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Subject: Pipes Digest #218 -- June 14, 1996

		  Pipes Digest #218 -- June 14, 1996
   Copyright (C) 1996 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 2275

Welcome to new members:

	Henry T Windsor
	Don Edwards
	Vincent Messina Jr.
	B. Ramsey Burnside
	Kenneth Naas
	Nick Stengel
	Jesper Klith
	John D. Wallace
	B. Sobioch
	Jim Schwarz
	David Herrmann
	Bob Kaptein Holland
	Charles Wahlstrom
	Mark A. Rogers
	Fred Moskow
	James W. Carroll Jr.
	Wayne Tedford
	Terry Lamphear
	Ben Truncali
	Bradley S Schmidt
	Thomas R. Brown
	John Schag
	Bo Donegan
	Philip Florio
	Scott Witte
	Steven Mcpeak
	Steven Gruner
	Woody Wilson Jr.
	David Smith
	Leo Kim
	Howard
	Mark A. Brown
	Dave Wolff
	James D. Hays M.D.
	Joe Barta
	Micheal Duke
	Jim Murray
	Mike Bryan
	Jason Kaminski

ADMIN: As many members have noticed, the Web site has been down for
much of this week.  Our redoubtable Webmaster, Steve Beaty, has some
news on this (garnered from alt.smokers.pipes), which appears as the
first letter.  It's not Steve's fault, nor is it that of the site. And
hopefully, we won't leave our readers on the Web stranded for too much
longer!

And now, as the Solstice approaches and the warm weather has arrived,
join us in the backyard as we fetch a stick to scare the woodchuck and
a smoke to scare the mosquitoes...


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	    Help Stop Prohibition  --  Keep Tobacco Legal

		      Call  --  Write  --  Vote

			Then, smoke in peace.

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: tacoma.net status

Steve,

>Have you learned anything about what's going on with tacoma.net?  ~\U S.

        here's what Vince said in a.s.p.:
----------
The pipes page at http://www.pipes.org will be down for a couple more days.

US Worst (U.S. West) was supposed to have our new T1 up on the 7th and my 
equipment had to be moved on the 9th.  It is not the 13th and no T1.

They have promised that it will be up tomorrow, I will believe it when I see 
it.

Washington Internet Services
(206) 572-1392
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Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                 ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA        http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/


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From: sergio <???????????????>

Hello Steve,

        First of all, my congratulations on our PD. Is ine of the best
things in the Net, I always find good information and listen to very
interesting stories.

        I live in Rio de Janeiro, Brasil, and have been a pipe smoker for 10
years now. Pipe smoking is not very common here, may be because of the very
hot weather. Things are starting to changing, it's becaming fashion here
people  smoking cigars. They just open a new shop near home, it's a little
too fancy for a serius smoker, but I can sit there and have my pipe in peace.
         I have 2 questions I would like to put to you and to any other expert:

        - A friend of mine give me an old Italian Whitehall briar pipe, with
the inside of the bowl made in meerschaum. The pipe have never been used,
bur I found one litle fissure, crack, in the meerschaum. What can I do to
repair it? Can I smoke it anyway or put it in the shelf?

        - I also had a very old pipe, actually only the bowl, that was found
in escavations in the northest of Brasil. I was told that it is a XVII
century old dutch pipe, made in terracota, from the period the dutch invade
this part of Brasil. I would like to try to rebuid the pipe. Do you know any
book that could help me in this job? Or some one that could do it?

        Thank you in advance for the help.

sergio jordao
???????????????

[ Meerschaum-lined pipes aren't usually very valuable; I'd suggest you
just smoke and enjoy.  As for the Dutch pipe, repairing it would
probably be impossible, but perhaps a skilled ceramicist could make
you a copy.  As It Happens, we might have some expertise in the group
on reproducing antique clays... -S. ]


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From: ???????????????????????????? (Stephen B Bray)
Subject: Second hand smoke

Dear Steve: When ever I'm out in public smoking my pipe, people comment on
how nice it smells and then they go on too tell me about there grandfather
or uncle who smoked a pipe,and how much they enjoyed the smell of the
tobacco.  This makes me happy, to think that my smoke awakens memories of
forgotten and missed loved ones. The sense of smell is a wonderful thing.

Stephen Bray , Pipemaker

==============================
Olde World Fine Clays
249 South Street
Glace Bay, Nova Scotia
Canada B1A 1W6
(902) 849 1383
????????????????????????????
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From: Andrew Sullivan <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996

Hope this is the right address to write to : I've never written.

I have subscribed for about a year, and have enjoyed the issues; but, I 
never supposed I had a thing to contribute, so I kept my counsel.  I'm a 
27-yr.-old grad. student in philosophy at McMaster University here in 
un-lovely Hamilton.  I've smoked a pipe for about five years; and, I have 
to admit, I have no time for the snobs who insist that my liking for a 
well-made aromatic is bad taste.

Anyway, this is a comment on the following, from the June 3 issue:

> "Although we had already signified our intention of becoming American
>  citizens, Arkady, as you would expect, wanted the farewell Russian
>  performance carried out with proper dignity, as would befit the honor
>  of a great empire.  He rehearsed our Russian soldiers with great care
>  in the lowering of our flag and I helped mend torn uniforms and
>  supervised the polishing of shoes.  I must say that our troops looked
>  pipe-clay neat when Arkady and I were finished".
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>I assume that this refers to the bright white appearance of a clay pipe 
>when new or after being burned clean in a fireplace (as described in The 
>Ultimate Pipe Book).

>[ Also, back in the days of sailing ships, pipe clay was applied to
>the ropes (or lines or halliards or hawsers or whatever) to whiten
>them for special occasions. -S. ]

What is fascinating about this, actually, is that 18th century military 
practice was to use pipe-clay for all sorts of whitening uses.  The 
British army (I don't know about the Russians) regulars used to use wet 
pipe clay on their breeches in order to make them white.  Naturally, this 
had some unhappy effects in cold weather, such as was often seen here in 
Canada.  As a result, some Canadian regiments adopted grey trousers as 
uniform, instead.

Ah, for the days when one could expect a ready supply of pipe-clay in the 
neighbourhood...

-- 
Culture is activity of thought, and receptiveness to
beauty and humane feeling.  Scraps of information have
nothing to do with it.   -- A.N. Whitehead
Andrew Sullivan <????????????????????>

[ I'm not sure what you meant about the "unhappy effects in cold
weather," though I can imagine... -S. ]


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From: ?????????????? (Matthew R. Libhart)
Subject: Eatin' Park

I everyone, haven't written in a while cause I don't get to e-mail much now
that school is out for summer break.
        I live in South Central PA and just wanted to make a note to
everyone who knows about or eats in Eatin' Park restaurants.  They've got a
smoking section, but on the menu it states that they must ask patrons to
refrain from smoking cigars or pipes in the smoking section.  Cigars I may
agree.  I enjoy a fine cigar very much, but the concentrated smoke can
travel far and be overwhelming.  But I've never met a person that would
prefer cigarette smoke over that of a fine pipe tobacco.  A sad state of
affairs indeed.

P.S.  I've never actually tried a puff, I wonder if they'd say anything???
P.P.S.  Thanks again Steve for the wonderfull job you do every month.


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From: "schier" <???????????????????>
Subject:       Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996

Interesting post by "bigchris;" I should have 
thought of that myself. If indeed small amounts
of the coumarin/warfarin in pipe tobacco are
absorbed into the bloodstream, it could be beneficial;
Warfarin, trademarked as Coumadin, is indeed an
anticoagulant used to treat heart/stroke patients.

What I still would like to know, though, is whether
Wigand is just plain full of it, or whether there
is any coumarin in pipe tobacco.

Also, on a completely different topic, I had always
thought that the (Italian) pipe carver Lorenzo Tagliabue,
whose pipes are known as Lorenzo, had passed away
10 or so years ago. Yet, I just bought another
Lorenzo - great value for the money, incidentally.
Is my info wrong, or did someone take over from
Tagliabue?

Yitzchak



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From: Meeler <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996

Hi Steve, and all other pipe-smokers...

	I've thoroughly enjoyed reading PD for the last few months, and 
figured it was time to write in.  Besides, I have a motive.

	I am a grad. student in Santa Barbara California and have been 
smoking pipes for a dozen or so years.  Having recently moved to the West 
coast I left my smoking pals behind and have met no pipe smokers here.  I 
have also seen no mention anywhere of a pipe group--briar friers, 
etc.--and am interested in getting one together if one does not already 
exist.  So if there are any SB area pipe smokers, please e-mail me at the 
address below.

	Thanks for a great digest.

dave

_________________________________________________________________________
David Meeler			Department of Philosophy
Coterian #7249			University of California--Santa Barbara



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From: ??????????????????????? (redbat)
Subject: Pipe cases

[ Administrativa deleted. -S. ]
 
Try using the computer tool cases that you can get at any computer
retailer. They come in sizes which will hold two pipes to as many as five
or six. They have elastic bands which will usually fit the pipes, and they
are probably cheaper than the gun cases or shaving kits. They don't have as
much cushioning, but you can put a thin piece of foam in the middle. Nice
zippered cases. The tools are a bonus. 
-- 
 
Redbat


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From: Andy Chase <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Heloise on the Pipes Digest?

 Hi, Steve...I've been subscribing to the digest for about a year now, but I've
never contributed anything before.  Well, I figure it's about time.

 Towards the end of the last issue, someone mentioned that they were looking
for a good pipe rack, or thinking of making one.  I have a couple of racks
which I picked up at a flea market, but one is rather bruised and battered, and
the other only holds four pipes (and neither of them really accomidates my big
Nording freehand.  Also, I've always thought that pipes are
better displayed as they often are in a smoke shop, hung somehow horizontally
on the wall.

 So, I set out to make myself a decent but inexpensive (hey, I'm just out of
college) pipe rack, and I got one together for about $6.00.  I went to the
local lumber/home improvement store and picked up three things:  A sawtooth
picture hanger, a small package of black 1 5/8" panel nails, and a ready-made
10" X 24" wood shelf (I bought one of those _really_ cheap particle board ones 
that's covered with a decent looking faux wood grain, but for a little more you
could always buy the real thing).

 I nailed the hanger to the top & back of the shelf. (holding it vertically,
although I suppose you could do it either way)  Then, taking each pipe I wanted
to put on this rack, I plotted where it would be necessary to prop the pipe up
so it would sit securely, and put a nail in at each point... for bents I used
one nail on either side of the bottom of the bowl, and one under the end of the
mouthpiece, and for straights I used one nail under the bowl, one nail just
under the end of the mouthpiece, and one nail right near the point where the
top of the shank meets the bowl, making sure I could place & remove the pipe
without its getting stuck.

 The black paint used on the nails that I found acts like a protective coating,
preventing the metal from potentially scratching the pipes.  And since the
nails have very small heads you hardly notice them at all, so it doesn't look
too much like a cubscout's first wood project.  I'm very pleased with the
results... hung on the wall my pipes are much better displayed than standing on
a rack in the corner, and the dark woodgrain behind them complements the briar
bowls very nicely.  

 Well, I hope that's of interest of someone... I figured it would be more so
here than in Heloise's column in the paper. :{)>

						-Andy Chase
						 Rochester, NY
						 http://www.rit.edu/~anc0814

[ Sounds workable, Andy; plastic-coated cup hooks might do well, too.
BTW, I've had a woodworking question about pipe racks for some time
now.  A couple of my racks have a top piece with C-shaped
indentations, routed along one edge.  How does one drill the
indentations or rout the edge without excessive tear-out? -S. ]


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From: Serhat Azizlerli <?????????????????????????????>

Hi everybody,
as a new member to the list, and an inexperienced pipe-smoker, i want to 
ask two questions:
 ...could somebody advise me on the best way to clean meerschaum pipes and 
the second one is what is the best pie/tabacco shop known to you in the 
new york city?..if anybody could get me some information on either of 
those, i would appreciate it very much...


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From: Chuck Basso <????????????????????>
Subject: Meerschaum

Illustrious moderator and fellow pipe types!

        While referencing Kraus and Slawson's _Gems and Gem Materials_ and
Kraus, Hunt, and Ramsdell's _Mineralogy_ on an unrelated topic, I came
across some information regarding sepiolite - the mineral which my fellow
Digesters (now there's an odd turn of phrase <G>) recognize as meerschaum.
I hope it will prove of interest.  (And I beg forgiveness if it's been
posted before!)

1.  Everyone knows that meerschaum translates to "sea-foam."  Why?  Due to
its low specific gravity (1-2 times the weight of water) and considerable
porosity, it will commonly float.  Romantic allusions aside, this seems the
most plausible of all the explanations I have seen for the name.

2.  The famed deposits at Esksehir are secondary deposits.  The meerschaum
originated elsewhere.  (Incidentally, it's also found in Spain, the Grecian
archipelago, Morocco, Moravia, Utah, California, New Mexico, and
Pennsylvania.  So I suppose it's possible to have an American meerschaum pipe!)

3.  Most sepiolite is a product of the weathering of serpentine and
magnesite (which is in turn the result of the alteration and carbonation of
magnesium minerals from igneous and metamorphic rocks).  Some is also the
result of the alteration of impure opal containing considerable magnesium -
radiolaria have tests (shells) of opaline silica, so they may be the
"millions of tiny sea creatures" described in numerous sales brochures - but
I would suspect that sepiolite from this source would tend to be finely
disseminated in sediments, rather than nodular.  (I'll admit that the
"millions of tiny sea creatures" story has the greater romantic appeal, both
from a sales and tell-your-friends point of view.)  I don't have specific
information on the source of the Esksehir deposits, but I am looking.  I'll
talk to some clay mineralogists of my acquaintance and follow up later.

Regards from "sunny" Toledo, 
Chuck
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
Chuck Basso, S.M.	Optical Mineralogist	Toledo, Ohio
DNRC Titles:  Tyrant of Ohio and
	      Obergruppenfuhrer of the Rust Belt Legion
"He smokes his pipe, allaying heart and mind
 And for tonight all injuries are healed."
        --Baudelaire

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: The cigar enjoyed

Hi Gang!

I just wrote to give you guys a little something to chat about!  Sort of...

Well, anyway, I smoked a cigar today.  It was nothing fancy, just a Phillie
Sweet.  I must say that it is excellent because they put sugar on the tip and
it is very sweet, hence the name.  

I was going to take the bus home, but since it was a beautiful day I decided
to walk home.  What better a thing to do at a moment like this but to light
up.  So I took out my Phillie Sweet and lit up.  I truly enjoyed it on the
two-mile walk home.  

I seem to be getting off on a rant here, so let me explain.  

[ The letter ended here. -S. ]


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From: Robin Humble <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996

Dear Steve,

Thanks for my first copy of the Digest, #217, and to see myself listed among
the new members. Wonderful to find something really interesting to read
among all the professional crud in the mailbox!

I am writing in response to

<From: "Carl Hurley" <?????????????????????>
<Subject: dunhill pipes in England>

One place that is a must for me when I go to London, or as we say where I
live, *Go up to Town*, is Smith's Snuff Shop in Charing Cross Road, half way
between Cambridge Circus and Leicester Square. I am always amazed at the
amount of stock he manages to get into such tiny premises. One thing that
Carl should be able to pick up there is a copy of a gem of a quarterly mag
produced by the association of independent tobacconists of Great Britain,
which contains the addresses of all their members. Have a great trip, Carl!

I have to say that my favourites all seem to be Petersons. Of the sixteen
pipes on my desk, (more in drawers!), 12 are of that ilk, 10 from Dublin and 2
from the Rosslare factory. I do have a Ropp, a Savinelli and a Big Ben as a
minimal counterweight. My absolute favourites are the Hand Mades, but they are
so big that it really takes two to smoke them - one to hold and one to puff.

My Father smoked a pipe, as had his, and for my sixteenth birthday I was
given a pound (money) and sent to see a friend of his who was a tobacconist,
to buy a kit. His words were that he knew I smoked cigarettes, (how on earth
did he know?), and if I had to smoke, I would bloody well smoke a pipe. I'm
53 now and have been a pipe smoker pretty much exclusively for the last
twenty. I remember some of the good-natured ridicule I got as a youngster -
*You'll fall off the end of that!* and so on. But I am extremely pleased
that I perservered and did not get a bad cigarette habit..... Anyway, for my
pound, I got a reject pipe, an ounce of Will's Cut Golden Bar, a box of
matches and a pipe knife ... and six pence change. (There were 240 pennies
to the pound in them far off days).

I picked up a little on the availability of Copes Escudo, which I have
smoked and enjoyed from time to time. One of my Dad's complaints was that
Copes had withdrawn his preferred smoke, High Card, and that must have been
fifty years ago. My tastes vary, but are usually drawn from Gawith Hoggarth
of Kendal's list. I do like to mix it up with the occasional pipe of Black
Cavendish, although I could not smoke that all the time.

Enough of my drivel. Thanks again for a truly enjoyable mailing.

Regards and lang may your lumb reek.

Robin Humble

[ Lumb? -S. ]


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From: ???????????????
Subject: good english

< A new friend (made at the Port Royal shop in Toledo, OH) introduced me to
Balkan Sobranie.  I simply can't get enough of this right now but I know this
will change.  I also enjoy Dunhill's My Mixture #???. 

I, too, enjoy Balkan Sobranie, both the Original Smoking Mixture and the
Luxury Blend. Maybe the Dunhill mixture is 965, my absolute favorite --
though I prefer it out of the tin instead of in bulk, a problem here in
Atlanta. I heard from one Arizona tobacconist that Sobranie was being dropped
by the distributor, and then on the web that Sasieni (sp? Sorry) was picking
it up. I'd really like the straight dope on that situation. But may I also
suggest to Steve Hahn the McClelland's Personal Reserve Series -- like Bombay
Court and Bombay Extra. Most fine English blends. You used to be able to get
them from Nikos Levin at NML Pipes Direct, who I noticed join the list. (I'm
a satisfied customer of his father, Barry, and I'm sure Nikos is carrying on
the fine tradition. My condolences, Nikos.)

Next on this long letter, I'm new to Atlanta, moving from Arizona, and while
I've found adequate tobacconists, I have not found enough cohorts in crime to
enjoy a bowl with (or an occasional cigar, for that matter.) Don't want to
make this a personals ad, (they scare me! Who answers those things?) but
would like to know of some Atlanta-based clubs or hangouts where some folks
like me might gather for a smoke and a drink (Hey, I'm happily married with
our first on the way, but my lovely wife, while tolerant, doesn't partake in
our fine hobby.) I'm a journalist, a bit on the youngish side, quickly
approaching 30, and like to pair my English tobacco with fine English ales.

On Tim Ramsay's talks of finally finding an acceptable aromatic, I'm kind of
partial to George Washington from Cincinnati Tobacco. Story is, or I was told
by someone anyway, that someone researched the mixture that Washington gave
his troops as rations, which I thought was kind of neat. A good story, even
if it isn't true!


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From: Richard Gray/MDACC <Richard_Gray/???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996

Thanks for another great Pipes Digest!  I really enjoy the letters from other 
digest readers, and pick up on their experiences.  I've been smoking pipes 
since 1968, a small but proud collection of  Dunhill, Charatan,Radice, 
Peterson, Barling, Caminetto, Castello, Sasieni, and Ascorti.  I am 
particularly fond of the Radice and Caminetto (pre and post founders 
production).

I have moved from aromatic to English over the years.  Lately, I have been 
smoking the Esoterica selections and those of Butera (who is also the importer 
of Esoterica) who also lives in Houston.

Thanks for the pipe cleaning info in a previous newsletter regarding 
Everclear.  I have cleaned/reconditioned several pipes by removing the bit, 
plugging the shank, and inserting a piece of paper towel in the bowl, then 
saturating the paper towel with Everclear.  Two days later the tars have 
leeched into the paper towel and the bowl is sweet and clean.


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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: Swallowing

Hi Steve,

I found this little piece of wisdom in your pipe-smoking FAQ

"You may find the pipe getting a little juicy as you smoke. To avoid
this, try to keep your mouth dry as you smoke, and avoid swallowing."

While the idea is clear, the underlying principles leave me a bit 
puzzled, especially the "avoid swallowing" part. I do seem to produce a 
lot of saliva when I smoke. Swallowing it seems to be the thing to do, 
although it does sometimes ressults in a slightly irritated oesophagus (I 
guess the liquid does carry some of the nasty stuff). The other solutions 
are to drool or spit it out, neither of which strike me as being elegant 
or approriate. Any advice or ideas would be welcome.

Eric Francoeur

[ A third alternative would be to keep a glass of your favorite drink
handy. -S. ]


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From: Doug Sorensen <?????????????????>
Subject: Change of Address

Steve:

Thanks for the great work you do. My company is rearranging its net, so 
my previous address (???????????????????????) probably bounced on you. 
Sorry for the trouble. The new address is ?????????????????? This is an 
alias the our IS people are supposed to keep pointed in the right 
direction. Also, as I've moved to a cigar hell called Taiwan, I need you 
more than ever. The only cigars I've found here are bad and $5 a piece. 
Thank God for the good folks at Lone Star Cigars (????????????????) 
who've kept me supplied by mail order, even though they are not really 
in the mail order business.

Thanks again. Happy blue smoke trails.

Doug Sorensen

[ Change of address noted, Doug.  And best of luck keeping yourself supplied!
-S. ]


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From: ????????????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996

I like to give you the falowing information concerning the Tobacco 
Shop in Switzerland: TABAC KLARER AG.
the phoen number as been changed for:071-78-711-23

//-------------------------------------------------------------------
---------
// Rene D'amico.
// ????????????????????
// <TEAM OS/2>
http://www.evansville.net/~rened/

[ I'd be glad to change it, except that we don't have a listing for Tabac
Klarer AG. The closest one is Tabac Rhein in Geneve. If you'll send me the
full address, I'll put it in the Resource Guide. -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????? (Michael Bardzinski)
Subject: Thanks, New address et al.

Hi Steve,

[ Administrativa deleted. -S. ]

Is this the right place to send pipe-digest related mail?

Now the boring bit is over, on to pipe matters:

Thanks for subscribing me to the pipesmokers digest; so far I have
found it most enjoyable and informative!

I am effectively a new pipesmoker, and have a query either for yourself
or the digest readers, but first let me introduce myself.

I am now 30 years old; since my pre-teen years I have loved both the
smell of pipe tobacco, (in the jar, and when someone else smoked it)
and just the *idea* of smoking a pipe. Maybe JRR Tolkien had something
to do with this :)

My first encounter with a pipe was at university, with a very cheap
"second", a "mild" aromatic blend, and no guidance.  It was not an
experience that I will easily forget: my disappointment at the lack of
taste and my charred tongue ensured that I did not touch a briar again
for several years.

But the aroma and mystique still beckoned, and so I tried again. And
again. And again...

My second and subsequent encounters all started and ended in much the
same way, as the first,  with the exception that I was buying better
briars, and milder & lighter tobaccos, in the hope that this would
help.

The result of this was that 3 years ago during a major clear-out of the
house, I discovered that I had a collection of 11 pipes, including a
GBD and a Peterson, none of which had been smoked more than a couple of
times.

I decided to try again, but this time, sought the advice of my local
tobacconist, who gave me a dark aromatic (a German Black Cherry) and a
copy of the Pipesmokers' Welcome guide (a free yearly publication in
Britain, produced by the Pipesmokers' Council), which set me on the
right track as far as packing and lighting were concerned.

Finally! 
I could smoke a pipe without it feeling as though I were sucking on a
blow-torch! The room-aroma was fantastic! Even my wife-to-be liked it.
How I envied her, that she could appreciate the smell without having to
pop out in to the garden for a few seconds every so often! But, I was
still not getting much taste, and so gradually I smoked less and less,
until without noticing I had stopped altogether.

Two years went by. We had a daughter. We moved house.

While unpacking the millionth box, I found my pipe collection!

So once more, off I trudged to the (new) local tobacconist. I returned
with more advice and not an aromatic, but Rattray's Red Rapparee.

Though at first I found it a bit hot, there was that un-mistakable
quality I had sought after for so long: flavour! (I'm British and
that's how WE spell it :)

Spurred on by this new experience, and encouraged by my tobacconist, I
persisted, and now both my mouth, and my briars are broken in. Bliss!
Joy! Rapture! Ahemmm, sorry to go on but I have been waiting for this
day for over ten years :))

Anyway, finally on to my question. (Wake up there at the back! :)

I understand the importance of "cake" in a briar for a cool, dry smoke,
but what exactly is cake?

Is it a (gradually thickening) layer of charred wood, which as it is
trimmed will enlarge the original bore of the bowl?

Or, is it a (gradually thickening) deposit inside the walls of the
bowl, which if left un-trimmed will eventually reduce the original bore
of the bowl?

The reason that I am asking is because I seem to have quite a bit of
the later, which resembles a tar-like deposit. If it is tar, I guess I
ought to scrape it all out, and clean my pipes more often, but I don't
want to do that until I am sure it is not cake.

Apologies for the excessive length of this missive: when I lurk, I
lurk; when I stop I do so with a vengance!

Smoke in peace, 

Mike Bardzinski

[ Cake is the former: the charred remains of the leaves you have sacrificed to
the great god Nick O'Teen. It's probably best to keep it at about a 1-mm
thickness. The briar itself should never burn, after the pipe is broken
in. -S. ]


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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>

Steve, I hope you don't mind if I share some of the exciting details of the
OPC Sept. 14 swap/sell pipe show--pipes only; no cigars--with you and the
Digest readers.  This promises to be a really exciting event, and we'd like
as many people as possible to make plans to be there.
 
With room for 60-65 tables, we have already rented 42 and have a good shot
at a full house.  So far, several pipe shops, numerous individuals, Nikos
Levin of NML Pipes and Bob Hamlin of PCAA, and pipe makers Tim West, Steve
Weiner, Steve and Roswitha Anderson, and Lee von Erck have all committed to
attending.  There will be thousands of pipes as well as great quantities of
pipe-related items (tobacco, literature, etc., etc.) available for purchase
and possible trade.
 
With a table rent of only $25 ($30 after July 1), most of the money we make
each year to continue operating comes from our $1 a ticket raffle.  We
already have lots of tobacco and other stuff pledged for the raffle, but
I'll just enumerate the pipes pledged so far: a Tim West, a Dunhill
Chestnut bamboo shank Group 5 pot, a Bob Everett, a Kirsten, an S&R, an
older GBD unsmoked Virgin, a David Jones Regency, a von Erck, a Mark Tinsky
American, an unspecified Dunhill, a Steve Weiner and a (probably) Brebbia.
There will be more.
 
But that's not all.  The Dunhill Chestnut is now in the hands of Chris
Hill, wife of OPC member and artist Pat Hill.  Chris is a jewelry designer,
and, in conjunction with the OPC, which is paying for the materials, she is
making a solid sterling silver fitted case for the pipe.  This will be the
last item in the 4:30 raffle, and I expect the interest will be intense.
You don't have to be present at the raffle, but you have to buy your
tickets at the show.
 
OPC membership now stands at 132 from 22 states and Canada, plus one in
England.  Anyone interested in receiving a show flyer or signup sheet,
please contact me.  And, as always, I will send a comp copy of our
increasingly large newsletter to anyone who thinks they might be interested
in becoming a member.

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

[ Ooh! Aah! That raffle item should definitely spark some interest, I'd
say!  -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest

Hello Steve

Thanks for the introductory letter to PD. How ever, I would suggest
that sort the adresses in the resource lists geographically instead
alphabetically - it took me quite a long time to find the Danish
adresses.

I will try to find other Danish adresses of interest to pipe
smokers, but that will have to wait for a while. Until next time,
enjoy your smoke... By the way, are there any members in the
Chech Republic - I'm going there this fall and it could be fun
to meet some "brothers in smoke"...

Goodbye from
Jesper Klith, Denmark

[ Another solution would be to just pop a copy of the Guide into your
favorite text editor, and search for the word "DENMARK."  There are a
couple of Danish shops in the Guide. I have them arranged alphabetically
so it's easy to look for a particular shop. -S. ]


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From: Carl Davis <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Cigar Store II

I was wondering if you knew of any place other than Thompson's that sells 
the Cigar Store II.  I found the Pipe's Digest that had the maker of the 
CigarStor (the original one) wrote to you and I tried to email that 
address but it did not work.  Thanks for any help you can provide. 

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Carl Davis                        | Tel   : (217) 733-2271 
Agriculture Ecomonics (Sophmore)  | Email : ??????????????????????????
U of I at Urbana-Champaign        |         ??????????????????????
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From: "John H. Martindale" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Kudos to McClelland and Butera...

Steve,

Over the past few months, I have been experimenting with the McClelland 
and Butera Pipe Co. blends (including Esoterica Tobacciana).  Instead of 
product reviews, I would prefer to honor these companies with some 
public recognition for their blatant obsession with producing and/or 
marketing top-quality products ONLY.  It's a shame these aren't public 
companies, since they have successfully and skillfully established 
market niches and should profit in what can only become a stronger 
market in the future as more and more cigar smokers come to realize that 
$5 for a one-time smoke is an obscenity.  Of course, McClelland and 
Butera face some price sensitivity themselves, since their blends are 
indeed more expensive than most.  But, one should carefully consider 
that the per-smoke price of pipe tobacco remains a genuine bargain and 
when you amortize the pleasure you receive over the time it takes to 
consume the entire contents of a tin, the price of the McClelland/Butera 
blends is just a few pennys more per-smoke than cheaper blends.  In 
today's grossly over-hyped cigar market, a dollar here or there 
per-smoke is nothing, while many pipe smokers seem intimidated by paying 
a few more pennys per-smoke for a quality tinned blend.  Go figure!!  
Are there plenty of other good blends out there for less money?  Yes.  
But, are there other blends that use super-high quality leaf, are as 
painstakingly manufactured and are as carefully blended and packaged?  
No.  Try these blends....quality remains the only bargain.


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From: Chuck Basso <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996

Regarding Steve Hahn's "New member bio"

Steve:  I tried to send email to the ?????????????????? address regarding
tobaccos (and pipes, of course), but it bounced.  I have some suggestions,
and if you are in the Toledo area (I see you mentioned Port Royal - I'm kind
of a regular) I'll give you some to try.  If you're interested, email me at
?????????????????????  Don't want to eat up bandwidth, so I'll close here.

Regards from "sunny" Toledo,
Chuck

"He smokes his pipe, allaying heart and mind
 And for tonight all injuries are healed."
        --Baudelaire


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From: howard <????????????????>
Subject: (no subject)

Please add me to your list.  And, by the way, do you know where I can 
get Astleys (of London) pipe tobacco, Royal Tudor No. 99?  Thanks.


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From: ???????????????????
Subject: Pipe Smoker's Mailing list

Add me to the list, Please.  I started in November of 1977.  My most 
accessable choice is Captain Black white, though I love a black moist 
leaf cured in mollasses by C.B. Perkins (Boston Special).  Straight or 
semi bent stem, 1/3 paper filter.


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From: "Mark D. Weber" <?????????????????????>
Subject: An information request

I have not had time to read all the back issues, so if I am asking for  
information that is available, I'm sorry and please point me to the  
apporpriate back issue.

I would like some information on Nat Sherman pipes and tobacco.  
Specifially, who makes the pipes (really) and how do they smoke? I am  
toying with buying a Nat Sherman Bent Saddle or Bent Billard. I have  
never spent more than $70 or so on a pipe and $135 is somewhat more  
than that and as this will have to be a mail order, I thought i might  
get some information first.

Also, how consitent are there tobacco blends?

Thanks and puff well. 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark D. Weber
OS/2 Warp - we were where you want to go today several years ago


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From: ??????????????????? (MR DAVID A WOLFF)
Subject: Pipes Digest mailing list

Hi Steve,

Please enter my name on the Pipes Digest mailing list.  I LOVE pipes 
and pipe smoking.  I've been smoking pipes for about 35 years.  I 
have a very nice briar collection including some prize pieces 
belonging to my father and grandfather.

Unfortunately there are no groups around here... maybe it's time I 
started one <g>.

Thank you very much.

Dave Wolff
704 Patricia Avenue
Ann Arbor, MI  48103
(313) 761-8949

Again Steve, thank you !

                                 Regards,

                                 Dave Wolff

[ There are the Blue Ox Cigar Society in Oscoda, and, of course, the A&M
Gazette in Wixom.  Neil, are the Dirigible Pirates going to drop by Ann
Arbor anytime soon? :-) -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????????? (Michael Bardzinski)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996

Hi Tim,

(Steve: I started writing this reply to Tim, but thought that some
parts of it might be of interest to the rest of the Digest readers, please
include/edit as you see fit)

I read your posting to the Pipe Smokers digest with some interest, as
it is very similar to my own experience: I too started with aromatic
blends, but have moved to English blends.  Red Rapparee is a favourite
of mine, and I after this tin, I shall start working my way through the
rest of the Rattray's range.

As far as McLintock is concerned, they do quite a variety of aromatics:
Black Cherry, Blackberry, & Apricot are some that come to mind, but they
do many more. I have only tried the Black Cherry of theirs, and it is
now one of the very few aromatics that I enjoy; however I have added
Blanc des Blancs to my list of tobaccos to try :)

If you are interested, the AITS Tobacco Index  which now available
on-line through the Pipe Digest WWW page has a complete list.  This
index is the most comprehensive list I have seen of tobaccos available
in Britain. If you cannot find them in your neck of the woods, there
are a number of tobacconists in the UK who will do mail order. One of
these is Edward McGahey, the guy who compiled the list.

One tobacco that I have tried recently is Craven Mixture, which is a very
pleasing mix of matured virginias and aromatic tobaccos.  It is not the
easiest tabak to find, but I think it is making a come-back. Appart
from being a very old blend, made for the Earl of Craven during the
last century, it is also the "Arcadia mixture" referred to by both  J.M
Barrie (in "My Lady Nicotine" I think?), and Sherlock Holmes (I forget
which case, but I can find out if any one is interested).

Smoke in peace,

Mike Bardzinski


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From: Bruce  Harris <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Digest

Stephen: I would like to inform the readership that I have a complete
set of CIGAR AFICIANADO magazine (16 issues) for sale or trade. Price is
$175 or I will trade for pipes (Dunhill, A/R Caminetto, Becker,
etc.). Thanks!


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: cigar get together

For anyone in the Oklahoma City/Norman area: Plantations tobacco is having a
cigar dinner in mid July on the Oklahoma University Campus  Cost is 35.00 per
person food, beer, and cigars will be present.  Also, a "Long Ash" contest
will be held.  For info call Plantations at (405) 364-5152 or e-mail me

for the resource guide:
Plantations
3335 W Main 
Norman OK                            
                                                              hope to meet
some of you there

                                                           ??????????????????


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From: Grant Porter <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Idea..

My brother pipe smoker Steve,

	I have an idea. How about taking all the past issues of The Digest- add
some scanned photos of pipes- etc and make a CD-ROM of info on pipes for us new
folk. Maybe a small search engine for the issues- just a general information
source.

	Since the Digest is 'Not for profit', Let one of our commerical
sources foot the main bill(or course ads for them and others)- then a
small fee of $5.00 to $10.00 for the CD. I know CDs can be produced for
$3-4 each, in numbers of 1500-2000. I noticed the Digest was going to
over 2200.

	I know this would be some work, must be about the same as a Web
page, and would provide a great source for new people.

	Food for thought. The Digest is wonderful. Thanks for all your
time and effort to further the cause. Great Job.

Smoke in peace.

Grant Porter
?????????????????????????

[ OK, let's do a straw poll; how many members would be interested in a
CDROM version of the Digest back issues? -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????????????? (Gerd A. Folberth)
Subject: pipe company

Hi Steve!

Maybe you and the other people of the group can help me with
my question. A little while ago I bought a canadian shaped
smooth finished pipe, which is signed "Charles Fairmorn"
and is made in England. I got 25% off the original prize, which
by then was about 100$. Maybe someone heard of this man or
company and maybe could send me a short note.

Thank you and best wishes

Gerd Folberth
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________

Gerd A. Folberth
Inst. f. Theoret. Phys.                 Tel.  :   (+43) [316] 380 5253 (5229)
Karl-Franzens-Universitaet Graz         FAX   :      
Universitaetsplatz 5                    e-mail:   ?????????????????????????????
A-8010 Graz                             WWW   :    
Austria                                 http://physik.kfunigraz.ac.at/~gaf/
_______________________________________________________________________________

===============================================================================

Quid-quid id est timeo grammaticorum Austriacae Linguae reformationes et bona 
ferrentes sic denique censeo renascandum esse Carolum Crausum.
 
Quo-usque tandem abutere patientia mea, reformatores!! Sunt certi
denique fines. 

                                      \\|//
                                    O (O=O)
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From: ????????????????????????? (Michael Bardzinski)
Subject: Re: Tongue Bite v. Peppery Taste

Hi John / Steve

In PD #216 John said:

> 2.  Many of the cavendish tobaccos I've tried impart a stinging or
> bitter sensation on the back of my tongue and throat, especially when
> smoked heavily.  Which tobacco leaf actually causes this effect?  I
> suspect maybe some sort of Virginia tobacco, because some of the
> blends which exhibit this boast flavorings with a Virginia base.  The
> Blatter Reserve I like so much gives no such problem.  Blatter Reserve
> is a very dark color... does this mean it lacks Virginia?  I don't
> like this "peppery" sensation and would like to know which tobacco I
> need steer clear of to avoid it.

This may be a coincidence, but, I recently purchased some pure Perique,
for blending with other tobaccos. Despite my tobacconist's warnings to
the contrary, I tried a bowlful "neat"; my wife said the room-aroma was
very nutty and chocolatey, which was to some extent mirrored in the
taste; but the overwhelming sensation was of pepper at the back of my
tongue & throat; I had to stop before I was 1/3 way through the bowl.
Sure enough a drink took the sensation away. Maybe the C&D's "Dark
Chocolate" you mentioned uses Perique for the chocolate (which I find
is quite prominent with Perique, even "in the jar").

I'd be interested to hear of other experiences with Perique.

Mike B


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From: John Haas <????????????????????????????????> (by way of Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>)
Subject: Sheesah Tobacco

Hello there,
        I have an Egyptian water pipe called a Sheesha.  I am having
trouble finding tobacco for it though.  I was wondering if you sold that
or if you know some one who does.  If so please let me know.  Thank You.
John Haas ????????????????????????????????


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"Giving the power to interfere in people's lives to a government is
like giving a three-year-old a hammer; they soon discover that
everything they encounter requires pounding."

				- Author unknown
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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #218 -- June 14, 1996
  2. Subject: Re: tacoma.net status
  3. Subject: Second hand smoke
  4. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996
  5. Subject: Eatin' Park
  6. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996
  7. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996
  8. Subject: Pipe cases
  9. Subject: Heloise on the Pipes Digest?
  10. Subject: Meerschaum
  11. Subject: The cigar enjoyed
  12. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996
  13. Subject: good english
  14. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996
  15. Subject: Swallowing
  16. Subject: Change of Address
  17. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996
  18. Subject: Thanks, New address et al.
  19. Subject: Pipes Digest
  20. Subject: Cigar Store II
  21. Subject: Kudos to McClelland and Butera...
  22. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996
  23. Subject: (no subject)
  24. Subject: Pipe Smoker's Mailing list
  25. Subject: An information request
  26. Subject: Pipes Digest mailing list
  27. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #217 -- June 3, 1996
  28. Subject: Pipe Digest
  29. Subject: cigar get together
  30. Subject: Idea..
  31. Subject: pipe company
  32. Subject: Re: Tongue Bite v. Peppery Taste
  33. Subject: Sheesah Tobacco
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