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Subject: Pipes Digest #232 -- February 21, 1997

		Pipes Digest #232 -- February 21, 1997
   Copyright (C) 1997 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 2793

Welcome to new members:

	David Mann
	Mr. Frederick P. Straccia
	Paul Mei
	Terry McCammon, P.E.
	Tim Height
	Bruce W. Fowler
	Jeremy Mauel
	Christopher H. Newnan
	Steve Chubb
	Hector Lecuanda Ontiveros
	Jim Grimes
	Vince Villi
	Brian Newton
	Earl Crecelius
	Chris Esser
	Steve Robinson
	Neal J. Jardine
	Jennifer Lindblad
	Michael Martin
	Hugh P. Hobbs, IV
	Rick Hennes
	Luigi De Carlo
	Bart De Groot
	Kelly Oakeson
	Christian Bergler
	Jed Johnson
	Mike Coppola
	Paul M. Conrad
	James Andrew Lovette
	Kevin R. Spengel
	J. Brady Lee
	Paul Simmons
	Allan Keeton
	John R. Hill
	Victor M. Aguilar
	Robert Hall
	Kenneth E. Akerman
	Chloe Benetatos
	Francesco Vanoni
	Paul Farrell
	Louis P. Bernard
	Stan Chan
	Paul D. Glicker
	Andrew W. Zold
	Myron Gomes
	John Miranda
	Drache Von Rostock
	Julius Rocco
	John Ostergren
	Neil Block
	Elliot F. Edwards
	Gordon Padwick
	Charles Ballard
	Chris Hartley
	Ralph King
	John J. Devenney, Jr.
	Jesper Klith
	Levo Pimaric
	Jim Davis
	Bill Hammel
	Walter Cuje
	Enrique Bescansa
	Nick Spill
	Joseph R. Simon
	Justin Ryan Lassiter
	James A. Holland
	Graeme T. Steel
	Dave Decroix
	Kenneth W. Allen
	Simon Mitchell
	Chris Myrick
	Al Craig
	Rudi Schiffer
	Roman Skyva
	Marc Paquette
	Alan Adelman
	Douglas A. Pitts
	Richard M Katz
	Michael Karrengarn
	David A. Draper
	David Brattstrom
	Tom Johnson
	Kwong Ha
	Richard Palenske
	Kenneth V. Ackerman
	Jim Kinsey
	Gary W. Raymond
	Fabrizio Nicolucci
	Paul A. Carder
	Clifton G. Ross
	Ken Corey
	Vernon Wilson
	Roy L. Wallace
	Joel Webb
	Lynne Falco
	Michael J Mcconkey
	Jim Henderson
	Mario R. Lopez
	Anders Jarfjord
	Dan Bateham
	Thomas E. Keener
	Dwain Peaden
	Thomas Oberwetter
	Jason Stroud
	Robb Smith
	Byron D. Grimes
	Michele Croci
	Andy Robinson
	Julian Gude
	David Diedrich
	B. Berner
	Leslie T. Blazey

[ADMIN]  For some reason, a fair number of the copies of PD #231
bounced with messages like this:

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I've never seen these kind of bounces before.  It also doesn't appear
to just be happening on the Digest home site; the destination sites
are the ones that are complaining.  If anyone knows what's going on,
please drop me a note!

And now, to fire up an infrequent Don Tomas, which has been patiently
waiting in the tupperdor for me to edit this edition...

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From: ????????????
Subject: Tobacco Pouch Material Needed

Steve, thank you and your colleagues for the Pipe Digest.

I am writing to ask my fellow pipe smokers for help in locating materials for
a tobacco pouch I want to make for a dear friend who is having orthopedic
surgury in mid-February.

I want to make him a pigskin pouch but have been unable to find the leather
or the opaque yellow polyethalene plastic liner material.

The leather I am looking to purchase is the leather in fine gloves, namely, a
rich tobacco brown leather with knots in it.  The liner material is a
specialty item I have not been able to find a manufacturer of.

Any help in this endeavor will be greatly appreciated.

Dick Galineau

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From: Regan Warner <??????????????????>
Subject: Tobacco Pouches (Leather)

I have a tanned piece of deer hide that I would deerly {pun intended}
love to convert into a leather tobbaco pouch.  I like the aesthetic
element of pipe smoking: Briar Peterson, Brass Zippo, grabbing a spelt
of tobacco from a ziplock baggie ..... no wait, stop, hold it
 ...... seems to sully the experience not to mention raise the eyebrows
of on lookers who assume nefarious intent and illegal contents.  Now,
if I had a leather pouch, the picture would be complete, as it were;
and onlookers can only look askance at me for being a smoking pariah.
So I guess my question is ... what are the approximate dimensions of a
tobacco pouch (I'm leaning towards a three-fold), and does anyone have
any literature relating to these?  Oh, yeah, my question on
subscription seems to have cleared itself up by giving the firewall a
swift boot from the DNS Server and going to a static address.



Regan I Warner
Product Verification Manager
ISOTRO Internet Naming and Addressing
e-mail: ??????????????????  http://www.isotro.com/
vox: +1.613.722.1921 fax: +1.613.722.1997
geog:  75M-041'25" W 45M-025'10" N
"They still prefer sheep to thinking men,
but men that think like sheep are even better"
Brian McNeill

[ As a rough guess, 3 by 6 inches (rolled up) seems about an average
size. -S. ]

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From: HAIM MAHLEV <???????????????????????>

Hi, Steve!

I've noticed that there isn't a tobacco/pipe store listed in the resource
guide that is from Israel. I dont know whether many people are interested in
pipe smoking in Israel, but i would like to recommand a very good pipe
store. It is called "Koplik Tobacco", and it is in 7 Bialik Street,
Ramat-Gan, Israel. The vendor is very helpful and nice, and he has a very
impressive variety of pipe tobaccos and cigars (and the knowlegde they
require...). Hope the info will help someone in the future!!

Smoke in peace

Haim Mahlev
Haim Mahlev                      | Rien ne sert de courir
Conductor                            |
Arranger                               | Il Faut partir a point
IDF orchestra	          | 
???????????????????????  |            (Oeusop)

[Don't know either, Haim, but it's in the Guide now, for the benefit
of whomever is interested! -S.]

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Are there any pipe smokers located near Brantford, Ontario?  I'd be
interested in getting together to talk and have a smoke.  Please
e-mail me at ?????????????????????? Pal

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From: Anthony Amorteguy <???????????>
Subject: Re: German Pipe

Here is the the page (finally).

It is located at    http://www.caamp.com/pipe/

If you have trouble try   http://www.caamp.com/pipe/index.html

Let me know what you think!

Anthony Amorteguy

"Folly is a more dangerous enemy to the good than evil."

"One can protest against evil; it can be unmasked and, if need be,
prevented by force. Evil always carries the seeds of its own
destruction, as it makes people, at the least, uncomfortable. Against
folly we have no defense."

				- Dietrich Bonhoeffer
				  Letters from Prison

[ Thanks, Anthony!  Haven't checked it out yet myself, but I will do
so when I can get back to a machine with Web access. -S. ]

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From: HAIM MAHLEV <???????????????????????>
Subject: Geothe

Hi Steve!

I just wanted to say that i read all the translations concerning the
porcelan pipe from germany, but i noticed that they skipped something. I
really dont know, perhaps i didnt see it, so if someone wrote this, i'm
sorry for accusing, but, what the heck, it wouldn't hurt to say it twice:
The first sentance, translated "Who, that has eaten his bread with tears"
(ass, not sah!) is a sentence taken from one of GEOTHE songs. Only the first
sentance is Geothe's, the rest is the continuation of the idea. The same
sentence can be found both in a Schubert and a Schuman songs, volume 2 (in
both). In Schubert - page 35 (vol. II) in his "collected works". And another
thing - Linddo is indeed Lindau, according to a friend of mine, that was
born in 1919 in Vienna.

Thank you and keep on the work!!
Haim Mahlev                      | Rien ne sert de courir
Conductor                            |
Arranger                               | Il Faut partir a point
IDF orchestra	          | 
???????????????????????  |            (Oeusop)

[ Thank you for the clarifications! -S. ]

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From: Roy Burnham <??????????????????????>
Subject: Best and worst of pipe smoking.

Hi Steve
Thanks for adding me to your list of subscribers.  I look forward to 
hearing the wide divergence of views and anecdotes re pipe smoking, an 
addiction of mine for nearly 35 yrs. (I started fairly young)
We hear a lot about the joys of pipe smoking but how about some horror 
stories?  Let me kick off with something that happened while I was a 
student back in the UK.  A friend went on holiday to Austria and returned 
with Tyrolean pipe which he presented me with.  It had all the bells and 
whistles; a hinged lid, multiple little metal stars all over the bowl, a 
dangling green cord with a pair of tassles and a rather strange round 
mouthpiece.  The only thing it seemed to lack was some kind of built in 
timepiece!  A notable feature was it's very high gloss varnish finish 
which appeared to be a 1/4 inch thick.
I duly filled it and applied a light.  Unfortunately I inhale pipe smoke 
and at that point I thought I was going to die.  It appears the varnish 
was applied not only to the exterior of the bowl but the interior as 
well!  Maybe they just dipped the whole thing.  
It took several minutes of coughing, hacking and choking before I could 
properly catch my breath again.  If any pipe smokers visit Austria and 
are tempted by the wares, beware!  What you are looking at may only be 
designed to hang on a wall.
If, however, there are any Austrian pipe makers out there who would like 
to compensate me for my near death experience and prove that they can 
make real pipes I can be conacted by email.
Best regards

[ Thanks for the heads-up, Roy!  Even for those of us who don't
inhale, burned lacquer would detract from the taste. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????? (Stephen B Bray)
Subject: Porcelian Pipes,

Dear Digest,
I have enjoyed reading the recent articles on porcelain pipes, and I would
like to share some information on the subject taken from the George Zorn &
Co.catalogue 1892. The catalogue refers to them as German Students pipes
and China pipes. The stems were sold in Cherry, Weichsel, Pepper, and
Ebony. Here is their description. " Student Pipes are an old German
invention, for the purpose of freeing the smoke from nicotine, which is
caught by the socket under the bowl. They are very picturesque in
appearance and serve as a practical decoration in a sitting-room or study .
In nearly all great Universities of Germany the student  prizes his  pipe
quite as highly as the sportsman does his gun". If any one is interested
and could assist me with details, on dimensions for the sockets and bowls
for these pipes I would be able to reproduce these hard to find items.
For anyone that has not had the pleasure of seeing this beautifully
reproduced catalogue,George Zorn & Co. Pipes & Smokers Articles, I highly
recommend it. The 160 page catalogue, contains hundreds of illustrations of
every smoking article you could imagine. It also comes with descriptions of
materials and methods used in different kinds pipe manufacturing.
The catalogue was originally  distributed as a wholesale catalogue to
retailers. All items are illustrated and priced. This makes it even more
pleasurable to view. One example I enjoy is the "Artistically carved French
briar pipes", sold in trays of one dozen for $4.00, or $45., for a gross.
How about a rubber Cigar Tube, sounds tasty. Some of the information is
humorously dated also. This book has won the exclusive and prestigious
honour of being my favourite bathroom  book. Like a bowl of your favourite
tobacco, the bathroom, is equally stimulating for deep thought and
reflection.  If you would like a copy of this, or any of Paul's
(reproduction ) Pipe Catalogues, write to :
Paul Jung, Jr. P.O. Box 817 Bel Air, MD 21014 U.S.A..

Your most humble servant, Stephen Bray Pipemaker.

Olde World Fine Clays
249 South Street
Glace Bay, Nova Scotia
Canada B1A 1W6
(902) 849 1383

[ Could you take the dimensions from the drawings, Stephen? -S. ]

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From: Mark Y Berman <???????????????????????>
Subject: Zenith Christmas Pipe

Hi! I receive the DIGEST via e-mail; great!  I have collected the Zenith 
Porcelain Christmas pipes ever since they came out, 13-14 years ago. I 
have not been able to find them this year (Christmas 1996).  One shop 
told me that they did not see them at the dealer's show this year.  Does 
anyone have info on this?  Have they stopped making them?  If not, how 
can I latch onto one?  Thanks, and keep up the great effort!!!!!!!!  


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From: Chris Esser <?????????????????????>
Subject: Do you live in NJ?

Unless I'm confused, I think I read that you live in central NJ.  I live
in Red Bank, and was wondering what your opinion of the best selection,
and also the best pipe shop overall was for NJ?  The only shop I have
yet felt welcomed in was the Westfield Pipe Shop.  The selection is on
the small side, but high in quality, and the prices were very fair.  

The Tinderbox in Red Bank has greatly expanded the selection, but his
prices across the board are pure piracy, and the proprietor's knowledge
is small.  The Red Pipe, also in Red Bank has a miserable codger as
proprietor, and I hate to give him any business but he is my only local
source for Dunhill and Mac Baren tobacs.

I'm particularly interested in any sources for estate pipes locally. 
Most of the proprietors of the antique galleries I've been to look at me
with a mixture of shock and horror when I inquire about "used" pipes.

In any event, I'm really looking forward to my first attendance of the
NY Pipe Club show in March.  I just hope I can scrape up a couple
hundred to bring with me.  The effort on the page never ceases to amaze
me, as I am currently trying to nail down an HTML/intranet development
job.  Nice work!
Chris Esser
mailto : ??????????????????
http://members.aol.com/KINGSQUEAK/sound.htm <home page>
http://members.aol.com/krstnpiper/kirsten.htm <pipe page>

[ Don't get to Red Bank very much, so I can't help you there!  There
are only two local shops I patronize with any frequency: Tobacco Hut
in Somerville and Di Franco in Trenton.  Neither of these has, for
instance, John B. Hayes beat in most ways.  John David in Menlo Park
Mall might be worth a try; haven't been there since they were forced
out of Quakerbridge.  Oh, yes... Little Taste of Cuba in Princeton now
carries Esoterica (and had a somewhat, er, unpleasant young man
running the shop in Jorge's absence last Saturday.)

There's also a decent shop in Bridgewater Commons.  But I will plan to
make it to the NYPC show! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: My own Humidor and the missing 'Cedar' wood

First of all my personal thanks to you for doing such a great job. 
I look forward to each month's issue and read it all in one breath.    
This is my first post.
I'm leaving close to Milan, located in the north side of Italy, a foggy
place during winter time.
The reason of my posting is related to << Humidor >>, i've been
reading a lot on this item and finally i decided to get start building
up my own.  Problems arised as i start looking for the 'Spanish Cedar'
wood, needed for the interior side of the box.  Seems that this kind
of wood is unknown in all the wood stores i did try.  I did find a
good wood for the external side, but no luck with 'Cedar' one.  I know
the most of the subscribers are located in US, but may be somebody
could help me finding out some pieces of this wood.  Thanks again for
the great opportunities you are giving to all of us.

Greetings to EveryOne

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: comment from pipes page


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From: ????????????????????
Subject: New cigar, CAONAO

Dear Steve:
I am helping a group of cubans "tabaqueros" to market a fine cigar. 
CAONAO is made from the best selection of Dominican and Honduran tabaco. 
This "tabaqueros" are making an excellent cigar that soon will be in 
great demand. CAONAO has great construction. For more information contact 
me at ????????????????????

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

     Did you ever want to have your own line of cigars? Lahav
Advertising Specialties brings you "CIGARS WITH YOUR LOGO". You can
now have hand meade premium cigars with your four colored logo on
it. Low mininum orders of only 50 pieces. E-mail us for more
information at ??????????????????

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From: "Nicholas Spill" <????????????????>
Subject: New listing from on line cigar store

dear Steve
I have just subscribed to your mailing list and am requesting a one time
plug for my commerical web site. (Hope this is ok). Also want to link to
your site too. (Do you have a small gif I can stick next to your link?).

Nick's Cigars
Hard to find premium cigars at reasonable prices
email: ????????????????????

I have good contacts here in Miami for hard to find cigars. (sorry no

I"D ALSO like to link my site to yours
my links page is

ALSO: I really didn't mean to plug my on line cigar site here - you can
take it out if inapproriate.

Best memory of College was the University of Auckland Pipe Society
I became a member of the Iron Lung and still have the blue and silver
lapel pin. Because of restrictive imports to NZ back in the early '70's
we specially ordered pipe tobacco and shared it in our Pipe Soc at
weekly meetings - then members talked about the mixture with wit,
bizarre stories, evocative anacdotes and lively conversation - clearly
the best memories of the life of the intellect clouded by wonderful
smoke. We had women pipe smokers in our club (very unusual in those
days) and a horse, so we were truly ahead of our time.
Even though I love cigars I find I usually sell any boxes of hard to
find cigars on my web site: http://www.nickscigars.com  - so I have
resumed my pipe smoking with great pleasure - unfortunately I no longer
have my great collection of pipes I once had in NZ.


[ No problem, Nick! But... was the _horse_ a pipe smoker too? -S. ]

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From: lambing family <#?????????????????????>
Subject: PD  info and Question

Hi Everybody.
We have a new Pipe & Cigar friendly Rest. in St. Louis Missouri
Wilbur & Gil's in Westport Plaza. I'll send you the address ect. when i
find them so you may include it in your resouce guide. Its a 3,400 sq.
ft. Rest & Bar with a walk in humidor that carrys 40 lines of cigars
that are offered in more thatn one size. Prices range from $3 to $21.

By the way has anyone heard anymore about the club lighters. Last
message I got was that the design & cost was decided. But have not heard
anything since.

[ There have been a couple of inquiries on the status of the lighters,
so I asked Eeyore to let us know what's up.  Here's the scoop. -S. ]

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From: Elliott Evans <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Pipe Digest Zippo lighters

??????????????????? writes:
> Maybe we'd better put in a status update in the next PD?

OK, here's one:

Custom Pipe Lighter Status:

The lighters have been ordered, and according to my distributor, are
in production. The pre-production proofs I saw looked great.

The lighters should be done in the next few weeks, and as soon as I
get them another notice will go out.

For those of you who have ordered:

	I have your orders, and will send you personal email when
	the lighters come in.

For those of you who have ordered and already sent checks:

	I have your checks, uncashed, on my desk, where they will stay
	until I get the lighters. Once I have the lighters, I will
	mail them out and start cashing checks.

For those of you who have not ordered:

	Out of the 100 lighters ordered, two are still unspoken-for.
	To order, email me your name and mailing address.

Elliott C. "Eeyore" Evans		[email protected]

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From: "Bruce R. Beaman" <???????????????????>
Subject: Pipes on IRC

Greetings, Steve:

Enjoying Pipes Digest with each successive issue and I join other
subscribers in thanking you for it.

Several times I have seen mention of the pipesmoker's Internet Relay Chat
channel here, with your comment that you don't know much about it; I hope
the following will rectify that, and I extend a cordial invitation to you
and to PD readers to join us.

The best place to start is the channel's Web page, wherein our Esteemed
Founder, Tim Barkley, has posted more information. From there one can link
to download chat software (most of us use mIRC), find answers to some of
the mysteries of IRC, etc.


The channel (#pipes) is on dal.net, and to avoid lag it is best to connect
to the firehouse.tx.dal.net server (don't give up if you can't get on
first try--it's a busy server). The room is usually at its most lively
between the hours of 9:00 P.M. and midnight, U. S. central standard time,

We have a good group of regulars and newcomers are always welcome. It
doesn't matter whether you smoke Prince Albert in a Dr. Grabow or an aged
Virginia in a Dunhill, young or old, veteran or new to pipesmoking, we'd
be pleased to have you light up a favorite briar and join us for some
conversation. Occasionally even some luminaries from the Pipe World have
dropped by (Mark Tinsky, Craig Tarler, Bob Hamlin, et. al.). 

Hoping to see you on #pipes some evening (when there, BTW, I'm Spiffyng or
Spiff for short).

Best wishes,

Bruce R. Beaman

[ Thanks, Bruce!  I've added the Web page to the Guide. Oneadesedays,
I'll have to remember how to use IRC and get on #pipes too. -S. ]

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From: Chuck Seyboldt <???????????????????????>
Subject: New tobacco shop in Portland (fwd)

For those of you who visit Portland, Maine from time to time, this may be
of interest.  It was certainly a pleasant surprize to see this shop!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 17:07:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Chuck Seyboldt <???????????????????????>
To : DAVID GERSTEL <?????????????????>
Subject: New tobacco shop in Portland

The operators of The Calabash are opening another shop, the new one in an
area of town known as "The Old Port".  I stopped by today, the store
isn't open for business yet, but Ali, the shopkeeper was very friendly and
told me about the lines of cigars and pipes that he plans to carry, as
well as about the sort of atmosphere he is trying to create.  The front
room will be a cafe style, a place to drink coffee, and maybe smoke.  The
back room is clearly a smoking lounge, although on my visit today, that
area was being painted.  The lounge will be set-up as a living room, with
comfy seating, etc.

Anyway, this place is very close to my current office, so I will probably
check it out from time to time.  Looks like a very nice place to go, and
the selection should be very good, although not "outstanding".  Still, a
credible variety of cigars is available now, and the pipe selections will
include Comoy, Sasieni, Savinelli, GBD, and maybe Ascorti.  Pipe tobacco
will come from Lane, and they will do some in-house blending as well.  The
tinned varieties that they will sell include MacBaren's and Dunhill's. I
asked specifically about Bengal Slices and was told that this brand was
NOT going to be stocked. 

Chuck Seyboldt             |    Here come those Santa Anna winds again
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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: Meerschaum Pipes

Meerschaum Pipes: I'm looking for Meerschaum Pipes with the carved
faces of Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Watson.  My husband saw them in a
store in Texas and we've been unable to find them since.  Has anyone
seen these pipes or know where I could buy them?  Thanks.

[Holmes and Watson are popular subjects; you shouldn't have too hard a
time. If you can't find them more locally, check with Sultan
Meerschaum Pipes in Ankara; their address is in the Guide. -S. ]

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From: "Walter Koenig" <???????????????????>
Subject: unsubscribe

Thanks to Steve for the news group.  I've enjoyed my Sunday logins
since that is when I pick up your posting. I was given the choice of
the USS Constellation or USS Independence for my next tour of duty.
Since I'm established and my family is happy here in San Diego I chose
the Connie.  A mighty aircraft carrier and a major job for me.

I will be part of the Combat Systems suite that maintains the
electronics and self defense weapons on the vessel.  The sad part will
be the fact that Connie will be deploying very soon.  And surprise, me
to.  Email will become harder to get!  Although the truth be known the
ship does have email capability via satellite links.  Amazing when you
remember only few short years ago while I was on the USS Ranger the
ship was getting Christmas packages still in March.

	Alas, maybe near Christmas I can re-apply and become a lurker
once again.

	Good Smoking


[ Walt, best of luck on the Constellation, thank you for your work
with the Navy, and hope to have you lurking again soon! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I am writing a research paper on pipe smoking as a hobby.

[ Did you have a question for the group? -S. ]

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From: ??????????????? (Stefano Toria)
Subject: A Good Start

This is a useful trick I just learned. Maybe you all know it and it is
old news to you, but here it is.

Do you have trouble in lighting and keeping alight? Find a box/bag of
old, dry tobacco; dry it up as much as possible on a stove or heater,
then grind it up to a powder and pass it through a sieve. The idea is
to make it almost as thin as talcum powder. Then use it to light up;
after having filled, put a couple of pinches on top of the tobacco
before lighting, the idea is of forming a layer about 1 mm. (.04 in.)
thick. Tamper a bit, then light up, then tamper again. It will form a
solid cake of burning tobacco which will eventually burn right to the
bottom of the bowl; with very little attention and the occasional
tamper you won't need another match.

Happy smoking,

| Stefano Toria              | lutenist,               |
| ???????????????            | full-time daddy (of 4), |
| Rome, Italy      U/~       | dedicated sleeper,      |
|                            | jack-of-all-trades.     |

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From: Jack Fox <??????????????????????????>
Subject: additions to resources


I am a new subcriber and enjoy the Digest very much.  I noticed that
several sources for pipes and tobacco in my area are not included and
would like to submit these additions if I may.

Please add these addition to pipe and tobacco retail shops in the
Richmond, VA area:

Island Tobacco & Gifts
Willow Lawn Shopping Center
Richmond, VA

Silk Leaf Collection
106 S. Center St.
Ashland, VA
804/798-4667  (They carry Cornell & Diehl) 

Shoppes at Innsbrook
Richmond, VA

Tobacconist of Richmond
11004 W. Broad St.
Richmond, VA

Tinder Box
3 James Center
Richmond, VA  

Tobacco House
3138 W. Cary St.
Richmond, VA  

[ The Tobacco House was already in the Guide, but the rest are
novel. Thanks, Jack! -S. ]

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From: "Nanosh J. Lucas" <????????????????????>
Subject: Pulvers' Prior Briar

Hello Steve and everyone:

I've been reading as much as I can, which means about every third issue,
but I'm doing my best...

This message is an advertisement for the Pulvers' Prior Briar newly updated
web pages at:


Right now we have the new list of pipes.  We are expecting to sell cigars &
accessories very soon as well, and so we can head off some of those
questions about pipe refurbishing, I've written up something on our pipe
refurbishing page that should be helpful (should be up by Thurs, or so...)

If this isn't appropriate, trash it - otherwise, thanks!

Nanosh J. Lucas
Netreach Communications
P.O. Box 1238
Alviso, CA  95002
Phone/Fax: 408-262-0189

[ Fine so far, Nanosh! I've updated the Web address. -S. ]

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From: Michael George <?????????????????????>
Subject: Indianapolis tobacconists

Hi all!

I'm going to be in Indianapolis this weekend, and I may have some time on my
hands to check out a good smoke shop.  Anyone know of any good shops in the
Indianapolis area?

Also, I'm going to try to make some humidors for my tobacco.  I've
read in the FAQ about the wet oasis foam in the film containers as the
humidifier, but I will still need containers to put them in.  What
kind of containers has anyone had luck with?  Rubbermaid/Tupperware
work?  I'd prefer to stick to glass jars for aesthetic reasons, which
work well, and where can they be easily found (not many people can
food anymore...)?

Please respond directly via e-mail on the first question, I only have
a couple days before I leave...

Thank you!

-Michael George

[ I've responded by email; there are three shops and one cigar club
listed in Indianapolis. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I have been reading some of the articles in this fine magazine. I have
to say I am very impressed there are articles of instruction for new
and novice pipe smokers.  My Father has been smoking a pipe for over
forty years, I think I picked up smoking a pipe as a way of honouring
him but I was suprised how relaxing it can be. I was given a three dot
Brigham for Christmas this year and it is my first pipe.  I picked out
the design but it was bought for me by my girlfriend who is very
supportive of my new found pleasure, she also got me a Zino cigar. Wow
what a woman!  My pipe and a snifter of Glenmorangi single malt scotch
and I am in heaven. I am twenty four years old and live in Canada but
will soon be living in WA state. If anyone could suggest a good
tobbaco shop near Bellingham or Seattle area it would be most
appreciated.  I am also looking for a shop that carries Zino
cigars. Keep the Faith and THanks for the great Magazine!

Robert Kiernan

[ Definitely get in touch with Bobby Holstein and the Seattle Smokers,
at ???????????????????? -S. ]

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From: "Kurdsjuk, Jacob (Jake), CT" <?????????????????>
Subject: Miscellaneous Smoke Signals


Happy New Year, slightly belated, to all my brothers, and sisters of the
briar.  My hearty congratulations to Steve Beaty for his award winning
website.  If ever there was a place for your one-stop-shopping pipe
needs www.pipes.org is it!  Otherwise I just wanted to relay a couple
pipe related topics to the group.

Thanks to the generosity of a nearby pipe carver and friend (well known
to the group but nameless here as I have not solicited his permission to
use his name - but thank you again sir!), I have joined the ranks of the
amateur pipemaker.  With his shop and expertise at my disposal I managed
to produce a lovely paneled freehand, which smokes even better than it
looks (the Tilbury currently inside it is providing me with great
pleasure even now as I type away).  There is truly nothing like the
feeling of satisfaction derived from a good smoke, especially in
something you've created.  Needless to say this will not be the last!

I have also just recently joined The Universal Coterie of Pipe Smokers,
albeit far later than I ever should have.  The Pipe Smoker's Ephemeris
is everything that I've heard about and more.  Tom Dunn provides a truly
marvelous publication and I strongly urge all others who have not yet
joined to do so immediately.  I have ordered the second T.P.S.E. book
and anxiously await its arrival.  If anyone out there has a copy of Book
I they are willing to part with please let me know.

I am planning to go to the New York Pipe Club show March 7 & 8 and would
look forward to meeting and sharing a pipe or two with any other digest
members who are planning on attending.  There are not a lot of places to
do this in my neck of the woods and therefore I do not get the
opportunity to do this very often.  Please feel free to contact me if
you are attending and would like to hook up.

Finally, I'd like to relay an anti-smoking incident which happened over
this past weekend.  I was attending my cousins wedding in Long Island.
My mother's entire family smokes cigarettes, almost to a member, and
though I have never had one myself I have learned to tolerate the smell
even though I personally find it extremely unappealing.  I spent the
cocktail hour catching up with family members who I haven't seen in
quite some time, and at one point or another each one lit up with no
reaction from nearby tables, most of which also had a smoker or two.
Since cocktails were being served for 2 hours I had more than ample time
to enjoy a pipe so I filled my bowl with some Nording Collector's (I
don't smoke aromatics regularly but brought this due to its 'more
pleasant' aroma) and lit up.  No sooner had I taken several puffs when I
heard mock coughing coming from some ladies at the table next to us.
Within seconds the entire table rose and, with scowls in my direction,
proceeded to go to another room.  Though I probably should have been
thankful to be rid of them I found myself wondering why there is such a
double standard?  Could one pipe in an already smoke filled room be that
bad?  I found it difficult from that point on to truly enjoy my pipe and
so I put it away - something I more than likely would have done had they
been kind enough to ask.  It is incidents like these that make it
difficult for me to take up the fight for smoker's rights when it often
seems like the only person who truly seems to have the right is the
cigarette smoker.  Nonetheless I refuse to relegate myself to smoking
only in my home - a place where even my wife, a vehement non-smoker, has
learned that a good pipe can not only be tolerated but also enjoyed by
the non-smoker as well.

Maybe someday we can all...

Smoke In Peace!

Jake Kurdsjuk

By some curious chance one morning long ago in the quiet of the world,
when there was less noise and more green, and the hobbits weere still
numerous and prosperous, and Bilbo Baggins was standing at his door
smoking an enormous long wooden pipe that reached nearly down to his
woolly toes (neatly brushed) - Gandalf came by.

[ Their decision to depart was, I believe, no great loss for
you. And, yes, a Digest get-together would be a good idea!  Let's
convelge at 11:00 at the entrance to the show -- if we haven't found
each other already. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: Odd wood pipes

Douglas Mitchell <?????????????????????> asks:

> I'm interested in pipes made from wood other than briar.
> What's the common wisdom on the best woods and the verdict on smoking
> performance?

I suspect, in general, that most woods have been tested at one time or
another, and found wanting. Tobacco and metal tools have been together
for some five hundred years, offering more than sufficient opportunity.

That said, I made a couple of pipes in my misspent youth. My first test
was fir, merely to establish the technology. It was, as expected, a
Seriously Bad Idea, and was discarded after the first smoke.

My second pipe was a rosewood bowl with a silver stem. It smoked well
and cool (the stem cools the smoke, but I haven't noticed the expected
problems with condensation. Possibly because, since I made the stem myself,
it leaks ;-). The rosewood adds a faint scent/flavor of its own that makes
smoking the pipe quite pleasurable.

I had planned to make a series of pipes in odd hardwoods. While I was
looking at several exotic South American hardwoods at a local supplier,
I found one that can have a poison ivy like effect, and is best worked in
mask and gloves. It occurred to me that breathing the thoroughly untested
fumes of obscure trees might not be in my best interests, so I canceled
the project and put away the rosewood.

If you DO try it, let us know how it went. Assuming you survive. ;-)

Ride safe, smoke at great risk,


                   Martin Golding                           |  Live to ride,
DoD #236 DBS #1 MAB #2 UB #3 FOGOBUM #2 SMTC #3 KotLQ KotSM |   ride to work.
???????????????????????   Portland, OR

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From: Jonathan Green <?????????????????????????>
Subject: James Upshall

Hi Steve,

Great job with the pipes digest, a real pleasure to read.

A while ago I heard that an Italian had bought out James Upshall and
would soon re-commence the manufacture of these fine pipes. I was asking
my tobacconist about it today and he wasn't very optimistic, in fact his
exact words were 'don't hold your breath.' Does anyone have any 'insider
info' as to what is happening??? I ahve 3 JU pipes and they are
excellent smokers and I would love to expand my collection.


Jonathan Green                                  
E-Mail ?????????????????????????                        

[ No news about Upshall here since PD @200, Jonathan. There were some
postings in alt.smokers.pipes, but I hadn't read them. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Smoke sucking things!!

Hi Steve,
It's been awhile since I've written in.  I just wanted to ask if anyone had
any suggestions for a good brand of a smokless ashtray--or other such
device that I could use for my pipe.  Not that I have problems with smoke--
it's just that my room has zero ventilation!!  Any help would be

-David Tracy

[ Thanks for clarifying that, David!  I thought you might have been
referring to the membership!  Seriously, though, I have a Honeywell
air filter that does OK, but not great. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: virginia and perique blends

I really enjoy the virginia and perique blen Pebblecut by Ashton, and
I am looking for other blends that are somewhat similiar.  I've heard
of Escudo, but my tobacconist doesn't carry it, and he can't find it
on the order form either.  I would also appreciate a good blend that
is a little cheaper than $4 ounce...

                    _  .-^^-._     o 
                   )~\.)      @\  ,
                   (       \_   <
byebye,             )/`-.    _./
tom                      )_/     

[ Escudo isn't made anymore, and those who have it are hanging onto it
pretty tightly. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????? (John Paine)
Subject: pipe shop in Paris; nasty rumor

Dear Steve,
     Newly returned from another brief stay in France, I want to report on
the pipe shop perhaps most worth visiting in Paris:

Les Pipes de Cogolin
129 rue St. Honore
75001 PARIS  tel.  (from France) (01) 40 28 03 19

This place is already in the Guide, but there's the info anyway.  It has a
vast assortment of briar in all shapes and in the moderate price range.
The high-end collector will be disappointed, but others will find much to
marvel at.  Carved animal heads, large and small sizes, and some
meerschaums. The briars are produced at the ovner's workshops in the South
of France, thus the large inventory.  Plenty of lighters and other
paraphernalia as well. The shop is just a couple of steps from the Louvre
Museum, just off the rue du Louvre.  Worth a visit of consolation while the
Sig. Other takes the credit card up the street to the boutiques.

        Also:  any truth to the nasty rumor that in 97 all Brit producers
of pipe tobacco will refuse definitively to ship to the US, for fear of law
suits?  This has begun already, of course, with Gawith & Hogarth in 96.

        As always, you do a great job with the Digest!

[ I hadn't heard that rumor at all, John! Can anyone else confirm or
deny it?  

And, BTW, I have _zero_ respect for the ambulance chasers who
perpetuate personal irresponsibility for the sake of their contingent
fees.  Thereby depriving the rest of us of pleasures like private
aviation, affordable health care, hot coffee -- and pipes and
cigars. -S. ]

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From: Bruce Harris <??????????????????>
Subject: Butera Pipe Wanted

     I am looking to obtain a Butera pipe, either new or presmoked. Can any
of the members help?
Thanks, Bruce.

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From: ??????????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I have some old pipes; Perhaps 30 years old.  Some are The Pipe models
others are hand carved briar.  How would Ifind individuals who would
appreciate some of them?  I hate to treat them badly, and I can no
longer use Tabaco

[ Possibly some of the folks here could help you out! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Thanks for the very informative web page and digest.  I am new to
pipes but have enjoyed cigars since my father let me taste one of his
on my 11th birthday.  I wonder if anyone can recommend a shop (mail
order or in Denver) where I can obtain a modern-looking pipe.  I
already look 5 years older than my age, and a pipe makes me look even
older.  I don't smoke for the image, I smoke for relaxation and
pleasure, but it would be nice to have a pipe which looks
untraditional.  Also, if anyone knows of a tobacco blend which
approximates the taste of a Cuban Monte Cristo, I'd love to here about
it.  TIA -- Alan

[ How about a Kirsten? -S. ]

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From: Michael George <?????????????????????>
Subject: Kirsten pipes

Hi all!

I recently got a catalog from the Kirsten company and I like the looks of the
design of their pipes.  I smoke on a budget though (have a couple Dr. Grabow
that I'm ready to retire, and a Savinelli second that I really like), and
I was wondering if anyone would give me feedback on what they think of them.

I've read the digest back-issues, and they seem to be mostly well-accepted, but
I'd like more opinion and some other recommendations from Kirsten smokers, if
you don't mind.

My questions are:
	Do they smoke cool like they say?
	If a person smokes their pipe every other day or so, should one get an
		extra bowl?
	I've heard that wide bowls smoke easier, does that mean I should get a
		large bowl?
	Does a standard buttner work to clean the Kirsten bowl (they seem to
		be tapered inside from the diagram)?
	Is the longer stem better?

Thanks for any and all information.  Please respond by e-mail directly to me
to keep the useless(?) volume on the digest down for others (unless the moder-
ator thinks it *is* acceptable to reply to the list, in which case he can say

[Moderator, if you think people should respond by direct e-mail,
please either leave my address.  Thanks!]


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From: Francesco Vanoni <?????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe FAQ

Dear Moderator,

[ Administrativa deleted. -S. ]

By the way, where can I find more information about Cavendish Tobacco
and how to prepare my own sweet mixture ? Are there any recipes
available ? Any hint ?  I'm 25 years old (or young) and I smoke pipe
since 7 years. I really enjoy it !  Yesterday I placed an order at SBE
Seed and bought some tobacco seeds. I would like to grow my own
tobacco and to smoke my personal mixture. Where can I find more stuff
to read about that matter ?

Thanks in advance for your help !

Greetings from Switzerland !

Francesco Vanoni

?????????????????????    or     ??????????????????????????

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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hello again. I've given up my pipes and cigars for Lent (It's a
Catholic thing), so I'm reduced to writing about them to get any
pleasure from them.

I do have a query that I hope one of the Pipes Digest reader-experts
can answer: I recently came into possession of a pipe my dad smoked
before I was born (making the pipe at least 40 years old). It is a pot
shape, straight grain briar. It is stamped "Manhattan Imported Briar"
on the shank.

When my mom found it and gave it to me, I expected a pretty bad
smoke--my dad rarely went top shelf on any prodcut he bought. I was
quite surprised to find, after I cleaned it up, that it smoked very
nicely--dry and cool. On closer inspection I can find no "putty" or
other indications that this was a second.

Obviously, the pipe has great sentimental value--but now I'm beginning
to wonder if it has a collector value as well. Does anyone know
anything about "Manhattan" pipes?

Thanks for the chance to put in a few cents' worth.

Mark "Waiting for Easter" Carroll

[ Probably a second of some sort. 37 days and counting! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I am a newbie, and I am looking for good tabacco stores
in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

Thanks in advance,

Luiz Felipe Peixoto

[ Sorry, Luiz, the Guide does not have any listings in Brazil.  But
you might check with the South America Pipe Club
(http://www.brnet.com.br/callback/sapc.html). -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I've been a subscriber to the pipes digest for about two years and have enjoyed
it very much.  Since this is the first time I've written to the digest I might
as well tell a  little about myself.  I started out smoking cigars thirteen
years ago but after a few years I began to smoke pipes as well.  Since cigars
have become so popular (and so expensive) I'm now almost exclusively a pipe
smoker. My wife also tolerates pipes much better than cigars so I guess we're
both happy.

My wife recently bought me a beautiful briar, by far the nicest pipe I
own.  I don't know if it's because I started out with cigars but I
tend to smoke quickly so there's this huge cloud of smoke surrounding
my head.  My pipes have generally been inexpensive and quite durable.
I used to own a Lepeltier clay pipe, until I broke it, and a couple of
pipes made out of white stone (they're not meerschaum).  The problem
is that smoking this fast tends to burn out briars.  I'm trying to be
very careful with the new briar but I'm still worried that I'm
damaging it.  Inside the bowl there are a series of hairline cracks
which I'm concerned about.  Before I smoke the pipe I've began to wet
my finger and run it inside the bowl so it will stay cooler.  I'm also
trying to smoke more slowly (this isn't an easy habit to break).  Is
there anything else I can do to protect the pipe?

Keep up the great job of editing the digest, we all appreciate it!

Glenn Weller

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Quote of the Week:

	"Fifteen seconds after Scorpion flashed, Ted reached down to
	the parabolic mirror beside him and took from behind it a
	smoldering Pall Mall. He drew in a long, pleasing draught of
	smoke.  He had lit his cigarette with an atomic bomb."

				John McPhee
				_The Curve of Binding Energy_

				(Note: The moderator of the Digest
				 cautions members against attempting
				 to light a pipe in this manner.)

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #232 -- February 21, 1997
  2. Subject: Tobacco Pouch Material Needed
  3. Subject: Tobacco Pouches (Leather)
  4. Subject: posting from pipes page
  5. Subject: Re: German Pipe
  6. Subject: Geothe
  7. Subject: Best and worst of pipe smoking.
  8. Subject: Porcelian Pipes,
  9. Subject: Zenith Christmas Pipe
  10. Subject: Do you live in NJ?
  11. Subject: My own Humidor and the missing 'Cedar' wood
  12. Subject: comment from pipes page
  13. Subject: New cigar, CAONAO
  14. Subject: posting from pipes page
  15. Subject: New listing from on line cigar store
  16. Subject: PD info and Question
  17. Subject: Re: Pipe Digest Zippo lighters
  18. Subject: Pipes on IRC
  19. Subject: New tobacco shop in Portland (fwd)
  20. Subject: New tobacco shop in Portland
  21. Subject: Meerschaum Pipes
  22. Subject: unsubscribe
  23. Subject: posting from pipes page
  24. Subject: A Good Start
  25. Subject: additions to resources
  26. Subject: Pulvers' Prior Briar
  27. Subject: Indianapolis tobacconists
  28. Subject: posting from pipes page
  29. Subject: Miscellaneous Smoke Signals
  30. Subject: Odd wood pipes
  31. Subject: James Upshall
  32. Subject: Smoke sucking things!!
  33. Subject: virginia and perique blends
  34. Subject: pipe shop in Paris; nasty rumor
  35. Subject: Butera Pipe Wanted
  36. Subject: posting from pipes page
  37. Subject: posting from pipes page
  38. Subject: Kirsten pipes
  39. Subject: Pipe FAQ
  40. Subject: posting from pipes page
  41. Subject: posting from pipes page
  42. Subject: posting from pipes page
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