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Subject: Pipes Digest #233 -- March 9, 1997

		  Pipes Digest #233 -- March 9, 1997
   Copyright (C) 1997 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 2821

Welcome to new members:

	Rob Devlin
	Ken Mays
	Randal Bertuccelli
	Jim Haboustak
	Brad L. Evans
	Ben Schuchardt
	Brian J. Butler
	Don Singsaas
	Hans Wilthof
	David Sues
	Brian Forrest
	Andrew Carlson
	Bill Buppert
	Leif Eek
	Enrique Bescansa
	Tony Palmer
	Michael Rosenblum
	Andreas Wre Haugen
	Dave Hall
	Mats Brang
	Rick Scheffel
	Scott Burns
	Eric Zimmerman
	Dylan Rawlins
	Derek C. Underhill
	Paul Ritter
	Russ Oechslin
	Don H. Berry
	Daniel J. Bauer
	Mike Mccauley
	Mark Stam
	Paul A. Resko
	Ron W. Zorn
	Brandon Rottinghaus
	AJ Camhi
	Joao Villas Boas
	Blaine Allen Arsenault
	Larry Mc Spadden
	Bob Jenison
	Mark Dooler
	Daniel T. Gates
	Andy Lizon
	Harvey A. Eysman
	Roger Paulson
	Jim Buchanan
	Frank W. Merritt, Jr.
	M. Lembke
	Suzanna Miller
	Dr. Allan M. Hunchuk
	Brantley Allen
	Arthur R. Lum
	Bruce L. Nicholson
	James F Stack
	Peter Edert
	Bruce Merrill
	Steve Haney
	Ian Blew
	Robert Senter
	Taylor F Cameron
	Karan Mullen
	Lenny Korpus

[SEVEN BITS]  Thanks to all who sent me information about the
"seven-bit encoding" bounce problem that I reported in PD #232.

[NOTE FOR RETAILERS] This is apropos of some correspondence I had with
a well-known pipe dealer.  If a Digest member requests information,
it's fine to write him a letter and tell him what you can do for him.
And it's fine to mention in the letter that you're running a mailing
list, and ask him whether he'd like to be on it.  It's only a problem
with Net etiquette if the member didn't request information, or if you
put him on your mailing list without his explicit request. Just use a
little common sense and courtesy, and take a personal approach, and
everybody benefits!

And now, please allow me to take a personal approach with the big
bulldog I bought at the NYPC today, and bring you forthwith the
following missive...

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	    Help Stop Prohibition  --  Keep Tobacco Legal

		      Call  --  Write  --  Vote

			Then, smoke in peace.

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From: ?????????????????? (Scotty Fitzgerald)
Subject: Personal experience article submission

	Find below a "personal experience article" on my first visit
to, and my joining, a pipe smoking club.
	I hope it lives up to the editorial standards of "Pipes



	Ever since I became a Internet news and Email user, I've been
reading all I could on one of my favorite pastimes, pipe smoking.

	I started with the alt.smokers.pipes news group and would read
the articles.  A truly fascinating group, not only for being about
pipes, but it seems (just a casual observance) not to have as many
"follow up articles" as other newsgroups.  At first I felt a little
ignored, but then I figured it out logically: people weren't being so
verbose because efficient typing requires TWO hands to be on the
keyboard, and the readers probably had one hand occupied with their
favorite pipe!

	I read the articles about pipe smoking clubs and was curious,
but not enough to seek one out.  It sounded like fun but didn't seem

	My search for a favorite type of pipe led me to a mail order
estate pipe dealer in the nearby city of Poughkepsie.  He had a pipe
exactly like what I wanted, and really inexpensively, so I quickly
bought it.  When he saw my residence address on my purchase order, he
invited me to attend the pipe smoking club.

	So I went.  The club selected a beautiful and popular italian
restaurant in Poughkepsie, The Milanese.  We met a 6pm on the 21st in
the bar, where we set up a "smoking table."  Well, I was just welcomed
with open arms. 

	Not only did I get to meet and see some faces from behind the
computer messages, I got to meet and see the "prized babies" of some
local pipe collectors.  I explained myself as not being a real
collector or connoisseur, and was still made to feel quite welcome.
The pipe dealer who invited me let us examine first hand some of his
gems for sale, some of which I only saw in movies.  I showed off my
one and only strait grain, and immediately received a offer to trade,
which I refused.

	We discussed our favorite books for pipe smokers and I
exchanged my views on the breaking in of pipes, and received truly
helpful tips on pipe cleaning and pipe packing.

	We ordered very inexpensive and delicious meals and tried each
others tobaccos between courses.  Then we named the pipe club "The
Hudson Valley Pipe Club."  The fellows even allowed the newbie (me)
some input.

	After dinner, a special tobacco was brought out and enjoyed.
We then turned on a young employee of the restaurant to the pleasures
of pipe smoking.  He bought his first pipe, and I added three cherry
woods to my assortment.

	Too make a long story short (too late for that now!  :-))   )
For less than a cost of a date I had a wonderful evening with like
minded people, and walked away with three new pipes and a tin of
wonderful tobacco.

	Wouldn't miss the next meeting for the world!
Scotty Fitzgerald

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From: "Kenneth R. Seguin" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest submittal

Hi Steve. Please include this in the next PD if you think t is worthwhile.

Greetings. Might anyone have any information on Peterson's early 1900's

From what I've seen, they are quality Petersons (clean wood) and come in fitted
cases. Priced at $235 locally.

Have seen 1903, 1905, and 1910 re-issues. (2 billiards and a bulldog).

Compact, quality pipes. Excellent briar. Quite interesting and unique. Peterson
at its best.

Was wondering if this is a new or old series, how many pipes are in the series,
and if anyone else has an opinion on them.

Thanks, I've learned a lot here.

- Ken

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From: "Gamini Weerasekera" <????????????????????????????????????>
Subject: Zippo lighters

     >Subject: Re: Pipe Digest Zippo lighters
     >Custom Pipe Lighter Status:
     >The lighters have been ordered, and according to my distributor, are
     >in production. The pre-production proofs I saw looked great.
     Pipe and cigar smokers, certainly hope not using butane lighters!
     They impart an awful flavor.  Only cedar matches please.  
[ My Corona butane lighter works fine for me, Gamini! BTW, the order
was for liquid-fuel lighters (don't know the chemical name of lighter
fluid.) Some people like 'em fine, some don't. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Can anyone tell me how to contact the LePeltier clay pipe folks?  I've
got one of their pipes from about 20 years ago, and now would like
another but have lost track of them.  Is there a phone number or email
address anyone can offer?  TIA from Bob Kantor

[ Lepeltier's address is in the Guide, Bob.  But I haven't contacted
them in several years, so it may have changed. -S. ]

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From: Jennifer & Paul <?????????????????????????????????>
Subject: pipe burning hot

(Dear Moderator, I sent this to the magazines address, but later found out
it should be sent directly to you)

Being a new member, I feel delighted to be part of this international pipe
club, and I feel very grateful to Steve for making it possible.

Firstly, I want to respond to "Do you live in NJ?", about tobacco stores in
the NJ area.  There is a very nice tobacco store in Ridgewood, NJ, and if I
remember correctly the name is "The Tobacco Store."  Also, by exploring the
tobacco stores of Westchester County, NY, I've found that "The Smoker's Gift
Harbor" in Mount Kisco has a good selection of estate pipes (though a poor
selection of new pipes).  

Secondly,  I have a few questions concerning pipe smoking and tobacco.

1)  I have a new sandblasted Dunhill that burns very hot from the moment it
is lit.  There is a noticeable difference from my other pipes, and this pipe
has to be cooled down after every few puffs.  Is there a reason for this
other than poor quality briar (after all, it is a Dunhill)?  

2)  To what extent should one clean out the bowl after smoking a relatively
new pipe in order to not inhibit the build up of a good cake?  

3)  I recently purchased tobacco that was almost soaking wet.  Is it still
of high quality when dried out?

4)  If one has several pipes, and smokes both aromatic and english blends,
should certain pipes be designated for each type of tobacco, or can english
and aromatic tobaccos share the same pipe, so to speak?

Thanks very much!

Jennifer Lindblad

Jennifer Lindblad and Paul Terry
513 Martling Ave
Tarrytown, NY 10591

e-mail: ?????????????????????????????????

[ A tall order, Jennifer!  (1): My suspicion is that it's just not
broken in yet.  Keep trying!  It also could be the tobacco, or
possibly the walls of the pipe are thin. (2) I personally just scrape
out the ashes with a tool; don't ream it until the cake is built
up. (3) It isn't any good soaking wet, so just let it dry a bit,
mixing lightly by hand, until it's at proper moisture. (4) A debate
which has raged in alt.smokers.pipes for some time! If you can afford
to do it & have the patience to keep track, I think it'd be better to
reserve some for English and some for aromatic.  Another alternative
would be to rest the pipes for long enough to allow them to completely
dry out. -S. ]

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From: ????????????????????? (David S Chesler)
Subject: PD 232: Rio, parabolic mirrors

"Nanosh J. Lucas" <????????????????????> writes:
> I've been reading as much as I can, which means about every third issue,
> but I'm doing my best...

 He's got more time on his hands than I do!  (And soon to be even
less -- see http://world.std.com/~chesler/jack.html -- which, along
with his big sister is also why I don't get to smoke much.)

Luiz Felipe Peixoto <??????????????????> asks:
> I am a newbie, and I am looking for good tabacco stores
> in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.

 He may need luck.  I was only a visitor to his fair city,
but I found that with all the other pleasures to sample,
nobody seemed to pay much attention to tobacco.  There
weren't even any Cuban products (Americans were a very
small part of the tourist trade.) 

> Quote of the Week:
> 	"Fifteen seconds after Scorpion flashed, Ted reached down to
> 	the parabolic mirror beside him and took from behind it a
> 	smoldering Pall Mall. He drew in a long, pleasing draught of
> 	smoke.  He had lit his cigarette with an atomic bomb."
> 				John McPhee
> 				_The Curve of Binding Energy_
> 				(Note: The moderator of the Digest
> 				 cautions members against attempting
> 				 to light a pipe in this manner.)

 Years ago Radio Shack (for no reason I understand, but I don't
understand why they sell VCRs now) used to sell a parabolic mirror
with a clip to hold a cigarette at the focus.  I think it was
designed to use solar, not atomic, energy.  Is anything like
this available anywhere these days?  It seems like something
that could be very useful on sunny, windy days.

  - David Chesler (?????????????????????, etc.  http://world.std.com/~chesler)

[ Edmund Scientific, which is listed in the Guide, sells small
parabolic mirrors with a hole in the middle.  No clip, and they've
eliminated the politically-incorrect tobacco references, but it's the
same mirror. -S. ]

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From: "David J. Berkman" <????????????????????>
Subject: Greetings

Hi Steve,

Just received the latest issue of Pipe Digest and as usual it was a
pleasure reading about my fellow pipe enthusiasts and their shared love of
everything to do with pipes and smoking. I had a thought that I felt might
be worthy of your consideration. As I sat here typing this email, I looked
up from my desk and eyed an old photo hanging on the wall before me that I
took about thirty years ago of an old man smoking his pipe. He was a
land-watcher in the UP of Michigan living in a hut with no water, heat or
other comforts of civilization except for his pipe and tobacco. He was paid
a small sum to live on the land and watch it for some by far richer
landowner. Although living the life of a recluse, he still he was friendly
and loved his pipe and enjoyed talking to me and my companion about it for
quite awhile. It was a very memorable experience for me and the picture I
took that day continues to bring joy.

Since that day, I have continued to find pleasure exploring pipes and
tobacco, but more importantly, pipe smokers themselves. In my many travels
I visit pipe shops to speak with the owner and some of the customers
present. Must be my sociological training. 

The Pipe Digest does give glimpses of the smokers themselves in their
writing in addition to information about their shared interest. I would
like to suggest that perhaps you add a section that focuses on the
characters and personalities of pipe smokers. As we know they are a diverse
group and descriptions of them could fill volumes. How about sharing
written portraits and short descriptions of some of these types. Readers
may even want to portray themselves. I am sure no simple stereotype would
ever do, even if nonsmokers are often quick to describe us all with a
single stereotypical description. If you would like, I could start it off
with a few to get things moving.

Best regards,


David J. Berkman
Moraga, California


[Go for it, David! -S.]

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I am new to the Pipes digest. Last posting I heard of a couple of
people wanting to make tobacco pouches, I am interested in making a
pouch as well.  Any information that can help would be greatly
appreciated. (perhaps a posting??)  Excellent contributions.

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hello there my name is Blaine Arsenault.
 I have just discovered this fabulous site from pipes and tobacco,A
magazine that I can finally call my own.  I am a novice at this great
passtime,and have learned a lot from different articles i have read in
the magazine.  I have lots of questions I would like to ask some more
seasoned pipe folk,Im not sure if this is the proper place or not.
and am woundering if you could direct me to the right people.I am not
in any club per say,as where I live ther is no such clubs.would also
be interested in joining an online club if such exists I thank you for
your time and keep up the good work.  PS. please forgive my spelling I
am also a computer novice as well.  Thanks..  Mr.Blaine Allen

[ Certainly, Blaine!  The Digest, and some other online organizations
such as OoOPS and alt.smokers.pipes, would welcome you, I'm sure.
Also, two excellent sources of information for the beginning pipe
enthusiast are the alt.smokers.pipes FAQ and Steve Beaty's search
engine for the back issues. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hi Steve and all other pipe and cigar lovers. 

I am a new subscriber and really enjoy the digest.  I live in the
Smoky Mountains of Tennessee.  Unfortunately, the only place to
purchase pipes and tobacco is the Gatlin Burlier in Gatlinburg, until
recently.  There is now a new shop in Sevierville.  The proprietor is
knowledgeable and friendly.  His prices are very reasonable.  And, it
beats fighting the summer traffic in the Smokies.  Two to four hours
to travel twenty-five miles!!  Here's the info if anyone is

Ol' Smokies Tobacco
508 Dolly Parton Parkway
Sevierville, TN 37862

I look forward to each isssue.  Keep up the excellent work and good
smoking to all.

Kenneth W. Allen, Owner
Puffin Plantation Distributors
All Natural Cleaning & Personal Care Products

[ Dolly Parton Parkway? -S. ]

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From: ?????????????
Subject: pipes digest copy

Greetings!  Does any one know how to call or write for a catalog for 
Carey pipes?  Thanks,       Brad Krones
                            1215 E. Vista Del Cerro #1062
                            Tempe,  AZ  85281

[ You can call Carey's Smokeshop at 1-800-99-BRIAR. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????? (Michael R. Stanley)
Subject: Holmes&Watson Meerchaum pipes/Edgeworth Slices

   Steve and group;
I just wanted to respond to the question regarding Sherlock Holmes and
Watson in a Meerchaum pipe.I remember a couple of months ago,Carey's had a
set in their catalog.I don't remember the price but they looked nice.I
would guess they still carry the set.1-800-99BRIAR. Of course you did have
a very LOUD complaint about Carey's in the last PD,so take this
recommedation with a grain of salt.Although I've had many pleasant
experiences with Carey's myself.
Steve,you and Steve Beatty are to be congratulated on a fine job.Not many
could do what you do,thank you.
     On a different note,I picked up a couple of tins of Edgeworth slices
at a small shop in my area.(This place still had a number of tins of Escudo
as well)I've never had the tinned version of Edgeworth,I heard some
discussion about it at the last OPC swap.I kinda like the ready rubbed
version but finding it in decent condition is tough.Very dry in those
pouches.I just have too many other tobaccos open right now to open
another.Anyone have any info or an opinion on this tobacco?Sorry,but the
Escudo is all gone:)
             Mike Stanley

[ You can rehumidify slices the same as ready-rubbed tobacco.  Haven't
tried Edgeworth slices myself, so I can't say.  And I wonder where the
Escudo went? :-) -S. ]

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From: "MNR. CJ CONRADIE" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Some Basics about Smoking a Pipe

Hello Steve and Fellow pipe smokers

I am a student and enjoy smoking my pipe very much.   In college 
there is room for anything - and pipe-smoking is catching on again 
quickly.   However, I have some very basic questions about pipe 
smoking and will be grateful if anyone could answer them:

1)   When begin to smoke a pipe and it goes out after a while, it 
tastes very bitter (almost carbon-like) when I relight.   Could this 
be because of the already burnt-out tobacco laying on top? - which 
brings me to my second question - 
2)    when the pipe goes out and you want to relight; do you have to 
scrape out the smoked tobacco on top; or do you simply relight as it 
3) when inhaling - does one usually inhale through only the mouth 
(thus only smoke from the pipe), or through both the mouth and nose?
4) I would like someone to recommend some very commonly-available 
tobacco for me.    Previously I have enjoyed HOLLAND HOUSE AROMATIC 
and BORKIM RIFF LIGHT.   Also some Black Cavendishes.    I've heared 
some talk of Balkan Sobraine - is it good?

Thanks and enjoy each pipeful!!
Charl Conradie

[(1). More likely is that the remaining tobacco in the bottom of the
bowl has picked up some juice. (2) Try tamping it down, shaking out
any loose ash, tamping again, and relighting. (3) ??? (4) Balkan
Sobranie is a little heavier than the kinds of tobacco I'm currently
into, and rumor has it that it isn't what it used to be.  It's a heavy
Latakia blend that'll be vastly different than anything you've
listed. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????? (Stephen B Bray)
Subject: Porcelaine

Dear Steve,
     I would be interested in any information I could collect on porcelain
pipes. What struck me immediately about these pipes was the bowls. I do not
know if you have ever seen the 18th century Dutch tavern pipe that I
reproduce, but the bowls are identical as those found on the porcelain
pipes. Broken clays were a common in the 19th century. Once I recognises
that these bowls were identical, I then notice that they were fitted into
the pipes at such a angle that the bowl served only a functional purpose.
The heal on the bowl was no longer at the bottom, but facing outward. This
makes me think that the pipe originated from the original Dutch clay. Think
about it,  painters with little other source of income could take these
castings paint beautiful motifs on them, and then fit them with a stem.
There is really no better explanation for the design then this. There is
also something else that one must understand about the different names
given to different clays at this time. Heavily burnished clays were sold as
porcelain, as were the yellowish glazed pipes sold as imitation meerschaum.
Meerschaum pipes are not fired like clay, and  meerschaum could not stand
up against a 2000 F. firing, like a clay could. The idea that powdered
meerschaum was added to clay to produce an artificial meerschaum is
nonsense. These artificial meerschaum pipes were nothing more than slip
cast pipes with a light glaze or wax finish applied to them. One other
feature of meerschaum, is that it is buoyant in water. This is why there
was always a comparison between sea foam and meerschaum. To make a good
reproduction takes a lot of research, so there is no piece of information
to small not to be important. I would appreciate any help I can get with
this, so by all means please send me what you can. Thank you for the link
to my page. I do not think there is a better forum devoted to tobacciana
then than the digest, and I am proud to be part of it.
Your most humble and obedient servant, Stephen Bray Pipemaker

Olde World Fine Clays
249 South Street
Glace Bay, Nova Scotia
Canada B1A 1W6
(902) 849 1383

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From: "Bruce R. Beaman" <???????????????????>
Subject: Update on IRC #pipes channel

Hi, Steve!

Just got the latest PD; thanks for running my bit about pipesmokers' chat
on IRC. Since I sent you that email, the firehouse server has ceased to
exist, alas. We're letting everyone know they should connect to
wizlink.dal.net in order to join us on #pipes. Actually, any dal.net
server will do, but there are fewer lag or split problems if everyone uses
the same server.



[ One of these days, I _will_ get on the IRC channel! Promise!  And
thanks for all your help. -S. ]

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From: Don Berry <???????????????????>

Dear Steve,
Thanks for a great WEB page & for the Pipes Digest.  I have a question
though.  Why do you delete the e-mail addresses of contributors to the
Digest?  Many of the articles are of interest to me and I would like to
contact the person directly, with a question or comment.  Are the e-mail
addresses available elsewhere?  For instance several people have written
about having pre-smoked pipes available at low prices.  How do I contact
them?  NML Direct's prices are out of reach for me.


Don Berry

[ The email addresses are only deleted in the back issues on the Web
(and through mail.)  This is to protect members from being spammed
(sent unsolicited commercial email.)  It's been done in the past,
several times, and unfortunately will probably be done again.  If you
need to contact a specific member for whom you no longer have the
address, let me know the issue and article and I'll look it up for
you. -S. ]

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From: "Rob Devlin" <?????????????>
Subject: Overseas.....

Hello I am new to the list and was wondering if anyone could recommend any
places to get a pipe and Tobaccos from overseas.  I am an Army Helicopter
Pilot stationed in Korea.  If anyone has any favorite places I would love
to hear about them and any places on the internet wouls as be good.  At
least we do have access to that.  Thank You very much.....

Rob  :-)

Internet: ?????????????
Amprnet:  ?????????????????????????

[ There are quite a few retailers who will sell mail order; many are
listed in the Resource Guide.  Can anyone help Rob out?

And see below for another lead! -S. ]

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From: "The Shiffer's" <?????????????????????>
Subject: straight grain billiard pipes

Dear Mr. Beaty,
Yes, I would like my request for a blonde straight grain finish billiard
with a tapered stem to be posted to the Pipe's Digest emailing list. Thank

Carroll Shiffer          ?????????????????????

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

This is to inform you that I have written a scientific book (270 pages)
on narghile which could
possibly be the first one ever published in the world.

It will be out (in French) in Paris (France) within a couple of weeks.

I tackle this object from an anthropological 'art de vivre' angle,
shattering all stereotypes (a stupid artifact, Easterners destroying
their minds consuming drugs all day long in this "water pipe", etc.)

I am very new on the Net and I do not know how your group works but I
think that if all of you are pipes lovers, then you may be interested in
being informed of the existence of book which approaches universal
smoking in general and pipe, cigar and narghile smoking as an 'art de

Hoping to hear from you soon, 


Kamal Chaouachi (Paris, France)

Tel: +33 1 39 50 18 72
e-mail: ???????????????????


-> "Le Narguile" Subtit.: "Anthropologie d'un mode d'usage de drogues
-> Editions L'Harmattan (7, rue des Ecoles.  75005 Paris, France.)
Tel: +33 1 40 46 79 21; facsimile: +33 1 43 25 82 03 ), 272 pages.

        Here is a quick translation I have done (it may be poor or
faulty) of the summary that appears on the cover of the book:

       "An Anthropology of Narghile" subtit.:"Its Use and Soft Drugs"

        Narghile, as a soft drugs use mode, foremost tobacco, is more
akin to a gentle art of smoking (Dunhill) just the same way there are
"proper drinking" or "proper eating (cooking)" arts, and more generally,
to a real "art de vivre". Defined this way, it reveals its micro-social
cohesion function and hence, of prevention. Moreover, to those who
consider that smoking hours and hours in such a "quaintly" way cannot be
but like not less queer "idle" individuals to, the so-called "idlers" 
bring against a real rapture discourse that could be well legitimated by
this "right to lazziness (sloth)" (Droit a la paresse) politically
claimed as far back as the XIXth century by Paul Lafargue. Poetical
object, peace symbol, promising, its social use - an area extending from
China to Tunisia, and from Greece to South Africa - over four centuries,
still remains striking to any observer. Anthropology, history and
geography, not to forget the aesthetic universe of some "orientalist" 
artists, allow to give back life to this strangely ignored object. The
author definitely shatters some stereotypes: "Neither heroin is smoked
in it nor is the bubbling water inside boiling !" This syntetic book is
the very first one to tackle narghile from all these angles.

        The author was born in Tunisia, a country where, at the age of
25, he discovered the ubiquitous narghile which inspired him for the
initial project of an essay on it. He is post-graduated from the
Universities of Paris (X and VII) in Socio-Anthropology and Information
Science. He particularly worked for three years at UNESCO and within its
institutional framework. For this international organization, he has
managed educational projects in the field of drug use, abuse and its
prevention. Today, he goes on reflecting upon
these issues as an aspect of his research on narghile.


Finally, please note that I can send you, by surface mail, or type it
again on this computer, when I spare a bit of time, a translated version
of the Contents of the book (Headings,sub-headings,.)


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From: "Berggren, Edward P" <????????????????????????>
Subject: Air Cleaners, Black Scotch, and other miscellany

I was hoping there'd be a Pipes Digest this week and voila!  There it was   
waiting for me this morning.  A nice way to start the week.

Right before Christmas I was in my local Sav-On drug store and saw a   
Norelco air cleaner for $55.  I bought it thinking it would be a   
relatively inexpensive way to see if one of these things work.  My wife   
lets me smoke my pipe indoors, but we take cigars and cigarettes outside   
mainly because she had grown tired of how these made the curtains and   
clothes closets smell.  However, on these cold winter nights, there are   
times when I'd like to enjoy a cigar in my study in front of a warm fire.   
 Hence the purchase of the air cleaner.  The deal was I'd experiment with   
it and if it worked, great.  If it didn't (and she was to be the sole   
judge of that), then I'd haul the cigars outside again.

I closed up the sliding doors to the rest of the house, turned the   
cleaner onto high and also lit a scented candle.  When my wife came home   
later in the evening, she couldn't tell that I had spent almost an hour   
smoking a Don Diego.  I tried it a couple more times with the same   
result.  However, in all my initial attempts, I had the fire going.  One   
night last week it had warmed up some, so I didn't have a fire and we   
both noticed that the odor didn't dissipate as quickly.  In fact, after   
two hours we both could still smell it (earlier we couldn't smell it an   
hour afterward).  Our conclusion:  the fire helped clear some of the   
smoke up the flue.  So in my case, an air cleaner used in conjunction   
with the fireplace and a scented candle works well.  Removing any one of   
these doesn't work as well.

I'd be curious if others have tried using air cleaners and what results   
they've had.

Off and on here in the Digest are discussions regarding adult beverages   
to drink in conjunction with pipe and cigar smoking, so I'd like to   
report on a new single malt Scotch on the market.  It's called Loch Dhu   
and is billed as the black Scotch.  And it is indeed black.  Apparently   
the whisky is aged for 10 years in charred used bourbon casks and this   
causes it to turn black (the color kind of reminds me of molasses).  And   
let me tell you, it's an excellent drink. I bought a bottle (here in   
California it costs about $27) to take to a cast party for a play my wife   
was in and in an hour and a half it was GONE.  Scotch drinkers were in   
awe.  People who claimed to not like Scotch liked this one.  I recommend   
it heartily.

Bhayman (e-mail address name) asked about Sherlock Holmes/Dr. Watson   
meerschaum pipes.  I've seen these off and on in the Thompson catalog for   
(as I recall) about $60 for the set.



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From: ????????????????????? (Henry M Bruce)
Subject: Pipe question(s)

Steve -
        Great job with the Digest.   Keep up the good work.
        I am 56, have been a pipe smoker for 41 years.  I have 2 questions:
        1- Is the Kaywoodie pipe still made?  I recall that it was a fairly
high-quality American-made pipe, but I don't recall seeing one in
quite a while. 
        2- How does one deal with "chimney breath"?  I don't inhale and
never fill my pipe more that 1/3rd full, and usually take my "daily bowl"
around mid-morning, but even with lunch, several mid-afternoon snacks and a
couple sticks of Dentyne gum, my wife says I smell like a burned-out shed
when I come home.  It seems I have to go 30 hours or more without smoking
the pipe before the "chimney smell" goes completely away.  I'm using Ultra
Light Borkum Riff and a filtered Grabow, and the smoke is very cool &
pleasant with little aftertaste, but it just seems to linger forever.   Any
        Hank Bruce  

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From: "Bob Castiglione" <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #231 -- January 31, 1997

I always look forward to my Pipes Digest even though I am a cigar 
smoker primarily.  How about changing the name to Pipes and Cigars 
Digest? It has a swell ring to me!

I am pround to announce to all my fellow Digesters that I've opened a 
cigar bar in New York City.  It is called the Havana Tea Room and 
Cigar House.  We serve various coffees and a wide variety of English 
Teas in sachets on antique English china.  The menu includes 
sandwiches, finger foods, full tea food services, desserts etc.  

And, of course! we offer the finest handrolled cigars, humidors, 
antique cigar accoutrements.  The ambience is nostalgic 
Cuban/Caribbean with an English flavor.  The setting is all antique.

We are an elegant but casual place on the Upper East Side of 
Manhattan.  The location is:

 265 East 78th Street  (between 2nd and 3rd avenues right off 2nd)
New York, NY 

(212) 327-2012

By the way!! Pipe smokers are welcome too!!

Bob Castiglione

[ Good luck with the new venture, Bob, it sounds interesting! I've put
your listing in the Guide.  Re changing the Digest's name: I think we
discussed this very issue on the rise of the Great Cigar Wave, and
decided to keep it as is (but that cigar smokers would be welcome too!
:-) -S. ]

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From: (address incomplete)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Dear Steve,


"Meerschaum Pipes: I'm looking for Meerschaum Pipes with the carved
faces of Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Watson.  My husband saw them in a
store in Texas and we've been unable to find them since.  Has anyone
seen these pipes or know where I could buy them?  Thanks."

These pipes are available through Rob Denholtz at Fine Olde Briars.
His phone number is (914)462-0751.  You can also reach him by email at
????????????  The set is $100 and they are unsmoked.

For the group:

This question may be common knowledge, but I'll ask anyway.  What is
the significance of the number stamped on the side of a pipe?  Is it a
type of serial number or date?


Mark Osowski

[ The meaning of such a number depends on the make of the pipe;
usually encodes the year, model, etc. Entire books have been written
on date code nomenclature for Dunhills (hi, Bob! :-) -S. ]

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From: William Markiewicz <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #232 -- February 21, 1997

Could anybody tell me if there is any museum dedicated to pipes in Toronto
or nearby? I have few pipes that may have some value or not and I would like
to propose them as a donation. One: "Je suis le grand Jacob" is made of clay
and during the IIWW the factory in France was destroyed by German bombing. I
don't know how many remain in circulation. Another one which seems quite
ancient is sculpted, perhaps by some amateur, very interesting job. I also
have some beautiful ancient porcelain pipes, but slightly damaged, probably
still usable. I don't give them the exposure they deserve, I think, so I'm
looking for a new location for them. Thanks for any tip. 

William  ????????????????????

[ I have no such museum in the Guide, William, but that doesn't mean
that none exists! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I've been reading the digest for about six months now and felt it was about 
time to "delurk."

All this talk about good tobacconists has prompted me to mention one that I 
feel is outstanding here in the Colorado Springs area. Stag Tobacconist in the 
Citidel Mall is great!

From the beginning, Stag has help me along in my pipe education. Initially I 
went there to buy an occasional cigar. One day, almost on a whim, I asked the 
fellow on duty that how to get started smoking a pipe. He responded by 
outfitting me with a corncob, a pipe tool, some cleaners, and a 2 ounce bag of 
English house blend. He then packed a bowl to show me how to do it. Later that 
day I lit the prepacked bowl and enjoyed about 45 minutes of bliss. The rest 
is history.

Since then I've bought numerous pipes and tins of  tobacco (McClelland and 
Dunhill) from them, and have been dissatisfied only once. I bought a 
Stanwell, and the thing soured immediately; it also scorched even though I was 
very careful smoking it. They made it right, however. When I took it back and 
showed it to the guy I bought it from he said "So you don't like it? Well then 
don't keep it!" and with a grin he tossed it over his shoulder to a corner. "Go
select another pipe."

So if you ever have the chance, go visit Stag. They have a great selection of 
tobaccos (Dunhill, McClelland and MacBarens in tins, plus Stokkeby (sp?) in 
bulk) and pipes.

Also, If I were to give awards for mail order service, I'd have a three way 
tie for first place. Cornell & Diehl, PCCA, and Mark Tinsky. Have all been a 
joy to work with, but that's another story.


Bradley Morehouse 

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From: "Jeremy Martinson" <????????????????????????????>
Subject: change of address, and some other stuff

Dear Steve

I just left my new address on the website, I hope you got it OK. It 
doesn't matter too much if it takes a while to update my details; 
I've arranged for my old mail to get forwarded to me.

As you can see from the new address, I've made it across the 
Atlantic, and I've swapped the ivy-clad colleges of Oxford for the 
snow-clad campus of Pitt (although it's not actually snowing now) for 
a couple of years. Now I'll experience at first hand the joys and 
frustrations of smoking a pipe in the USA. 

I only brought four of my pipes with me: the rest are safely stowed
away in the attic in Oxford (pipe-thieves note: the house *is*
occupied). As well as saving space on the journey over, this gives
me a golden opportunity to buy more while I'm here. To that end, I've 
just visited one of the few proper pipe stores in Pittsburgh: it has  
a partial mention in the Resource Guide, but here's the full address:

Continental Smoke Shop
2210 Murray Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15217

(412) 422-4444

It's in the Squirrel Hill neighbourhood, and is well worth a visit
if you're in town. Ivan, the owner, has a good range of pipes,
cigars and loose tobaccos (but not many tins - an active decision on
his part, he says) and certainly knows his subject. In his store
last weekend I bought a Savinelli Octavia and a Castello sandblast
with a polished rim. They both smoke excellently - once you take the
balsa wood filters out :-) and were very reasonably priced. Ivan
tends to stock good quality, mid-range pipes that will sell rather
than expensive display items that won't (if you want that in
Pittsburgh, go to Poor Richard's in Station Square). To fill my
pipes, I bought three of his loose blends: Zino's blend (a scottish
mixture despite the Italianite name), Knottingham Forest (a flake)
and No 10 Downing Street (heavy on the Latakia and not the sort of
thing I imagine the current occupant of No 10 smoking at all). The
Knottingham Forest is particularly good, and Ivan gave me some good
advice on rubbing it out. Don't. I just roll the flake strands into
a little ball and drop them into the bowls, then press them down. It
works a treat, and I wish I'd known that when I used to spend ages
rubbing out my Bengal Slices. 

The other thing I've done since I got here is to play around with 
IRC. I've hopped into the #pipes room a couple of times and it's 
great fun. My nickname is DrOlaf; it's too convoluted to explain why. 
If you get to get back on there again, I may bump into you...

That's my news for now. So far in Pittsburgh I know of the 
Continental, Poor Richard's and Bloom's Cigar Camp as the quality 
smokeshops to visit (and I do buy stuff in Poor Richard's despite my 
comments above): does anyone know of any more I can try?

best wishes

Jeremy Martinson

Dr Jeremy J. Martinson      * University of Pittsburgh
phone: (412) 624-3018       * Dept Human Genetics
  fax: (412) 624-3020       * Graduate School of Public Health
                            * 130 DeSoto St
                            * Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
++++++++++++++  email: ????????????????????????????  ++++++++++++++++

[ Thanks for the update on the address, Jeremy, and best of luck at
Pitt!  And, as promised earlier, I'll get on the IRC channel one of
these days... -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Sydney Tobacconists?

Dear Steve,

Just received my second issue of Pipes Digest, and so far I am impressed.
As I have only recently taken up pipe smoking, I know very little about it,
but am very keen to expand my horizons.  Unfortunately, their are no good
tobacconists in my home city of Canberra (Australia).  I travel to Sydney
fairly often, however, so if anyone can recommend any good pipe shops in
that city, I would be extremely grateful.

Many thanks,

Simon Mitchell
Greg Mitchell                       ??????????????????????

[ For some reason, the Guide doesn't list _any_ tobacconists in
Australia!  We'll have to count on the membership for this one. -S. ] 

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From: Bozena&Michael <???????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe $ cigar smoking cartoons

My name is Michael V.Tkaczyk and I am a cartoonist and a pipe
I would like to invite you to visit my site at:
http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/bozena/p&c.htm where you can find 
cartoons about pipe & cigar smoking.
If you like my artwork please contact me. I would be happy to discuss
the opportunity to work for you.
I am looking forward to hearing from you. I can be reached at
(403)423-0943 or via email.

Best regards,
Michael V.Tkaczyk

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From: "brian forrest" <????????????????????????>
Subject: new membership

just received your e-mail stating that l was a member.
l will wear the badge with honor and pride,
being in canada it is a little hard to find the resourses that you 
have .
l live in hamilton, ontario [where??] this may help about 50 miles from
toronto. l should have said about 80 kilometers.

			     		 thanks for the membership,
						 brian forrest.

[ Read on for some new Ontarian (right word?) additions to the
Resource Guide! -S. ]

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From: Roy Burnham <??????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #232 -- February 21, 1997

Hi Steves

Perhaps I could ask you to add a local pipemaker to your resource list.
I enjoy their products and have found they perform an excellent repair 

Brigham Enterprises Inc
25 Ripley Ave
M6S 3P2

(800) 668-0628 (Anne ext. 28)

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From: ???????????????????????????
Subject: Cuban pipe tobacco tasting like Montecristos

Re: Cuban pipe tobacco tasting like Montecristos - A friend brought me
back some Cuban pipe tobacco from Cuba - It was cut short like
cigarette tobacco and quite dry. It tasted very mild and only slighty
like a Cuban cigar. Not bad but quite one dimensional.  cheers, Ian
Also - Steve, Can you add my shop to your guide -Customs House Cigars,
126 Queen St. Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario Canada - we carry Brigham,
SC, Peterson, Butz-Choquin, and I hope to have some Julius Vesz pipes
which are handmade in Toronto. thanks

[ Added your shop to the Guide.  And thanks for the note! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Pipes Digest is not the greatest thing since sliced bread, its
better!!!  Its always a pleasant surprise to come home from an insane
day at work and find a new issue of the digest to download and spend
some time with.  For several years, I've been reluctant to purchase a
new Dunhill pipe.  In the early 90's the quality of Dunhill seemd to
slip and I felt they just weren't worth the investment.  Recently,
however, I purchased a new Shilling, and was so happy with it, I
bought another.  This is the best pipe Dunhill has produced in years
and I heartily endorse them.  Like everything else Dunhill, however,
they ain't cheap, but for me, at least, they are both pleasure and
investment.  Regis McCafferty, Founder & Past President, Ohio Pipe

[ Regis, thanks for the good word, and we keep hearing many great
things from, and about, the OPC too! -S. ]

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From: ????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

J.M. Barrie (1860-1937) wrote "Peter Pan," was an avid pipe smoker, a
very funny guy, and penned "My Lady Nicotine" in the '20s. It is out
of print as a single volume, and pretty scarce on the used book
market. I watched for it online for several months without success,
and then in a burst of inspiration -- I checked it out of the library.

It is a series of short story chapters loosely connected by the
appearance of the same five or so smoking buddies and the ever-present
Arcadia Mixture, a tobacco so sublime as to be life changing. (The
protagonist rarely shares it with others for fear they will prove
unworthy of it!)

The vignettes are a mix of Lewis Carroll and the Marx
Brothers. Several are pure farce and could have gone directly from the
page to a vaudeville stage. You know, mistaken identity gags, that
sort of thing. Lucille Ball could have done them after a single
reading. Other chapters take place almost entirely in the mind, like
"Gilray's Flower-Pot" in which the writer agonizes over Gilray's

My favorite chapter is "House-Boat Arcadia" in which the disgruntled
smoking buddies 'enjoy' a holiday on water. They have trouble cooking
for themselves, and so decide to hire a houseboy:

"The told us at the Ferry Hotel that boys were rather difficult to get
in Cookham; but we instituted a vigorous house-to-house search, and at
last we ran a boy to earth and carried him off."

The boy proves troublesome however, as he must be ferried to the boat
each morning:

"Wet or fine, calm or rough, 7 a.m found the boy on the tow-path
hallooing. No sooner were we asleep than the dewy morn was made
hideous by the boy. Lying in bed with the blankets over our heads to
deaden his cries, his fresh, lusty young voice pierced the woodwork,
blankets, sheets, everything. 'Ya-ho, ahoy, ya-ho, aho, ahoy!' So he
kept it up. What followed may easily be guessed. We all lay as silent
as the grave, each waiting for some one else to rise and bring the
impatient lad across. At last the stillness would be broken by some
one's yelling out what he would do for that boy. A second would mutter
horribly in his sleep; a third would make himself a favourite for the
moment by shouting through the wooden partition that it was the
fifth's turn this morning. The fifth would tell us where he would see
the boy before he went across for him. Then there would be silence

Try it for several good vintage pipe-related belly laughs. The edition
I read was 220 pages. ISBN 0-404-08782-5.

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From: Michael George <?????????????????????>
Subject: Freedom Smoking Pipe

Hello all!

I was poking around on the web and I found the page for The Freedom
Smoking Pipe.  It is a very unusual design, and I was curious if
anyone had tried this type of pipe.  At ~$15, I figure someone might
have just given it a shot...

-Michael George

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From: "Kenneth R. Seguin" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: PD Submission

Anyone care to attempt to describe the differences in the prominent virginia
tobaccos? Have been tempted to try MacBarrens dark twist and Three Nuns, but
PCCA's Noel is so good, am hesitant to stray.

Are MacBarrens dark twist and Three Nuns best sellared for a while or are they
pre-aged and ready to be enjoyed?

Anyone care to nominate their favorite Virginia tobacco(s)?

I love PCCA's Noel (partial to 1995 Red Label). A real treat every time.

And for perhaps some interesting but subjective discussion, which briars do you
think best present rich Virginias to the palate? Alternatively,  is there a
difference, so long as you are smoking quality briar?

The reason I ask is that I've read on usenet that Dunhill makes
English tobaccos taste a couple notches better than in Italian briar.

I am too inexperienced to have a knowledgeable opinion. Nevertheless, FWIW, I
favor Noel in a Savinelli Autograph. Cavendish (my regular/save the Noel smoke)
seems equally enjoyable in Italian or Peterson briar.

All info and opinions appreciated. Preferences are subjective, but it will be
interesting to see if there are any commonalities in our preferences.

Find an opinion and send out a smoke signal.

- Ken

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From: "Kenneth R. Seguin" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Another PD Submission

Hi All.

What are the taste and manufacturing differences between American and British
Cavendish tobaccos?

Is Lane's half toasted/half untoasted Cavendish American or British?

Anyone care to mention their favorite American or British Cavendish?



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From: "Kenneth R. Seguin" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Yet Another PD Submission


Might anyone know the differences in briar curing among those pipe
manufacturers which oil cure thier briar?

Am particularly interested in Petersons briar curing method should
anyone know a bit about it. An interesting and appealing
chaeracteristic of Peterson briar is the pronounced, slighly raised
grain on their smooth pipes. I'm told this is due to steam being
applied to the carved pipes, which raises part of the grain. Does this
imply oil curing of the briar?

Thanks to all for their participation in this forum.

- Ken

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From: "Jason J. Sarsany" <???????????????????>

Hello everyone,
I am a recent college graduate and a relatively young pipe smoker.  I
finally came around and broke out my briar in front of my family.  I was
nervous and got a few snickers because I am always the one joking around.
Then they got a whiff of the aromatic I was puffing on and all were in
acceptance of my habit.  It turns out that both of my grandfathers smoked
pipes and both of my parents have fond memories of them puffing on their

My mom mentioned something about how my grandfather had a box full of
everything he needed to smoke his pipe, including the pipe itself.  She
told me he claimed it kept everything moist.  I realize this is a humidor
of some sort.  So this raised the question as to why he would keep his
pipe in a humidor.  She approximated it size and it seems larger and
awkwardly shaped to be built as a humidor, so it could have been something
he converted.  My question is why would he put his pipe in a humidor?
Like I said before, I am relatively new to this hobby (obsession) and was
hoping someone could shed some light on this mystery.  My grandfather
passed away in 1979 and I am currently searching our family tree.  I have
spent a lot of time on my grandparents to try to understand them as
people, so I have quite a bit of interest in learning more about this .

One more thing is that I recently graduated and am using an unauthorized
account which my shut off any day.  I hope I hear from you soon and I hope
this doesn't cause any problems with the digest Steve.

					Jason J. Sarsany

[ No problems, though please send us a change of address as soon as
you have a stable account! -S. ]

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Subject: posting from pipes page

First, thanks for the advice on Kirsten pipes.  I have one ordered.  Now
that I have found a better pipe, I would like a better tobacco.  I like the
black cavendish from my local tobacconist, but I would like more flavor.
I don't want more bite, but rather more of the same, a stronger cavendish
which is not flavored with vanilla or cherry or anything else along those
lines.  Any suggestions on what to try?
-- Alan

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Philly Update

Hi Steve,
It has been months since I've had time to sit down and bring readers of the
digest up to date on events in Philadelphia. I continue to enjoy the digest
and thank you for it. Our fledgling Philadelphia Pipe Club has made good
progress since I announced its formation in September. After a very small and
shakey first meeting, we decided to shoot for every-other month. We were
fortunate to find a great location, the back room of Chris's Jazz Cafe 1421
Sansom St and we availed ourselves of some help from the mailing lists of
Nikos Levin and Craig Tarler. Lo and behold we now have about 25 dues paying
members, have decided to meet every month (the third Wednesday, 7:30 PM) and
have officially adopted the name: The Christopher Morley Pipe Club. Meetings
usually have a theme. In January we had a tasting provided by Corneil&Diehl,
in February we all brought in what pipe literature we could, our March
meeting requires bringing an old tin of any tobacco you didn't like and have
laying around, while in April we will have a visit from Bob Waughtel, a
tobaccanist, pipe carver etc from Harrisburg. So anyone in the Philadelphia
area who has not heard of us or hesitated to join us is very welcome. 

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From: ?????????????????????????? (Dr Antonio Figueras)
Subject: Info on Pipe Tobacco


I am a pipe smoker from Spain. Recently a friend of mine gave me several
samples of Tinderbox blends. These are the following: Golden treasures,
Connoiseur, Marzipan, Cavendish and Royal Court. I like some of them
specially Golden tresures. I have send them several e mails without any

I have written to several Tinderbox shops with no answer and I have even
asked RC hamlin for PCCA. He answered that he had no idea on how to get
these blends.

Do you have any suggestions? May be you have tried these blends. the one
that I like is called Golden treasures. If you have an alternative blend
from other company, please let me know.

Sorry for disturbing you and thank you in advance.

Best regards.

Dr Antonio Figueras
Instituto Investigaciones Marinas. CSIC.
Pathology of Marine Organisms
Eduardo Cabello 6
36208 Vigo

Phone 34 86 23 19 30
FAX 34 86 29 27 62
e mail: ?????????????????

[ Connoisseur _might_ be available from the Connoisseur Smoke Shop,
which is listed in the Resource Guide.  Or it might be something
completely different. -S. ]

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From: Shigeho Okada <???????????????????????????>
Subject: [Summary] Radford (& Exclusiv) pipe tobaccos


Please find "enclosed" a summary post regarding Radford pipe
tobaccos.  I hope you don't mind the MIME format of this mail.

As I'm also a member of the Ohio Pipe Collectors, I'm copying this
to Bill Unger, the OPC Secretary/Editor, for a possible submission
to the Club's newsletter.

I'll ask Bill to edit it freely, since it contains some PD-specific
descriptions.  I hope you don't mind a similar article appearing in
the coming issue (or one of the future issues) of the OPC
newsletter.  (I'm a little bit concerned about possible copyright

Best regards,

Shigeho Okada (???????????????????????????)


Hello, Steve and fellow smokers,

This is (despite its length :-) a summary post regarding my question
in the PD #230 about one of the several seemingly bizzare blends we
get in Japan, viz. "Sunday's Fantasy" of Thomas Radford.

Before anything, I'd like to thank the three pipe smoking gentlemen,
Messrs Bob Holmes of Canada, Chris Richardson of England and William
Serad of the States, all of whom took the trouble to respond
directly to me.  Without the input and help from these kind PD
subscribers, it wouldn't have been possible to collect the following
facts and information.

Upon learning that Gawith, Hoggarth & Co. Ltd. of Kendal, England is
the UK distributor of the Radford tobaccos, I mailed an inquiry to
them.  A reply signed by a Mr J R Gawith confirmed that they are the
"sole UK Importer" for all tobaccos and snuffs manufactured by the
Alois Poeschl, a German tobacco manufacturer (needless to say, GH
manufactures their own pipe tobaccos and snuffs).  Mr Gawith was
also so kind to forward my inquiry to the Alois Poeschl.

Later, I heard from the Alois Poeschl, located in Landshut, Bavaria,
Germany.  According to the letter (with the letterhead "Founded
1902" and the ISO 9001 certificate mark) signed by a Mr Lindinger,
they are indeed the (current?) manufacturer of "Radford and Thomas
Radford brands", and they also have their own "Exclusiv" line of
blends.  Enclosed was a list of their pipe tobacco products.

Regarding the person after whom the brand is named, the card
included in the tin of "Sunday's Fantasy" gives this description
(thanks to Bob Holmes -- apparently this is typeset in Germany, as
the beginning double quotation mark is in German "upside down"

  Thomas Radford (1610-1675) was known in London for his clay pipes,
  but, in his lifetime he was celebrated and respected by his
  suppliers and customers for the stringent standard he set for his
  tobacco mixtures, true to his motto "Be satisfied with only the

As the enclosed list describes each blend by manufacturer's own
words (which apparently differ from those found in the latest AITS
Tobacco Index at the "Pipe and Pouch" Web site), I would like to
take the liberty of quoting it here for your reference:

o RADFORD's Pipe Tobaccos

RADFORD's Old Scotch: A particularly light and mild mixture.
  Contains sweet Virginia, aromatic Burley and doubly fermented
  Black Cavendish.  With old Scotch whisky to round off the taste.
  Wild cut.  Approved by members of the Pipe Club of London.
  Available in 50g sealed pouch, 100g vacuum tins and 200g economy

RADFORD's Wild Honey: A tobacco without Latakia, partly pressed and
  loosened again to achieve good burning properties and a cool
  smoke.  Wild cut.  Approved by members of the Pipe Club of London.
  Available in 50g sealed pouch, 100g vacuum tins and 200g economy

RADFORD's Nut & Berry: Fully matured Virginia and doubly fermented
  Black Cavendish.  A mellow and characteristic taste of ripe nuts
  and fruity forest berries.  Wild Cut.  Approved by members of the
  Pipe Club of London.  Available in 50g sealed pouch, 100g vacuum
  tins and 200g economy tin.

RADFORD's Wild Cavendish: A pressed and doubly fermented Cavendish
  with a mellow, sweet and fruity touch of Virginia, Oriental
  tobacco, some Latakia and Burley.  Wild Cut.  Approved by members
  of the Pipe Club of London.  Available in 50g sealed pouch, 100g
  vacuum tins.

RADFORD's Black Maple: A mixture of doubly fermented Black Cavendish
  loosened to achieve good burning properties.  Mild taste with a
  fragrant sweet aroma.  Wild Cut.  Approved by members of the Pipe
  Club of London.  Available in 50g sealed pouch, 100g vacuum tin
  and 200g economy tin.

RADFORD's Rum Royal: An enjoyment with the unmistakable aroma of the
  Caribbean.  Nutty aromatic Burleys, mildly sweet Virginias and
  tobaccos from the best plantations of the world have been refined
  with genuine Jamaican rum.

THOMAS RADFORD Sunday's Fantasy: Best, hand-blended Virginia tobacco
  and high premium, doubly fermented Black Cavendish.  The unusual
  combination of Granulate and Wild-cut are responsible for the
  loose mixture.  Natural flavours and extracts round off the
  tobacco to an extra mild and harmonious taste experience.
  Luxury-quality in a luxury package.  Available in 100g vacuum tin.

THOMAS RADFORD Daily Dream: A typical premium tobacco with yellowy
  gold extra mild Black Virginias and selected aromatic tobaccos
  such as Burleys and Orientals.  Three different cuts -- double cut
  loose tobacco dice, shredded leaf particles and a loosened crimp
  cut give a unique mixture with a modestly aromatic taste.  A pipe
  tobacco of the first order.

THOMAS RADFORD Classic Port: A cleverly harmonised composition of
  selected Virginia and Burley tobaccos, the best tobacco leaves are 
  saturated by hand in vintage port of the finest year.  This is the
  reason for the unique soft aroma and the wonderful bouquet of port 
  wine.  Wild cut does justice to the character of the individual
  tobaccos.  The tobacco tones are gold, reddish brown and black.
  An enjoyment for all senses.

o EXCLUSIV Pipe Tobaccos

EXCLUSIV Cavendish: Specially intended for young pipe smokers who
  appreciate the unique flavour of this tobacco and make it their
  constant companion.  Mild to the tongue.  Available in 50g sealed
  pouch and 200g economy tin.

EXCLUSIV Brandy & Virginia: Fully matured sweet US Virginia and
  Burley, classic Oriental and spicy tobaccos are refined with
  mature Brandy.  Light, mild and pleasant taste.  Mild to the
  tongue.  Available in 50g sealed pouch and 200g economy tin.

EXCLUSIV President: Small Cut American type mixture.  Very light.
  The international[sic] narrow cut ensures superior burning
  qualities but yet a cool and aromatic pleasure to smoke.  Mild to
  the tongue.  Available in 50g sealed pouch.

EXCLUSIV Plum & Rum: Doubly fermented.  Fruity and fresh sweet
  flavour through the addition of Jamaica[sic] rum and natural plum
  extract.  Excellent burning quality.  Blended in Danemark[sic].
  Mild to the tongue.  Available in 50g and 100g vacuum tins and
  200g economy tin.

EXCLUSIV Royal: Original, granulated in English style.  The natural
  mildness of Virginia and Oriental tobaccos is enhanced by
  granulating.  A very fragrant flavour.  Mild to the tongue.
  Available in 50g sealed pouch, 50g and 100g vacuum tins and the
  200g economy tin.

EXCLUSIV Sherry & Cherry: A highly aromatic mixture of singular
  origin.  Noble Spanish sherry and the flavour of ripe cherries
  bring out the taste.  Mild to the tongue.  A leader of its kind.
  Available in 50g sealed pouch, 50g and 100g vacuum tins and the
  200g economy tin.

EXCLUSIV First Class: Selected mixture of fully matured Virginia and
  specially mild Burley.  Rounded off with precious flavoured
  tobaccos.  A masculine Cavendish of international repute.  Mild to
  the tongue.  Available in 50g and 100g vacuum tins.

EXCLUSIV Prime Mixture with Armagnac: This specially granulated
  blend owes its pleasant taste to flavoured tobaccos such as
  genuine Perique, dark fired Virginia and Burley, Carolina Virginia
  and precious Oriental tobaccos of world renown.  Enriched with old
  French armagnac.  Mild to the tongue.  Our top brand!  Available
  in 50g vacuum tin.

EXCLUSIV Special with Whisky: Exquisite mixture as a ready cut
  English type with a mild and full taste.  Rounded off with
  original Scotch Whisky.  Mild to the tongue.  Available in 50g and
  100g vacuum tins.

EXCLUSIV Wild Mango: Contains mild, doubly fermented black tobacco
  and pressed Cavendish.  The fruity and fresh flavour of exotic
  Mango fruits, rounded off with a mellow caramel-note, bring out
  the taste.  Available in 50g sealed pouch and 200g economy tin.

EXCLUSIV Mild Vanilla: A mild composition of rounded sweet Virginia
  tobaccos well harmonised with natural vanilla flavour.  A tobacco
  which is especially flavoured for the expert and enthusiast liking
  a harmonic, aromatic and soft composition.  Characteristic: mild
  to the tongue.

EXCLUSIV Sweet Coconut: A yellowy brown mixture of Virginias,
  Orientals and Burleys.  With genuine Bourbon vanilla and coconut.
  Light sweet-aromatic taste.  A cut with a width suitable for
  giving a cool burn in the pipe.  Recommended for problem-free pipe
  filling properties, suitable for beginners and experts.
  Characteristic: mild to the tongue.

EXCLUSIV Brandy & Virginia: Distinctive fine flavour.  Sweet
  American Virginias and Burleys, classical Orientals and selected
  aromatic tobaccos refined with an old matured Brandy.
  Characteristic: mild to the tongue.

I hope this wraps it up for now.  The whole process of finding out
about a particular pipe tobacco blend, including but not limited to
exchanging e-mails and conventional (snail) mails, has been very
much enjoyable; their input and gentlemanly responses were much more
than I could have expected.  I'd like to thank again everyone
involved for their most sincere cooperations and courtesy.

Of all the blends listed above, so far I have only been able to
locate 50g flat tins of "Sunday's Fantasy" in Japan.  It will
certainly be my pleasure to hear comments on other Radford and
"Exclusiv" blends.

Shigeho Okada @ Tokyo, Japan

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From: Jesper Klith <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Anthropological research

 In PD no. 226 and 227 I conducted a (sort of) anthropoligical research.
First, let me repeat the questions:
 I hope you gentlemen reading this will help me with my research by
answering 3 simple questions:

1) In which side of your mouth do you usually carry your pipe?
2) Are you lefthanded or righthanded?
    (LEFT or RIGHT)
3) To which side do you 'carry' as your tailor probably asked you at
your first visit to him.
    (LEFT or RIGHT)

(Question 3 was referring to people's more 'personal parts' which I had
to add in PD 227 since several of the readers didn't understand the
question /Jesper)
The answers can be very short like this (my data) LEFT-RIGHT-LEFT. Jokes
about straight and bent stems etc. will not be appreciated!!
 I received 27 adequate answers plus a lot of funny comments. The result

R-R-R: 8 / L-L-L: 6
R-R-L: 6 / L-L-R: 0
R-L-R: 0 / L-R-L: 5
L-R-R: 2 / R-L-L: 0

The RRR and LLL group shows no significant difference which didn't
surprise me. However, concerning the rest of the answers I would have
thought that they would somehow have shown the same tendences just as a
'reflection' making  the RRL/LLR and RLR/LRL groups more or less the
same size but this obviously isn't the case.

I also wonder what happened with the M-x-x people. I have seen several
pipe smokers on the street (it's still OK to smoke in public in Denmark)
who carried the pipe in the middle of the mouth but I couldn't make
myself ask them about their more 'personal' details.

I have difficulties making a useful conclusion to my research (goodbye
Nobel Price!) but if any of the more learned readers can make use of the
results it's OK with me - but remember to mention PD as source.

 Sincerely, Jesper Klith, Denmark

PS: All answers have been dealt with in total discretion and the answers
are now deleted. Thank you, Gentlemen!

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From: ???????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

08 Mar 97

Re: NY Pipe Club Show in Newark NJ this date

Having attended my very first pipe show this morning, I thought I
would share my experience with any of you that have not been to a show
yet yourselves.

To begin with, I can now say wholeheartedly that anyone who loves pipe
smoking must attend at least one pipe show to get an appreciation of
the wide range of people in the group known as pipe smokers.

Every type of human being from all walks of life can be seen milling
about the display table floor; some taking a shy approach watching at
a distance, while others are frantically prodding, poking and turning
any and all bowls in their reach.  Despite the technique used, one can
be sure these people are all after the same goal..."the" pipe.  ( I
did see one rogue cigar smoker :-)

Immediately, I was stricken with the dizzying array of pipes
available....nearly every shape,size and make imaginable.  Believe me
when I tell you that making a choice is not all that easy when you are
a beginner as I am.  Thankfully, the vendors couldn't be a nicer or
friendlier group of gents (and ladies).  They were all very happy to
answer any questions about grading and quality, and offered plenty of
really informative bits about the history of shapes and finishes.  I
do a lot of reading here, and elsewhere on the net, and I still
learned an awful lot.

The only downside for me, was the lack of availability of pipe smoking
"dottle".  The pipe cleaners, pouch buttons, tampers, roll-ups,
reamers, etc..  Somebody could stand to make a nice penny setting up a
table devoted to the little stuff...afterall, if you don't have the
budget for buying wood during your visit, another tamper or pouch
would be an easy score.  Also curiously lacking to me was what I
expected to be a vast array of tobacco, or any manufacturer
representation at all.  There were a few tins here and there, but not
what I expected.  I must add that PCCA proved to be the dominant force
in tobacco, with a large quantitiy of its specialty blends from
McClelland (worked for me).  It wasn't so awfull, as I wound up with a
few extra pieces of wood tagging along on the way out that would not
have been there had I spent my budget on tins :-).

Enough rambling.  Suffice it to say that you really must go to one of
these shows and meet everybody and see the wares----bring your

Thanks to everyone at the show, I had a great time!

Chris Esser
mailto : ???????????????????????????
http://members.aol.com/krstnpiper/ <Kirsten pics and info>

[ I met Chris, as well as Rob Denholz, Bob Hamlin, Mark Tinsky, Avram
Malkin, and a bunch of the other PD regulars at the show.  Walked away
with a short Sasieni sandblast billiard, a large Ben Wade with a burn
on the stem (removed with 30 minutes' buffing), a huge bulldog of
unknown make, and a wall-mounted iron match safe from the late 19th
century.  Come to think of it, you're right, Chris -- not too many
varieties of tobak or accessories. Though plenty of pipe stands and

And, as always, it was a pleasure meeting you all in person! -S. ]

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #233 -- March 9, 1997
  2. Subject: Personal experience article submission
  3. Subject: Pipes Digest submittal
  4. Subject: Zippo lighters
  5. Subject: posting from pipes page
  6. Subject: pipe burning hot
  7. Subject: PD 232: Rio, parabolic mirrors
  8. Subject: Greetings
  9. Subject: posting from pipes page
  10. Subject: posting from pipes page
  11. Subject: posting from pipes page
  12. Subject: pipes digest copy
  13. Subject: Holmes&Watson Meerchaum pipes/Edgeworth Slices
  14. Subject: Some Basics about Smoking a Pipe
  15. Subject: Porcelaine
  16. Subject: Update on IRC #pipes channel
  17. Subject: E-MAIL ADDRESSES
  18. Subject: Overseas.....
  19. Subject: straight grain billiard pipes
  20. Subject: posting from pipes page
  21. Subject: Air Cleaners, Black Scotch, and other miscellany
  22. Subject: Pipe question(s)
  23. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #231 -- January 31, 1997
  24. Subject: posting from pipes page
  25. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #232 -- February 21, 1997
  26. Subject: posting from pipes page
  27. Subject: change of address, and some other stuff
  28. Subject: Sydney Tobacconists?
  29. Subject: Pipe $ cigar smoking cartoons
  30. Subject: new membership
  31. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #232 -- February 21, 1997
  32. Subject: Cuban pipe tobacco tasting like Montecristos
  33. Subject: posting from pipes page
  34. Subject: posting from pipes page
  35. Subject: Freedom Smoking Pipe
  36. Subject: PD Submission
  37. Subject: Another PD Submission
  38. Subject: Yet Another PD Submission
  39. Subject: posting from pipes page
  40. Subject: Philly Update
  41. Subject: Info on Pipe Tobacco
  42. Subject: [Summary] Radford (& Exclusiv) pipe tobaccos
  43. Subject: Anthropological research
  44. Subject: posting from pipes page
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