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Subject: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996

		Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996
	     Copyright (C) 1996 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 1802

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[ADMIN] The last Digest was over 100K characters long, and some
members' mailers couldn't handle it.  If anyone hasn't received that
issue, and would like a copy, please let me know.  (And please ask
your postmaster to install a Real (tm) mail daemon. :-)

[PIPES] A question for y'all: I've occasionally seen multi-bowl pipes
here and there. Has any member ever tried one?  Do they offer any
advantages over single-bowl ones, or are they just for show?
Inquiring minds want to know!

And a Happy New Year to all!

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			Then, smoke in peace.

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From: CDR Valenti <?????????????????????????????????>
Subject:  Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995 -Reply


Want to thank you for the excellent job you do with
Pipes Digest, and would like some advice.

About 9 months ago I bought a Peterson's Captain
Pete pre-carbonized bowl.  I've had great luck with
Peterson's, but unfortunately this pipe just doesn't
smoke well.  It has a terrible smoke the first half of
the bowl (it produces a lot of moisture), and then
eventually settles down to an OK (read: Not great)
smoke.  I don't know if the stain used has any
bearing, but every time I finish this pipe there is
always a distinct tinge of red varnish on my hand. 
(My own theory is that the varnish they used to stain
the exterior was used excessively, and was
actually soaked into the interior of the bowl.)

At the advice of a local tobacconist I treated it with
a commercial pipe sweetener, which slightly
improved the taste, although not enough for me to
really want to smoke this pipe.

Do you have any suggestions on treating this pipe
?  Also, is a reputable manufacturer like Peterson
willing to refund/replace this pipe, since obviously
there is either a defect in the briar or in the

Phil Valenti

[ I think that K&P should at least be willing to let you trade it for
a pipe of equal value; if the stain is coming off in your hand, it's
clearly defective.  Please let us know if they don't. -S. ]

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From: "schier" <???????????????????>
Subject:       Re: Pipes w/Screw-On Bowls

These pipes could also be Falcons; which, though
inexpensive, are quite enjoyable.

Yitzchak, Moscow

[ Indeed; I had forgotten about Falcons. -S. ]

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From: "Joyce Perry"  <????????????????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes and Cigars in Phoenix

  I have responded to directly to the gentleman who inquired about pipe stores 
in Phoenix. However your "guide" is dire need of additions. Having smoked a 
pipe for 30 years, lived in Phoenix for the last 20 years, and smoked cigars 
for the last 10 years, perhaps I'm qualified to offer a supplement? 
  Churchills is cigars only.They carry a good selection of high end cigars and 
humidors. Their employees, though generally in their 20's seem relatively well 
educated regarding cigars.In addition they have a "backroom" with tv, stereo, 
leather chairs, persian rugs and other comforts for a rather pricey annual 
membership fee.
   Stag Tocacconists is a chain located in 5 different malls in the Phoenix 
area.As with most chains, they have a huge selection of gifts and trinkets, a 
predictable cigar selection and mainly low to medium grade pipes. I've been to 
each location and have found that employees vary in their knowledge of pipes 
and/or cigars.
  Ford & Haig (602 946-0608)is a pipe and cigar establishment located in the 
elite shopping area of downtown Scottsdale. They have a nice selection of high 
end cigars, a few trinkets and a few high end pipes. 
  Village Smoke Shop (602 314-9898)is a relatively new establishment, but has 
great promise. Their cigar stock is growing, as is their pipe collection. The 
owner, Craig Cooper, is a magician when it comes to renovating estate pipes, 
and offers a nice selection of varying grades of these pipes. I particularly 
enjoy the couch and large chairs available for FREE. The atmosphere of the 
place invites you to sit down, have a smoke, kibitiz, or read one of his many 
interesting and current magazines.
  Ye Olde Pipe and Tobacco Shop (602 955-7740) is a father-son operation 
that's been around for years. Rick Hopkins maintains a large and varied 
selection of cigars, pipes (new and estate) and RELEVANT smoking accessories. 
He and his employees are extremely knowledgable on all aspects of smoking and 
tobacco, and take great delight in teaching rookie smokers the art of pipes 
and/or cigars.
  Knight Gallery, located in the Paradise Valley Mall, is a small store with a 
large selection of gift and do-dads, and a limited selection of pipes, cigars 
and smoking accessories.
  The other "pipe shops" I've explored are what may be termed head shops. They 
deal in incense, adult videos, posters, small metal, wood and glass pipes. I 
don't claim that this listing is complete, and certainly welcome any 
information on legitimate pipe stores I may have overlooked.I offer these 
places as simply a supplement to your current directory of information.
  Before I sign off, I've been reading PD for several months now and have not 
noticed another female pipe smoker in your list of members, or in any of your 
letters or articles. Surely I can't be the only one? 
  Thanks for your efforts in providing such enjoyable and regular reading on 
the subject of pipes and tobacco! Best wishes for a happy holiday season!

  Joyce Perry

[ Many thanks for the additions, Joyce!  If you could also supply me
with the addresses, I'll add them to the Guide (which, BTW, is not
meant to be authoritative; it's just a collection of stuff I've gotten
from members over the years.)

And indeed, you aren't the only female pipe smoker on the list;
Gabrielle Sempf (and others) are members.  Perhaps some of the women
on the list should pipe up? -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????? (Robert C. Holmes)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995

Dear Steve: At the outset happy holidays to you and Jean. I have just
finished reading #206 and have two short comments. (1) regarding Andrew
Donovan-Shead's lengthy posting - WHY? and (2) it seems to me that the time
has come to seriously consider splitting off the cigar content. On this
latter point I recognize that many readers smoke both, but having to access
two seperate Digests would no doubt double these readers' enjoyment!
Regards, Bob Holmes.

[ Regarding (1), Andrew asked permission to submit "Scramble" before
he did so.  I thought that an original story, to be read aloud on
Christmas night, was a nice thought for the Christmas issue.  I
therefore agreed, with the proviso that he provide search targets for
skipping around the article (which he did.)  Every submission I've
received from Andrew has been, IMHO, worth reading.  "Scramble" was no

Regarding (2), my policy is, and remains, thus: if anyone else wants
to start and moderate a Cigar Digest, they will have my support.
However, I only have the time to moderate one mailgroup, and (#include
<executive-capacity.h>) the Pipes Digest will remain all-inclusive. -S. ]

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From: Warren Hughes <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #205 -- December 4, 1995

Good day all,

About Chillies
If I remember correctly a short time ago there was a  
question about smoking chillie in yer pipe, <no rearly I  
don't think I've gone mad>  I had thought about the idea  
and I do have a taste for chillie's, but is this wise, could  
some kind of toxic shock ensue?  I've heard that the  
chemical which so distinguishes chillie is similar to that  
used in sprays designed to incapacitate. 

About Alcohol
Personally I have enjoyed a measure or two of Rum with  
a pipe, very mellow indeed.  Ports are pleasant and go  
down very well for me; I s'pose the only rule of thumb I  
follow is that in general assuming it's been treated with  
care and consideration; like your pipe the older the  
better. <not much help there then>.  Soon I plan on  
experimenting with a glass or two of Wild Turkey, so  
who knows maybe I'll recommend that as well as Rum.

About Youth
I don't smoke much in public places; generally I'm at  
home or a friends house, but I find that there is a real  
perception that Old men smoke pipes; the very idea of  
someone of my age, say 24 smoking a pipe is difficult  
for many to take in, it's not so much that people wonder  
what substance I might be smoking, but rather they find  
it hard to comprehend why I would wish to take part in an  
old mans past time.  I find all this very odd indeed,  
because for me pipe smoking is associated with Jeremy  
Bretts Sherlock Holms or those interesting scientists  
from the fifties who could achieve anything with rays,  
rocket fuel or atomic pwer :)  Then there is always the  
bumbling and pleasent absent minded academic or the  
honest chap from Lancashire who has a passion for  
engineering?  Yes Stereotypes all, but they provide me  
with a helluva lot of sustinance.

Well I'll be off and wish you a merry christmas and all  

Have a good one!

Warren Hughes, Department of Philosophy, University of Hull, Hull, HU6 7RX, UK 
???????????????????????????                         ??????????????????????????
Of all the bright cruel lies they tell you the cruelest is the one called love

[ Chilies?  Having just survived half of a habanero pickled in Bacardi
151, I have no great urge to go _smokin'_ the things!  (BTW, the
pickling experiment was a flop; the rum played havoc with the taste.) -S. ]

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From: "Jacco van Muiswinkel" <?????????????????>
Subject: Splitting the digest

Hi Steve and all the others,

I've been away for some time, believe it or not mostly due to my 
disfunctioning HP-Deskjet. I always print the digest, there's nothing 
like paper when it comes to reading.

As I read in pd206 there are plans for splitting up the Cigar and 
Pipes part of the digest. I would be very diapointed if this where to 
I am a pipesmoker and every now and then I do smoke a cigar. The 
digest informs me both on the pipes and cigars. If it wasn't for the 
digest I would still be smoking crap in case of cigars.
I wouldn't subscribe to a cigars only list but I thoroughly enjoy the 
digest as it is. Please keep it that way. Besides I think the cigar 
enthousiasts are lucky with you as a moderator of this combined list 
(if I am right that you would continue the pipes part of the splitted 

Okay that's it for now and a Happy New Year to all!

P.S. What Steve has joined Thou shalt not part! ;-)
Jacco van Muiswinkel

[ I have no plans to split the Digest; see my response to Bob Holmes,
above. -S. ]

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From: "Kameran Kashani" <????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995

Regarding: what to drink while smoking a pipe...

My weekly Fall ritual has become watching a
Sunday afternoon football game with a few beers
(usually Anchor Steam) and either a cigar or
a pipe.

Happy Holidays,


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From: Chet Gottfried <?????????????????>
Subject: Condor and Me

Hi! Steve,

It's a pleasure receiving Pipe Digest; I can almost forgive Gallaher's
unfortunate stance for my deciding to explore the web for pipe & tobacco
information and coming across the Digest.

Anyway, a warm thanks for everyone who's given information about obtaining
Condor (and to you for putting my original e's to you in the Digest), and
what follows is my little history of how I became hooked on Condor as my
favorite tobacco:


The first time I had tried Gallaher's Condor was back in 1974. My wife and I
were going to have a relax on the Windermere ferry and were boarding by
Ambleside (in the Lake District, England, which is a whole other story) when
I realized that while having a pipe, I forgot to take any tobacco with me.

There was a small shop outside the ferry, we went into it, and I asked a
young shopkeeper whether he had any tobacco. He gave me a long and
enthusiastic description of which I didn't really understand. But I had
recognized the word "Condor" and repeated it. (I can't remember, though, if
I had first purchased the long cut or the ready rubbed.)

Opening the packet, I was impressed with its deep, rich aroma, quite unlike
any other tobacco I had tried, and at the time I used to experiment with
just about anything (having taken up pipe smoking several months before). To
this day, I'm still struck by its aroma each time I open a new packet.

It also smoked wonderfully: a long, cool smoke which reduced to a fine white
ash. Also, in the days when it was okay to smoke a pipe in restaurants, if I
was smoking Condor, inevitably someone would come up to compliment the aroma.

Mind you, I make no claim about being a tobacco expert; I'm simply
discussing personal preference.

I picked up a supply from duty free that year, and back in New York City, I
used to wander about tobacco shops looking for it. And I eventually found a
shop that sold it, but it went out of business a year later.

About the same time I met a Pam Am worker who often returned to Bristol; he
used to bring back some Condor each trip. (And that's when I learned how to
ration it--to a couple of smokes in the evening.)

In returning to the Lake District (many times), I had a number of Condor
discussions. One friend, an ex-fireman from Newcastle, told me that the
entire department smoked nothing else. He also told me that a work crew just
about went on strike when the local shop ran out of Condor. (Note for anyone
in the U.S.: It is *very* popular in the U.K.)

Later I found out that I could order it from Arnold's Tobacco, in New York
City. And one day I received a JR catalog, in which I saw it was nearly half
the price. I suppose that was my downfall: I became a full-time Condor smoker!

So the recent Gallaher decision about not wanting to put a WARNING label as
required for U.S. distribution at the retail level has hit very hard indeed.
(I'm still waiting for steak knives and barbecues to carry similar warnings.)

I have followed up on everyone's suggestions and have written, telephoned,
faxed, and e-mailed various tobacconists. Christmas is not the best time to
get attention though; however, a friend of a friend who is visiting said
he'd bring over a supply. I figure the worst that could happen is that I
wind up in Condor heaven, but I usually store surplus tobacco in the frig.
And, of course, at best I'll have a good supply and a splendid way to break
in some pipes by Mark Tinsky.


Chet's Place: http://www.asb.com/usr/chet/

[ Postscript: I saw Condor on Iwan Ries' Web page today, but don't
know if they still actually carry it.  Gonna get me some Real Soon
Now... -S. ]

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From: "Don S. Johnson" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Tobacco trivia

Happy Holidays Steve, Jean and fellow (and lady) PD'rs. Thought y'all might 
be amused by this bit of trivia. Prior to the mid-1800's, New York City was a 
principal grower of fine tobacco. Then the cost of land made farming totally 
unprofitable. Only after the War Between the States did tobacco growing gain 
hold in Virginia and the Carolinas. My great-great grandfather had a farm 
where Radio City Music Hall now stands but have no idea of his crop(s).
 Don S. Johnson
 Executive Editor
 The Online "How-To" Guide for Computer Graphics and Desktop Video

[ Interesting bit of history, Don! -S. ]

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From: Mark Lathem <???????????????>
Subject: Season's Greetings


I want to take this opportunity to wish each and every one of you a joyous
holiday season.  All of you have contributed to my continued enjoyment of
one of this world's most noble pastimes, and for that I am truly grateful.

For those of you who will be traveling, I wish you godspeed and safe passage.

I will ask of you each of you one small favor: a brief prayer to your diety
for my colleagues who will not be spending this season with their families,
but will instead be striving to keep peace in far-flung corners of the world.

My most sincere and warmest regards,

Mark Lathem      

[ And to you also, Mark! -S. ]

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From: "Gamini Weerasekera" <????????????????????????????????????>
Subject: Thanks!

     Thank you very much for the Cigar Club membership.  I am from 
     Lafayette, Louisiana, on a temporary assignment in the United 
     Arab Emirates.  
     I am enjoying the change of culture and atmosphere.  However, 
     Cajuns of Lafayette, (the Cajun capital of the World) enjoy a 
     similar disposition to the friendly, laid back nature of the 
     Cuban cigars are plentiful here.  However, they are as in other 
     places, quite pricy. I can't imagine too many Cubans enjoying the 
     fruits of their own country!!  Not at 4 to 5 dollars a piece!  
     I thank you for the extensive listing of vendors in you mail out.  
     I will contact some who have email addresses, to mail order some 
     good Mexican or Honduran cigars, to keep me company under the 
     beautiful Arabian sky.
     We do not have FTP or HTTP access.  Please could I have a copy of 
     the following Pipers Digests: 161  163  164  165  170  174  177  
     185  and 196
     Again, thank you for the great contribution to the peaceful 
     enjoyment of ones own hobby, cigars and pipes.

[ If I haven't sent the back issues, please let me know and I'll do so
tomorrow. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: Response to Clean Air

     This is in response to David Taylor's (????????????????????) note 
     from cccccccold Minnesota. 
     I live in southeastern Michigan and have been a cigar smoker for 
     several years now. Up until a few weeks ago, I used to sit in my 
     garage and TRY to enjoy my smokes. My wife and I both felt that 
     cigar smoke was NOT the first thing that a person should smell upon 
     entering a house. We also did not have an acceptable solution, so I 
     continued to use a space heater along with a 13 inch television (I 
     actually had cable to my garage too!). It's very difficult to enjoy 
     one's favorite cigar in the frigid winter months when there's heat 
     blasting towards you and cold creeping up your back.
     During the last week of November, my wife mentioned that I could 
     try to smoke in the house if I confined it to one room. The 
     stipulation was that if we could not control the odor, I would 
     (again!) be confined to the garage. I was determined to make this 
     work and here is how I (mostly) succeeded...
     I chose our bedroom because the scent of a good cigar (have I heard 
     that line before?!) does not bother my wife and we are the only two 
     that frequent that part of the house. Our bedroom is on the second 
     floor and, like most, has a door that I keep closed when I indulge. 
     I also bought an air purifier which is running on low constantly. 
     Make sure you purchase one that is quiet when it is on as they must 
     run for extended periods of time to be effective. I also keep our 
     closets closed and keep the door to the bathroom closed. This 
     minimizes the potential for the smell to permeate into any fabric 
     (clothes, towels, etc.). My last recommendation is to purchase one 
     of those scented candles. I did not buy one of the special, 
     cigar-smoke-eliminating candles. I just bought a cherry-scented 
     candle that came in a jar. I light the candle, shut the doors and 
     have been enjoying my favorite smokes for about a month now. 
     If you follow all of the above (and maybe open a window in your 
     smoking room occasionally) you will minimize the cigar odor. You 
     will at least confine it to one room which I feel is a good 
     compromise. This method has worked for us and the added benefit is 
     that my wife and I are able to be together while I smoke (instead 
     of me shivering in the garage while she is (doing whatever) in the 
     house). What little odor is left in the room does not bother her. 
     This was the nicest Christmas present that I could ever hope to 
     receive. Thanks dear! 
     I hope that some of you will get the opportunity to try this out 
     and are as successful as I was. Good Luck and Happy Smoking!
[ Congratulations on achieving a peaceable solution, Don! -S. ]

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes: Pipemaker Tim West

Congratulations on a fine end-of-the-year Digest, and thank you for the
Ohio Pipe Collector plugs.  The OPC now stands at 105 members from 15
states and 4 foreign countries.  We did well enough off our swap/sell show
in Sept. that the 26-page newsletter I just sent out did not quite bankrupt
us.  (My wife says I'm out of the newsletter business and in the magazine
business now).  I'll have to restrain myself a bit in the future, but, as
always, we continue to recruit new members at our low dues rate of $12 per
year.  Anyone who seriously thinks they might like to be a member can send
me their address for a comp copy of the newsletter.
Now, for the enjoyment of all your pipe-smoking subscribers, I'd like to
share with you the third in my series on Ohio pipe makers, reprinted from
the Dec., 1995, issue of the OPC newsletter.
The Artisan
I met with Tim West on a cold November afternoon during his lunch hour at
his suburban home in northwest Columbus.  He lives there with his wife,
Carla, an RN on the orthopedic ward at Riverside Hospital, and three
school-age children; a fourth child is grown and out of the house.  The
pre-Christmas season is a busy time for Tim, and he was engaged in shipping
pipes to the 35 retail outlets that carry them.  Tim and I settled onto a
living room couch, and I set up my tape recorder on a coffee table.  But I
had to be careful to keep my mind on the interview and off the dozens and
dozens of large and extremely tempting pipes (I wanted to hold and fondle
all of them) that were spread across the floor and piled up on tables and
Tim's father, who died in 1960 when Tim was 10, was a carpenter who built
and sold custom homes.  The family lived in each new house until the next
one was built and the last one sold.  So Tim's childhood was spent living a
nomadic existence in a succession of brand-new houses around Franklin
County.  But he learned from his father a good sense of tools and
woodworking by accompanying him to job sites and building things out of
scrap wood.
When he was 17 and in high school, Tim began smoking a pipe and got
interested in the extensive pipe collection of Charles Ormerod, the father
of a longtime friend.  The collection featured many sculpted and unusually
shaped pipes.  Like most pipe smokers in those days, novice and veteran,
Tim became a regular at Smoker's Haven, with its huge stock of GBDs and
Charatans, where, he says, he "would walk around in awe and drool all over
the cases."
But he couldn't afford them, and one day Sid Ritter of Smoker's Haven
offered him a block of wood and a couple of stems and asked if he was good
with his hands.  Having faith in his own competence, Tim took the briar
home, whereupon he caught some kind of bug.  He wasn't very sick, but he
was contagious and couldn't go to school.  So he descended into his
basement and worked on the pipe for a solid week, using only the very basic
workbench hand tools available to him.  The result was a skull's head pipe.
He got lots of compliments for the pipe and proceeded to produce two
more--a human hand holding a bowl and a clown's head with hat serving as a
windscreen.  He made a few more pipes in standard shapes, but then he
entered Ohio State as an art student, started working, got married and
drifted away from pipemaking.  (Tim still has the second and third pipes he
made, but the skull was stolen the first week he moved into Monkey's
And drifted into music as the bassist for the rock band Bootlegg, which was
"fairly popular" around the Ohio State area for about three years, but at
that time there were no good venues in Columbus that highlighted local
bands.  All that changed when the Agora opened in September, 1975--one
month after Bootlegg broke up.  Another local band, McGuffey Lane, whose
music was quite similar to Bootlegg's, went on to become successful.  So,
but for a small timing glitch, we might be talking about Tim West, rock
star, today instead of Tim West, pipe maker.
Jobless, bandless and single again in the fall of 1975, Tim went back to
making pipes as a founding member of an artist's collective located in
Monkey's Retreat, an eclectic book and whatever shop still located on North
High St. in Columbus.  He and the other craftsmen soon started going on the
road together to craft shows, and Tim began selling enough pipes to have a
successful little business.  In 1990, the last full year he did shows, Tim
travelled to 25 of them.  Today he is down to just two or three a year.
In 1980, Tim opened Tim West Pipes, a retail shop in the Ohio Center near
downtown Columbus.  He closed the shop in 1991 and moved the entire
business to his home workshop to concentrate on wholesaling.  The workshop
takes up most of the basement of his house, but it isn't very big--some
tools, racks of briar blocks, cabinets full of stems and boxes of
half-finished pipes.  To this day, Tim believes that he is much less
mechanized than most pipemakers he knows of.  He does have a top turner and
a frazer, but they're not hooked up, and the top turner is his television
Tim acknowledges that, as a pipemaker, he is entirely self- taught, having
learned through trial and error.  He believes that pipemakers who have had
the chance to study pipemaking or to work with established pipemakers are
lucky because "it just mystified me for years wondering how they did
it--while I was doing it." And though he does use some power equipment
today to drill, shape, sand and buff, everything is still set up, guided
and shaped by hand.
When I asked Tim about his philosophy of pipemaking, he laughed for some
time.  We talked further about the changes in his pipemaking over the
years, and he allowed as how, during his first year at Monkey's Retreat, a
good 50 percent of his pipes were sculptured (piano pipes, toilet pipes,
guitar pipes, etc.) because he had lots of time and could take a week to
carve a pipe for someone.  It might be his only sale for a week but would
still provide enough cash to keep him in business.  As his popularity grew,
he needed to make more pipes and thus increasingly produced smooth shapes,
either freehand or standard.
Tim has won his share of blue ribbons and various awards, but he doesn't
think much about them and can't remember what they are. He's far more
interested in making pipes and selling them to people who will smoke and
appreciate them, but I should note that he received the best standard shape
award at the 1983 PCI show.
Tim works about 40 hours a week making pipes and doing repairs for various
shops around the country.  Recently his father-in- law, Jim Seman, has
begun working with Tim, who says that Jim "is turning into a good
pipemaker."  Tim's free time is spent with family.  He also likes cooking
and does most of the cooking around the house.
When I asked Tim if he is as excited now to be making pipes as he was 20
years ago, he didn't hesitate a second answering "oh, yeah."  As for his
own pipe smoking, Tim hasn't smoked anything but his own pipes for years.
He smokes good-quality English blends, heavy on the Latakia, but has no
particular favorite.
The Pipes
Today, Tim averages about 1,500 pipes a year.  They tend to be medium large
to big, with either a lucite or vulcanite (hard rubber) stem.  He does no
sandblasting, but he does do needlepoint carving on some of the pipes.  He
continues to use the finest Grecian briar that he can obtain, although he
notes that some good-looking briar is starting to come out of Morocco that
he might like to try some day.  He fully air dries the wood for one year in
his garage before using it.  He employs no oil or other kinds of curing
A Tim West pipe will come in one of three alcohol-based aniline stains--a
natural, a walnut and a dark or black walnut--with a carnauba wax finish.
He will use the Dunhill or European Red stain, but not often. "I guess I'm
very influenced by GBDs and Charatans from my early days.  Their naturals
were their virgin quality--their flawless or nearly flawless grained pipes.
So I tend to go with the natural color on pipes that are flawless. Maybe I
shouldn't be saying this, because everybody will be thinking that my walnut
pipes and my dark walnut pipes are the ones with the flaws.  That's not
necessarily true, but I don't think it's a secret either that pipemakers
stain their pipes for a reason.  They tend to stain because they're
covering up or masking imperfections on the surface.  Briar wood is not
perfect. If it was, there wouldn't be the mystique about it there is.  If
every single briar pipe had the same grain, it would be like a piece of
furniture.  But since it's not and since it does have imperfections, that
leads to perfect pipes.  So what I consider to be a good-grained pipe tends
to be a natural, virgin quality."
During his five years at Monkey's Retreat, Tim signed his pipes T.M. West,
Ltd.  Since then, they have all been hand signed TIMWEST in block letters
(with the same tool).  Tim has never dated his pipes.  Why not?  "I don't
know.  Maybe I'll start next year.  I've been telling myself I'll start for
five years." Tim's pipes range in price from $50 to $150.  The most
expensive pipe he has ever sold was $350.
I find it a little difficult to pin down or describe a "typical" Tim West
pipe.  Tim says, "What I call a freehand pipe is what most people would
call a Ben Wade or Standard Danish in that it's got a rough top and a
V-shaped bowl, pointed at the bottom and wider at the top.  That would be
my standard classic freehand shape."  But even the more standard pipes have
a little difference or a little extra something that makes them not quite a
classic standard shape.  Perhaps it's best to let Tim have the last word on
this issue: "You know what?  I make Tim West pipes, and whatever they are,
they are."
However, as Tim notes, "It's not like I make a pipe and never make it
again, and every pipe I ever make is always different.  I work from Tim
West shape charts, and I have popular shapes I've created that retailers
are buying from me every time they order. And I've got standard freehand
shapes that I'll make over and over and over again.  So half of my business
may be from models I've made before and am making again, but then the other
half are just new designs, new creations, whatever the shaper/sander
creates."  And, Tim adds, "Freehands across the country are coming back;
they are most definitely coming back."
Over the last 15 years, much of Tim's pipemaking style has been influenced
by James Vieth, a Columbus resident who has commissioned Tim to make many
European billiard, Dublin and bulldog shapes from Mr. Vieth's own designs.
These have been lightweight pipes with "elegant length designed into each
pipe, and all have used dark Dunhill-style stains.  Many of Mr. Vieth's
designs have included extra-long sterling silver bands, which traditionally
give a pipe a black-tie, dressed-up look. Tim West is essentially out of
the retail business, so anyone interested in his pipes should first ask his
or her pipe shop if it carries Tim West pipes--and if not, why not?
However, Tim, does do custom orders and duplications.  If you send him a
pipe, he can match its shape, grain and stem.  He also has shape charts of
pipes he has made and is making now that he will mail out.
You can write Tim West at 1588 Grayling Court, Columbus, OH 43235 or fax or
phone him at 614-761-3465.
Reprinted from the December, 1995, issue of the newsletter of the Ohio Pipe

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

[ Thanks, Bill!  BTW, I comissioned Tim to do a special pipe for me
on the occasion of my Master's degree:  a very large, bent egg shape
with both churchwarden and P-stems.  Had I read a little further
before I started, I'd have likely fired that one up instead of the
Peterson I'm smoking now. -S. ]

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes: Flaws in the Wood

Steve, I'd like to share another item from the last OPC newsletter with you
and your readers.  If any of you pipe smokers out there feel moved to
respond to or comment on this subject in any way, I hope that you'll write
me or copy me if you write to the Digest.  I'd like to put a
response survey article together for the next newsletter (late March, 1996) and
probably for the Digest as well.
     For many years now, I have been fascinated (a fascination that got a
chance to grow during the years my wife was in the antique business) with
old wood.  Even furniture made from wood with pits and worm holes I find
endlessly fascinating and full of character.  So for many years as well,
I've wondered why pipemakers--and not just mass-production pipe
companies--will insist on filling small flaws in their briar pipes with
putty that will invariably turn some nasty, ugly color after many years of
     During my interview with Tim West, I asked him about this practice,
and I found his answer interesting.  As always, I invite all our readers to
contribute their thoughts, knowledge and opinions on this issue to help
enlighten us all about the pipes we love.
     "It comes from furniture making.  When I was an early pipemaker, it
was one of the marketing things I did.  I never filled, I never glued, I
never puttied, I never seal-waxed the holes on the surface of my pipes.
They were natural.  If there was some kind of imperfection on the surface
of the wood, that was there before I made it, I didn't do that, it was
God-given. This marketing practice worked for a long time until I started
selling to retailers, who have educated their pipe smokers to the point
that the customer coming in to buy a pipe only believes he can get a
good-quality smoking pipe if he can't find any flaws on it.  If he finds an
imperfection...'not in my collection.'  And it's real frustrating.  Because
I get about 25 percent what I call natural or nearly flawless pipes out of
a batch of pipes. The rest have to be walnut, dark walnut or carved.  I
would like to be able to leave the pipes the way they are, and the beauty
of the flaw, when the pipe has its patina and gets its oil finish and gets
its natural dings and dents from using, it just blends right in with the

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

[ Connoisseur takes the same approach to flaws; I like it better than
putty. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????? (Peter Catizone)
Subject: humidors

Dear Steve,

           i was in a cigar store the other day looking at humidors when i
over heard someone mention your name in reference to being a good humidor
maker. (reasonable prices and good quality) if this is true, could you
please send me a picture,info.,and pricing. if it is not, could you please
direct me to the right source. ether way could you please e-mail me to let
me know.

                mailing address:   Peter Catizone
                                   P.O. Box 495
                                   Cambridge, MA 02238

                            UPS:   Peter Catizone
                                   65 Dane St.
                                   Somerville, MA 02143

[ Sorry, Peter, I've never made a humidor in my life (unless you count
the creative scavenging of a dessicator for that purpose!)  But I hope
the humidor makers on the list will contact you. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: wholesale outlets

I am interested in a list of all mail order cigar dist. and clubs, is
there such a list available ? In my other digest subscriptions I was sent a
copy of a resouce guide on my first issue. Is something like that possiable.
also. As well as any body know private labeling compies. I am also looking
for company that has and sells cigar display cases and other assesories.


[ Probably Bill Curtis' Cigar FAQ would be as good a place as any to
start. It's available on the Web site, and many other places. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (Mark Newman)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995

Dear All,

After lurking for a bit, I have waded in, once a subject I can warm to has
arisen.  Several comments re: #206:
1) "Pipeies"is, I believe, too cute for words.  Might I recommend "Gar-Gods"
for the cigar enthusiasts among us ( I refuse to use the word "aficienado"
and "cigar" together, not because I have any quarrel with Mr. Shanken's
magazine, but because it has caused overuse of the term)

2) the "Cigar Aficienado" effect.  Haven't seen it yet.  I have a wonderful
tobacconist in Charleston, The Smoking Lamp, and they continue to ignore the
dictates of polite society and get good cigars without CA's seal of
approval.  Could I recommend the robusto size of "Mi Cubano" ?

3) Ports and tobacco.  I an NOT an anglophile.  The one thing the British
have done well, however, is the combination of Port and Stilton. I can
forgive any number of toe-sucking royals for that.  But they are right, it
is hideous with a good pipe or cigar.  One tawny port not mentioned, and a
value for the high-volume port enthusiast, is an Australian tawny, Yalumba
Clocktower, an excellent tawny value at about 7 bucks a bottle.  Perhaps
that puts me down there with the hoi-polloi, but I give not a fig.  It's a
great tawny.

Cheers and happy puffing!
Mark Newman, MD
Lowcountry Women's Specialists
Russian/American Technology Alliance
Charleston, SC; Atlanta, GA
Moscow and St. Petersburg, CIS

"...if you have never picked up a fly rod
before,you will soon find it factually and
theologically true that man by nature is
 a damn mess."
		-Norman Maclean

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From: ????????????????????????????

Advent and Christmas Greetings to you Steve,

I have thoroughly enjoyed receiving The Pipes Digest these last few months.
I truly appreciate your labor of love in letting us all enjoy the sharing
of our hobby, which is becoming more and more culturally incorrect.

I guess, at 45, I have become an OLD TIMER now. I read with nostalgia the
letter from David Taylor regarding the Minneapolis pipe shops. In the early
1970's when I attended Luther Seminary in St. Paul, a couple of friends and
I would embark each Sat. morning to "hit the pipe shops." The Tobak Shop on
Snelling in St. Paul and Edwards Pipe and Tobacco (first in Roseville and
later in St. Louis Park) were my favorites. WE would carry along a few
favorite pipes, sit, sip coffee, smoke and visit with other  pipe smoking
enthusiasts. Occasionally make a trade or buy a new piece of wood that we
couldn't really afford. Today The PD and alt.smokers.pipes are as close as
I get to that experience.

The Twin Cities was a haven for pipe smokers back then. We could even light
up in class! Most places I go now I feel like a leper must have felt if I
even make a move to light up.

Most pipe shops I have been to in the last 10 years have been the
retail/fast sale/mall variety. I do miss the good old days and the slower
paced pipe shops. I still believe a lot of nice pipes were sold because we
kept coming back and looking at that one fantastic pipe which whispered,
"Wouldn't I look good in your mouth and on your pipe rack at home?"

Regarding David Taylor's mention of Rich Lewis: I have a couple of fine
pipes he made in the mid-70's that are not only great smokes, but exhibit
fine craftsmanship. David mentioned his pipe repair business. I do hope
Rich is still making pipes. He is an artisan.

May you and all the PD readers be blessed this holiday season,

STEVE BYRNE [????????????????????????????]
St. John Lutheran Church
Port Arthur, Texas u/~

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From: ??????????????????? (Paul J. Ste. Marie)
Subject: Meerschaums

Homayoon Saedi <?????????????????????????> asked:

>4. How much should a meerschuam with a tracery pattern or head carving
>   (2.5"Hx2"W) cost and what should I look for? Any mail order sources?

I'm not quite sure what's meant here by a tracery pattern, perhaps a floral? 
 Florals do tend to leaves more than actual flowers.  At any rate, a 2.5"x2" 
floral or figural meerschaum with nice carving is probably going to run 
somewhere in the $100-$200 range.  I'd say SMS is probably the best buy for 
something like this, although CAO also has some very nice pipes.

        --Paul J. Ste. Marie, ??????????????????????, ???????????????????

Warning: Posting the text of II Kings 18:27 (KJV) may be a Federal offense
punishable by 2 years in prison and a $100,000 fine under provisions of
the telecom bill.  See http://www.vtw.org/ for details.

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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Smoke vs computer

I've been enjoying PD for quite a while, but it's been a LONG time since
I've written in.  A comment you made in the intro to a recent PD prompted
me to ask the following question.  Perhaps someone who knows a lot about
computer maintenance can answer this one:
   You mentioned that you were going to fill up the bowl of your pipe, settle
down, and work on the current issue.  My question is this: I've heard somewhere
that smoke particles are bad for your computer (specifically for the floppy
drives).  Is there any great danger to my equipment from lighting up while
working at my computer?  I'm particularly concerned because the "door" on my 3
1/2" drive does not close properly.

[ I very much doubt that the pipe smoke would make the drive door hard
to close, Frank.  It must be something else. Do a good visual on the
door and see!

The real concern is that the drive heads, or the disks themselves,
might get dirty.  But Radio Shack and the office supply places sell
head-cleaning kits which (if used regularly) should prevent such
problems. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: An addition to my family

Steve, I wanted to let you and your readers know the good news that my wife and
I are going to be parents on or around July 29,1996. Needless to say I am
extremely excited. Within a few minutes of the news I was already thinking
about which cigars I was going to hand out when he/she was born (I'm sorry but
the cigar giveaway is only for our friends as I am not a rich man :) ). I would
like to get the one's that say, "It's a boy/girl", but the only one's available
aren't the greatest, with the exception of the A. Fuente which appears to be
just mediocre. Also, does anyone have any suggestions on cigars I can hand out
to the non-smokers that, pardon the pun, won't leave a bad taste in
their mouth?

While cruising the Web everyone's welcome to check out my cigar page at:
ftp://banished.com/www/ehc/cigar.htm . I try to update it several times a week
so check back often.
                 Soon to be a father, Eric Campbell (??????????????????)

[ Congratulations in advance, Eric! Maybe you could make up your own
bands?  And, as for the nonsmokers, there are chocolate cigars that
you could offer, in addition to The Real Thing. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????????
Subject: Cigars

I would like to subscribe to the PIpe digest for pipe and cigar
lovers!  I am a current cigar smoker, for the cheap stuff, anyway. IN
my area I have an F & M and I go there a lot to pick up some
cigars.... I just wanted to ask are there any cheap yet good cigars to
be found at general stores like that?  >From F & M I smoked Garcia
Vega English Coronas and they weren't too bad... Even though I like
Antonio Y CLeopatra Grenadiers and they were VERY good...  COuld you
suggest some good cigars that are in any general store?  I'm 19.


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From: "Steve Shoopak (x1380)" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Hello!  And a question on a blend...

Steve!  It is I, Steve, a.k.a. -rick from issue #1 back in the old

How are ya doin'?  It's a long way from Rutgers, n'est-ce pas? =)

Anyhow, have you ever heard of Tivoli?  I picked up a blend in -- gasp
-- the mall, and it has a sweet scent to it, and an
almost-sweet-but-not-quite-sweet taste.  The name on the bag was Tivoli. 

It seemed safe enough for a mall. =)

Have you ever heard of it?


[ Hey, Steve!  It's about an hour from Rutgers where I live, so it's
not too far. :-) Sorry, I've never heard of Tivoli; probably it's a
house blend. -S. ]

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From: David Roberts <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Digest sstuff

Hello Steve & all!  Sorry I haven't sent anything in such a long time
- my computer died, and it took a while to be able to get a new one.
With the death of my computer I also lost my copy of the resource
guide - could you plpease send me a new one????  In the last issue,
Scott Steiner asked about cinnamon in pipe tobacco.  Here, in Europe,
Stanwell makes a pipe tobacco called "The Rose & Crown" which is
flavored with honey, cinamon and vanilla.  It is actually very good,
and is the only aromatic tobacco I buy at all regularly.  I don't know
if it's available in the States, but it can be ordered from Dan Pipe
here in Germany (I don't know if they're in the guide - if not, let me
know and I'll look up the info).  Also in the last issue, Jeff Cowan
asked about Peterson's in Germany.  They are certainly available, but
one has to be careful of the pronunciation: I was in the pipe shop in
KaDeWe here in Berlin, and asked about Peterson pipess, to which the
nice, but very ignorant about pipes, sales woman responded "I have
never heard of them, we have no such pipe here." I replied "Yes, you
do, there are three of them in the window."  "Ahh, Pay-ter-zons."
This was the same lady who, when I said I was looking for an English
blend, offered me something that was flavored with caramel, honey, and
vanilla.  When I said that I wanted an ENGLISH blend, she offered me
something else that smelled like it was flavored with corn
syrup. Blech.  Needless to say, I don't shop there very much.
Recently I met the owner of a pipe company called Reiner's.  They make
some of the most beautiful pipes I have seen in a long time - all hand
made with a very distinct grain.  I bought one, and my wife bought me
one for Christmas.  They're not available in the States yet, as far as
I know, but if anyone gets the chance to buy one, I highly reccomend
them.  They are light, beautiful, and smoke like a dream.  While
talking to the owner, he told me two things I didn't know about pipe
smoking.  One was that you should not smioke the pipe to the bottom.
He said that all of the people that argue that one must do this were
basing their information on Dunhill's book from 1911.  He explained
that the tobacco in the bottom of the pipe filters out a lot from the
tobacco above, and when the tobacco is saturated, one should stop
smoking it.  He also said that it was not important for the cake to
smoke all of the tobacco.  I'm not sure I buy that, but I thought it
was interesting.  The other thing he said was that he fills his pipe
with the stem pointing straight up, in order to prevent crums from the
tobacco blocking the shank of the pipe.  That makes sense, and,
although I never had a problem with crums, I've started filling my
pipes that way.  Well, I hope everyone had a good Christmas and
had/will have a happy start into a good year.  Peace, Dave Roberts
Berlin, Germany

[ I have Dan Pipe in Hamburg in the Guide currently, Dave. Thanks! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????

>From : Al Baier
In perusing past issues of PD several questions surface which I thought it
might be beneficial to answer for subscribers:

Q. Where to obtain pipe bowl scrapers?

A. From most tobacco stores.


A. "Meerschaum" is a German word meaning "sea foam" in the erroneous belief
that it was the compressed white caps of waves. Actually meerschaum is a
mineral mined primarily in Eskishehir, Turkey at depths ranging from 200-400
feet. Chemically, it is Hydrous silicate of magnesium

Q. What can one do about loose stems?

A. A stem tightener kit is available which will restore snug fit in seconds.
(see "PIMO" in     PD resource guide). By the same token a broken or worn out
stem can be replaced       in seconds with another kit from the same source.

Q. What are health ramifications for pipe smokers?

A. "Pipe Smokers who inhale live just as long as nonsmokers. Pipe smokers who
don't      inhale live longer than nonsmokers (death rate 20% less than
nonsmokers)". ...      Death rates for pipe smokers are little if at all
higher than for non smokers, even with      men(women) smoking 10 pipe fulls
per day and with men(women) smoking who had      smoked pipes for more than
30 years."
       (Surgeon General's report. Public health service publication #1103,
pp. 92 & 112)
       (From Ohio Pipe Collectors newsletter)

                               HAPPY PUFFING AND A LONG LIFE.

                                                  AL BAIER

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From: "KUBASKA MARIAN" <??????????????>
Subject: I'd like to join Pipes Digest Mailgroup

Dear Steve,

first let me introduce myself, shortly. My name is  Marian Kubaska, I am 27 
years old, and I am pipe smoker for 6 years. I live in nice town of Banska 
Bystrica in Slovakia ( Eastern part of former Czecho-Slovakia).
6 years after breaking down communism in my country pipe-smoker has large 
variety of tobaccos, pipes and other stuff to choose from.
But there are still things that I miss - information about forementioned 
things, forum to express oppinions, literature dedicated to pipe smokers.
Fortunately, I found some extracts from Your Pipes Digest Mailgroup that 
helps me a lot. (Burley,Latakia,Cavendish,...such terms appearing on the 
products are not described enough in my Webster dictionary).
For these reasons, I would be glad to get membership in your Mailgroup.
I would like to inform the forum about pipe related things in this part of 
the world as well.

	   I am looking forward to Your answer.

					   Marian Kubaska                   

[ You got it, Marian! -S. ]

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From: "Tall Paul" <?????????????????????????>
Subject:       Re: Cigars and What to Drink

Perusing latest issue, I thought I might contribute to the discussion 
of cigars and what to drink.  I enjoy a nice single malt scotch, but 
I have also discovered that vodka makes a nice combination 
(especially vodka gimlets).  Also, I really enjoyed Even Flood's 
comments ... I find that wine falls flat against a cigar.

I also concur on the younger generation picking up cigar smoking.  If 
the younger generation did not do this (and who cares what their 
reasons are) then the industry itself would be damaged (though I do 
not think in peril).

I agree with Frederick Larson's comments on the association of cigars 
and wealth ... there have been many a day when I have had to scrounge 
up the money for a cigar or (gasp) go without.  I did note, however, 
that CA's current article on buying a yacht to be quite useful (yeah, 

Great observations on cigars, David Taylor!  Knockandoo is a 
marvelous single malt for the $ value, and it is my favorite scotch 
to drink with a cigar.  Give the AF Churchill and #1 a whirl ... they 
are great.

Paul Saunders
University of Florida
Dept. of Ophthalmology 

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From: ??????????? (Mark Tinsky)
Subject: Re: Web page

Dear Everyone who I write to : One of my web correspondents liked my pipes
enough to put me on a page.Check out the URL it even has a picture. MT
>This is the e-link I put into the page about you (from
>http://www.asb.com/usr/chet/m-tinsky.htm) if I got that right. :) I
>usually go to
>"chet" first and then jump around. (I tend to forget one can go to
>particular pages
>in a set).
>So this is a test to see whether the link works.

The Link does work !

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From: James Harmon <??????????????????????>
Subject: Comment on Pipe Initialization

Just wanted to leave you a quick note and tell you I thought your note
to begginers was excellent. I have just recently started smaking a Pipe.
My girl friend prefers it over cigars. I have found the pipe very relaxing
and look forward to many years of enjoyment ahead. I have purchased a GBD 
and a Savinelli, and feel that I had made good choices in the both of them. 
I am looking forward to further information and discussion later

Thank You


[ Glad it was of help, Jim! -S. ]

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From: "Drizzt Do'Urden" <drizzt.do'??????????????????>
Subject: My first Post to your group

As my first post (forgive my spelling)I want to thank Steve for 
the digest's there great.  My name is Charles Johnston, and I have been 
smokeing a pipe for 3 years (I am 22).
	I first started my best friend had bought a Corncob pipe and a 
pouch of captian black.  My Father had smoked for years but had quit 
(because of Health reasons)but tought some basics of pipe smokeing. I 
then bought a Bent Irish Secounds from the Tinderbox.  It wasnt until 6 
months ago when i started trying their mixed blends and got hooked. I 
bought another bent pipe (an Aldo Velani<sp>) Which after buying a few 
more pipes still go back to it.
	Also I wanted to recomed the people at the Tinderbox (in westland 
mall, in Columbus Ohio)There is a lady (who's name i cant rember)who was 
extreamly helpful abut helping me pick out a blend thats right for me and 
my wife (a non-smoker, who doesnt like nost blends), Who showed me how to 
tell what a blend is made up by and the charactericts of what ever 
mixture of the lovely weed we all love.
	My question (as posted to the Usenet Group) is this: I was told 
to coat my first bowl with honey (I know there is different ways to do 
this).  Do I coat the next Few bowls also? I am trying out different 
methods in breaking in a pipe. ( bought 2 low end pipes to experement on)
Any help would be greatful.

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From: Antti Kalliokoski <?????????????>
Subject: C & D tobaccos and a question of snobbery

Happy and Peaceful New Year to everybody!

I will send my late congratulations to you, Steve and your spouse. May you
live long and happy in your marriage!

I have not posted for a while, but as always I have read the lists with

Thanks to the list I contacted Craig Tarler at Cornell & Diehl and got one
pound of Oriental Silk, #414, which is an English blend of Perique, brigth
flake, Turkish flake and bright Virginia ribbon. I must say that I love it.
I also have tried #040 (Scot's Heather) and #411 (Constellation) and for me
*Oriental Silk* is more suitable. It is not too heavy,  but a well balanced
and nicely burning mixture. Thank you Craig for that! (BTW, I wonder what is
the percentage of Perique in #414?) 

At first I thought that #414 was quite dry, but as Mr Tarler told me, this
is of no harm. He also warned me not to humidify it. I believed him and now
find his pieces of advice correct.

The other pound I bought was an aromatic (plenty of vanilla custard) mixture
#210 (Berry Good!). On the condition that you reserve a pipe or two solely
for it, you can enjoy its aroma every now and then. It really is a
distinctive one. The other day when I was walking home from work at
university and passing by a mother with her about eight years old daughter I
heard the girl whisper: "Mum, isn't that a wonderful aroma". This is quite
astonishing here in Finland (Scandinavia), where the attitude towards
smoking is very negative. Our tobacco legislation is one of the strictest in
the world, I think.

The customs we must pay here in EU for tobacco from USA make the prizes
double, but who cares when the quality is as high as it is.

As times go by I find myself like more and more English type mixtures. My
wife loves the aroma of *Berry Good!* and tolerates the *Oriental Silk*.
Some of the other English mixtures she dislikes a lot.

Perhaps those of you following  the "alt.smokers.pipes"- news group have
noticed that I happened to use the term *snob* thoughtless. I was near to
become flamed about that. In my article I did not mean that everybody in the
group is a snob when I wrote: "I do not know what the snobs in this group
think..." The discussion turned to the direction of problems of the non
English speaking writers in the net and the misunderstandings arising from
that fact. Indeed, my mother tongue is Finnish and as you can see (read), I
only learned English at school.

So, I want to call forth some exchange of opinions about snobbery among us
pipe smokers. What do the fellow members in the PD think about the following

 -at which point is a hobby turning out to be a snobbery? (BTW, what do we
mean by a snob?)
 -for example, is it snobbish to argue in favour of or against certain
methods to clean your pipe, or to proclaim that only the briar from a
certain part of Corsica or from some other place in the world is
accepted, etc.? 
-what is the use of discussing snobbery in the PD?

Antti Kalliokoski (?????????????)
The Department of Teacher Education, Hameenlinna
University of Tampere

[ Moderator's opinion, take it for what you will: It's not snobbery to
express your own personal preferences. But it is snobbery to say that
the other fellow doesn't know what he's talking about when he
expresses them. On the other hand, contradicting a statement that's
objectively untrue is not snobbery. (For example, if I say that anyone
who likes Dr. Grabows is ignorant, then I'm being snobbish. But if I
say that you'll loosen your pipe stems by taking your pipes apart
while they're hot, then it's not snobbery.)

And, BTW, my wife concurs on the Berry Good! And I have nothing
against Dr. Grabows. :-) -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????
Subject: E. A. Carey pipes...

I remember getting a pipe from EA Carey a long, long time ago...  does this
company still exist?  EA had an interesting concept... there were little
"breather" slots along the stem, near the center.  It cooled the drawn air.  
He also had little paper sleeves (called "Papyrate" sleeves by EA) to absorb 
all those vile little liquids and such that accumulate.

I miss my Carey pipe... if this company still exists, I'd order
another tomorrow. 

Thanks for any information you may have...
Jim Ettwein

[ Indeed it does... call 1-800-99-BRIAR. -S. ]

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From: "Dirk Bahlo" <????????????????????????????????>
Subject: First Note

Ave fratres in spiritu!

I recieved my first PD (#206) on 30 Dec 1995 and was overwhealmed by 
its volume and the specific and detailed information contained. So I decided 
to try and contribute something that might be of interest for the forum 
in return. This message has two parts: I. a short introduction of myself, 
II. a recipe for a paste that effectively heals burnt pipes.

I. I'm a 27-year-old German student of philosophy and English 
language and literature (Ruhr-Universit=E4t-Bochum). My special field 
of studies is aesthetics (theory of art, theory of interpretation, languages 
of art etc.). I have started smoking pipes half a year ago, mainly to get rid 
of a bad smoker's cough (having smoked and inhaled hand-rolled cigarettes 
for 10 years). That worked out wihin a few weeks and I got so fond of the 
taste and the mood, that I spent a considerable sum on pipes (Vauen, 
Stanwell, Savinelli) and tobacco (I like mild Danish mixtures: Virginia + 
Burley + Black Cavendish, my favourite is W.O. Larsen's selected blend no. 50)
 by now. 

II. The other day I got two beautiful old pipes (Savinelli and
Oldenkott) as a present from a friend, wich were in a somewhat sad
condition. The Savinelli's bottom was burnt but I could fix it with
the paste described below (the recipe is taken from an excellent
German pipe book by Otto Pollner (who is for us what Richard C. Hacker
is for Americans)): You need: 1 part coal powder, 1 part graphite
powder and 1 part fireclay powder (approx. a small teaspoon
each). These are stirred in water-glass (liquor natrii silicici, 1-2
teaspoons). You should obtain a paste that has the consistency of
modelling clay (not too liquid). The paste can easily be inserted and
formed with the forefinger (the hole should be protected by pluging in
a cleaner). After 24 hours the paste is dry (hard) and the pipe can be
smoked. If the layer has to be higher than 2 mm, apply 2 layers of
1,5-2 mm each (to avoid cracks).  It may be difficult to get the
ingredients, but ist worth the effort.  The Savinelli I fixed that way
tastes perfectly well. I got the coal, the graphite and the
water-glass from a pharmacy and the fireclay from an stove dealer. I
hope the recipe is of use for anybody (please let me know).

Smoke in Peace

----- Dirk the Kraut -----

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From: Chris Sherman <?????????????????????????>
Subject: New Tobacco Shop in DET. MI

	I hope I'm doing this right I've just subscribed to the newsletter and
this is my first post. I subsribe to Smoke and CA but your magazine definatly
leaves them in your smoke. I'm a cigar smoker usually but I do enjoy a pipe
every now and then(It's alot cheaper and it keeps my wife from yelling at me to
much) but I've not seen alot of input from any Detroit area smokers. I'm hoping
they are just shy about writing. I've found a new Tobacconist and I want to add
his store to your ever growing list. It's 3 Ravens tobacco shop in Royal Oak.
He's only been open 9 weeks but his solection is good and he's willing to take
some time to talk to you and give you advice. Very unusual in this day and age.
 I hope everybody got what they wanted from the big jolly pipe smoking guy.

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From: ??????????????? (Steve Beaty)
Subject: Smoke Magazine


        just thought i'd mention that the Pipes Web page is mentioned in the
premiere issue of "Smoke" magazine.  Bob Curtis compiled a list of online
cigar sites and was kind enough to mention ours.  it's there on page 50.

Steve Beaty                                                   ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                               ???????????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA            http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/

[ Next time I'm at Jorge's, I'll have to take a look.  Thanks! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request

I am looking to buy, build or steal a cigar display case in which to sell
cigars out of in my store. If any body has ideals, suggestions as well as
helping me set up a wholsale house please forward the information.


Jon Yuspa
1624 Thames Street
Baltimore MD 21231


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From: ???????????????????
Subject: Civilization in darkest Africa

Dear Steve,
Being a novice "pipeie" of barely two weeks (and having uprgraded from a 
corncob to a Savinelli briar this very day) I am really appreciative of 
the great wealth of information available on your web site.  I was 
browsing through PD 206 and stumbled on the request from Mark Vogt for 
pipe shops in the Johannesburg/Pretoria area. So here we go: 

Specialists in smoking
Bank City 
Pitchard Street
Tel 011 833 2510

They also have franchises at:

G-39 Garden Pavillion
Calton Centre 
Tel 011 331 1050

Shop 170 
The Mall
Rosebank Centre
Tel 011 788 7413 

and in

Tabak L'Art
Shop 109 Brooklyn Mall
Tel 012 46 7781

I can only speak for the Bank City branch: They have a wide selection of 
pipes (from corncobs to Dunhills) and all manner of accessories. They 
also have some very enjoyable house tobaccos. I'm busy enjoying their 
Black Cherry blend. The service was friendly and they supplied me with a 
good number of free tobacco samples with my purchase. 

Looking forward to #207. Happy smoking.

Tony Evans

[ Well, here it is, Tony! Thanks! -S. ]

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From: "Carl Hurley" <?????????????????????>
Subject: The Christmas pipe

Dear Steve and Fellow members,
	I hope that very one of you had a good holiday and that the briar was
lite right through to the new year. This year my girlfriend (who has just got
around to the idea of my pipe smoking) bought me a pipe. It is a savenlli, with
a rough finish and is in the style of a Dublin. It is great, not only do I love
this pipe but, It was great to be able to break in my new pipe uninterrupted
without such things as my studies to get in the way. I hope that everyone has a
great 1996 and that the digest still is strong in the new year.Oh! Before I
forget has anyone tried a tobacco by the name of "Wild Mango" it is made by
Exclusiv. I was just wondering because I saw in availible through the Up Down
and wondered if it was anything special.

Till Next Time
Carl Hurley

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From: Christopher D Hamsher <????????????????>
Subject: blah, blah, blah, blah, blah

	I'm a new subscriber, and the first two issues have been  
great--Thanks a lot.  I would like to address an issue that has been  
important to me lately, and is particularly relevant to those of us  
who enjoy fine tobacco.  I think all of us need to make the careful  
distinction between qualitative and quantitative commerce.  The  
downfall of capitalism in recent years has been the rapid move toward  
the bigger and better.  Centralization, mergers, high volume, and low  
profit margin bring with them the domination of the heavily  
advertised "image", which can only dislocate us.  As consumers of a  
quality product we must become aware of the advantages of the small,  
personal--less economical type of commerce.  Sure, there are dozens  
of mail-order companies that could give me great deals on pipes and  
pipe tobacco.  But I find that the prices can be matched very closely  
at my local smoke shop.  What the companies cannot match is the  
feeling I get when I walk into Duluth Tobacco and Gift and Joshua  
Zimmerman recognizes me in his hoarse old smokers voice, stepping out  
from behind the counter to help me with whatever I need.  They offer  
no smells, conversation, or the time it takes for real  
recommendations.  I have yet to see a catalog advertise free samples  
of all of their tabaccos.  Josh, on the other hand, regularly  
encourages me to stop buy and try out any blend I want to.  Josh  
doesn't do any advertising, so I don't have any images shoved down my  
throat.  As a young pipe smoker (18) I find that I must pay respect  
to the shop that introduced my to the possibility of fine tobacco,  
something that I could call a "hobby" and not just a "habit".  I  
think we all should do the same.  Put in the energy to get to know  
your local tobacoonist--I think you'll find that smoking is much more  
enjoyable when you do.  

	Chris Hamsher

[ Indeed, Chris. Thanks! -S. ]

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From: "MILEWICZ MICHAL (IZ II)" <????????????????????????????>
Subject:       Re: Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995

Hallo Steve and all you brothers  with wood in your mouth !

I'm sitting in the lab with a fine Worobiec #80 pipe wondering if 
there are any other PD readers from Poland... Dear Pals, please let 
me know if jezyk polski jest dla was zrozumialy ! 

In #206 I read somewhere that havin' 1 pipe means being a pipe smoker. 
Well, it's definetly not enough. At least 4 pipes make you a real 
Mr.Yello-teeth-wood-smoker. It allows the pipes to rest for at least 
1 or two days which effects in better cake structure and pipe 
dryeness ( no strange sounds from the bowl while smoking ).
Some friends of mine say that smoking one pipe more frequently than 
once a week is a crime, but to me 2 days seem ok. 

Don't smoke too hot unless you want your favourite Peterson to look 
like a piece if a fine Swiss Cheese.   

Smoke in pace 

Michal Milewicz
Wroclaw, Poland

[ Can anyone tell me what it means to jezyk polski jest dla was
zrozumialy?  I've tried rot13, but that didn't work :-) Welcome! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (Ed Berggren)
Subject: [PIPES]

Hello Steve,
  I'd like to wish you and your new bride a Happy New Year, and the same
wish goes out to all readers of the Digest.
  My Christmas was pretty merry, mainly because I had some vacation time
left so I holed up at home through both holidays.  After all the shopping
was done, I even had some money left over so I was able to buy myself a new
pipe to break in during all that free time.  What I purchased was a Wiley
freehand.  I've read some good things about Wiley pipes here in the Digest,
and this one certainly lives up expectations.  It's a beautiful
straight-grained pipe that smokes wonderfully.  I was pleased to find out
that it fell within my price range.

  In the last Digest, Michael Wachs (????????????????????) asked about pipe
shops in Arizona.  As I mentioned in Digest #205, there's an on-line yellow
pages on the Web at http://www.niyp.com/ that Michael might want to check
out.  I found 40 listings in Arizona under PIPES & SMOKERS ARTICLES and 31
under CIGAR CIGARETTE & TOBACCO DLRS RETAIL.  There was some duplication,
of course, and more than a couple of the "pipe" shops were pretty obviously
head shops, but among the rest there's probably some worth checking out.

  Rick Berger (?????????????) asked about the metal inserts found in many
European pipes.  These are, in theory at least, a form of filter that traps
the oils and tars from the smoke and keeps it from entering one's mouth.
Unfortunately, they work only too well, trapping all that goo and making
any subsequent smoke that passes over it taste bitter.  They also keep one
from inserting a pipecleaner through the stem during a smoke to soak up
excess moisture.  Like Rick, I just take them out.  A variation on the
theme that I've seen recently is a piece of balsa wood used as a filter.  A
little better, I suppose, since the wood absorbs moisture better than
aluminum, but these too affect the taste of the smoke and prevent the use
of pipecleaners.


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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996
  2. Subject: Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995 -Reply
  3. Subject: Re: Pipes w/Screw-On Bowls
  4. Subject: Pipes and Cigars in Phoenix
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995
  6. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #205 -- December 4, 1995
  7. Subject: Splitting the digest
  8. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995
  9. Subject: Condor and Me
  10. Subject: Tobacco trivia
  11. Subject: Season's Greetings
  12. Subject: Thanks!
  13. Subject: Response to Clean Air
  14. Subject: Pipes: Pipemaker Tim West
  15. Subject: Pipes: Flaws in the Wood
  16. Subject: humidors
  17. Subject: wholesale outlets
  18. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995
  19. Subject: Meerschaums
  20. Subject: Smoke vs computer
  21. Subject: An addition to my family
  22. Subject: Cigars
  23. Subject: Hello! And a question on a blend...
  24. Subject: Pipe Digest sstuff
  26. Subject: I'd like to join Pipes Digest Mailgroup
  27. Subject: Re: Cigars and What to Drink
  28. Subject: Re: Web page
  29. Subject: Comment on Pipe Initialization
  30. Subject: My first Post to your group
  31. Subject: C & D tobaccos and a question of snobbery
  32. Subject: E. A. Carey pipes...
  33. Subject: First Note
  34. Subject: New Tobacco Shop in DET. MI
  35. Subject: Smoke Magazine
  36. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request
  37. Subject: Civilization in darkest Africa
  38. Subject: The Christmas pipe
  39. Subject: blah, blah, blah, blah, blah
  40. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #206 -- December 20, 1995
  41. Subject: [PIPES]
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