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Subject: Pipes Digest #222 -- August 25, 1996

		 Pipes Digest #222 -- August 25, 1996
   Copyright (C) 1996 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
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		     Circulation this issue: 2427

Welcome to new members:

	Fredrik Ljungberg
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[ADMIN] I've had recurring trouble sending Digests to the juno.com
ISP, due to the fact that they do not accept mail of the typical
length of the Digest.  If you'd like to receive the Digests on Juno,
please write the postmaster and ask them to provide at least the
services that most competing ISPs do.

[PROHIBITION ALERT] U.S. president Bill Clinton has approved a set of
FDA regulations which will have a negative impact on our hobby. URLs
for the FDA regulations and an excerpt regarding mail-order sales

The bad news is that the regulations classify nicotine as a drug under
FDA's jurisdiction.  The implications are both obvious and ominous.

The regulations further classify cigarettes and smokeless tobacco as
drug delivery devices, and prohibit mail-order sales of cigarettes and
smokeless tobacco (and impose various other restrictions.)

The not-bad-yet news is that this regulation does not appear to
prohibit mail-order sales of cigars and pipe tobacco.  You can still
buy from JR, C&D, Holt's, Iwan Ries, etc. via mail -- for now.

Of course, we don't know what Clinton and Kessler will do if they both
manage to retain their posts.  But recall that two years after
cigarette advertising was banned from U.S. television, cigars and pipe
tobacco were likewise prohibited.

So let's remember in November.

				Smoke in peace,

				~\U Steve.

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	    Help Stop Prohibition  --  Keep Tobacco Legal

		      Call  --  Write  --  Vote

			Then, smoke in peace.

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[ Copied from alt.smokers.cigars, with some edits. -S. ]

From: Steve Masticola <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: clinton

"Richard W. Jones" <?????????????????> writes:

> I heard on the news yesterday (8/23/96) that President Clinton plans to
>follow an FDA proposal to regulate tobacco as a drug.  One effect would be
>to ban the sale of tobacco in vending machines & mail order.

>Does anyone know enough about this proposal to determine whether it will
>prohibit our purchasing of cigars & pipe tobacco from J&R, Cigar Express,
>Holt's, etc?   Or is it a more focused proposal that will simply require
>the dealers to obtain some kind of  claim that the purchaser is over 21
>years of age?

Point your browser to :


for a copy of the proposed regulation (labeled "Regulations
Restricting the Sale and Distribution of Cigarettes and Smokeless
Tobacco Products To Protect Children and Adolescents."*)

The referring page is:


The relevant text:

  Sec. 897.16  Conditions of manufacture, sale, and distribution.
      (a) Restriction on product names. A manufacturer may not use a 
  trade or brand name of a nontobacco product as the trade or brand name 
  for a cigarette or smokeless tobacco product, except for tobacco 
  products on which a trade or brand name of a nontobacco product was in 
  use on January 1, 1995.
      (b) Minimum cigarette package size. No manufacturer, distributor, 
  or retailer shall sell or cause to be sold, distribute or cause to be 
  distributed, any cigarette package that contains fewer than 20 
      (c) Vending machines, self-service displays, mail-order sales, and 
  other ``impersonal'' modes of sale. Cigarettes and smokeless tobacco 
  products may be sold only in a direct, face-to-face exchange between 
  the retailer and the consumer. Examples of methods of sale that are not 
  permitted include, but are not limited, vending machines, self-service 
  displays, mail-order sales, and mail-order redemption of coupons.
      (d) Free samples. Manufacturers, distributors, and retailers may 
  not distribute or cause to be distributed any free samples of 
  cigarettes or smokeless tobacco products.

* Isn't it incredible how so few children have parents who can raise
them as well as the government can?  And what will the government do
to us next on our childrens' behalf?

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[ Obtained from Yahoo. -S. ]

Friday August 23 6:54 AM EDT

Clinton to Announce New Anti-Tobacco Measures

WASHINGTON (Reuter) - President Clinton was set Friday to announce a new
series of restrictions on the sale and advertising of tobacco products in
the biggest challenge to cigarette makers in over 30 years.

White House officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Clinton
would make the announcement during a midday Rose Garden ceremony attended
by a number of anti-smoking, consumer and health groups.

Clinton's aim is to stop what he considers the tobacco industry's attempts
to coax young people into taking up the smoking habit.

He is to approve recommendations from the Food and Drug Administration that
White House officials said closely parallel the proposals the president
sent to the FDA for review last August.

Under those proposals, cigarette companies would be barred from placing
billboard advertising near schools and playgrounds.

He also proposed to require age-verified and face-to-face sales and
eliminate mail-order sales, vending machines, free samples, self-service
displays and sales of fewer than 20 cigarettes.

He also urged that sales or giveaways of caps or gym bags with tobacco
company logos be prohibited, as well as brand-name sponsorship of sporting
or entertainment events.

White House officials said the new regulations will have some modifications
to Clinton's proposals to reflect some of the comments the FDA heard during
a comment period.

Nonetheless, this major set of restraints on the sale and advertising of
tobacco products to minors will mark the first time that the federal
government will have asserted jurisdiction over tobacco products.

It is also the biggest government challenge to the tobacco industry since
the 1964 Surgeon General's report that linked smoking to lung cancer.

Tobacco companies, already facing assault on many fronts, have made clear
they will fight the regulations in court by claiming the FDA does not have
the authority to regulate nicotine.

Republican presidential candidate Bob Dole's spokesman Nelson Warfield
called the announcement an ``election-year gimmick'' that could delay a
teen-smoking crackdown since lawsuits are already pending against Clinton's

The Clinton campaign spokesman, Joe Lockhart, fired back that Dole's
criticism showed that he ``seems more interested in protecting the tobacco
lobby than protecting childen.''

Dole had come under heavy criticism in June when he said tobacco was not
necessarily addictive and that he did not believe the FDA has the authority
to regulate nicotine.

The union that represents most tobacco workers said the restrictions could
cost thousands of jobs and eventually prompt tobacco companies to move
operations out of America.

The Freedom to Advertise Coalition, a group of advertising and publishing
associations, said the regulations were overly broad and unconstitutional
and poorly targeted.

The White House Thursday denied Republican charges that the announcement
was timed to steer attention away from a government report that drug abuse
among teen-agers has skyrocketed during his term.

Republicans also charged that Clinton was timing the announcement to gain
maximum publicity ahead of next week's Democratic National Convention.

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From: Steve Lehman <??????????????????>
Subject: Just a newbie(to a.s.p. and the internet, not to pipes)

Dear Steve:
I am not sure if this is the address to give my intoduction to the pipe 
digest.  Nonetheless:
The digest is the best thing to happen to pipes since the invention of 
matches.  I have been smoking a pipe on and off (never really OFF,just 
allowing the time between bowls to get a bit long) since about 1976 and 
watching tobacconists disappear like buggy-whip makers.  I hope this 
trend is turning around. 
My older brother has always smoked a pipe and I remember the great smell 
his pipe smoking always left in a room. (Even though it was Middleton's 
Sugar Barrel).  When I joined the Navy, and everyone was smoking 
cigarettes, I defended myself by taking up the pipe.  OK - it was a 
Medico Brylon (haven't seen one of those in about 20 years) and i smoked 
sir walter raleigh special mixture.  I transferred to the Reserves and 
went to college, and was able to learn real pipe smoking at a shop that 
has long since closed, CB Foster's, in State College, Pa. I picked up 
great english seconds (Made in London England, or London Made, England on 
the stem) and tried all the custom blends, eventually settling down to 
mild aromatics and virginia blends.  I still have a beautiful Bari Opal 
and a Peterson's Donegal Rocky bent from those days, and all the seconds 
I bought. They all pretty much still smoke great.  My tobacco tastes have 
only slightly changed; the only aromatics I is Amphora in the Green 
Can/pouch.  I mainly prefer flaked virginias from McClellands or 
Dunhill's Light Virginia Flake. This is good because I am fortunate in 
being able to smoke all day at work, and I need tobaccos that I enjoy but 
don't bother other building tenants (we can't smoke cigars because people 
in other offices notice the aroma via the building's ventilation system, 
but no one has complained about pipe aroma, if they even notice it).  
My absolute favorite pipe is my Peterson Mark Twain.  
On the subject of the current anti-smoking climate, I have noticed 
occasional references in the PD to cigarettes.  While I do not smoke 
cigarettes, I would remind all pipe smokers that to the radical 
anti-smoking community, we are all just the same, and we should not look 
down our  noses at cigarette smokers just because they have not the 
supreme good taste and judgement to smoke a pipe.  Now, I have for 20 
years suffered under the unfairness of restaurants allowing cigarettes in 
the smoking section but not pipes or cigars.  Now cigarette smokers are 
suffering, in much of the country, what we suffered for years.  And at 
least I could usually go to a bar and smoke my pipe in the convivial 
company of others... Now even that is under attack in California and othe 
areas.  There are estimates that there are about 45 or so million 
cigarette smokers in the U.S.  If they get rolled over, pipe smokers 
don't have much of a chance, because what the radical antis want, and 
they are who are driving the issue, is nothing short of total prohibition 
of TOBACCO, not just cigarettes.  So, vote, be active, let your 
politicians know how you feel, and smoke in peace.  (Sorry if that came 
of as a tirade, but the issue is one I care about alot.) 

                                                 Steve Lehman

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From: ?????????????????????????????
Subject: Toscano cigars

Hello Steve and all the Digest Readers!
While leaving for summer Holydays I would give one more little
contribute in the Knowledge of Tobacco World;reading the
literature both pipe tobacco related both cigars related,I noticed
a lack in informations that,in my opinion must be fixed as soon as
possible.I refer to our Toscano Cigar.Rick Hacker in his "The
Ultimate Cigar Book" never mentioned this Cigar concentrating his
focus on Cubans and similars.It seems that outside of Italy nobody
knows it!
This cigar has ancient roots since has been manifactured first in
the 18th century in Tuscany and is one of the product of Italian
craftmanship that survived and is still sold until our
times.Futhermore,the offering was expanded with new interesting
variations and by now there are maybe ten kind of Toscano
It is a long and slim cigar that has been cured after the rolling
phase with a salmaster solution that gives it his particular
flavour.Usually we use to cut it in two pieces and smoke them
separately doubling ,thus,the pleasure of smoking them.
Until a few years ago,it had the futher quality to be cheap but
since it has become a fashion cigar between Top
Managers,Politicians etc ,it lost this cheapness following the
rules imposed by our State Monopoly.
Nevertheless connoisseurs still buy them remembering with a lot of
"sadness" the times when Toscanos were a real popular cigar.
They are manufactered also in Italian Switzerland (and they are
maybe better then Italians) and in USA too,since some Italian
emigrants in 1920s started a production in New York state.
This Cigar has a great influence in Pipe Smoking too,because
adding a little bit of this cigar to some English Mixtures you can
obtain a strong but delicious mixture for the relax of evening and
night puffes.I use,for instance,mix some Toscanos to a 200grms tin
of White Balkan Sobranie.
>From what I read on PD,in the USA is running a strong activity
from "the non smokers lobby";in Italy things are going better but
the Toscano Cigar is a preferential target because of its strong
and penetrating smell.
When I will come back from Holidays I will send the complete range
of the Cigars available in case of someone,visiting my
Country,would try this marvelous Cigar.

Regards to everyone by Felice Mocci

[ Thanks, Felice!  By the way, one of the scans I've done from the
Ephemeris was an article on this subject. -S. ]

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From: "John P. Giunta" <????????????????????>
Subject:       Re: Pipes Digest #221 -- August 6, 1996

Hello Steve and fellow pipe smokers,

I wish to pass on a favorable comment about the work of Mark Tinsky, 
Pipe Maker and Repairman.  (I would like to use the term 
'Repairperson' in the light of more modern, non-sexist language, but 
I have heard of only one female who works on pipes, so my apologies 
go out to any females on the list who may be or may be aspiring to be 
crafters of pipes.)  This comment is based upon my viewing of some of 
his pipes about a year ago in Fairfax, Virginia at a Pipe Fair at the 
store of John B. Hayes, Tobacconist.  Also, Mark did some repair work 
for me.

I have one of Mark's pipes, of the "American" line.  It is a bent 
bulldog with a sandblasted finish.  It's a handsome, large-bowled 
pipe.  One day while admiring my collection of some 15 pipes, a 
dropped Mark's pipe on the tile floor of my studio.  The stem broke.  
I sent it to Mark for repair.  It came back in better shape, with a 
better fit than before.  I was really astonished at how good a job he 
did for a comparatively modest fee.

Mark has an information sheet with a breakdown of prices for the most 
specific kinds of tasks he performs.  I strongly recommend that any 
readers consult with Mark for any pipe repair or manufacture.

Mark Tinsky's email address is:  ???????????  All the information you 
need can be obtained through him at that address.

Wishing you all Contentment and Peace, 

John Giunta, B.M., M.A.          Teacher of Yoga and Music
VIENNA WOODS STUDIOS                    Performance Artist
117 Moore Avenue, SW                          Calligrapher
Vienna, Virginia 22180-5968       Observer of Human Nature

               email: ????????????????????
                   days: (703) 993-2236
                voice mail: (703) 281-5498

To talk in public, to think in solitude, to read and to hear, to 
inquire and to answer inquiries, that is the business of a scholar.

                                   -- Samuel Johnson

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Subscription

     Dear Steve,
     I recently received a copy of the digest from a co-worker and found 
     it to be very entertaining as well as educational.  Although I am 
     currently partial to cigars, I have found the topics presented in 
     your digest to be well worth the read and need of a subscrption.  
     Please add me to your list at:   ???????????????
     It is always a pleasure to read comments and stories from others 
     who share a fondness for one of those "good things" in life.  
     Thanks, and I'll look forward to the future issues.
     -Adam Callow

[ Indeed it is, Adam. Welcome! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????? (Bobby Holstein )
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #221 -- August 6, 1996

>>but there are getting to be quite a few Tinder Boxes in the Guide.  
>>Does the chain have a Web page listing all their retail stores?

Tinderbox has http://www.tinderbox.com but they haven't activated it 
yet.  Steve Glaze is the guy spearheading it but it seems that everyone
else in the TB marketing/management has either been opposed to or 
indifferent towards it.  Could be next month, could be next year...

The Fuji Cigar Page at http://www.netins.net/showcase/fujicig
The Fuji Home World at http://fujipub.com

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From: Michele Buzon <?????????????????????>

Dear pipe smoker,

Hi. I am an anthropology student at Loyola University Chicago.  I am doing
research on the casts of dentition from an 19th century archaeological
population.  In several of the casts, the teeth exhibit a particular wear
pattern that appears to look like what is commonly known as "pipe
smoker's wear", a distinct hole that is created by the pipe being clenched
by the teeth for long periods of time.  In order to determine if what I have
found is indeed wear cause by pipe smoking, I am attempting to do an
informal survey to learn more about the general habits and
characteristics of pipe smokers.  If you are interested in helping me with
my research, please e-mail the answers to the questions in the
attachment to this address: ???????????????  Also, if you have any
comments or suggestions, or if you know anyone else that would be
interested in helping me with my research, I would greatly appreciate the
assistance.  Thank you very much for your time and contribution.


Michele R. Buzon
Loyola University Chicago

------------------- SURVEY.TXT follows --------------------
1.  Are you male or female?
2.  What is your age?
3.  How long have you been smoking a pipe?
4.  How often do you smoke (hours per day, number of days per week)?
5.  Are you familiar with what is commonly known as "pipe smoker's wear"?
	Do you have this sort of wear pattern on your teeth?	
	If so, which teeth does it affect?
	Also, can you approximate the length of time this wear took to form?
6.  Do you always place your pipe in the same spot?
	If so, on which side of the mouth and which teeth?
7.  What kind of pipe do you usually smoke (what is the material?)
8.  Do you know any female pipe smokers?
	If so, how many?
	How often do they smoke a pipe?

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From: Chris Hayward <???????????????????>
Subject: Tardy Salutations

     (Sorry if this is the wrong address to send this to; I couldn't find
any other that seemed to suit.)
     I've been receiving and reading the Digest for many months now, but
have never found time to write in. For several years now, I have enjoyed
smoking, collecting and carving my pipes, and have built up a sizable
collection.  My favourites include (of course) my own handiwork, plus those
of a pipesmith right  here in Toronto, named Julius Vesz.  His shop is in
the basement of the Royal York Hotel, and comes highly recommended if anyone
finds themselves in this neck of the woods. What little I have learned about
carving and finishing briar has been pulled from his rather secretive grasp.  
     On the subject of the CD-ROM, I would certainly be interested as a
buyer, and perhaps as a contributor.  I am an illustrator/artist with some
experience in Photoshop, Illustrator and other art programs, and will
cheerfully donate services and or artwork to such a noble cause.
     Thats all for now, let me know if I can be of assisstance.
                                              Shannon Ross

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From: "Derek Jones" <??????????????>
Subject: Enjoying the PD

Dear Steve,

I have been recieving PD for several months now, and I wanted to let you know 
that I am really enjoying it.  I haven't been a regular contributor for a 
couple of reasons.  One, I am naturally kind of quiet.  Both a blessing and a 
curse!  Two, my job makes contributing, even finding time to log on, kind of 
difficult.  You see, I own a small trucking company, so small in fact, that I 
spend most of my time on the road, behind the wheel of a 1997 Freightliner 
Century Class truck.

My habit is to download the PD into a file, to be enjoyed at a later time.  
Most likely when I am stuck at some dock being loaded or unloaded for the 
better part of a day!  I believe I have one of the best jobs a pipe lover 
could have.  I have the pleasure of traveling this beautiful country, smoking 
a fine latakia in one of my 60 odd pipes.  My tastes lean towards Castello, 
Butera, Ser Jacopo and the like.  I have puffed from Blue Mountain (Cabbage, 
in trucker's parlance.  I have no idea why it is called such!) to the shores 
of Maine.                                

After 10 years of white-collar terror, where I was seldom allowed to smoke in 
the presence of another human, I have done this for the last 6 years.  I love 
it!  One of the few drawbacks is that I sometimes find it hard to log online.  
Fortunately, more and more truckstops are realizing that many professional 
drivers are equipped with laptops, and are providing phone access for us.  
More often than not, though, I must wait till my next trip home.  This can be 
anywhere from 2-3 weeks at a time.  Thus, one of the reasons for my quiet 

Anyway, I wanted to let you know I'm still out here.  Keep up the good work, 
and maybe I'll drop in on you sometime!  Got room for me and my ride?!

Till next time...
                                                       Derek D Jones
P.S.  Feel free to publish any or all of this as you see fit/interesting.  
Maybe we'll find out together if any more drivers are enjoying the PD!

[ Others, please let us know! -S. ]

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From: "Sam Campbell" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Greeting

I would just like to say hello and introduce myself to the group.  My name 
is Sam Campbell, I'm 21 years old, a college student, and a novice smoker.
Does anyone have any suggestions on a few good quality cigars I could try?

[ See the next, Sam! As opposed to Fuentes and LGCs, you might still
be able to get Calle Ochos.  I'd further recommend the Don Tomas
"Presidente." -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????????
Subject:      two great cigars

Hey Steve, what's up?
   Got the last issue of Pipes Digest and decided to add my two cents' worth
for the next issue. In the past week, I've been fortunate enough to have
smoked two ecellent cigars. The first one was a Calle Ocho which came in its
own cedar box. I took it to a wedding. The location was spectacular, with
beautiful views of the Ohio River; the ceremony and the reception were great,
and the Calle Ocho was perfect for the occasion. Very mild and pleasant. All
the groomsmen and the groom took a puff and they liked it too. Just a perfect
day all around. Beautiful wedding, perfect weather, great views, and a great
cigar. Life doesn't get much better!
   The next cigar I tried was the legendary Fuente Fuente Opus X. The
president of the Louisville Cigar Society brought back some boxes from a trip
to Florida, and he gave some to Oxmoor Smoke Shoppe to sell. I bought one of
the cigars, took one puff, and it was bliss. The Opus X is definitely every-
thing it's supposed to be. Very pleasant smoke and tasted wonderful. Without
a doubt, right near or at the top of my list. I wanted to bow to the president
of the society in reverence for bringing them back from Fla.
   Anyway, that's my story.
                                Smoke in peace,
                                Benson Stone, Louisville, KY

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From: nobody <?????????????????>
Subject: comment from pipes page

I would like any info on mold on cigars.  What does it look like?
I had a cigar with little swpecks on it.  Could that be mold?
If it is mold what do I do about it?  I have a cherry wood
humidor lined with cedar and a Credo in it.  The humidity
is about 73% all the time.  I just purchased a lot of Don Tomas
cigars and I'm worried about them.  Any advice on the
mold issue would be great.

The web page is cool and I was sure to bookmark it and the related
cigar stuff makes for hours of reading on-line.  Thanks for
getting ti together.

Thank you for your time,


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From: William Serad <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Penn

Dear Steve-
I just noticed that you were a student at Penn, as was I (C'76 Gr'83).  
As it happens, Craig Tarler of Cornell and Diehl was too (C'52).  When 
were you there?  There was a pipe club in Philly about 15 years ago, 
which also met occasionally at the Classical Guitar Store.  Holt's was a 
sponsor (partially, at least, I think) back then, but now they are 
"Holt's Cigars" and no longer a tobacconist in their advertising.  
They've moved to upscale digs on Walnut Street, have a massive and 
opulent cigar section, a substantial fine writing instrument business, 
and by the way some pipe stuff (mostly very high end pipes).  It's sad 
to me.
However, best regards, and keep up the good work.

[I was E'78.  Dang, I never knew about the pipe club. And I agree
about Holt's. Would encourage members to try the Black Cat on Sansom
St., only a block away from Holt's. -S. ]

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From: William Serad <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Kirsten

P.S. to previous e-mail...
You must but the largest sized straight Kirstens to get the full benefit 
of the design.  And they-re not kidding when they say to pack it as 
tightly as possible.  It makes a difference.  It smokes a bit 'sootier' 
to me, but it removes a huge amount of water (and a bit of the essential 
oils which shouldn't be removed).  For really full flavored tobacco, 
like Rattray's Black Mallory, it can't be beat.  It also helps discern 
some of the subtle differences in, for example, the McClelland Virginia 
blends, because the pipe carries none of the remains of previous smokes. 
 So much for my 2 cents.
Thanks again, and best regards.

[ Have tried packing my Kirsten very tightly; results were still not
very good. -S. ]

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From: David Cunningham <????????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #221 -- August 6, 1996

Reply to Why Pipes Are Better Than Cigars.....

A cigar can definitely be enjoyable, with subtle aroma dn taste and
beauty. I smoked both pipes and cigars. And I enjoy both. I have not
become a professional at it, but it is a great pleasure for me. Pipes do
give a lighter aftertaste than cigars and have a great aroma. True, when
you've tasted one or more cigars, you've got a pretty good taste for
cigars. Pipes are more diverse, with copious blends to try. But they are
both good. YOU can definitely smoke a lot more for less. Sometimes I feel
like a cigar and other times I feel like a pipe. And it's more pleasant to

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From: ????????????????? (James W. Murray)
Subject: Estate Pipes


I offer my condolences on the passing of your father. I recently lost my
dad as well. He battled cancer for 15 years. He fought hard and we'll miss
him very much. My prayers are with you. It's very difficult to lose someone
who you have known all your life.

Here is a list of some sources for estate pipes. These estate pipes sellers
make a real nice effort in providing photos or descriptions of the pipe
they have for sale via mail order customers. As long as you purchase a pipe
every six or so you'll stay on their mailing list.

I have only done business with Fine Olde Briar's. Rob is a very nice guy to
deal with. If you express an interest in a pipe, he'll hold it for you
until payment is received. He has a nice selection. BTW, Ron will be
attending the New York Pipe Show on August 31, 1996.

Fine Olde Briar's
Rob Denholtz
20 Clover Hill Dr.
Pougkeepsie, New York  12603


Steve Leaders
4936 Windsor hill
Windcrest, TX 78239
(210) 590-1802


Edward's Pipe and Cigar
1715 Promenade Center
Richardson, TX 75080


NML Pipes Direct
12159 Cuddington Ct
West Palm Beach, FL 33414


Pulvers' Prior Briar
PO Box 2734
San Francisco, CA 94126

I hope this list will be helpful for those pipe smokers who like Estate
Pipes. Don't over long these fine pipes. They may be pre-smoked, but they
still can offer a great deal of pleasure. And the prices can be GREAT!

Jim Murray
Schenectady, New York

[ Is the Edwards' you listed a branch of the shop on Coit Rd. in
Dallas? -S. ] 

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From: Richard Sevigny <???????????????????>
Subject: Hello!

Hello, Steve!

Due to a bug in my mailer program, I've only just now begun to be able to
read your digest.  I'm very happy to be aboard.  I can tell you THIS is one
club I never expected to find on the Net.
I was using a beta version of YAM on my Amiga and it was freezing whenever I
tried to read your mail (and fragmenting attached files,as well) but the
bugs seem to have been worked out and the program much improved in the
latest version.
Sorry for the technical digression - just wanted you to know why I haven't
been in touch.
I returned to pipe smoking after quitting cigarettes several years ago and
so far have no inclination to pick up the old nasties, again.
I inhale much less with a pipe and find the experience much more
contemplative, soothing and enjoyable.  I don't have difficulty going places
where smoking is verboten or sitting through a movie without getting up for
a smoke.
Looking forward to long association with other pipe-smokers!

[ Thank you, Richard! -S. ]

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Mark Lathem Piece

I loved Mark Lathem's piece on Cigar vs. Pipe Smokers in the last
Digest--so much so that I would like to ask Mark's permission to reprint it
in the OPC Newsletter as space permits. Unfortunately, the address seems to
be that of a web page (which I don't know anything about) rather than an
e-mail address.  Can I ask Mark to get in touch with me about granting
permission for this and future efforts and for getting me proper e-mail and
mailing addresses?  Perhaps we can put the old saw about "military
intelligence" to rest.  This was a fine and amusing piece of writing, and I
hope that Mark will continue to exercise his talents.  Mark, please contact

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Ohio Pipe Collectors Show Update

I'd like to give you and your readers one final update on the OPC swap/sell
pipe show in Columbus on Sept. 14.  Five weeks before the show, we have
rented 59 of the 61 available tables and are expecting a great show.  Lots
of big names will be there--Nikos Levin, Bob Hamlin, Craig Tarler--several
pipe makers, and just lots of other people with lots of pipes.  I talked to
Mel Feldman from Albany, NY the other day, and he informed me that he's
bringing 3,000 pipes.  I don't know what they will be, but it should be a
Our $1.00 raffle (not an auction!) will really be terrific.  I won't
attempt to list all the donated pipes, tobacco and other items, but the
responses to my requests for donations have just been terrific.  The high
point will remain the superb Dunhill donated by Barclay Pipe & Tobacco with
the fitted sterling silver case made by Chris Hill, wife of OPC member Pat
I repeat my invitation for all who can possibly make it to attend.
Admission is free, and the Friday night gathering in the bar will be a
great opportunity for making new and renewing old pipe smoking friendships.
Plus, the Chicago contingent will be present, which means lots of pipe
viewing, buying, trading and whatall in their rooms.  The show runs 9-5 in
the Holiday Inn at 328 W. Lane Ave., right across from Ohio State.  The Inn
is about two miles east on the Lane Ave. exit off the 315 highway,
accessible off 270.  Call 614-294-4848 if you need a room at the special
show rate.  Contact me if you need more information.  To repeat, we're
expecting a big crowd and a great

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: OPC Pipe Show to Cancel Smoking Contest

Steve, I just wanted to let everyone know that the OPC board has voted
unanimously to cancel the advertised smoking contest at our Sept. 14 show.
 Having rented all 61 available tables, we continue to receive enquiries. 
We decided that the contest was not that big a deal and that it was
important to free up three more tables for dealers.  We have now rented 62
tables out of a full house of 64.  I hope know one was planning to come to
the show just for the smoking contest, but, if so, accept our
apologies--and please come anyway.  It's going to be a hell of a show.

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

[ Sounds like it will be a great show, Bill! -S. ]

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes--CustomBilts

Oddly enough, despite all the pipes I've accumulated, I've never been a
pipe collector.  But now, through a series of circumstances (thanks a lot,
Rex, I think) I appear to be a major collector of CustomBilts (not
Custom-Bilts, which, if I understand correctly, are the later pipes).
Thus, if anyone out there has large or unusual CustomBilts that they are
interested in selling or trading, I'm interested in hearing from you.  I
would also be interested in hearing from anyone with information about the
CustomBilit pipe company and/or Tracy

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, Ohio Pipe Collectors

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From: Shaw <??????????????????????>
Subject: Holmes and Pipe Smoking

Hi Steve,

If you look on Pages 77 and 78 of the Winter-Spring 1994 Ephemeris you
will see an article I wrote about Sherlock Holmes and his pipes.  This
even predates the John Hall article as it was originally written in
the 70's.  I think you will enjoy it and feel free to use it or
publish it in any way you like.  ....AL

[ This issue is running longish, what with the FDA news and the
Sasieni piece and all, so we'll defer it until later.  I have it
scanned in, though. -S. ]

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From: J Greveling <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest

Dear Sir,

Thank you for starting this "Pipe World Web"
I will get a place on your mailing list, please.

I come from the Netherlands, I'm 38 years of age and I my first pipe I'd
smoked when I was 15.

Now I'm disabled (MS)and permanent in a wheelchair, but smoking the pipe
it's "rolling" better and maybe faster.

I'am the presiding bishop of the Old-Episcopalean Catholic Church in the

Till so far this short introduction, I'll hope to hear something of you.

God bless you.

                                  + hieronymus greveling.

PS Excuses for he bad english.

Hieronymus Greveling
Wassenaarstraat 16, 4811 LH Breda.
The Netherlands.

[God bless you also, and welcome! -S.]

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: online pipes button

Steve and all,

        here's a little PostScript i whipped up for a button signifying that
one is a member of the online pipes community.  maybe we can wear these to
the shows to help us meet each other.  print it out on a PostScript printer
and run down to the local 'Badge-a-minute' place and you're there.

% Some PostScript by Steve Beaty (?????????????????????????)
/Times-Roman findfont 80 scalefont setfont
140 648 90 0 360 arc stroke
80 620 moveto
(\304) show
15 0 rmoveto
(\\U) show

        what think y'all?

Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                 ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA        http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/

[ For some reason, my copy of Ghostview (version 1.5 from the Linux
Slackware distribution) doesn't do a very good job with this; the
slash is heavily aliased.  Perhaps it has trouble scaling the font. Do
others have better luck?  -S. ]

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: TPSE

Steve and all,

        i sent Tom Dunn a paper copy of the digests up through #220.  it
included a permuted index, subject index, and From: index.  he sent a very
nice letter back, thanking me for printing it out for him and for everyone
who has contributed to the digests.  the printout was about 1025 pages long!

        thought you might be interested.

Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                 ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA        http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/

[ Thanks for doing this service for the hobby, Steve!  Other members
might be interested to know that the Ephemeris images, scanned with
Tom's permission, are starting to become available through Steve's
estimable Web page.  See next. -S. ]

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Ephemeris scans


        the scans you sent me from The Pipe Smokers' Ephemeris are in:


        thanks much!

Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                 ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA        http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/

[ The images may occasionally be a bit rough, due to the fact that
there are hundreds of them and they're taking a long time to scan and
label. If anyone cleans one up, please let us know and we'll use the
clean version! -S. ]

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Havana's Fine Cigars, Denver

Steve and all,

        been meaning to give a quick review of:

Havana's Fine Cigars
2727 East 2nd Avenue
(2nd and Detroit)
Denver, CO, 80206
(303) 355-2003
(303) 331-9748 (FAX)

i dropped by there a month or so ago to check things out.  nice place.  had
about 200 different kinds of cigars available, and humidors and the like.
they also have a members-only smoking lounge.  Steve Bruckman (-: yet
another Steve :-) was quite friendly and showed me the lounge and chatted
for quite a while.  the shop is near the Cherry Creek Mall.  no internet
presence yet, but a nice place nonetheless :-)

Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                 ?????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA        http://www.lance.colostate.edu/~beaty/

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Need your help

Steve Masticola,

           Sir, I need some help in determining the year of  a pipe I
recently purchased. I found this Dunhill pipe in an antique store in Houston
and purchased it for the unbelievable price of $24.00 plus tax...of course.
It is a rather large pipe, aprox. a group 5. It is a prince briar. On one
side of the shank it says Dunhill and under that it says London. The opposite
side says FET f/t, under that it says,Made in England with an 8
underlined(for the year made). Under that is the pat no. 417574/34. Does any
of this help ? If anyone can help it would be appreciated. After all the
antique shops I've hit over the years this is the second time I struck gold.
The first find was a 1940 Dunhill Rollalite Lighter for $25.00 in Austin,
Texas...I'm always looking for that next pipe. Thanks John Munoz...

[ See the next for more on sleuthing Dunhills. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: P.D.


I have been a regular reader of the digest for a good number of issues -
enjoying each tremendously.  I would like to ask assistance from your
readers, if you could insert the following:


I have been looking to purchase a 1946 code dated Dunhill (any finish) for
years without success.  I do understand their rarity due to war damage etc.
but I do hope that someone out there may be able to assist.

Thanks very much

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From: Sam Friedland <???????????????>

Hello!  Hello,  Steve!

	I offer sincere condolence for the loss of your Dad.

	Chuck Basso's notes on meerschaum in PD#221 reminded me that my 2 
lovely Calabash pipes need replacement bowls from time to time.  
Although they cannot be transported as discretely as their briar 
cousins, I carry and smoke these pipes at liberty to complement my mood 
and attire.  From time to time I have been as shattered as their clay 
bowls when one pipe or the other was crushed or dropped during my 
workaday activities.  A trip to the tobacco shop, a six to eight week 
turn-around time, and a small fortune later, I have replaced the bowls.

	I do not begrudge the bowlsmithy his due, and yet money (or scarcity 
thereof) is a great motivator.   I have a steady hand and I have an eye 
for precision and grace.  I humbly believe that I could fashion a 
handsome, serviceable replacement bowl if only I had the clay.  From 
whence comes meerschaum?  How can I obtain some?


[ Turkey; perhaps Stemco/Pimo could sell you some meerschaum. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: PD 221                                                                                                                       
In PD 221 Michael Stanley wrote about Limited Editions Tobacco Jars:

My local tobacconist, FF Piber in Randers has a '82 edition for sale.
It is made of porcelain and with same wooden top + medallion as
you mention on the '89 edition. Its made by Bing & Grondal (similar
to the Royal Danish Porcelain factory) which maybe explains the
price- around 150USD without tobacco.

You could contact the factory (and Steve, maybe put it on the
resource list):

A & C Petersens Tobaksfabrik
Norgesvej 10
DK-8700 Horsens,

And John Graham wrote about bamboo shanks:

Stanwell produces pipes with bamboo shanks. Recently I saw
a Danish movie from the sixties and I noticed that one of the
characters smoked a beautiful Stanwell Bamboo. They sell for
around 120USD.

And Steve, maybe you would include 2 good Danish tobacconist on the
resource guide.

FF Piber,
Adelgade 1
DK-8900 Randers,

(my local tobacconist, around 1,000 pipes in stock + hundreds
of different tobaccoes + good cigars)

Hans Broges Gade 3
DK-8000 Aarhus,

(an expert on 'My Own Blend' tobaccoes, also makes tobaccoes
after your individual taste + more than 1,000 pipes in stock)


[ Thanks for the listings, Jesper!  Anne Larsen once told me that
Denmark is truly the land of pipes and tobacco; is this still true? -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: Pipe D.

Subject: Freedom fight

Having read PD for a couple of months I feel sorry for you
smokers in the US. Has it really come so far that you are
now more or less outlaws in a world that believes in eternal
life and on the same time hails consumption and thereby also
life threatening pollution.
And what is even worse to me (and probably all Europeans) is
the fact that we seem to be flowing in the same direction
only a few years later. We have an organisation of "Considerate
Smokers" but against the small group of fanatic anti-smokers
it is like fighting wind mills. However, keep up your freedom

Enough of cloudy thoughts.... Actually I just wanted to
hear if there are any readers in the Chech Republic who
can give me adresses of good tobacconists in Prague?
I have been there several times but have not found any
yet - can anyone help?

And Steve, is it an idea to publish results from national
long time smoking contests (is it called that?), I can
help with results from Denmark, both national and regional.
The contests are open so any PD reader can join if in
the neighbourhood - can I advertise them in PD?

Keep fighting (i.e. smoking)

PS: And get out of the closet, fellow-Europeans, so we
can make PD truely international!

[ I see no problem with publishing the results in the Digest, Jesper! -S. ]

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From: nobody <?????????????????>
Subject: comment from pipes page


[I've never met him personally, nor do I believe he receives the
Digest.  However, as far as I know, he's still around, still respected
as probably the world's leading expert in his field, and still
operating Antiquarian Tobacciana at 11505 Turnbridge Lane, Reston, VA
22094-1220; phone (703) 435-8113.  The listing's in the Guide from a
reference in PD #187.  If anyone else knows differently, please let us
know too! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????? (MR JAMES D RANSOM)
Subject: General Ramblings

   Hello all and hope your pipe dreams have been pleasant. It's been 
awhile since my last submission but after this past weekend I just 
had to let the group in on my latest find: Ye Olde Pipe Shop, 
Hamilton Hills Shopping Center, Jackson, TN. 38305. Floyd is the 
owner's name and this is definitely not a mall tobacco shop, the shop 
carries many fine tobaccos and pipes such as Nording, GBD, Comoy and 
Peterson to name a few. The conversation is friendly and he also 
carries a good line of cigars for all of you aficianados. For anyone 
who might be passing through TN on I-40 exit 80A it's well worth a 
look see.                                                             
      I spent this past weekend in peaceful pipe bliss by carrying 
the wife and children to a middle Tennesee Trout stream and fishing 
to my heart's content. The fly line wasn't always cooperative;as 
usual; but the fishing was good and several trout were caught. Of 
course pipe in mouth and a fine
leaf to smoke contributed greatly to my experience, especially 
at night sitting out under the stars smoking my new Nording freehand 
with a bowlful of #3 purchased at Ye Olde Pipe Shop. It's really 
amazing how peaceful a freshwater stream and a bowl of tobac can make 
a person feel. I took some good advice offered in digest #221 and 
smoked only my less
expensive pipes while in the stream ( to avoid that dreaded slip of 
the foot and then floundering around and losing one of my prize 
pipes) but nighttime offered me the opportunity to sit back with pipe 
in hand, counting stars, and reliving the day's
     Well enough rambling, just some enjoyable thoughts on pipes and 
fishing. I really enjoy the digest and look forward to them regularly.
 Steve, you have might utmost gratitude for a job well done.

Pleasant Smoking,


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From: "Sam Campbell" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Smoking in Athens

I will be traveling to Athens,Ga very soon and I was wondering are there any
good tobacco shops worth checking out.

[ There are three listings in Georgia in the Guide; don't know how
near any of them are to Athens. -S. ]

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[ Stephen Smith sent this to me, with permission to reprint it
here. -S. ]

Connecting the Dots:
A Concise History of the Sasieni Pipe
Stephen P. Smith

In his excellent book, "The Ultimate Pipe Book", Richard Carleton
Hacker writes American pipe collectors "seem to be more preoccupied
with 'smokable' brand names, of which the most collectible are
Dunhill, Barling, Sasieni, and Charatan." Theodore Justin Gage, the
former publisher of the much missed "The Compleat Smoker", called
Sasieni pipes a "fascinating collectible, ...representing all that is
good about classic English pipe making."  And for good reason: the
pipes made by the Sasieni company between the years 1919 and 1979 rank
among the very best the London pipe industry had to offer.  They
featured superb wood, flawless bowls, outstanding smoking qualities,
and a styling that was uniquely theirs.

Yet for all that, Sasieni's are among the most underrated pipes on the
collectible market, usually selling for far below their real worth.
In this, they offer the astute collector a genuine opportunity,
whether he or she is looking for a pipe with potential for
appreciation, or simply a great pipe at a reasonable price.

However, in order for the collector to capitalize on this, it is
vitally important to realize the Sasieni company changed hands on two
occasions, and each owner had different priorities and agendas.  Not
surprisingly, this was reflected in the quality of the pipes made
during these different times.  All bore the Sasieni name, and yet they
were very different pipes.

It is possible to divide the Sasieni history into three eras, similar
to Barling.  In fact, throughout this article, I will be referring to
"Pre-Transition, Transition, and Post-Transition" Sasieni's.  While
this may raise a few eyebrows, I believe it will become clear these
classifications are actually quite appropriate.

Therefore, it will also become clear a collector must be able to
distinguish between Sasieni's of different eras, as it is mainly the
family made pieces made between 1919 and 1979 which are truly
desirable to collectors.  The dual purposes of this article, then, are
to trace the history of the Sasieni pipe, and to enable collectors to
judge, with a reasonable degree of certainty, when the Sasieni in
question was made.

A Brief History of the Sasieni Company

There is a great deal of mystery surrounding the Sasieni pipe, owing
largely to the fact there is such a paucity of written information
about them, as is the case with many collectible pipes.  Even the name
of the founder is subject to debate.  One respected source says the
founder was named "Joel" Sasieni.  Another equally respected source
says with equal certainty the name was "Joseph" Sasieni.  (A third,
rather less reliable source once told me "Joel" and "Joseph" were
brothers, but I think we can safely dismiss that.)  An old Sasieni
catalog which I came maddeningly identifies the founder as
"J. Sasieni".

Whatever his first name was, Mr. Sasieni apprenticed at Charatan, and
moved on to Dunhill, where he eventually rose the position of factory
manager.  Many men would have been perfectly satisfied with such a
position, but not Mr. Sasieni.  He opened up his own factory in 1919,
believing he could improve on some of Dunhill's methods. Mr. Sasieni
was, if nothing else, an optimist.

Things did not go smoothly for the new firm.  The factory burned down
almost immediately.  Apparently undaunted, Mr. Sasieni simply rebuilt
the factory and carried on.

One change he incorporated in his pipes was the method of curing the
bowls.  While the briar blocks were air cured, similar to Barling,
Sasieni took this process a step further by "oven curing" his pipes.
Each pipe was cured in an oven over a period of six weeks, being
removed periodically by a factory worker, who would wipe away the
moisture as it emerged from the bowl with a rag, and check it for
cracks.  The end result was Sasieni pipes (the ones that survived)
were extremely dry smoking.

Sasieni was not oblivious to the success Dunhill had achieved with its
famous "White Spot" logo, and while he obviously couldn't copy the
logo exactly, he apparently saw no problem with reinterpreting it a
bit.  Therefore, each Sasieni pipe which came out of the factory had a
single blue dot in the stem.

Not surprisingly, the idea of their former employee competing with
them using a very similar trademark didn't exactly make Dunhill's day.
They threatened legal action in both the U. K. and the U. S..  Sasieni
was saved in England by that country's rather vague trademark laws,
and the Sasieni One Dot continued to be produced for the European
market for several decades.

Sasieni was not so fortunate in the U. S., where by the early 1920's
Sasieni had found an enthusiastic audience.  In an initial attempt to
comply with U. S. patent law, Sasieni moved the one blue dot to the
side of the pipe.  This unfortunately didn't do the trick, and only a
few side dot Sasieni's were ever made, which are now extremely rare
and collectible.

So, thanks in part to Dunhill's patent attorneys, one of the most
famous logos in the pipe industry was born.  To clearly differentiate
his pipes from Dunhill's, and also to distinguish the American market
pipes from all others (American market pipes originally only had a
three month guarantee, although by the mid 1930's this was extended to
one year) Sasieni put four blue dots on the stem of his pipes,
arranged in the shape of an elongated diamond.

The distinctive logo was an immediate hit in the U. S., where it,
along with the pipes' exceptional smoking qualities, helped the pipe
to sell in such quantities the factory had trouble keeping up with the
demand.  In fact, by the 1930's over 90% of Sasieni's production was
going to American shores.

Ah, but we Americans are a restless lot.  We just don't know when to
leave well enough alone.  So enamored had the U. S. market become of
the four blue dots, the importer wanted to make sure they could be
seen by everyone standing on each side of the smoker.  Therefore
Sasieni, reluctantly by some accounts, agreed to put four more dots on
the right side of the stem.

The Sasieni Eight Dot is now the most collectible of all Sasieni
pipes, due to both its scarcity and the fact that, unlike other
Sasieni's, the collector can be reasonably certain when the pipe was
made.  The Eight Dot made its debut in the late 1920's or very early
1930's, and was discontinued during W.W.II due to the inevitable
shortages of supplies.  Like the Four Dot, the Eight Dot had its logo
made by individually inserting rods of blue plastic into pre-drilled
holes in the stem, similar to the process used by Dunhill for their
one white spot.

This was an excruciatingly difficult procedure, even on the Four Dot,
for each dot had to be placed just right in order to create the
desired diamond shape, and on the Eight Dot, both sets had to be
symmetrical.  For all that, it is rare to find a an original Sasieni
bit in which the dots are even the slightest bit off.  This in itself
bears testimony to the fastidiousness with which Mr. Sasieni applied
his craft.  It also makes it fairly easy to spot a fake Sasieni stem.

Both the Eight Dot and the Four Dot were marketed in the U. S. during
the pre-war years, with the Eight Dot fetching more money, even though
both pipes used the same wood.

The post war years brought many changes at the Sasieni company, not
the least of which was the death of Mr. Sasieni himself, in 1946.  His
son Alfred (named, perhaps, for his father's arch-rival and former
boss?) proved a worthy successor to his fathers' business, and the
company continued to thrive under his leadership.  About this time the
company started stamping "Four Dot" on the shanks of the pipes, to
further capitalize on the now famous trademark's prestige.  There were
other changes in both the shank nomenclature and the dots themselves,
which will be reviewed in detail later on.

Through the post war years, Sasieni added shapes and lines.  While the
Four Dot remained their most famous product, the company also sold
lines of "seconds" under various names, such as Mayfair, Fantail, Olde
English, and Friar.  These were pipes made of good wood, but possessed
of some flaw, usually filled with putty.  Pipes that were almost, but
not quite, good enough to be a Four Dot were sold as Two Dots.  I have
two of these pipes in my collection.  Both pipes are quite striking,
exhibiting exquisite shapes and exceptional grain.  At first I
wondered why they were not Four Dots.  Eventually, after long
inspection, I discovered each pipe contained one very small filled
flaw.  In spite of this they remain two of my favorite pipes.
However, it is clear Sasieni was determined to put the Four Dot logo
on only the most perfect pipes.

Alfred Sasieni continued to run the company prosperously until 1979,
when he sold out to another firm.  Interestingly, he stayed on in the
capacity of a director.  At first it seems to have been a harmonious
partnership.  The new owners started their tenure with a limited
edition reissue Eight Dot.  This was a generous sized, natural stained
smooth pipe which occasionally also had a gold band.  Each pipe had a
blue string running through the bowl, shank, and stem, affixed with a
lead stamp and paper tab signed by Alfred Sasieni himself.  These
pipes are both strikingly handsome and maddeningly elusive, due to the
fact only 100 (or so, accounts differ) were ever made.

This spirit of cooperation between the old and new owners does not
appear to have lasted long.  Alfred Sasieni believed only vulcanite
should be used for pipe stems, eschewing the newer, trendier Lucite.
When the new owners, contrary to Alfred's wishes, issued a new Ten
Dot, replete with Lucite stem, it seems Alfred decided he had had
enough, and left the firm for good.

The new owners of what can accurately be called the "Transition" firm
continued to create high quality pipes using the old wood and methods
they inherited from the Alfred days.  However, these pipes are not as
collectible as the family pipes, and it is necessary for the collector
to be able to differentiate between the two.

The new owners do not appear to have retained their interest in pipe
making for very long, as they sold the company again in 1986.
Unfortunately, this new, "Post-Transition" firm decided to abandon the
high grade market place, and instead transformed the Sasieni into a
mid range "smoker", a metamorphosis from which it has yet to recover.
The news owners decided to capitalize on the Four Dot mystique by
eliminating all "second" lines, and issuing practically everything
under the Sasieni banner as a Four Dot.  This had the inevitable
effect of lowering the overall quality of the line.  For the first
time, it was possible to find a Four Dot with a putty fill, which
would have been unheard of when the family ran the company.  Even the
"Transition" firm maintained the integrity of the Four Dot line by
marketing flawed pipes under some other line.

Ironically, it is generally agreed the two most active markets in this
country today are the "high end" and "low end" markets, with the
middle $35-$100 range being the most sluggish--precisely where the new
Sasieni's are now being marketed.  Fortunately, fairly obvious changes
in the nomenclature--to say nothing of the presence of putty--make it
easy to spot a "Post-Transition" Sasieni.

Dating a Sasieni

No, this has nothing to do with asking the pipe to go out to the
movies with you.  As I have mentioned before, it is important to be
able to date a Sasieni which you are contemplating purchasing.
Pre-Transition Sasieni's, as I will now call them, are obviously the
most collectible and desirable, with the Transition pipes being
marginally collectible (although the commemorative Eight Dot, when you
can find one, is extremely collectible), and the Post-Transition
Sasieni's having little or no collector value at all.

Unlike Dunhill's, Sasieni's (and in fact most pipes) do not have an
explicit system for dating the pipe to the year.  However, by
understanding an admittedly somewhat arcane combination of
nomenclature, patent numbers, and dot arrangements, it is possible to
narrow your Sasieni's date of manufacture to within a certain era, and
sometime even down to a certain decade.

Ironically, the pre-W.W.II pipes are easier to date than the post war
pipes, because Joseph (or Joel) Sasieni was always fiddling with the
details which help to date the pipe.  Son Alfred seems to have made
some initial changes in the nomenclature after taking over the company
in 1946, and been content to leave well enough alone.  Sasieni
nomenclature changed very little between 1950 and 1979, although the
company continued to develop new shapes and finishes.

To begin with, there are three main elements to dating the Sasieni
pipe, the patent number, the style of the name "Sasieni" as it appears
on the shank, and the Dots themselves.  Naturally, there are
exceptions to these rules (this hobby would be boring without them),
but for the most part these guidelines apply better than 95% of the
time.  All Sasieni One, Four, and Eight Dot pipes made before W.W.II
and destined for the U. S. market carried a patent number on the shank
which usually started with the numbers "15", with 150221/20 and
1513428 being representative of the group.  Also, the name "Sasieni"
was stamped on the shank in a very florid manner, with the tail of the
last "i" sweeping underneath the name forming a shape which has been
compared to a fish by more than one collector.  This script was
discontinued by Alfred almost immediately after he took over the
company, so this alone tells you your pipe is pre W.W.II.  Underneath
in block lettering are the words "London Made", with the patent number
making the third line.

The dots will help you narrow this down further.  As we mentioned, the
short lived U. S. market One Dot was introduced around 1920, and was
replaced by the early to mid 1920's by the Four Dot.  The 1920's Four
Dot is distinguishable by the florid Sasieni script, a patent number,
and four blue dots, which are quite small compared to the pipes of
post war years.  Furthermore, by 1935 Sasieni began stamping pipes,
based on the shape, with their own names, which were usually, but not
always, English towns.  For example, apples were stamped "Hurlingham",
bulldogs were "Grosvenor" or "Danzey", and panels were "Lincoln".  One
rare and interesting variation of this was the large bent, dubbed
"Viscount Lascelles".  Even in this soft Sasieni market, these pipes
regularly sell for $150 in their rare appearances in mailers.

As mentioned above, the Eight Dot appeared in the late 1920's or early
1930's. These too have the florid script and the patent number, and
the presence or absence of a town name will help you date this pipe
fairly precisely.  Although the Eight Dot remained in the catalogue
through the war, it was for all intents and purposes discontinued
during W.W.II.

Once Alfred took over the company in 1946, these elements changed in
fairly rapid succession.  The first thing to be changed was the
nomenclature itself.  In place of the elaborate "Sasieni" stamp of pre
war pipes, a simpler, though still script style, "Sasieni" was used.
This can be seen on patent pipes which have the small, old style dots.

Soon after, Sasieni enlarged the dots themselves, and they formed an
equilateral rather than an elongated diamond.  My pet theory on this
is the dots were enlarged to make up for the fact there were no longer
eight of them, but I can't prove it.  Finally the patent number was
discontinued, and the words "Four Dot" were added.  The shank thus

Four Dot
London Made.

Somewhat later still, this was modified to reflect the finish,
e.g. Four Dot Walnut, or Four Dot Natural.  All these changes seem to
have been made in the years between 1946 and 1950.  Therefore a pipe
with new style dots and old style stamping almost certainly has a
replacement stem.

This system changed little if at all in the ensuing thirty years.
When the company was sold in 1979, one of the first things the new
owners did was to eliminate the town names from the shanks.  The dots
were enlarged yet further, and the Sasieni name, though still done in
script, was larger, as was the rest of the shank nomenclature, which
in all other ways was similar to the Pre-Transition nomenclature.
While these pipes are not as collectible as the family made pipes,
they were made with care and are high quality. 

The nomenclature changed again in 1986, with the sale of the company
to the Post-Transition firm.  The three line nomenclature was changed
to two lines, with the first reading "Sasieni 4 Dot" and the second
identifying the finish, e.g. Natural, Walnut, or Ruff Root.  Note how
4 Dot is spelled, using an Arabic numeral 4, as opposed to spelling
out the word "four".  This is the easiest way to spot a
Post-Transition Sasieni, as the new company has used both script and
block lettering to spell the word "Sasieni" on the shank. 

As mentioned above, there are exceptions to these guidelines, which
can be frustrating.  Probably the most feared aberration in our neatly
constructed Sasieni universe is the European One Dot.  As may be
remembered, Sasieni had no problem keeping his original trademark in
Europe in spite of Dunhill's best efforts to the contrary.  This led
to the pipe being manufactured for European markets until the sixties.
If in doubt, check the rest of the nomenclature.  Old style stamping
(just think of the fish) means an old pipe.   

The most difficult to distinguish from 1920's era U. S. One Dots are
the European One Dots made in the 30's and 40's.  Here you just have
to know your patent numbers and hope for the best, bearing in mind
virtually any pre war Sasieni is collectible.  In any event, these
pipes are rarely found in the U. S..   

A few other pipes, such as the plum finished pipes, kept their patent
number after the war.  Again, knowing your dots and script styles will
help keep you from mis-dating these pipes. 

Why Collect Sasieni's?

There are many reasons to collect these pipes, ranging from the purely
monetary to the aesthetic and esoteric.  While I personally do not
collect pipes to make money, nor do I advise same, the fact remains a
high grade, flawless, first quality pipe that currently sells for less
than $100, and often less than $50, surely must have some potential
for appreciation.  No less an authority than the late Barry Levin
himself once told me he felt Sasieni's were severely under valued, but
as time went by they would eventually take their rightful place next
to Dunhill and Barling, as people came to appreciate the wonderful
qualities of this pipe. 

There are many theories regarding the soft market for these pipes, the
most logical and most accepted of which points to the low price of the
currently made pipes.  Sellers are often reluctant to price a
pre-smoked pipe higher than an unsmoked one of the same brand, and
buyers reluctant to pay more..  It is important to remember, though,
there is a vast difference in quality between the Pre-Transition and
Post-Transition Sasieni's.  The older pipes should sell for more than
the new ones, simply because their quality is so much higher. 

Monetary considerations aside, there are many other reasons to collect
Sasieni's.  First, unlike many collectible pipes, the Sasieni is
actually quite datable, contrary to popular belief.  The ability to
date a Sasieni at least within a certain era, and sometimes within a
decade, not only deepens our appreciation of these pipes, it also
ensures we spend our money wisely. 

Furthermore, there is the company itself.  Sasieni was a family owned
company, run by people who took deep pride in their work.  The firm
has an interesting history, with links to two of England's other great
firms, Dunhill and Charatan, whose influence can occasionally be seen
in Sasieni pipes. 

Most importantly, there is the pipe itself.  Sometimes it almost seems
as though collectors forget the ultimate purpose of a pipe is to
deliver a great smoke.  Pre-Transition Sasieni's fulfilled this
purpose admirably, and continue to do so.  The old Sasieni's were
renowned for being extremely dry smoking, and even today a well cared
for Sasieni will deliver a cool, dry smoke, even though the pipe may
be over seventy years old.  While Pre-Transition Sasieni's are usually
available only on a pre-smoked basis, occasionally one can still be
found unsmoked by the fortunate collector. 

On top of all this, the pipe is truly pleasing to the eye.  The wood
is full grained, usually featuring striking cross cuts and astonishing
birds-eye, as well as the occasional straight grain.  The Four and
Eight Dot, as well as the early One Dot pipes always had clean bowls.
Any pipe with even a tiny fill was relegated to the "second" line. 

One virtue of Sasieni's which I rarely if ever see commented on
deserves mention here.  The Sasieni shape line, particularly prior to
the war, has an undeserved reputation for being limited and overly
conservative.  Yet by 1935 their catalogue listed no less than 50
different shapes!  As one acquires more of these pipes one will
continually be surprised at the many unusual shapes, which show,
perhaps, the influence of Charatan. Anyone who has ever seen the shape
knows as the Exeter, which can only be described as a sort of freehand
bull moose, will know what I mean. 

Besides the Exeter, I have in my own collection a 1920's One Dot
shaped like a clay pipe, complete with tilted bowl and a heel
underneath, and a 1970's era Two Dot, which can only be described as a
tilt bowl, diamond shank pear (Sasieni only used the descriptive town
names on the Four and Eight Dot series).  The Sasieni pipe is quite
literally full of surprises.  I have no doubt as I continue adding to
my own collection, I will discover yet more unusual shapes.

Sasieni was also a pioneer in the concept of "Ladies' Pipes".  Three
styles, the "Argyle", the "Montrose", and the "Dorset" were designed
specifically for ladies.  Unlike many so-called ladies' pipes, these
pipes did not mar the finish with colored lacquer, or have a bowl so
small the lady in question could only get a five minute smoke.
Instead, they had reasonably sized bowls, and long slender stems and
shanks.  The "Argyle" and "Montrose" were carved and smooth versions
of a Billiard, respectively, and the "Dorset" was a carved oval shaped
bowl.  Needless to say, these pipes could be enjoyed by anyone who
simply wanted a smaller, slimmer pipe, as the finishes were exactly
the same as the rest of the Sasieni line.

Finally, there are the dots.  This may sound a bit silly to the
non-Sasieni collector, but Sasieni collectors know exactly what I
mean.  Sasieni collectors have a fascination with the striking logo,
which is both distinctive yet tasteful.  Some would say it has an
almost mystical quality about it.  Over the years, the dots have
changed both in size and color (although many of the seeming color
"variations" are simply a result of aging.)  Over the years the dots
ranged in color from light blue to a vivid sky blue.  Many collectors
are as enthralled with the dot variations as with the pipe itself!

The delights of this pipe are almost endless.  They deliver a great
smoke, visual enjoyment, and maybe even the possibility of monetary
appreciation.  They deserve to take their place next to the other
great collectible pipes of England's recent past, and perhaps, with
more understanding on the part of collectors, they will.

Some Acknowledgments

It is impossible to write an article such as this without a lot of
help from other people, and indeed, I received a great deal of help
from the pipe collecting community, from both the famous and the
obscure.  It never ceases to amaze me that I could call someone from
out of the blue, and, upon identifying myself as a fellow pipe
collector, have that person gladly, often enthusiastically, drop
whatever he was doing and talk to me about pipes for an hour or more.

An article like this is never truly finished.  Just when I think I've
got it all figured out, I'll talk to another collector, or read
another magazine article, or come across some bit of long hidden
information, and be forced to reconsider my ideas.  Should anyone have
anything to add to this article, I would enthusiastically welcome your
call.  My office number is (617) 878-1300.

Thanks first and foremost go to Theodore Justin Gage, former publisher
of "The Compleat Smoker", and Richard Carleton Hacker, author of "The
Ultimate Pipe Book".  Both men graciously allowed me to quote from
their published works, and gave generously of their time on three
separate occasions each, even though neither of them was expecting a
call from yours truly.  Richard Carleton Hacker literally allowed his
dinner to get cold one evening while he answered my many questions.

Thanks are due to Jim Cooke, the Vermont alchemist without whom there
would be far fewer estate pieces in our collections.  Jim answered
many questions concerning the inner workings of the Sasieni pipe,
describing in almost torturous detail the steps involved in creating
the Eight Dot stem.

Many estate pipe dealers also gave generously of their time.  Thanks
go to Nikos Levin, Steve Leaders, and Jack Ehrmantraut, for discussing
at length with me the current state of the Sasieni market.

Of course, there is the pipe collecting community itself, that legion
of relentless individuals who scour the dark places in search of
collectible briar.  Thanks to Red Coombes, who played a crucial role
in helping me verify the very existence of the seemingly apocryphal
Ten Dot Sasieni.  Thanks also to Mike Reschke, the well known Parker
collector who's also pretty smart when it comes to Sasieni's.  Mike
introduced me to Jim Copic, and what amazing conversations those were!
I felt like I had hit the mother load!  Jim enthusiastically collects
not only pipes but hard to find ephemera, and was an invaluable source
of information about all kinds of obscure facts, including details of
the Sasieni guarantee.

And finally, thanks to the members of the Massachusetts based Sherlock
Holmes Pipe Club, particularly our fearless leader, Col. Don Powers,
who encouraged me to write this article when I myself had grave doubts
about the project ("Aw shucks, Don!  I don't know nothin' about
writin' in no fancy magazine!"), and who if fact got me started on the
road to collecting Sasieni's in the first place.

Copyright a 1996 by Stephen P. Smith
				        All rights reserved

 Richard Carleton Hacker, The Ultimate Pipe Book, 2nd ed. (1984;
reprint, Beverly Hills, CA: Autumngold Publishing, 1989), 234.  Quoted
with the author's permission.

 Theodore Justin Gage, "The Sasieni Pipe: A Discriminating Collector's
Delight," Levin Pipes International's The Complete Smoker Monograph
#2, October, 1993.  Quoted with the author's permission.

 The following represents mainly a synthesis of the information found
in Richard Hacker's book and Tad Gage's monograph, with a smattering
of other information gleaned from other collectors.

I had heard of this pipe prior to writing this article, but had long
thought it to be nothing more than a myth.  However, the existence of
the Ten Dot was verified by both Richard Hacker, and Massachusett
based collector Red Coombes, who even sent me a Levin mailer with a
picture of the pipe!  For this part I have relied on a combination of
mainly personal observation, the input of other collectors, and some
Gage and Hacker material.

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From: Inag George Mazaferro <????????????????????????>

Here in Sao Paulo smooker is penalty. I love Marboro and I hate the 

[ Could you tell us more about what is being penalized? -S. ]

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From: Jeff Breckon <??????????????????>
Subject: Sign Me Up!

I am new to the ranks of pipe smoking, I quit the disgusting cigarette 
habit and am now wondering why I smoked them in the first place.  
Drawing on the pipe calms my nerves more that any pack of stinking cigs 
could.  However I do get funny looks, I am only 26, guess they expect to 
see only distinguished older gentlemen smoking them.  By the way, any 
good tips on learning to smoke a pipe correctly.  This is something I do 
in private in fear of embarrasing myself in front of my pipe smoking 
friends.  Thanks ahead.				

			Hopefully a welcome new pipe smoker (a.k.a.) 

[ How-To sent, Jeff; please let me know if you haven't received it
yet. And of course you're welcome here! -S. ]

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From: Dave Branch <???????????????????>
Subject: Tin/Can Tobacco


   Has anyone had this thought and does it hold any water. I have been 
searching for my perfect tobacco and have been trying many of the tin/can 
tobaccos because I figure that these would be more easily obtained and 
would be more consistent than the bulk tobacco. When I visit different 
shops they all have their own names for the blends that they are buying 
in bulk from a wholesaler, and I don't think I get the same blend from 
one to the next. Buying in bulk makes for a better price but are their 
any other reason to stay away from these than price. Like other 
ingredients that I should avoid? Some of the more costly tobaccos I have 
been trying are Dunhills, Mac Baren, McClelland, Three Nuns etc...  How 
are these different than the cheaper brands like Captain Black, Prince 
Albert, Sir Walter Raleigh, Amphora etc...? Do the drug store brands have 
harmful additives? I thought I read in a back issue of PD that some have 

Thanks for all the hard work!!!!


     Dave Branch

    E-mail Address
< ??????????????????? >

[Most of the store brands do contain glycol and "casings"
(flavorants).  So do quite a few of the premium blends.  The glycol is
used as a moisturizing agent.

Off the top of my head, I think that the McClelland's "Personal
Reserve" series does not. And there are others.  It's midnight and
thinking is becoming difficult... :-) But see the next letter. -S.]

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From: ?????????????????????????????

     Dear Steve,
     Thanks ever so much for the Pipes Digest via e:mail.  It is a treat 
     for me to be able to take a moment during my busy day at the office 
     and find the PD sitting in my mailbox.  Even though I can't smoke 
     while reading it in the office, I still take a little time to read, 
     peruse and enjoy.  Then of course I print it, take it home, and read 
     the rest of it while smoking in my own easy chair.
     I consider myself a "purist".  I only drink regular, black coffee.  I 
     rely only on my old outdoor antenna for TV reception.  I cut my lawn 
     with a human-powered, hand-reel mower.  I used to smoke cigarettes, 
     but found them disgusting, unhealthy and distasteful (well, I smoked 
     domestic brands - and this was in college).  But in time I learned to 
     aprreciate tobacco for what it is.  Consequently I soon gave up the 
     nails and picked up a pipe.  I tried a lot of different kinds before 
     settling on the one domestic brand that I've stuck with through thick 
     and thin:  Borkum Riff.  It's inexpensive, easy to get, and it tastes 
     and smells great.  I've also recently discovered two special tobaccos 
     I thought others might enjoy trying.  One is manufactured and packed 
     in Liverpool, England.  It's calle "GOLD BLOCK".  My sister brought me 
     a tin a few years back when she visited England with a friend.  It is 
     full-bodied, aromatic, but not too dark or strong.  Very delicious, 
     smooth and delightful.  The other one is called "TWIST".  This is 
     "spun" tobacco that comes in a very tightly packed cord.  What you do 
     is shave off a little from the end and rub it in the palm of your 
     hand.  It flakes out to become a nice little wad of fluffy, dark 
     tobacco that burns very cool and tastes like a fine cigar.  I know 
     that both of these tobaccos can be ordered from JR.
     Smoke in peace, my friend.
     Rob Earle

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From: Adamm Ferrier <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #221 -- August 6, 1996

[ Paul Parker's letter re Benjamin's Fine Tobacco's liquidation sale
deleted. -S. ] 

Dear All,

Many thanks to Paul Parker for this information.  I have phoned the store in
question and am rocketting in there tomorrow morning (and will report on
what I find).

Incidentally, the store's owner is called "Ben", and his email is
He was amazed to find that the news of this message has gone around the
world via this newsgroup.  All I can say is keep up the GREAT work!

Kind regards,

            Adamm Ferrier  - Australia Music Edition, 
	     Computer  Music Typesetter
                    PO BOX 1099, WINDSOR 3181
             AUSTRALIA.  Phone/fax: (61-3) 9525 2660                     

[ Adamm's report is in the next letter. Thanks! -S. ]

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From: Adamm Ferrier <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Benjamins

As promised, am reporting back.

I went in and searched out a few gems: a couple of GBD pipes were
snapped up immediately.  It seems that these pipes given to Benjamins
are very old stock: there were two HUGE cardboard crates full of boxes
of pipes.  Most, unfortunately, are what I suppose you'd call in
Yankese "drug-store" pipes of the <<highly>> desirable type with "real
briar" reassuringly stamped on the sides.  The second time I went in
they had not completely unpacked the second crate, as Benjamin had
departed overseas to a convention (lucky sod!).  I must say I was very
impressed with the staff: they were very helpful and before leaving
Benjamin himself let me rummage around in the first carton with what I
consider to be great latitude.  Perhaps he is not used to someone
relatively young purchasing pipes.  I also managed to score from his
regular stock an ebony Peterson 120.

Nevertheless, I am VERY pleased with the GBD's, especially when he let
me have them for only $AUD 9.95 each!  (That's about $US7.00!!!!)  I
am presently breaking in one of the two Pedigree pipes (#90891).  I
have never had a Peterson (my usual brand) that has smoked so well.
The smoke is cool and always stays well lit - one match and you're
away.  The other one I grabbed is a Pedigree #91311 SF.  The grain
patterns are beautiful.  The shanks have "HAND CUT" marked near the

Now, for a few questions.... ( I hope you'll oblige by donning your
pipe expert fez when and if you reply!) Should I keep the extras
untouched for a time?  Are these pipes hard to get elsewhere?  Is
there anyone out there desperate for one of these? (perhaps it's a bit
selfish to hang onto both)

By the way, has anyone ever heard of tobaccos called "Skallorna" or
"Cutty Sark"?  I collect old advertisements (any contributions
welcome!) and have never seen these tobaccos for sale: perhaps they
were for the UK and USA domestic markets.

Any comments welcome, as is also any brochures etc from stockists.  If
anyone is visiting Australia, please do not hesitate to give me a call
(although I don't think the surplus supplies at Benjamins would
justify it.... after all, I have got in there first!!!!!)

Once again, THANKS for the great work you do.


            Adamm Ferrier  - Australia Music Edition, 
	     Computer  Music Typesetter
                    PO BOX 1099, WINDSOR 3181
             AUSTRALIA.  Phone/fax: (61-3) 9525 2660                     

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From: Gord Ferguson <???????????????????>
Subject: What Ever Happened to..Dept.

What ever became of the fellow who went across the country in search of pipe
shops, justice and the American Way ???? I enjoyed reading his posts. Did he
ever reach his destination ? I'm curious.


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From: Mark Lathem <??????????????????????>
Subject: My Tinsky Pipe...

In the last issue of PD, I wrote that I had asked Mark Tinsky
(??????????????) to make a special pipe for me.  The pipe arrived this
week, and I am extremely pleased.

The pipe is a straight, plateaux-topped billiard, 6" in length with a 
2 1/4" high bowl.  The chamber is about Dunhill group 5 size, and the
pipe has a slightly ovalled stem and a saddle bit.

The pipe is quite striking visually.  In describing my wishes, I told
Mark I wanted a pipe with a high "wow" factor, and he delivered exactly
that.  The pipe is a straight grain and was given a light finish to
accentuate this grain pattern.  The stemwork is outstanding (I'm pretty 
picky about my stems--only Jim Cooke and Alfred Dunhill had been able to
completely please me previously <g>), and the stem/shank mating is
flawless.  I hope to find the time to photograph the pipe and put a scan
on my web page in the coming months.

The phrase "work of art" has been diluted somewhat by overuse, but this
pipe is exactly that.  I strongly recommend that anyone who has ever had 
the urge to design a pipe commission Mark to do the work for them.  I
can guarantee that they will be pleased with Mark's superior
craftsmanship and remarkably reasonable pricing.  I'm already working 
on another design for Mark--my very own "Christmas Pipe," #1 of 1 <g>.


Mark Lathem      

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From: ??????????????????????????
Subject: Re: Address change request for Pipes Digest


I thank you for the updato my address.  I really enjoy reading The Digest 
and would hate to miss getting it.

I attended my first pipe club meeting last Wednesday.  It was a great time.  
The group proves that pipe smokers are among the most friendly people 
around.  The club's name is the Sherlock Holmes Pipe Club of Massachusetts.  
If you like I can send information about it and its doings to the Digest or 
maybe someone already is doing this and my info would be redundant.

// Jeffrey Jackson
// ?????????????????????
// ????????????????????????

[ Not on a regular basis, Jeffrey; please let us know what's up! -S. ]

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From: Enrico Schiattarella <???????????????????????>
Subject: Italian tobaccoes

Hi Steve,
I was wandering if italian tobaccoes are known abroad. I've seen some cigars 
("Toscano" ) in airport dury free shops,but nothing else.
The pipe tobacco ("Trinciato") is quite different from the other classical
tobaccoes ( English, Danish, etc.). It is quite strong, rough, unaromatized,
mostly like a cigar than a pipe tobacco.
Some people like it, some other not. Personally I smoke "classical"
aromatized tobacco, but sometimes I find it wonderful to have a "rough" smoke.
The same for cigars, they are quite strong, very slow burning, etc.

[ Personal note deleted. -S. ]

I am very interested in hearing other people's opinion.

Let me know ...
                        bye, Enrico     <???????????????????????>

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From: ????????????????????? (Frank V. Priore)
Subject: Savinelli Balsa filter

( Steve: This is not being sent from the E-mail address my PD goes to
[frank ??????????????????] because Juno has better E-mail generating, 
editing software, but please continue to send my PD to the regular
address, as they automatically package long posts into an easily
downloadable file)

Dear Steve,

I was getting ready to compose this message, when I spotted Wayne Baker's
message in the current PD, and it relates directly to my question.  I
recently bought my first Savinelli, and it came with those little balsa
wood filters.  Fortunately, my pipe had one already in place, or I might
have chucked the lot of them, not knowing what to do with them.  I don't
know exactly how your pipe is configured, Wayne, but my stem separates
from the bowl in the normal way (not a screw in or anything like that). 
The piece of balsa slides right into the stem, and rests at a point where
about 1/3 of it is sticking out.  I then just put the stem back into the
bowl and the filter is in place.

I wasn't sure whether I was going to like this or not, but after a few
bowlfuls, I found that the balsa really did absorb a lot of the moisture,
and made for a much drier smoke. 

Now, my question:  I bought my Savinelli from a mail order house, and
though I've searched the accessories section of their catalog, I can't
find replacement filters for my pipe listed.  Does anyone know from whom
they can be purchased?

Frank Priore

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From: "Michael J. Schoonover" <???????????????????>
Subject: Transamerica life policy


thanks for replying to my post in asc.  I spoke
with a local transamerica agent this am.  He said
that if you have used any nicotine in the last 2
years you are a smoker to transamerica.  So according
to them, even 1 cigar in the last 2 years will make 
you a smoker in their eyes and they'll charge double
the premium.

you might also note for the faq that he mentioned another
ins. co., I believe the life ins. co. of Virginia that 
has a tobacco user but non-smoker rate that is more
tolerant of cigar smokers.

hope this helps others out there.  seems like the ins.
companies are tightening things up.

take care and thanks again.
please forward this info to bob for the faq update.

Michael Schoonover

[ Thanks, Michael!  I've noted in the Guide that Transamerica is
hostile to moderate smokers. -S. ]

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From: "Jeffrey M. Poulin" <?????????????????>
Subject: new (and accidental) C&D blend

Hello everyone! It's great to be back after a year's absence.I've really
missed PD.

In my latest order from C&D, Craig included a sample of a new blend that
came with a story. It turns out that one day he was making up a batch of
#414, Oriental Silk. Being rushed, he accidentally used Latakia in place of
bright flake. After several self-imprecations about wasting five pounds of
tobacco, Craig tried a bowlful and discovered he had stumbled into something
new, unusual and good.

He's right. I am not a big fan of oriental style blends.Too harsh and too
hot burning. This combination works for me. It retains the spiciness of an
oriental but it is subtle. The use of latakia gives it a milder taste
without turning it into a typical english blend. And it is smoooooth without
sacrificing flavor. I didn't like it as an early morning smoke but it went
very well after a light meal or with a cup of tea. (Aged virginias or
heavier english blends are still my standard after a big meal.) It adds a
nice variation to my repetoire of tobaccos. 

If you are interested, Craig has given this blend the number 416. It doesn't
have a name yet. Perhaps he should call it

As usual, I have no connection with C&D except that of a satisfied customer.

Happy Puffing!

Jeff (The Bear)

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject:  Re: Pipes Digest #221

thanks for all the hard work you do to make this a sucess i would like
to know if you have the mailing adress for medico pipe co would you
please send it to me

[ Sorry, I don't have Medico's address.  Does anyone else here have
it? -S. ]

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From: "Terry W. Jones" <??????????????>
Subject: Introduction & questions

Dear Steve,     

Thanks for the great job you do in publishing the Pipes Digest.

Congradulations on your up-coming one year anniversary.  I have just 
celebrated mine.  Even though I have only been married a little over a 
year, my wife and I have a new two month old son.  He was born two 
months early.  Things have really changed.  

I have read several of the past P.D.s.  They are great.  I have been 
lurking for several months because I don't have my own computer and have 
to use a friend's.  He has just recently subscribed to P.D. himself.  

I have a couple of questions that I would like other readers to anwser. 
 I have just purchased a calabash.  The meerschaum bowl fits in the 
gourd body very tightly and is difficult to get out.  Is this normal?  
Should I put something on the cork or what?  Does anyone have copies of 
Pipe Friendly Numbers 1 & 3 that they would be willing to sale?  Answers 
may be sent to ?????????????? .

Using the Internet is new to me and I hope I have done this correctly.

Earl Jacob Starbuck, Sr.

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #222 -- August 25, 1996
  2. Subject: clinton
  3. Subject: Just a newbie(to a.s.p. and the internet, not to pipes)
  4. Subject: Toscano cigars
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #221 -- August 6, 1996
  6. Subject: Subscription
  7. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #221 -- August 6, 1996
  8. Subject:
  9. Subject: Tardy Salutations
  10. Subject: Enjoying the PD
  11. Subject: Greeting
  12. Subject: two great cigars
  13. Subject: comment from pipes page
  14. Subject: Penn
  15. Subject: Kirsten
  16. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #221 -- August 6, 1996
  17. Subject: Estate Pipes
  18. Subject: Hello!
  19. Subject: Mark Lathem Piece
  20. Subject: Ohio Pipe Collectors Show Update
  21. Subject: OPC Pipe Show to Cancel Smoking Contest
  22. Subject: Pipes--CustomBilts
  23. Subject: Holmes and Pipe Smoking
  24. Subject: Pipes Digest
  25. Subject: online pipes button
  26. Subject: TPSE
  27. Subject: Ephemeris scans
  28. Subject: Havana's Fine Cigars, Denver
  29. Subject: Need your help
  30. Subject: P.D.
  31. Subject: PD 221
  32. Subject: Pipe D.
  33. Subject: Freedom fight
  34. Subject: comment from pipes page
  35. Subject: General Ramblings
  36. Subject: Smoking in Athens
  37. Subject: I LOVE MARLBORO
  38. Subject: Sign Me Up!
  39. Subject: Tin/Can Tobacco
  40. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #221 -- August 6, 1996
  41. Subject: Re: Benjamins
  42. Subject: What Ever Happened to..Dept.
  43. Subject: My Tinsky Pipe...
  44. Subject: Re: Address change request for Pipes Digest
  45. Subject: Italian tobaccoes
  46. Subject: Savinelli Balsa filter
  47. Subject: Transamerica life policy
  48. Subject: new (and accidental) C&D blend
  49. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #221
  50. Subject: Introduction & questions
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