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Subject: Pipes Digest #219 -- June 30, 1996

		  Pipes Digest #219 -- June 30, 1996
   Copyright (C) 1996 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 2302

Welcome to new members:

	John McCluer
	Derrick Young
	John J. Champa, Ph. D.
	Richard Estenoz
	Sam Reames
	David Piekarski
	Howard T. Parsons Jr.
	Cara Weston
	Bruce Godsey
	Robin Newberry
	Laurent Gloaguen
	Eddie Starnater
	Larry Furr
	Stig Bordsenius
	Phillip Laughlin-Richard
	Robert McCurry
	Lawrence Best
	Alex Hoffmaster
	Mike Young
	Bradley S. Johnson
	Dave Baugh
	Benson Stone
	Mike Hogue
	Bryan Marriott
	Barry Herbach
	Jim Riederer
	Stuart Kaiser
	Sean Smith
	Mark Stern
	Adam Klyce
	Steve Beaty
	Rob Mackay
	Markus Zwahlen
	Eddie Parker
	Blair T. Hinson
	Jonathan D. Pettus
	Gregory Woodward Luce
	Gregory Barnett
	Roger Batista
	Roger Roberts
	Bill Brown
	Bijan Kafi
	Andreas Heyden
	Tom Hutchins
	Mr. Lyn Berry
	Gyorgy Sos
	Chris Bailey
	Wil Jones
	Emilio Fischman
	Tony Dirocco
	Paul Frommeyer
	David Geerinck
	Ramberg One
	Paul Frommeyer
	Guy Navarro Jr.

ADMIN:  The Web site, http://www.pipes.org/, is once again out of the
breakdown lane and rolling on the Information Supercollider.  Thanks
to Steve Beaty and Vince Calloway for their support during the crisis,
and see Steve's letter below.

And welcome to our "once in a blue moon" issue, for June 30 is a "blue
moon" (the second full moon in a calendar month, at least in some time
zones.)  So, if you can see the moon (which I can't; it's been raining
all day), take a little while to light up and contemplate.

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	    Help Stop Prohibition  --  Keep Tobacco Legal

		      Call  --  Write  --  Vote

			Then, smoke in peace.

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: web page news

Steve and all,

        a couple of updates:

        1) the web page is back up and working.
        2) there were several small glitches due to the move and i'd like to
thank people for pointing them out to me.  searching and subscribing should
be working again.
        3) i've reset the counter at the bottom of the page to reflect both
changes in the web counting method and the moving to the new site.
        4) the old address at tacoma.net is no longer working.  update those
pointers if you have them!

        thanks to everyone (especially Vince Calloway, who provides the site
free of charge to us all) who helped in this transition!

Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                 ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA        http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/

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From: ??????????? (rob denholtz)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #218 -- June 14, 1996


        I have just learned from a Pipe Club of London friend that Tilshead
has closed its doors.  80,000 pounds in debt and no recouperation in sight.
No more Tilsheads or James Upshalls.  Hang on to the ones you've got!!

                                        Rob Denholtz
                                        FINE OLDE BRIARS

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From: "John A. Landry" <???????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Clay

In Pipes Digest #218, Andrew Sullivan said...

[ Re: Pipe-claying various military items in past centuries ]

> Ah, for the days when one could expect a ready supply of pipe-clay in the
> neighbourhood...

So did they carry a supply of fresh pipe clay on the ships in order to make
their own pipes when out on patrol at sea for several years?  Or did they use
the remains of old ground up broken pipes for their source of pipe clay for
whitening purposes? 

Happy smoke rings,


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From: "Andrew J. Sullivan" <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipe Clay (fwd)

[ Quote from above letter. -S. ]

It is not precisely true that ships would be on patrol for several years, 
since part of the point of having an Empire was to have possesions in all 
corners of the globe; that way, there'd be lots of places to stop to get 
fresh water, extra rum rations, etc.

Note, too, that most of the time neither sailors nor army regulars 
had to be in "full dress".  Generally, inspections would not occur every 
day; and, I've seen some evidence to suggest that British Army regulars 
were not required to change their shirts except on Wednesday and Sunday.  
"Shorts" (i.e. underwear) were not issued; the shirts merely had long 
tails, which were generally tied between the legs.

Probably there were supplies of pipe-clay available wherever a regiment 
went; there were always hangers-on who could make a few fast bucks by 
selling goods to the soldiers.  But given the hygene of the men, 
"pipe-clay neat" may not have been terribly neat at all!

Sweet smoke,

Andrew Sullivan     | "Culture is activity of thought, and receptiveness to
????????????????????| beauty and humane feeling.  Scraps of information  
McMaster University | have nothing to do with it."  A.N. Whitehead 
Ontario, Canada     |

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From: W TRAVIS HALL JR <????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Digest #218 response

Just wanted to take a minute to respond to a query by Sergio Jordao in PD
#218 about really old clay pipes.
During the 18th and early 19th centuries, a lot of clays were locally made.
Now these weren't the fine white clay churchwardens that you'll often see in
Colonial recreations, but thick bowled 'working' pipes, often made from
local clay. They were usually very short with no stem to speak of. A friend
of mine in college gave me one that he'd dug up near Lynchburg, Va. It was
of local red clay, and had, as I recall, a floral design on the bowl. The
general practice was to attach a hollow reed, and use that as the stem. I'll
bet the pipe Sergio was given has a similar history. If Sergio decides to
smoke it, or even display it, he could probably fashion a rustic reed stem.
Thanks again for providing a wonderful forum for followers of the pipe.
Regards, Travis
A little nonsense now and then is cherished by the wisest men!

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From: "John A. Landry" <???????????????????>
Subject: Swallowing While Smoking

In Pipes Digest #218, Eric Francoeur said...

> I found this little piece of wisdom in your pipe-smoking FAQ
> "You may find the pipe getting a little juicy as you smoke. To avoid
> this, try to keep your mouth dry as you smoke, and avoid swallowing."

> While the idea is clear, the underlying principles leave me a bit 
> puzzled, especially the "avoid swallowing" part. I do seem to produce a 
> lot of saliva when I smoke. Swallowing it seems to be the thing to do, 
> although it does sometimes ressults in a slightly irritated oesophagus (I
> guess the liquid does carry some of the nasty stuff). The other solutions are
> to drool or spit it out, neither of which strike me as being elegant or
> approriate. Any advice or ideas would be welcome.

I take the suggestion to mean that you should avoid swallowing while the stem 
of the pipe is actually in your mouth.  It's sort of hard to avoid getting 
saliva into the pipe stem in that situation.

Happy smoke rings,


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From: Kevin Malloy <??????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #218 -- June 14, 1996

Steve:  Firstly, count me on the CDROM...great idea.  Secondly, planning a
trip to Niagara Falls this summer with the kids.  Wondering if anyone knows
a good tobacconist in the area......Do not have access to any in the
immediate area of my home town.  Any info. would be greatly appreciated.

Keep up the great work.


[ Thanks, Kevin!  We also had favorable comments on the CD-ROM from
many other members, below.  BTW, if there's anyone on the group who
would like to produce a CD-ROM commercially, please give us a yell.  I
think there's some potential for a product here, especially for the
burgeoning cigar market. I would be glad to help out, provided that a
portion of the profits is given to an agreeable charity (perhaps Cap
Cure), the addresses are stripped, and it doesn't turn into a black
hole for time.  The Digest is a hobby for me, and I don't wish to make
a personal profit from it -- or to take a big personal loss, either! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????? (Johnson, Bill)
Subject: CD-ROM


     Count me in as one who likes the idea of a Pipes Digest CD-ROM. 
 Actually, I have all the past Pipes Digests on my hard drive.  But I'd love 
to see a CD-ROM that included pictures (.gif or .jpg) of pipes and cigars; 
 perhaps even some clip-art (.pcx, etc.) of pipes, cigars, and pipe & cigar 

     Go for it!

Good Ol' BillyBob
Rebel Without A Clue

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From: Marc Reckinger <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Grant Porter's idea of a CD-ROM

Hi folks,

I just found Pipes Digest #218 in my mail, and I just overflew it, and
I found Grant Porter's message, and I would like to declare my
interest in such a CD-ROM, because I'm still a pipe novice, not yet
clean from cigarette smoking, and I have loaded down from Compuserve
onto my harddisk all issues of the Pipes Digest starting with #132,
and via my file finder I've found many answers on my questions, which
I didn't find in my books. Sometimes I simply start reading old
issues; it's interesting, specially as I see, that other people
have/had the same problems and unanswered questions as I (is that
correct English??).  So, I would immediately buy a CD-ROM with the
older issues of the PD and eventually some general informations about
pipes, tobacco...

Smoke in peace,

Marc Reckinger from Luxembourg
P.S.: (Is there anyone else from here?)

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From: David Chesler <?????????????????>
Subject: PDCD

 I would buy a copy of a PDCD for up to $15.
 BTW, I've got a 1-year-old at home -- I reduced to drinking my coffee 
out of a can, or from the machine at work, so I'm going to ask for 
indulgence on smoking cigarettes (but only Nat Sherman or Turkish 
Special) in the car or out back.
  - David Chesler (???????????????, etc.)

[ You have our indulgence, and our best wishes, but be careful with
them things... -S. ]

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From: "Dave Tainer" <???????????????>
Subject: CD-ROM, Ireland, cigars&pipes, and the meaning of life...

Dear Steve,

I enjoy reading PD; it always breaks up a boring business day, that's for 
sure.  As for your straw poll, I would find a CD-ROM with that wealth of 
information useful.

Now on to some personal matters.  I subscribed to PD more for the cigar aspect 
rather than the pipe subject matter, but I have to say that I have become 
interested in pipe smoking now.  My wife is travelling to Ireland next month 
and she asked what I would like her to bring me back.  Knowing that Peterson 
is there, I suggested she bring me back a Peterson pipe.  I have not smoked a 
pipe before (not really) and I was wondering if this would be a good way to go 
about getting started.  Is there a Peterson shop in any of the big cities in 
Ireland or would you just go to any tobacco shop?  Any help in this area, 
particularly by the Irish members of PD would be gratefully appreciated.

On a somewhat related note, I have a corn-cob pipe (Missouri Meerschaum) that 
was given to me as a gag gift a couple of years ago: is that worth smoking?  
Would it put me off of pipe smoking or would it serve as a good training 
device for my Peterson (and make me appreciate it more!).

I've been smoking cigars since a trip to Amsterdam in the late eighties when I 
picked up a Cuban Montecristo on a lark and was enchanted by the incredible 
flavor.  I never smoked cigarrettes and I always thought that a cigar was just 
a big cigarrette; how wrong I was.  I've enjoyed many a cigar since, although 
the Montecristos are few and far between because of our country's silly little 
embargo.  (Hopefully, a few of these might find their way into my humidor via 

Keep up the good work, Steve.

Dave Tainer

[ Missouri Meerschaums are definitely worth smoking, though they don't
last forever.  I've been thinking about getting one of the "MacArthur"
types myself, for fun.  (Though I can't wear the Ray-Bans or the gold
braid!)  BTW, there were interesting articles about both the Missouri
Meerschaum Company and Douglas MacArthur in the current issue of
"Pipes and Tobacco." -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????????????
Subject: Pipe Digest Query

Hello Steve.  Thanks for adding me to the subscription list.  I enjoy 
reading the Digest very much.  In response to your recent query-I would be 
interested in obtaining a CD Rom of past issues, if it could be done at a 
reasonable cost.

Also could you, or anyone else help me to find out some information about a 
recent pipe I acquired.  It is  a Prebem Holm Hallmark H-2 Made in Denmark. 
 It is a very beautiful Freehand, rather on the large side that I recently 
picked up.  It smokes wonderfully and is a joy to hold as well.  I was 
quite pleased to add it to my smallish collection that also includes
Savinelli, Lorenzo, and Mastro de Paja.  I am particulary interested in 
finding out more regarding price, manufacture, etc...as well as detaild 
about the company and availability of others. 

Thank you very much for the Digest and your assistance in this matter.


John Alexander

"To thine own self, be true".

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From: ???????????????


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From: Stephen Eagle <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #218 -- June 14, 1996

Steve thank you for this new issue.  To be quite honest with you, I did 
not have any idea what exactly you and the group were about initially.
I continue to be pleasently suprised each month to find the new issue in 
my mailbox.  Several of the chaps had questions and inquiries that I feel 
pressed to contribute an answer to and will get to those each in turn 
later this week.  In the meantime, please continue to include me in your 
mailings.  Best of the month to you and the chaps, and may God include 
you in his blessings-  Stephen Eagle    ????????????????????

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From: Brandon Dawson <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #218 -- June 14, 1996

Bonjour Steve!

  This is my first post, I'm a 24 year old American ( Idaho), working
as a missionary/University teacher, in Switzerland for 6 months.  I've
been smoking pipes and cigars about 5 years, and it just keeps getting
better.  My pipe collection is slowly growing... I've got about 8,
including an SMS meershchaum, a couple of hand-made Lithuanian and
Russian novelties, and a nice English BBS that I quite enjoy, but my
current favorite is a great Mullins & Westley bulldog that I picked up
in London last month.  What an adventure it's been scouring Eruope for
the best tobacconists!  My current favorite is "Alexandre Senn,
Tabacs-Cigares" on the Rue de Bourg in Lausanne, Switzerland.  Great
selection, both pipes and cigars.  (the prices for Cubans over here
are obscenely low compared to the States...  but...  Cubans in the
States?.... well, you didn't hear it from me).

Anyway, the reason I'm writing is in response to :

<From: "Carl Hurley" <?????????????????????>
<Subject: dunhill pipes in England>

I didn't read the actual post, just another response in PD #218, so
forgive me if this is redundant: I spent two days in London last
month, just passing through on my way back to Switzerland, and went on
a treck for the best tobacconists.  Unfortuantely, I was there over a
weekend, and most were closed, but I did find a small shop in Covent
Garden.  Very friendly, and helpful.  I bought a nice Bulldog there
for a fraction of what I'd have paid in the states.  But they also
have some very nice Dunhill and Savinelli's, for less than what you'd
actually have paid in the Dunhill shop.  (let's all just observe a
moment of silence in respect for the AMAZING humidor in the Dunhill
shop...  )  So, there you go.  don't know the address, but it's on the
north-west side of Covent Garden.  Hope this helps.

Smoke 'em if ya got 'em...
Brandon "Gandolf" Dawson

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From: ????????????????? (James W. Murray)
Subject: Balkan Sobranie


Thanks for the subscription! I've been reading the Pipes Digest for several
years now, but never got around to signing up. Anyway, some quick news
about the situation regarding Balkan Sobranie. I read in the latest issue
(#218) that Balkan Sobranie was going to be discontinued. Well this news
seems correct. While down at my local tobacconist (Edleeze in Albany, NY),
I purchased a pouch of Balkan Sobranie Origibal Mixture and was told by the
owner of the shop that this line of pipe tobacco was being removed from the
U.S. market.

She told me the reason was two fold. First, the rise in tobacco taxes and
importation costs have made it difficult to continue to import. Second, the
rising number of law suits the company has been involved in. What these law
suits are all about? I don't know! But I do know that if you like these
blends, you'd better buy up a good supply. It seems like the supply is
already starting to dry up. Once the current supply is gone, the only place
it will be available will be the United Kingdom and Canada. Maybe?????

I hope this news will help my fellow pipe smokers to stock up on this
blend. It's to bad that it has to come to this.

"Life is too short to smoke cheap cigars (or pipe tobacco for that matter)"

Jim Murray
Schencetady, NY

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From: Antti Kalliokoski <?????????????>
Subject: pipes and attitudes

Greetings from the land of the midnight sun to all the pipe smokers of P.D.

Again some time has elapsed since my latest mail to this list. I see the
number of subscribers to be already more than 2.200 aficionados of the
pleasures of Nicotiana Tabacum in its various forms. 

We are today an endangered species. Most governments and fellow human beings
see us as class-B citiziens. The attitude toward us is growing more and more
negative and hostile every day. Non smoking people have recognized the risks
of so called passive smoking very well indeed, at least here in Scandinavia
and Northern Europe, even in the U.S.A., where smoking once was thought as a
typical characteristic of the American way of life.

In this group we see smoking as an interesting hobby, many of us even an
integral element in our attitude to life. We know the health risks but still
fill our pipes with heavy Latakia blends, enjoy the aroma and the beautiful
grain of old briar. Fellow citiziens are fully unaware of these esoteric
pleasures and the hidden knowledge therein. We are categorized to belong to
the stinking group of filthy smokers, which is endangering the "better
people's" healthy, towards immortality striving pursuits. Health has become
a new god of contemporary life in western societies. For many people it is
ununderstandable that for some persons there even may exist other values
than health. (Besides, what about the average expectancy of life among pipe
smoking American men compared with the non smokers?)
Despite all this, let us behave as considerate smokers when we interact with
these ignorant people :)

Okay, okay, now that I have got this burst out of my anxious heart I am
feeling better already. I must say that I am very grateful to Steve M. and
all the fellow smokers about this list, which even seems to have some
therapeutic value for its members :)

Lately I have been smoking C&D's #507, Shandygaff. As Craig writes: "507 has
a generous portion of a mixture of Dutch type tobaccos with a little flavor.
It's about 1/4 Turkish with some Perique and cavendish cut burley thrown in
for good measure". Although it has no Latakia in it, I find Shandygaff quite
tasty, try it! I think that people who like #414, Oriental Silk, might find
it useful to experiment even with a sample of #507.

Now as I am a proud owner of two old Ben Wade freehands, I feel almost a
personal sorry and sadness about Preben Holm's untimely death.
If there are members, who are willing to abandon a Ben Wade, please contact
me (?????????????).

At the end of July I am starting again my annual three weeks' hiking and
fishing trip in the vidda of Lapland. (Remember the story of "A pipe
smoker's agony in the wilderness", in which I told about the terrible
situation of finding out that the main stock of pipe tobacco was
forgotten?). I think I must have a pound of some pressed blend with me this
time, because in pressed form the tobacco is handy in the rucksack. It goes
in a small space and does not dry as easily as loose tobak.

I'll tell about my trip in September, when the nights are again getting
darker here and my consumption of good pipe tobacco is increasing in spite
of the "better people's" disapproval.

Antti Kalliokoski (?????????????)

[ I have a feeling that those who have Ben Wades will be hanging onto
them; I know I will! -S. ]

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From: "Philip H. Burrus, IV" <????????????????????????>
Subject: Cigar Store II

Mr. Davis,

In the last issue of Pipes Digest you wrote:

>From: Carl Davis <??????????????????????????>
>Subject: Cigar Store II
>I was wondering if you knew of any place other than Thompson's that sells 
>the Cigar Store II.  I found the Pipe's Digest that had the maker of the 
>CigarStor (the original one) wrote to you and I tried to email that 
>address but it did not work.  Thanks for any help you can provide. 

I make the CigarStor. Back around Christmas, we decided that a far improved,
more attractive, larger and more effective CigarStor could be made available
for about the same price as the original CigarStor. Hence the birth of
CigarStor II.

Well, to make a relatively long story short, we had some difficulty with
tooling which lived up to our expectations. We have been refining and are
finally at the point where an accaptable tool is complete.

The delay has been a great headache to us, as it has to Thompson. There are
many back orders for CigarStor II. We feel, however, that it is better to be
patient and produce quality than to ship inferior goods. I think you'll be
very pleased when you see CigarStor II.

Let me apologize again for the inconvenience. If you need any more
information about CigarStor II or need info about tobacconists which carry
our products, feel free to contact me.

Philip Burrus

Steve -
If it's not too much trouble, please update the E-mail for Concept IV, Inc.
in the product list to : ????????????????????????


Philip H. Burrus, IV                         (864) 638-4916
Multimeasurement & Systems               fax:(864) 639-4900
313-B North Highway 11
West Union, South Carolina  29696  ????????????????????????

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest

Just wanted to drop a line and make folks who may be interested aware of a
web page project I have put together (and will be updating as often as I
can).  It's all about Peterson Pipes, my personal faves, including shape
charts for those who have often wondered what a #106 looks like when they
read a for sale post online.  The address is


If you're a Peterson fan, visit the page, and drop me a line.  Let me know
what you think, and what you'd like to see added!

Ed Price
Dallas, Texas
                       |  A glass is good, and a lass is good,
                       |  And a pipe to smoke in cold weather;
                       |  The world is good, and the people are good,
                       |  And we 're all good fellows together.
                       |    John O'Keefe (1747-1833)

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From: ????????????????
Subject: CIGARS

We are a trading company trying to sell a 100% Puerto Rican cigar.  We have 8
different types.  Five hand made and three machine made.  If anyone is
interested please respond at ?????????????????

I would also like some more information about cigars, if possible.

Thank you
Jose. R Rosario

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From: Chuck Basso <????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe digestions

First, a (second) unfortunate occurrence, with a question:
  What the heck does Dunhill put in "Royal Yacht?"  The tin tells me it's
"Exceedingly mild with a grand rich flavour."  I won't deny that it's tasty,
but on both occasions I've tried it I had to make a beeline for the
lavatory.  The first occasion I ascribed to a large pipe and a Bad Pipe Day.
This second problem I can only put down to the tobacco.  85% of the tin
left, and I don't dare go near it!

Second, a ray of sunshine:
  I remembered riding a bus twice a day past a shop in Royal Oak, Michigan
called the Malaga Pipe Company.  Seeing as this was almost twenty years ago
(and I didn't smoke a pipe then, being something like nine years old), I
figured that the shop had gone the way of all good things, but figured since
I was visiting family in Madison Heights last weekend, I'd drive by anyhow
and take a look.  To my surprise, the firm is still in the business (third
generation!) of making pipes, and a friendlier propreitor there never was.
(I grew up in the area, so we had a nice chat and remembered many of the
same things; we both bemoaned the "Ann Arborization" of Royal Oak.)  He
carries probably thirty-five bulk tobaccos and a smattering of tins.  I
purchased two of the Malaga pipes, and impressions follow:

        1.  A nice bent bulldog "first" in a reddish color.  A
larger-diameter tobacco hole than most bulldogs (which I prefer), and nice
mixed (mostly flame) grain, with a lucite bit.  Light and comfortable.
        2.  A "second," which I'd describe as a short prince.  This pipe is
beautifully (nearly straight) grained, with a natural finish.  Even with a
small sand pit or two, this piece of briar makes the green-eyed monster
evident in just about all the pipe types at my regular tobacconist in Toledo.

  And better yet, these are absolutely the driest pipes I own!  I'm still
breaking them in, and I have needed ONE pipe cleaner during a dozen smokes -
when a shred of leaf got into the draft hole of the "second".  Fully as dry
as my old Sasieni eight-dot.  Better than my Upshall.  Better than my

  I haven't got the latest iteration of the Resource Guide, so here's the
        Malaga Briar Pipe Co., Inc.
        1406 E. Eleven Mile Rd.
        Royal Oak, Michigan  48067
        (810) 542-5000

  I can only hope that (like many fine tobaccos) the Malaga pipe doesn't
fall victim to Herblock's Law.

Regards from "sunny" Toledo, 
Chuck Basso, S.M.	Optical Mineralogist	Toledo, Ohio
DNRC Titles:  Tyrant of Ohio and
	      Obergruppenfuhrer of the Rust Belt Legion
"He smokes his pipe, allaying heart and mind
 And for tonight all injuries are healed."

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From: "Brad Williams" <?????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Ramblings.

It's been a while since I have had time to read any digests, but I
just read the last ten or so -- and here, in no particular order, are
my contributions and thoughts on what has gone before.  My apologies
for comments on topics long-dead.

Re:  Pipe smoking and flyfishing.  I am truly impressed with anybody 
who can successfully flyfish a stream and smoke a pipe at the same 
time.  I smoke pipes, and I flyfish (if you can call it that - I 
catch an awful lot of tree branches and other choice overhead 
obstacles) but I cannot imagine the hilarity that would ensue should 
I try to combine the two.  And unless I had the pipe on a zinger (a 
little cord thingy that you attach to your vest and whatever you 
don't want to drop in the stream, for you non-flyfishers) I would 
probably lose as many pipes as I do flies.  I don't think I could 
afford that.

Re: "pipies".  I've seen this one at least a few times reading 
through the digests, although it probably stood out more with the 
effect of reading several at one sitting.  I'm sure we can come up 
with something to call each other that's not quite so cutsie.  
Please, please, can we?

The digest has become a touchstone for me to the world of pipe 
smoking.  I realized how long it's been since I've smoked my pipes.  
And I realized that I miss it.  I appreciate the digest and all its 
submissions -- I've learned more than I would have guessed here.  
That reminds me.  I did have another topic.  A question, really:

As I haven't smoked in a while, all of my pipe tobacco currently 
looks and feels like little bags of tumbleweed clippings: bone dry 
bone bone dry.  Is there a good method for reconstituting tobacco 
that has been ignored by its owner?  If not, I won't be too upset - I 
don't have that much stuff on hand - and it would be a good excuse to 
go to the tobacconist...  (Gee, that's a nice-looking pipe - I really 
could use another pipe - I'm sure Katy won't notice one more in the 
rack)  For that matter, do I really need an excuse? 


Brad Williams

[ As long as the tobacco hasn't turned to powder, you can seal it in
an airtight container and apply a little bit of water every couple of
days until it has rehumidified.  Just run your hand under a faucet and
shake the water droplets onto the tobacco, thn re-seal. Thanks to
Craig, who told me that one.  -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Info for the resource guide and a few miscellaneous thoughts

Dear Steve;

     I just downloaded your most recent Resource Guide and have a few items
which you may wish to add.

     First, in Denver, the best pipe, cigar and tobacco shop I have found is
"Prince Philip's Pipes and Tobaccos" in the Tamarac Square Shopping Mall
Telephone (303) 695 - 1959.  The tobacco selection is excellent and they have
a modest but good quality selection of pipes and cigars.  Also, they are the
home of the only Denver Cigar and Pipe Club I know of, The Knights of the
Mystic Leaf.  The Knights meet every few months for a gourmet dinner and
cigar sampling party at local restaurants.  The owner is trying to put a pipe
dinner together but has had little luck to this point in convincing pipe and
tobacco distributors to atttend a dinner like this.  I highly recommend
Prince Philip's and the Knights.

     The other item for your attention is that there used to be a fantastic
Pipe and Tobacconist Chain in Central New York called The Briar Route.  The
headquarters was in Syracuse and the owners, Chris Buffis and Jerry Miller,
really knew the tobacco business and kept the highest standards in their
shops.  They had an absolutely first rate pipe and tobacco selection.  I
don't know if they are still in business, but if so, they should definitely
be listed in your resource guide.  Perhaps if there are any subscribers to
Pipes Digest from Syracuse they could relate the current status of the chain
and give out an address.  I know I would sure like to find their address.

     By the way have you noticed the hypocracy that many fervent anti-smokers
have towards kids smoking.  I remember that, when I went to high scool in the
early '70's, one of the first things I was told by the teachers and
administrators was where the smoking area was.  All students, even the
non-smokers like I was, accepted that it was no big deal if their fellow
students smoked or not.  And everyone knew, even then, how "bad" the doctors
and the Surgeon General thought smoking was for their health. Now suddenly
these kids are twenty years older and the standards they lived under and
accepted are not good enough for their and my kids.  What hypocracy!  My 16
year old daughter smokes cigarettes and I have no problem with it.  Maybe
these people need to learn the meaning of the term consistency!

Take care and Happy Smoking!

Tim O'Hare

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From: ?????????????????? (Sami Mikhail)
Subject: (Fwd) DFW Area Pipe Smokers, quick report.

Hi Gang:

I hope you will tolerate a little bandwidth usage for something that may 
not be of interest to everyone, but I figure it might a) encourage others 
to attend and/or b) encourage others to start a local group.

So: There were six of us in attendance.

Brief Summary: It was great! We plan to do it every Third Wednesday, at The 
Londonner in Addison. If you need meeting/direction details please email 

Verbose Summary:

The six of us found each other fairly easily: We were the only ones walking 
around the pub with pipes in hand. (Oh and one Cigar). We gathered, we 
greeted and that was that for the formalities.

We swapped stories about our favorite/worst Tobaccoes, Pipes, beers, 
liquors, women^H^H^H^H^H^H, local/mailorder Tobacconists etc etc.

David Quisenberry brough some tobaccoes for all us to sample: Stanhope from 
C&D, Dunbar from Esoterica. Yours truly showed off his latest aquisitions 
from the Dallas PCI show. (Aside: we unanimously agreed the show could have 
used more advertising, we hope to be able to help with that in the future 
-- but that may be a Pipe Dream :) )

It was fun to get confirmation that Pipe smokers truly are great people. 
Everybody was very friendly and pleasant.


Turns out that not only do most of us read avidly, but we have some very 
similar tastesin authors and genres. There was a napkin writing incident 
which I promised not to bring up, so I won't :). If anyone knows Art 
Larson, and is in touch with him, please tell him he has a very charming 

If any of y'all have any non-net friends in the area whom you think would 
be interested, please drop me their name and numbers. I would be more than 
glad to call them.

If you have any questions, comments, or concerns please let me know. 8D

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From: Klobal <????????????????????>
Subject: I need more in put please. (ufo)

I've found your page every interesting.I enjoy smoking my Rolex,but I 
find the bowl to be just alittle to big,I also enjoy my corncobs,but I 
smoke'em hot and they won't last much more then a couple of months.I've 
enjoyed many pipes from corncobs to briar inserts.I've tried tabaccos in 
all the flavors that I can think of.( thanks to Bill Davis smoke shop.)
I have a list of tabaccos that not only taste good but they smell good to
but the one thing I've alway wanted to do is carve my oun briar pipe.
but I only have one problem I can't find any one who sell a kit.can you 
help me.
                 George A.Sjostrom

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From: ??????????????????????? (redbat)
Subject: Pipe racks

U am sure I won't be the only one who gets this. The C part of the rack is
made by using either a spade bit or Forstner bit of 3/4 inch diameter in a
drill to make the holes. The board can be a narrow board, in which case you
leave it the way it is, and you have a hole to surround the bit, or you cut
it down the middle and you have two pieces. 

[ I guess I'll just have to try it and see for myself! -S. ]

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From: ??????????? (Mark Tinsky)
Subject: success

Hi Steve

Happy to report completion of the two bowl pipe. ^The bowls are 1.5" high
and have a depthe of 1 1/4 ".
Overall length is about 7". ( with stem) Best of all the weight is under 2
oz and its quite comfortable to hold in the mouth. The pipe is virtually
flawless and I can finish naturally if that s ok . Pipe will darken as you
smoke it and will look better and better as its smoked. I chickened out  on
the real flat oval shank as I  ws afraid to hit an airhole. Its slightly
ovalled instead. Pipe sits flat also. Still have to make  murder bite stem
and polish. This may be the only pipe I ve ever made where I used files;
tools I had airlirly dismissed as woodcarving tools and not used by
pipemakers ! I needed them , however.

I SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAIL TO YOU MON.If you ll provide a snail address. I
mentioned it to Chet and he wants to see a pix. As i don t own a camera its
up to you to satisfy him if you so choose.

I was so glad about the pipeI undertook a chore(lesson) that I had been
putting off. This is that story:

Well this evening I did something completely different.  spent hours tying
knots. Yup knots. In fly fishing there are a couple of totaly nec. knots
you need to be able to tie while standing in a rushing torrent , over your
waist, wedging a 9' flexible fishing rod under your arm in the wind. You
are tying knots using clear line maybe the width of human hair. For someone
with good manual dexterity its not easy, fror someone as undextorous as I
am its near fuckin impossible. Sometimes i spent more time attempting to
tie than I do fishing . Most of the time I resort to just many regular
knots, like in shoe tying, not really recommended.

So yesterday I bought a little do - jiggy which was supposed to make knot
tying easy; it even has a video, which i didn t purchase, but did come with
a book.Time for a pipe!

I have been graced with the ability to catch footballs, hit raquet balls
and punch and kick people with a fair degree of success. However when it
comes to threading needles, soldering wires , and manipulating small
objects I m a total spazz.. I n order to make up for my natural
defeciencies I practiced tying knots all day with my little do jiggy. To
make a long tedious story short, after starting with string and tying then
moving to regular fishing line and finally to fly line I was able to learn
two knots in approx 4 hours.This is a major accomplishment for me. Sadly I
was only able to do thi under bright light, no wind, and calmly seated at a
table with both elbows conveniently anchored. Hardly the conditions I ll
encounter on the river sumarize above. Practice makes perfect!

We had some big T storms tonight. I kept the computer unplugged untl just
now. Had a nice, but slow dinner out. Lot of fog and mist out tonite.
Sunset where you could see it was pretty. Good nite MT

Mark Tinsky
HC-88 Box 223
30 Tall Oaks
Pocono Lake, PA. 18347
 web address:

[ Thanks, Mark, and see below for the other end of the story on the
2-bowl! -S. ]

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From: Steve Masticola (????????????????????????)
Subject: 2-bowl experiences

Hi, all,

As I put this issue of the Digest together, I'm breaking in an in-line
2-bowl pipe that Mark Tinsky (???????????) carved as a special order
for me.  I've been curious about both two-bowls and Mark's work for
quite some time, and decided to put one and one together.

The pipe is based loosely on one that appeared in the Summer-Autumn
1995 issue of the Ephemeris, made by Mr. Marshall of Millville
Ltd. and owned by O.F.W. Fisher.  It's a beauty -- a straight stem
with two apple bowls, in line, about six inches long, with a natural
finish and a great-looking tight grain pattern with some birdseyes.
The bowls are separated by about a half inch of thicker stem.

The pipe has a flat bottom so it will stand up on a desk.  Mark
supplied two stems, a P-stem and a flat, crunch-resistant one.  Both
stems are inlaid with a ring of wood and a small silver star cased in
lucite.  I've so far only used the P-bit.  

Mark and I both had fun with the design, which we did by email, and
his execution was as flawless as almost any human activity can be.
One bowl is sliiiiightly thicker than the other, but that's all.  As
was to be expected, there are a couple of minor sand pits, which I
asked Mark not to fill.  I've taken photos, which I hope Mark will put
on his Web page, if they come out.

So what's it like to smoke a multi-engine briar?  Well, it's an
experience for the advanced amateur, not for the beginner.  I'm
learning all over again how to keep a pipe lit!

It's nice and cool, if both bowls are burning.  Keeping them both
burning has required some attention.  One or the other of the bowls
won't stay lit unless they are packed just right.  This means packing
it proportionally, so the outer one draws a bit harder than the inner

I'm still playing with the packing.  The first time I smoked it, I put
some McConnell Red Virginia in one bowl and one of Craig Tarler's
blends in the other.  This was a mistake, as it makes it hard to
balance the bowls with two different kinds of tobacco.  The second
time, I used one blend in both bowls; this seems to give better
results.  Hopefully, after a few hours, the technique will become
automatic.  Then, I'll play with blending at the time of combustion,
which I'm eager to accomplish.

Last but not least, this is one pipe I'm _never_ going to smoke in the
car.  The police here are on the lookout for drug paraphenalia; the
papers are replete with cars being searched for pot after being
stopped for broken taillights and failure to dim high beams.  So I'd
prefer to look inconspicuous while driving.  But I hope to bring the
Tinsky two-bowl out at a show soon and have some fun with it!  (I'd
love to see the double-takes! :-)

Mark and I have also discussed fitting the pipe, or one like it, with
an in-line screw adjustment for flow balancing.  He assures me that
this is possible, but suggested that experience would help more.  At
this point, I think he's right.

If anyone else here has played with multi-bowls, I'd appreciate
hearing your experiences, and tips on technique.  Until next issue,

			Smoke in peace,
			~\UU Steve.

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From: Chet Gottfried <?????????????????>
Subject: How to tempt a pipe maker

Hi Steve,

I put up the page I mentioned to you the other day: how to tempt a pipe
maker, at


but somehow I keep thinking I left something out . . .  Well, it'll probably
occur to me later.

[ Personal note deleted. -S. ]


Look Out: http://www.asb.com/usr/chet/

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: meerschaum

>From: Chuck Basso <[email protected]??.??????.???>
>Subject: Meerschaum

>1.  Everyone knows that meerschaum translates to "sea-foam."  Why?  Due to
>its low specific gravity (1-2 times the weight of water) and considerable
>porosity, it will commonly float.  Romantic allusions aside, this seems the
>most plausible of all the explanations I have seen for the name.

Actually, in "Tobacco Leaves" (published in 1915 by Index Press), the
author W.A. Brennan explains the origin of the name in the idea that
the substance we call meerschaum was thought to be fossilized sea-foam
(!) I don't have the book in front of me, but there are references to
other publications that he cites as his sources. If you would like
those references, send me e-mail.

There's even a lovely little anecdote about the first meerschaum pipe
being made, which I will transcribe if there is interest. (It's a GREAT
little book, if a bit outdated in some of its technical and economic

--Kurt Ackermann

Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                 ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA        http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/

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From: Antti Kalliokoski <?????????????>
Subject: The smell from resting pipes

Hi again everybody,

I have a nasty question to ask. The aroma coming from pipe I am puffing
doesn't bother at all my wife, who is a cigarette smoker.  On the contrary,
she likes a lot most of the English blends (from C&D) I smoke. The problem
is that she doesn't like a bit the smell of pipes resting in a rack. She
thinks they stink :-(

Do other members in P.D. have similar experiences?
Has somebody invented a solution for this "stinking" problem?
I would like to read about these inventions. Lay your inventions bare,
please!  I'm getting desperate ;-(

Dry ashes!

Antti Kalliokoski (?????????????)

[ After a good cleaning with pure grain alcohol, my pipes don't tend
to smell bad, especially if I put a cleaner in with them.  On the
other hand, my wife doesn't care for the aroma of pre-smoked tobacco
in the ashtray... -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????? (Louis F. Carbone)
Subject: (Fwd) The N.Y. Pipe Show

On Jun 27, 1996 15:24:54 in <alt.smokers.pipes>, 'Sam Barnett
<?????????????????????????>' wrote: 
There have been more requests for additional info 
than I wish to handle on an individual basis,so, I 
am posting the complete details. I am new to all of 
this and I appologize if this violates any rules of 
good conduct. 
The N.Y. Pipeclub presents our 2nd semi-annual Pipe 
Pipemakers, Traders, Collectors, Pipesmokers, 
Retailers, and Importers: You are cordially 
invited to a most exciting event. Take a table 
or just browse. 
Welcome reception-- Friday, Aug. 30,1996 at 7:00 PM 
Free munchies--Cash bar 
Show date-- Saturday, Aug.31, 1996 10:00 AM to 7:00 PM 
Location:  The Ramada Hotel Newark Int'l Airport 
Tables are $50 each. Payment should be sent to : 
             Richard Esserman 
             238 Aycrigg Ave., Unit D 
             Pass^Aaic, NJ 07055 
Master of Ceremonies:  Sailorman Jack 
Louis F. Carbone   ?????????????????????

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #219 -- June 30, 1996
  2. Subject: web page news
  3. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #218 -- June 14, 1996
  4. Subject: Pipe Clay
  5. Subject: Re: Pipe Clay (fwd)
  6. Subject: Pipe Digest #218 response
  7. Subject: Swallowing While Smoking
  8. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #218 -- June 14, 1996
  9. Subject: CD-ROM
  10. Subject: Grant Porter's idea of a CD-ROM
  11. Subject: PDCD
  12. Subject: CD-ROM, Ireland, cigars&pipes, and the meaning of life...
  13. Subject: Pipe Digest Query
  15. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #218 -- June 14, 1996
  16. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #218 -- June 14, 1996
  17. Subject: Balkan Sobranie
  18. Subject: pipes and attitudes
  19. Subject: Cigar Store II
  20. Subject: Pipes Digest
  21. Subject: CIGARS
  22. Subject: Pipe digestions
  23. Subject: Pipe Ramblings.
  24. Subject: Info for the resource guide and a few miscellaneous thoughts
  25. Subject: (Fwd) DFW Area Pipe Smokers, quick report.
  26. Subject: I need more in put please. (ufo)
  27. Subject: Pipe racks
  28. Subject: success
  29. Subject: 2-bowl experiences
  30. Subject: How to tempt a pipe maker
  31. Subject: meerschaum
  32. Subject: The smell from resting pipes
  33. Subject: (Fwd) The N.Y. Pipe Show
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