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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest #215 -- April 29, 1996

		  Pipes Digest #215 -- April 29, 1996
	     Copyright (C) 1996 by Stephen P. Masticola.
	   All rights reserved. Commercial use prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 2166

Welcome to new members:

	Craig Johnson
	James D. Beard
	Nelson Pires
	Mirhan Berejikian
	Michael Shreve
	Will Wallace
	Robert Stevenson
	Matthew Sibenik
	Jason Gallop
	Scott Yates
	Clinton J. Lewis
	Chris Felknor
	Rick Forbes
	Jeff Miller
	Robert E. Walley
	Philip Florio
	Philip Timothy Cassel
	Jim Mau
	Tom Allen
	Earl D. ONeil
	Terry Prager
	Adam Haar
	Stephen Gercak
	S. Devereaux Palmer
	Paul M. Kaplan
	Charles H. Strom
	Dana Parrish
	Glenn Godsey
	John Wohlers
	David Grimes
	Augusto Cavalcante
	David Lajoie
	Aaron Cary
	Gary W. Raymond
	Stephen C. Holland
	S. Collins
	Joe Reed
	Paul Eric Belt
	David Aitken
	Steve Schwartz
	B. McGarvey
	Wade
	Brad Duryea
	John Gariglietti
	Grant R. Nicholson
	Songchu Lai
	Robert St. Leger
	Alain Letulier
	Hugh Scott
	John Perry
	Chris Homan
	Tina Atchison
	Jeff Salyer
	Nita Heatherly
	Michael Wolf
	James Evans
	Ernst Voegtle
	John A. Nelson
	Art Wagner
	Raymond R. Lucas
	Darrell L. Roberts
	Patrick Chrisnach
	Ezequiel Di Paolo
	Darrell W. Bartels
	Charles Alan Long
	Douglas Hower
	Kurt Stakeman
	Bernard Goldman
	Stormin' Norman
	Karen Koehler
	Dennis Finn
	Richard Loiacono
	James Quinn
	Jim Kooy
	Gary Baker

[ADMIN] Some folks may be getting two copies of this issue; this was
due to a mailer glitch at this end.  My apologies for any
inconvenience. 

Also, we now have our own domain, folks!  Vince Calloway and Steve
Beaty (our estimable Webmaster) have provided for us the following:

			http://www.pipes.org/

There are also a number of changes to the Web page, Guide, and Digest
formats, which I'll explain below.

[SPRING] Yes, it's finally getting warm enough here that we can
venture out onto the deck or into the garden, beckoned by the spring
flowers and the intense green of the landscape.  Once there, it's only
fitting that we enjoy a smoke, for we've been cooped up inside for too
long.  And, as Garrison Keillor's old nurseryman noted when confronted
with the dribbles of chaw on his tomato flats: "Plants love tobacco."

So join us outside and light up as we look over the tulips that the
rabbits haven't yet chewed to bits, the oxalis that they won't, and
the nicotiana that they'd better not, listen for the first thrushes,
and admire all that is to be admired...


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			Then, smoke in peace.

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From: ?????????????????????????????
Subject: Sail

I posted the following in alt.smokers.pipes, but I thought
I'd offer it here as well.  Hope it sparks some discussion.

I picked up a pouch of Sail Aromatic (in a green pouch).  The label
on the outside says "Smooth Dutch Cavendish."  Naturally, I thought
it would be a typical, "crowd-pleasing" cavendish.  Once I broke
the seal, however, my nose picked up what the inside label told me:
"Sail Aromatic combines the mystique of the Orient with bright,
clear Virginia leaf.  The result is a pleasant blend that never
offends or tires.  A few Latakia leaves add to the lasting charm..."
It was a pleasant smoke, though I'm not too experienced with Latakia
blends.  My question is this:  What qualifies as an aromatic?  I've
always assumed aromatics are the blends that most people say "smells
like a pipe" and react favorably to, while other blends draw reactions
like, "That smells like a burning tire," etc.  What are your comments
on Sail, and how well is it received by non-smokers?

JRDew


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From: Bob Curtis <???????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest submission...

Steve: A submission for the next P.D....
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Recently, The Pipe Digest's regular reader Jim Denton from Cigar.com
received the following interesting request from a member of the U.S. 
peacekeeping troops in Bosnia. 

"... I am an Army physician deployed with Operation Joint Endeavor in
support of the Bosnia peace mission. I am presently starting a small cigar
club here in Tszar, Hungary. It now consists of mainly novice to early
intermediate smokers." 

"Currently, we are unable to acquire cigars, lighters, cutters, boxes and
other essential equipment. For the past 4 months we have been locked down
on a small NATO air base. Our supplies that we brought with us (including
the last 4 Montecristo Cubans) are quickly diminishing. Any samples, and
catalogs that your company offers would greatly be appreciated." 

             "CPT Paul Rupp
              67th Combat Support Hospital"

Cigar.com has taken the time to organize "Operation Cigar Lift" to collect
contributions from cigar retailers, manufacturers, and even individuals to
support our troops. As the excerpts above state, these troops are in need
of not only cigars, but lighters, cutters, even retail catalogs. For those
interested in contributing to this worthy cause, Jim has set up a web site
with further information about this effort. 

Full details can be found at:  http://www.cigar.com/airlift/
or by writing to :  Jim Denton <?????????????????>

Any cigar-related contributions may be sent directly to :

	Summary Corp.
	Operation Cigar Lift
	1701 Brun, Suite 100
	Houston, TX 77019

	(800) 588-1857

Thanks in advance to all those participating in this worthy cause....

--  
Bob Curtis <???????????> 
"smoke 'em if ya got 'em..."

[ A worthier cause could not be found, Bob!  I'll buy a box of cigars
(hopefully Don Tomas Presidentes) specially for the effort. -S. ]


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From: David Cunningham <????????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #214 -- April 14, 1996

I enjoy reading PD, but unfortunately I have not been able to get up and 
go to Fader's, my local tobacco store, and buy a pipe for myself. It is 
definitely annoying walking around my neighborhood and getting weird 
looks from people as I smoke a Punch Royal Coronation. It is a very good 
cigar. It's also annoying that most restaurants do not allow smoking. 
It's bad. Lately, I have been smoking a smaller cigar, they're called 
Biddies by Agio. They arenot bad, yet they leave a hot taste on your 
tounge. I was wondering if there was a smaller cigar, which is 
inexpensive, that I could purchase at my tobbaco shop in Towson, 
Maryland? I'm not sure which pipe tobacco to purchase there, so I was 
wondering if Mac Baren's Black Ambrosia Pipe Tobacco was any good.

Thanks, and keep up the good work with the digest.

[ I have a can of Black Ambrosia here, and it's gone largely unsmoked.
But that's just my taste.  It's a black Cavendish; probably if you
like Captain Black you'll like Black Ambrosia more. -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????? (Benis M. Frank)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #214 -- April 14, 1996

Steve, the PDs are getting better all the time, that is if you can improse
on success.I read #214 while smoking a half-bent GBD, and old one which a
friend gave me, and it is a beauty. What made it ever more enjoyable is
that it was filled with Craig Tarler's #813, which is to be my tobacco of
choice. I took advantage of his offer and selected five samples from his
extensive list, of which three were good, but 813 is the best. In over 55
years of smoking, I have tried many tobaccos and I recall the pleasure I
had smoking Revelation, but that was when I was young. I even tried Rum and
Maple then. But there was one tobacco I really enjoyed and that was S.S.
Pierce of Boston's OPM. They are long out of business, but I wonder if any
other tobacco firm ever took over that blend. I enjoy reading the posts of
these young fellows who have just experienced the joy of pipe smoking. I've
never known of a bad guy who was a pipe smoker, except perhaps for John
Mitchell. Cheers, Ben Frank

Benis M. Frank, Chief Historian of the Marine Corps

[ Thanks for the good word, Ben! Hope someone can help out with the
S. S. Pierce. -S. ]


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From: ?????????????? (pat)
Subject: PD submission

Dear Steve,
At the recent mention of the Tobacco Taverne in State College, PA, I thought
it would be a good idea to notify anyone in the area of the new cigar shop
in town. Its appropriately called "The Cigar Shop" and it's, in my opinion a
step up from the taverne.  The new place has a walk in humidor that's well
appointed and quite relaxing. The cigar selection is about equivalent to the 
taverne.  However the shop does not carry pipes or pipe tobacco.
thank you and keep up the good work,
         from state college, Pat Mayfield

some info for the resources list:

the cigar shop
231 east beaver avenue
state college , PA 16801

phone (814) 231-0828
fax   (814) 231-0868


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From: Mark Andrew Felio  <????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #214 -- April 14, 1996

	Steve,
	  After recieving this magazine I now realize I'm not the only 
young person that smokes a pipe.  I meet people all the time who can't 
believe I just don't smoke cigaretts instead but, I tell them a pipe is much 
more 
enjoyable and smells better too. I do have question though through my 
expirience I have discovered that pipe smoking does not seem to be as 
adictave as cigarett smoking I smoke alot somedays other days one or two 
bowls and yet other times I just plane don't feel like it. I love to 
smoke the pipe but, I have at times gone more than a week without even 
realizing I haden't smoked.  Is this just me or is pipe tobacco not as 
addictave as other tobbaco?
                                                   Mark 

[ Never having been big on cigarettes, I couldn't say, Mark.  Though I
have little trouble putting it aside when I want. Probably the major
factor is that few people inhale pipes.  Some believe that pipe
tobacco contains less nicotine, though I don't know that
authoritatively.  -S. ]


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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Web page update

Steve and all,

        it's been a little while since i've updated the mailing list as to
what's been going on on the Web page.  here's some of the stuff:

        1) first and foremost, we now have our own domain!  thanks to the
ever-helpful Vince Calloway, the pipes home page is now located at:

        http://www.pipes.org/

pretty darn cool, i think.  the old address at www.tacoma.net will be
deprecated in the coming months, so update those pointers!  the new domain
may not have propagated to all corners of the world, but it's at least
reached my little corner of it.

        2) for people who have difficulty with background images (the
lettering seems very faint), try using http://www.pipes.org/no_bg_index.html
that should solve your problems.

        3) a new disclaimer has been added for pointers from the page;
please read it if you plan to submit a URL and are in the habit of sending
out junk email.

        4) old digests now have all email addresses stripped out of them;
see #3 for the reason why.

        there's also lots of new pointers and such, drop by and check things
out when you get a chance.

Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                 ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA        http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/

[ And re 3 and 4, see my letter, next. -S. ]


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From: Steve Masticola <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: Use of Pipes Digest mailing list in violation of copyright

To : ????????????????
Subject: Use of Pipes Digest mailing list in violation of copyright

Gentlemen:

It has come to my attention that you have extracted email addresses
from the Pipes Digest and used them to send unsolicited commercial
junk email to members.  This violates both the copyright of the Digest
and the explicit guidelines for use of the Digest that prohibit
commercial use of the Digest. (Both are printed at the top of every
mailing).  Therefore I am taking the following actions:

- Deleting your organization from the Pipes Digest mailing list;
- Deleting your organization from the Digest resource guide;
- Publishing this letter in the Digest mailing list;
- Sending a copy of this letter to your system administrator for further
  disciplinary action.

Sincerely,
Stephen P. Masticola (????????????????????????)
Moderator, Internet Pipes Digest

[ This company is also known as Cigar Trading Lda.  They later
admitted to sending commercial junk mail to 3000 addresses mined from
various places, including the Digest.  (Original spam and admission of
guilt available upon request.)

Hence the changes to the Digest format (removing the new members'
addresses) and also to the Web site (removing _all_ addresses from
archived Digests), to protect Digest members from junk mail.

If you don't like spamvertising, don't buy from Cigar Trading Lda.

And with this, the third spam of the mailing list, I'm going to have
to get tough.  No apologies accepted.  No second chances.  The rules
were sufficiently clear, and Cigar Trading Lda. cynically broke
them. 

Furthermore, we will no longer list the addresses of spamvertisers in
the Guide, nor will Steve Beaty list or hot-link to them in the Web
site, regardless of where they obtain email addresses.  These services
are reserved for good Net citizens only.

Now, back to better things! -S. ]


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From: David Quisenberry <??????????????????>
Subject: New Establishment in Dallas

Wanted to make note of a new resturant recently opened in North Dallas
called the Flying Saucer which is located at the corner of Beltline
and Montfort.  They have over 200 beers on tap and bottled, a decent
menu of sandwiches, and best of all encourage cigar smoking.  Their
current cigar menu lists 21 cigars (the largest selection at a
resturant/pub in Dallas that I know of) ranging from Romeo & Julieta
Vintage II at the top end to Don Lino Petit Cetro at the low end price
wise.  The cigars were a little pricey, but Im sure after a few of
their 200 brews, you want protest too much.  A nice addition is cedar
sticks located at each table to light your cigar with if you dont care
for butane/lighter fluid hitting your expensive stogie!

David

[ Thanks, David! I've put them in the Guide.  Interesting about the
cedar sticks -- how well do they work? -S. ]


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From: "N.A. Goldberg S9552197" <??????????????????>
Subject: pipes digest.

Steve, firstly, thanks for sending me your digest, it has proved useful and
informative as well as amusing.  I was wondering if you could include the
following in the next edition of the digest ...

     I am a 20 year old student currently studying at the University of
Huddersfield, England.  As part of my course, I am carrying out a survey of
pipe smokers, (being one myself, I felt this to be the perfect subject to
study).
     I was wondering there are any pipe smokers, preferably aged below 30,
although there isn't really a cut off point, that would be willing to answer 
a few questions regarding pipe smoking, such as when, where, how and why
they became a pipe smoker.  I f there are any willing volunteers could  you
please email me at the following address ...

               ??????????????????

     possibly giving a brief outline of their answers.  Also, I would like
to hear any views from pipe smokers on how they feel about smoking a pipe in 
todays world,  in particular, how younger pipe smokers feel about their pipe 
smoking in a time when many view pipes as strictly for the older
generations.

     I would be most grateful for any information sent to me.

               Thanks,
               Nick Goldberg.


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From: "N.A. Goldberg S9552197" <??????????????????>

I have received the digest for about 5 or 6 issues, and for each of
these, I have been unable to receive the whole document as my memory
allocation is not sufficient.  Because of this, I have resorted to
reading what I receive on my email, and then reading the rest on the
internet.  This system works well, but unfourntunately, if the is a
comment that I wish to send to a contributor, and his letter was read
on the internet, then I am unable to obtain his address.  This is what
has happenend.  In PD 213, Phillip Richards from Maidstone, Kent ,
U.K.  wrote in and talked about young pipesmokers. He asked for any
pipesmokers around his age or younger to contact him.  This I would
like to do, but I am unable to get his address.  Could you please pass
my address on to Phillip or alternatively pass his address to me.

Cheers,

Nick Goldberg    ??????????????????

P.S. I like the new er layout of the PD web site, the Search facility is
very good.

[ Philip's address sent, Nick!  Perhaps you could talk to your
sysadmin and get your memory allocation increased. -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????? (Louis F. Carbone)
Subject: How It All Began

Hi Steve, 
      
     How are you today ?  Thanks for the dedication to the Digest, I love
it.  I just thought I would give this a shot since I wanted to tell you how
I became interested in pipes and pipe smoking.  It is a rich history and I
hope it doesn't bore anyone. 
  
     Looking back on it now, at 35 years old I could say that ever since I
could remember, my Dad smoked a pipe.  My earliest memories are of him
smoking his pipe on a Sunday afternoon.  At about the age of 5, I used to
join my father for his ritual "Sunday Drive" in his 1960 Chevy Impala.  He
loved that car and I surmise that his ritual began long before I was.  One
of his rituals was smoking his pipe while taking that long drive on the
Long Island Expressway on a trip to nowhere.  You see, he worked two jobs
and even on Saturday, so he never used the car during the week.  He was a
firm believer in the idea that if you did not use the car much you should
take it on a long ride when the opportunity arrived.  I don't know the
validity of this idea but it worked for him.  So, after we got out of
church, as Mom cooked her marinara sauce at home, Dad and I would embark on
a trip to really, nowhere.  We would just drive for about an hour and then
turn around and head back.  I think he just loved the idea that he could
"get away" for a bit and smoke his pipe and drive his car.  I can still
picture him sitting behind the wheel, smoking his pipe filled with Holiday
Tobacco, the aroma of the tobacco blowing around me in the passenger seat,
it smelled great.  I loved that time we spent together, actually for two
reasons; I didn't get to see much of him during the week and I loved the
smell of his pipe.   
 
     As for his collection, he had about three circular racks of twelve
with the glass humidor in the middle.  One humidor lid even had two horses
heads carved out of the wood.  The racks were filled with various pipes.  I
don't believe he owned any that would be considered a high grade.  He must
have bought them anywhere from the late 1950's to early 1960's.  I don't
remember him ever buying a pipe during the times that I could remember.  I
remember many with a with shamrock logo, others were from E.A. Carey's as I
would come to know later on.  As for the humidors, they were always filled
with Holiday or, later, Capt. Black.  He smoked these blends exclusively.
He was content with his modest collection and along with some pipe cleaners
and a pipe tool, he was happy. 
 
     These are my earliest memories of pipe smoking and I think it laid the
foundation to my own passion that followed in my adult life.  I would say
that life went on pretty much the same until my teen years, when teens try
to detach themselves from their parents and establish their own identities.
 The Sunday drives continued for my dad but unfortunately, without me.  At
the age of fifteen, I got bold.  I would go downstairs to the basement to
the shelves where my father's pipes were, select one that appealed to me,
fill it with Holiday and then go to the back door, light up and blow the
smoke into the alley behind the house.  This went on for a while and I
enjoyed it.  Once, I asked my mother when she thought it would be
appropriate for me to take up the pipe and she said, "When you get a little
older, Louis".  As far as I was concerned, that wasn't a "no", so at the
age of sixteen I was able to scrape up $15.00  and with that I went down to
Arnold's Tobacco Shop located in Queens Center Mall and purchased my first
pipe, an Italian second.  To me, it was the greatest pipe I had ever seen. 
Though it was loaded with fills, it was my own.  So, with that, a couple of
ounces of an aromatic called "Cake Box", some new pipe cleaners and a brand
spankin' new three in one pipe tool, I was well on my way into the world of
Kapnismology.  Kinda' weird to be smoking a pipe at the age of sixteen.  I
was the only one of my friends to do so.  Everyone else smoked cigarettes,
but I loved it.  Even more to my delight was to find out that the Hobbits
loved to smoke pipes.  That's right, I found my way to some great reading
by Tolkein and could not believe that the Hobbits smoked pipes.  This was
great, I would light up in my room, open a window and read The Lord of the
Rings into the night.  At sixteen this was heavy duty.  It was around this
time that I met my good friend Fred Alvarez.  We met at a teen club that
was held in my old grammar school in Middle Village.  We shared similar
interests and started hanging out.  You would not believe this but Fred,
who was two years older, also happened to be a pipe smoker.  He smoked
cigarettes too but he loved his pipe.  We could not believe this.  There
was nobody our age who smoked pipes.  So, we shared tobacco and how to's on
pipe smoking. 
    Things went on like this for some time.  I was in high school and
didn't work so new pipes didn't come by so easy.  I managed to obtain a few
more pipes from Arnold's, nothing to mention but I loved all of them, about
five in all.  Years passed all the while smoking when I could, through high
school and college.  Never met anyone else who enjoyed the pipe beside
Fred, even at Queens College.  He too obtained a few non descript pipes for
his collection.  Once I did start working, at Maspeth Federal S & L Assoc. 
things picked up.  I remember going to Arnold's one day and I bought my
first meerschaum.  It was the head of a Viking.  I am a Minnesota Viking
fan so this pipe was a must buy.  It was carved by Yunis, have you heard of
him ?  It is a beautiful pipe.  Colored great in ten years of on off
smoking.  Also around this time, 1985, I received a catalog from Wally
Frank, since their main distributor/warehouse was located in the
neighboring town of Middle Village, I lived in Maspeth.  BTW, Wally Frank
is now somebody else and are located in Texas.  I also received a catalog
from E.A. Carey's, a company I remember seeing on the shanks of some of my
father's pipes.  He BTW, still smoked his pipes throughout these years as
well.  He didn't seem too interested when I told him I started smoking
pipes and he was not the talkative type.  Anyway, I bought some pipes from
both of these companies, turned Fred on to their phone numbers and the both
of us started to amass a collection.  I bought some Savinelli's, some GBD's
and some tobaccos.  At this time I also started seeking out tobacconists in
the area.  Besides Arnold's in Queens Center Mall, the only place to find
tobacconists was Manhattan, so I visited Pipeworks at Wilke, De La Concha,
Arnold's Manhattan and Barclay Rex.  There was a Wally Frank's store in
Roosevelt Field Mall were I bought a few pipes like Micloi, Butz-Chocin and
some seconds as well as tobacco and supplies.  But it was the Manhattan
stores that I got my first look at "high grades".  WOW !!!  Pipes like
Dunhill, Ashton, Jacapo, Peterson,  etc...  All out of my range for sure. 
However, one day in the mail I struck gold.  I was somehow, by the magic of
mailing lists, found by the late Barry Levin of then Levin Pipes.  BINGO,
he sold pipes that were already smoked, sounded gross but could you believe
those prices !!!  Now I could conceivably afford the high grades that I
could only drool over in the stores.  So it was that I began my second life
in Kapnismology.  Of course, Fred learned of Barry Levin also.  I bought as
many pipes as I could afford and even when I couldn't.  I amassed a great
collection of assorted brands and artisans.  I also learned of Hacker's
book, The Ultimate Pipe Book, and an instant "ultimate" education ensued. 
Other mailers followed like Bob Hamlin of Pipe Collectors Club of America,
Edwards Tobacco Shop and others.  I also had the privelage, via Hacker's
book, of finding out about Tom Dunn and the Pipe Smokers Ephemeris, who, by
this publication has done more for our hobby in the last 30+ years than
anyone.  By it I have received countless amounts of information to feed my
passion.  So, over the last seven to ten years I have delved deeply into
the fine art of pipe smoking.  I have attended all of the N.Y. Pipe Club
Shows, four in all, and have met a great number of fine fellows and
friends.  A sad note to all of this was finding out about the passing of
Barry Levin when I attended the Second Annual N.Y. Pipe Show.  It was
sudden and tragic and it sent a shock wave throughout the world of pipe
smoking.  I have him to thank for teaching me the finer points and the
refinements of our hobby.  If anything positive could have come out of his
passing, it was that his son Nikos Levin emerged  to carry on what his
father had begun, the distribution of and EDUCATION about fine pipes,
tobaccos and assesories.  He is one of the finer gentlemen that I have had
the privelage to meet and get to know.   
 
     As for the state of my pipe smoking today, I basically deal with
either Nikos Levin or Bob Hamlin as others delete me from their list if I
fail to buy a pipe per mailer.  Now I realize that these mailers cost a
great deal of money, but if we fail to receive them, how will we have the
opportunity to buy.  I realize and understand their position, though. 
However at this point in my life, married with two children, it is often
times difficult to justify the purchase of a new Ashton or Jacapo when the
cupboard is bare, you know what I mean ?  But given the opportunity, I
would be able to purchase a pipe here and there if the mailer was to reach
me on occasion.  Here I must make a good point.  I must say that if you can
find a local tobacconist, and I mean tobacconist, he/she is overwhelmingly
deserving of our support.  My "local" tobacconist happens to be located
about 20 miles from my house but he has my support.  I am speaking of one
of the kindest friends I also have the privelage of knowing and that is Joe
Nastri of Trinity East Tobacco Shop located on the Sunrise Highway in
Rockville Center, Long Island.  He is "the" premier tobacconist this side
of the East River.  He will never fail to go out of his way to help you
find just the right pipe and tobacco.  Too many shops are closing their
doors and it seems that the tobacconist is a dying breed.  This is a shame.
 We can prevent it by supporting our local tobacconist.  Getting back to my
likes, I smoke either English blends of assorted kinds and Tinned Virginias
and Matured Virginias, the kind that McClelland's puts out.  My Favorite
pipes are whatever catches my eye as my collection is diversified with many
different brands and artisans.  I must say that I smoke exclusively bents
or semi-bents as I really don't think I am comfortable with straight pipes.
 My favorite pipes would be those made in England; Ashton and Dunhill and
Italy; Castello, Radice, Jacapo, and old Caminetto's, but I will smoke any
and all in between.  As long as the pipe has no fills and I like what it
looks like I would consider adding it to my collection.  I have about 60
pipes of Briar and Meerschaum.        
 
     So, basically this is my pipe story take it or leave it.  I hope that
some can relate and I hope it didn't bore anyone, sorry if it did.  I smoke
about a pipeful a day during the week and about two to three on Sat. and
Sun.  My friend Fred still enjoys his pipes as well and we enjoy chatting
about our experiences with them.  I try to stay as informed as I could and
the Pipes Digest is one of the best ways of doing that.  In a non
electronic form, the Pipe Smokers Ephemeris by Tom Dunn is my other link. 
I applaud all of the efforts of people like you and Tom for the task is
colossal.  But it is people like you who keep the torch lit by providing a
forum for us to share our knowledge, ask questions and learn.  A most noble
effort for sure. 
 
     So, Steve, I hope you enjoyed a look into my world. If you can I would
appreciate if you could post it to the digest.  Also please post my new
e-mail address if you would.  I'll speak to you soon, until then, stay well
and happy smoking. 
 
Your friend , 
 
Louis F. Carbone             

[ You're absolutely right about supporting your local tobacconist,
Louis!  So I won't mail-order the box of cigars that I was going to
send to "Operation Cigar Lift"; rather, I'll buy them locally. -S. ]


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From: John Wohlers <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Thanks for adding me to the list

Steve,
	Thank you for adding me to the digest.  I am twenty years old and 
am really just stating to really get into pipe smoking.  I have 
experimented off and on with pipe smoking for about six months now.  I 
really enjoy it but like other members of the digest whom are my age I 
have found that it is not looked upon as "Normal".  For the past six 
months I have been attempting to avoid most people when I smoke.  
(Especially family, they wouldn't approve...) So I was wondering if you 
know of any pipe (Or Cigar) clubs in the Aurora, IL area.  If not are 
there any members of the digest from that area interested in getting 
together to enjoy a bowl?
		John Wohlers
 
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*                      John Wohlers                         *
*               ??????????????????????????                  *
*************************************************************

[ I don't know where Aurora is, but there are, in Chicago, the
Chicagoland Pipe Collectors Club (Mike Reschke, (708) 620-5033, or Rex
Poggenpohl, ??????????????????) and the Cigar Connoisseurs of Chicago
(312-337-8025). Both listed in the Guide. Also, please see the next
letter, re Chicago-area happenings.  -S. ]


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From: Brandon Rottinghaus <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #214 -- April 14, 1996

Steve,

two business notes:
1)  I attended the Chicago Pipe Show 2 weekends ago.  It was wonderful!
It was my first show and I had a great time.  Also, I purchased a Tilshead
pipe by Upshaw and some English tobacco.  I love them both!!

2)  I have a pipe my father smoked in college and it is very unique.  It is
a billard style with grooves carved into it.  Also, it has a yellow dot on
the shank on the left side.  If you know, can you help me find out what it
is.  Can anyone help me?

Thanks,
Brandon Rottinghaus


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From: ????????????????
Subject: tinderbox and dings

Here is the information requested for Tinder Box Internationale and Club
Amante

Tinder Box Internationale
& Club Amante
1312 W. Southern Ave. Suite 1
Mesa, AZ 85202
602.644.9300
800.962.3160

< from: John David Grapentine: I aquired a beautiful "Wiley"
free-hand briar back in January and somewhere along the way of
enjoying this great pipe I had a little accident with it resulting in
three or four small dings on the bowl. 

You can sometimes steam out small dents using a wet cloth or sock and and a
warm iron. He says to iron the briar with the cloth inbetween, being careful,
of course, not to scortch the briar or yourself.

[ Polishing the pipe afterward, once it has cooled and dried, probably
couldn't hurt either.  See below for another dent-removal
technique. -S. ]


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From: Mike Hagley <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #214 -- April 14, 1996

A gentleman wrote asking how to remove dents from briar bowls.  Since I am
not very good at this internet stuff yet, I am posting a reply to you
instead of the person asking the question.  It is really a quite easy
process, requiring only some paper towels, an iron (like you press clothes
with), and some water.  Tear a paper towel in half, and fold it continuously
until it is a square, about 2 inches large.  Then dampen the towel with
water.  Place the towel on the dent, and place the iron on the towel.  Do
this repeatedly until the dent "pops" out.  I have done this many times over
the years, and in some cases actually fixed some dents in which the wood
fibres were broken or crushed.  I performed this feat on a patent date
Dunhill root briar some years ago, and the repair was invisible.  While you
are doing the steaming, continue checking to make sure you do not scorch the
wood.  Continue wetting the paper towel so it does not dry out.  Any more
questions, drop me a message.


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From: ???????????????????? (Michael Peebles )
Subject: A Question regarding tobacco types

Steve,
Good Morning!
 I am sitting down getting ready to try my first pipe of Stoneheaven 
from Esoterica. It's deep, rich aroma is very excellent. This leads  me 
to my question. As I am still relatively new to pipe smoking I was 
wondering if you could point me towards some good reading/primers on 
pipe tobacco and the various kinds/descriptions, such as what 
characterizes a Virgina, a burley, etc..
 I am afraid that when my favorite tobacconist here in Columbus starts 
talking about the blends I get a little lost. I know what I like, but 
not much more than that. 
Any help would be REALLY appreciated.
Thanks
Michael 

[ Carl Ehwa's "Book of Pipes and Tobaccos" is best; Rick Hacker's
"Ultimate Pipe Book" is good if you can't find the Ehwa book. I guess
this really should be a FAQ.   -S. ]



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From: ??????????????
Subject: Condor etc.

Dear Steve, 

I noticed a member wrote that Grant's in San Francisco was an enjoyable stop
for visitors of that fair city. Grants is what I would call a real
tobacconist.  I was in Grant's just the other day and what should I find but
a package of Condor light blend.  I had read so much about it that I added it
to my other purchases.  I know that Grants used to mail order perhaps this is
a source of the much sought after brand.

 Smoking the Condor later on that day was a very nice experience, one I would
have never had without the comraderie of this group. I was reflecting on what
 another contributor had written on the very real difference PD has made to
the  enjoyment of this hobby.

 I started smoking a pipe a couple years ago and was aided on my journey by
the very friendly advice of Jay Beardsly of Edwards Pipes in Los Altos.
(Origonally part of the other Edwards stores but since an independent)
Everyone should try to find at least one  tobacconist, if they are fortunate
enough to have one nearby,  where you know the proprieter on a first name
basis.  Even with, what I think, was better tutoring in the art of pipe
smoking than most people without local tobacconists get, I don't think that I
would be half as knowledgable with out this great forum. Its like having the
most knowledgable pipe smokers in the whole country available at my own
 corner smoke shop. 

I have now purchased estate pipes now from Pulvers Prior Briar, Nikos Levin,
Edwards, Briar Nut and Old Knickerbockers as well as attending the Southwest
Pipe show last June. I have found that I like  virginias (throat can't handle
latakia unfortunately) currently my favorite is Three Nuns and I am always
searching for the perfect blend. One of the gentlemen I met at the Briar Nut
in Hayward, who had been a pipe afficianado for 25 years, told me he felt one
of the joys of the pipe was searching for the perfect tobacco which he knew
he probably would never find but always hoped and believed he might.  The
search for perfection without making too much fuss about it and having a good
time along the way, what a great philosophy to live by.  

Thanks Steve ,  I like PD just the way it is.

John Rudolph
"Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else"

[ Thank you, John!  BTW, I was lucky enough to acquire a few pouches
of Condor in a trade from Bruce Harris.  Personally, I'm not crazy
about it; it has probably the heaviest concentration of glycol I've
ever encountered.  Other than that, it was (probably) a nice mild
flake; the "light" variety may be different. Anyone know of a way of
de-glycoling tobacco?  -S. ]


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From: Sami Mikhail <??????????????????>
Subject: Resource Guide update.

Hi Steve:

Resource Guide update, if you haven't gotten it from someone else.

Edward's Pipe and Tobacco
15757 Coit Rd suite 338 
Dallas, Tx.  75248
(214) 774-1655

This is Jack Ehrmentraut's place, and use to have a "Promenade" address.

[ Modified, Sami, and thanks! -S. ]


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From: Sami Mikhail <??????????????????>
Subject: Dallas PCI Show.

The following is lifted directely from Bob Hamlin's page:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rchpcca/esplist.htm

"May 25th & 26th will host the National PCI Convention in Dallas, TX for 
1996. This is historically the largest event of the year with 
manufacturers, retails, collectors and pipemakers. PCCA will be there with 
a full day pre-view on Friday May 24th and a full display on Sat/Sun. 
Don't forget the annual PCI Pipe Smoking contest, where you win by being 
"last", with a top prize of a custom made $2500.00 Dunhill pipe. Contact 
PCI (Jack Ehrmantraut) at 214-774-1655 or fax 214-774-1658. Held at DFW 
Airport Hyatt Regency Hotel (214-453-1234, $68 to $82 per night special 
rate). "

If I get more info I will pass it on.

Thanks.

[ No problem, Sami, and thanks again! -S. ]


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From: ????????????????
Subject: Long Overdue Intro

Steve,
  Thanks for all the hard work you put into this digest.  It's really
been both a joy and a help to read.  Could you change my mailing
address from ???????????????????? to ?????????????????  I'm trying to
stem the flow of email at work.  I'll just have to learn to tolerate
the aoler jabs from some of the other news groups.

  My name is Dan Stegner, I've been an off-and-on-again pipe smoker
for several years, trying to get rid of the cigarette habit.  I've
been mostly smoking my pipe for the past year or so.  English blends
are my favorite for late afternoon and evening. In the morning I'll
smoke IQ, St Bruno's Flake, or Dark Navy Twist--depending on my mood.

  I try to buy the best pipes that I can afford.  I have a couple of
meerchims, a Norde freehand (the cheap ones), an Ardore full bent
which is a nice dry smoke, a Savinelli Long John, and a Stanwell.  The
Stanwell and Savinelli are recent additions during my sudden and
ongoing estate pipe craze.  I recently bought a never-smoked pipe that
was collecting dust at a grocery store for $20.  The briar has lots of
beutiful birds-eye and there are no putty fills that I can see.  The
briar is stained, but not varnished or laquered and it provides a
wonderful smoke. The brand name is Wild Honey and it is made in
London, England.  My local tobacconist said that this brand is no
longer made, but that's all he could tell me about the pipe.

  Can anyone provide me with more information about Wild Honey pipes?
I couldn't find any reference in Hacker's book and a search of back
issues of the digest proved fruitless.

Thanks,
Dan Stegner
????????????????

[ Wild Honey is also not in the Ephemeris index, Dan.  Does anyone
else here know anything about them?  -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest

Steve --

I noticed some commentaries recently on Perique and Latakia on the "net."
I pulled out of my desk drawer a newspaper article that appeared in the
New Orleans paper a few years ago, concerning Perique farming in
Louisiana.  Perhaps the readers might be interested in some excerpted
tidbits therefrom........

Today, Perique is grown in a sandy location, less than one hour's drive
from New Orleans.  Many pipesmokers know the story, how the French settlers
got seeds and curing techniques from the Native Americans here, so I
won't belabor that part of the history.

The processing of Perique is still largely a "hands-on" operation.  Each
tobacco leaf is handled 15-20 times before it is squeezed into a barrel and
pressed repeatedly with a screw-jack during curing.  The seeds are planted
Then, in June, when the mature leaf turns yellowish, the stalks are cut
with cane knives; and the plants are left until the next morning, while
turning limp in texture.  Then, the stalks are hung in a barn to dry, after
which the leaves are stripped off and pounded.  After beating, the leaves 
are moistened and hand-stemmed, in preparation for the pressing and curing.

The local folks sometimes chew it and smoke it in cigarettes (as well as
pipes -- WARNING!  To the uninitiated, smoking straight Perique will really
clear the sinuses!)  The dust from the tobacco-pounding is also popular
locally for keeping lice and fleas from chicken houses and dog houses.

Sadly, Perique production has dramatically dropped in recent decades.
It is becoming harder and harder to get the present generation of local
folks to pursue this toil and hands-on work.  There are few "brokerage
houses" left in the area.  One is Poche's.  For anyone travelling to the
New Orleans area (with a car), you can get there by taking I-20 west
toward Baton Rouge.  Exit at Highway 641 and proceed south to Highway 44
(River Road).  Go upriver from the town of Lutcher, about 10 miles.
Poche's is on the right, just past Manresa House of Retreats.  There are
no organized tours, but Poche's is usually open for a visit.

Perique is definitely on the "enddangered species" list.  Enjoy it.

A year or so ago, I found (in a small art shop in the French Quarter)
a print of the Perique farmers in the act of twisting the wooden
scre-jacks, pressing the large "carottes" of tobacco leaf in the 
large curing barrels, as it slowly aged (fermented) in its juices.
It adorns my office wall now (and, no, it's not for sale!).

Puff, puff,
Rick Welch

[ Indeed!  If you enjoy Perique, it might be best to stock up on some
tinned varieties now; recos are solicited. -S. ]


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From: ???????????????????? (Charles L. Basso Jr.)
Subject: Yet another literary item for the Digest

Here's another little thing I came across rereading Baudelaire's _Les 
Fleurs du Mal_ (which seems to go better with a cigar than a pipe, 
IMO):

The Pipe

I am a writer's pipe.  One look at me
and the coffee color of my Kaffir face
will tell you I am not the only slave:
my master is addicted to his vice.

Every so often he is overcome
by some despair or other, whereupon
tobacco clouds pour out of me as if
the stove were kindled and the pot put on.

I wrap his soul in mine and cradle it
within a blue and fluctuating thread
that rises out of my rekinsled lips

from the glowing coal that brews a secret spell.
He smokes his pipe, allaying heart and mind,
and for tonight all injuries are healed.

          -- Baudelaire, _Les Fleurs du Mal_, 70.

Regards from Toledo,
Chuck


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From: ????????????????? (jason gallop)
Subject: Re: New Pipe Break in Syndrome ? (NPBS)

>>When breaking in a new pipe is it normal for even the nicest of tobacco to 
>>taste bitter? I am currently breaking in a Peterson and am having a great
>>deal of trouble or rather distaste with it! Is there anyone who can shed 
>>any light on this topic?

>No. as a matter of fact just the opposite.  NO past tobacco to chg the taste. 
>I have had problems keeping new pipes lit, but not in the tobacco
>tasting bad. Have you tried several tobaccos?

Thank you for such a speedy reply! I have only tried two blends in it, which
are very similar. Both blends are quite sweet and very aromatic. In an old
pipe the are both excellent, but in the Peterson are quite different. I have
smoked 6-8 half bowls of the Peterson with these blends but I cannot seem to
get right to the bottom becavse the tobacco becomes too juict and
distasteful. Needles to say, the bottom of the bowl is not black yet.
Perhaps I am being too impetuous and want too much from the Peterson too soon?

Best Regards, 

Jason Gallop

[ The P-trap system also has a tendency to get juicy, regardless of
how well the pipe is broken in.  This might be affecting the flavor. I
also find that my larger Petersons generally smoke better than the
small ones.

But regardless of size, the best results are obtained by cleaning the
traps regularly with a paper towel or Q-tip soaked in pipe sweetner or
Everclear (grain alcohol). Petersons are made for convenience, but
they must be cared for. -S. ]


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From: zack <???????????????????>
Subject: The buffalo

i don't know if this shop is already on the pipes digest resource list, 
but it bears saying that Buffalo Tobacco Traders of grand rapids michigan 
has won this years Townie award for best tobacconist in the city of grand 
rapids.

the owner bob weronka keeps a nice shop and seems a very amiable guy, 
especially for putting up with some of my ignorance at various nuances of 
pipe smoking.

so formally the address is:
	Buffalo Tobacco Traders
	952 East Fulton Street
	Grand Rapids, MI  49503
  	Ph# 616.451.8090

also, i (foolishly) bought two ounces of a cherry aromatic that smokes 
far too wet for my taste.  can anyone recommend a mild, drier blend to 
mix with it?  a vanilla perhaps or otherwise?

thanks,

zack
gust-of-sun
   \|/
   -O-
   /|\

[ It's in the Guide now, Zack!  Thanks! -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: Change of e-mail address

Steve,

  Note that I (J. Galloway Co., and PIPE FRIENDLY magazine) have changed 
e-mail addresses.  The aol account wll remain open only until early May.

  Please change your records and PF's resource guide information.

  BTW - The next issue of PIPE FRIENDLY is scheduled to be mailed by May 
2 or 3.  Hope you enjoy it.

  Thanks again for your fine efforts.

Until later... smoke well,
Joel Farr
PIPE FRIENDLY magazine
?????????????????????

[ Change noted, Joel! -S. ]


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From: MarkH <?????????????????>
Subject: Penninsula Pipe Club - first meeting

Steve - 

I thought you might be able to include this in your next mailing

Regards,

Mark

============================================================================

                      The Peninsula Pipe Club

The Peninsula Pipe Club (PPC) meets on the first Sunday of the month
at the British Bankers Club (BBC), at 2:00 P.M.  

The BBC is located at El Camino and Santa Cruz, in Menlo Park (right
next to Kepplers Books).

The meeting will either be inside and upstairs, or outside, depending
on weather and the preferences of those who show up.

The PPC is an informal organization that has no charter, officers,
agenda, or dues. Just good fellowship, useful information, stimulating
pipe and tobacco discussion, and the occasional pipe trade. Plus, the
BBC will be happy to sell you a beer.

(the FIRST MEETING is May 5. I have no idea how many people will show
up)

--- also ---

The Greater Bay Area Pipe Club meets on the third Sunday at Schmidt's
Pub, 1492 Solano Ave. (near Santa Fe), in Albany.

----------

And... for those of you who insist... It IS the PPC at the BBC. Don't
forget it....
====================================================
?????????????????
====================================================

[ Good luck with the club, Mark, and please keep us appraised! -S. ]


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From: Enrico Schiattarella <???????????????????????>
Subject: Old Tobaccos

Hi Steve,
Enrico speaking, from Italy.
I've got a question for you (and for all the other readers, of course):
Few days ago I've been given by a friend of mine some very very old tobacco.
There are three different types,two of them contained in a pouch and the other 
in a metal box. They should be about 10 or 12 years old. Since this kinds of
tobacco are totally new to me, I would like to try to smoke them even if
they are very dry. What would you suggest me to make them "smokable" again ??

If you want to include this message in the next PD, it's o.k., but if you
have a personal answer, please send it to me before, if it's possible.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO TRYING THEM !!!!

Thank you very very very much ....

Bye, bye ...

Enrico Schiattarella <???????????????????????>

[ Try the following: Make a concentrated solution of salt water.  Seal
the old tobacco in an airtight container with the salt water. The salt
water should not touch the tobacco. Wait a few weeks.

If that doesn't work, dip your fingers into some fresh water and
sprinkle a little on the tobacco.  Seal it in an airtight container.
Wait a few days and repeat as needed. Be very careful not to crumble
the tobacco. -S. ]


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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #215 -- April 29, 1996
  2. Subject: Sail
  3. Subject: Pipes Digest submission...
  4. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #214 -- April 14, 1996
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #214 -- April 14, 1996
  6. Subject: PD submission
  7. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #214 -- April 14, 1996
  8. Subject: Web page update
  9. Subject: Use of Pipes Digest mailing list in violation of copyright
  10. Subject: Use of Pipes Digest mailing list in violation of copyright
  11. Subject: New Establishment in Dallas
  12. Subject: pipes digest.
  13. Subject: How It All Began
  14. Subject: Thanks for adding me to the list
  15. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #214 -- April 14, 1996
  16. Subject: tinderbox and dings
  17. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #214 -- April 14, 1996
  18. Subject: A Question regarding tobacco types
  19. Subject: Condor etc.
  20. Subject: Resource Guide update.
  21. Subject: Dallas PCI Show.
  22. Subject: Long Overdue Intro
  23. Subject: Pipes Digest
  24. Subject: Yet another literary item for the Digest
  25. Subject: Re: New Pipe Break in Syndrome ? (NPBS)
  26. Subject: The buffalo
  27. Subject: Change of e-mail address
  28. Subject: Penninsula Pipe Club - first meeting
  29. Subject: Old Tobaccos
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