham's Vintage 1985 ($65 - may be a little young)
Dow's Vintage 1970 ($100 - good if you're with a non-smoker as they 
get a treat too...)

 (don't worry these are Canadian dollars.  I assume that you'll be
able to get all these Ports significantly cheaper..)

Ben Harrison

[ The idea of enjoying a pipe with one's port has its opposition; see
the next. -S. ]

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From: Even Flood <???????????????????????>
Subject: What to drink while smoking

Martin Goldman's entry about smoking and drinking
brouhgt forth fond memories from my reading of mysteries.

>What should I order? I don't like to drink
>Scotch while smoking, I think it detracts from the peat. I generally like
>port with cigars, but I don't know anything whatsoever about ports, does
>anybody have any specific recommendations? and, what else do you think
>goes with a good cigar or a bowlful of strong latakia blend?

Are you aware of that drinking port while smoking a cigar
is liable to get you thrown out of  posh British clubs? 
According to authorities G. K. Chesterton and Dorothy 
Sayers, that is simply Not Done.

Sayers' Lord Peter Wimsey in the story 
"The Abominable History of the Man with the 
Copper Finger" condemns it absolutely,
while pipe and beer is accepted.

In Chesterton's story "The Crime of the Communist" 
the murderer's plan hinges upon that a certain radical 
Oxford don will not smoke untill the wine is finished.
To quote Father Brown in that story:
"Well hang it all, he was only an atheist. He only wanted to
abolish God. He only wanted to destroy the ten
Commandments and root up all the religion and
civilization that had made him, and wash out all
the common sense of ownership and honesty;
and let all his culture and his country be flattened
out by savages from the end of the earth. That is
all that he wanted. You have no right to accuse him
of anything else beyond that. Hang it, everybody 
draws the line somewhere! And you come here and 
suggest that a Mandeville man of the old generation
would have begyn to smoke - or even strike a match,
while he was still drinking the College Port of the 
vintage '08 - no,no; men are not so utterly without
law and limits as all that!"

You are warned!

As to my own taste - a beer and a pipe is 
sufficient. On special occasions a single Malt
sipped while smoking. Or a medium dry sherry.
Whatever it is, it must not be too sweet.

Smoke in piece - anything that tastes right 
is right.

BTW your wife is very much worthy of
the praise you give! Anymore like her out there?


Even Flood
Senior Research Librarian                 "Come, and take choice of
Norwegian DIANE Center                       all my library, and so
Technical University Library of Norway       beguile thy sorrow."
N 7034 Trondheim, Norway                       (Shakespeare)
Phone: +47 73 59 51 62, Fax +47 73 59 51 03

[ Speaking as an ex-bachelor who spent about 20 years of searching,
there's only one who's _exactly_ like her. But, as I think Shakespeare
said, "there's a lid to every pot." -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????? (Tim Sweeney)
Subject: Smoking calabash outside

Dear Steve,

I read John Peter Giunta's query about smoking a calabash outside.
I have had a calabash for about 2 years now, and the only place I smoke the
thing is outside.  Although my wife loves the smell of fresh burning
tobacco, she is not fond of it the next day.  I must admit, stale smoke is
not my favorite either.  Living in So. California makes life very easy for
the out of doors smoker.  Anyway, I digress.  The pipe is indeed quite
healthy, and has not suffered one whit from it's out of doors adventures. I
do not smoke in windy conditions, but generally if it is windy, getting a
pipe lit is a hassle, and I would not enjoy a face full of burning embers
blowing out anyway! Given gentle handling and respect for the pipe, I do not
think that smoking the calabash outside will have any negative affect on it.
Your comment about the pipes being large and unwieldy are correct-  I would
not fancy mowing the lawn with the thing clamped in my teeth!  The calabash
is most suited for a nice lawn chair and a fine single malt scotch....
Besides, good leaf requires time to produce, and therefore requires proper
time and concentration to fully enjoy. Cigar or pipe, it matters not.
Either one is just as refined and civil as the other.  It is a matter of
whim and indulgence.
Thanks for the Digest.  It is a fine read on one of life's simple yet
elegant pleasures.

Sincerely yours,

Tim Sweeney

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From: ENRIQUE ESPINOSA <????????????????>
Subject: Cigar only version?

Hi Steve,
	As always, I enjoy your Digest very much but I have one 
observation/complaint/request (take it as you will): I only smoke 
cigars and are thus only interested in the cigar information.
I have smoked cigars for about 4 years now and have enjoyed 
reading about other people's experiences with them, but to be perfectly 
honest I am not really interested in the pipe information that comes 
with the Digest, I just can't relate.

I don't know how many people would be interested in receiving 
"dedicated" issues of the Digest, be it cigar, pipe, or both?

Would it be a possiblity if enough people are interested?

Enrique Espinosa

Rhodes College '97

[ Enrique and I had some further discussion, some of which I'll
paraphrase. My personal viewpoint is that one Digest is enough for me
to edit, but that anyone else who cares to put out a cigar-only
version will have my support.  I should also say that this would be a
long-term commitment to a lot of people.  Watch this space for further
developments. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????
Subject: Condor supplies

     Re - Gallaher's Condor
     many thanks for my first few issues of the digest which I have found 
     very interesting, particularly since I am fairly new to pipe smoking 
     and have much to learn from the more experienced correspondents.
     I may be able to help regarding Chet Gottfried's request for a mail 
     order supplier of Condor. I found a small smoke shop while on holiday 
     this summer, they offer a wide range of quality cigars, pipes and 
     tobaccos (including some of Gawith and Hoggarth's range) and will mail 
     any order of UKP 10 or more within the UK. I'm afraid I don't know 
     whether they will mail order to the US but it's probably worth a try - 
     they were very helpful and knowledgable in the times I have dealt with 
     them. The address is :
     West Cornwall Cigar Company
     Captain Cutter House
     Chapel Street
     Best of luck obtaining supplies Chet, please let me know how you get 
     I wonder if anyone can offer me some advice on clay pipes ? I bought a 
     couple of clays from an antique shop recently for UKP 1 each. One of 
     them is shaped like the head of general de Gaulle and inscribed with 
     the legend "vive la France". The other is inscribed with the legend 
     "the shepherd" and has a picture of a bearded man smoking a pipe on 
     one side, and a shepherd's crook on the other side. The shop owner 
     said that they were probably reproductions and not really all that 
     old. Does anyone know how old these things are and whether they are 
     still made ?
     They had clearly never been smoked due to the spotless condition and 
     I've tried a couple of bowlfuls in one of them when the other pipes in 
     my limited collection were all needing a rest. It really wasn't bad, 
     quite cool and pleasant to begin with, although the bowl and the smoke 
     got pretty hot when more than half the bowl had been smoked. 
     One of my friends told me that I shouldn't smoke the pipes at all and 
     they were intended as decorative ornaments. Are some clay pipes 
     intended not to be smoked, and if so how can they be distinguished 
     from the more functional ones? I like to smoke all of my pipes if 
     possible, but don't want to ruin the pipes by smoking them if they're 
     not intended for this. Do clay pipes smoke better if a layer of cake 
     is allowed to build up as for briar?
     I'm also interested in why clay pipes went out of fashion, was it due 
     to the superior smoking qualities of briar and meerschaum, or due to 
     the fragile nature of the clays? At such a low cost they can be 
     treated almost as a disposable item - ideal for the throwaway society!
     Any advice would be very much appreciated,
     Terry Clark

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From: ?????????????????????????? (Claudio Feo)
Subject: Virtual Latakia

Hi Steve & Friends !
It was nice to come back home after almost one month , switch my PC on and
find the PD there ! 
Thanks again for your service Steve !!
On my way back from Sudan I enjoyed a stop over in Rome where I visited ( as
I  promised to myself ) the  pipe shop of Backer & Musico' . Sitting on
their sofa , we discussed if it was t time for me to buy my first Dunhill
pipe . I am resisting the idea of this purchase , although many of my fellow
pipe mates regard the possession  of a Dunhill as an upgrade in ones smoking
life .
 I am not very found of Dunhill pipes , first becouse of the awfully high
price and then because  the Dunhill shop in London is one of the coldest
pipe shop I have ever been in .They sell pipes together with shirts , ties ,
pens and other fancy items . This makes their pipes and their tobaccos just
as an accessory to some expensive dress . Often the guy behind the pipe
counter is the same that sold ties or shoes the day before  and he is not
always able to satisfy the endless curiosity of a pipe smoker in a pipe shop .
I hope to read  some more positive comments on Dunhill pipes on the next PD
issues .

Still sitting on the B&M sofa , I smoked their blend : a mixture of White
Balkan and Black & White . The Black & White is meant to soften the taste of
the Balkan .
Being an english blend  smoker I have smoked Balkan ( white ) for 3 years
now , I have sometimes smoked Dunhill 695 ( too strong ) and J. Upshall (
green shield ) . Although I love the Balkan I am now  curious to try   new
english blends . 
I' m sure that the PD fellows will assist me on this matter with tips and
suggestions  !

Smoke in peace


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From: ???????????????????? (Frederick A. Larson)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #205 -- December 4, 1995

Hey, Steve:

I'm a new subscriber gradually getting the hang of Pipes Digest. Took me
awhile to realize that it is best appreciated when day is done, feet are
up, wife's in bed and perique's in the air. So, now I save 'em and peruse
contentedly via laptop in the late evening. (Maybe you should include
instructions when you confirm new subscribers. PD goes particularly well
with Nightcap!)

Anyway, I've noticed your growing subscriber list, and I asssume that PD
will follow the path cut by Marvin Shanken and Cigar Aficianado. I want to
be first to volunteer to write for PD about driving racing Nissan's, buying
my own island, gambling at mob watering holes, looking at the breasts of
women I don't know, being an entertainer and all the other things which are
apparently integral to cigar smoking. What kind of salary can I expect from
PD, and how will you reproduce photos of the fabulous raw diamonds I expect
to buy and describe?

OK, sorry for shooting off my mouth, but I'm sort of wondering outloud
whether appreciation of fine tobacco must now go hand in hand with
unabashed exhaltation of wealth and sensuality. I just don't think so. Bet
there are a LOT of us who deeply enjoy a good smoke, whether cigar or pipe,
but find this recent hyped-up hedonism stuff slightly embarassing. I'm glad
for what CA's done for the cigar industry, but good grief, Marvin!

Tremendously appreciate your contribution of time for the benefit of all PD
subscribers of ALL grades and stripes. Keep up the great work Steve!


Frederick A. Larson
111 University Drive East, Suite 220
College Station, Texas 77480

voice (409)846-6078
fax (409)846-5419
email ????????????????????

[ Great idea, Rick!  Why should Marvin get all the goodies, and not me
-er- us?  Scuzeme while I scribble a few words about Learjets, private
golf courses, and the finish of Habana perique... -S. ]

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From: ????????????? (Stuart M. Altschuler)
Subject: Cubans and more

Dear Steve,

While I don't participate vocally in each debate, I certainly enjoy
receiving the Digest.  It is always a welcome respite in the day.  Now on to
the Cuban stories.

In the course of my business (custom picture framing) I meet alot of
interesting people.  
and, when the topic moves in that direction, chat about cigars.  One of the
people with whm I spoke, was going on her honeymoon to Aruba.  I jokingly
suggested that  if she were a cigar smoker I would ask her to bring me back
some Cubans.  Ha ha ha!  Well, you know what they say about being careful
about what you ask for - two weeks later she returns to my shop with a
genuine Cuban cigar.  Not my favorite shape - it was 4" x 38 and I prefer a
much larger size - but delicious none the less.  Now, of course was the
dilema of where to smoke this little baby.  I couldn't think of a better
place than at my local tobbaconist.  Boy was everybody jealous when they
noticed the band with yellow and black and white checks.  Alas, after 30 far
too short minutes it was gone.  Now I eagerly awaiting and expected
selection of Cubans from a friend who will be returning from travels
overseas next week.  His sole request when I asked him to bring me back
Cuban cigars - visit him in jail when he gets caught.  I told just tell the
customs officer that we realize the cigars are contraband and intend to
destroy them.  One at a time, slowly!

Best regards,

Stuart Altschuler
Stuart M. Altschuler

Prestige Framing, Inc.
435 Newbury Street
Danvers, MA 01923

Voice & Fax: (508)777-7606

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From: ???????????????????? (MICHAEL WACHS)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #205 -- December 4, 1995

        How's it going?  I'm probably the youngest pipe smoker on the list,
as I wrote before.  Like a article in this issue, a 18 year old had an 
expierienced(sp)pipe smoker who taught him.  This is what I need.  I live
in Arizona, so if you know any good shops, please write.

[ The Guide lists two shops, Churchill's in Phoenix and McGaugh's in
Flagstaff.  Any others?  -S. ]

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From: Scott Steiner <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #205 -- December 4, 1995

Greetings!  First let me say that I'm happy every week to receive the 
Digest.  I find it entertaining and informative.  Steve really provides a 
service for us all.  Now, I try to chime in weekly with a comment or a 
question for the readers out there.  I like to smoke many different kinds 
of pipe tobacco.  I live in Southern California, and therefore have 
available to me many places that sell pipe tobacco.  I enjoy the pleasant 
smelling aromatic tobaccos out there.  Right now, I'm smoking a fantastic 
plum and vanilla mixture from The Tinder Box.  My question, however, is 
this:  Has anyone out there ever heard of a cinnamon (or similarly 
flavored) based pipe tobacco?  I know it's a weird question, but cinnamon 
is one of my favorite tastes and I just wanted to ask.  I was in Virginia 
about 6 weeks ago and talked to a tobacconist there.  He said that he 
hadn't seen one, but felt that it would be pretty easy to make.  Anyway, 
I'll shut up.  Take care everybody.

Scott Steiner

[ Wouldn't that cause a helluva bite? -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: Minneapolis shops and misc ramblings

Steve, Thanks for the great service with Pipes Digest!  I came across
the PD while checking out the Fuji Cigar Page.  I thought PD might be
interesting, so I downloaded a couple.  Well, that simply whetted my
appetite.  I have since read all the back issues, and look forward to
each new update.  Great stuff, I must admit.  And the FAQ on Humidors
is spot on!  No more soggy smokes for me.

I have not yet fired up a pipe, but I enjoy a fine cigar.  My current
favorite is the A. Fuente Double Chateau, which comes wrapped in its
own cedar closet!  The cigar (when lit properly) has a lovely hint of
cedar when smoked because of this close proximity to the wrap, I would
assume.  It is a great complement to a pot of Twinings Russian Caravan
Tea, which also has a light, woodsy/smoky flavor.  I have not yet
found the perfect single malt scotch to accompany this cigar with, but
I have tried some of the lowlands which have that smoky peat flavor.
Laphroiag and Balvenie 12 year doublewood both seen too smoky for this
cigar.  Cardu and Dahlwhinnie, (not lowland scotch) are too quiet.
Any ideas, fellow readers?

This is my first year at _seriously_ trying cigars.  In the past, I
would occasionally have a (yuk) Swisher or King Edwards out on the
deck about once a year.  Last September I visited Morton's Steak House
in Minneapolis, and came across a full humidor and Cigar Aficionado
(Bill Cosby) at the coat check.  I selected a cigar, and the gal said
it would be twelve bucks.  Too rich for my tastes at that time, so for
about five bucks I picked up CA and thought I would read about these
spendy little items before blindly clunkning down my hard- earned

Interesting rag it was!  It did not persuade me to part with twelve
bucks a smoke, but it did give me some additional knowledge for me to
make wise choices on my own.  Of course, using the I-Way to get cigar
and pipe info to my desk has been a real eye-opener.  Armed with a
small (and dangerous) amount of information, I went to the nearest
tobacconist.  I did not see him in your Guide, so you may wish to add

Tobacco Road          Other Branches are located at:
3517 Hazelton Road     831 Marquette Ave      27 South 7 St.   
Edina, MN 554??        Minneapolis MN         Minneapolis MN
in the Yorktown Mall   612/333-1315          612/???-????

I selected a few Macanudos, some in maduro wrappers, some in natural.
I believe they were the Prince Phillips.  With my wife out of town, I
savored the unwrapping of the first Maduro and the smells sent my mind
back thirty years to my grandfather's home.  These smelled just like
his den when I was five years old.  What a powerful image!  I couldn't
wait to light it!  The smell of the freshly lit cigar was wonderful.
After a short time, I started to become disappointed.  The cigar had
an awfully tight draw and it was difficult to get much smoke out of
it.  I was thoroughly disappointed by the end.  All that work to get
my first good smoke, and it was a flop!  The following evening I tried
some of the natural wrapped Macanudos, and while the smell of the
unlit cigar didn't sent me down memory lane, the smoke was divine.  I
was sold on cigars.  I tried other Macanudos, including the Caviar for
my commute, but some of the larger ones had uneven burns.

I tried another shop in town, just north of downtown Minneapolis,
which I heard had the largest walk-in humidor in town, again not in
the Digest's Guide.

Surdyk's Liquor                (612) 379-3232
303 East Hennepin Ave NE
Minneapolis, MN 55???

A much greater selection and a beautiful presentation.  The Humidor
was about the size of a two-butt kitchen, so with a few people inside,
it got tight.  One curious thing was the lighting.  Quartz-halogen
spotlights which kept the top row of 'gars warm to the touch!  The
room was cool, (70 degrees F), but I would worry about the worm
problem.  needless to say, I didn't buy any of the HOT items!  I did,
however, buy a VCentennial Churchill which was on sale.  They seemed a
bit dry to me, so I put a damp tissue in the ziplock bag for a few
days.  Dumb move!  Too much moisture, too fast, caused the wrap to
start to split at the end.  As I smoked it, the damn thing kept
splitting ahead of the burn.  Tasty smoke, but it was a disappointment
because of the split and subsequent weird burn.  I learned my lesson.
>From that point I decided all my cigars would be properly stored.
Thus enter the Humidor FAQ.  This is a MUST READ for any cigar smoker!
I have purchased some propylene glycol, oasis foam, and made some
credo units which I am keeping in wood boxes I've lined with spanish
cedar.  Much better!

While at Surdyks, I saw an ad for a cigar and port dinner.  I signed
up with a friend and we had a great time!  Davidoff #3, 3000 and
Special T (torpedo) along with four ports, grouper and duck.  Great
time and good smokes!  The real eye- opener was the Davidoff _cedar_
matches.  Four inches of wood mean only one (sometimes two) match(s)
to light up.  I did some experimentation to see if the lighting method
really made a difference, as some people claimed (see Jack Nicklson's
interview in CA summer 95).  Yup, big difference in my book.  Makes
sense too, if you see the soot that gets on things in direct contact
with the flame.  I hold the cigar in front of me, not in my mouth, and
rotate it _above_ the flame.  (hold the match nearly vertical to keep
the flame concentrated to a point) It takes a while to get the gar
evenly lit, then put it to your lips and _blow out_ before taking any
drags.  This clears out the nasties from the flame.  Try it yourself
and I think you will agree.  Unfortunately, this is nearly impossible
to do outside if there is any breeze.  I have tried this technique
with a fluid style lighter, plain wood matches, and the cedar matches.
There is a noticeable difference between each.

I have found it very difficult to locate tobacconists in the
Minneapolis/St.Paul area, so I thought I would give you a few more to
add to The Guide.  One is a news stand/baseball card/fantasy book
store with a walk-in humidor.  The selection is fairly broad and the
prices low.  It is about a block west of Tobacco Road in Edina, which
puts it that much closer for me.  Just don't expect much from the help
(although a couple of the guys know their stuff, but they are not
always available).  They also give away cigar boxes, or charge a buck
for all wood numbers.

Shinders Books
7101 France Avenue South
Edina, MN 55???
The Golden Leaf in the Calhoun Square shopping center is what I think an old-
time smoke shop should look like.  Quite a selection of pipes, accessories and 
cigars.  It is worth checking out if you are ever in the Uptown area.

Golden Leaf Tobacco
3001 Hennepin Ave So
Minneapolis MN 
Across the Mississippi River in St.Paul, there is a shop called Tobak
and News which contains some pipes, tobacco and cigars in a large
walk-in humidor stuck way in the back.  Lots of gift stuff and cards
too (yuk).  The humidor is not well stocked in my opinion, but I stop
by every week on the way to my night school classes (MBA).  The stock
is the lower end of the cigar price spectrum, but eventually I may
find some gems. I try about one or two different types each week.  I
must admit they have some very reasonably priced humidors, and for
that fact alone are worth a visit!

Tobak & News
2140 Ford Parkway
St.Paul MN  
Another spot in Minneapolis which I have not yet visited is Liquor
Depot.  I met the Cigar Consultant at a dinner this week, so I may pay
him a visit.  He must have a fun job!

Liquor Depot
1010 Washington Ave S
Minneapolis MN 

I have seen some other postings from people in the Minneapolis/St.Paul
area.  Are you guys/gals willing to share other locations?  The yellow
pages in St.Paul do not even contain Tobacconist, and in Minneapolis
there are two listing.  Seems most places that sell cigars do it as a
sideline, so they aren't listed in the yellow pages as such.  Lets
help each other out.  (Also, any cigar-friendly resaurants around?)

In closing, I wish to add the address for Lewis Pipe and Cigar, 512
Nicollet Ave So, Minneapolis MN.  Rich Lewis is in the guide under the
repair section, but he has a full collection of Davidoffs I've been
told. :) I am sure his shop is well stocked.  I have looked for the
spot in the past, but without the address, it was impossible.  I plan
to visit there soon, as he co-sponsored a smoker this last week in
Minneapolis which I brought 7 buddies to.  Great smokes and fine

Until next time, Happy Holidays and enjoy a few puffs!

David Taylor

[ Wow!  The Guide is now bulging with Minneapolis area entries, and is
gonna hit 50KB soon! And, BTW, the Humidor FAQ is courtesy of Bob
Curtis; the Digest Web site just reflects it. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest :Swan Vestas


  In response to Mark Lathem's post about Swan Vestas in the last issue- I 
I wrote to Craig Tarler at Cornell and Diehl.  He does not have any of 
these _fine_ matches around right now.  It appears that since they have 
been bought by Swedish Match, that no more will be available to the 
States for a while.  They are in production, but will be sold to Europe 
first.  Looks like we will have to conserve those few we have left <G>

  Take care,

John Millholland

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From: ?????????????? (Matt Libhart)
Subject: clay chruchwardens

To Jack Scheible,
        I must agree with you about the curchwardens, 13 is pretty salty
compared to three.  I was in Williamsburg earlier this year, June to be
exact, and I saw the pipes in the small "mercantile" type shops in
Williamsburg.  I was also at the Pottery Factory (it's imense) but didn't
see them there.  I wonder if you could mail order them?

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From: Jeff Cowan <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Hello

Dear Steve,

I read your article about pipe initialization on the WWW.  The great
tips made it really easy to break in my first pipe this weekend.  I
hope that you can answer my questions quickly because I am living in
Germany and will be returning to the US in a few days for some needed
holidays at home in California where I won't be able to email.

My question concerns the pipes you mentioned.  Albeit shopping in Germany is
difficult because of the world's most archaic opening and closing hours, but
when I went looking at several shops, I could not find either Petersons or
GBDs--what does that stand for anyways??  No one seemed to have ever heard
Petersons, I did not ask about GBDs.  I am a Denmark nut, so I wanted to get a

Petersons I presume come from Denmark.  In the shops I went to which
are not by any means all of them in Frankfurt where I live I only saw
"WO Larsen" pipes and tobaccos--the "O" in Larsen has the funny slash
in it which is used in Danish.  So my question is, do you know what
the relationship between Larsen and Petersen is?  Do they use
different names in different countries, did one take over the other
etc.  WO Larsen also makes tobaccos; I purchased a mild blend of

After a few practice smokes at home, I went to a coffee house where
two other people were smoking pipes and I could learn quite a bit by
watching them.  One guy actually had a carrying case about the size of
a large text book with about 12 pipes in it.  Then a friend joined me
and as we were talking so much I hardly smoked.  I realize now
comparing this with some of my later smokes that smoking slowly lets
the pipe cool and the smoking is more pleasent, at least for me, this
way.  Maybe it was just that the pipe I got for pretty cheap does not
cool very well.  The only two words on it are Spitfire and Vicenza, so
I don't know if it is Italian or British.  I'll have to try a rough
pipe to see if it smokes cooler like you mentioned which brings me to
my second question: do you know if Petersons also come with this rough
finish?  If so, maybe I can find one in California.

Thanks again for the wealth of information on the internet.

Jeff Cowan


[ Petersons are from Ireland; Larsen is an old Danish firm run by the
same family for generations.  The addresses of both are in the Guide.
BTW, "Spitfire" may be the worst name I've ever heard of for a pipe --
except for "Reject," one of which I own. :-) -S. ]

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From: Mark Lathem <???????????????>
Subject: Winter 95-96

For those of you who haven't had the opportunity to try the latest PCCA
Collector's Reserve Blend, "Winter 95-96," I suggest you grab a few tins
while you still can.  If you're an Oriental fan, I promise you'll enjoy it.
Terrific stuff, available from Bob Hamlin at "?????????????????????????"

While you're at it, check out the PCCA home page at:


Mark Lathem      

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From: "Vogon" <????????????????????>
Subject:       high from deepest dark africa.

After lurking ... being subscribed for the last 10 or so editions of 
the PD, I noticed a couple of other subscribers from south Africa. 

I would like to know If any of these members (South African) or any 
other well travelled members, know of any "pipe shops" in the greater 
Pretoria-Johanesburg area, as we have many "curio" shops that sell a 
few pipes and some tabacco but few actual "pipe shops".

thanks, and seasons greetings to all

less important stuff
Quote of the day:

"I can still recall old Mister Barnslow getting out every morning and 
nailing a fresh load of tadpoles to that old board of his.  Then he'd 
spin it around and around, like a wheel of fortune, and no matter 
where it stopped he'd yell out, "Tadpoles!  Tadpoles is a winner!"  
We all thought he was crazy.  But then, we had some growing up to do."
Important stuff................

M. Vogt (Onderstepoort Veterinary Institute)
tel (012) 529 9111 x2182

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From: ??????????? (Mark Tinsky)
Subject: Pipe show

Dear Steve :
Here's a follow up to my post on DC pipe Show.

I would like the couple of members of the Group who attended my pipe show
at John B Hayes Tob. on December 2cd in the DC area. It was  a pleasure
meeting poeple you ve just been writing too. Thanx to Charles Beard for
bringing up some Hogarth Tobaccos for all to sample. I liked some of the

The smoker in the morning was well attended and lots of tobacco was burned
and coffee drunk, we even sold a few pipes while swapping stories. Later
the real customers meandered off as ladies with kids in baby carriages came
in looking for a pipe for grandpa. I wished I could have left then too.

There were a few Fairfax regulars that I looked foward to seeing. Ben
Rappaport sometimes has dropped by in years past, also Warren Blatz, and
some of the guys from Corps ( Richmond)  Capt. Bob and John Weinstien. I
wonder if any of them are on line.Anyway  I missed them. The great thing
about any pipe show is you get to reaquaint yourself with a friend or
colleague as if no time has passed since your last conversation or meeting.
Change is eternal, they say, but it seems to move much slower in the pipe
world where the past is appreciated. Mark Tinsky

[ Thanks for the follow-up, Mark! -S. ]

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From: Steve Carney <?????????????????????????>
Subject: First post

Dear Steve,

I got the back issues that you sent me and spent a good part of this last 
weekend reading them. I guess it's time for my first post!

I've been smoking pipes off and on (mostly off) since I was 20 (seven 
years ago) although it wasn't until recently that I have really 
recognized pipe smoking as a hobby and as an art. Since then, I have 
worked to expand my collection and experiment with different blends. 
Being on a graduate student's budget means some really exasperating 
limits to what I can do, but I've still managed to make a few acquisitions 
lately. My most recent was a beautiful freehand made from what looks like 
a maker named Nording (it was made in Denmark). It follows my preference 
for very large pipes.  My favorite pipe is my Brebbia Iceberg (Italian). 
It's also very large, and was relatively inexpensive. As far as tobaccos 
go, I liked a blend called Wilshire for a long time, but then discovered 
a blend called Champaign, which I still like very much. Recently, though, 
I have discovered a blend called Black Cordial, which is the best tasting 
and smelling tobacco I have experienced to far. 

Pipes for me are a hobby, and not a habit. I rarely smoke more than three
bowls per week, and many times there are weeks (and occasionally months)
between smokes. My favorite time to smoke is when I am driving home from
college (St. Louis to St. Paul). Not like there is anything ELSE to do
during that ten hours, but It's still a very peaceful time for me. I drive
a VW fox, which means I have a HUGE quartz clock on the dashboard staring
me in the face for the entire voyage. This enable me to see how long I can
make a pipe full last. I haven't been at this seriously for that long, so
my record is only One hour and thirty five minutes. 

I view pipe smoking and cigarette smoking as two entirely different
things, with far more differences than similarities. For example, as a
pipe smoker, (like most all others I know) I am very respectful of what it
is that others appreciate as far as olfactory stimulation goes. I am proud
of my heightened awareness of other's reactions to my pipe. If someone
doesn't like it, or finds it offensive (which is very rare) I will simply
take it from my mouth until they are no longer around. As a one who finds 
cigarette smoke strongly objectionable, I can only dream of the day when 
cigarette smokers can mirror that type of respect. It was a surprise for 
me to discover the different "snappy comebacks" and such in response to 
unfavorable comments about pipes. I prefer a peaceful, gentle approach, 
which to me is what pipe smoking is all about. 

Well, enough for now. I wish all of the readers of the Digest a peaceful 
and restful holiday season-

Steve C

Steve Carney, MSW '96 
Washington University in St. Louis
George Warren Brown School of Social Work

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Fwd: subscription

I left out a period and this bounced back. Hope it gets to you this time.
Phil Bowling

P.S. Do you have a list of pipe clubs around the country/contact names/ and
show dates (if applicable)?
Forwarded message:

Hey guys,
I am one of the editors of a new consumer magazines on pipes; "Pipes &
Tobaccos," and would love to receive the Pipe Digest to keep a finger on the
"pulse" of the regular smokers. Have seen a few back issues and it's great
information. By the way, our magazine will debut in February.
Thanks in advance,

Phil Bowling

[ There's a club list in the Guide; I publish show announcements here
as I receive 'em, and they also appear in alt.smokers.pipes. -S. ]

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From: Rick Berger <?????????????>
Subject: Pipe Digest

Hi -

My name is Rick Berger and I'm new to the newsletter, somewhat new to
pipes/cigars (been into it for about a year).  Appreciate the information
I'm getting from this newsletter and especially the encouragement to
"educate" the prohibitionist prudes.  Yeesh, you'd think people would
have learned to leave each other alone by now ...

Anyway, first some general preferences just so you know where I'm
coming from:

   - Thus far, I've settled on the 'Bulldog' type of pipe, because
     it maintains a large mass of wood around the bowl, but is still
     carryable.  Seems to me, more wood acts like a heat sink and
     makes for a cooler smoke than the lighter pipes.  Also, a
     1/4 bend seems to reduce gurgling a bit.  A big, flat mouthpiece
     is very comfy.

   - Practically any of the blends with virginia or burley have too
     much bite for my palate.  I finally settled on Captain Black White
     Label as the best drugstore blend.

   - TinderBox has straight black cavendish that they market under
     the name "Midnight".  It's pretty great, but blending in a little
     latakia moderates the sweetness somewhat, gives it more body, and
     absorbs a *lot* of the moisture.

   - On tobaccos - a conclusion I'm coming to is I need to sample all
     the non-blended forms first - the "primary colors" if you will -
     to determine the base character of each.  That way, I can tell
     what I'm getting in the blends.  Otherwise, it's just a
     confusing hodge-podge.  I noticed that this was rather difficult
     with latakia.  All it did was swell up on heating and block the
     draw completely.  This too is informative ...

On to other things -

I just completed a couple of weeks in Europe, going from Venice to
Paris via Southern France.  Here are some "pipe/tobacco" observations
of that region from an American perspective:

   - The most ubiquitous drugstore brand available is Amphora.  It's
     absolutely *everywhere*.  In France, the next most available seems
     to be Gaullois (sp? - comes in a blue packet).  Didn't try it.

   - Although warnings to the contrary from my non-smoking friends,
     smoking in Europe doesn't seem to be as prevalent as it may have
     been in the past.  Trains have an even number of smoking and
     and non-smoking cars; there are a *lot* more no-smoking signs
     than you would think.  I *could* puff in more places than in the
     US - notably restaurants - but there were non-smoking sections in
     many (which is fine).  I almost got kicked out of a street market
     boulangerie for walking in with lighted pipe (not so fine).  I
     covered over the bowl, made a quick purchase and a quicker exit.

     Be aware.  I basically just looked around when I was in a store
     or public transport.  If people weren't smoking, I didn't either.

   - Picked up an interesting pipe in Venice, made out of olive-wood.
     Don't know if anyone has ever tried this, but it's different.
     It's not broken in yet, but thus far it imparts a distinct
     olive-ish taste at the end of the bowl.  Doesn't work with the
     sweetish black tobaccos I tend to lean towards, but might be
     interesting with other blends.

   - Pipes are available in many stores in Paris, and at reasonable
     prices.  The most outrageous store I found is a place called
     "Le Pipes De Cogolin".  They have three stores, one in Paris,
     one in Saint-Tropez and one in Cogolin, next to the fabricant
     (they feature pipes made by Courrieu).  Here are the
     addresses/phone nos:

	   Le Pipes De Cogolin 		

           129 Rue St. Honore		25, Quai Gabriel Peri
           75001 Paris, France		83990 Saint-Tropez, France

	   42 et 58, av. Clemencau
	   83310 Cogolin, France

     In Paris, the store is on Rue St. Honore, just off Rue De Louvre
     and one block north of Rue Rivoli (Rivoli borders the Louvre).

     It's awesome.  More pipes than I've ever seen in one place - big
     ones, little ones, long ones, short ones, meerschaums, meerschaum
     inserts, full bend, no bend, and on and on.  I was gazing at all
     the pipes on the racks and on all the walls, and then the sales
     lady came over and opened a longish drawer *below* the racks. 
     I almost fell over - drawers and drawers full of pipes, sorted
     by style and price.  The selection was truly overwhelming.

     The sales person (didn't get her name) was extremely helpful, and
     was very interested in helping me get the style I was looking for
     and in my price range.  That was one of the very nice things -
     if I liked a particular style, but it was too expensive,
     she worked very hard to find a similar style in a less expensive
     pipe.  I wound up picking up a big solid bulldog that is just
     supremely comfortable in my hand (first over $100 pipe I've owned).
     Also picked up a novelty piece: a suede wrapped canadian. This
     was around $35 (haven't looked at the conversion rate, yet).

     Interestingly enough, they do not sell tobacco.  Apparently the
     state requires them to sell a bunch of other sundry items if
     they're going to sell tobacco so, rather than get into all that,
     they just stick with the pipes.

     (A side question:  All of the european pipes seem to be sold with
     metal inserts projecting from the mouthpiece into the stem.
     These are various geometries and have varying slots in them to
     allow the smoke to come through.  Does anyone know what these are
     called and what is their purpose?  For my part, I think they cause
     the pipe to gurgle more quickly and mess up the draw.  I wind up
     taking them out.  Just curious.)

   - Nowhere could I find the equivalent of a good tobacco store in
     Paris.  There are plenty of places advertising "Tabac" - practically
     on every street corner - but they are limited to mostly cigarettes
     and packaged, "drug-store" pipe tobaccos (Amphora always available).
     The full service tobacco store with jars of interesting smelling
     stuff was nowhere to be found.  Maybe knowleable Gauls head for
     London for their pipe stuffings, or do mail order.

   - On the cigar side, there are a few humidors around with reasonable
     if not huge selections, almost all Cuban.  I tried a Cohiba corona
     size, but had quite a reaction to it.  Interestingly enough, it
     was fine until I stopped.  Then I got *extremely* sick.  Oh, well,
     back to Dominicans & pipes for me :).

Hope readers of the newsletter find this interesting.  I'm not a
tremendously knowleable epicurean on pipes and tobaccos, but am always
interested in learning more and sharing observations.  Next project is to
try some of the Cornell and Diehl tobaccos and see what they're all about.

Rick Berger -						?????????????

	"The unexamined life is not worth living." - Plato
	"The unlived life is not worth examining." - Churchill

[ The last gets the Quote of the Week! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????????
Subject: pipes and professors

        "One way to explain what graduate students undergo
in order to become professors is to say that no doctoral
candidate should be allowed to graduate until he has the
lenses in his glasses changed to a stronger prescription at
least three times, he grows a coffee-cup extension on one
hand, and his other hand becomes a cigarette holder.  There
is some truth to this statement inasmuch as graduate school
is hard on the eyes and the nerves.  But in order for such
changes to be good training for a professorship, the final
part of the expression should be changed from cigarette to
pipe.  A pipe can be a professor's good friend, for it is
one of the world's best defense mechanisms.
        "When a professor is asked a question that he cannot
answer or one that requires him to take a stand, he needs
time to think.  A pipe provides this.  You can always pause
to light it, for a pipe is constantly going out.  Or, if you
need more time, you can pour out the dottle, reload it, and
then light it.  And in extreme cases, you can do all that
and clean the pipe.  Perhaps it is this quality of the pipe
-- it's usefulness in gaining time to think -- that causes
so many professors to adopt them."

                      _This Beats Working for a Living,_
                      Professor "X" (Odie B. Faulk)

Jay R. Dew
The University of Oklahoma
Norman, OK

[ Would that it were true today, Jay! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????
Subject: Introduction and Questions

        About myself, I'm a 22 year old first year law student at the
University of Miami. I have been smoking cigarettes for a while, mostly
Drum. Tried to figure out how to smoke pipes when I was 18 and failed.
Recently I took a ten month hiatus from smoking until the stress of law
school got to me. Started to smoke pipes again a few weeks ago because
of all the odd stares I was getting for hand-rolling my own cigarettes.
This time I read *Weber's Guide to Pipes & Pipe Smoking* by Carl Weber
and *The Gentle Art of Smoking* by Alfred Dunhill to figure how to care
for a pipe and keep it lit. Which leads to a few questions (I apologize
if I am asking FAQs.):
1. Should I tamp and relight every so often even if my pipe hasn't gone
   out? And, does the tobacco become bitter/bad when re-lit?
2. Should I take apart the pipe to clean it every time or just run a
   pipe cleaner done the stem after I'm finished?
3. After how many bowls will I build up a cake? And, how many until
   I need to trim the cake? I've been told I shouldn't worry about it.
4. How much should a meerschuam with a tracery pattern or head carving
   (2.5"Hx2"W) cost and what should I look for? Any mail order sources?
5. Anyone know of any pipe shows coming up in Miami?
6. Other than A&M Gazette and The Pipe Smoker's Ephemeris should I 
   subcribe to or join anything else?
        I will try to review some of the local tobacconists in South
Florida. Also, if any PDers are at the University of Miami, as the
saying goes, "I'll smoke a pipe with you with pleasure."
        If I don't post sooner, happy holidays to all!

Homayoon Saedi

[ 1a: If it's burning badly, yes; 1b: only if it's been sitting a
while; 2: if you can get the cleaner through it without taking it
apart, do so, unless it has a goo trap; 3: not that I'm aware of; 4:
several (maybe 5-10); 5: I'll let the meerschaum fans answer this; 6:
possibly, but I don't. Any that happen will be advertised here, or in
one of the journals in 7; 7: the Ohio Pipe Club newsletter, "Pipe
Friendly," and Tobacconist Magazine might be worth a look. The first
two in the Guide, the last is later in this issue; 8: the original
flames from which the Digest was born surrounded Elias Mazur's
"rec.pipes" proposal. a.s.p was newgrouped with nary a ripple of
dissent; 9: take any of the first 8 items with a grain of Latakia (in
lieu of salt. :-) -S. ]

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From: "A. W. Donovan-Shead" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Smoke Signal #20 [CHRISTMAS]

Smoke Signal #20

Christmas 1995: This year, instead of Christmas cards, I wrote for my
family and friends a short story to continue the Christmas storytelling
tradition. What follows was prompted by a set of stories written by
Robertson Davies, the Canadian author who died recently, aged 82. He
wrote his stories to be spoken aloud at the Gaudy Night of Massey
College. My story, "Scramble", has nothing to do with pipes, cigars, or
tobacco. Please print a copy and tell it at your family gathering on
Christmas night. Those of you uninterested can search forward for the
string *** Finis *** bypassing the following text.

"Scramble" is for your enjoyment and may not be used for commercial
purposes. I reserve the right to retain the copyright and be named as
the author of this work.


                     Tales from the Stagger Home
                         Andrew Donovan-Shead

                Copyright 1995 by Andrew Donovan-Shead

In the year 1980 I returned to civilian life, after serving ten years
in the ranks of the Royal Air Force. At the time I was living in
barracks at RAF Uxbridge and thought of T.E.  Lawrence whom the RAF
stationed there too.  However, that is another story entirely.
Uxbridge was for me a halfway house between The Mob and my civilian
employment at the British Airways Training Centre, Cranebank. It was in
July of that year that I started work there, assigned to the
maintenance of the Boeing-737, the latest addition to the fleet of
flight simulators. Boasting a motion system with six-degrees of freedom
and a powerful VAX-11/780 computer made by Digital Equipment, the
American computer company, it was sophisticated equipment for the time.
Rather than indulge myself in a long harangue on the technical
intricacies of the full-flight simulator, let me "cut to the chase" as
they say in the moving picture trade: flight simulators give a good
representation of a flying aircraft.

By August, I was well settled in my new work, rubbing along with my
supervisor, Peter, and the other members of the team. We were working
the graveyard shift. Early one morning, around one o'clock, we had
finished our routine maintenance on the simulator and I was working on
some software in the computer room. As I worked, I heard some relays
energise, heard some activity from the disk-storage units, and, in the
distance, heard the whine of the hydraulic pumps starting. No, this is
usual. I assumed that Peter was taking the simulator for a test-flight.
Let into the door of the computer room was a panel of glass, yet I had
seen none go by down the corridor, however, I was working and could
have missed Peter on his way to the simulator. While I continued with
my work, I could hear the vigorous swish, swishing from the hydraulic
jacks that told me Peter was putting the machine through an extensive
set of evolutions. Some thirty minutes later, I heard clicking from
relays as they deenergised in the main interface and a sharp drop in
disc activity, which told me Peter had landed, repositioning the
machine at the end of our simulated runway at Heathrow.

Leaving the computer room, I walked down the corridor and out onto the
mezzanine of the high-bay, in time to see the simulator settle on its
jacks, with a huge sigh from the depleting pressure in the hydraulic
system. Once the simulator was at rest, the access ramp lowered itself
automatically, like a drawbridge, allowing me to walk across the gulf
to the mechanical island that was the simulator. On sliding open the
door, to my surprise I found the cockpit empty. Inside, I looked all
around -- nothing. Disconcerted, I went downstairs to the crew-room and
found Peter drinking tea while working on some papers.

"Peter, I heard the simulator start-up, run for thirty minutes, and
then shutdown. I thought you were flying, but when I went on board it
was empty. What's going on?"

"It's an intermittent fault we can't find," said Peter. "We used to
push the emergency-stop buttons, but we found the machine suffered no
damage. When it happens, we let it go unless we are standing within
reach of an emergency-stop."

"Haven't you tried to find out what is wrong?"

"Yes, Andy, we have, but like I said, it is intermittent, it's been
months since we last had a problem. Anyway, since it's started
acting-up again, why don't you look into it. You're new here and it
will give you an opportunity to learn more about the machine."


A few weeks later, I had an opportunity to look into this little
problem, about the 10th of September I think it was, by that time I
know I had left Uxbridge and moved to my cottage in Emsworth, on the
South Coast. Despite the long drive each day to work, a total of three
hours of commuting, I felt much easier living in my own abode. I had
settled down to the routine of working a rotating shift system. Again,
our team was on the graveyard shift, and again I was in the computer
room when I heard the simulator start, I was working on a programme to
make visual databases easier to construct. When I heard the activity of
the machine, I called the crew-room by telephone. Peter answered and
said that no one should be in the simulator. Taking this as my cue, I
began my investigation of this strange phenomenon.  I tried to log-in
to the computer from the master console, but found myself locked out.
Next, I went out onto the mezzanine and watched the evolutions of the
motion system, much more extravagant than what you see from a pilot
practicing ordinary Line Oriented Flight Training, the motion bucked
and twisted like an unbroken horse at a rodeo contest. Strange too was
the environmental sound system that had become incoherent, for instead
of the whine of turbines I could hear a staccato rattle that increased
and decreased in frequency with the movement of the motion system, or
like the sound of an overexcited bee. Not able to see what was
happening, I pushed the emergency-stop button. Once the drawbridge had
lowered, I walked across to the darkened simulator.

Inside the simulator, I found nothing, although the atmosphere was much
colder than I should have expected, and angry electrical static charged
the air, prickling the hairs on the nape of my neck, in me causing an
involuntary shudder. It was as though someone had stepped on my grave
and I shivered again and swallowed. I walked back to the computer room
in haste, with that uneasy feeling between the shoulder blades that
attends an unprotected back. Having gained the brightly illuminated
safety of the computer room, I tried again to log-in at the master
console, this time with success. Checking the error logs, I could find
nothing wrong.

During the next three days nothing happened, everything in the
simulator worked as normal, we had no unattended operation of the
machine. On the night of the 14th of September, I was standing on the
floor of the high-bay, next to the hydraulic control cabinet, wondering
why we had no further activity. When I noticed the gate onto the
drawbridge standing, open, as it had on the previous three nights, I
understood why we had not seen any activity. With the gate open the
safety interlocks would be incomplete and nothing would work. By now it
was too late to do anything further as our shift was at an end.

We were at work again on the 15th September, this time I made sure that
the gate was closed. I waited in the computer room. When I heard the
relays click, I looked at my watch and noted the time standing at one
o'clock. Walking down, and out onto the floor of the high-bay, I
watched the wild gyrations of the motion platform, and listened to the
maniac sound of the runaway sound system. Soon, the motion-system gave
a violent jerk and pitched forward, nose-down and the sound system
emitted harsh noise of increasing pitch, then silence, then the
depletion valves opened on the hydraulic pack. The motion platform
settled back on an even keel. The drawbridge lowered itself and I ran
up the stairs onto the mezzanine and across the bridge to the

Pulling open the door, I recoiled at the smoke -- simulated smoke. Once
it had started to clear, I stepped inside and could smell something
other underlying the smell of hot glycol.  It was a smell out of place
that I am sure I would have identified in other circumstances. Once the
smoke had cleared, I found everything normal. I logged into the
computer from the onboard maintenance terminal and checked the error
logs, this time I found a crash condition caused by excessive G-forces
on the airframe.  Nevertheless, I was puzzled still, but we had no more
incidents. Strange activity of the simulator stopped on the 15th of
September. Some months later I came to a partial understanding that
completely unnerved me.


In June or July of the following year, I was visiting my brother at
Mareham-le-Fen. As chance would have it, they invited me to attend the
village fete on the Saturday afternoon.  Its official opening was at
noon on the village football pitch. We had locked the house and were
walking down the lane when I heard the rising note of a powerful engine
approaching.  Suddenly, that familiar staccato rattle was overhead and
gone, the lone aircraft disappeared behind the trees. My heart raced
and my face must have betrayed my emotion because they asked me if I
were feeling well.

"Yes. Yes," I replied and stood still.

Before long that aircraft returned at a very low altitude, the pilot
executing a slow roll as he passed over the fete, then climbed away.
Silhouetted against the flat grey of the high overcasting clouds, I had
a perfect view of the elegant, elliptical plan-form of the wings.
Within a minute or two, the pilot finished his exhibition, climbing to
pattern-altitude, in readiness for landing back at RAF Coningsby, home
to the Battle-of-Britain Flight. Now I understood the cause of the
problems with our simulator, but I could not admit this kind of
knowledge to anyone, not in this prosaic age. I kept quiet and walked
on to the fete, to the beer tent where I stood outside with a pint of
Bateman's Best Bitter in my hand, listening to the excellencies of the
Mareham-le-Fen Silver Band, and contemplating how I should handle this
problem in the coming months, because I was sure now that the simulator
would begin to act as before towards the end of August.


My work-shift arrangements did not coincide with the graveyard watch
for the entire month of August 1981, for the first week of September I
was too sick with influenza to be working. Luckily, my work schedule
showed me assigned to graveyards during those critical few days leading
up to the 15th of September. Having arranged to keep the safety-gate
open, on the drawbridge to the simulator, during the early hours of
Saturday the 12th and Sunday, 13 September, I prepared myself for the
early morning of Monday, 14 September. Let me say that I am no brave
heart, I was on tenterhooks and nearly talked myself out of this
curious adventure.

At half past the hour of midnight on the Monday morning, I walked
across the drawbridge to the simulator, closing the gate behind me.
Inside, I slid the cockpit door shut. I repositioned the simulation to
the beginning of runway two-seven-left at Heathrow, sat in the
co-pilot's seat on the right-hand side of the cockpit, and waited for
what I felt sure would arrive in force, having thwarted it with my
careful attention during the previous few days.

Since my visit to Mareham-le-Fen, I had looked into the events of 1940
and the Battle-of-Britain. Air Marshal Dowding conducted air operations
from RAF Bentley Priory, against the Luftwaffe under the command of
Reichs Marshal Go	ring. Dowding had about six-hundred aircraft at his
disposal, with aircrews inexperienced in aerial combat, unlike the
opposing forces of the Luftwaffe who had ample opportunity to gain
valuable training over Spain. Dowding's plan was to husband his forces,
to live to fight another day. He had issued standing orders for the
defenders to engage the bomber fleets of the Luftwaffe only, to leave
the fighter escorts well alone. Messerschmitt's BF109 fighters were
well-flown, but lack of fuel limited their engagement time over
England. Usually, the Spitfire could outmanoeuvre the BF109, but it did
not perform well at high altitudes and was subject to engine stoppage
when pulling negative G-force, which inhibited operation of the engine
carburettors.  Pressurized fuel injection kept the BF109 engine running
at all attitudes.

"All sections scramble! Seventy-plus bandits approaching, angels

The cockpit of the simulator went dark, starting me from my reverie.
Suddenly, the atmosphere became very cold, accompanied by a dramatic
buildup in electrical static. I reached to grasp the control column, to
adjust myself in my seat, and received a startling static discharge
that produced a pink spark between the control-wheel and my hand, which
I withdrew in haste. On came the power to the cockpit and I felt the
motion-base rise from its settled position. Seized by an urge, I got
out of the co-pilot's seat and sat in the Captain's seat, on the port
side of the cockpit. After strapping myself in, I moved the seat
forward and looked out at the visual system. To my utter amazement we
were at Heathrow no longer. It was daylight and I was looking across
open grass from what looked like a dispersal point of a military
airfield. Odd too was the motion system of the simulator sitting lower
aft than forward, and the environmental sound system produced the sound
of a propeller driven by a reciprocating engine. And instead of the
Horizontal and Vertical Situation Indicators glowing in colour on the
multifunction displays, I saw a black and white reproduction of a
blind-flying panel, standard in aircraft of the late 1930s. Looking
across to my right, I saw that the buildup of electrical energy in the
co-pilot's seat, on the starboard side, had coalesced into the
unworldly blue aura of St. Elmo's Fire, it shimmered, fizzed, and
crackled around the seat, the control wheel, the throttle levers, and
the rudder pedals.

The throttles moved forward from idle and the brakes released. We
started to roll forward onto a concrete taxiway. Looking out forward, I
saw us turning left and right, snaking our way to the point where we
would begin our takeoff roll. At each jink to the right, I had a
glimpse of the way ahead. Very soon, we turned into wind and the
throttles moved all the way forward and the control column moved all
the way back. I heard the engine note rise to a full-throated roar.
Looking out of the cockpit to my left, I saw us moving rapidly past gun
emplacements, saw uniformed men working. We moved past aircraft hangers
of another age.  As we gained speed, the control column moved forward
enough to raise our tail off the ground, and I could see forward more
clearly. Within moments, the ground fell away, we were airborne. I felt
the thump of the undercarriage retract into the wings. We turned
Southeast, climbing the while as hard as we could, to gain the
advantage of height and the sun. I switched the cockpit loudspeakers to
the radio telephone channel and heard a woman's voice giving directions
to engagement with the enemy in calm, measured tones. I felt a shudder
run through the airframe and heard the sound of our eight machine-guns
firing, another short burst to test their mettle.

Looking down and to the left, I saw London spread out, but not the
London I know for there was no Post Office Tower and other high-rise
buildings. Palls of smoke were rising from the dockland area of the
East End. Barrage balloons floated serenely above the destruction on
the ground. We flew over Kent. As we crossed the coastline, I saw one
set of towers that comprised part of the Chain Home radar system, the
system that was giving us flying directions via the plotting room back
on the ground. Now we were out over the channel and below, far ahead, I
could see the enemy bomber fleet advancing to its target. We had gained
the advantage of height with the sun behind us, the aerial equivalent
of Nelson getting the weather-gauge of the enemy fleet.

"Tally Ho!"

Rolling into a dive onto the formation below, we dived through the
protective umbrella of fighters, onto the bombers. We chose a leader.
Our speed had increased to a dangerous level. I heard our engine
throttled back and watched us draw closer and closer, until I could see
the occupants of the bomber's cockpit. I felt and heard our
machine-guns fire and saw the enemy's canopy shatter, bits of Plexiglas
blew away in the slipstream. In the few seconds we had the bomber in
sight, we raked it from stem to stern. From then on the motion of the
cockpit was violent as we pulled up and joined the melee of fighting
aircraft, a dogfight of the most vicious kind.

Out of ammunition, we broke off the attack and returned the way we had
come, back to the airfield where we described a gentle curve into the
wind and executed a perfect three-point landing, taxing back to our
dispersal. We stopped. Dark went the cockpit. It grew warmer and the
power returned. When I looked in the direction of the co-pilot, the St.
Elmo's Fire was gone. Multifunction displays had returned to their
colourful graphics. Looking out, I saw we were sitting back at Heathrow
and the visual system had returned to its dusk-night display. In spite
of the warmth, I shivered and walked out of the machine onto the
drawbridge. I was drenched in a sweat. It was as though I had been
transported in time to the past of 1940. The clock on the wall said I
had been gone thirty minutes; it seemed a lot longer. Somewhat dazed
from my unusual experience, I went home about eight o'clock on the
Monday morning.


Early morning shift-work has never agreed with my constitution. When I
got home, I went to bed and was up and about again at one o'clock in
the afternoon, grilling some pork chops for my dinner. While waiting
for them to cook, I stepped into the garden of my house and fell to
wondering what I should do with the simulator early morning Tuesday, 15
September. Standing there, just outside the kitchen door, I remembered
again the strange smell I noted when last I found the simulator full of
smoke. An odd thing because it was quite palpable and getting stronger
by the moment. I turned into the kitchen and quickly grabbed the
grilling pan and carried my flaming chops out into the garden, my pork
burnt to inedible blackness. Well, I have heard of humans described by
cannibal tribesman as Long Pig, and understood what had happened on the
15th of September 1940, the temporal remains of that unquiet soul of a
pilot had crashed and burned in his Spitfire. What was I to do to lay
this poor fellow to rest?

What, too, was I to do about my lunch? Putting on my coat, I left my
house, locked the door behind me and walked across the fields to
Emsworth, down Queen Street, across the Square to the Coal Exchange
public house. Calling for a pint of Gale's HSB, I spoke for a hot pasty
with chips and peas, sat considering the facts as I saw them, but first
I gazed into the amber beer, mentally saluting the pilot, a pilot who,
having gone for a burton, got short measure and stuck between two
worlds. Much better than Burton's, the HSB slipped down to whet my
appetite already sharp from the brisk walk.

Something must have happened during the battle of the 15th to cause
this soul so much unrest. Also, I noted that the simulator had crashed
because of excessive G-forces acting on the airframe. Of course, an
aircraft out of control and falling from the sky would soon experience
such forces. Pilots had to bail-out directly before the uncontrolled
G-force became intolerable, making parachuting to safety difficult or
impossible. Elevated by a third pint of Gale's Horndean Special Bitter,
I wended my way home to sleep in readiness for my adventure.


Monday evening: I remember little of my drive up the A3 to London,
Heathrow and the Cranebank Training Centre. Early tomorrow morning
would be the anniversary of the Battle-of-Britain, the anniversary of
the demise of my pilot, the manifestation of whom would take over the
simulator in a desperate attempt to adjust its eternal fate. It would
not succeed, that spirit, not unless I gave it some help.

At half past midnight, I seated myself in the Boeing-737 simulator,
with the gate onto the drawbridge closed, but this time I seated myself
at the instructor's operating console, with my seat belt fastened
securely because I was sure I was in for a rough ride. After
repositioning the simulator to the approach end of runway
two-seven-left, and displaying the area map on the instructor's control
and display unit, I sat and waited, not without some trepidation.

As usual, a sharp drop in the temperature of the cockpit alerted me.
Again the prickle of static electricity caused an involuntary shudder
in me. All power to the cockpit was removed, to return some moments
later. I saw the motion system warning-light start to flash and felt
the motion-base rise and settle into that tail-down attitude. At the
co-pilot's station, I saw St. Elmo's Fire flicker an ethereal blue
around the seat, control column, throttle quadrant, and rudder pedals.
We received instructions from the plotting room at Bentley Priory.
Glancing at the area map on the instructor's console, I saw that we
were repositioned to an airfield a little to the South of London.
Looking out at the visual, I saw us taxi from our dispersal, taking-off
in haste.

We were late, no doubt because a link in the Chain Home radar was off
the air. This time we did not have the advantage of height or the sun.
We engaged the enemy closely, so close, less than the two hundred and
fifty yards at which our guns were harmonized, much less than the
official harmonization of six-hundred and fifty yards. We brought down
two of the attacking bombers before we ourselves were attacked by an
escorting fighter. I glimpsed the BF109 as we plunged, and soared,
twisted, and turned trying to gain the upper hand.

By making a near vertical dive for the ground, the Luftwaffe pilot
broke off the attack.  I sensed he was now short of fuel or out of
ammunition. Instead of turning again to the bombers, we dived in
pursuit. I felt my pulse race as we approached our crisis. Quickly, I
scanned the instructor's console and rapidly pressed the
"Crash-Inhibit" button, followed by the "Fuel-Freeze" button to
override the stress section of the flight dynamics programme and the
computer calculated consumption of fuel. Not a moment too soon. Our
quarry ahead executed the beginning of a deft Immelmann Turn and was on
our tail in an instant. I felt the impact of twenty millimetre cannon
shells on our airframe. My pilot was knocked unconscious for I saw the
controls go slack. We spun down through what remaining height we had
left and the cockpit started to fill with smoke. Immediately, I donned
the instructor's smoke mask, and just saw the green fields of England
in a whirling blur before the smoke in the cockpit obscured them. My
pilot recovered his senses. I heard the scream of the engine abate with
the throttles snapped back to idle. With a loud crackle of static, the
smoke parted, and I saw the control column and rudder pedals moving to
counteract the direction of spin.  Around the control column the blue
electrical charge glowed bright and the column moved aft. We pulled out
of our dive with not more than fifty feet to spare. As we did so, the
throttle moved forward and the engine picked up in its revolutions. We
climbed to one hundred feet above ground level before the engine
stopped dead, seized from overheating caused by the loss of its glycol
coolant. We made a wheels-up dead-stick landing; we pancaked in a
ploughed field.

In the sudden silence, I took a deep breath and relaxed the crushing
grip I had taken on the arms of my seat. Fans extracted the glycol
fumes from the cockpit. The St. Elmo's Fire detached itself from the
co-pilot's controls and coalesced into a plasma the size of a soccer
ball and moved across the cockpit to hang just in front of my face. I
was too numb to flinch away and sat there looking into its blue
luminescence, for some moments. I felt examined, noticed the ball
diminishing, smaller and smaller. Soon it was the size of a pea and
with a pop it was gone. My forearms tingled. My stomach was wound
tight. Waves of hot and cold swept over me. I had hyperventilated. Out
of the simulator, I rushed to the bathroom where I vomited copiously.

Back in the crew-room, I told Peter that I had to go home as I was
feeling ill.

"You look as though you have seen a ghost, Andy. Well, we'll see you
tomorrow if you are feeling any better."

                            *** Finis ***


[ Thanks, and I hope that the members will indulge us in this. Happy
holidays, Andrew! -S. ]

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From: Kim Bailey <??????????????????????????>
Subject:  Obtaining Condor from England

   Greetings to this Glorious Pipe Band!!

   In answer to some questions concerning the acquisition of
   Condor Flake (since it is no longer imported)
   the following might help.

   There are several Tobacco Shops in London, England which
   are allowed to EXPORT English Tobacco Products to
   individuals in the USA  
   (also known as "Her Majesty's Colonies in the Americas)  8=))

   The best way to order is BY Phone, with a Credit Card.
   These shops all accept American Express, Visa, Master Card.
   Your credit card company will xlate Pounds Sterling to 
   US $ on your statement.
   Also, you will NOT have to pay the Heavy VAT and Tobacco
   tax imposed on smokers in Great Britain.

   The only restriction I have experienced is that some
   shops may only sell in 1 Kg. lots.
   That would mean 20 50g tins or packets combined
   of various pipe tobaccos.
   But, what the heck, if it is something you like,
   get 20 tins. !! :-)

   Now follows the shops with which I have delt:

     1).  G. Smiths & Sons
          74 Charing Cross Road
          London, WC2
          Tel:  0171-836-7422

     2).  James J Fox & Robert Lewis
          19 St. James Street
          London, SW1
          Tel:  0171-493-9009

     3).  Harrods Dept. Store :
          run by James J. Fox
          Knightsbridge; London, SW1
          Tel: 0171-730-1234 Extension 3359

    Now, from these stores, you will be able to obtain
    Condor, Ogdens St. Julien, Ogdens Walnut Flake,
    Players Navy Flake (VERY GOOD!),
    Germain's Plum Cake, Digger Flake, Ogden's Best brown Flake,
    Murry's Mild Mixture (very good!), Murry's Yachtsman,
    and MANY, MANY, More English Mixtures!!!!   8=))))

     A 4th shop, Dunhills, is listed below. You will be suprised to
     discover that some of their OLD mixtures are still available,
     but ONLY from Dunhills in London!
     They will also ship directly to individuals in the USA.

     4).  Alfred Dunhill Ltd
          30 Duke Street, St James's
          London, SW1
          Tel: 0171-499-9566

     They will, if you give them your FAX #,
     send you a list of what is available.

     I have been able to obtain the following mixtures:
       Aperitife, Mr. Alfred's Own, Durbar, #27, 3 Year Matured,
       #72 ( contains > 52% Latakia!), #10, Duke St. Mix, 
       etc. etc. etc.: These are all in Vacuum Sealed Tins.

          Note: I have no commercial affiliation with any shops
                in London.  I am an applied Mathematician and
                Computer Programmer.

          Happy holidays to all,  Happy Smoking!!!!!

          K. R. Bailey

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From: ???????????????????? (Nanosh J. Lucas)
Subject: Pulvers' Prior Briar

Just a quick message for anyone interested in our FAST disappearing
selection of pipes (and tobacco) over the internet & snail mail - the
address is http://www.netreach.com/busonweb/Sherlocks/

I've been smoking a variation of Sublime Porte - it's the best I've had so
far.  I haven't tried too much else, but I will soon...

Nanosh J. Lucas
Netreach Communications
P.O. Box 52044
Palo Alto, CA  94303
Phone: 415-691-0338
Email: ????????????????????

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From: JOHN TURNER <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #205 -- December 4, 1995

Dear Steve,

Re: Condor.

Although not listed in our current catalogue, we stock Condor Regular, Condor
Mild and Condor Ready Rubbed  and will happily Mail order to anyone who wants

Contact :-

John Turner
Quality Tobacco UK
2A High Street
United Kingdom

Fax 44 1749 870797
E-Mail ??????????????????????????

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From: ????????????????? (romero-marshall and)
Subject: email addreess change

As of  December 16, my new email address is
Moving cities-new provider

A quick note to say thank you for the Pipes Digest, It is Great!
and a quick question. Have you read the premire issue of SMOKE mag
and what did you think?

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From: ??????????? (Mark Tinsky)
Subject: pipe info archive

Dear Steve
I m passing on a idea sort of from Pete Siegel. A lot of times people
answer posts with reasonably technical replies that I think are worthyof
being saved. Such as the thread on buffing wheel ste ups. Its not something
that needs to be in the FaQ but it something that seems to come up alot.
Would it be possible to organize and archive some of these subjects?

As presently I have no acess to a web server could this be done in
conjunction with P.D.? My brother is working in becoming a web site sever
it will probably be a few months. I hope to do a web page then and maybe
could get some space at tthat time . Let me know what you think of the
>From Pete:

My e-mail address is:    ???????????????????

 ...and I have made contact with Mark.

There have been some questions about the quality of Alpha and Dr.
Grabow pipes.  I did a post about a week ago in which I discussed the
quality of briar which goes into pipes.  If anyone has a copy of that
post, you might want to re-post it for these folks.  If I get the chance
later I might do a chart corresponding to hat I mentioned in that post.

[ Yr. Moderator has been (and will likely continue to be) a bit lax in
the preparation of the FAQ.  I could suggest the search engine on the
Web page, in lieu of this.  If you'd like to do some organization,
please feel free, and I'll ask Steve Beaty to put in a hot link. -S. ]

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From: pat baldwin <?????????????????????>

Mr. Masticola: PequeM-qo Press has just released a new miniature book
called THE CIGAR BOOK. We would like to get it into your Pipes Digest
as a feature or review to let your subscribers know about it. Please
take a moment to check out our page and see if this isn't something
every cigar enthusiast would love to have...

Thank you very much,      Pat Baldwin / PequeM-qo Press

[ Consider it done, Pat! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: new mag/help wanted

Have enjoyed reading my first Pipes Digest. Now I want more. As editor of a
trade magazine--Tobacconist (formerly Retail Tobacconist); and senior editor
of a new consumer magazine--Pipes & TOBACCOS, which will hit the stands in
February, I need your help.

First, please add Tobacconist to your resource guide list:
Tobacconist Magazine
3000 Highwoods Blvd.,
Suite 300, Box P
Raleigh, N.C. 27604
Ph. (919) 872-5040
Fx. (919) 876-6531

Also add Pipes & TOBACCOS to the list:
3000 Highwoods Blvd.,
Suite 300, Box P
Raleigh, N.C. 27604
Ph. (919) 872-5040
Fx. (919) 876-6531

My final request is that you would ask other Pipes Digest members to e-mail
me at ?????????????????? to let me know the specifics of their pipe clubs,
pipe shows and pipe dinners.
When responding, please tell me: a) the name of the club; b) if it's
affilitated with a tobacco shop; c) the city the club serves; d) how long the
club has been around, the number of members and, e) a contact person and how
I can get more information about the group via e-mail, snail mail and phone.
     I would like to compile something of a list for my magazines and,
unfortunately, haven't been able to determine  some of this data from the
resource guide. And if you have had experience with a pipe dinner, I would
like to hear from you as well.

     For those who would like more information about the new consumer
magazine and its subscription rates, just e-mail me. I don't want my first
posting to sound too much like a commercial. After all, with all this
jabbering, my pipe may go out!

Phil Bowling

[ Consider it done, Phil! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: PD - Clean Air?

Here in Minnesota we are in the middle of winter (yes, I realize we
have not even had the Winter Solstice yet, but when the wind-chill
factor is -50F, you KNOW it's Winter!). This time of year is not
conducive to sitting outside for a smoke. I would like to smoke
inside, but the stale smoke smell inside the house is unacceptable to
both me and my wife. I have an electronic air filter on my furnace
already, and it still takes a couple of days to clear the smell.

What techniques have fellow Digest readers used to solve the stale
smoke issue?

I have seen _smokers candles_ in some of the smoke shops and they have a small 
green core of some material that must burn with the candle to either mask or 
eliminate the odors.  How do they work?

Has anyone added a special air filtration system to a room or exhaust fans?

On another note, My favorite smokes are the A. Fuente Chateau or
Double Chateau with the maduro wrapper.  Very nice flavor.  Much more
flavorful (but not real strong) than the natural wrapper cigars I have
had lately, such as the Davidoffs.  Another cigar with a hint of
spiciness that I was given for my birthday was a Cubita.  I have
looked around the Twin Cities for a few months and finally found a
smaller ring sized one at Surdyks Liquors.  Still good, but I like the
complex flavors the larger ring size allows.

Last weekend we went to a restaurant called Ciatti's in Eden Prairie
MN and they let us smoke cigars at the bar.  (the bartender was a
cigar smoker also!) Great time!  I don't know it they allow cigar
smoking all the time, or if it was because it was so damn cold that
nobody was out that night! I will try it again soon and report back.
Any other readers know of places in the Twin Cities & suburbs which
support our relaxing pastime? Please tell!

[ Gee! I thought you knew _every_ pipe smoker around there! :-) -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????


   I found this while I was reading, and I thought it would be appropriate for 
the digest.  It's a quote from _The_Devil's_Dictionary_ by Ambrose Bierce
(the version I have has no copyright date in it - so I figured that reprinting 
it would be ok)

MEERSCHAUM, noun: (Literally, seafoam, and by many erroneously
supposed to be made of it.)  A fine white clay, which for
convenience in colouring it brown is made into tobacco pipes and
smoked by the workmen engaged in that industry.  The purpose of
colouring it has not been disclosed by the manufacturers.

     There was a youth (you've heard before,
       This woful tale, may be),
     Who bought a meerschaum pipe and swore
       That colour it would be!

     He shut himself from the world away,
       Nor any soul he saw.
     He smoked by night, he smoked by day,
       As hard as ne could draw.

     His dog died moaning in the wrath
       Of winds that blew aloof;
     The weeds were in the gravel path,
       The owl was on the roof.

     "He's gone afar, he'll come no more,"
       The neighbors sadly say.
     And so they batter in the door
       To take his goods away.

     Dead, pipe in mouth, the youngster lay,
       Nut-brown in face and limb.
     "That pipe's a lovely white," they say,
       "But it has coloured him!"

     The moral there's small need to sing--
       'Tis plain as day to you;
     Don't play your game on any thing
       That is a gamester too.

                   Martin Bulstrode
[a lot of the poems in this book are signed with false names, so I
don't know if this is an accurate attribution]

Joshua C. Sasmor
Joshua C. Sasmor - famous mathematician-to-be * Primary address
***********************************************  ???????????????????????????
"The highest form of pure thought is in       * Else try
 mathematics" -- Plato                        * ???????????????????????????????

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From: ?????????????
Subject: URL Change


Many thanks for listing Smokin' Joes on your page:


in the Commercial section.  Would greatly appreciate it if you could 
change this to :


which is Smokin' Joes true Home Page.  The site you have listed is just 
material taken from his page by another company.  Smokin' Joes has also 
been selected in the top 5% by Point Communications and would really 
appreciate the link reflecting this page. 

Congratulations on a terrific site.

Sally Elliot

[ Changed in the Guide, Sally! And thanks on behalf of myself and
our able and award-winning Webmaster, Steve Beaty. -S. ]

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From: ehw <???????????????????????>
Subject: Aldo Velani Pipes

Any idea how I can direct-order Aldo Velani Pipes?  I like the pipes, but 
find the retail price somewhat discouraging.

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995
  2. Subject: PIPES_DIGEST: A continued thanks...
  3. Subject: Pipes with screw-on bowls?
  4. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #205 -- December 4, 1995
  5. Subject: Pipe Digest
  6. Subject: Drum tobacco and pipe
  7. Subject: Ohio Pipe Collectors & Reamers
  8. Subject: cigar history
  9. Subject: Whiskey, Cigars, Matches
  10. Subject: Finest in Ports
  11. Subject: What to drink while smoking
  12. Subject: Smoking calabash outside
  13. Subject: Cigar only version?
  14. Subject: Condor supplies
  15. Subject: Virtual Latakia
  16. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #205 -- December 4, 1995
  17. Subject: Cubans and more
  18. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #205 -- December 4, 1995
  19. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #205 -- December 4, 1995
  20. Subject: Minneapolis shops and misc ramblings
  21. Subject: Pipes Digest :Swan Vestas
  22. Subject: clay chruchwardens
  23. Subject: Hello
  24. Subject: Winter 95-96
  25. Subject: high from deepest dark africa.
  26. Subject: Pipe show
  27. Subject: First post
  28. Subject: Fwd: subscription
  29. Subject: Pipe Digest
  30. Subject: pipes and professors
  31. Subject: Introduction and Questions
  32. Subject: Smoke Signal #20 [CHRISTMAS]
  33. Subject: Obtaining Condor from England
  34. Subject: Pulvers' Prior Briar
  35. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #205 -- December 4, 1995
  36. Subject: email addreess change
  37. Subject: pipe info archive
  38. Subject: THE CIGAR BOOK
  39. Subject: new mag/help wanted
  40. Subject: PD - Clean Air?
  41. Subject: URL Change
  42. Subject: Aldo Velani Pipes
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