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Subject: Pipes Digest #208 -- January 14, 1996

		Pipes Digest #208 -- January 14, 1996
	     Copyright (C) 1996 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 1870

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From: Pat Barling <?????????????????????????>
Subject: (no subject)

I was wondering if you have info on the history og barling pipes or know 
where I can look

Pat Barling   (email : ??????????????????????)     
- Editor of "FIREBREAK" - ACT Bushfire Fighters Newsletter               
http://msowww.anu.edu.au/~barling/firebreak.html (its Unofficial Home Page)

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From: "William H. Magill" <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207 -- Smoke vs computer

[ Posting from PD #207 re smoke and computers deleted. -S. ]

I have a very messy "desk" at home with my good old Mac Plus, Apple HD20,
and Rodime 140 at one end - both external Hard drives. (Yes, Steve, the
Plus is one of the first 4 128K-MAC's at Penn [1984] later upgraded  to a
plus). The other end has my Quadra 700 - with a 17 inch color monitor, a
7 month old Apple 2 gig drive and Apple 600 CDrom drive. In the middle is
my NCD 17C X terminal and an Imagewriter II. Spread across the "desk" is an
assortment of keyboards, mice, trackballs, and joysticks and lots of
"junk." I also have a couple of assorted modems,  but normally use a CO-Lan
connection to run X-remote.

The primary difference between my "desk" at home and in my office is the
large round object with a large cork "island" in the center, and ski-slope
on the side.... a pipe ash tray. The office is now "smoke on the street",
but didn't used to be.

At any rate... there are two primary side effects from smoking around the
computer. (And these really apply to smoking around anything.) First is the
fact that an electrostatic field attracts smoke particles. And what
generates a wonderful electrostatic field... a monitor! So every once in a
while (when it bothers me or I think about it) I wipe off the monitor
screens with a damp tissue.... uck does that tissue get black fast.
"Obviously," this same attraction occurs to a usually lesser degree with
every surface in the office, books, printer, desktop, telephone, file
cabinet handles, etc. The degree to which this is a "problem" is primarily
esthetic. This "problem" is the reason that the "smoking jacket" was
invented by the Victorians. Namely, the concept that ones clothes would
reek of tobacco smoke. So you wore something that you can take off and
replace - a smoking jacket. [I was seriously reminded of this effect
Monday night. We had a major house fire across the street, seriously
smokey. My ski jacket STILL smells like wood smoke after being out in
it for about an hour. Campers also are quite familiar with this effect.

The second side effect is "ash." While not as ubiquitous as smoke... ie
it is heavier and doesn't go as far (unless you sneeze), the area around 
the ash tray tends to get "ashen." (Sorry about that.) And if you are like
me, my ash try sits between the keyboard and the monitor, the path between
pipe/cigar at the lips and the ash tray is across the keyboard. So it gets
yucky as ash flakes off and drops onto and into the keyboard.

So what are the "problem" issues. First the ash - because it's visible.
If you get ash into or onto something, it will muck it up to some degree.
In the case of keyboards, most all keyboards today are completely sealed,
(I also still have a couple of HDS Concepts laying on the floor, Steve,
that do NOT have sealed keyboards. And normal "dust" - everything from
concrete powder generated by walking across the "sealed" concrete floor to
Tipu Sultan's cat-dander causes(d) them serious problems.)

I keep a 1 inch wide artist's brush in my desk drawer handy to use as a
"dust brush" whenever I go "oops." But I usually wind up brushing out more
hair and lint than ash from between the keys. I've never taken any of my
"modern" keyboards apart for cleaning - never had to. But I've taken the
concept keyboards apart many times.

So the ash problem is no different than any "normal" dust maintenance
issue. Keep your floor vacuumed, and you won't have dust problems or flees.
(Tipu Sultan is a Himmaleyan - a long hair.)

The smoke issue is a bit different. Historically, disk drives had a
distance -measured in human hair width- between the spinning disk platter
and the drive head. As disk drives got more capacity and spun faster,
this distance shrank dramatically. Things got to the point where a smoke
(or dust) particle smaller than a human hair was LARGER than the head
gap... enter smoke particle viola - head crash. Today, that head gap is so
tiny that virtually all hard drives are hermetically sealed - ie they are
essentially a "vacuum" internally - so the "rubber DOESN'T meet the road" as
it were.

Floppie drives are inherently resistant to this "teenie-tiny particle"
problem. They normally survive both mustard from a ham sandwich as well
as scotch or coffee spills. While neither treatment is recommended,
floppies are amazingly rugged. I have more problems trying to write 400K
floppies at 1.4 meg than finding floppies "going bad."

Other than disk drives, the other "culprit" is simply the mother board.
It will get "dusty" - period. If you are constantly adding/changing cards,
then you will probably never notice things because you "blow out the dust"
regularly. But if you only ever change the clock battery, you'll be amazed
that the thing works at all given how cruddy it is. (And this applies to
computers in "computer rooms" with "conditioned air" as well.)

Tape drives (we all have lots of 1/2 inch tape drives at home don't we),
are really no different than your audio cassette drive. If you buy cheap
tapes, the oxide flakes off and not only results in drop-out on the tape,
but mucks up the tape heads also. [Hint: how wide is a VCR tape.]

Rumor has it that CD-rom drives also suffer from "dirt." While I have a
"Disc-washer" for my turntable (and needle brush, etc.) I have yet to have
a problem with my ancient audio CD. Neither it nor any of my CDs have ever
been "cleaned." The exception is the "jelly prints" that my son occasionally
gets on the CDs. They get cleaned off with a damp tissue also.

In reality, the real answer comes down to usage and overall hygiene. 
If you are neither a slob nor a clean-phreque, then you will likely never
have serious problems caused by dirt. Although, I find that normal body
oils and the dust they attract cause me to HAVE to clean the track ball
in my non-smoking office building - weekly. It simply starts skipping.

You will likely NEVER have a problem with your hard drives caused by
"smoking by-products" because they are sealed. Similarly, you probably will 
not experience a problem with floppies caused by smoke. You are more likely
to simply "wear out" a floppie or have it suffer from normal dust first.

One obvious caveat.... Backup, source distribution, program disks, etc
should be kept in a conditioned "vault." (We keep our cigars in a humidor,
and tobacco in a "'bacca jar" don't we?) [You do make regular backups,
don't you?] Minimally, these important, one-of-a-kind entities should be
kept in boxes with close fitting lids. And they should be stored in an
area where the temperature ranges between 65 and 68 degrees - ie is
constant. My office happens to be on the 3rd floor of a Victorian in the
city.... read in the summer it frequently gets over 100 degrees during the
day and in the winter below 60. My single malt collection as well as all my
photo negatives are also stored here, so "do as I say, not as I do."
(Our home system has a set-back thermostat, and both my wife and I work.)
And, yes, I leave all of the external Hard drives running 24 hours a day.
The internal HD on the Quadra gets shut off when it's off, as well as the

And remember - By design, an automotive automatic transmission can only
tolerate a loss of one ounce of fluid and still function. When was the last
time you added less than a pint of ATF? Fortunately, it is
"over-engineered." It's the only way that "quality performance" can be
maintained when you have zero control over maintenance. 

William H. Magill
Information Services and Computing (ISC)   University of Pennsylvania
Internet: ????????????????????             ??????????????
          ????????????????                 http://pobox.upenn.edu/~magill/

[ Thanks for the note, Bill!  I'd consider this source unimpeachable.
And, BTW, I do have a tape drive on my home Linux box, but it's not
1/2 inch (more like 2mm). -S. ] 

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From: ??????????????????? (Paul J. Ste. Marie)
Subject: Smoke and Computers

Unfortunately, smoke is definitely not a good thing for computers.  Drive 
heads are a problem, and the monitor will attract smoke particles.  I don't 
use the floppy drive enough for it to be a real problem, but I have a 
container of Windex at my desk and clean the screen off every day or two.  
Ash in the keyboard can be anbother problem.  Generally, however, cleaning 
things out with a small vacuum will prevent any real problems.

As far as pipes go, I just picked up a wonderful SMS this weekend at the 
Wharf. It's an overhand eagle claw with a floral bowl carved by Salim, with 
a bowl/shank about 4" long, 3" high, and 2" wide.  The detailling on the 
claw is extraordinary.  Ron has a number of really outstanding pipes from 
SMS this time, and I hope the quality keeps up like this.

        --Paul J. Ste. Marie, ??????????????????????, ???????????????????

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From: "Weinstein, John, Dr, NSS" <????????????????????????>
Subject: long time

hi steve-
it's been a billion yrs since we've chatted so i wanted to wish you a happy 
new year and say that i continue to enjoy ur labor of love.  would you be so 
kind as to query ur readers to see if any know where i can get my hands on 
some tins of atlas (matured cavendish aged in bond) tobacco.  this was sold 
at garfinkel's in wash, dc.  unfortunately garfinkel's has gone out of 
business.  i'd like to buy some tins directly ofr, at a minimum, find out if 
it's sold under some other name and by whom.  it would be most helpful if 
responses were sent directly to me:
thanks.  warmest regards-

[ Good to hear from you again, John, and happy New Year to you and the
CAPS folks, too!  If anyone has a source of Atlas, please drop the
Digest a line.  Perhaps some of the responders for the Condor queries
have a source. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????????
Subject:    Need advice for a beginning pipe smoker

Happy new year to all,

This is my first post and I'm happy to say that I throughly enjoy reading 
this digest. Anyway, I currently  own 1 straight stem briar; but with this 
pipe I have to re-light too often to burn the tobacco. I would like to 
purchase a new pipe, any recommendations for a beginner?  What about a 
meerschaum? Also I have heard about a pipe club for younger people, does any 
one know the name of this club?
Thanks for all your help,

Mark Faulkner

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From: "John P. Giunta" <????????????????????>
Subject:       Happy New Year, fatherhood, drinks...

Hello Steve and all Digest Readers,

This Digest is always a pleasure to read--and _digest_!  Many thanks 
to you, Steve, and to any support persons who assist you in this 

My first smoke of the new year was on January 3rd in my new Stanwell 
briar (is that redundant? I have not seen a catalog to know if they 
also make or sell pipes of other materials).  I bought the pipe 
for my 49th birthday, on December 11th, with some birthday money from 
my dear wife's parents.  It has a bent stem and bit and a fairly small 
bowl.  The orifice sits within a large margin of briar, and when 
viewed from the top, it reminds me of a guyser hole, or some other 
productive hole in a strange planetary landscape--Mars, maybe!  The 
bowl is just big enough to be consumed in about a half hour.  

I smoked a bowl of Three Nuns, "None Nicer", the can reads.  I had 
wanted to sit back with a pipe since Christmas Eve, but just didn't 
have the time.  I hadn't opened the can for a long time so it was 
noisily dry.  I moistened it up for a couple of days with a piece of 
apple in the can.  Great, relaxing smoke, it was.

Congratulations to Eric Campbell on the coming of his child in July.  
I wish you all the best of health and the soundest of advice all along 
the way.  I know the joys of becoming a father, too, although I had 
to wait a long time for the right partner.  I became the father of a 
lovely girl, Sarah Marie, when I was 47.  Sarah is now 21 months old 
and developing at a rapid rate.  My wife and I are busier than we 
have ever known, and sometimes we fall into bed at night, exhausted, 
but happy, with barely enough energy even to fall asleep.  But 
this parenthood thing is great.  I would not change anything major.  
The joys far outweigh any of the horror stories one might be hearing.

I am not at all surprised about the Surgeon General's report saying 
that pipe smokers live longer than non-smokers.  As a practitioner 
and teacher of yoga and meditation, I know the value of learning to 
relax, and pipe smokers really must get to know patience and the 
appreciation of the moment, if for no other reason than to keep the 
thing lit!  It is a hobby for patient, introspective, discerning and 
gentle people.

On the subject of drinks that go with various smokes, I have an 
approach that comes from the way I combine foods and use spices when I 
cook experimentally.  I smell the dish as I go along, then smell the 
spices or other ingredients.  Since the sense of smell is directly 
"connected" to the sense of taste, one can make inferences of taste 
by smelling.  

When I try a new tobacco, of course I smell it unburned to appreciate 
the "nose" of the blend, and for the first couple of puffs I will 
take a small amount of the smoke and let it climb up and out through 
my nose to appreciate it being burned and as it will be appreciated 
by non-smokers. 

Various tastes and smells associated with tobaccos could be described 
with words like: nut-like, burning underbrush, berries, dried fruit, 
coffee/chocolate, anise.  I haven't yet seen references to non-
alcoholic beverages on the list--not only for those smokers who 
prefer not to drink alohol, but also for the purpose of opening 
possibilities.  I would like to suggest some heretofore unmentioned or 
unusual beverages based upon the scent of the unburned and burned 
scents of the tobacco.

For strong, berry-like aromatics:  Some berry or other fruit juices, 
to include prune (!), but probably not citrus juices.  (Have you ever 
drank citrus juice just after brushing your teeth--not a great 
combination.) In Indian cuisine (subcontinental India) there is a 
recipe for Rose Water.  This might be very good with some very sweet 
tobacco blends.  For lovers of soft drinks, how about Mr. Pibb or Dr. 
Pepper to go with those fruity blends?  (Dr. Pepper has prune juice in 
its recipe!)

For aromatic blends with the words 'coffee' or 'chocolate' in their 
names: hot chocolate with or without coffee liquers -- or coffees 
with or without flavorings.

For English blends:  a beer that matches the strength of the blend.  
I personally favor the dark beers and stouts--the more chocolaty or 
"molassesey" the better-- but it also may be desireable for the 
smoker to have a lighter beer that enhances but does not distract 
from the taste of the tobacco.

Also for blends with a lot of Latikia or Perique:  some vegetable 
juices like carrot or celery or blends of several.  If you have a 
juicer or blender, this opens a wide field!

Procedure for choosing:  smell the tobacco, then smell the beverage.

It may be desired by the smoker that the strength of the taste of the 
beverage not be so strong as to confound the tastebuds for the 
enjoyment of the smoke.  The basic function of a beverage is to 
provide moisture.  In my humble and comparatively uncultured 
palate, whiskeys would be too strong for my tastebuds--even numbing-- 
for me when I might be trying to enjoy the subtleties of a tobacco 
blend.  It might be fine for others, however.

Further, a long pause between the puff and the sip, maybe with a sip 
of plain water in between, would help clear the palate.  This, of 
course, is for the really patient smoker!

It should be obvious that I love to experiment!  This, in my opinion, 
is a great way to open our creativity and those new doors of 
enjoyment.  I hope this inspires some creativity in choosing.  

Best wishes to all,


John Peter Giunta, B.M., M.A.                Teacher of Yoga and Music
VIENNA WOODS STUDIOS                                Performance Artist
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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: Pipes for novices

	I'm a cigar smoker who is interested in getting into pipes.  I'm very
interested in finding a pipe that is ideal for the greenest of novices that 
won't sink my bank account.  I'm sure Davidoff makes swell pipes, but I have
a mortgage to keep up.  Any and all help you can offer would be GREATLY 


[ You might want to look at a GBD or a pre-owned Sasieni; be sure to
get one with a moderate-sized bowl (neither small nor large.) -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????????????????? (Robert Pluta)
Subject: my meerschaum is cracking!

Hi Steve and smokers everywhere!

I've been smoking pipes as an adult, now, for about 7 months. I bought a
$15 briar and it's been fun but I've been looking at some new additions to
start my collection. I have some friends who are living in Turkey and they
sent me a meerschaum pipe for a gift. Excellent!

My in-laws came down for the holidays and my father-in-law smokes pipes. We
even got to have a *spousal sanctioned* pipe fest out on the patio! I
thought this would be a great time to take out the new meerschaum and stoke

Wow! What a difference from the briar I had been using! I decided to try
the samples that Bill Finck sent from SATX and the combination of the
Istanbul blend and the meerschaum was simply outrageous! Now *this* is

My meerschaum is carved as an eagle's claw holding the bowl from
underneath. As I sat and smoked, my attention was turned towards the
detailing of the pipe itself. Hmm, one part of the claw seems to have been
pasted/patched onto the bowl, is it even attached? The other parts of the
claw look OK. One other day, I looked at the shank and thought I saw a
hairline crack 1/2 way up. Hmm, was that there from day one? Hmm, the crack
gets bigger after the bowl heats up, yep, it's a crack to be sure. Then
last night I was having another great smoke and was finishing up and I
*heard* what sounded like a crack coming from the pipe. What a horrifying
sound to hear! This morning I looked at the shank again; it's definately a

Do you suppose that I just got an inferior pipe or are all the meerschaums
this fragile? Sure the bowl gets warm but not hot enough that I can't hold
it in my hand. I was gonna tell everyone to go and buy a meerschaum but now
my enthusiasm has obviously been tempered. I'd really be upset if I'd spent
lots of $ on one of these. Nevertheless, the meerschaum is still fabulous!

smoke on!

Rob Pluta               "The truth is the light, the light is the way,
712 N Regent             the less folks know, the more they have to say."
Brandon, FL 33511       --The Remains, c.1966
PGP fingerprint: 0B BA B5 D1 41 97 D4 50  12 A5 57 A8 D4 D4 6B 0C

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From: "Pelachik David N. A1C" <???????????????????????????????????>
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996

Greetings from the inland northwest.  I'm a "newby" 21 year old piper living 
in Spokane WA (not by choice mind you by Uncle Sam's loving grace and 
kindness)...    back to my point of this reply!  This is not a pitch for 
this restaurant but a reply from piper to piper.  I have found a great "chow 
house" (as us bluesuiters call it) in the Spokane Valley.  It is called 
Calgary Steak House.  It is a little ritzy steak place and fine foods (like 
turtle soup and perrywinkles [don't ask unless you really want to know 
TRUSTME!!!]).  What is has though which makes me write to you is a fantasic 
lounge with big fat brainsucking loveseat and very very stocked bar (with 
plenty of scotch and ports for your smoking counterparts) and they prefer 
(GET THIS)  PIPESMOKERS!!! and CIGARS!!  The manager says that this is a 
fine house of beef and culinary delights along with the finest liquors and 
spirits, and with those items he wants only the finest tobacco products to 
be smoked there.  NO CIGARETTES!!!  He does have a house pipeblend if you 
run out only (and you have to be a regular to get it -- I've had it!  It's 
called Olympia a fruity , nutty sort of blend and a few cigars (not many 
though)  Just thought I'd tell you about it!!   MAY YOUR BOWL BE LIT AND 

David (Diamond Dave) Pelachik

[ Calgary's sounds like a real find, Dave! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Tobaccos

Dear Steve,
Many thanks for the invaluable "Pipe Digest" January 4 revision. I did not
notice on your "mail order" list a great source of unusual English tobaccos
(twists, shags, etc.) that cannot be found anywhere else in the US:
Gawith-Hoggarth English Tobaccos
10 Radcliffe Street
Holyoke, MA 01040
(brochure available).

Best wishes,

Leonard Fox

[ It's in the guide now, Leonard!  Perhaps a source of the Atlas? -S. ]

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From: David Malecki <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Mystery Phrase


you were wondering what "jezyk polski jest dla was zrozumialy" means.

I'm sure you've had a few replies by now, but if not, it's polish and
it means "the Polish language is understandable by you".  Clearly the
answer is no.  Rot13 won't help ;-)

Thanks again for the great work you put into the digest.  Keep 'em 
  David Malecki                   
  Newbridge Networks Corporation 
  Kanata, Ontario, Canada

[ Thanks! Michael Sparks wrote in with a similar translation. The only
Polish I know is "grubas cheki" (sp) which my dad informs me means
"long underwear" or literally "fat underwear." Would probably not be
enough to get by in Warszawa. :-) -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: pipes & tobaccos subscription

Hey folks,
This is the copy from a brochure our company developed regarding our new
quarterly consumer magazine, Pipes and Tobaccos. The magazine will start up
in February. Other tobacco-related magazines published by our company,
SpecComm International include:
Tobacconist, the official magazine of the RTDA, for retailers;
Tobacco Reporter, for the international tobacco manufacturing industry;
TR: Central & Eastern Europe, going to the bustling tobacco industry in that
section of the world (printed in German, Russian and English);
TR: China, going to manufacturers in China, printed in Chinese;
Flue Cured Tobacco Farmer and Burley Farmer, both for the tobacco farming and
research communities.  

Phil Bowling
Senior editor
Pipes & Tobaccos

[ Most of the copy deleted in the interest of space; interested
parties please mail Phil for the full copy. -S.  ]

Receive four issues per year for only $12 (first issue Feb. 1996)

USA                           International (includes Canada & Mexico)
     1 year: $12               1 year: $24
     2 years: $20              2 years: $40
     3 years: $26              3 years: $53

Fax # for credit card orders: (919) 876-6531

Pipes & Tobaccos
3000 Highwoods Blvd.,
Suite 300, Box P
Raleigh, NC 27604
Ph. (919) 872-5040
FAX: (919) 876-6531

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From: ???????????????????????????????? (Bill Sempf)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996

>I don't smoke much in public places; generally I'm at
>home or a friends house, but I find that there is a real
>perception that Old men smoke pipes; the very idea of
>someone of my age, say 24 smoking a pipe is difficult
>for many to take in, it's not so much that people wonder
>what substance I might be smoking, but rather they find
>it hard to comprehend why I would wish to take part in an
>old mans past time.

        I have had the same problem.  I am 24, and my wife, Gabrielle is
20.  We cause quite a sensation in public, as we both smoke.  I am somewhat
of an individualist and I enjoy the looks I get when I smoke my oversize
Ser Jacopo and work on my C++ homework on my Apple Newton.  What a
combination.  Gabrielle gets a lot of attention also.  Her picture, taken
at the Ohio Pipe Smokers Convention sponsored by the local Pipe Collectors
club, has been through most of the pipe smoking publications on this side
of the country.  She has been recognised at several pipe stores locally by
people we've never met ... well, let's just say we make a lot of friends.
We have fun!

>William Sempf<                    \                ???????????????
   +  >Finger for PGP key<          \ ?????????????????????????????
  +++       >Consultant to the GCFN< \         ????????????????????

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From: ??????????????????? (ron)
Subject: Re: Cigar and pipe stores in Israel

I've enjoyed reading the digest for the past two months.
I have been smoking a pipe for over 10 years and have recently started to
smoke Cigars. Smoking cigars in Israel is dificult as I have not been able
to find any decent shops. I rely on the Dutey Free at the airport although
they only stock Cubans in the Humididor which are expensive.
Please foward any information on shops which stock good cigars in Israel

thank you
Ron Zamir 

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Sulivan's Tobacco

I frequently buy Sullivan's English blend tobacco while on business in
Argentina.  My favorite is Sullivan's Special Mixture OX, which comes in a 50
gram circular tin with red labeling.  It is quite special and has a
distinctive "old house on a rainy day" appeal.

Are you aware of this blend?  Have any idea where I can get some in the U.S.
or by mail?

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Ed's Pipe Shop

Steve, OPC member C.H. "Sarge" Stock, U.S. Army Retired, has asked me for help
getting the address of Ed's Pipe Shop in Santa Monica CA.  If anyone can
help, send Sarge a note at 100 Old Carriage Court, Myrtle Beach, SC 29575
or e-mail me and I'll get the info to Sarge.  Thanks.

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

[ I also got a letter from Sarge; Ed's isn't in the Guide, so I can't
help here. -S. ]

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From: Scott Steiner <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996

Hey Everybody!

Happy New Year to you all!  Well, I've noticed two (among many) 
discussions goind on within PD.  One is the ongoing debate about what to 
drink while smoking.  I've noticed everything from Port to Single Malt 
Scotch, applying to cigar smokers and pipe smokers alike.  I spent a 
couple months in Cambridge, England this summer and learned to mightily 
hate Port, and I'm not a Scotch drinker.  So, while I'm no expert, I'd 
like to recommend a nice glass of Crown Royal on the rocks.  I have one 
with my pipe every now and then, and I find that the two tastes are a 
happy marriage.  The second discussion I've noticed involves pressuring 
Steve to split the digest.  Well Steve, for what it's worth, I'm glad 
you've already decided not to.  God knows how much time you spend 
compiling the existing PD, I think most of us think it's a little 
unrealistic and impractical to ask you to be working on two separate 
digests.  Anyway, great job and thanks for all you do for us.  I really 
enjoy reading PD.  It may be January, but its 74 degrees, sunny, and 
clear outside my window here in Southern California right now, and I 
personally believe pipes smoke better in cold weather, so I helps to keep 
in touch with all the smokers out there freezing their tails off.  Take 
care everybody.


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From: ????????????????? (robert everett)
Subject: Pipes

Hi Steve and all,
Well, the holidays are behind us and I really hope that each and every one of
you had a wonderful time with those you love. I sure did!! I received two
interesting (to me, at least) Christmas gifts this year. From my lovely wife
of 41 years, a large straight grained freehand pipe by an Italian maker named
Lorenzo, with whom I had no previous familiarity. If this pipe is an example of
his normal handwork, I'm very much surprised that he isn't better known, as my
pipe is really something special. My other interesting gift was a briar
plateau and a blank stem from my best buddy, another pipe smoker of many years
standing. He and I have talked for years about someday getting some plateaux
and trying our hand at pipe making. Well - finally he decided to do something
other than talk about it and in his inimical fashion left the potential
massive goofup and it's attendant eternal ribbing on my shoulders rather than
his. Sneaky fellow, that Harold! Never one to pass up a challenge, I repaired 
to the shop and commenced to hack and hew. Imagine my surprise when that
lump of 
hard (read really HARD) wood began to somewhat resemble a pipe. I kept after
it until I'd removed all the wood that wasn't a pipe and I'll be darned if what
I ended up with wasn't a Danish style freehand with plateau top and stem end.
Among my collection are a number of well-loved Ben Wade and Preben Holm Danish
freehands, so I guess I just automatically followed what I liked most about
them in my attack on that poor chunk of briar. I'm really pleased and proud as
punch of this, my first pipe and immediately placed a large order with Pimo
for more briar plateaux and a bunch of stem blanks. I'm off to the races with
a new hobby that really complements my love of pipe smoking and collecting. I'd
like to whloheartedly recommend to all who may have ever had a thought about
trying to make a pipe to go ahead and get started. It's not as hard as you've
probebly assumed it to be. All that's required is patience and a few basic hand
tools. The results may well surprise you -  I know mine did.

Smoke in peace,

[ Congrats on the new Lorenzo and the new Everett! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Addition for the Guide


Here's a name to add to the Guide:

Bill's Pipe Repair
Restorations a Speciality
P.O. Box 44021
Oklahoma City, OK 73144-1021

Bill Braddock has been doing pipe repairs in the OKC area for a while. He
does quality work at a very reasonable price.

He has repaired two pipes for me. The first is a Playboy pipe. An
inexpensive, but good smoking pipe. The stem was loose and badly
discolored. Bill banded the cracked shank and fitted a lucite stem. This is
now my "dress" pipe. The second pipe is a Caminetto Business in the Poker
shape. I had broken the tenon. Bill wasn't sure that he could match the
original stem. It had a slight bend at the mouthpiece. Instead of trying to
match it, he installed a new tenon in the old stem.  It's impossible to
tell that the pipe has been repaired.

Disclaimer: Bill is a friend of mine, however, I do not have a financial
stake in this business.


John Haldeman

[ Thanks, John!  BTW, I'm of the opinion that pipe repairs by mail
might be a good option for those trying to take refuge from the rat
race, if they could find a willing teacher. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????
Subject: A belated introduction

Dear Steve

After a year-and-a-half of passive reading of your digest, I feel it's 
time that I wrote something myself. My name is Jeremy Martinson, and I 
work as a Postdoctoral Research Assistant at a medical research 
institute in Oxford. In addition, I teach Human Genetics and Evolution 
for the Oxford University Human Sciences and Anthropology degree 
courses. I'm 32 years old and have smoked a pipe for two years now: in 
that time I have amassed the great number of twelve pipes, including 
one high-grade which I have just bought this weekend. They are all 
briars - I want to buy myself a meerschaum, and I know just the type 
that I want (I just haven't seen it in a shop yet!). I haven't yet 
established a preference for any one type of tobacco: I have two 
tupperdors, one of English blends, one of aromatics. My current faves 
are Dunhills 965 and Nightcap for the English blends, and an in-house 
aromatic blend called Pirate's Mixture which I bought from a 
tobacconist at my parents' home town in Cornwall. The only other item 
on my CV is that I became a father last May for the first time (a 
daughter, Elizabeth).

I am a regular reader both of the digest and of the a.s.p. newsgroup. I 
dabble occasionally with cigars, but I find the prices here in the UK a 
little too high to allow me to experiment properly. Both resources have 
been tremendously helpful to me as I learn about pipes and tobacco, but 
I find this Digest a particular haven of sound advice, reasoned & 
civilised debate, and a refuge from both intrusive tirades on the ills 
of tobacco and adverts for snake-oil stop-smoking remedies. I think 
Steve does a sterling job.

I was particularly interested in one item in the latest PD (no 207 if 
memory serves) about the availability (or not) of Condor in the US. 
Interested, and bemused, as here in the UK Condor is regarded as a 
supermarket/drugstore tobacco, rather than as a premium tobacco that 
one would actively seek out. I've never tried it, so I'm speaking from 
ignorance here :-). 

I do have one piece of news that may be of interest to US readers 
though. Those of you who follow a.s.p. may remember that earlier this 
week I shamelessly plugged a demonstration of pipemaking held here in 
Oxford by Bill Taylor of Ashton pipes. I got quite a few replies to 
that from US readers keen to buy pipes in absentia. I know that a 
couple of people rang Avery's pipe store (the venue here) and were able 
to buy hand-made Ashton pipes at a very good price. I hope they're 
pleased with their purchases! When I went in to buy my pipe this 
weekend I mentioned to Bill that it was I who had advertised his 
demonstration on the internet. He was very interested, and told me that 
he will be in the US later this year and will be holding a similar 
demonstration at McCranie's Pipe Shop, Charlotte NC in April. You will 
be able to see a master craftsman finish off some of his finest pipes, 
and buy them at a bargain price. Remember, you heard it here first!! 
Oh, and those who remember reading my first paragraph will have 
realised that me first high-grade is, of course, an Ashton. The 
improvement in smoking quality over my usual pipes is incredible. 
Bill's invited me to visit him in his factory when I'm next in London 
and you can bet I'll be going there soon.

Another customer at Avery's while I was there was Clive Humm of the 
Pipe Club of London. We exchanged newsletters - I have a copy of the 
PCoL's latest Journal, and Clive has a copy of PD#207! Clive has a 
computer, but no modem as yet, although he now plans to get one so he 
can join us here. And I've joined the PCoL so it was a very successful 
cross-fertilisation! Clive also gave me a sample of his Bengal Slices. 
Now THERE's a tobacco that I'd like to see over here.

That's enough from me for now. I'll end with a question. I visit the US 
quite often, and have been to several excellent pipe stores there 
(Peretti's and Ehrlich's of Boston spring to mind). One that I also 
like is Grant's of Market Street, San Francisco CA, but I have not seen 
it in the Resource Guide or heard it mentioned in the Digest. Do you 
Bay Area readers know something about it that I don't? I've not bought 
a pipe from them, but I have several of their tobaccos and I think 
they're great.

Bye for now. I'll try to make it less than eighteen months before I 
write again!


Jeremy Martinson

[ You're correct, Jeremy; Grant's is not in the Guide, for some
reason.  (Probably no one's sent in the address.) Thanks for the words
on Condor, and welcome! -S. ]

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From: Mark Lathem <???????????????>
Subject: Idle Ramblings...

"...if you have never picked up a fly rod before,you will soon find it 
factually and theologically true that man by nature is a damn mess."
		                                -Norman Maclean

This quote, from "A River Runs Through It" (a very good movie and an
even better novella) at the end of Mark Newman's submission to PD #207 
started me thinking:

How many pipe smokers are also fly fishermen?

I count myself among this number only because I own a fly rod and I have
taken fish with it.  Those opposed to blood sports can soothe their hackles
(pardon the very small fly fishing pun), taking some solace in the knowledge
that I am much more adept at decorating neighboring trees with tiny,
expensive, feathered ornaments and creating remarkably complex knots in 
mid-air than I am at actually catching (and releasing, I might add) fish.  
Growing up in the South, I was reared in the tradition of the cane pole
and worm can rather than the more refined religion of the long rod and
fly.  Some day I shall find a non-smoking fly fisherman, and we will
tutor each other in our respective arts.

I have, by the way, found a very good use for my fishing vest.
I am disorganized by nature, and I frequently find myself fumbling for
matches, a pipe tool, or a pipe cleaner--and often for my pipe itself.
Donning my vest, however, I can outfit myself with a day's supply of
smoking accessories without fear of mislaying anything.

But boy, do people stare at you funny.  Maybe I should lose the hat and
hip waders?  ;^)


Mark Lathem      

[ I'd guess quite a few; fly fishing seems like a good place for a
pipe.  L.L. Bean puts out a wall hanging which is a repro of a 1930s
catalog cover: a gentleman in full fishing regalia (waders, rod and
reel, creel, etc.), who has obviously caught nothing. He is chomping
on a small pipe and scowling at a small boy.  The boy has a stick, a
piece of string, and a full complement of fish. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Greetings

Happy New Year, Steve, to you and your bride. May it be a good one. As
I approach my 71st birthday in February, I think back on when I first
began smoking a pipe (when I was 16), and I look at my collection,
each pipe having a history of its own. I smoked a pipe while a Marine
in the Pacific War, and I was a pipe smoker when I was in the Korean
War. In Seoul, the British Commonwealth Division had a NAAFI
(Navy-Army-Air Force Institute) which was the British version of a
PX. The had Dunhill pipes for sale at $7.50 each. I bought two, and
now wish I had bought more. I also bought Balkan Sobranie there for .50 
a can. I enjoy my pipes now as much as I first did, perhaps even
more, because when I first started smoking, the tobaccos were either
Revelation or Rum and Maple. I now enjoy the latakia-laden British
styles more. I particularly enjoy Barrister, an excellent blend sold
by Faders of Baltimore, which has a shop in Annapolis, not too far
away from Bowie, MD. I also enjoy good cigars, almost anything in a
Rothschild shape. Well, enough of this wool-gathering. To my fellow
digest members, all the best for the New Year and Happy Smoking. Ben
Frank ?????????????????

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From: ??????????????????????????
Subject: Intro & Response


Thanks for entering my subscription to Pipes Digest.  I received a "return to
sender" from my local postmaster and was somewhat surprised that you had
received my request.  By way of intro, I am (Dr.) Harold Williamson, a
professor at Northeast Louisiana University in Monroe, LA.

Noted a couple of comments regarding "Once a cigar maker. . ." by Patricia
Cooper in #206 and/or #207.  Just thought I'd let you know that I obtained a
copy of that book from The Scholar's Bookshelf; 110 Melrich Road; Cranbury, NJ
08512.  The book is on sale for $6.95 (maybe remaindered) until January 31,
1996.  Sorry, don't have a phone number for them.



[ Thank you for the note! -S. ]

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From: john turner <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996

Dear Steve,

Many thanks for No 207 which is as interesting as previous issues.

Would you please include the following notice in the next issue.


We are now able to exclude Value Added Tax from from our prices for
orders being sent outside the EEC. This means significantly lower
prices for most Non-European countries.

We have also added to our list of products and now include many popular English
brands, including CONDOR in three variations.

A revised price list is now available by E - Mail, please contact me directly.

John Turner
Quality Tobacco (UK) 

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From: ????????????????? (Wayne Baker)
Subject: Pipe Sweetner/It's a Boy/Girl Cigars

Hi Steve,

First of all a big "THANK YOU" to you for all the work you do for us Pipe
collectors!  This resource has kept my pipe collecting alive!

In your last issue Eric Campbell asked about "It's a Boy/Girl Cigars".  I
have been blessed with 4 children and I have had cigars handy to pass out
for each of them.   This is a tradition that is not practiced much at all
anymore.  I am sure that is why it is so hard to find the cigars.  I suggest
TinderBox.  They have them but please be aware they are NOT 100% tobacco!
It was not until my 2nd child that someone asked why I bought my cigars at a
tobacco shop instead of "swisher sweets" !  I spouted off that I only wanted
to pass out "quality, 100% tobacco" and they found the fine print on the box
that informed me otherwise.  But everyone who smoked one thought they were a
great cigar and several people wanted to know where I got them so I kept
buying them for child 3 and 4!   

As for non-smoker gifts, I suggest simple lolly pops or some sort of candy.
Any of the chocolate cigars I have ever had have been pretty stale.  

I have a question of my own.   What is the best solution for  "pipe
sweetner"?   I have tried some from Tinderbox, a small quited expensive
little bottle.   I use Briar Pipe Wipe on the outside and I think it works
great.  I would like to find a good reliable solution for refreshing the
inside of the bowl.   I would appreciate any suggestions!

Wayne C. Baker
Coordinator of Computer Technical Services
Grinnell College Computer Services

[ Perhaps with the renewed interest in cigars, this tradition shall
also be renewed! -S. ]

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From: Mike Davin <????????????????????>
Subject: Hello!~Smoke vs.Computer~Cigars~!

Hello to Steve and all my pipe & cigar loving friends!

My name is Mike Davin, ????????????????????, and I am glad to be a new 
subscriber to the Pipes Digest. I have just recently (six months) started 
smoking fine imported cigars and will certainly benefit from everyones 
input. I will make a stab at some beneficial input and "tell off" on 
myself some here for the first time.

I caught an inquiry from Frank (Smoke vs. Computer)from the last digest. I 
am currently studying PC repair and contrary to what people believe, smoke 
does affect the PC in most all areas, except, the factory sealed head disk 
assembly component of the hard disk drive. Many other system components 
will sustain damage from smoke. Normally, most people will purchase 
another PC before any real damage surfaces so,...->
go ahead and light up, enjoy I say! I'll fix it later!

Now it's "tell off" time. I absolutely can't resist an Artuero Fuente 
cigar to save my life! I have sampled every cigar I can get my hands on 
and they all just don't stack ^up. The Cuban Corona natural must have been 
made just for me! I do really enjoy the 8-5-8 and the Hemmingways also 
(umm, a Short Story)!

I noticed that the Savinelli cigar was extra good too. I understand they 
are in some affiliation with A. Fuente. Can anyone straighten me out on 

I would like to know much more about the art and traditions of cigar 
making and smoking. I'll continue to watch for interesting information. 
Let me know of some more interesting sites.


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From: ????????????????
Subject: youth pipe and cigar smoking

     The attached is the file I would like to submit-not this one!  The
content of the article is a response to Paul Sanders comment concerning the
younger generation's role in the pipe and cigar community.  If you find it
inappropiate please do not feel inclined to publish it. You may find some
portion of the material potentially liable, so read it carefully, as I do not
wish to damage the reputation of the digest by even the slightest degree, or
place my subscription in jepardy.
     I would also like to take this oppertunity to thank you for the service
you provide to myself and the hundreds of other 'pipies' and 'Gar Gods'.
 Peace be to you and your house, fromall the members of 'the association'.
Let Love Rule

Stephen T. Yenchko

[ Some administrativa deleted. -S. ]

     In digest #207 a gentleman commented on the younger generation of
pipe and cigar smoking.  I would like to respond to this by testifying
on behalf of the group growing into the realm of non-parent controlled
     Ironically, the group under scrutiny has perhaps hastily been
labeled generation "X".  There are numerous books and an abundant
amount of studies available concerning the negative attributes this
assembly pervades ( I know, I wrote a paper on it ).  However, an
aspect that can quite possibly not be studied-for lack of factual,
physically tangible evidence-is that which exists in the
"underground", one of the dozens of superficial teen subcultures.  The
difference between mainstream and this "underground" resides in the
cultural traits each respective group chooses to accept.
     The mainstream subculture generally ( and I mean generally
-because individual personal attributes extinguishes complete
isolationism by each subculture ) takes heart in the many facets that
high-ranking TV executives ( particularly teen geared-I'll let you
figure that one out ) and trendy magazine editors yield.  Though I
staunchly disagree with many of these fads and the principles that
govern them, they are of each individuals choice, and therefore their
     The "underground" subculture is typically a much more flowing
entity, often becoming an amorphous blob that circumvents many of
society's mannerisms, and then creating their own.  Here many facets
of other subcultures blend and are governed by themselves, not by
foreboding extracurricular influences, like your parents ( e.g.,
telling you what to wear, what to study, ect).  This is not to say the
two are entirely different, as the flexibility of some parts of the
"underground" may warrant mainstream attention.  Such is the case with
my group of friends, and the school we go to.  The current social
affixations are in turmoil over the "turf".  Though this may sound
humorous or immature, please remember the days you spent crawling the
halls of public institutions, just like my high school.
      The scenario is a perfect one to illustrate my point.  About
four years ago the currently "cool"-warning! this is an extremely
slippery term, see glossary for more details-kids were outcasts as a
rage of collectiveness swamped many of the social groups.  Those who
choose not to participate, and "do their own thing" were persecuted.
However, with the help of massive communication, and a wave of
individualism sweeping the nation's schools, and country, those same
outcasts are now "cool".  The philosophers and artists and
sociologists call it pop, but that is an entirely different subject.
Nevertheless it happened, and what were the implications on those
involved?  Well, though this may be answered by another, entirely
separate paper, the ramifications produced generally subjected several
people, at least briefly-if nothing else, to a foreign influence.
What they were exposed to was quite moving, as a "war"-over "turf"-is
currently be waged by some of the sects, on an low-key level.
     While this revolution was occurring, my friends and I, who are
not technically a part of any mainstream or "underground" social
group, experienced the, what we-'the association'-have labeled the
"Pipe Revelation".  On one of our frequent camping excursions, several
of the members bought pipes in jest of a tip of the
pipe-smoking-culture which we had come in contact with earlier.  To
all of our surprise, this was not a fool's tool. No!  The pipe was a
mighty weapon, used to combat the evils of society!  Actually, that
was our initial reaction.  Now, each member is a mature pipe and cigar
smoker.  Point being, the influences of colliding subcultures may have
significant influence on an individuals tastes and preferences.
     To provide perhaps the best illustration for this, I turn your
attention to the concert scene here in Springfield-and, for that
matter, everywhere else I go to see a show.  Each concert I go to, I
smoke several bowls or toke on a hefty Dunhill, and each time the
comments fly.  Parties are the same.  Denny's is perhaps the greatest
at this ( I say Denny's because we get kicked out of all of the jazz
clubs we go to-even though our purpose is not to drink ).  Point
illustrated, the interruption of normal procession, say cigarette
smoking, was accomplished.  Since this endeavor has begun, my friends
and I have managed to educate several people of my own age.
     The world of cigars and pipes will continue in the lives of those
who meet the virtues of a good bowl, or the curling smoke of a Monte
Cruz.  It will reach some by word of mouth, some by club, some by
supermarket magazine rack [( as I read it is "trendy" for cigar
smoking now ) I do believe the new magazine Smoke will achieve
positive results, again by blending subcultures], and others by pages
like this one.  But whatever the route, it is imperative that it
continue via the clashing of subcultures.  That the barriers and
prejudices be overlooked and the smoke rings admired ( which I am
beginning to get quite well at ).  So, on behalf of 'the association',
and stealing a bit from our fearless leader Steve, Smoke in Peace!
						Let Love Rule
						Stephen T. Yenchko

[ I didn't see any legal problems with the article, Stephen, and
enjoyed it greatly. Thanks!  -S. ]

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From: Jimmy Boynton <??????????????????>
Subject: Thanks...

Mr. Masticola:

Allow me to introduce myself:  I am Jimmy Boynton, a sophomore at the 
Universtiy of Michigan.  I have just perused your "How-To" Guide and 
FAQ, and I found it most informative.  I want to thank you for the 

All my life I have heard from teachers, my parents, and almost any adult 
for that matter, that whole speech about the dangers of smoking.  
Because of all this damn nagging, I have become concened with the 
dangers of tobacco.  And, after doing a little research for myself, I 
determined that smoking a pipe once a week won't kill me.  But I would 
like your imput on this situation.  I haven't become addicted (except to 
possibly the aroma), so should I be worried?  How many pipe-fulls does 
the normal pipe smoker smoke?  

Thanks for all your help.  It will be greatly appreciated.

Jimmy Boynton

[ The "normal" pipe smoker?  It varies.  For me, it's one or two a
day, and I consider that a moderate number.  But for at least some of
the insurance companies listed as "hostile" in the Guide, one pipe a
_year_ is enough to get you branded as a witch --er-- commie --er--
smoker. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: Midwest Cigar shops
Hi Steve, You're doing a wonderful job at moderating this newletter, and I'm
enjoying it a lot.  
I don't know if any of these are in your list of shops, but I have found a
couple of interesting, albiet small cigar and pipe shops in the
midwest that are worth checking out if you're in the area.  One in Des Moines,
one north of Chicago, and one in Belleville, (east of St. Louis) Illinois.
In Des Moines, north side at the Merle Hay Mall, you'll find David's Briar
Shop. It has recently enlarged it's humidor room with a great expansion in
Dunhill cigars.  Very nice white tile floor and a matron who can help you make
selections.  She is very friendly, and will offer as much advice and help as
you wish, or leave you to browse as long as needed.  She will also volunteer
her favorites as well.  There is a nice selection of all sizes of cigars and
price ranges including bulk pack cigars.  They may be short on miniatures if
anything.  But a very nice place regardless.  They also
have an excellent selection of pipe tobaccos and pipes.
In Skokie, Illinois, north of Chicago, last fall, I happened upon Cigar King at
8016 Lincoln Ave.  The front looks like (I think it actually is) a Dollar store
with lots of "stuff" inside piled all over the store.  But if you go to the
back of the store, you'll find a small walk in humidor with a nice selection of
cigars at very good prices. Temperature and humidity are carefully maintained. 
A man is there to help you if you need any information.
When I was there, he had a "special" on Las Libertadores unbanded cigars at
$1.00 each. I thought these were quite nice and enjoyable.  I also enjoyed some
nice Thomas Hinds.  
In Belleville, Illinois, near St. Louis, is a quant little place called
"Robusto's".  It is actually a converted house at 3620 North Belt West, just
off of Hwy 161.  They have a coffee shop with gourmet coffee and snacks, a
smoking room if you wish to linger and enjoy, and a nice humidor with a good
selection of cigars.  Not many in the pricey range, though.  I got some small
Hoyo's and Punch's at 80 cents ea. (petite corona size).  I also liked their
exhibit of cigars for the novice to try.  They had 6-8 different cigars in
plastic bags. One was for the "beginner" with primarily mild cigars like
Montesino and Questa Rey.  Another bag with churchills,  another with some of
the more flavorful like Thomas Hinds and Punch, Another of an assortment of
robustos, and so on. These exhibits were nice to help guide the newer smoker to
some pleasant cigars for their taste.  
Those three places were:
David's Briar Shop	(Also, two stores in Omaha) 
Merle Hay Mall
Des Moines Iowa
Cigar King (discount prices)
8016 Lincoln Ave
Skokie, Illinois
3620 North Belt West
Belleville, Illinois
Roger Rezabek
Cedar Falls, Iowa

[ Thanks, Roger! -S. ] 

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Article On Pipe Collecting

Hi! I'm Frank Donadee, publisher of Collector magazine in Southern
California. Our cover story this month is smoking collectibles. We're
inviting individuals, clubs and other smoking related entities to participate
by selling thier smoking collectibles through us. This is free. So if you
have smoking collectibles or are in touch with those that do, please contact
me. Collector magazine, 436 W. 4th St. #222, Pomona, CA 91766 (909) 620-9014.

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From: ??????????????????? (paul kupferschmidt)
Subject: pipe digest

I was vey pleased with my first issue of PD and would like to contribute
some of my own findings on the subject.
I recently came across the following poems from a book titled:
        Pipe and Pouch
        The Smokers own Book of Poetry
        H.M. Caldwell Co., 1894

        Sweet smoking pipe;bright glowing stove
        Companion still of my retreat,
        Thou dost my gloomy thoughts remove,
        And purge my brain with gentle heat.

        Pernicious Weed

        The pipe, with solemn interposing puff,
        Makes half a sentence at a time enough;
        The dozing sages drop the drowsy strain,
        Then pause and puff, and speak, and pause again.
        Such often, like the tube they so admire,
        Important triflers!  have more smoke than fire.
        Pernicious weed! whose scent the fair annoys,
        Unfriendly to society's chief joys,
        Thy worst effect is banishing for hours
        The sex whose presence civilizes ours.
                        william cowper
-----Paul Kupferschmidt

[ Thanks, Paul! -S. ]

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From: Brandon Rottinghaus <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996

Hey, Steve.  I hope your Holiday was nice.  My holiday was terrific.  I got
two great new pipes for Chirstmas along with some great new tobacco.  The 
tobacco is called 'Dolphin' and it is a sweet, aromatic blend.  Terrific 
stuff.  A few notes:

	-Mall tobacco stores.  I know they are cliche, but as the tobacco
	 industry is not as wide spread or as diversified in it's demand
	 as say Wal-Mart, many shops have been forced to move to more
	 commercial, "consumer" areas.  I share many of my fellow pipe
	 smokers contempt for fly-by-night, slick, non-personal, adn
	 capitalistic industries.  A good tobacco store should have not
	 only good tobacco, but also a special personality unique to only
	 itself.  Many mall stores have this, and many do not.  I am 
	 fortunate enough to have a decent mall store on the cusp of

	-What to drink while smoking a pipe.  As I am not of the "age" of
	 alcohol consumption, I strongly suggest a hot cup of Earl Grey 
	 tea.  I take mine with milk and sugar, but you can add your own
	 style to it.  It is perfect for those lazy days after classes are
	 over and studying too stressful.

Well, that's all for now...Have a good week.  
	Smoke in peace,

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From: Richard Padilla <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Your Pipes Digest subscription

Dear Steve and Fellow Pipe-Fans:

As a new member of the Digest I'd like to say Hi to everybody !!!

I feel it's time to introduce myself.  My name is Richard Padilla, I'm 32 years
old and I live in Venezuela (so, be patient with my English !). I've been pipe
smoking for about four month now.

I'm relatively new to all of this, so initially, I signed onto this digest
because I wanted to learn more about pipes brand just 3 weeks ago. Now, I
want to know everything here about pipes.

Steve, let me tell you something, I have been reading the postings in
Pipes Digest in this past three weeks, and have gained a great deal of
information, sections like "PIPE FAQ", "HOW TO", etc. enrich my
knowledge. Thanks to all, a job well done. This is definitely the most
pleasant place to be on the Internet.

- Richard Padilla
  09-Jan-96 5:18p

PS: Are there Spanish speaking members here ?

[ I'm sure there are, Richard. Welcome! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: A pipe for 'newbies' and some trivia

As a young pipe newbie I don't have much of a budget for new pipes. But, I
have recently come across a relatively inexpensive brand. My new Barling
smokes cool and pleasant. I hope this helps those of you with tight budgets.

Now for a grin (or maybe a grimace):
(from the 1996 Legal Lunacies calendar)

"The law in 1859 Richmond, Virginia, prohibited women from puffing on cigars.
Females were banned from smoking a cigar in any public place. Nor could a
woman smoke a cigar around men in the home. The penalty was ridiculously
stern when a woman was cought sucking on a stogie. Such dastardly activity
was punished with an incredible eight years in a women's reformatory! This
law is still on the books!" Hmmm ....


[ As I posted to alt.smokers.cigars, there's also a law in Illinois
that makes it a crime to give lighted cigars to dogs, cats, or other
household pets. (But that's a good thing; let 'em buy their own!) -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????? (Jon Bergstroem)
Subject: Cigar odors

In PD 207 Don Reid described his strategies for eliminating the after-odour 
of cigar smoke. I would like to report my experiences from another method to 
achieve this purpose. Like many of us, I smoke a pipe regularly, and enjoy a 
cigar occasionally, most of them outdoors in the summer. Recently, however, 
I smoked a couple of cigars indoors. When visiting a nearby city I bought a 
couple of Cuban Cohibas with the excuse that they were intended for my 
fathers 70:th birthday party. Then, on returning home, the thought hit me 
that the rest of the family might disapprove when the smoke would start to 
thicken and demand that we put them out. I couldn't take this risk with 
masterpieces such as these so I decided to smoke them at home while the kids 
were with their grandparents (Well, I figured I needed some excuses to smoke 
cigars at that price. And I promised my father to bring a couple of Romeo & 
Julietas in the summer). The Cohibas were by far the best cigars I have ever 
smoked. Perfectly rolled, mild but with an incredibly rich bouquet. (I 
mention the brand and quality just to make you guys across the Atlantic 
green with envy; I know you can't get them where you are). 

But I digress. The odour from these cigars where quite overwhelming even 
some hours after they where out. Therefor I decided to try one of these 
remedies that are occasionally mentioned, but rarely tried. I put out a bowl 
of vinegar in the kitchen, where I had been smoking. In the morning the next 
day the smell was almost completely gone. Chemically this makes sense, as 
odorous compounds in tobacco smoke are heteroaromatic bases, (if my memory 
serves me pyrroles are important, but I may be wrong on this point) which 
will be neutralised and rendered odor free and less volatile by the acetic 
acid fumes from the vinegar. I think this is a cheaper, healthier and more 
efficient way of neutralizing cigar odours than perfumed candles, although I 
must admit candles look nicer. 

Jon B, Sweden

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From: ????????????????????????????? (jkurdsju)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207

At the risk of perpetuating the term, I'd like to wish all my fellow "Pipeies" 
a happy and healthy New Year.  I hope each of you were blessed with a new 
friend to get to know as it is clenched between your teeth over the holidays. 
A beautifully carved meerschaum from my wife still awaits its inaugural match 
due to the rather hectic pace of the season, but you can be sure that it will 
soon be my companion on a cold night near a warm fire. 

I'd like to add my two cents with regard to a couple of topics floating around 
in the past couple digests.  Concerning the choice of spirits to accompany a 
pipe, I have tried single malts, vintage and tawny ports and can attest to the 
merits of each, but have found that my personal preference lies in a snifter 
of brandy or more likely a single barrel bourbon.  For brandy, I have found 
that the subtle fruitiness of a California Alambic better suits a pipe than 
most Cognacs, though I much prefer a Cognac when sipping sans pipe.  My choice 
of bourbon will vary from Booker's (a very strong (115-130 proof), earthy 
flavored single barrel which I cut with 1/3 water) for most English blends, to 
Maker's Mark with most aromatics.  At about $16 per bottle, I find the Maker's 
to be as good or better than most $30-50 single barrel bourbons and far 
superior to most blends (Wild Turkey, Old Granddad, Jim Beam). 

With regard to Bill Unger's story on Tim West, like Steve I purchased a Tim 
West pipe to celebrate a milestone in my life, albeit something much less 
significant than a Master's degree, and it has quickly become one of my 
favorite pipes.  After reading the profile I was ready to chime in about how 
much I enjoy Tim's handiwork, but his follow-up submission about flaws 
caused me to put keyboard in hand immediately.  According to Bill's definition 
I am indeed a pipe collector and choose my pipes not for their 
collectibility/resale value but because there was something special about the 
pipe that said my life would be impossible to live without it.  This was 
definitely the case with this pipe.  When I saw it in a retailer's display 
case, I was drawn to its classic Danish freehand style and beautiful, almost 
straight grain and pulled it out from about 15 other West pieces the shop 
owner had just placed on the shelf.  As I turned it around I noticed a large 
pit (about .5 x 1.25 cm) in the front of the pipe at the top of the bowl.  
>From all that I had read about pipes (I had been only smoking them for about 4 
months at the time) my first inclination was to put it back on the rack.  But 
after looking at several other "more perfect" Wests, I kept going back to my 
first selection.  The "flaw" gave this particular pipe a certain character 
that was hard to resist - like a scar or a mole may lend a certain character 
to a pirate or a supermodel.  I sometimes think about how many others might 
have passed over this beauty had I left it on the shelf that day, but quickly 
let the thought pass as I strike a match and settle back for an hour or so of 
complete bliss.  I would like to personally thank Tim for not putting aside 
this little block of briar as some others would.  

I think I've gone on more than long enough.  Thanks, Steve, for providing this 
forum for all of us.  It has been a source of great enjoyment for me, and I'm 
sure for us all. 

Jake Kurdsjuk 

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From: ??????????????
Subject: First time howdy!!!

Hi Steve,

This is a first time write. I joined just before Christmas and have enjoyed
all the issues. I also read with great inerest "Scramble". What a great
Christmas present. I think I have an answer for Terry Clark on clay pipes. I
do a living history impression of a French Coureur de Bois ( woods runner )
circa 1740 to 1780 and we use clay pipes extensively. Clays are fragile and
break easily and with the advent of briar  slowly  fell out of favor. They do
smoke extremely cool however, and keep a good taste. Clays should not build
up a layer of carbon, I've smoked mine for quite a while and have yet to have
it cake up, although I will admit its is hard to keep one if you use it and
not break it. 

Thanks for the resource guide. I've sent off to the pipe maker of Louisbourg
to see if I can obtain a steady source of clays for my impression.  

Your obediant servant,

Pete Dion

[ Thank you, Pete! -S. ]

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From: Duane Campbell <??????????????>
Subject: Praddling about pipes

I've been lurking for several months and enjoyed every minute of it. Well, 
most minutes of it.

A quick CV. Fifty something (that's going to be a TV show soon). People I've 
known for decades wouldn't recognize me without a pipe in my mouth. Moderately 
serious collector, which means I've got some decent pipes but I smoke them, I 
don't just caress them. I also smoke cigars. Married ...  oh, I guess about 
thirty years. My wife once said that either the cigars go or she would. When 
she heard my answer, and particularly how quickly I gave it, she reconsidered.

I have thought of writing several times, but didn't get to it. So this post 
will be long and cover a number of topics.

I get down to the Washington area once a year or so and always go, cash in 
hand, to Georgetown Tobacco. What a disappointment this time. Their pipe 
collection has shrunk to a couple of wall racks with undistinguished pipes. 
Lot's of high end cigars in an enlarged humidor (along with an attendant who 
is not quite sure where Mexico ends and Honduras begins and what might be in 
between). Are all the good old shops going this way?

I picked up a Wiley, not enthusiastically. I have only two, but both are 
inadequately bored. Is this typical of his work?

My preferences in brands does not seem to fit with conventional wisdom. I've 
smoked just about every pipe made, but my favorite and most reliably decent- 
smoking brands are the moderately priced Butz Choquin and Talamona. 
Particularly Talamona. I have several, and every one is a winner. I got them 
when I frequented a small shop that subsequently went out of business, and I 
have had trouble finding them since. Any suggestions? I searched the archives 
and found almost no mention of them.

Regarding smoking in public, which is becoming increasingly difficult. Several 
years ago -- well, a whole lot of years ago, maybe early eighties -- I 
gradually became aware that people were coming up to me and commenting 
positively on the smell of my pipe smoke. Usually women. Usually either old or 
ugly, but you take your reinforcement where you can get it. In an effort to 
quantify this, I kept notes for over six months. Turns out that on average 
once every eight days a total stranger would comment on how much they enjoyed 
the smell.

Things have changed. 

There were recent comments on pipe cleaners. I am a Scot. OK, my ancestors 
crossed the ocean over three hundred years ago, but I'm still a Scot. And I 
noticed that when you use a pipe cleaner, you only really use about three 
quarters of an inch of it and throw the rest of perfectly good pipe cleaning 
potential away. So I buy 12 inch pipe cleaners in craft stores. I use one, 
clip off the bottom inch, and still have eleven inches left. Use it again, 
clip, and so on. You still have to toss the last six inches, but you get a lot 
of use out of one cleaner.

Lastly (yes, I'm almost through), a word on pipe racks. Several words, 
actually. Many words.

A serious pipe smoker will go broke buying those eight-pipe racks and run out 
of desk space to put them on. I came up with a fairly simple, cheap method to 
build extensive wall mounted racks with materials available from any building 
supply store. Get a length of crown molding, a length of finished one-quarter 
by two, and a piece of quarter inch plywood. You will also need a table saw or 
a neighbor with one and a drill with about a 7/8th inch bit. All of the wood 
should be as long as the space on the wall you want to fill with pipes. You 
can, of course, stack them one above another.

Cut the quarter inch plywood into strips about five inches wide. While you are 
at the table saw, take a look at the crown molding. It is designed to be 
mounted at 45 degree angles, and you want to mount it at 90 degrees to form 
the bottom of the rack. So you need to shave off the edge of one side to make 
a right angle.

Attatch the cove to the plywood backing with glue and staples or brads and 
clamps. (Did I mention you need clamps? Borrow them from the neighbor with the 
table saw.) This is the base where the pipe bowl sits.

In the two inch strip, drill 7/8th inch holes on about two inch centers. 
Attach it to the top of the plywood strip -- glue, brads, clamps ... you know. 
Attach the assembly to the wall and you have as much pipe rack as you want for 
a few bucks. Not elegant, but not bad looking either. Slap a coat of paint on 
it before you screw it to the wall. 

So ...  a couple of questions, a couple of suggestions. That should keep me 
quiet for a few more months.

Duane Campbell

"If you want peace, you've got to be willing to fight for it"

[ Thanks, Duane!  Actually, you've given me some ideas on making your
own pipe racks. You might get nicer results on the racks by buying
plain oak boards (rather than crown moulding) and routing the edges
yourself.  Also it'd be best to use Forstner bits to bore the holes,
and maybe finish with Danish oil.  The little dished spots for the
pipe could be made with a router, with the appropriate jig.  (But how
could you bore the C-shaped holes, or rout around them, without some
hellacious tear-out?)

Good project for a snowy Sunday. If anyone knows of a source of plans
for pipe racks, please let us know! -S. ]

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From: Will Foy <??????????????????>
Subject: new year's and a response

Greetings, fellow Pipe-heads...

now on a frozen winter break from school, i took an excursion to DC for some
job interviews, and to visit w/ an old high school friend last week... while i
was in the reston/herndon area, i stopped by john b. hayes' store... i picked
up three fabulous blends: commonwealth [ a cherry aromatic], mandarin, and
ale... imagine smoking newcastle brown ale and that's pretty comparable.  in
fact, i plan to smoke the majority of dark ale, with my favorite dark ale,
mcewan's export [ an india pale ale for those so inclined].  the interviews
went well and so did my excursion to the store... hayes' shop is located in
fair oaks mall, and while he pays large rent, it is a well run shop, w/
knowledgeable sales folk, and a great selection, pipes, accessories, cigars,
and other paraphrenalia...  when you're in the area, i highly recommend that
you visit his shop.


"Steve Shoopak (x1380)" <??????????????????????>
Tivoli sounds like a Tinder Box blend i used to smoke, vaguely aromatic w/ a
hint of maybe almond, or something along that line.... nice fora  while, but i
like McRanie's dolphin better for that type of blend..

see ya next pipe, smoke em if you got em.  peace, will

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[ I've been in John B. Hayes, thanks to John Weinstein; definitely
worth checking into when in the DC area.  Thanks! -S. ]

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From: John Edlund 07-22-92 <??????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996

Dear Steve,

I have been enjoying the Pipes Digest for several months now.  Although I
have been smoking pipes for almost 20 years, in the past year or so I have
learned more from the Digest and alt.smokers.pipes than in all the other
years combined.  What an articulate and civilized group of folks the on-line
pipe smoking community is!

Here is my first contribution to the Digest.  I hope it is useful.


John Edlund


    Although I have been smoking a pipe for many years, recently I became
more interested in pipes and pipe smoking, and as a result I have been
smoking more.  This led to a tongue and mouth that were occasionally a little
worse for wear, and I began searching for a cooler pipe.  My arsenal of pipes
up to that point consisted entirely of mid-range pipes and seconds.  I had
good names--Peterson, Nording, Savinelli, Stanwell--but certainly nothing
from the top of the line in any mark.  However, as my fortunes had not
changed, I was not in a position to purchase a handful of Dunhills or
Castellos.  So I began to experiment with some different designs instead.

The Churchwarden

    The first pipe I bought with the cool smoke in mind was a Stanwell briar
churchwarden called the "Hans Christian Anderson" model.  This pipe came with
two bits: a standard length and a churchwarden.  (It also came with a green
Stanwell tote bag, which my wife found to be the perfect thing in which to
carry her ice skates.) The pipe is a delight to smoke and is definitely
cooler with the churchwarden bit.  I believe it is not merely the extra
length that cools the smoke.  Somehow, the extra length changes the physics
of the draw in subtle ways, making it easier not to oversmoke the pipe and
create a furnace.  The pipe stays lit with slow and meditative puffing, and
the physical length of the thing discourages one from moving about very much,
so that one does not have to even think about getting up to mow the lawn or
trim the roses.  Definitely a success in the search for the cool smoke, but
as any smoker knows, one cool pipe is not enough.

    A clay churchwarden would be another candidate for a cool smoke, but so
far I have not been able to find one at a reasonable price.  The clay is so
fragile that people in the seventeenth century bought them by the dozen, or
even by the gross.  Nowadays it seems that they are being sold as authentic
replicas of the past.  The last one I saw cost $45.  I will continue to

The Calabash

    This Christmas I got a Pioneer calabash.  I had heard about the calabash
pipe, but I had never really looked at one closely.  For those who haven't
examined one, it is a simple and effective design consisting of four pieces:
a large piece of block meerschaum with a fairly large bowl bored into it, the
gourd, a black lucite ferrule, and a black lucite bit.  The meerschaum sits
on top of the gourd, held tightly in place by a cork gasket.  Although the
meerschaum doesn't exactly screw in, I was advised to turn the bowl 1/4 turn
counter-clockwise to remove it, and 1/4 turn clockwise to seat it again, and
to remove the bowl periodically to let the gourd dry out.  So far it has not
been necessary to dry it out.

    The calabash provides a very cool smoke, because of the large air
chamber in the gourd.  I have been smoking Cornell & Diehl #531 in it, and it
is just delightful.  It is a large pipe, and a little heavy, so it is
definitely a stay at home smoke and not a pipe to hold in your teeth while
working on something, but it has quickly become my favorite companion with a

    Smoking a calabash is almost effortless.  I rarely have to relight, and
there is never any dottle.  It smokes down to grey ash every time, and it
lasts a long time, on one occasion, through an entire samurai movie.  The
gourd has already begun to darken with use, even though I have probably only
smoked it about 10 times.

The Kirsten

    I heard about Kirstens on alt.smokers.pipes.  I sent away for their
catalogue and received it very quickly.  They call it "the world's coolest
pipe." I faxed them an order for a 1/4 bent Cavalier at $40, and received it
in six days.

    A Kirsten also consists of four basic parts--the aluminum "radiator"
stem, the valve on the front, the mouthpiece, and the screw on bowl.  The
stem comes in black, silvertone or brasstone; the mouthpiece in ebonite or
lucite, and there are several bowl shapes with a variety of finishes.  The
bowls are mostly briar, but you can also get meerschaum.  Mine has a medium
light-finished briar bowl in a shape called "mandarin."  There are several
standard packages, but in effect you can order any combination of parts you

    According to the catalogue, the basic design was created by Dr. Kirsten,
an aeronautical engineer, in 1936.  He had been advised by his doctor to
switch to a pipe from cigarettes, but he didn't like the briar pipes
available to him.  He was trying to get the cooling properties of a
churchwarden into a smaller, more portable package.  The result certainly
looks like a pipe designed by an engineer.  It has a sort of "future as seen
from the past" quality, like it came from an old movie serial like Flash
Gordon, or Commander Cody and his Lost Planet Airmen.  The briar bowl just
doesn't look quite natural sitting on top of the shiny, cooling fin-equipped
aluminum barrel, but I suppose that it is a tribute to the exceptional
qualities of briar that there is no satisfactory high tech material to
replace it.  The full bent pipes in the catalogue look somewhat like
saxophones, and one large black full bent with a white meerschaum bowl
doesn't look much like anything readily identifiable at all, though it _is_
rather attractive.

    The bowl on mine, which has a nice mixed straight grain,  is wider and
shallower than most briars.  I have a bit of trouble at the beginning,
usually requiring two or more charring lights, but after you get it going it
smokes well.  There is a bit of a metallic taste until the pipe warms up.
After that, it is an enjoyable and flavorful smoke, and quite a bit of fun.

    Is it cool?  Well, as you smoke, moisture from the tobacco condenses
inside the barrel of the pipe, as the excess heat radiates from the aluminum
surface.  This moisture would have otherwise arrived at your tongue as steam,
so it is beneficial to remove it.  You can turn the valve and shut off the
draft hole, so the condensate can't leak out into the bowl when you dump the
ashes or put the pipe in your coat pocket, as tends to happen with a Peterson
system pipe.  All in all, the Kirsten works well, and delivers a smoke that
is cooler than the briar churchwarden, but not quite as cool as the calabash.
 Opinions will certainly differ on the aesthetic qualities of the Kirsten,
which may offend, intrigue or delight you, but all three pipes are noticeably
cooler than any of my standard briars, and offer a respite from tongue bite
and cooked mouth.  Of course, as always, your mileage may vary.

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From: Todd Caldwell <????????????????????>
Subject: Newbie question

Hi pipers.  I am new to the world of pipe collecting.  I recently  
went to my local pipe shop and selected a nice briar 'second.'  With  
the purchase of the pipe I was allowed to select an ounce of tobacco.   
I chose a wonderfully aromatic blend called champagne.  It smelled  

Now, I have been around people smoking pipes before and have very  
much enjoyed the smell.  When I lit this thing, not one smidgen of  
the previously wonderful aroma was present...all I got was the taste  
and smell of old, stale, burnt tobacco -- quite similar to what I  
remember my old high school restroom smelling like.  This cannot be  
what pipers enjoy.  I know that something must be wrong.

Is it possible I am doing something wrong?  Or could a cheaply made  
pipe result in such a distasteful and smelly mess?  I read the howto  
docs and faqs.  Honestly, none of the smells I associate with being  
around pipe smokers in the past was present here...this was as bad as  
or worse than cheap cigarrete smoke (no offense, but cigarette smoke  
bothers me).

Any advice or instruction would be greatly appreciated...thanks.


Todd Caldwell
University of Kentucky
Math Sciences Instructional Lab
email: ????????????????????

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From: Bruce  Harris <?????????????????????????>
Subject: PD

Stephen: Thanks for sending all the issues of PD. My computer is new
and it has taken me some time to be able to access and read these
issues. Great stuff! I collect Marxman pipes - especially large pieces
and any unsmoked pipes.  I also collect Marxman advertising items and
any relevant literature. I have other pipes in addition to the
Marxmans. I also smoke Dunhills, Petersons, and Barlings. I am not a
frequent smoker, but when I do, I smoke Edward G. Robinson blend
(available from Fred Stoker & Sons). This may be a silly question, but
am I contributing to PD by virtue of this letter? Or, must I submit
another way?  Thanks again.

[ No, just mail it to me.  Good luck on the Marxmans! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????? (Evan Wilson)
Subject: cigars

I wanted to let you know that Wilson/Lucas, Inc. of Moscow, Idaho have
produced the Rudyard Kipling poem, The Betrothed, as a suitable for framing,
full color art print (18x24). This work expresses the sentiments of cigar
smokers everywhere and of course has the famous line A WOMAN IS ONLY A WOMAN
BUT A GOOD CIGAR IS A SMOKE. If any are interested in such a product, they
can write Wilson /Lucas at P.O. Box 10001, Moscow, Idaho 83843 or call
208-883-3300. The product costs $39.95 plus shipping and handling. A
postcard version is also available and can be sent as sample on request.
One can also reach me at my email address (I am the Wilson of Wilson/Lucas).
Feel free to let anyone else who loves cigars know of this. Thank you.

Your humble servant,
Evan Wilson

[ Done, Evan!  Though I doubt that, with many women smoking cigars
these days, the poem expresses a universal sentiment... In "With Pipe
and Book" (the book, not the shop) are a couple of poems _by_ woman
cigar smokers; perhaps you'd consider putting those out as well? -S. ]

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #208 -- January 14, 1996
  2. Subject: (no subject)
  3. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207 -- Smoke vs computer
  4. Subject: Smoke and Computers
  5. Subject: long time
  6. Subject: Need advice for a beginning pipe smoker
  7. Subject: Happy New Year, fatherhood, drinks...
  8. Subject: Pipes for novices
  9. Subject: my meerschaum is cracking!
  10. Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996
  11. Subject: Tobaccos
  12. Subject: Mystery Phrase
  13. Subject: pipes & tobaccos subscription
  14. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996
  15. Subject: Re: Cigar and pipe stores in Israel
  16. Subject: Sulivan's Tobacco
  17. Subject: Ed's Pipe Shop
  18. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996
  19. Subject: Pipes
  20. Subject: Addition for the Guide
  21. Subject: A belated introduction
  22. Subject: Idle Ramblings...
  23. Subject: Greetings
  24. Subject: Intro & Response
  25. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996
  26. Subject: Pipe Sweetner/It's a Boy/Girl Cigars
  27. Subject: Hello!~Smoke vs.Computer~Cigars~!
  28. Subject: youth pipe and cigar smoking
  29. Subject: Thanks...
  30. Subject: Midwest Cigar shops
  31. Subject: Article On Pipe Collecting
  32. Subject: pipe digest
  33. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996
  34. Subject: Your Pipes Digest subscription
  35. Subject: A pipe for 'newbies' and some trivia
  36. Subject: Cigar odors
  37. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207
  38. Subject: First time howdy!!!
  39. Subject: Praddling about pipes
  40. Subject: new year's and a response
  41. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #207 -- January 4, 1996
  42. Subject: Newbie question
  43. Subject: PD
  44. Subject: cigars
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