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Subject: Pipes Digest #211 -- February 125, 1996

		Pipes Digest #211 -- February 125, 1996
	     Copyright (C) 1996 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 1971

Welcome to new members:

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[ADMIN] Kam Kashani (????????????), Robert Pluta
(??????????????????????) and Stuart Altschuler (?????????????) all
responded to my question re Sergio Iannini's message (subject:
"Special Offer for Pipes Digest readers") in the last issue.  Well,
this is a case in which Yr. Obdt. Moderator should have read his own
policy!  Which says, pretty plainly, that advertising is welcome if
it's brief, not repeated too much, and on topic for the group (e.g.,
for pipes, cigars, tobacco, and related stuff.)  But off-topic ads
(e.g., for phone services) are another matter, and always have been;
the article simply shouldn't have gotten in.  My apologies to anyone
whose hackles were raised.

And now, let us take the phone off the hook, light up, and smooth our
hackles a bit...  and look in this issue for some upcoming pipe shows,
including one by the New Yok Pipe Club this weekend!

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	    Help Stop Prohibition  --  Keep Tobacco Legal

		      Call  --  Write  --  Vote

			Then, smoke in peace.

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From: Sam Alfano <??????????????>
Subject: J&S Humidors new address

Dear Steve,

J&S Humidors, Inc. has a new e-mail address.  We can now be contacted at:

We also have a new Web site with cool cigar graphics at

Keep up the great work on the Digest!

Kind regards,
Sam Alfano
J&S Humidors, Inc.

J&S Humidors, Inc.
82362 Five Lakes Road
Bush, Louisiana  70431
tel. (504)-863-3364
fax. (504)-863-7715
E-mail to Sam Alfano at: ??????????????
See our Web site at http://www.alfano.com/js

[ Thanks for the update, Sam!  This _is_ on-topic. ;-) -S. ]

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From: "schier" <???????????????????>
Subject:       Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996

Fine Pipes Have Arrived in Moscow!

After three and a half years living here in
Moscow and doing my pipe shopping just about
anywhere else, collector's pipes such as
Ser Jacopo, Mastro de Paja and Stanwell have
arrived, along with Dunhill. I hope to join
the fray soon by becoming the agent for Courrieu;
they invited me to meet with them when I visit
France again in April.

The only question is, how badly did I get ripped
off by buying a Ser Jacopo Delecta with silver
band and spigot for 360$ (1,690,000 rubles,
for anyone who follows Russia)? What is the going
price for such a pipe in the US or Europe?

Also, this pipe, the 50th in my collection, marked
my first purchase of a filter pipe. I know that
in my native New York, real men don't smoke filter pipes,
but the filter really makes a difference in 
controlling wetness. I will probably add a few
more filter pipes to my collection this year.
Any comments on filter pipes?

Yitzchak Schier, Moscow.

[ Was the Ser Jacopo new or "estate", Yitzchak?  I've had many others
praise the European 9mm filter system. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????? (Joachim Posegga)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996

 ... just a few comments on Dirk Bahlo's message:
 > From: "Dirk Bahlo" <????????????????????????????????>
 > Subject: re: German pipe brands
 >    There are indeed decent brands that come from Germany, but not many, 
 > that is only two, as far as I know. One of them is *Vauen*. The 

There are also some (approx. 5-10) excellent German pipe makers who
make a few hand-made pipes per year; names that cross my mind are:
Ingo Garbe (who actually lives in Denmark these days), Klaus
Billerbeck (Hamburg), Juls (Julian Schaefer?), Bertram Safferling,
etc). Futhermore, there is a company called DB Design (?) located in
Berlin; they produce machine-made pipes I would consider to be in the
same category as Vauen. And there is Bentley, who either have their
design made in Switzerland and produce in Germany, or vice versa (I
keep confusing this).

I am personally not so enthusiastic about Vauen pipes; I own two of
them found bothsomewhat dissappointing. As to my experience, you get
better value for money from Stanwell or Savinelli. But this is of
course a matter of personal taste. It might be related to the fact
that I belong to the minority of 10% in Germany who do not like
filters...  Btw, Vauen will also deliver their pipes without a
filter-hole in the shank (upon request).

 >    The second one is *Oldenkott*. 

As far as I know, Oldenkott went bankrupt a couple of years ago. They
became known outside Germany for producing the famous Porsche
pipe. Now and then you can still find some of their pipes in the

Finally, and not related to the above: if you should happen to be in
Milan, Italy: stand in front of the cathedral, look for a shopping
arcade to the left (after visiting the cathedral of course :-)). Near
its end on the right hand side, there is a shop with a spectacular
selection of Castello pipes (probably more than 200 pieces). Prices
are _very_ interesting due to the "cheap" Italian Lira (a "Collection
Fiamata" was about US-$ 300.00 a few weeks ago).  A real "must".  Some
knowledge of Italian is, however, useful.


[ Thanks, Joachim!  If anyone can get the name of the shop in Milan,
I'll put it in the Guide. -S. ]

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From: Patrick Michael Devine <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996

A quick correction.  In the last digest, someone commented about 
Gerald MCRainey and Jameson Parker of the TV show "Simon & Simon".  It 
was thought that Gerald McRainey was much more comfortable with them than 
Jameson Parker.  I have a newsletter from Amphora that I picked up at a 
pipe show in Northern Virginia a few years back that has an article from 
Richard Hacker where he had interviewed Jameson Parker who IS a pipe 
smoker. So perhaps his seeming discomfort was just really good acting. . .

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From: Timothy Woods <??????????????????>
Subject: Lee Van Cleef's pipe

Several pipees have wondered whether the actor Lee Van Cleef is (was?) a 
"real life" pipe smoker, and what that pipe was he smoked in "For a Few 
Dollars More".  In The Ultimate Pipe Book, Hacker identifies Van Cleef 
as a notable pipee, and comments "actor Lee Van Cleef puffed on a 
well-used meerschaum as he played a bounty hunter opposite Clint 
Eastwood ..." (p. 214).

For what it's worth,
Timothy Woods

Timothy Woods
Tel. (613) 567-3337
Fax (613) 567-2037

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From: ??????????????????? (Dan Fitzgerald)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996

            Jeff "Charlie" Jewell, Wrote about acters smoking pipes in the
movies. I also notice acters when they are smoking pipes my alltime favorite
movie "THE WINDS OF WAR" features Peter Graves smoking a pipe, and another
acter his name escapes me right now. But those scenes sparked my interest in
smoking a pipe.

      Just thought I'd put my 2 cents in
                   Dan Fitzgerald                          

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From: "S. M. S." <???????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996

Dear readers of Pipe Digest:

I am a relatively new pipe smoker and have a short question.  I recently
bought a tin of an English style tobacco from a well known and expensive
tobacco distributor known better for their cigars, which shall remain
nameless as I enjoy their cigars.  However, when I opened the tin, the smell
was, well, very unpleasant.  Now I love the smell of a tobacco shop, and
have never disliked any pipe tobacco I've encountered until now.  Is it
possible I received a bad tin, or is it because the mixture is "English" and
I'm used to more "Danish" blends of Virginia, Burley and Cavendish tobaccos?
The mixture in question is composed of red Virginia, Oriental tobaccos and


[ Latakia smells fairly strong... can you describe the way in which it
was unpleasant? -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996

Subject: Dunhill's Fellowship of the White Spot.

Dear Steve,

I have been off-line for a while and found some old e-mails asking for
invitations to join Dunhill's Fellowship of the White Spot. I regret that it
took me so long to respond the their requests. Since my computer problems are
fixed and I am back on line I will be happy to send any invitations to those
that request them. If any members would like one mailed to them they may
e-mail me their postal address. My e-mail address is ??????????????????? If
any members have requested this in the past and found me unresponsive I
appologize. Any postal addresses received will be kept in strict confidence.
Nobody hates unsolicited mail more than me.

Peter Ryan
Smith's of Plymouth

[ Thanks for the update, Peter! -S. ]

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From: John Johnston <????????????????????>
Subject: Reply to Jason Helmick Letter

Hi Steve,

As always I enjoyed the PD this morning over a good cup of coffee and my
morning wake pipe. While reading Jason Helmick's letter I was reminded of
the attitude of our local tobacco shop. Its the Pipe and Pouch Tobacco Shop
located in Fairbanks, Alaska. The proprietory, who's name is Dave, also
tends to be rather rude. In fact his rudness has me ordering my pipe and
tobac by mail rather than endure his attitude. I have been to his shop on
six different occasions and on five of them he has treated me as if I was
more of an inconvience, rather than a paying customer. One the sixth he
smiled, well actual this occured during the third visit or I would'nt have
tried his place a fifth and sixth time. At first I assumed he was just
having a bad day. So either all his days are bad or he's just does'nt care
about his clientel.

This has cost him quit a bit in the last couple of years. I actual live in
North Pole, Ak. approximately 15 miles from Fairbanks, and although he is
the only tobac shop for 350 miles, I'll never use him again. I have bought
about 8 new pipes during the last 24 months, this includes Peterson,
Bonfiglioli, and West's, not cheap pipes and various amounts of different
tobaccos for my smoking enjoyment. So to all who visit Fairbanks, bring your
own tobacco. The service is'nt worth it.

Now for a good note, if your traveling through Anchorage on your way up
north, stop by and vist the Tobacco Cache on Northern Lights Blvd. They have
always helped me with any questions and will blend any mix you like. I don't
have their address at the moment, but will get it and send to you for
inclusion in the digest. And if their are any fellow pipe smokers in living
in the bush, the TC will does mail orders.

Thanks, John 

	Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things I 
	cannot change, the courage to change the things I can,
	and the wisdom to ignore those that piss me off.
 Name: 	John Johnston
 E-mail:	???????????????????? (John Johnston)  

[ One of these days, we'll get up that way, John.  Was hoping to do so
this summer, but other things have intervened. Thanks! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Merchandise Offering for Pipes Digest Readers

Steve, I have a rather interesting cigar-related fashion item that might be
of interest to some of your readers.  It's a sweatshirt that artistically
're-creates' a newspaper clipping of the rather wonderful things Bill Clinton
said about cigars and pipes last summer during the Washington Tobacco
Industry Inquest.  I'd be delighted to send you a sample sweatshirt, with my
compliments, to see if you think that there might be a palatable way of
offering it to readers (I seem to remember some specific restrictions
regarding commerciality when I first signed on to the newsletter).

By way of background, I have a rather popular cigar-of-the-month club (Black
Tie Connoisseurs 'Cigar Celebration'; http://www.nafta.net/cigars/blacktie)-
we sell the sweatshirt, along with a limited number of other items, for
$29.95 + S/H/Tax in IL.

[ Personal note deleted. -S. ]

Mike Twaddell

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From: Francesco <????????????????>
Subject: Parker Pipe

Dear Steve,

I tryed all over the net, but you seem to be the best to help me with a 
little bad problem, that I can't solve in Italy.

I broken a mouthpiece of a Parker Pipe, new(!), that I received as 
present. :-((

Now I need as soon as possible an address in Europe for the Parker to 
send the defective mouthpiece to have a good one back.

I don't like that who gave me the gift realised that a very expensiv pipe 
was defective, you know... So I need to find Parker very soon to hide 
this tragedy!!!

If you can't help me I'll aprreciate any suggestions.

Thanks a lot and sorry for annoying you.

Francesco De Luca

[ Parker isn't in the Guide.  Can anyone help Francesco?  Also see the
following; if true, it might be worthwhile to contact Dunhill. -S. ]

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From: ??????????? (Fred&Carolyn)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996

Hello, Steve, I really enjoy the digest. Up to now, I have restrained from
posting any comments, but in Mike Stanley's article, Parker pipes are
mentioned. It just so happens, that last Saturday, I was browsing the local
Huntsville pipe shop, The Humidor, and came across a Parker Hardcastle. I,
too, have the understanding that Parker Hardcastles are produced by Dunhill.
Nevertheless, this pipe has quickly turned into the favorite in my
collection of Petersons, GBDs, and varied expensive Italian handmades. It's
light, smokes cool, and has the traditional look of and English pipe which I
like. Though, I paid $65.00 for this pipe, I feel it was well worth it. Keep
up the great work and smoke in peace.

Fred Scarborough 

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Important Information

Hi all you cigar aficianados!

I have very important news for all of you in the New Jersey/New York area, if
you are interested in smokers' nights.

Here is the ad that I found in the newspaper:

Cigar Evening Smoke-In Gala Planned for area Aficianados

Carmen J. Maggio, president of Rowe-Manse Emporium, announced plans today for
the first in a series of Smoker's Evenings in New Jersey.  A "Magnificent
Evening for Cigar Aficianados" will be held on March 8, 1996 at Mayfair Farms
in West Orange, New Jersey.

The magnificent evening will include a wonderful 5 course Gourmet Dinner,
complete with cocktail hour, international hors 'oeurvres, fine wines and
brandies along with fine hand-made cigars to compliment each course.  The
evening also includes an expert cigar roller, a guest speaker, appearances by
stage and screen personalities and numerous door prizes ranging from weekends
for two at Trump Plaza to cigar humidors.

Carmen J. Maggio indicates that there will be additional Cigar Dinners held
throughout the year.  Rowe-Manse also has a Cigar Club which cigar smokers
may join to take advantage of specials, events, etc. etc.

Mr. Maggio is currently searching for a 1920's railroad car, which he plans
to use as a "smoking car" to provide a comfortable setting for his
cigar-smoking customers to relax and enjoy a cappuccino with their cigars
while wives shop.  The railroad car will be placed at the rear of the store.
{{{Just a note, guys.  I didn't write this.  So I didn't put in the part
about smoking while wives shop.  I consider myself a "womanist,"  and I
understand that many of the smokers on this list are woman.  Well, on with
the advertisement}}}

Those interested in signing aboard for a truly magnificent evening are
encouraged to call  1-800-633-3100

IF you guys would like to go, feel free, but I already have prior



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From: ??????????????? (John Alan "Sir Twist" Belli)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996

Dear Steve,

I have been with PD since PD #198, but this is my first

In PD #210, Steve Russo (??????????????????????????) mentions
something about roll-you-own cigars. I, for one, would be
interested in more information, as I am both a pipe and cigar
smoker (I started on the pipe, though). (Note that this is cc'd
to him.)

This triggered a thought: where do I get the raw materials? Since
my family maintains a large garden, I am sure I can take a
corner, or even expand the present one, to produce tobacco.

So, the question is, does anyone know about growing tobacco? What
should I treat the soil with? Does tobacco prefer acid/alkaline
conditions? Will I be able to get a crop in the northeast (NE PA,
almost NYS)? Most importantly, where do I get seed/shoots to
start the plants?

I would like to thank anyone in advance for any information.

John Belli
aka Sir Twist

PS to SM: Keep up the great work on the Digest! I look forward to
it every other week.
Sir Twist is John Alan Belli                     ???????????????
PGP Key ID 0xFD7399CD                http://www.epix.net/~bbelli
62906E6A F1F26625 0830F0F5 4E0CB80C
By finger, and on website and keyservers.         U/~    (?????#
      Show respect for age. Drink good scotch for a change.

[ See below on the roll-your-own endeavor, John!  Re growing your own,
I've collected a few sources of seed in the Guide.

On a related topic, Gerry Hilton (??????????????????????), having
grown quite a bit of Nova Scotian leaf, asked about pressing his own
tobacco in the last issue of the Digest. By conicidence, the latest
issue of "Pipe Friendly" has a nice article from Steve Johnson
(????????????????) on a home-built pressing process.  Contact Joel
Farr (??????????????????) about "Pipe Friendly." -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????? (Steve Russo)
Subject: Home Cigar-Making Kit (up date)

Hi Steve,

I have an unfortunate up date to my attempt at producing a Home
Cigar-Making Kit.  Due to the prohibitive massive government red tape (ATF)
involved in getting a license to sell tobacco products and leafs, the
reality of producing this kit is too difficult.  However, there is a cigar
maker in Sacramento, CA who makes the best handmade cigars anywhere in the
world.  Casillas Cigars are every bit as good in quality as A. Fuente,
Padron, Macanudo, ect. for about half the price.  Each cigar consists of :
Wrapper - Connecticut Natural, Ecuador Natural, Mexican, and Maduro.   Long
Filler - Ecuador, Dominican Republic, Honduras, Nicaragua.
Binders- Mexican, Ecuador.
Wrapper + Filler + Binder =  5 Country Blend.   Compare that to any
commercially available cigar!

1221 16Th Street
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 442-4554

Enjoy! and tell them Steve Russo sent you. Thanks

Steve R. Russo

[ Thanks, Steve!  Since cigar rollers typically take years to learn
their craft, I'm sure that this is even a better find than a
roll-your-own kit. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: Pipe situation in France

I need some information from others who are familiar with the pipe
situation in France.  I will be in France in June of this year, with most
of the time spent in the South of France in Provence.

Anybody had any experience on shops, local carvers, museums, etc.

Any information or leads would be appreciated.  I may be contacted through
E-Mail: ???????????????????

Best to all!

John Trestrail
Grand Rapids, Michigan

[ We have a few shops in the Guide that are in France, but most are in
Paris.  Two are in Cogolin, but I don't know French geography well
enough to say whether that would help. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Montecristo sampler

New Montecristo sampler ref 3/4

We have added to our range of cigars another Montecristo sampler.

This one contains :

3 units Montecristo # 3 - size 5 1/2" x 44
3 units Montecristo # 4 - size 5" x 42

The sampler is packed on two small card boxes one for # 3 cigars and another
for the # 4

Price is 5250 PTE (Portuguese escudos) / 22,4 GBP / 34,5 USD.

S & H and handling for Europe or Overseas - 600 PTE / 2, 13 GBP/4 USD

Cigar Trading, Ltd
Fax 351-39-35697
P.O.Box 448

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From: Phil Thames <???????????????????>
Subject: Cigar/Pipe Group

I would like to subscribe to Pipes Digest.  Could you add me?
Also, quick question, what kind of cigar is Rush Limbaugh always
refering to?

Thanks, Phil Thames

[ From Bob Curtis' estimable Cigar FAQ: "On a recent radio broadcast,
Rush Limbaugh mentioned the following as his "regular"
smokes... Arturo Fuente (any Fuentes!), Partagas (particularly the
#10), Davidoff Double-R, and La Gloria Cubanas."  Some of
Mr. Limbaugh's other favorites are listed on "The -Never Merely a-
Cigar Page," http://astro.ocis.temple.edu/~joejohn/cigar.html. -S.]

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From: Harold Lambing <?????????????????????>
Subject: pipe bio

Hi everybody I'm new to this internet stuff so please bear with me. I am 32
yrs old and have a small collection of pipes mostly ascorti and cao
meerschaum pipes. I have enjoyed smoking my pipes since high school. I like
to collect matched sets of briar & meerschaum pipes, so if anyone knows
where I may find some please let me know, I also would like to find a
supplier of Ascorti pipes since the tinder box stores in my area seem to be
closing shop.

I would also like to reply to Tony Spiegel question about differences
between drug store pipes and the more expensive pipes. I to started out with
drug store pipes then my granfather bought me my first Ascorti pipe. I think
you will find that quality pipes will burn cooler and therefor smoke better.
Some cheaper pipes also use wood fillers to make the pipe look better but
this also causes hot spots.  There are also different grades of briars just
as ther are different grades of wood used in building fine furniture.If you
can afford the better pipes I think you will enjoy relaxing with them more.

I would also like to thank Douglas Cope for his helpful hints on viewing the
pipe digest and the saving of usefull info to files.

By the way I realy enjoy the pipe digest.  Keep up the good work

St. Louis, MO

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From: ???????????????????????? (Jon Erik Penvose)
Subject: A few thoughts regarding Pipes Digest #210...


A few various and sundry items hopefully of general interest.  First,
I was impressed by Mark Peterson's rather complete tutorial relating
to the use of oversized pipes.  I personally dislike very large pipes,
as they make my jawbone hurt from the weight.  However, his
suggestions on smoking technique would certainly help those who are
not gaining full enjoyment from their pipe smoking experience.  I am
not clear though, on what Mr. Peterson meant by inhaling smoke.  Does
this mean inhaling into the lungs?  Whenever I inhale pipe smoke into
my lungs, it is by accident and it is not at all pleasant.  I have
been under the impression that almost no one inhales pipe smoke into
the lungs.  I wonder, is the practice more prevalant than I thought it

Second, regarding the question of commercial advertising in the
Digest.  Please cast my vote against advertising that is not related
to the subject of this publication.  I realize everyone has to make a
living, but this is not the place for it.

The real driving force that caused me to write this time regards the
submission by Jason C. Helmick regarding the unfortunate experience
suffered by his wife and her friend.  Here is a situation where a
paying customer is treated like dirt by a salesperson for no better
reason than the fact that he can not put his predjuces aside long
enough to conduct a business transaction.  When I read Mr. Helmick's
letter, I was impacted; I felt an emotional response (this is unusual
for me, I normally have a very detached view of things).  As I
reflected upon it, I found that I felt ashamed and embarrassed by the
clerk's actions to the ladies.  You see, I believe that pipe smokers
are a distinct class of people.  I assert that, more often than not,
pipe smokers are people who have resolved certain basic problems
dealing with life.  A pipe smoker is someone who is and should be the
voice of reason, calm, and balance.  I found that the feeling of
embarassment I felt was the fact that these salesclerks and I are
supposed to be part of the same niche in society.  Their inexcuseable
actions reflect not only on myself, but all pipe smokers as a whole.
And that, my good friends, is a terrible shame.

I myself was once made to feel unwelcome by the owner of a smokeshop.
Last year, I learned that a Tinder Box location was opening in nearby
Harrisburg, PA.  I had frequented a Tinder Box when I lived for a time
in Tacoma, WA, and I was satisfied with my dealings there.  I had a
Friday off, so I braved the crushing Friday afternoon city traffic to
pay a visit.  I soon learned that this Tinder Box was tailored for the
suit, tie, and cufflinks crowd; which does not include me very often.
Although the owner was not openly rude, he made it crystal clear that
I was not a welcome guest in his store.  What a dissapointment.

Well, I suppose I've lectured long enough.  Keep up the good work,
Steve.  It does not go unnoticed.


Jon Erik Penvose (???????????????????????)

[ Thanks, Jon!  I also was wondering what readers thought about Mark
Peterson's suggestion on inhaling smoke.  I've known people who did,
but personally I agree with you. -S. ]

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From: Mark Surloff <????????????????????>
Subject: Need help...

I'm looking for the manufacturer of a pipe tobacco called: "London Dock"
Would you happen to know this information?
Mark Surloff

[ JR Cigar sells it, but I don't know who actually makes it. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????? (Antoinette Ponzo)
Subject: Re:  A little about me

Hi Steve,

My name is Jude Rennolds.  This e-mail is my girlfriends.  I am blind, 
have a seeing eye dog and love pipes and pipe smoking.  Toni and I and 
recently discovered the Net.  This is facisinating for me.  She has 
been reading the different things that we are coming across.  

I have been a pipe for about 20 years.  I have a few pipes that I love.
My favorits being, Cessini 8-dot (I think that how that is spelled), 
Lovat, I have a Dunhill from the '30's an number 2 i would say, and a 
Savanelli, Punto 'Oro.  I have others, but these I enjoy most of the 
time.  Some of my favorite tobaccos are Dunhill Black Aromatic, 
Straight Virginia, house Blend from Gus's Smoke shop, Sherman Oaks, 
CA., Ancient Mariner, Boswains Mate, also from Gus's, Honey Cavendish, 
from the Tinder Box, Santa Monica and Epicurian also from the Tinder 
Box.  I have smoked for many years and I like variety, but for the 
present the Honey Cavendish is my favorite.  I am really enjoying 
finding these resources.  It has taken many years to find out that it 
takes skill to smoke a pipe.  

I will relate a story that happened a fews years back.  My pipe smoking 
brother and I were at Gus's in the Valley, I bought a Comoy Bulldog, He 
a #2 Dunhill Billiard (both estate pipes).  AT the time my favorite 
tabacco was Punchbowl, from a company in Ireland, and my friend smoked 
Craven mixture, same company.  We bought our treasures, could hardly 
wait to light up, ran to the car, and reclined the seats, and I have a 
little keychain screwdriver for opening tins, with our ears to our tins 
we opened the tins to hear the hissing of the air escaping the tins.  
Loaded our bowls, lit our pipes and smoked ourselves into a coma.  We 
could not wait to drive home.  Coming out of the coma we realized that 
the car was full of smoke, visability zero, opened the windows, smoke 
billowed out, and passerbys were laughing.  What a heavenly memory.

Thanks and looking forward to being a subscriber!


[ Didn't I see this event depicted in a Cheech y Chong movie? ;-)
Welcome! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????????? (jkurdsju)
Subject: Pipe Show


Not a PD submission but simply a question - in #210 you mention a pipe show 
near Newark airport the weekend of 3/1.  Who is running the show and do you 
have anymore information?  I'd appreciate it if you could forward anything you 
have to me (time, place, cost, contact person, etc.).


Jake Kurdsjuk

[ I think it's worth a word, Jake!  See below. -S. ]

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From: Steve Masticola (????????????????????????)
Subject: New York Pipe Club 4th Annual Pipe Convention

[ Reprinted from orange flye in Summer-Autumn 1995 TPSE. Expired dates
and prices omitted. -S. ]

Pipesmokers, traders, collectors, retailers, pipemakers: You are
cordially invited to a most exciting event. Take a table or just

Welcome reception: Friday, March 1, 1996 - 7:00 PM. Cash bar.

Show date: Saturday, March 2, 1996 - 10:00 AM to 7:00 PM.

Location: Ramada Hotel Newark International Airport, 1-800-223-8285 or

Tables: Retailers $85.00, collectors $65.00, pipemaker $55.00.

Checks only payable to : Richard Esserman, 238 Aycrigg Ave., Unit D,
Passaic, NJ 07055.

Convention directors: Sam Barnett, Rich Essermann.

Master of ceremonies: Sailorman Jack.

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Ohio Pipe Collectors 1996 Swap/Sell Show

Steve, I'm really pleased to announce the final details of the 1996 Ohio
Pipe Collectors swap/sell pipe show (pipes only; no cigars) on Saturday,
Sept. 14, 1996 at the Holiday Inn on Lane Ave. in Columbus.  This is the
same location as last year, but we have increased the space by half again,
with room for 65 dealer tables.  Again, there will be no admission charge
for the public. Dealer tables are $25 until June 1, $30 thereafter, first
come first served.  As Neil Murray recorded so well, in words and pictures,
in his Agricultural and Mechanical Gazette, last year's show was a huge
success.  We're getting a much earlier start this year and are expecting a
much bigger and better show.
The Holiday Inn (614-294-4848) is offering a special rate of $69 for show
attendees for single, double, triple and quadruple rooms, so for all who
plan to come, get your reservation in early and troll for others to share a
room with you.
Last year was my first attempt at producing a show, and I was extremely
nervous, but right now I'm confident of a huge success. If any of your
subscribers would like a show flyer (or more than one if you can distribute
them), please send me your mailing address.  Also, if anyone would like to
rent one or more tables, contact me for a participation sheet, which also
contains a line for donations to our raffle--the thing that keeps us in the
black, as the rest of our money goes for show expenses and producing our
quarterly newsletter (or magazine, as my wife said after the last one).  If
anyone would like to donate something for the raffle in exchange for all
the fulsome praise we can heap upon you and publicity we can give you,
please write for a sheet.
Having gone over 100 members last year, we are shooting for 200 this year
(dues only $12 per year, pro-rated for new members). As always, anyone
interested in joining the OPC should contact me for a complimentary
newsletter.  Our mailing address is Ohio Pipe Collectors, P.O. Box 9642,
Columbus OH 43209.  Thanks for your help.

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

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From: Joe Murphy <?????????????????>
Subject: Italian pipe makers

Hi Steve,

Wonder if you can help me out on this one.  My brother in law is going to 
Italy for 2 weeks and I'd like him to pick me up a pipe (or a couple 
depending on price).  I was wondering if you knew of or had a reference 
of Italian pipe makers listed by town?  The highgrade briar Italian pipe 
makers must sell direct, don't they?  Or is it better to go to a 
smoke/pipe shop to buy?  Any idea of quality pipe shops in Italy?  How 
do the prices compare, I am assuming that they will be better buying over 
there than trying to purchase here.  

I know this is a lot to ask but you are the guru.......

Joe Murphy

[ Well, of course there's Alberto Bonfiglioli in Bologna, whose Web
page is http://www.italia.com/bonfiglioli/welcome.htm. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????
Subject: Could you put this into the newsletter?

I am looking for a nice inexpensive pipe.  I would love any advice on which
to choose, or, if you are selling, I would like to look into purchasing one
from you.  My address is ??????????????   (The "D" is proceeded by two zeros,
for the confused)  Thank you very much!

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From: Terrance Tomkow <????????????????????>
Subject: Indian Cigars

The Indian TobacCo Company cordially invites you to tour the Indian 
TobacCo Home page at:

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From: "George A. Gleason" <???????????>
Subject: militias in ASP...?


Have you seen the recent postings by [deleted. -S.] and a few
others...?  Louis went ranting that if the feds ever came to take away
his tobacco or his automatic weapons he'd shoot them the way Gordon
Liddy recommended (i.e.  to be sure to kill them quickly), and then
someone else who has (of all things!) a service record with the USMC
on his sig said something vaguely approving about that, and now we
have [deleted. -S.] talking about something that sounds suspiciously
related.  Are these guys just doing the macho mode or is there
something we should be "concerned about"...?

Not to go calling for censorship of their little rants, but frankly it bugs
me, and it's not like I'm being squeamish or anything.  What's your opinion
of all this...?  

-george   ???????????

[ Personal opinion: Those who wave guns as a first response deserve no
more respect than those who wave prohibitions.  Neither is mature or

And please see below for one man's far better response to a town with
prohibitionistic tendencies! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????? (Matt Steele)
Subject: Boulder smoking ban & Laudisio's Italian Restaurant

[ Picked up from alt.smokes.cigars, with permission of the author. -S. ]

There is a thread within ASC about Boulder's anti-smoking law. 

Essentially, Boulder residents voted to ban all smoking in public
places (yes, to Boulder-ites, your restaurant is a public place). In
order to permit smoking, the room must be sealed from any non-smoking
areas (yeah - sealed). You must have a seperate ventilation system

One restaurant was going to have a cigar dinner, but caved in because
they feared lingering smells the following day. One Hotel had a nice
smoking area, but banned cigars now because the cigarrette smokers
complained about the smell! ( Hotel Boulderado - call and let them
hear from you if you're inclined (303) 442-4344 )

Now realize, this town thinks of itself as "too hip". There are more
"under 50-year olds" living off trust funds per-capita than anywhere
else in the USA. Heard the term: idle-rich? They're here and deciding
how we should live. (hey, nothing against being rich - I trying also)
The kicker is that this town supports and promotes the notions of
"freedom" and "self-expression" like Atlanta promotes the Olympics! 

There is one true maverick in this town and he's a real character.
Antonio Laudisio. His restaurant (one of the finest and the BEST wine
list in town) has been non-smoking for 8 years prior to the smoking
ban. The "ban" completely goes against his grain and he is putting his
money behind his principals. 

Antonio cleared out a stockroom, painted the walls and ceiling, added
persian carpet and fine antiques, installed a mother of a ventilation
system, installed a humidor, added lots of Wine Spectator and CA mags,
and great books on Cuba and cigars. The lighting is subtle and the
service is terrific. His entire staff is attentive to the cigar crowd
and very polite.

Now, Laudisio's Italian Restaurant is THE place in this area for cigar
smokers!  There has never been any pressure to spend money and
sometimes we spend alot, sometimes very little. We have a secluded
smoking room, lots of conversation, great people and true freedom to
do as we please.

If you even think of coming to the Boulder area, please stop in and
say hello to some fellow  ASCers.

Their number is 303/442-1300.

Matt Steele

[ Excellent, Matt!  And if you're reading this, please give my
congratulations to Antonio on his bravery, and wish him the best of
success in his venture. -S. ]

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From: HAIM MAHLEV <???????????????????????>
Subject: Help Me

     Dear Sir

I started smoking pipe not long ago, and i have some difficulties in it. I
asked a friend of mine, who is also a new pipe smoker, and he suggested that
i contact you for help (in fact, i`m sending that email through him).
I`ve read your "how to" section about pipes, and i have several "up to the
point" questions. If you would be willing to help me, i would very gratefull.

1. In your "how to" section, you wrote : "Try to smoke all the way down". Is
this mean that i am to smoke to tobacco "all the way down" to the lungs? -a
salesman in the pipe shop told me that it is forbidden, for you can die from
the hot smoke you breath. Nevertheless, only through smoking the pipe all
the way to the lungs gives me the sense of taste from the tobacco. What
shall i do?

2. You said that a "cake" is leaving of millimieters of tobacco inside your
bowl. I have 2 questions concerning that: I`m using a "Dr Plumb" pipe. Is
that necessary in order to have a "better" smoke? -and second, do i need to
clean the bowl (i.e to through out all the tobacco left in it) after every
smoke, and leave the so called "cake"?

3. You also mentioned a rhythmical smoking of the pipe. How can that be

I`m very sorry for all the trouble i cause, but it means a lot to me.

Thank you in advance,

Joe Sartre.
Haim Mahlev
IDF orchestra

[ (1) By "all the way down," I meant "all the way down to the bottom
of the bowl." (2) The cake is necessary to avoid burning the wood of
the pipe as you smoke.  But if the pipe was advertised as "needs no
breaking in", it was probably pre-carbonized, and thus you don't have
to build up a cake.  The cake can only be removed by scraping the
walls of the bowl; don't worry about losing it when you empty the
pipe. (3) You're in an orchestra and you're asking _me_ about rhythm?
:-) Seriously, though, assuming that you've packed and lit it
correctly: if it gets too hot to hold, or burns your tongue, puff
slower.  If it goes out a lot, puff faster.  Hope this helps! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (John Mongle)
Subject: PD Submission/Nordings

I visited a tobacco shop last week that had Nordings along with Erick's 
(or Erica's, sorry not sure) and the owner said they were "the same as 
Nordings," i.e., produced by the same company, just a different name. Is 
this correct? What are the differences? All were priced at $95.00. Is 
this high, low or competitive? I'm a relatively new subscriber 
so I apologize in advance if this is something already hashed over in the 
digest. Keep up the good work! PD is a pleasure I look forward to always.
Best Regards, J.M.

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From: ????????????????????????? (richard marriott)
Subject: pipes irc room

Hi,I had not talked to you before. I am not a pipe smoker but have been
interested in them quite awhile. I have been chatting with a group on irc
on the pipes room. I think someone said they saw you there once.  I would
like to chat with you sometime,and i know the others would too. I do read
some of the things on the pipes digest site and the newsgroup. I know mark
tinsky has been on once. I asked him if he would like to chat also. It is
on irc.dal.net,6667 on the room named pipes. The group usually comes on
after 10 pm, some nights are slower than other. The usual big chat is sat
night. I am one of the ops but VicVixvi,his nickname on there, is the
creator of the room. Hope to see you there if you are not too busy. I
always like chatting with new people. Rich.

[ Thanks, Rich!  Haven't been on the pipes channel, but I was on the
cigars channel once, many years ago. One of these days I'll reinstall
irc and get on. -S. ]

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From: "William R. Price" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Newbie


Thank you for the intro... what a great publication!  After 20 zillion
cigarettes, (I recall smoking only 3) I finally started *tasting*
tobacco, with a Ben Wade Regent.  Wow!  I live in L.A., and have been
frequenting the Wilshire Ave. Tinder Box store.  Presently, going
through the process of trying an ounce of 'this or that'.
 I really enjoy the English blends, particularly "Baker Street Full".
Like searching for a full bodied coffee, or a fine bourbon, or cigar,
I'm sure this will take time.  Would you please direct me to some of
the 'Pipe Clubs' in L.A.?


  E-mail from: William R. Price, 23-Feb-1996

[ To find an L.A. pipe club, your best bet would probably be to mail
Steve Johnson, ????????????????? -S. ]

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From: "Joyce Perry"  <????????????????????????????????????>
Subject: Cigar Friendly in San Diego

  I am looking for recommendations for a cigar friendly restaraunt in San 
Diego, CA. and hoping that one of your many readers can e-mail me a swift 
response from the anti-tobacco state....

[ I have Liberty Tobacco in Digest #174, but that's not a restaurant.
But maybe they could help; their number is (619) 292-1772. Any others? -S. ] 

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From: Greg Randolph <?????????????????>
Subject: help with my calabash


     I was wondering if anyone in pipe land could help me with my 
calabash delima?  I have a giant calabash pipe that I received as a gift 
when I was a rookie pipe smoker.  While I was attempting to master the 
fine art of pipe smoking I had put sever scorch marks on the meershaum on 
top of the bowl.  Can anyone please tell me if and how these scorches can 
be removed from my prize possession?


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From: ???????????????
Subject: letter from a new member 


     I have just recently subscribed and read the PD you mailed. I found it
very interesting. One observation I made is there do not seem to be a large
percentage of cigar smokers contributing to the Digest. Is that typical or
are most of the members pipe smokers as opposed to cigar smokers? Also, do
you have any information concerning cigar clubs?
     As a matter of information for your cigar smokers, several of us have
started making a cigar friendly bar a regular after work meeting place on
Thursdays. It is the Paisley Pineapple in Greensboro, NC. It is on the second
floor above the restaurant and has a nice decor and is furnished with sofas
and easy chairs. The owner keeps a table-top humidor stocked or you can bring
your own. For subscribers who live in the area it is located in the 300 block
of S. Elm St.
     I am new to AOL and I look forward to receiving and contributing to the

                                               Keep on puffin'
                                               Randy Carroll (RCCIGAR)
                                               High Point, NC

[ Well, Randy, it all depends on what the members post here.  We have,
I'm sure, hundreds members who smoke cigars, exclusively, primarily,
or occasionally.  Same with pipes, etc.

The Guide does list a bunch of cigar clubs; new ones are always
welcomed.  I'll put the Paisley Pineapple in. Thanks for the note! -S. ]

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From: John Tolle <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: pipedigest

Thanks for enrolling me. I have a couple of questions/inquiries that
hopefully generate some responses. 1. I have a particular interest in
Charatans -usuallly large at least, freehand and/unusual shapes and GBD
Uniques. Anyone that has any available, let me know. 2. A particular
request for two Charatans that I parted with maybe 3-4 years ago that I
would like to get back-probably very little chance. But just in case,
these two were sold for me at Barcays in Columbus, Ohio and were both
large/extra large executives freehand. The 1st was straight, "broken
top"bowl style and unstained with typical slanting bowl and "flowers like
" at base of bowl, 2nd a full bend ,"broken topSTyle" bowl. 3. How do I
join pipe Club of London and pay here in US?


[ From the Guide, the Pipe Club of London is at 9 Frances Street
Chesham Buckinghamshire HP5 3EQ, Great Britain. See Pipes Digest
#192. -S. ]

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Quote of the Week:

"What is the iron law of Prohibitions?  Prohibitions are always
enacted by US, to govern the conduct of THEM."

				- Charles Whitebread

				(in a speech to the California Judges
				 Association 1995 annual
				 conference, on the subject of
				 "America's addiction to
				 Prohibitions."  It's an interesting 
				 speech, but too long to reprint here.
				 Mail me at ???????????????????????? if
				 you'd like a copy.)

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #211 -- February 125, 1996
  2. Subject: J&S Humidors new address
  3. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996
  4. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996
  6. Subject: Lee Van Cleef's pipe
  7. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996
  8. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996
  9. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996
  10. Subject: Dunhill's Fellowship of the White Spot.
  11. Subject: Reply to Jason Helmick Letter
  12. Subject: Merchandise Offering for Pipes Digest Readers
  13. Subject: Parker Pipe
  14. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996
  15. Subject: Important Information
  16. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #210 -- February 12, 1996
  17. Subject: Home Cigar-Making Kit (up date)
  18. Subject: Pipe situation in France
  19. Subject: Montecristo sampler
  20. Subject: Cigar/Pipe Group
  21. Subject: pipe bio
  22. Subject: A few thoughts regarding Pipes Digest #210...
  23. Subject: Need help...
  24. Subject: Re: A little about me
  25. Subject: Pipe Show
  26. Subject: New York Pipe Club 4th Annual Pipe Convention
  27. Subject: Ohio Pipe Collectors 1996 Swap/Sell Show
  28. Subject: Italian pipe makers
  29. Subject: Could you put this into the newsletter?
  30. Subject: Indian Cigars
  31. Subject: militias in ASP...?
  32. Subject: Boulder smoking ban & Laudisio's Italian Restaurant
  33. Subject: Help Me
  34. Subject: PD Submission/Nordings
  35. Subject: pipes irc room
  36. Subject: Newbie
  37. Subject: Cigar Friendly in San Diego
  38. Subject: help with my calabash
  39. Subject: letter from a new member
  40. Subject: pipedigest
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