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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996

		  Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996
   Copyright (C) 1996 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 2275

Welcome to new members:

	Don Iams
	Steven Frank
	George Gombossy
	Brad Burgess
	Robert D. Kelsey
	Alan L. Berman
	Cevin D. Kehm
	Christopher Harper
	Charl Conradie
	Dennis Yaremich
	Mitchell Lawrence Reid
	Neil And Karen Garra
	Vicens Lozano
	Steve Eagle
	Mike Bardzinski
	Bob Fine
	Jack Temkin
	Damian Cruz
	Grant S. Porter
	Rhys Sherman
	Issandr Elamrani
	Matthew Kuter
	Jerry Daniels
	Samuel Freund
	Mark J. Weinberg
	Gary Barton
	Tom Pfaeffle
	Mike Hungerford
	Kevin D. Knerr Sr.
	William W. Fisher
	Michael Padwee
	Ed Faerman
	Christian McDonald
	Mark Maus
	Scott R. Mutschink
	Gary J. Massaglia
	Robert M. Carnochan
	Prof. Mike Stutzer
	Wayne D. Mcpherson
	Matthew Shirley
	Matthew C. Senecal
	Theo Cuijpers
	Eric D. Brown
	Robert Cartwright
	John P. Withers
	Robt. E. Starkie
	Brandon M. Hughes
	Alan Barfield
	Justin Wiley
	Eric C. Shotwell
	Glenn Wylie
	Pedro Miguel Lamet
	Mick Martin
	Nikos Levin / Nml Pipes Direct
	Andrew Oakford
	Steve Wright
	Alton R. Martin
	Don S. Gibson
	Gerd A. Folberth
	Paul Parsley Jr.
	Robin Humble
	Joseph Patrick
	David Bridenbaugh
	Deona Thompson
	Jim Finnegan
	Michael DeVault
	Jeffrey J Jackson
	Bernard Gutman
	Douglas L. Mitchell
	Abe Ruiz
	Mark D. Weber
	Jack Anderson
	John C. Thompson
	John Hamers
	Charles Rickey West
	Bruce Norville
	Jim Mitchell
	John Tesoriero
	Rene. Albert D'Amico
	Chris Rossomondo
	Richard Lis
	J. Worth Kilcrease
	Paul M. Rice
	Fernando Ortega
	Henry B. Cohen
	Keith Staman
	Marc Reckinger
	Warren F. Whitby Iii
	Terry Morris
	Eric Riehl
	Caryll Camp-Meneely
	Tan Keng Chow
	Serhat Azizlerli
	Kent Smith
	Peter Page
	Carrie Norton
	Runar Berntsen
	Jack A. Ehrmantraut
	Ken Books

I recognize a couple of these names!

[ADMIN] Despite Steve Beaty's and my best efforts to prevent it, I've
gotten more member complaints about email spamming by Cigar Trading
Lda.  Since I've received no response to my letters to the postmaster
at Cigar Trading's site, I must also assume that the site is
rogue. I'll iterate: if you don't like unsolicited commercial junk
email, don't buy from Cigar Trading Lda.

And now, to the mails, over which I've been procrastinating for _far_
too long, and which do contain far better things!  

Interestingly enough, I'm finding more and more that someone asks a
question in the same issue in which, as it happens, someone else has
given the answer!  Coincidence... or fate?  You decide!

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From: John Perry <?????????????????>
Subject: thanks for the subscription!

        I've been an on-again, off-again subscriber to the Pipe Digest for
several years, and was recently re-added to the list.  It is a consistently
enjoyable and informative read on a very interesting topic.  Thank you
tremendously for doing such an excellent job!

        Wonderful things happen sometimes if you smoke a pipe.
        A couple of years ago I met a young lady while I was volunteering
for a local non-profit.  I thought she was attractive but when she told me
the smell of my pipe smoke reminded her of her grandfather, I doubted there
was much chance of a future with her.
        Time passed, and things happened.  I married her in the fall, and we
are now expecting a baby boy in July.
        I should be asking for recommendations about good cigars.  (-:
John Perry        | phone: 810-442-8540 x119  | Trinary Systems Inc.
????????????????? | fax:   810-442-9125       | Customer Service

[ It's always great to hear of experiences like yours.
Congratulations, and best wishes, John -- or should I say Dad! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????

Dear Steve,

     Being a new subscriber, I don't know if this has already been done.  I
think it may be of interest to others, exactly what your subscribers
demographics are.  List things like:
age, education, marital status, tobacco/pipe preference, etc.  I have read
several letters from some of the younger pipe smokers that are suprised that
other young men share our interests.  i believe a poll would reveal quite a
diverse grou of men (and even ladies).  I understand that this may be of some
undertaking, but it's something to think about!?!?

                                            Thanks for a Great Digest,
                                            Trace H. Eggers 

[ Two other letters on the Digest format follow. -S. ]

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From: Jostein Rolstad <????????????????>
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #216, Spencer's post

Hello Steve and Fellow pipesmokers!

In Pipes Digest #216 Spencer Martin wrote a comment about the new Pipes
Digest strategy regarding email adresses of the new subscribers.
I totally agree with Spencer. Reading the new subscribers list to see
where people actally come from, is a most enjoyable start on reading the
I understand the problem that email adresses are used by companys to send
out junk mail. But I would still like it, if at least the domain
(.no,.uk,.com or .whatever) was left outside the subscriber. 
And as far as I now, the domains that end in a .com .edu .org an the like
are US adresses. All other countrys have the country domain name as the
last in the adress. This may not be true for all adresses, but I think in
the majority this is the case.
Just my opinion.

Keep up the good work Steve! 

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*               email: ????????????????                *  
*             http://www.unik.no/~josteinr             * 
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From: Adamm Ferrier <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #216 -- May 11, 1996

>[ Well, a lot of addresses (for instance, "???????????????") don't
>carry much geographic or demographic info.  Of course, I guess I could
>leave the domain names on and strip the userids. Does anyone else have
>strong leanings about this? -S. ]

Yessirree!  Living in the wilds of Australia (Melbourne!!!) it is VERY
interesting to see where members come from... particularly if there is
someone living close by to get in contact with.  If it is possible, please
include the country of origin.

Adamm Ferrier  - Australia Music Edition, Computer  Music Typesetter
                        PO BOX 1099, WINDSOR 3181
                    AUSTRALIA.  Phone: (61-3) 9525 2660                     

[ Actually, Adamm, despite your and Jostein's support, I've had second
thoughts about doing even this.  I actually had modified the software
to do this, then disabled the feature.  In addition to the concerns
I've given already, addresses can be mined through fingering, given
just the person's full name and domain.  

Of course, anyone can include geographical details in his or her
posting.  And perhaps someday I'll work out a reasonable way to keep
this info around from the subscriptions, when it's sent. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????? (David E. Brown)
Subject: intro,1 question

[ Some editing done at David's request. -S. ]


  First to introduce myself...I am a student who has smoked cigars for
only about 6 months and pipes for only 2-3.  As you can see I am
really new.

   One question for all the great people out there-Does anyone know of
a good tobacco shop in the Oklahoma City area?

                                                 Thanks in advance,

[ The Guide yields only Bill's Pipe Repair, from PD #208. Welcome to
the hobby, David! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: pipe question and change of address!

Hi Steve!

I would just like to say what a great job that you do on the digest.  

I am a college student about 20 years old who enjoys a pipe greatly.  I have
been smoking for about (in 11 days) two years.  I have a quite modest
collection with a few great pieces (2 of the five being dunhills, a peterson
captian pete, nording, and a stanwell).  I also am in a unique situation of
which not many of your readers can say, I work in a tobacco shop during the
summers and Christmas break, The Tinder Box of Winston-Salem.  I have worked
there going on my fourth year.  It is a great place to work.  Where else is a
person encourged to smoke offten as possible  

I have suffered the strange looks that accompany a young pipe smoker. I once
thought a older gentleman (60+or-) was going to walk off a set of steps and
fall because he was looking so intently.  Some people think it is stupid,
others think that "he just does it to get attention", but many of my friends
are quite interested in learning more and trying it from time to time.  We
sometimes have a classic example of the peacepipe image going around the room
sharing to delicate leaf.

The main reason for writing is the fact that I am now at home and wish to
continue to recive the digest.  My address was ??????????????????????????? .
That has now changed to ?????????????????? .  (This address is one that is a
little form of rebellian, I forgot to mention that I attend Appalachian State
University in Boone, NC.  Several years ago they had a mountian man as their
mascot, which incleded a pipe, a wiskey jug and a gun, but they decided that
he should become PC.  The end result was the man with no pipe, no jug and no
gun.  His name is Yosef, therefore Yosefsmoke(s) is a great form of protest.)
 I would appreciate the changing.

Number 2 reason for writing:
Thursday, I am traveling to Washington, D.C.  I was wondering if there are
any great pipe/tobacco shops around that area that I should add to the trip?

Thanks so much!  Keep puffing!  ~~

Jason W. Harvey            

[ John B. Hayes, in Fairfax, VA, is not to be missed.  Dr. John
Weinstein at the Capital Area Pipe Smokers (CAPS) would have other
suggestions, I'm sure; he's in the Guide.  And thanks for keeping
Yosef politically incorrect and happy! -S. ]

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From: Phil Glatz <??????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #216 -- May 11, 1996

Hi Steve-

[Administrativa deleted. -S. ]

I would have liked to register the domain name "cohiba.com", but it was
already taken!  I wonder how many other famous brands are registered as
domain names?

Thanks for running such an informative and entertaining list.  I would'nt
mind you spinning off a cigars-only list, as I'm not interested much in pipe
smoking (although I find much of the pipe information to be fascinating).
The problem I see with the current format is the sheer size of the list; I
don't like it when a transmission is broken into two parts.  I'm guessing
you do this because some recipients can't handle messages over a certain
size.  So I vote for two lists, one for cigars and the other for pipes;
interested parties could subscribe to both.

regards, Phil Glatz
Phil Glatz                (??????????????)
Software Engineer       Lake Tahoe, Nevada
World wide web:       http://www.glatz.com
also ????????????????????????
Voice 702/831-8064        Fax 702/831-9720

[ Thanks for your comments, Phil. I send the mailings out as one part;
perhaps it's your local mailer that's breaking them into two.  And re
the separate cigar list, as I've said before, anyone who wants to run
it is welcome to do so.  But like half of civilization, I don't have
the time!  -S. ]

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From: John Tolle <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: GBD & Charatan Books

I am in the process of writing books on GBDs and Charatans and would
appreciate members assistance in obtaining any copies of old literature
concerning styles, numbers, models, and grades. The books will be
illustrated and contain this information as well as photos, in addition to
other information on the pipes. I am also taking photos of pipes, so if
any members would like to possibly have some of their collection included,
please contact me. I will of course give full credit for the photos, if
desired, and also return any literature. Thanks in advance for your
assitance and that of any others.

[ Please let us know when it comes out, John! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????? (Jeff Friedman)
Subject: Smokeless Cigarettes


With reference to GideonH's post last issue about smokeless cigarettes,
there were a few items I thought might clear the smoke about this
particular product.

The cigarettes, named "Premier" and developed by RJR/Nabisco (R. J.
Reynolds), never formally came to market.  Development costs were in
excess of $200 million.  There were a number of concerns, including the
"safer cigarette" problem.  Foremost was the quality.  They were never
well-liked, but when lit with sulfur matches the resulting odor and taste
was best described by James Garner in the movie "Barbarians at the Gate":

"Dammit, these things taste like sh*t and smell like a fart!  Well, that'll
make a great billboard slogan!"

The movie, which covers the RJR/Nabisco LBO battle between Ross Johnson
(the CEO portrayed by Garner) and KKR, is well worth renting for both
entertainment value and a reasonably accurate description of the sad
history of Premier.  Premier played a major role in the outcome of the

However, the cigarette was never officially reviewed by any government
agency (as far as I know) and threatened to be classified as a drug.  This
idea is far more recent than the Premier (late '80s).

I hope this isn't too far off topic.
Jeff Friedman '96
Master of Management in Manufacturing
Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois

[ Follow-up:  I caught a news item a few nights ago that said that RJR
was giving it a second try. -S. ]

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From: "Don S. Johnson" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest #216 -- May

In PD #216, Steve Carney was looking for a pipe case for several large pipes. 
I solved this problem for myself in an amazingly inexpensive way. Found a 
padded shaving kit which holds 6 pipes nicely (though loose they don't rattle 
or bang around; if they did, some "bubble wrap" would keep them from knocking 
together). The kit fits a briefcase and cost all of $2.50 in a discount 
store. Best of all, it's washable. Small side compartment is great for 
 Don S. Johnson
 The Online "How-To" Guide of Computer Graphics and Desktop Video

[ Sounds like it'd work; for another solution, see below. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: mailto:????????????????????????

Steve- in last week's edition someone was asking about devices for
safely transporting pipes while travelling.  I came up with what for
me has been a very satisfactory solution: pistol cases.  These are
available in several sizes, from ones to hold a single pistol up to
ones to hold three or four.  Inside the cases have a very thick layer
of foam rubber in a sort of undulating hill and valley pattern that
can shape itself to what ever is enclosed.  The exterior is very tough
high impact plastic which is nigh on to indestructible.  I bought a
single pistol case at the hallowed home base store of Cabelas, the
huge mailorder sports and hunting outfitters.  This one comfortably
holds four standard size straight pipes, more could fit if the pipes
were on the smallish side.  Two big advantages: pipes of virtually any
shape can be accomodated, and the cases themselves are CHEAP.  For me,
a perfect solution- once inside this case and latched shut, nothing
will budge no matter how the !  case itself gets knocked around.

[ But can you take your pipes aboard an airplane? :-) -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: New member bio


Have been reading the digest for a couple of months now and I thoroughly
enjoy every issue. I thought it about time to stop being a passive reader and
contribute something of my own.  So, here is my new member bio.

My name is Steve Hahn, I am 38 years old and have been smoking a pipe for 1
year now.  I am a reformed cigarette smoker and my lungs are happy to say
that I have not smoked a cigarette since I took up the pipe.  I took to pipe
smoking very easily (no major problems) and really enjoy my new hobby.

My father smoked a pipe years ago and he was a good source of information to
get me started.  I own two pipes now.  A Charatan Trafalgar - nice and light,
cool smoking with a beautiful cross-grain.  I really enjoy this pipe.  My
second pipe is only 2 months old.  It is  an Aldo Velani sandblast with a
very slight bend.  A bit heavy but smokes beautifully.  I usually smoke the
Charatan on my way to work (I have a one hour commute) since it is lighter
and easier to handle in the car.  My Velani I save for home where holding it
in my jaw is not imperative.

As far as tobacco, I started with aromatics and have moved to English blends.
 I don't like the wet nature of the aromatics.  A new friend (made at the
Port Royal shop in Toledo, OH) introduced me to Balkan Sobranie.  I simply
can't get enough of this right now but I know this will change.  I also enjoy
Dunhill's My Mixture #???.  Maybe some of your readers could suggest
something I might enjoy since they now know my taste.  I have been going
through the back issues at a lesiurely pace and came across a tobacco
description of a blend called "Midnight".  Either the writer was a
reincarnated Hemingway, or this is truly an exquisite blend!!  He made it
sound delicious, and I would love to try it.  Anyway, I can not find the back
issue.  Hopefully whoever wrote the description will contact me and tell me
how to find it.  Or anyone else for that matter.

Thanks again for the terrific job you do with the digest.  Hope to write
again sometime.  Peace

Steve Hahn

[ Perhaps the ? is 965?  Thanks, and welcome! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????????????
Subject:  Pipes Digest #216 -- May 11, 1996 -Reply

** For Your Eyes Only **** High Priority **** Reply Requested When 
Convenient ** 


[ Later correspondence made it clear that this was indeed for
publication, despite the "Eyes Only" notice! -S. ]

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From: "N.A. Goldberg S9552197" <??????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest and Pipse Survey

Steve, I mailed you a letter for inclusion in Pipes Digest, which asked for 
pipe smokers who were willing to answer questions about their pipe smoking 
to email me.  A good number of Pipes Digests did Email me and I have been 
trying to reply to them all, however, I have only been able to get in 
contact with a few of them, as I could not gain their addresses.   I was 
wondering if you could include the following in the next 

Could all the Pipes Digest subscribers who wrote to me in response to my 
letter in Pipes Digest 215 please contact me again and give me their email 
addresses.  Without this, I will be unable to send the questions to them.

Contact  N Goldberg    ??????????????????

     Nick Goldberg

[ Done! -S. ]

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From: Tim Ramsay <??????????????????????????????>
Subject: aromatic vs. English/Virginia

Hi there, Steve and fellow pipesters.  I'm just taking a few lines here 
to jot down some reflections on aromatic pipe tobaccos inspired by a 
freshly opened can of McLintock tobak.  When I started pipe-smoking I was 
steered, both by my local tobacconist and by my preconceptions of what 
pipe tobacco was supposed to smell like, firmly towards what I later 
learned to call aromatics.  In fact, for at least the first year of my 
smoking career, I thought all pipe tobacco was supposed to smell sweet 
and fruity and the sweeter and fruitier the better.  
	My first experience with the English blends came through Blatter 
and Blatter in Montreal, an excellent tobacconist/pipe-maker in Montreal 
whose name has already appeared many times in this digest.  Anyway, I 
tried one of their own English-style blends (I can't even remember which 
one), and for the first time experienced the true, unaldulterated flavour 
of fine tobacco.  
	Within a couple of months, I had completely abandoned the many 
aromatic blends which I had come to love, in favour of such ambrosia as 
Red Rapparee, St. Bruno's Flake, Dunhill's My Mixture, anything from 
Blatter and Blatter, and indeed virtually anything that comes in a can 
labelled "Made in England".  I am ashamed to say that I even became 
somewhat of a snob.  I thought of aromatics as artificial-tasting, 
glycol-laden, soggy-smoking crap.  They were universally made of inferior 
flavourless tobacco and, while the ladies seemed to prefer those who 
smoked them, a true pipe-smoker wouldn't touch an aromatic blend with a 
ten-foot pipe-cleaner.  I actually went so far as to feel real pity for 
those around me who could not appreciate the complexities of a matured 
virginia or an English blend with enough Smyrna and Latakia to clear a 
garden party.
	To get to the point, let me say that I have now modified, if not 
quite changed, my tune.  Out of curiosity, I just bought a can of a blend 
called "Blanc de Blancs" by a German company by the name of McLintock 
(sound German to you?).  Let me quote from the label:

	"...a mixture based on the best tobacco grades growing in the 
	U.S.A. regions of South Carolina, the East and Middle Belt, and 
	Georgia- with a pinch of Turkish Izmir for spice.  But the mystery 
	of the blend is in its flavour: Selected exotic and Frech Provence 
	herbes soaked with Dry Champagne- well aged in wooden casks until..."

	Well, suffice it to say that here is an aromatic that I like.  It 
has no glycol whatsoever, as far as I can tell, it has a wonderful winey 
aroma (the herbes (sic) are pretty understated) that you can smell all 
the way across the room from the open can, and it tastes great.  The 
flavour is mild, but very good.  It is clear that if this tobacco had 
been aged equally without the flavouring, it would still be excellent.  I 
guess McLIntock has a number of other blends and I would love to sample 
them as well.  If anyone out there knows the other blends, or simply 
shares my taste for English/Virginia blends and would like to compare 
notes, I'd appreciate an e-mail: ???????????????????????????????
					Yours with smoke,
						Tim Ramsay

[ Do any of our members in retail carry McLintock "Blanc de Blancs"? -S. ]

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From: Sebastien Canevet <????????????????>
Subject: (no subject)

Hello Steve,

The url adress of my pipomania web page has changed :

My old provider was going bankrupt, so ....

Have a good smocking

Au revoir,

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From: Scott Steiner <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #216 -- May 11, 1996

Hi Steve and fellow digest members,

My dad recently returned from a trip to Costa Rica and brought back, as a 
present to me, a very interesting sort of pipe.  I've been smoking for 
three years, and while I like to think I know something about pipes, 
tobacco, and smoking I must confess I've never seen a pipe like the one 
my dad bought me down there.  Let me describe it.  Naturally I invite any 
commentary from my fellow pipe smokers:

It is one solid piece of wood, there is no removable stem.  I am 
confident that it is not briar, maybe its teak, but again, I don't know 
if one can make a pipe from teak.  It has a very extreme curve, with the 
bowl being @ 4 inches beneath the bit.  It is a deep red color, but let me 
add that I have some "red" briar pipes and this Costa Rican one is a 
different shade entirely.  It smokes very well, but I must confess a need 
for added agility with my mouth, since the bit is wooden, and part of the 
whole pipe itself.  Additionally, I find myself having to exercise a 
degree of caution when cleaning it for fear of lodging the pipe cleaner 
in the pipe for all time.  At any rate, I was just curious, as this pipe 
is itself very curious.  As always, happy smoking!

Irvine, California

[ Interesting... -S. ]

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From: Christopher Wilkins <??????????????????????>
Subject: Coumarin aka Warfarin

Hi Steve..

This is my first letter to the digest - and may I say what a pleasure it is
to read...

Re Coumarin.
I suppose that this should come from one of our knowledgeable medical
friends but I will stick my nose in for what it is worth regarding
coumarin/Warfarin, so that anyone confronted with this as a reason for not
smoking a pipe has some ammunition to shoot it down.

Warfarin is a commonly used rat poison -I am not certain but I believe it
works by thinning the blood in the animal concerned and by causing
hypothermia. Rats or mice so treated become slowed down, and usually die of
cold.( I can vouch for this - I used to work in an agricultural/garden store
where it was used). There may be other ways in which it kills, but in cold
England this is mainly what happens. The dose however, is massive, for the
size of the creature.

If warfarin does exist in pipesmoke so what? It is commonly used,  commonly
used to treat heart conditions and probably counters the effect of nicotine,
which constricts of blood vessels.... but by how much? The amount of the
chemical is probably far less significant to our general health than the
pollutants from Petrol/Diesel engines or residual radiation - or even the
chemical pollution in our daily diet due to pesticides/herbicides.

As  a side issue... I used to have a cat which developed  locked joints
(ankylosing spondylitis (spelling?):-)) through eating to much vitamin D in
Liver, and I am told by a hospital dietician that too much vitamin C can
cause kidney stones.. Should there be a campain for the banning of Liver or
Citrus fruits and potatoes? And what about the onion? - that would be banned
if it were introduced now. 

Why can't these people leave us to make our own judgement?


Chris Wilkins 
Christopher and Valerie Wilkins
Derby, England

"Pipedreams are the treasured memories of quiet moments" Chris Wilkins 1995/6

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From: Duane Campbell <??????????????>
Subject: Smoking Rat Poison

Steve --

I don't know whether there is rat poison in pipe tobacco, and furthermore I 
don't care. Just as I don't care that there are deadly poisons, including 
arsenic, occurring naturally in most of the vegetables I eat (people have 
actually died from an overdose of potatoes) or that the medicines I take are 
toxic (aspirin, a blood thinner, works much like rat poison). Things we take 
for granted are lethal compounds: the caffeine in coffee and theobromine in 
chocolate. Even the vaunted herbal remedies contain toxins and carcinogens 
(pennyroyal and comfrey come to mind) that would not be tolerated if a factory 
put them there.

It is an axiom of toxicologists that "the dose makes the poison" Many 
compounds, natural and manufactured, that are deadly at one dosage are 
harmless or even beneficial at low doses. So if there's rat poison in my 
tobacco, I'm not going to worry about it until I hear stories of pipe smokers 
crawling off into the walls and bleeding to death.

Duane Campbell

In the beginning the Earth was without form and void.
Why didn't they leave well enough alone?

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From: "John A. Landry" <???????????????????>
Subject: Tongue Bite verses Peppery Taste

[In Pipes Digest #216 I said...]

> 2.  Many of the cavendish tobaccos I've tried impart a stinging or
> bitter sensation on the back of my tongue and throat, especially when
> smoked heavily.  Which tobacco leaf actually causes this effect?  I
> suspect maybe some sort of Virginia tobacco, because some of the
> blends which exhibit this boast flavorings with a Virginia base.  The
> Blatter Reserve I like so much gives no such problem.  Blatter Reserve
> is a very dark color... does this mean it lacks Virginia?  I don't
> like this "peppery" sensation and would like to know which tobacco I
> need steer clear of to avoid it.

[Steve responded...]

> I don't think the type of tobacco has as much to do with bite as
> its proper humidity, its packing in the bowl, and your smoking style.  Pay
> attention to these and you'll learn the fine points.  To some extent, other
> substances might make a bite worse (for me, these include mint toothpaste or
> vinegar) or lessen the chance of getting bitten (sweet drinks like wine or
> iced tea seem to help.)  I'd also advise you never to smoke with a bitten
> tongue.  

> Also see the next article re bite; it's very interesting! -S.

I think you may have misunderstood my question Steve.

The "stinging" effect that I get on the *back* of my tongue is not what I
think you mean by tongue bite.  Isn't tongue bite the almost burning, 
soreness or scalded feeling one gets on the middle or front of the tongue 
caused by (what the article from Charles Basso in PD #116) smoke chemistry?  
I'm sure that the effect I feel is also caused by smoke chemistry, but I only 
feel it when I swallow during smoking.  It's like I swallowed something 

With tobacco blends that cause this, the effect gets more pronounced the
farther down the bowl of tobacco is smoked... sometimes to the point that I
can't stand to finish the bowl.  I thought you mentioned once in the Pipe
Digest that you sometimes only smoke a bowl of tobacco half way down because
the taste becomes increasingly harsh.  Maybe I'm talking about the same
thing when I describe the peppery feeling.  This taste doesn't linger after
ceasing smoking like tongue bite.

When this effect happens, I can take a sip of coffee or water and that seems
to wash the taste away temporarily.  It's very unpleasant, and while I
sometimes like the initial taste of certain blends that cause this problem,
by the time I'm 2/3 through the bowl I get disgusted with it.

Even though I'm a newbie at this, it seems logical to me that a certain
tobacco is directly responsible for this.  I notice it predominantly with
certain cavendish blends.  I just finished a bowl of C&D's "Dark Chocolate"
and it causes this.  In contrast, I have gotten what I think you mean by
tongue bite from medium and heavy English blends *without* getting the
"peppery" taste on the very back of my tongue when swallowing during

I'm just wondering if anyone else who reads the Pipes Digest experiences what 
I'm describing, or is it just me?

Take care,


[ Sorry for the misunderstanding, John; I believe that cigar smokers
sometimes get this too. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????

Dear Steve,
As I understand it, subscribers to Pipe Digest are allowed one commercial
Below is my commercial. I would appreciate having it included in the next
Thank you in advance.
Al Baier

                       CARVE YOURSELF A BRIAR PIPE

Vermont pipe maker, Al Baier, is offering a series of two-day briar pipe
carving workshops in his Manchester, Vermont, studio during July and August
1996. The dates are: July 4 and 5, July 11 and 12, July 18 and 19, July 25
and 26; August 1 and 2, August 8 and 9, August 15 and 16, August 22 and 23,
August 29 and 30. Workshops are limited to two participants per two-day
workshop. No previous experience is required. Each participant, under the
direction of Al Baier, will make a briar pipe from a Grecian plateaux briar
block with a vulcanite stem. All tools will be provided. The cost of the
two-day workshop is $350.00 and includes two nights lodging in the Biar's
guest rooms plus continental breakfasts. Spouses of participants are invited
at no additional cost.

Manchester and the Mountains, one of the most beautiful areas of Vermont, is
located in the southwest area of the Green Mountain State and offers a
variety of cultural and recreational resources including the finast designer
company outlet stores in the Country.

For registration form and a complete workshop seminar package 'phone (802)
362-3371, write to Al Baier Studio, Butternut Lane, P.O. Box 2043, Manchester
Center, VT 05255, or e-mail request for information to ??????????????????

[ What an excellent idea, Art!  I hope you do well with it. And if you
do this again next year, please feel free to announce it then. -S. ]

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From: John Johnston <????????????????????>
Subject: Carvers - Pipe and All

Hi Steve,

     For sometime now, Mike Dunk and I have been working to have 
a carving news group established.  We have finally arrived at the 
voting stage of a fairly formal procedure. Although this is for all cavers,
I believe it would be a good place to help any pipe carvers (such as myself)
exchange ideas and info on pipes as well.

     Anyone interested in seeing the carving group get started should 
search through their news provider to find any of the following 

     Posted to these groups is a message entitled 
"CFV:rec.crafts.carving".  This message outlines the charters and 
reason for the group and details how you can place your vote.  Voting 
is a formal process and rules must be followed if the vote is to 
count.  The approval of the group depends on the voting numbers and 
the count can be a little complicated.  We need a minimum of 100 yes 
votes over any no votes and at least 2/3 of the votes must be yes 

Vol-un-teer-ism. The theory, act, or practice of being a volunteer or of
using volunteers in Community Service work. To give, or offer to give on
one's own free will.
Name:	John Johnston
Email:	????????????????????
URL:	www2.polarnet.com/~bearqst
FairNet	http://www.fairnet.org (Fairbank's Own)

[ I hope this isn't going out too late for the vote, John! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????? (David Ogershok )
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request

Thank you for including me in your mailing. If this is not the correct 
E-Mail address to sent a request or comment please let me know. I have 
a question for the general readership regarding the crafting of corncob 
pipes. Being a long term fan of the Missouri Meershaum (as well as 
other types of pipes) I have wanted to make them myself. The main 
question is, what is a good material with which to close the bottom of 
the cob cylinder? A plug of hardwood? A putty like material? Any 
suggestions would be welcomed. 
                                    Dave Ogershok

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From: Stephen Eagle <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request

Steve: I thought I would post you a thank you for the prompt return on my 
requests to be placed on  your lists.  I have no problem with the 
guidelines set out in your introductory letter, in fact it is 
exhilirating to join a civil - courteous group.  First started smoking a 
pipe in 1964, have been with it since that time.  I certainly hope that 
our experience together will be enlightening (pardon the pun).  At this 
moment I have a bowl of imported Dutch going, and wondering why this 
splendid experience of smoking a pipe is so misunderstood, but then the 
challenge of discovering new ideas, and tastes is what makes it all worth 
while.  Best of 73s my new friends---Steve Eagle. 

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From: "John A. Landry" <???????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Clay

I'm reading (or working) my way through the book "Alaska" by James A.
Michener and happened across the something interesting.  It's part of a
letter written to her home by a Russian princess living in Sitka about the
ceremony to transfer possession of Alaska from Russia to U.S. representatives.

  "Although we had already signified our intention of becoming American
  citizens, Arkady, as you would expect, wanted the farewell Russian
  performance carried out with proper dignity, as would befit the honor
  of a great empire.  He rehearsed our Russian soldiers with great care
  in the lowering of our flag and I helped mend torn uniforms and
  supervised the polishing of shoes.  I must say that our troops looked
  pipe-clay neat when Arkady and I were finished".

I assume that this refers to the bright white appearance of a clay pipe when
new or after being burned clean in a fireplace (as described in The Ultimate 
Pipe Book).

Best regards,


[ Also, back in the days of sailing ships, pipe clay was applied to
the ropes (or lines or halliards or hawsers or whatever) to whiten
them for special occasions. -S. ]

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From: Victor Reijs <???????????????????>
Subject: Provide your cigar tasting contributions!

Hello all of you,

Please provide your cigar tasting evaluation on my WWW pages (URL: 
http://www1.tip.nl/users/t755096/eng/sigeval.htm )

After your input, I make them available through my WWW pages again:

Thanks in advance in making the evaluation datbase bigger!!! 

All the best,


WWW Thuis pagina: http://www.tip.nl/users/victor.reijs/ned/
WWW Home page:    http://www.tip.nl/users/victor.reijs/eng/

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From: Ignacio Martin <???????????????????????>
Subject: First contact and presentation


Tks very much for your welcome msg and also for the first Digest
received last week.  First of all I must introduce myself, I'm 47
years old, cigarettes smoker for more than 30 years and fortunately
pipe smoker for two more and hope that for ever, also I must beg your
perdon for my bad english.  I tried to change to pipe several times in
the past but then there is not exist Internet, it's is not a joke !!.
With this easy way of comunication, I have found a lot of Web pages of
people that seems to be very happy with this "hobby"(?), "way of
life"(?)..., also I found very nice persons, I must mention here to
Kevin Cook for his kindest conseils and Craig Tarler for his kind
attention.  While I wait for sample packs from Cornell & Diehl, I am
trying some blends I can get in Canary Islands where I live, presently
I like very much "Gold Block" and Dunhill's "Early Morning" and
"London" also I like "Three Nuns" and "St.Bruno" but I still have not
a definive choice having in mind that I am smoking 8/9 pipes daily,
four of them chained.  I think that better blend to smoke chained,
within of blends tried, can be "Gold Block" but I would like to
receive from you any suggestion to permit increase my curiosity.  I
dont know if this will be my first input as well as my last one
because I can be accused for torturing you with my words from a
begginer and my awfull english, anyway I want to finish saying that
now I enjoy my smoke, I feel better and for first time I have found an
special pleasure in smoking and I dont want to come back to my 60
cigarettes per day.  Tks for your patient and best regards.  Ignacio

P.D. Any suggestion for a good aromatic ?

[ Have you tried McConnell's "Black and Gold?" It's nice for a change
once in a while. -S. ]

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From: "Mutschink, Scott Rusty" <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Re:  (no subject)

I don't know why you got a blank message, I don't think I sent anything to 
you other than my request for a subscription. Oh well, one of those computer 
things.  Thank you for offering such a wealth of information for those of us 
who enjoy the finer side of smoking.  It's enjoyable to read different 
experiences that people have with pipes and cigars.  Since I have you on the 
line, I have a question.  At my Tobacco Shop (Pipe World) and I found a 
collection of pipes made by a man, I believe in Pennsylvania, named Boswell. 
 They were really some nice pipes so I bought one and really enjoy it.  Do 
you know anything about these pipes or the maker?  Any Info would be 
appreciated.  Again, Thanks for the Digest.

[ From Mark Peterson's letter in PD #209 (and the Guide):
J.M. Boswell, 170 South Main St., Chambersburg, PA 17201. Phone: (717)
264-1711. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????? (James D. Mitchell)
Subject: Pipe Problem

Steve, I have a very nice pipt that has a small burnt spot in the 
bottom of the air hole. Should I stop smoking the pipe? Can this type 
of damage be repaired? The pipe has a small chamber and thick walls and 
could be drilled out, possible?

Can you advise or put me in touch someone that could advise or repair 
the pipe.

Best regards,

Jim Mitchell

[ As it so happens, Mark Tinksy (below) does repairs.  You could also
contact JT&D Cooke, who's listed in the Guide.  As far as I know,
burn-throughs can't be fixed (and it sounds like that's what you
have), but perhaps somebody knows how to do it properly. -S. ]

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From: ??????????? (Mark Tinsky)
Subject: New Web Site

Hi Steve
Would like to announce the openning of the American Smoking Pipe web site.
It can be found at http://AmSmoke.com I hope the readers will enjoy it. Any
comments they have I d appreciate. Its not completely done but there s at
least enough on there to get started.. I d apprecaite if you d link me with
your page . Thanx , MT

Mark Tinsky
HC-88 Box 223
30 Tall Oaks
Pocono Lake, PA. 18347
 web address:

[ I've been there, and it looks like a first-class job! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Seeking Primo Tobacco

Dear Friend; 
I am a new member and very much enjoy the newsletter. I submitted a query
with my subscription request, but perhaps it was lost in the processing.  
 As a relatively new smoker I am enjoying pipe smoking very much yet am
overwhelmed by the selections of tobacco. I have no desire to sample tin
after tin of mediocre leaf when I am certain that a thoroughbred of tobaccos
exists out there somewhere. Is there any hope for my plight? Could you drop a
few names as well as distributors that could accomidate me?
Currently I am smoking Esoterica by; J.F. Germain and Son. I enjoy it yet
wonder what other blenders have to offer.

-Matthew Shirley  (New ??????????????)

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From: "Carl Hurley" <?????????????????????>
Subject: dunhill pipes in England

Dear fellow pipe smokers,
	I will be making a trip to England next month and would like to know
were the best place to buy a Dunhill (other than Alfred Dunhill). I will be
staying in London so if anyone knows of a good place please let me know. Thank

Carl Hurley

[ As it so happens, see Glenn Wylie's letter, next! -S. ]

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From: Glenn Wylie <????????????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Thanks, Pipes Digest 

Hi there,
	Well, I just got my first Pipes Digest, and I'm very glad I
subscribed.  You ask for submissions, and I find that, indeed, I have
something to submit.  People seem to write about their first
pipe-smoking experience, and mine was pretty typical, it seems, so I'm
going to write about something else -- my visit to the Ashton pipe
	I recently came over to England to get a DPhil, and -- still
being fairly new to smoking -- I didn't know anything about Ashtons.
However, during the Christmas break, Bill Ashton came to the local
pipe-shop for a three-day exhibition.  I thought it sounded pretty
interesting, so I went along.  I arrived sometime around lunch-time,
and Bill was in the back eating.  However, as soon as he heard that I
was there to see him, he came out and shook my hand.  I didn't know
who he was -- I'd seen Ashton pipes, but I didn't know that THIS was
the fellow who started/owned the company (I just assumed that he did
the shows or something).  He asked if I had a pipe with me, and when I
produced one, he cleaned it up and advised me on how to get the most
out of it.  He was very personable, and I had no idea of his position
in his company until after I'd left and was looking at the business
card he'd given me.
	During the course of our conversation that day (or the next
day -- of course, I had to go back), he invited me to visit the
factory.  I was eager to take him up on his offer, and I did a couple
of weeks later.  I'd ordered a pipe from him when he was giving the
show, and the visit was a good time to collect it (like I needed an
excuse...).  He picked me up at the train station, and took me out to
the factory -- it's since moved, so this information is a bit out of
date, but when I visit the new factory, I'll send you an update.  He
showed me all the various stages that a chunk of briar goes through in
order to become an Ashton pipe.  He let me use the sand-blaster.  He
let me roam about and poke into corners and ask all my questions.  The
machines (lathes, etc.) he uses are, he told me, no longer made, but
are optimal for producing top-quality pipes.  The finishing work is
done at carrels of the sort used at the old Dunhill factory.  There
were pipes in all stages of completion on every flat surface, but he
could tell you exactly where the pipes for order N were.  It was
	Of course, I also got my pipe, and it's easily the best in my
(quite humble) collection.  I'm getting another as soon as I can.  The
technique he uses (and has patented) for curing the briar produces a
very nice smoke, and the stem -- made of a material he has patented as
well -- has all the qualities he attributed to it (strong without
being brittle -- much like vulcanite except that it doesn't discolor).
As you can tell, I'm sold on Ashtons and had better stop before this
note turns into an advertisement.
	Regards,  Glenn.

[ I read a nice piece on S&R Anderson recently (in Pipe Friendly?),
and they mentioned that they _had_ managed to get pipemaking machines
cast specially.  And then they had lots of fun learning how to set
them up and use them.  So it's not impossible; just difficult. Thanks! -S. ]

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From: Lee Gernes <?????????????????>
Subject: Movie Smoke question ...

Hi Steve,

Know where I can find out what types/brands of cigars were
smoked in the film "Smoke" starring William Hurt, etc.


Lee Gernes

[ Well, Schimmelpennicks, to start... and six thousand dollars worth
of Cubans that got humidified a bit too much :-( The movie's on video
now, so you could rent or buy a copy and freeze-frame it. -S. ]

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Web page (of course)


        a couple of quick thing on the web page.  1) i've added an index to
the end of all the digest and a pointer to it at the beginning.  may help
some people find specific articles they are interested in.  2) on the
removing of email addresses, i was thinking we could rip out the addresses
on the From: line only and leave those in the articles.  this would allow
people to choose for themselves whether their email address is in their
signature.  just a thought.  live well!

Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                 ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA        http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: trip report

Steve and all,

        well, i'm sitting in DaVinci, the Rome airport.  it's six in the
morning, and i didn't end up spending the night on a bench here, as i've
done before, but that's telling the end of story before the beginning.

        i'm on a two-week trip visiting Italy and India for a conference and
some HP work.  recently, Enzo Medici created a cool personal pipe-smoking
page at http://www.flashnet.it/medici/  we did a little corresponding, and
he graciously invited me to stop by if i was ever in Roma.  well, little did
he know that i had a trip planned in the next two weeks :-)  so, we met each
other in the airport one Sunday and he and his wonderful daughter and wife
took me to a great lunch and showed me around Roma a little.  i saw where
"Il Circolo della Pipa" (http://www.flashnet.it/medici/pipeclub.htm), the
Roma pipe club meets.  they have their own building!  i took a picture or
two of it, i may scan one of them in for the pipes page...  Enzo gave me a
copy of the Italian magazine "Smoking".  it's helped me with my rusty
Italian :-)  on the cover there are three beautiful pipes shown, a Dunhill,
a Savinelli, and the actual Castello that Enzo was smoking when he met me in
the airport.  235 of them were made and it's a nice pipe.  speaking of nice
pipes, Enzo has more than a few.  Dunhills, Ser Jacapos, Savinellis; you get
the idea...  beautiful, one and all.

        the president of Circolo della Pipa is Fausto Fincato and Enzo
maintains that he has the best pipe shop in Roma.  Fincato is already in the
resource guide, and Enzo would know the best.

        the food was great, the company was better (Enzo and his daughter
Annalisa speak wonderful English, much better than my Italiano).  Enzo then
gave me a pipe.  not just any pipe.  one that had been made especially for
him (his initials are on it).  unsmoked.  straight grained.  beautiful.  i
was beyond words, and truth is, still am.  i will always cherish this pipe.
i'll take some pictures of it and put them on the web page too.

        Enzo has a nice web page and a nice setup at home.  fast computer,
and a bigger monitor than i have :-)  he was very humble (umile, a new
Italiano word for me) about all that he did for me.  they put me on a train
for Napoli a very happy camper.  i was on the island of Ischia for five
days.  had a great La Gloria Cubana cigar while there.  paradise...  warm,
beautiful, and a good cigar to help commemorate the event.  gotta find a
place to get more of those cigars...  like i'm the only person looking...
had an A.F. short story two years ago on Ischia: it's good to take great
cigars for moments like those.

        back to reality.  i took the train back to Roma whereupon i missed
my flight to Delhi.  it was evening, there were no more planes for India
that night, and all the hotels were full :-(  could have been major sadness
if i hadn't had Enzo's cellular phone number.  i called him asking for help
in finding a place to stay for the night, and he insisted i stay with him.
the beautiful Annalisa gave up her room for the weary traveler, we had
another great meal, and i slept like a baby...  Enzo took me to the airport
early in the morning as the trains don't run that early (we're spoiled by
all the flights and transportation here in the States...)

        nothing to report from India.  not a big pipe-smoking place it appears.

        so the upshot of this rambling tome is: i am once again amazed how
nice pipe smokers can be.  i have memories from this trip that will last a
lifetime.  a public thanks to Enzo and his family.  i look forward to being
able to repay their kindness when they visit me!

        i'll be near Melbourne Australia the week of June 10; if anybody
wants to get together for a quick bowl, drop me a line!


[ Later... -S. ]

Steve and all,

        i've been playing with the web page some more.  i've added links at
the top to indices that don't have either the smoke trail background (for
those with monochrome monitors) or tables (for users with the AOL or older
Microsoft viewers).  also at the top are links to the major subsections of
the page.  i've also added a change of address form for updating the mailing
list when an email address changes.


Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                 ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA        http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/

[ Thanks for the travel report, Steve, and (as always) for the
award-winning Web site! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????????
Subject: I'd like to receive your Pipe Digest again.

Hi Steve,

You may remember me from Sparta Industries where I worked with Doug Allen at
the Pipe factory.  (Dr. Grabow Pipes)

I have moved to Kentucky and am working now at Fruit of the Loom World
Corporate Headquarters.

I've established an e-mail address and tested it thru the internet.  Now that
I'm settled in I'd like to start receiving your magazine again.   Before I
left Sparta Industries, I was informed that I had to UnInstall AOL at work.
(It was corporate policy from UST)  I still miss the pipe factory and the
tobacco industry in general.  They were a great bunch of people to work for;
and with.

Anyway, Please add my new e-mail address to your list again and keep me

Also:  Do you still send to Doug Allen?  He moved up to corporate office in
Connecticut on or around the first of the year.  I'd like his e-mail address
just to keep in touch - if you have it or can get it - and can send it to me.

If not - no problem, I'll call and get it sometime.

I'm looking forward to getting your magazine, It'll be almost like a visit
from an old friend.

Thanks very much!

Deona Thompson

[ Indeed I do remember you, Deona! Bill Unger
(???????????????????????????????) reported in PD #201 that Doug Allen
is a member of the OPC, so perhaps he could supply an address for
you.  Welcome back, and best of luck at Fruit of the Loom! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????????? (Gerd A. Folberth)
Subject: Got your massage

Hi Steve!

Just wanted to say that I received your massage. At the moment
I'm reading some of the older Pipes Digest articles, still
very interesting. 

Maybe I should tell you a little of myself: I'm a 27 year old
student from Austria (Graz, bigest town in Austria accept for
Vienna) and I smoke pipes for more then seven years now. In a
few month I will finish my masters degree and then probably go
for the PhD, both in theoretical physics. Besides smoking 
pipes I also enjoy good food (Italian, French) and sometimes
a real good cigar (Dunhill, Davidoff, ...). 

Enough for this time. Best wishes and a calm smoke from

    Gerd Folberth 


Gerd A. Folberth
Inst. f. Theoret. Phys.                Tel.  :    (+43) [316] 380 5253 (5229)
Karl-Franzens-Universitaet Graz        FAX   :      
Universitaetsplatz 5                   e-mail:    ?????????????????????????????
A-8010 Graz                            WWW   :    
Austria                                http://physik.kfunigraz.ac.at/~gaf/


Quid-quid id est timeo grammaticorum Austriacae Linguae reformationes et bona 
ferrentes sic denique censeo renascandum esse Carolum Crausum.
Quo-usque tandem abutere patientia mea, reformatores!! Sunt certi
denique fines. 

                                   O (O=O)

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From: JOSEPH MAXIMILLIAN MURPHY <???????????????>
Subject: Picking a good pipe shop

Some time ago, there was a discussion about the quality of service in
tobacco shops (and specifically, sexual discimination). I've been meaning to
send this note for quite some time to propose a response to that problem.

There's one place where you'll almost _never_ see women treated poorly because
they're women, and that's a store that employs women. Both of my favorite
tobacco stores employ women, and I've found them to be consistently helpful in
general. The lady who works (or worked, I haven't been in for a while) at the
Tinder Box in Rockville, MD was a real joy to talk to about pipe shapes and
bowl sizes, and lead to me buying one of my favorite pipes. (Unfortunately, I'm
not up on my terminology enough to describe it right, except that it's got a 
gentle bend, and at this time in my personal and financial life, I stick to
seconds... so you'll just have to take my word on it.)

Even better was the woman at Graybeards of London in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware.
She was a real pleasure to deal with last summer. One of the things I remember
best was that she was very helpful to my friends who don't smoke cigars
regularly enough to know what they want, while I walked in, grabbed some big
ring Macanudos and some loose tobacco, and stood around with a silly grin on my
face. I sure hope she's still aroudn this year, seeing as how it's time to
start making beach trips again.

Which reminds me that I made enough of a fixture of myself down there one week
last year that I qualified for a frequent-buyer's card, and I'd like to find 
it if I'm going to the beach next weekend. So I guess I'd better sign off and
start cleaning...

-Joe Murphy          "Censorship, like charity, should begin at home, but
???????????????       unlike charity, it should end there."
                           -- Clare Boothe Luce

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From: "Mark D. Weber" <???????????????????????????>
Subject: New member - Me!

Greetings and salutations,

I'm new here and thought I might introduce myself. I'm 38, married for  
10 years (almost), father of 2 children - Shannon is 4 years old, Ian  
is 14 months old. My dad smoked pipes and there are stories (all untrue  
of course :-}) that I bit through the stem of his favorite meershaum  
with my first tooth and that I used his pipes to blow bubbles and that  
when they were dirty I would wash them for him.

I smoked my first pipe in college (about 1977 or so) in self defense  
when my friends were smoking bongs (for those that don't know, a water  
pipe for the inhalation of cannibis). The burning rope smell (of the  
cannibis!) made me nausous. I don't recall what tobacco I smoked or  
even have the pipe anymore. I stopped smoking when it got too expensive  
for me!

I went back to the pipe in Swaziland in 1982 or so and collected a few  
pipes and smoked a blend from a tobacconist is Johannesberg and I  
cannot recall the name of either. It was an English mix similar to the  
C & D #531 Yale. The pipes, but not the tobacco, came back to the  
States and I switched to an cognac aromatic (no, not borkum riff) while  
in grad school with the occasional english mixture thrown in. I met my  
soon to be wife, who while she likes the aroma, cannot stand to kiss  
after I have been puffing. I will give you one guess what went. (I kept  
the pipes though.)

Almost 8 years had passed since I last smoked, when Ian was born. He  
is, shall we say, difficult. He was a gastric reflux baby and required  
full time care. I found myself getting more and more stressed out (I am  
the stay at home dad type as Holly makes a great deal of money as a phd  
chemist). I fondly recalled the days of relaxing pipe puffing and  
decided that maybe it would help. bought some borkum riff (my little  
town does not have a tobacconist). It did and didn't. The stress kept  
coming, I got a flyer from Thompson & Company and ordered some cigars  
(H Upmann and Hoyo de Monterrey) and remembered what I didn't like  
about cigars. Holly suggested I search the Web about pipe tobacco! I  
almost fell off my chair, but then she explained that cigars really  
tasted bad and brushing my teeth and lots of mouth wash did not help.  
Shannon agreed.

I found lots of stuff and here I am. I must say that I am quite  
impressed by the virtual community I have found. I orderd a Cornell &  
Diehl sampler pack from Craig with whom I enjoyed a few moments of  
pleasant converstion, dusted off my pipes and have been happily  
sampling the tobaccos. Shannon does not mind the pipes at all and Ian  
is absolutely fascinated by them. (I think I will keep them up high out  
of his reach just in case pipe use is genetic.....) I was quite pleased  
to discover that my fingers remembered how to pack a pipe. I wonder how  
long it will take to sample all of the C & D tobaccos?

Now I get to start looking for pipes and tobacco pouches and so on. The  
Digest has already helped. But I have discovered to my dismay that pipe  
prices have gone up and choices have become more limited, I am hoping  
the few mail order places listed the Digest will help. I saw one  
listing for a tobacconist in Little Rock, AR and will get there soon.  
Does anyone know of any others in Arkansas? I live in Batesville, and  
while driving to Memphis is an option, Little Rock is easier.

Well, I have probably bored you sill by now, I will puff a pipe and  
contemplate my navel.

May your pipe bowls always be full.

Mark D. Weber
OS/2 Warp - a real 32 bit operating system

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From: Philip Richards <?????????????????????????>
Subject: German Tobacco & Cigar Museum


Another entry for the Resources Guide...

Deutsches Tabak und Zigarrenmuseum,
Kreisheimatmuseum Striedecks Hof,
Funfhausenstrasse 8-12,
32257 Bunde,

Opens daily except Monday from 1000 to 1200 and 1500 to 1700, admission is free
of charge.

Bunde, a small town near Bielefeld, is centre of the Cigar manufacturing
industry and in recognition this museum was founded in 1937 and is part of a
museum complex in the town centre. Well worth a visit if in the area.

Philip Richards.

[ Entered in the Guide, Philip. Thanks! -S. ]

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From: Anthony Hicke <???????????????>
Subject: pipe smoking

As a new pipe smoker, I feel confused by the myriad of wonderful 
experiences that can be achieved while smoking a pipe.  I basically learn 
as I go, since my friends only smoke cigarettes, while I chose the more 
mature, and better smelling pipe.  I found your page and would like to be 
on your mailing list.  Thank you.

						Lee (????????????????)

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From: theo <?????????????>
Subject: First post...

Hello. I just resubscribed to the Pipe Digest after about a year away
from it and pipe smoking in general. It is very nice to be back among
a such fine group of people, I recall looking forward to issues in the
past and continue to find myself looking forward to new issues of the

Growing up I had always loved the smell of pipe smoke, and the magic
and process that goes along with smoking a pipe.  My first ill fated
attempt at pipe smoking was with a corncob pipe and very cheap drug
store cherry tobacco. A friend and I tried this and we were both ill
for a day afterward - no trouble keeping the pipe lit [and the pipe
did burn - along with the tobacco... :)]. This effectively paused my
pipe smoking, I have never smoked cigarettes with any kind of
regularity nor cigars - So, I took a few years off from smoking. Then
I happened to be living on campus in a dorm while at school - it was a
cold winter - and since my roommate moved out [of school and the dorm]
about Febuary I had the room to myself - I went to the [then] new pipe
store at the mall and bought a pipe from their "Seconds 25% Off"
basket, a small full bent with a small rounded bowl which continues to
be a good friend and walking companion. While I was there I picked up
a one of their house blends called Prestige [very possibly a Lane[?]
blend??]. At this point I had already discovered the online community
and FAQ - so I was able to light [and keep lit] the pipe and continue
from there. I ordered three heavily stained redish carved pipes via
the mail along with a Zippo Pipe lighter. Two of them are still
unsmoked and the third is smoked, but very occasionally - I don't
really like the bit as much as the bit on my main pipe and the bowl is
a larger too - but it also smokes very nicely. I also have a straight
Dr.Grabow which I used to hand to people when they asked if they could
have a puff of the tobac I was smoking as it smelled good.

About this time a member of the online pipe smoking community sent me
a handful of sample quantities of pipe tobacco - THANKS! - some of which
have become my favorites and I plan on ordering via mailorder as the local
shop doesn't doesn't carry them. These are: Rattray's Black Mallory, 
Cope's Escudo, Bengal Slices and Erinmore Flake. I would like to find a few
tins of Escudo for cellaring [and smoking now] if anyone has any
sitting on a shelf and doesn't want them anymore. :-) 

A tip that someone shared with me at one point was to feel free to mix
some blond burley with a stronger tobacco if I wanted a milder flavor -
I plan on picking up some blending tobaccos and blending my own.

Oh yes, a question, my main pipe has a bit that looks similar to a Peterson
but the smoke comes directly out the end of it instead of being directed 
towards the roof of your mouth - a very nice bit which I have not seen
since - anyone know what this kind of bit is called? I am looking for 
another pipe with a similar bit - I plan on trying a Peterson pipe over the
course of the summer. Also, I am looking for a nice pipe rack - I may 
wind up building my own as well as continuing to haunt antique stores.

Well - as someone who doesn't tend to write long messages this certainly 
seems to have become one. Thank and it's great to be back! 
-theo (?????????????)

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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: A New Smokers' Site


	Steve Johnson & I put together a site we believe the readers will 
find interesting.  The URL is: 


	For now, the site serves as a promotion for the Los Angeles Pipe 
& Cigar League - 1996 Pipe & Cigar Expo.  After July, it will become the 
home page for PIPE FRIENDLY Magazine.  Please add it to your bookmarks as 
things will be changed and updated with regularity.

	It also has an incomplete set of related links and a realy nice 
collection of graphics.  Enjoy!

Until later ... Smoke Well!
Joel Farr

[ I'm editing at home, therefore temporarily without Web access, but
I'll check it out tomorrow.  Thanks! -S. ]

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996
  2. Subject: thanks for the subscription!
  4. Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #216, Spencer's post
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #216 -- May 11, 1996
  6. Subject: intro,1 question
  7. Subject: pipe question and change of address!
  8. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #216 -- May 11, 1996
  9. Subject: GBD & Charatan Books
  10. Subject: Smokeless Cigarettes
  11. Subject: Pipes Digest #216 -- May
  12. Subject: mailto:????????????????????????
  13. Subject: New member bio
  14. Subject: Pipes Digest #216 -- May 11, 1996 -Reply
  15. Subject: Pipes Digest and Pipse Survey
  16. Subject: aromatic vs. English/Virginia
  17. Subject: (no subject)
  18. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #216 -- May 11, 1996
  19. Subject: Coumarin aka Warfarin
  20. Subject: Smoking Rat Poison
  21. Subject: Tongue Bite verses Peppery Taste
  23. Subject: Carvers - Pipe and All
  24. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request
  25. Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request
  26. Subject: Pipe Clay
  27. Subject: Provide your cigar tasting contributions!
  28. Subject: First contact and presentation
  29. Subject: Re: (no subject)
  30. Subject: Pipe Problem
  31. Subject: New Web Site
  32. Subject: Seeking Primo Tobacco
  33. Subject: dunhill pipes in England
  34. Subject: Re: Thanks, Pipes Digest
  35. Subject: Movie Smoke question ...
  36. Subject: Web page (of course)
  37. Subject: trip report
  38. Subject: I'd like to receive your Pipe Digest again.
  39. Subject: Got your massage
  40. Subject: Picking a good pipe shop
  41. Subject: New member - Me!
  42. Subject: German Tobacco & Cigar Museum
  43. Subject: pipe smoking
  44. Subject: First post...
  45. Subject: A New Smokers' Site
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