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Subject: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996

		Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996
	     Copyright (C) 1996 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 1916

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[ADMIN] Due to the intrepid efforts of Rick Larson (????????????????????)
and our Webmaster, Steve Beaty (?????????????????????????), some portions
of the original 1964 Surgeon General's report 64-1103 dealing with pipe and
cigar smoking are now available on the Pipes Digest web page
(http://www.tacoma.net/~pipes). Rick scanned them in and Steve OCRed them
(with help from his wife on some editing.) See their letters later in this
Digest.  Many, many thanks to all three!

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #209 -- January 29, 1996

Dear Steve, 

I've been smoking cigars now for a couple of years, and I must admit that 
when I can afford them, they are my true passion.  However, I am a college
student and cigars are expensive so last year I tried a pipe.  Very different,
but very pleasureable, too.  I do not know anything about pipes (briar?, 
meerschaum?, cake?, etc.) but I would like to learn.  Ive found that asking 
local tabaconists usually only results in a sales pitch.  Where is best to 
pick up on these things?  Is there some comprehensive book for beginers?
I don't even know the finer points of actually smoking my pipe.  Where can I
Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated.

				-Jeff Rank

[ As always, we can recommend Rick Hacker's and Carl Ehwa's books, or our
own "How-To" guide, and Sami Mikhail's and our own FAQ. (Must admit that
Sami's is the better.) -S. ]

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From: "Michael Damphousse" <???????????????>
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #209 -- January 29, 1996

[ From Mike's letter in Pipes Digest #209:

>Also, due to Andover BANNING smoking in public establishments, we have got
>The Andover Inn convinced to provide us with a smoking lounge just for our 


[An excellent response to an execrable law, Mike!  If you can supply
an address/phone, I'll place the Andover Inn and your cigar club in
the Guide. -S.]

Cigars of Andover
Suite 300 - 800 Turnpike St.
North Andover, MA 01845
508-681-8434 fax

Monthly meetings with 3 cigars, hors d'oeuvres and cash bar.

Thanks for the listing...

Mike...a.k.a. "damp"

[ My pleasure, and I'm glad to do the same for any other such club! -S. ]

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From: Jeff Jewell <?????????????????>
Subject: A PD submission

Hi Steve,

Once again I must say that your dedication to the pipes digest is greatly
appreciated by all that you serve.  Thanks...

James "BriarPipes" Lawson said:

>I continue to be struck by the pipe that Lee Van Cleef smoked in the second
>movie "For a Few Dollars More."  It is  large, 3/4 bent, tan in color, and
>appears to be a sandblast.  It seems to have an amber (or maybe bone) stem.
> What a pipe!

I was very intrigued with it myself and had some of the same reactions,
such as: 

>I wish I had taped the movies (they were shown in the letter-box format).  To
>me, just the image of Van Cleef slowly and deliberately lighting that pipe,
>makes the movie memorable.  He looks legit' smoking a pipe. 

I also thought that Van Cleef was either A) a real life pipesmoker or B) did
some very good rehearsing because he looked very natural.

What I'm hoping is that there is a PD reader who has a way of getting a
video frame into a .GIF or .JPG file -- Also, I've often thought of putting
a page up off my homepage (which is under very slow construction right now
at www.cris.com/~jcjewell) that is dedicated to pictures and .AVI or .MOV
files of famous people or movie clips of pipe smoking.  I need to start
keeping track of who I see and where I see them, though.  Another movie that
I saw not long ago, I don't remember the name of it, but it had Bryan
Denehey (sp?) in it as Leslie Groves, the military officier in charge of the
Manhattan project.  Many of the nuclear scientists smoked pipes.  I suppose
it was much more common then (that was before my time :)

If there would be an interest in seeing such a collection of pipe pictures
and video clips, and other PD readers had some things to contribute, I'd do
the HTML work and put it up.  Write me:


--Jeff "Charlie" Jewell

[ I believe that the movie about the A-bomb was titled "Fat Man and Little
Boy." Don't remember that Groves smoked a pipe, but Oppenheimer definitely
did. Excellent picture, BTW. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: Actors and Pipe Smoking

In the last digest I heard mention briefly of the notion that many times 
actors are playing a character who smokes a pipe, but he does not have 
the knowledge of how to realistically smoke a pipe.  I too have noticed 
this quite often.  Lee Van Cleef (mentioned last time) was either an 
excellent actor or he really knew and enjoyed smoking a pipe for his 
portrayal was realistic.  Watson seemed a more sincere pipe smoker than 
Sherlock himself in the black and white films from the 40's... even in 
television it is easy to spot.... If any of you watched Simon & Simon in 
the 80's, Gerald McRaney's character was far a far more realistic in 
using a pipe as a disguise (realistically) than was the actor who played 
his brother on the show.  They would regularly don pipes or cigars as a 
part of an undercover disguise.  It was easy to see Gerald McRaney knew 
his way around a briar or cigar, whereas the other one did not.
I guess I am just mentioning I also notice the true pipe smokers in the 
movies and tv.... and I look at them favorably.  The poor imposters... 
those that go through the motions in a contrived manner... actually 
detract from a flim or show and distract me.  I wonder if anyone else 
notices this same situation?

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From: Timothy Woods <??????????????????>
Subject: Irish tobacco by Mullingars

(Steve, This is meant to be a post to the Digest -- have I sent it to
the right address?)

In PD 209, someone was asking about tobacco blends from Ireland.  Many
years ago I bought a few tins of tobacco from Ireland, by a company
called Mullingars.  I don't remember the name of the blend, but it
wasn't "Irish Mead" (which is (was?) also made by Mulingars).   I really
enjoyed the tins, but have never been able to find it again.  Does
anyone know anything about Mulingars -- if they are still in business,
and how they might be reached?

Thanks for any info ...
Timothy Woods
Tel. (613) 567-3337
Fax (613) 567-2037

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From: "Van B. Adams" <???????????????????>
Subject:       Submission for PD:  Try the Drugstore Brands!!!

If you are like me, you don't have memories of adults smoking 
Dunhills with fine English blends of Latikia, Virginias, and  
Orientals, spiced with Perique.  No,  I  recall all those guys 
in the barber shop with their Dr. Grabows , Medicos, and if they were 
really fancy, Kaywoodies,,, puffing away on Prince Albert, Velvet, Half 
and Half, Carter Hall, and Sir Walter Raleigh.  There were so many 
brands of pipe tobacco, most still being sold.  I still see Granger, 
Our Advertiser, Field and Stream, Revelation, Kentucky Club, and 
Middleton's Cherry Blend for sale in the supermarkets, along with 
other old "standards".   You can still find the boards of cheap 
laquered pipes, and here in Missouri the Missouri Meerschaum factory 
still churns out several million corn cobs each year.  Can all the 
people that use those cheap pipes and smoke that cheap tobacco know 
something we don't?

I know the "drugstore brands" lack sophistication and character.  I 
realize that the accomplished pipester would never smoke them in the 
company of folks who "know" about pipes.  But, just like a blond 
cheerleader and a Z-28 are a LOT of fun, although not at all classy, 
a corn cob and a bowl of Half and Half is a great smoke!!!

So, when no one is looking, I sneak some cheap tobacco in the cart at 
the supermarket.  I even have a few Medicos with the FILTERS hidden 
away from the pipes I show to my friends.  And sometimes, when no one 
is looking, I kick back with a cheap pipe and smoke the brands I used 
to see when I was a little boy in the barbershop.

It's a lot of fun, except Prince Albert doesn't come in a pocket tin 
anymore.  Imagine that, no more "Prince Albert in a can" jokes.  
Another piece of Americana gone.  But Velvet still comes in the can.

So go ahead, slum a little.  Nobody at the pipe shop needs to know.  

Van Adams

[ Indeed, Van!  Craig Tarler also related a story to me about a show he
attended, at which a group of "macho English smokers" bought up his stock
of Apricots and Cream.  And Prince Albert still does come in a can; I think
the 16-ounce size. Hasn't anyone let him out yet? :-) -S.]

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Kabik Pipes

Steve, you'll probably get hundreds of replies to the letter in # 209 about
Kabik pipes, but I'll add what I know.  I can't imagine having one and not
being able to sell or give it away--perhaps that was a joke.  Anyway,
Michael Kabik is a noted American pipemaker of long standing.  He started
his Sven-Lar line in the mid-70s, which are the ones marked "Skulptur by
Kabik."  All these that I have seen are beautiful pipes.  They often (or
usually--I'm not sure) came with their own pipe rest carved from a block of
briar.  Often, in fact, there is a two-pipe set resting in a carved briar
block and facing different

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

[ Also see below. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: (1) Information re.: KABIK ; (2) DRUG STORE PIPES

1. Michael V. Kabik a pipe maker for some 17 years when listed in DIRECTORY
OF AMERICAN PIPEMAKERS in 1987. Among the pipe brands for which he crafted
PRESIDENTIALS, SCULPTUR, and his own name.

    A subscriber wants to know if there's a difference between his Dr. Grabow
drug store pipes and more expensive ones. He then goes on to answer his own
question, perhaps unknowingly, when he complains about the moisture build-up
and "gurgling" sound when he smokes his Dr Grabows. The difference of course
is that the cheap drug store pipes are made from the interior of the briar
burl which is dense and relativeatly grain free.Consequently it doesn't
absorb moisture like the outer surface of the burl (plateau) which is
lightweight, porous and beautifully grained. It's the latter that's used for
more expensive pipes and as any seasoned pipe smoker will attest, well worth
the extra price.
                                               Al Baier

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From: ???????????????? (boromir)
Subject: Pipe Question

  Hi Steve... two questions for you:

  1. Just saw "Hot Shots: Part Deux" on TV last night. In once scene, Lloyd
Bridges is smoking a pipe. He also smoked a pipe in "Joe Versus The
Volcano". Is Lloyd a true pipesmoker or was he acting??

  2.  Does Walter Cronkite still smoke a pipe and if so, what blend does he
smoke? (I threw a message in the a.s.p but never got a reply)

Thanks in advance, talk to you soon...   John

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From: Phil Cunningham <?????????????????????>
Subject: PD Submission

Dear Steve, et al;

I'd like to put my two cents worth on a couple of questions.  In response to
Morris Acevedo's question about calabashes (calabashi?, calabi?), they are
$57 for a small and $65 for a large in my area.  To Chris Bolstad's question
about Alphas, I own two of the Israeli Alphas.  They are passably good pipes
but, IMHO, I'd rather buy a GBD for less money.  My understanding is that
they are now being made by Sparta of Dr Grabow fame.  The Israeli Alpha's
I've seen are usually fanciful and I think that is their appeal.  I paid $30
each for the ones I have. For those asking about Condor, I recently
purchased a box of six pouches from JR (@15 dollars).  I bought it at their
store, but they may also carry it mail order.  It is, btw, very good tobacco.

Smokingly yours,

Phil Cunningham

[ Calabashoj? -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #209 -- January 29, 1996

anyone been to the Grand Havana room in Beverly Hills ? If so what did you
think ?

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From: "Sami Mikhail" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #209 -- January 29, 1996



#include "ManyThanksForDigest.H"

Being that at least two folks have recomended the Salt packing method for 
cleaning overly sour pipes, I wanted to add a caution.

>From Experience: Do NOT use the Salt treatment method on Meerschaum Calabash 
inserts. They WILL Crack beyond repair!

Still looking for a Meerschaum insert. (Couple - three folks have already
given me leads (Thanks Guys!), but I can always use more.)

Sami Mikhail.       _ .~ |Want an URL Catcher? Go to :
(??????????????????) \U  |http://rampages.onramp.net/~mikhail/

[ #include <ManyThanksForFAQ.sami>! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????? (Frederick A. Larson)
Subject: SG report

In the last PD, a librarian asked about the Surgeon General's report which
notes that pipesmokers live longer than nonsmokers. The report is:

Public Health Service. Department of Health, Education, and Welfare.
Smoking and health: report of the Advisory Committee to the Surgeon General
of the Public Health Service. Washington, DC: US Department of Health,
Education, and Welfare, Public Health Service, 1964; DHHS publication

It's long out of print, but should be in a good library if not stolen
(common), lost or defaced by anti-tobacco "researchers." The chapter
referenced is Chapter 8, which deals with mortality rates. The quotes often
seen online from this report are rarely accurate verbatim quotes. However,
the general sense of the "quotes" is correct. This report (and later ones
from the SG which more thoroughly address pipe and cigar smoking) should
give any pipe smoker considerable comfort. Having read all the reports, it
is clear to me that pipe smoking has risks, but significant health risks
are not among them.

Someone plainly needs to put these reports on the net. They are public
documents produced by the feds with tax dollars. I have decent scans of
relevant portions of 64-1103. Might also have portions of the 1979 report
on pipes and cigars. If someone is willing to put these up on the Web, I'll
contribute the scans. They really belong on the Pipes Digest page.

Contact me if interested.


Frederick A. Larson
111 University Drive East, Suite 220
College Station, Texas 77480

voice (409)846-6078
fax (409)846-5419
email ????????????????????

[ and later, after Rick digitized them and I struggled with the Stuffit
archives on both Unix and Windows systems... -S. ]

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From: Steve Beaty <???????????????>
Subject: Surgeons General's report online


        through the kindness of Frederick A. Larson (????????????????????),
excerpts from the Surgeons General's 1964 report on the mortatlity rates of
pipe and cigar smokers is available on the Pipes Web page at:


any mistakes in transcription are probably mine.

Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                 ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA        http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/

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From: James Westmoreland <???????????????????>
Subject: Info Request

Dear Steve and PD readers,
        Thank you for what you have done with the Digest. I have only
recieved three issues, but each was printed and read over many times by my
friends.  I am 23 years old and have been smoking a pipe for about 5 years
now (I come from a long line of pipe smokers).  I collect mostly Savinelli's
and smoke cavindish blends (but I like to try different tobaccos
occasionally). I have many friends that enjoy pipes now, most of which I
converted from cigars or cigarettes when we were in High School (I bought my
best friend a meerschaum for Christmas, and Christmas was good!).

        The reason that I am writing is that a new cigar shop has opened
here in town, they specialize in rare and hard to find cigars.  I've been in
several times because they keep threatening to unpack a bunch of Dunhills.
The manager, Bill, is interested in ordering some pipe tobaccos from Europe
and employed my help in acquiring a few resources.  1) We are looking for
addresses for shops in European locals from which we may obtain high quality
tobacco. 2) We are also looking for someone in Fresno, the Bay Area, and/or
California to do repair work/refurbishing/manufacturing of pipes. Top dollar
will be paid for quality craftsmanship. Please send any reply to my address
listed below.

Thank you in advance for any and all assistance.

James Westmoreland <?????????????????????>
Systems Analyst
Student CSUF - Criminology & Psychology
Fresno, California 

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From: ??????????????????? (Paul J. Ste. Marie)
Subject: Calabash prices

Morris Acevedo <??????????????????> writes:
>I have not seen any Calalbash pipes in the stores
>that I go to and I imagine that they would cost around $100.  What is the
>average price for a Calabash?  I would like to hear if other people enjoy
>this unusuall pipe.

I have a calabash from CAO with a block meerschaum insert that ran about 
$140 as I recall.  The more common ones with the pressed meerscham inserts 
generally run in the $65-85 range.

        --Paul J. Ste. Marie, ??????????????????????, ???????????????????

Warning: Posting the text of II Kings 18:27 (KJV) may be a Federal offense
punishable by 2 years in prison and a $100,000 fine under provisions of
the telecom bill just passed by Congress.  See http://www.cdt.org/cda.html 
for details.

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: catalan pipe craftmanship


To you or anyone who might be interested: celebration of a pipe craftmanship
exhibition in Barcelona. 

This is sponsored by the "Barcelona Pipa Club", starts today and lasts until
February 25th, in the "Centre Permanent d'Artesania de la Generalitat de
Catalunya", at Passeig de Gracia 55.

Best regards,

Ricard Pardell

Thanks for the pipes digest.

[ Hope this generates some interest in Barcelona, Ricard! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????????????????????????
Subject: pipe digest 

Great site!  I haven't smoked my pipes in quite a few years - others in my
household don't like it - so I think I'll start up again this spring out in
the garage while I'm working on my cars.  And I'll write my congressman.
Any hints on what I should be telling him?  Thanks for any help. -- Mike

[ We regularly print announcements of legislation aimed at us... stay
tuned.  For now, a line opposing FDA's attempt to control the sale of
tobacco wouldn't be a bad idea. -S. ]

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From: Sergio Iannini - SFI/Avirnex Communications <???????????????????????>
Subject: Special Offer for Pipes Digest readers

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[ Readers, I was in a quandary about whether to put this in.  It's
tangentially on topic, and within the bounds of the current submission
guidelines, but not by much.  I'd really like to limit the advetising to
goods and services specifically of interest to the hobby. Please let me
know how you feel. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????????????
Subject: Digest submission - Smoking Large Pipes


I am sending in this article for those who are interested in smoking very large
pipes.  By magnum, I mean an internal bowl size of 1-1/4" or larger, and a bowl
height of 3" or higher. 

Smoking Magnum size pipes is a little bit different than smoking conventional
size pipes.  The bowl is a lot bigger, the air passage through the shank and
bit should be bigger, and they are heavier.  Each of these attributes make a
difference in the way that the pipes are smoked and enjoyed. 

When packing the bowl full of tobacco, start filling the pipe loosely until it
is half full, then lightly pack with the fingers until it is lightly springy.
Continue to fill the bowl to the top by pushing down more firmly so that the
surface of the tobacco is slightly firm.  Top off the bowl if necessary,
because the large size of the bowl allows for a lot of compaction, and the
finished cake of tobacco in the bowl may have sunken half an inch or more in
the final packing procedure. 

Blow from the bowl end of the pipe to clear out small bits of tobacco that may
have found their way into the shank area of the airway.  Blow from the bit end,
then suck air in through the bit to see if the draw is adequate.  If you have
packed too tightly, the draw will be difficult.  Empty the pipe with a pipe
tool into your pouch and try again.  If the bowl is packed too tightly, the
draw will be too slow and if packed too lightly, it will smoke too hot and the
tobacco will sink down dramatically when you tamp during smoking.  One of the
most attractive features of a super oversized pipe is the freedom of air
(smoke) movement through the pipe.  This is referred to as the "draw". 

After the pipe is packed, you are ready to light up.  I suggest a butane pipe
lighter such as a Colibri clip lighter.  Matches are too slow and cumbersome
for wide bowls, just be careful not to scorch the top edge of the bowl with
your lighter.  Zippos are fine, but they do leave a lighter fluid taste behind.
They also have a slower moving flame which requires a great deal of suction to 
pull the flame down into the tobacco.  If you have no problem with either one 
of these characteristics, then a Zippo is fine.  In windy locations, a Zippo is 
the only lighter that will stay lit - the Zippo pipe lighter is good under 
these situations.  

Begin by holding the pipe so that the bowl is vertical, not tipped forward or
to the side.  Holding the lighter in one hand and the pipe in the other, hold
the flame over the surface of the tobacco and begin puffing in with the cheeks,
holding the bit right at your lips.  The flame should be pulled straight down
into the tobacco.  Move the flame over the surface of the tobacco and scorch
the entire surface.  The tobacco will puff up and curl. Tamp the surface of the
tobacco lightly and make it level again.  This procedure usually needs to
repeated two more times before the entire surface of the tobacco is a bright
orange glow.  At this time, you can slow down and start smoking normally.  Big
bowls will take more tamping to get them going properly, because the tobacco
tends to curl up more when the bowl is a large diameter. Big pipes also take
more puffing than a smaller one to get completely lit. 

If you have never inhaled on your pipe before, try holding the pipe in your
teeth and breathe normally through your mouth so that you get a gentle stream
of smoke with each breath.  For a beginner, you should not try to inhale any
deeper right away.  Wait until this level of smoking feels comfortable before
you go any farther.  Tamp the tobacco when the smoke seems to get weaker.
Tamping is required when the top layer of tobacco ash is light and gray
colored.  Experience will indicate when tamping is required by the way the pipe
draws and the way the smoke tastes.  Do not press too hard, or the tobacco cake
will be overly compressed and will not pass the smoke through properly. 

Large pipes do not get as wet on the bottom as smaller ones do.  The wide bowl
size and greater surface of burning tobacco seems to vaporize a lot of the
water in contrast to a smaller pipe.  Use a long pipe cleaner through the end
of the bit all the way to the bottom of the bowl.  Use a twisting motion if
necessary to work it all the way down.  10-12 inch pipe cleaners are not
uncommon and are indispensable for big pipe smoking. 

After you have become accustomed to inhaling the light stream of smoke,  try
sealing up the lips a little more so that you get more smoke and less air.
Experiment with this for a while until you are able to take in a short blast of
smoke, then open the lips and top off the breath with air.  Exhaling through
the nose will increase the contact area for the smoke, and thus increase the
amount of smoke products that you absorb.  This will also create a different
feel than exhaling through the lips. 

As you become more familiar with this smoking technique, you can try increasing
the smoke to air ratio until you achieve a very pleasant warm feeling in the
chest as you smoke.  You can either inhale continuously with a constant
smoke/air mixture while you have the pipe in your teeth, or you can inhale a
burst of smoke followed by a topping off of air.  You may want to try holding
the pipe in your hand and pulling in the smoke using your cheeks as you inhale
as if you were lighting the pipe.  You can use this technique in lighting your
pipe as well. 

Some of the largest magnums almost require that you inhale while lighting the
pipe so that enough air gets through the pipe, otherwise, the tobacco may not
get completely lit evenly.  After you are comfortable with this, you can light
the pipe while it is in your teeth simply by inhaling forcefully while you
circle the lighter above the tobacco. 

Smoke the pipe down to 1/4 of the bowl, but no further.  The bottom of the 
tobacco has served as a filter and has accumulated a lot of excess bitterness.  
When you reach that point, is is best to switch to another pipe and let this 
one rest for a while.  If you do not have time to finish the whole bowl, rubber 
pipe covers are available that fit very well into 1.25" diameter bowls.  Just 
tamp and push one into the top of the bowl.  This will prevent smouldering and
spilling of ash.  For wider pipe bowls, have your pipemaker make a tapered plug
of briar resembling a bottle stopper. 

Magnum size pipes are heavier than normal pipes, so you will need to become
accustomed to the extra weight in your teeth.  The very largest of pipes are
not very practical for carrying around and are probably best enjoyed while
seated.  Of course with enough determination, you can do just about anything,
so if you really want to smoke your biggest pipes away from home, get busy and

When you have become accustomed to smoking your larger size pipes, you will 
begin to appreciate the richness of the smoke and the greater satisfaction of 
the higher smoke volume that they produce.  Each pipefull lasts longer too,
so you can enjoy smoking longer without having to reload or switch to another 

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From: Sheldon Richman <???????????????????????>
Subject: Charlottesville Tobacconists


You continue to do a bang-up job on PD.  I enjoy every issue.  I am moving to
Charlottesville, Va., at the end of March and am wondering if there are good
tobacco shops, cigar/pipe-friendly establishments, and smoking clubs in the
area.  I'd appreciate any tips from my fellow PD'ers.  Thanks.

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From: "Dirk Bahlo" <????????????????????????????????>
Subject: re: German pipe brands

Dear Spencer,

   There are indeed decent brands that come from Germany, but not many, 
that is only two, as far as I know. One of them is *Vauen*. The 
history of the name is quite interesting. At the end of the 19th 
century two remarkable manufacturers of briar pipes located in 
Nuernberg (Ziener & Ellenberger and Gebhard Otto) were left. They 
joined in 1901 and formed the "Vereinigte Pfeifenfabriken Nuernberg" 
(united pipe factories Nuernberg). The abreviated name "V.N." was 
vocalized to "Vauen" (German spelling of the letters) in 1911.
   The second one is *Oldenkott*. They were, along with Vauen, the 
most important manufacturers of briar pipes in the 1950ies, when 
increasing whealth allowed a market for luxury goods again, producing 
mostly pipes in the so called English style. The factory is situated 
in Rees.
   One problem about export and availability are the differences in smoking 
habits. After the publication of the Terry-report in 1964, the 9mm 
coal-filled filters for pipes became so popular in Germany that
 by now almost 90 per cent of the pipes sold in Germany are 9mm's. 
As a result, Vauen (who first patented the coal filter system in 1934) 
produce exclusively 9mm filter pipes by now. They really have 
significant advantages: 50 per cent less tar, 65 per cent less 
nicotine and a dry smoke (the paper tube absorbes the moisture).
   I've been told, that smokers in other European countries and the 
U.S. prefer filterless pipes or the 4-6mm paper rolls. That might be 
a reason, why the *excellent* (as well beautiful as smooth smoking) pipes 
made by Vauen are so little known abroad. If you're interested in 
contacting them, I'll check out the adress. 

With thanks to our benefactor Steve for his magnificent work,

Dirk Bahlo.

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From: ?????????????????????? (Gerry Hilton)
Subject: Pressed Tobacco

Good Evening Steve ...

        I'm looking for some information on the process of pressing tobacco 
and types of casing.
        Last fall, I had a real good crop of tobacco (about 100lbs) and up 
till now I've been spritzing whatever I was going to use with a liquour to 
bring up the moisture content and then running it through a blender. Sounds 
crude but it works well. However, I read an article that stated some of the 
tobacco companies case their product with whiskey, liquours, and/or other 
chemicals and then press the tobacco for about a month. During this 
time,heat is applied and a type of fermentation takes place.
        Well, to make a long story short, I've built a press and heat source 
etc,etc. and now I'm stuck. Has anybody in the group had anything to do with 
this type of process? I need to know how much pressure and how much heat. 
The article I read gave a time frame of about a month but they weren't to 
specific. What types of casing are being used?
        I tried to track down the author of the article but to no avail. I 
don't mind experimenting a little bit but I'd hate like hell to lose a large 
quantity of tobacco.
        If anyone has information on this they can e-mail me direct so it 
doesn't take up valuable space in the Digest. BTW ... Hats off to you for 
the terrific job you do on the digest. It's the best in my book and I really 
appreciate receiving it.

        Thank you ... Gerry Hilton

         Gerry Hilton
         Nova Scotia             ??????????????????????
         Canada                   Ph / Fax 902-682-3194  

[ Ehwa, p. 168, gives a brief description of the casing and pressing
processes. But he's not specific either, except to say that a hydraulic
press is used and that the pressed portion is about 16 inches
square. Apparently, the heat is optional. -S. ]

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From: john turner <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Quality Tobacco Uk - New products

Dear Steve,

Please find attached a new Quality Tobacco UK catalog that contains 88
( yes - eighty eight ) new  tobacco products. This brings the total Mail Order
list up to 228 products in all.

Thanks for refering me to Steve Beaty, he has very Kindly put our catalog
up on the Pipes Digest Web page and it can now be obtained by downloading
it from there as well as directly from me by E_Mail.

I have received a lot of enquiries about Old English tobaccos. One that has 
cropped up a lot is Ogdens Readbreast Flake, so I thought everyone might
like to know what Ogdens had to say about this.

Readbreast Flake was last produced in the early 60's. The nearest comparable
tobaccos are  Ogdens BK Flake ( LOOSE ) which used to be known as Bulwark
and Ogdens Walnut  Flake in 50gm packs. Of these Walnut Flake is the first

Personally I prefer Bulwark which is Black and strong, burns very slowly
and has a wonderful "Old Fashioned" aroma. Both are available from our

Regards to all


John Turner
Quality Tobacco (UK)

[ Please mail John directly for copies of the catalog, or refer to the Web
page. -S. ]

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From: "Jason C. Helmick" <????????????????????>
Subject: Discrimination In Smoke


I recently posted some questions on Nording pipes and wanted to thank the 
readers of PD for thier help!  I usually wouldn't post again so soon, however 
something very disturbing happened this weekend.

I am a buisness owner here in Phoenix, Az.  As usual, I spent the day 
Saterday at work.  My birthday is coming soon, and I had decided to purchase 
a present for myself.  Needless to say, it was a pipe, some tobacco, and 
other assesories that where long overdue.  I asked my wife if she could stop 
at one of my preferred "smoke shops" and purchase the goodies.  She was 
shopping with one of her friends and said that she would be happy to stop 
for me.  (She's the best!)  When she arrive at "Ye Olde Pipe & Tobacco 
Shoppe" on 2115 E.Camelback, Phoenix, Az.  It was moderatly crowded. (as is 
the norm on saterday). She went to the counter, to recieve some help in 
purchasing my new goodies.  This is where it gets disturbing.

Of the several (so called "Gentlemen") working there, they would not serve 
her.  She asked for help several times, however, they seemed more interested 
in helping only the "men" that came into the shop.  She remained in the store 
for 10 minutes and could not recieve any help from the store personel.  This 
is after many "men" had entered the store after her and where immediatly 
served.  My wife, (for good reason) left in anger at the treatment she had 

My wife is not easily angered.  When I returned home, she told me the story 
of how she had been discriminated against.  I normally would have taken her 
word for it, but I couldn't believe my ears, so I called her friend to find 
out what had happened.  To my horror and discust, my wife's story was true, 
except that she had waited 15 minutes before leaving the retched place.

This type of treatment is outrages and unforgivable!  Not only has "Ye Olde 
Pipe & Tobacco" lost a $400 sale, I WILL NEVER SHOP THERE AGAIN!  I will make 
sure that I tell all the people I meet of the terrible treatment that 
"females" recieve there.  As a member of several buisness organizations in 
Arizona, I will tell this story to every single one of them!

It is unfortunate that women should recieve such treatment as a lower-class 
citizen when entering a place.  It is unforgivable that it also happened to 
be a "Smoke shop".  I have had wonderful experiences at the other shops I've 
been to in this country, and I am shocked that it ever happened at all.  My 
wife has gone to a tobaccanist several times for me when I couldn't make it. 
 This is the first time she has ever been treated this way.

A note to "Smoke Shops".  Customer service is your buisness (as is mine).  No 
matter if the customer is a "male", "female", "black", "white", "red", 
"purple", or from another planet. 

I've enjoyed the friends that I have meet at "Smoke Shops" and will continue 
to meet new friends.  Thanks to all the customer oriented shops, I will be 
HAPPY to do buisness with you!

Jason C. Helmick
MindWorks Professional Education Group, Inc.
Internet: ????????????????????
"The Best In Technical Education"

[ Funny you should mention them, Jason; see the following. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (Ed Berggren)
Subject: [PIPES]

Hello, Steve,

  Because I was planning a short 2-day trip to Phoenix this last weekend, I
went back to Digest #207 and re-read Joyce Perry's reviews of local pipe
shops.  As a result, on Saturday I stopped in at Ye Olde Pipe and Tobacco
Shop.  Although it's a relatively small shop, they had a very nice
selection of both pipes and cigars from low to high end.  The salespeople
were all very friendly and knowledgeable and were very pleased when I told
them that I read about them in the Digest.

  While there I picked up a very nice freehand carved by a local pipemaker
named DeJarnett.  It's a solid, rugged-looking piece, but is surprisingly
lightweight for its size.  It was also very reasonably priced.  I'm not the
judge of wood that some of our fellow readers are, but I've seen pipes of
comparable size and quality that sold for 2 to 3 times as much.  Apparently
Mr. DeJarnett has been honing his skills for awhile and has only recently
begun to offer his pipes for sale via this retail outlet.  I had an
opportunity to smoke it last night and it was a delight--and it will only
get better with age and seasoning.

  I also bought a couple ounces of the shop's "House Blend."  It's a
lightly aromatic blend with some Latakia thrown in.  I found it to be quite
pleasant.  It's light in body, but is full of flavor with a hint of
sweetness that isn't overpowering like some aromatics can be.  It stayed
lit with little fuss and burned cool all the way down.

  Anyway, residents of and travelers to Phoenix looking for a good,
friendly tobacco shop could do a lot worse than trying out Ye Olde Pipe and
Tobacco.  I understand they will soon be moving into larger quarters within
the same shopping complex and so I look forward to visiting them again to
see what they do with the extra space.  I don't know if Joyce sent you the
particulars to add this shop to the Resource Guide.  If not here they are
(sorry, I don't know the zip code):

  Ye Olde Pipe & Tobacco Shop
  Town & Country Shopping Center
  2115 E. Camelback Rd.
  Phoenix, AZ
  (602) 955-7740


[ I haven't received anything about them from Joyce.  Given Jason's wife's
experience, it isn't hard to see a possible reason why not. I will list
them in the Guide, but with the following notation: "Caveat: reported
discrimination against women customers."

If anyone in the shop wishes to address this matter, please take it up
directly with Jason and his wife.  I'll drop the caveat at such time as
they ask me to. -S. ]

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From: John Johnston <????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Groups and Home Pages

Hi Steve,

Just wanted to let you know that I enjoy all the info from the digest, give
yourself a pat on the back for all the good work.

Also, I have discovered two new smoking support home pages you might want to
tie links to or at least let everyone else known about. The first is call
Friends of Tobacco (FOT), they are pretty politically oriented towards
notifying members about new laws which affect smokers and ways to state your
concerns to your Senator and such. Their URL is: www.fuji.com/fot. 

If nothing else, their worth taking a look at.

The second one is the South American Pipe Club. Similar to PD but based in
Brasilia, Brazil. A good link to unite us world wide. I have joined SAPC and
became a charter member by being one of the only two North Americans to join. 

Considering the changing time and antagonistic attitude smokers must deal
with today, supporting another group of Pipies couldn't hurt.

Finally, would it be possible to add a section to the directory for pipe
making supplies??. You could start by adding the following two:

American Smoking Pipe Co.
HC 88 Box 223
30 Tall Oaks Terrace
Pocono Lake, Pa. 18347

Stemco-Pimo, Inc
Butternut Lane
P.O. Box 2043
Manchester, Vt 05255

I've have looked far and wide to try and find some kind of supplier to
attempt my hand at making a pipe or two, I spent more time just trying to
find a supplier then it will probable take me to make the pipe.........

Thanks and Good Smoking

	Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I 
	cannot change, the courage to change the things I can,
	and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those that pissed
	me off. Reprint from Attorney General's Office BBS
 Name: 	John Johnston
 E-mail:	???????????????????? (John Johnston)  

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From: ?????????????????? (John Paine)
Subject: pipe and tobacco shops, Pttsburg, PA

Anybody shops for tobacco and pipes in Pittsburg?  I haven't found any in
my edition of the Directory.  tx, JP

[ Definitely check out Bloom's Cigar Camp, 54 South 12th Street, which
should be in your copy of the Guide.  Continental on Murray Ave. is also
listed. -S. ]

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From: Brandon Rottinghaus <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: tobaccos


I am a student at Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana.  Needless
to say there is not an abundance of good tobacco stores around.  I saw a
posting for Gawith Hoggarth British Tobaccos a few Digests ago and I wrote
to them and recieved a catalog.  On the menu (of very fine tobaccos!!) I
saw a tobacco called Latakia.  I think I have some of that blended in with
some other tobacco I bought at my home in Dallas, Texas.  The tobacconist
in Dallas told me it was a very strong blend that was treated in Syria (under
camel dung??)  It sounds crazy, but that's what I remember him telling me.
Steve, please tell me (if you can) a little more about this tobacco because
I like it a lot.  Thanks!
	-Brandon Rottinghaus

[ Latakia is "fumigated" over hardwood fires and then fermented; the camel
dung story is the stuff of which Urban Legends are made. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #209 -- January 29, 1996

I just started selling cigars in my resturant in Baltimore MD. If you know of
any good suppliers for cigars and go-withs. please forward names and address.
If any body has recommendations to the types and brands to start with please


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From: ????????????????
Subject: Cigar Trading

Cigar Trading as now started on 1st February a new Web Page, at 
due to an increasing demand of american customers.

You can quickly reach us also at our european site at

On this new page we have added three more brands.  From Cuba, El Rey del
Mundo and Fonseca and also a good brand from Canary Islands, Casanova,
packed on wood boxes of ten units.

We have now in stock Casanova also in wood boxes of 25 units including each
a cigar cutter.  We just received large quantities of Cohiba Coronas
Especiales and Montecristo N.3 and N.4, in boxes of 5 units.

We remind you the samples of Montecristo, with four  cigars that we can
supply at 1.980 Portuguese
 Escudos, 12,9 USD or 8,5 GBP, plus shipping and handling.

Cigar Trading, Ltd
Pedro Martins
Fax 351-39-35697
P.O. Box 448
3000 Coimbra

[ Per this and your previous letter, it's in the Guide, Pedro! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: Pipe smoking in other countries

I was wondering if anyone has information about the areas of the world 
that have the highest percentage of pipe smokers?  
I was under the impression that at least until the 80's that pipe smoking 
was a very widespread habit in men of both Poland and Ireland.  Are there 
places in the world where pipe smoking is more common in men than is 
cigarette smoking or cigar smoking?  
Also.... does anyone know if Lech Walesa (electrician, prior president of 
Poland) is still a pipe smoker?  I do not recall seeing any photos of him 
while president that showed tobacco use.  I was curious if he is still a 
kindred spirit or if he has quit the habit?


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From: ????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #209 -- January 29, 1996 

Hi Steve!

Do you have any news on where the NY Pipe Club is meeting
given that the restaurant we used to use is closed??

[ Sorry, no news from them in a while. They are having a show near the
Newark Airport on the weekend of March 1. -S. ] 

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From: ?????????????
Subject: Tobacconists

I wish to add two addresses to the resource guide.

1.  Tobacco Hut,  5714 Hickman Rd., Des Moines, IA 50310
     This shop primarily sells cigars.  The selection is good, the prices are
even better.  

2.  Cigarros Antillas Mfg., Calle General Harding, Esq. Calle Concepcion de
Local #3, Old San Juan,  00902
     This shop is located close to where the cruise ships dock.  He only
sells one brand of cigars.  But, he makes these cigars himself (and you can
watch).  So, it is interesting.
If in San Juan, pay him a visit.



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From: Steve Beaty <???????????????>
Subject: Web page blackout


        as you, and many others are aware, the Pipes Web page was blacked
out for two days in response to President Clinton's signing of the
telecommunications decency act.  things are back to normal now.  for those
who think this is a site that is unaffected, i did a keyword search on the
work "breast".  it turned up six matches in the articles over the years.  i
used this word as it was banned on a rather popular online service, until it
was pointed out that it would cause the discussion of breast cancer to cease.

Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                 ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA        http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/

[ For those interested, I found "breast" in Digests 168, 179, 199, 204,
206, and now 210. (The bawdiest is in #168, but it's a quote from "The
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.")  And who knows?  Some future regime
might declare information on tobacco to be "indecent." -S. ]

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Holt's


Just a short note to let you know that Holt' Tobacconists have moved.  I had
the opportunity to be in Philadelphia for the first time, my daughter had a
graduate interview at Hahnemann, and went searching for Holt's.  I was
greatly disappointed when I saw the vacant shop.  So heading back to my hotel
I was lucky enough to walk right by their new establishment.  What a treat!!!
 Not being from a big city I was impressed with size and selection of their
inventory.  I bought myself a half dozen Ashton's with the help of the sales
clerk. (I'm not used to a wide selection) Their smoking lounge was not open
at the time but if I'm ever back I'll make sure to stop by again.

Address:     Holt's Tobacconists
                  1522 Walnut Street
                   Philadelphia, PA 19102

Pete Dion

[ Corrected in the Guide, Pete. Thanks! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????? (Dennis B. Dolle)
Subject: For Pipes Digest


Thanks for processing my subscription to Pipes Digest.  I have two questions
that maybe the readers can answer:

During the mid-1970s I frequented a pipe shop in Lexington, KY.  It was
owned by Bob Vie (a retired Marine, I believe).  I still remember his name
because it is on a line of Savinelli seconds that he sold as "Bob Vie
Matts."  I still have the ones I bought then and they are still some of my
favorites.  Does anyone know if Bob is still in business?

I humidify my cigars with a Credo round humidor.  Credo sells a
"rejuvenator" liquid which is supposed to keep this device working well.
The trouble is this stuff is wildly expensive.  "Experts" tell me that the
rejuvenator fluid is just glycerine and is available at any drugstore.  I
read in the latest issue of Pipes Digest that the liquid is propylene
glycol.  Does anyone know what this stuff really is, and is there an
available substitute that won't cause my humidifier and cigars to melt-down?

Thanks for a great resource for those of us who still enjoy a load of good
tobacco in a nice pipe.

Dennis Dolle    

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From: "John Snyder" <?????????????????????????>
Subject:       pipe

My name is John Snyder.  I am writing you to request any information 
on instructional videos concerning pipe smoking or any magazines 
concerning pipe smoking or any information you can give me.


[ The only one of which I'm aware is "The Ultimate Pipe Video," which is
sold by Rick Hacker. Contact him at PO Box 634, Bevely Hills, CA
90213. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????? (Steve Russo)
Subject: Home Cigar-Making Kit

I smoke both pipes and cigars.  I recently purchased some equipment from a
local cigar maker to roll my own cigars, and have become quite good at it.
I have found it to be both enjoyable and economical. I got to thinking,
"people can purchase home beer-brewing kits, so why doesn't someone come up
with a quality home cigar-making kit, as well?"  Has this been attempted by
anyone before?  If not, how many of your readers might be interested in
purchasing a complete kit with a how-to video for, say, about fifty
dollars, if they were available?  I guess I'm test-marketing my idea here.
In any event, I would really like to know.  Perhaps if there is enough
interest, I will make arrangements to have the kits produced.  Also, if
anyone is interested in this, they can e-mail me.  Thanks.

Steve R. Russo

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From: "James D. Beard" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Item for Pipes Digest -- Bio

Steve and all,

I have been reading current (and past) Pipe Digests for some time
now, and as an official member (PD #206) wish to contribute a
10,000-words-or-less version of who/what/why I am with respect
to pipes and pipe smoking.  To wit:

My initial attempt to take up pipe smoking at about 14 years of age in
rural Oklahoma led me to a single $20 pipe (quite expensive, for that
area in those days, circa 1960) and the drug store tobacco rack:
Rum & Maple, Half & Half, Amphora, Prince Albert (actually, one of 
the better ones), etc.  That, combined with ignorance, led to failure.

Upon entering college (Oklahoma State University, newly renamed from
Oklahoma State Agricultural and Mechanical College), I took another
try at the pipe, testing mostly imported tobaccos, and I also tested
cigars and cigarettes.  The pipe experiments went nowhere fast, with
Balkan Sobranie providing the only moments that remain in memory. 
The "prestige" cigar on campus, Dutch Masters, I found uninteresting,
and Mississippi River Crooks were pleasant but too expensive for me
to consume at the rate I wanted to smoke them.  I wound up with a
Camel cigarette habit, nonfilter of course.

To digress, the Camel habit had a minor side effect a few years 
later,  that has served as a reminder to me that tastes do differ. 
Briefly, I wandered around III Corps with the 11th Armored Cavalry
(then-Col  George S. Patton, Jr., Commanding) for the last 7 months
of my 2  years 2 months 4 days in Vietnam.  One of the benefits to
being in the boonies was that every few weeks a goodie box would
arrive, containing toiletries, other sundries, and carton upon carton
of cigarettes.  All free.  Donated by the manufacturers.  A horde 
would descend upon the box, as guys scrambled to get their favorite 
brand of weeds.  I would simply wait a half hour, until the box was 
sitting there with no one in attendance, and then go over and pick 
up the 2 cartons of Camels that would be all that remained in the 
bottom of the box.  Never once were the Camels gone.  Never once was 
there anything in the box other than the Camels.  But, to return from 
this divergence and back to a slightly earlier time:

After arrival at the Defense Language Institute, Presidio of 
Monterey, CA, a few months after joining the Army, I made another 
try.  A $30 pipe and assorted tinned tobaccos from the tobacconist 
on Alvarado St introduced me to MacBaren's Golden Blend, but did not 
lead to a lasting habit.

After my hitch in the Army was up, I went to San Francisco to study
Japanese, and at an estate auction I went to with my wife-to-be I
acquired a set of "estate" pipes, in the literal sense.  Not knowing
how to sanitize them properly, I simply submerged all mouthpieces
in boiling water for 15 minutes, matched the ones that survived to
their respective bowls, cleaned the bowls and shanks with drugstore
ethanol, and went in search of a good tobacco in San Francisco-area
tobacco shops.  I tried the Dunhill mixtures, virtually everything
else that came in a can from the UK or Europe, and a miscellany of
whatever was available and recommended by tobacconists I ran across. 
MacBaren's proved to be the best of a bad lot, and I smoked Golden
Extra and a few other MacBaren's tinned goods for a time before
abandoning the attempt yet again.  By this time, I had learned a good
bit about pipe smoking, and about tobaccos, but things simply did not

In truth, I had become comfortable with my Camel habit, and when the
added complexity of pipe smoking yielded less pleasure than the
Camel, I could see no point in forcing the issue.  I did later give up
the Camels once, for 2 years.  I gained 5 pounds, my teeth resumed
rotting (I have so much metal in my mouth that you could mine it, all
from pre-smoking days plus the 2 years I was off the weed), my
metabolism was unpleasantly erratic, and I really missed the 
pleasures of the Injun weed.  I resumed my habit, pledging to
never again give up smoking.  This, later, resulted in a minor
complication, when my daughter developed asthma and the doctor's
orders were clear:  No smoking in the house or around Diana anywhere,
as it could trigger (in retrospect, had  triggered) an asthma attack.
Them things ain't fun, and they can be fatal.  Thenceforth, my smoking
was done outside, in my car when not accompanied by daughter, and at
other locations where smoking was accepted.

Then, I was posted to the UK by the Defense Department in mid-1992. 
That Christmas, what did I get from my wife but a pipe, of the filter 
variety.  She had quit smoking a few months after I met her (at my
suggestion, I might add, but that is another story), and considered
it her wifely duty to nag me occasionally to give up the evil weed,
but to no effect whatsoever.  She thought perhaps she could
encourage a shift from cigarette to pipe, which in her estimation
would be an improvement if not an ideal state of affairs.

I reflected on my past failed attempts to take up the pipe, decided
that if ever I were to succeed at it England would be the place where
it would occur, and presented myself at Tobacco World in the Regent
Arcade, pipe in hand, demanding that the piece of rubbish cum filter
be replaced with a good pipe and inquiring what sort of tobaccos were
on offer.

Peter Kelly (may he rest in peace) metaphorically took me in hand. 
He gently interrogated me on my past experiences with the pipe and
circumstances under which I would be smoking, swapped the disdained
piece of wood for a Peterson model 317, and provided an ounce of
Kentucky Nougat tobacco plus the necessary incidentals: inexpensive
IMCO butane pipe lighter, butane, flints, tapered pipe cleaners, and
such.  To this day, I have no idea what tobacco was in the Kentucky
Nougat.  Peter had several house blends he made up in the back room,
and like most tobacconists he viewed his ingredients lists as

About 3 weeks later, I complained to Peter that the pipe was still
smoking hot, even though it was beginning to break in well.  Instead
of the expected lecture on proper puffing, he simply took
three-quarters ounce of Kentucky Nougat, added to it a quarter ounce
of Scotch Cake, and sent me off again.  The heat problem was solved. 
And my next time in, I bought a second Peterson 317, this time a
Rustic, which smoked even better than the first smooth-finish one.
(The collection is now at 14 pipes, and I am thinking about a rack
that would hold 24 to allow room for growth.  But back to sequence.)

 I had started taking my pipe (later pipes) to work, and smoking
while on break, and I found a couple of mentors that were to prove
crucial.  My section chief, Mike Greenall, had taken up pipe smoking
while in the RAF.  His preferred pipe was a Dr. Plumb's Perfect Pipe,
Miniature (i.e. a short pipe with a very heavy bowl that sold for
about 6 or 7 pounds -- about $10 to $12 worth of UK Sterling, not 
weight).  He generally carried it in a shirt or jacket pocket- lit or 
unlit -in polite company, but with the stem tucked in his sock in an 
informal environment.  His tobacco was the original Condor.  His
first  bit of advice was that the quality of pipe was less important
than the quantity.  I should have a minimum of a half-dozen, and a
few more extras would be all to the good. 

My other mentor was one Mr. Black, a former Royal Army man, who
declared himself to have no sense of taste at all but a smoker of
Condor because of the psychic and physical pleasure it offered.  He
taught me much of what I know about how to take care of pipes and

Information gained over a 2.5-year period from these three (Peter
Kelly, Mike Greenall, and Mr. Black) plus what I have gained from my
small but expanding library of pipe and tobacco literature, seasoned
with opinion distilled from personal experience, constitutes my
stock in trade offered on alt.smokers.pipes.

But to return to tobaccos:  Even though the Kentucky Nougat-Scotch
Cake was smokeable, and pleasing in taste, I still was not entirely 
satisfied.  Often, I would smoke a bowl, and find myself craving a 
cigarette.  Not what I really wanted.

I resumed trials of other tobaccos.  I liked a pleasant aroma and
taste, and experimentation soon established that I craved strength in
both nicotine and tar.  And, to complicate matters, my mucous
membranes in the sinuses, throat, and mouth proved sensitive to most
tobaccos that provided aroma/taste, nicotine, and tar, all in

After buying a couple of pounds of tobacco in "an ounce of this, and
try an ounce of that" fashion, I tallied the results and took the list
in to Peter.  With a couple of exceptions, everything that I liked and
that seemed to like me proved to be a flake tobacco made by Gawith,
Hoggarth & Co.  I promptly focused on GHC tobaccos, and tried others
that Peter stocked that I had not yet sampled.  The twist tobaccos
proved to be pleasant, but too strong for me.  (Perhaps in my old
age, when I need to be parsimonious in my pleasures...).  And the mild
to medium varieties also were pleasant, but I reencountered the
earlier problem of finishing a bowl of pipe tobacco and craving a
cigarette.  The shag and other ready-rubbed varieties were ok, but
not as good as the flakes.  To summarize my current position on GHC
tobaccos, bearing in mind that these reflect highly personal 

Rum Flake and Coniston Cut Plug are my staple tobaccos.  I sometimes
start with the Cut Plug earlier in the day and leave the Rum Flake for
evenings, when a slightly heavier effect is desired, but it is far
from unusual for me to take up an unfinished bowl of Rum Flake from
the night before and relight it to start the day.

Glengarry Flake provides a pleasant aroma, at a slight cost in
strength and a slight touch more irritation to the membranes.  I
liked it enough to get a pound for more thorough assessment, but since
the arrival of  Broken Flake No. 7 (see below) have been smoking that

Bob's Flake provides a chocolate flavor and aroma that I find
pleasing.  It is a touch light on strength, so I usually smoke only
one bowl of it and then switch back to something stronger.

Broken Flake No. 7 offers a pleasant change of pace from the 
preceding.  I received a sample of it while in the UK (two bowls
worth) and a pound provided by Bob Lynch arrived just recently.  
I am still working on the detailed assessment.  

Kendal Flake is pleasant enough, but decidedly lacking in strength.

Dark Flake is very good on taste and strength, but slightly abrasive.

I assume that Peter's Scotch Cake was GHC Broken Scotch Cake.  It is
essentially neutral in taste and strength, but burns very cool and
slow.  Get some and mix it with a tobacco you like the taste of but
that burns too fast and hot.

If you like Virginia, get some of the GHC-manufactured Virginia. 
You may find that just as not all that glitters is pyrite, not all
Virginia is  of equal value.  The manufacturing process used does
make a difference. 

A paper read long ago on statistical analysis of failures in
semiconductors convinced me that a sample size under 30 meant that no
meaningful analysis could be done.  As my pipe collection remains
below half that magic number,  I probably should never discuss it at
all.  I have done so, on occasion,  in posts to alt.smokers.pipes,
and will probably do so again, but I will  spare you gentle reader
the gory details on this occasion.

To take up a theme implicit in my chronology above, my transition
from Oklahoma nonsmoking teenager to confirmed pipe smoker has taken
decades and several serious efforts.  This may be ascribed to
ignorance on my part, and of that there was plenty, but a second
critical factor was that tobaccos suitable for me were not readily
available.  The third factor, pipes, was a problem only in so far as
I did not realize how many I needed nor how critical having that
number was.

Had I known in 1961 what I know today, and had Gawith, Hoggarth &
Co. tobaccos been available, I would not have missed the pleasures
and satisfaction of pipe smoking during most of my life.  It is not
my intent or desire to convert others to a theology of pipe smoking,
nor do I think those things that have proved most important to
me will be similarly important to all others.  But I do think there
are many today who like me in the 1960s would take up and enjoy the
pipe if they could, but do not due to ignorance and lack of guidance.
To help them, as Peter, Mike and Mr. Black helped me, I am pleased to
contribute to Pipe Digest, alt.smokers.pipes, and other fora.  And 
given the tobaccos readily available in the U.S., I think they need 
all the help they can get.

Which brings me to a final tag-end:  Some have noticed that I "plug"
Gawith, Hoggarth & Co. tobaccos in posts to alt.smokers.pipes.  And of
course, you may have noticed my views above.  I must confess, my
motives  are not entirely altruistic.  True, I personally find
consider them the  best tobaccos available, but not all may share
that view.  The crux for me is, if the GHC distributor for the U.S.
and Canada Bob Lynch  gives up the business entirely (and he has
already given up advertising,  because it is too expensive) or should
he die (and he is a retiree, with  a limited life-span ahead of him)
and the business not be lucrative  enough for someone else to carry
on, I shall be able to get my preferred  tobaccos only by ordering
them from the UK, and that is expensive!   When I was sampling
everything available from tobacconists in the  Northern Virginia area
(Tobacco Barn, John B. Hayes, Georgetown Tobacco,  John Crouch, plus
telephone inquiries to Fader's and the Smoke Shop in  Annapolis), and
finding nothing but what I considered adulterated rubbish  and
only-marginally-unacceptable import tins, I called Ann Kelly and had 
her send me a couple of pounds Air Mail.  Bottom Line on the
Mastercard  bill:  $80 a pound.


       Incorrigible punster.  Do not incorrige...

[ A fascinating career, Jim! Thanks! -S. ]

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From: Random Boy <?????????????????????????>
Subject: pipe smoking on the campus

this letter is partly in regards to a letter in the last digest 
concerning pipe smoking on college campuses.

i currently attend calvin college in grand rapids michigan.  i have been 
smoking at great intervals a borrowed (from my father) bent whitehall of 
london briar. this has been somewhat inhibited by a campus rule.  our campus 
has a no smoking policy in all the buildings on campus.  (tons of fun in 
the cold michigan winters, let me tell you.)  despite this, the 
percentage of smokers here is quite high.  sadly, most choose cheap 

part of my motive for learning the art of the pipe was the society that 
goes on outside the buildings.  especially on warmer nights, the 
gathering of smokers allows for plans to be made and ideas to be shared.  
we have a comunity here.  though our number may be small, we pipe smokers 
are a happy lot.


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From: ??????????????????? (Clayton)
Subject: Cigar Lists

   =========== A 1 Cigar's Notice ==========

We have received the first shipment of the year from Cuba. 
Most are fillins of higher volume lower priced cigars.

**"The Cubans have changed the Inspection Codes"** 

As of Janruary 1, 1996 the old inspection codes are no more.

We received MonteCristos No. 3 and the tubos #6.
Romeo y Julieta Cazadores and Cedros de Luxe No 1.
Juan Lopez Seleccion No 1 (great)

Some of the reserved cigars are being shipped now.

There are Cuban cigar shortages and shipment delays.

Everyone that deals with Cuba has a limiting Cigar quota.  
These quotas are calculated the first of every year.
On certain cigars the whole year's quota is sold by mid year.
This is the big reason for the end-of-the-year cigar shortages.  

We have some great cigars in the bonded warehouse.
Check the "Available" list.
If you do not receive the "Available" list 
and would like to, please email us.
    * Where there is a will, there is a way. *

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From: ??????????????? (Michael R. Stanley)
Subject: Parker Pipes and aging tobacco

Hello Steve and all pipe smokers;

The other day I was smoking one of my favorite tobaccos(LPI Bombay court)
in one of my favorite pipes and wonder;why don't more people talk about
Parker pipes?I bought this one about six years ago new.Its a large,half
bent smooth finish "Earl".Even at a rather overpriced tobacconist,I beleive
I paid $55.00 or so.If I remember correctly this is the brand that uses the
seconds from Dunhill.The pipe looks like a Dunhill and smokes
wonderfully.It does have a number of sand pits on the surface,but they are
barely noticable and certainly don't have any effect on the smoke.I would
imagine this to be a group six size bowl.I don't remember the last pipe
shop I was in that I noticed Parkers.I have heard of Parker-Hardcastle but
don't know if they are of the same maker or the same(Dunhill seconds)
quality as this Parker.I wonder if anyone else has any thoughts on the
     As far as tobacco aging goes,I've been putting away a tin here and a
tin there for the last four years or so and am really begining to reap the
rewards.The aforementioned tin of Bombay Court is dated 9/5/91.Upon opening
it,the tobacco,particularly the Virginias was covered with sugar
crystals.The smoke was sooooo smooth.The oriental and latakia was a perfect
marriage!The taste is vastly different from the cans of Bombay that I've
opened in the past,and smoked without the benefit of aging.I'm hoping this
is the case for the older tins of Escudo that I have laying around as
well.I usually pick up a tin of something each time I visit a tobacco shop
and put a date on it for my "cellar".My regular smoke usually rotates
between MacBaren Plumcake and Dunhill Royal Yacht.In the house,for those
times I need a nice smelling aromatic,I really am impressed with
Cornell&Diehl #815,a really nice chocolate that smokes to the bottom of the
bowl leaving nothing but a grey-white ash.Try that with Capt Black.Of
course Capt does have a non smoker pleasing aroma.
Well,keep up the good work and I think if circulation gets much higher,your
sign-off will stand a good chance of coming true(Pipe smokers may indeed
rule the world!).
               Humbly Submitted
               Mike Stanley:-?

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996
  2. Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #209 -- January 29, 1996
  3. Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #209 -- January 29, 1996
  4. Subject: A PD submission
  5. Subject: Actors and Pipe Smoking
  6. Subject: Irish tobacco by Mullingars
  7. Subject: Submission for PD: Try the Drugstore Brands!!!
  8. Subject: Kabik Pipes
  9. Subject: (1) Information re.: KABIK ; (2) DRUG STORE PIPES
  10. Subject: Pipe Question
  11. Subject: PD Submission
  12. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #209 -- January 29, 1996
  13. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #209 -- January 29, 1996
  14. Subject: SG report
  15. Subject: Surgeons General's report online
  16. Subject: Info Request
  17. Subject: Calabash prices
  18. Subject: catalan pipe craftmanship
  19. Subject: pipe digest
  20. Subject: Special Offer for Pipes Digest readers
  21. Subject: Digest submission - Smoking Large Pipes
  22. Subject: Charlottesville Tobacconists
  23. Subject: re: German pipe brands
  24. Subject: Pressed Tobacco
  25. Subject: Quality Tobacco Uk - New products
  26. Subject: Discrimination In Smoke
  27. Subject: [PIPES]
  28. Subject: Pipe Groups and Home Pages
  29. Subject: pipe and tobacco shops, Pttsburg, PA
  30. Subject: tobaccos
  31. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #209 -- January 29, 1996
  32. Subject: Cigar Trading
  33. Subject: Pipe smoking in other countries
  34. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #209 -- January 29, 1996
  35. Subject: Tobacconists
  36. Subject: Web page blackout
  37. Subject: Holt's
  38. Subject: For Pipes Digest
  39. Subject: pipe
  40. Subject: Home Cigar-Making Kit
  41. Subject: Item for Pipes Digest -- Bio
  42. Subject: pipe smoking on the campus
  43. Subject: Cigar Lists
  44. Subject: Parker Pipes and aging tobacco
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