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Subject: Pipes Digest #234 -- April 1, 1997

		  Pipes Digest #234 -- April 1, 1997
   Copyright (C) 1997 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 2841

Welcome to new members:

	Flattop
	Axel Behrends
	Jim Willman
	Collie M. Trant M.D.
	Jason Finney
	Tami Clifford
	Hannu Glad
	Larry Justice
	Joe Mcparland
	Angel L. Guisado Cuellar
	Galtier
	Cesare Derose Jr.
	Alan Drury
	Peter J. Meyer
	David M Adams
	Antonio Figueras
	Yori Nelken
	Curtis T. Lovelace
	Henrik Ellstrom
	Charles B. Wahlstrom
	Robert A. Engl
	Steven Friedlander
	Richard Krakowksi
	Douglas T. Owens
	John Alexander
	Peter Louw
	Vernon W. Robinson
	Robert F. Mccarthy
	Marvin Christopher Childress
	Robert Baker
	Homam Owainati
	Kurt Trampel
	Keith O'Connor
	Jerry Glantz
	Jerry Knowles
	Kim Chang-su
	Craig McElwee
	Dirk Brill
	Ray Mutzel
	Jonathan Stein
	Bob Holland
	Martin Brueckel
	Andreas Rinofner
	J. Garamone
	Richwolf
	Aguggia Marco
	Robert E. Grosz
	Allen Tusi
	Kristian Corkhill
	Charles L. Hernandez
	Joan Meyer
	Dan Mason
	Michael Lozano
	R. Skylar Rupp
	Mike Meador
	Tom Mcclain
	Scott A. Magnuson
	William Cloutier
	John T. Ward, M. D.
	Jeffrey Todd Hastings
	Larry M. Allis
	Ricardo Aguasca
	Martin C. Koks
	Ivy K. Ryan
	Andrew Gnoza
	Bronco Mccoy
	David Freedman
	David Chambers
	Alanc. Waring
	Scott L. Gasswint
	Lannes Johnson
	Jeffrey R Scott
	Fluto Shinzawa
	Steven Emery
	Allan Imler
	Ken Gaines
	Paul Wantz
	John Varner
	Barney L. Narcho
	David Byers
	Tom Padilla
	Jon M. Buscall
	John W. Mendell
	Tim Lang
	Dustin N Cook
	Kent Kingston
	Iordanis Haralampidis
	Richard Greenfield
	Thomas Nowicki
	Ken Speedie
	Bob Thomas
	Mitchell D. Jones Jr.
	Ronsld H. Alcatraz
	Jay Wigley
	James Aubrey Jensen
	Aaron Pelz
	Len Belpedio
	Scott Weatherhogge
	Erik Nevels
	Roy E. Rodgers


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From: Vince Callaway <????????????????>
Subject: Pipes.org reference

The March issue of Playboy had a reference to www.pipes.org.

In the Advisor column a person asked how to refurb an old pipe.  The gave
a quick answer and said to read www.pipes.org.

So what sort of man reads www.pipes.org :>

[ Sorry this came too late for most folks to look it up, but we've
achieved, well, notoriety! -S. ]


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From: "William H. Magill" <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #233 -- March 9, 1997

>   From: "Gamini Weerasekera" <????????????????????????????????????>
>   Subject: Zippo lighters
>
>       >Subject: Re: Pipe Digest Zippo lighters
>       >Custom Pipe Lighter Status:
>       >The lighters have been ordered, and according to my distributor, are
>       >in production. The pre-production proofs I saw looked great.
>
>       Pipe and cigar smokers, certainly hope not using butane lighters!
>       They impart an awful flavor.  Only cedar matches please.  
>
>   [ My Corona butane lighter works fine for me, Gamini! BTW, the order
>   was for liquid-fuel lighters (don't know the chemical name of lighter
>   fluid.) Some people like 'em fine, some don't. -S. ]
>
Commercial "Lighter Fluid" is basically naphtha. However, almost anything
can be used without too much trouble. I remember from my years in the Army
Reserves using the "strainer" on the Captain's Jeep to fill our lighters
with at summer camp - you just tossed the lighter into the strainer in the
fill neck of the Jeep (M1-51) and pulled it out full of whatever the stuff
was that the happened to be pushing in the motor pool that day - generally
speaking "not gasoline."

I've used the "Beaty Jet" and Nimrod off and on for years. 
However, my preference is still for a Zippo with the wick pulled out.
The Zippo really does light all the time, every time! and in virtually
any wind.

The "Beaty Jet" has a small tube which extends from the reservoir into
the flame path. You light the flame, it heats the fluid in the tube into
a gas and a "jet flame" appears which you just direct into the top of the
pipe. Really a neat device (A true engineer's lighter.) - but boy does it
suck up fuel!  

The Nimrod is a "windproof" or "chimney" lighter. It's a 1/2 inch cylinder
about 3 inches long which "opens" in the middle. You hold you finger on the
"striker wheel" and pull the two ends apart. When it catches, you have a
flame inside a "chimney" which you then just place on top of the pipe.
Personally, I never had the dexterity to get the bloody thing to light
every time, (although I have had friends who swore by theirs) but other
than that, it too works well. 

I'm looking forwared to getting my "Pipes Lighter" in the mail!

T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill                          Senior Systems Administrator
Information Services and Computing (ISC)   University of Pennsylvania
Internet: ????????????????????             ??????????????
          ????????????????                 http://pobox.upenn.edu/~magill/

[ I'm looking forward to the PD lighter, too!  Hey, Steve: do PD
members get discounts for flights on the Beaty Jet? -S. ]


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From: Robert Senter <???????????????????>
Subject: Zippo's and other info

HI, 
just wanted to let any pipe smokers who like Zippos know that I have
several sets of Zippos with the displays (pictured in the 1996 catalog)
for sale. willing to work a deal for the complete sets. Also I work for
a local tobacconist here in Colorado and we do ship product, to include
service members overseas...Most of us (to include the owner) are retired
military. If any intersest or need more info my e-mail is:
???????????????????
Thanks
Robert

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From: ????????????????????????? (Charles Myers)

        Steve, I would like to make the Digest readers aware of a pipe
collection for sale.  Fred Loveland is a collector and also my brother. 
Fred is one of the major Kaywoodie collectors in the country and recently
bought a large Kaywoodie collection, having done so he is selling off a
number of other brands including Savinelli, Weber, Comoy, etc.  Most are
70's or older and are reasonably priced, cleaned and ready to smoke. 
Anyone interested can obtain a list by writing Fred at 2605 Albury Ave
Deltona, FLA 32738 or calling 904 789-1589 between 4 and 9 pm weekdays or
anytime weekends.  Fred will also have a number of Kaywoodies for sale and
has a separate list of these that can be requested. By the way someone
asked if Kaywoodies were still being manufactured, I believe they are
produced in Italy and they are junk, don't buy a new one, there are plenty
of old ones at reasonable prices and they are far superior to the new ones.

        And now another topic.  For you cigar smokers considering a pipe I
offer another good reason to give it a try.  My morning commute is about 20
minutes, plenty of time for a nice bowl of pipe tobacco, but I would never
consider only smoking one of my too expensive cigars for such a short time.
 Same thing for quick evening runs to the store for milk or baby formula,
you can always re-light a pipe but I personally don't enjoy a re-lit cigar,
I wish I did.

        Finally on to the topic of different pipes for different tobacco. 
I like to flavor a pipe with one kind of tobacco and then smoke something
that compliments that taste in the same pipe, for example I'll smoke a
black cavindish thats kind of sweet just to perpare the pipe for a heavy
latakia mixture...I think new pipe smokers should realize there are no
rules about this kind of thing and half the fun is in experimenting.  My
wife just called and I think my Digest lighter has arrived...time to go
home. 

[ Did the lighter show up? -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Jerry Korn
Lighters Galore/Plus
P.O.Box 534
San Marcos, CA 92079


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From: Duane Campbell <??????????????>
Subject: My small protest

For eleven years now I have attended an annual dinner theater put on by
our local community theater group to benefit the Friends School. It is
held for three weekends in February, Friday night, Saturday night, and
Sunday matinee, at three different locations in the county, all of which
allow smoking under normal circumstances. This year the school imposed a
no smoking rule for all performances at all locations. This is no
smoking through cocktail hour, dinner, followed by a play. I WILL NOT
exile myself to the porch, not in February or any other month. I told
the organizer that I would not be attending again as long as the no
smoking rule stood.
-- 
Duane Campbell
??????????????
http://www.epix.net/~dcamp/

When I die and go to Hell, at least I can keep my same ISP

[A perspicacious move, Duane!  -S.]


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From: ????????????????? (Allen Childers)
Subject: things holy and pure

Gentlemen,
	
	First off, I would like to say thanks for such a informative
website/digest. I'm rather new to the whole internet thing and was
pleasantly surprised to find such a wealth of information on my newest
hobby/obsession (we have to have a few irons in the fire, now don't
we?). The digest takes the edge off what can be a most unpleasant
Monday morning.
	Secondly, I would be interested in meeting other like minded
individuals in the San Diego, CA area who currently gather at a local
pipe friendly watering hole/or the like, (of course I have to schedule
this with the boss i.e.  girlfriend), to discuss the finer points of
40 IDA 3C Weber carberators, dangerous game hunting, gardening tips,
collecting used pipe cleaners, etc., etc.
	And finally, (notice a pattern here?) information on the
purchase of a calabash (new, used, better than new, only smoked by a
little old lady on the way to church on Sundays). Also information
from current owners of these types of smoking instruments. You my
respond to me directly at: ?????????????????
	
	Now where did I put that tin of Dunhill...
	
	keep your powder dry,
	
	Allan Childers


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From: "Graeme T. Steel" <?????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #233 -- March 9, 1997

Dear Steve,

I am thoroughly enjoying Pipes Digest. It's a great adjunct to the pipe 
magazines one subscribes to. I have a reply to Simon Mitchell's enquiry 
on Sydney tobacconists. I come from Sydney, although I live in 
Indonesia. There are a couple of good tobacconists in Sydney: one of 
these is Sol Levy Pty Ltd., 713 George Street, Sydney 2000. Tel: (02) 
9211 5677. They stock a very wide range of packaged and loose tobaccos. 
They also have a great selection of pipes at excellent prices. There is 
also a good tobacconist in Oxford Street, Paddington/Darlinghurst. I 
just can't recall their name. but it's in the Sydney Yellow Pages under 
"Tobacconists". In Melbourne there are a couple too (I presume they're 
still in business): Benjamins, Myer House Arcade, 250 Elizabeth Street, 
Melbourne. Tel (03) 663 2897. Also Daniels Fine Tobaccos, 300 Lonsdale 
Street, Melbourne Central. Of all these, Sol Levy's is hard to beat.
Simon Mitchell can contact me directly if he wants further details.

Keep up the good work, Steve. It is appreciated by us all.

Best Wishes,

Graeme T. Steel

[ Lonsdale Street, hmmmm?  Thanks, Graeme! -S. ]


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From: Ed Loofhauser <??????????????????>
Subject: Ad: Smoke Shapes book

(Steve, this is an ad for my book, so please don't run it unless it meets the
policy rules. Thanks, Ed.)

Greetings, pipe fans,

  I'm going to de-lurk for a little while to plug my book -- hope you don't
mind! <g> 

  I've been a pipe smoker for more than twenty years, and am also a
professional magician and master member of the American Guild of Mages.  (You
may have seen my act on TV some time ago; I did a bit with balloons filled with
smoke, water, etcetera.  I smoked cigs at the time, but gave them up for a pipe
many years ago.)

  I've always loved blowing smoke rings, too, and have often wondered why it's
not possible to make more complicated shapes.  Well, after a lot of trying, I
found that you could.  And I wrote a book about how to do it: "Smoke Shapes"
(privately published.)  The book takes you through a self-taught course that
goes from simple shapes, starting with rings, and progressing through the
smooth shapes, like whales, fish, and snakes, and on to more difficult shapes,
like animals.

  There are two secrets: a thicker, more viscous smoke, and precise control.
Ordinary tobacco smoke doesn't stick together very well, so I had to improve
its viscosity.  I get the viscous smoke by using a harmless casing additive on
your favorite blend. (The recipe is proprietery, but I have it for sale too.)

  The precise control just takes practice, practice, practice, and lots of it.
But with my guide, it's just as easy (or as hard! <g>) as learning how to play
a brass wind instrument like a trumpet.  You have to control the flow rate,
pressure, and temperature simultaneously, which *really* takes a lot of
doing. You have to be able to precisely collide smoke rings together at the
right time and place to do the more advanced shapes (including dogs, cats, and
Churchill with a cigar).  I'll also teach you how to blow smoke sheets and
rolling streamers, both of which are needed.

  The hardest thing I've done is the fire-breathing dragon from a scene in
Spider Robinson's book "Callahan's Lady."  I'm a sci-fi fan too, and when I
read that book, I spent two or three months figuring how to do it.  It's
complicated, and doesn't always work, but when it does, it's great.  It blows
smoke, too!  (If anybody gets good enough to figure out how to get the dragon
to blow a smoke shape, let me know!)

  Check out my web site, http://www.fourinone.com/~loof/smkshape.htm, for the
book and pictures of some of my best shapes, including the dragon.  Or you can
email me if you'd like to order the book. ($29.95 postpaid, quality paperback.)

  And Steve, as always, thanks for a great Digest!

===== Ed Loofhauser == American Guild of Mages == ?????????????????? ======
===== http://www.fourinone.com/~loof/smokshape.htm ================ (( * ))
"Treat me as you would the most dangerous of the criminal insane." -Houdini

[ Very interesting, Ed! I'll check out the Web page. And probably
order the book, if the lighter doesn't break my budget! -S. ]


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From: "Kenneth R. Seguin" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Favorite Places to Indulge in a Bowlful or Cigar

Greetings to All, especially those kind enough to share their thoughts on
subjects I ventured into last PD. Am both grateful and *impressed* at the bon
homme and good graces shown so charitably to this relative newcomer. Responses
have been fast, interesting, and intelligent. Quite a change from a day at the
office (only kidding, sort of.)

Besides carefully choosing our briar and tobaks, the setting in which
we indulge can be worth a roadtrip to maximize the experience.

What I'm hoping will be an engaging subject for some is to share where some of
us go to best enjoy our cherished briars and tobaks. We're all different so
anything goes, and the more different and varied the better.

To start us off, my favorite place to indulge in our Mistress Nicotina
is anyplace where i can watch ships, tugs, and barges. I love visiting
river front parks with ship traffic, and say a Castello full of PCCA
rich Virginia.

Surprisingly, pipes are not as enjoyable as I had anticipated *on* a
ship/Puget Sound WSDOT ferry boat as one would think. The wind makes
for a hot smoke and lighting is a challenge at best. Nevertheless, I
cherish the bowlfuls spent watching the Seattle skyline at night from
the deck of a ferry boat. We must all have a few favorite spots.

2nd place would be to walk among fishing boats or a pier of fishermen and
chatting. Fishermen are kindred spirits to pipesmokers it seems to me. Relaxed,
thoughtful, polite.

For future pursuits of yet another memorable bowlful, how about:

- hiking to a good viewpoint in the mountains and capping the moment with a
bowlful, or

- maybe dressing up on Halloween and comfortably walking around in public
smoking a great big Calabash!

- watching the QE 2 sail past the Statue of Liberty

- watching a sternwheeler ply the Mississippi or Ohio

(well, I'll "settle" for watching the workboats travels the
sloughs/tidal rivers of the Pacific Northwest and be glad still)

And maybe a lament of great smoking opportunities lost:

- a 1960's full size screen theatre, seeing Cool Hand Luke or any other great
piece of Cinema while enjoying some fine leaf.

Jot down whatever appeals to you as a great smoking setting, indulged
in or not.  Your favorite spots now, or maybe something lost but not
forgotten. (For the cigar folks, Holland America Cruise line just
recently ended what sounded like a most sensuous smoking experience in
their Explorers Lounge aboard certain cruises. I read a dscription of
it on CompuServe's Travel forum cruise review section. Sounded like
one heck of a reason to rest your briar! If anyone here experienced
this extraordinary indulgence and can submit a candid description, it
might well be enjoyed be many. Someone should take a moment to
capture/save the memory at least.)


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From: joey sulak <??????????????????>
Subject: any pipe clubs in riverside?

Hi all! this is my first post so bear with me. First my complements to
everyone who makes the pipes digest so wonderful, i look forward to
recieving it and reading it each month.

Now to my question, i was wondering if there any pipe or cigar clubs in
riverside county california. I lean more towards pipe smoking but a cigar
every now and then is just fine too. Any way let me know if there any i'd
appreciate it.

[ There's Steve Johnson's Southwest Pipe & Cigar League: 1532 South
Bundy Dr., Apt. D, Los Angeles, CA 90025, ?????????????????  From what
I hear about California, you guys really need it!  I'm going to put
that in the Guide; should have done so long ago. -S. ]


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From: Gordon Padwick <??????????????????????>
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #233 -- March 9, 1997

Stephen:

Thank you for Pipe Digest. You obviously put a lot of effort into it,
which I appreciate.

I'm at a disadvantage because I live in California - the anti-smoking
capital of the world! However, I'm a long-time pipe smoker and expect
to spend the rest of my life enjoying my "vice".

I live in southern California, close to the border between Ventura and
Los Angeles counties. Are there any other pipe smokers in this area
who would like to have an occasional get-together? If so, I'd like to
arrange a gathering somewhere in the general area of Agoura Hills,
Westlake Village, or Thousand Oaks.

Stephen, if people respond to this suggestion, can you put them in
touch with me? I'd enjoy meeting with pipe smokers who manage to exist
in this barren region.

Gordon Padwick

[ Be glad to do so, Gordon, but interested parties can email you
directly!  If you're reading this on the Web site, just send me mail
and I'll reply with Gordon's address. 

And see Ken's letter below, and Joey's above. Dang, these coincidences
are happening a lot! -S. ]


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From: "Ackerman,Kenneth V" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: yet another new PD member

Three weeks with this new toy, so time to get off the sidelines and
introduce
myself . . . 
My name is Ken, am a relatively youngish 41, have been smoking a pipe
on and off since a freshman at U of IL at age 18, but have collected
high-grades
and pipe lit. aggressively for years.  It's nice to see so many younger
guys
picking up on pipes--it looked like a dying hobby for a while.
I live in L.A., and while cigars are easy to find, good pipes are a lot
harder.
If you're traveling out this way, you should pay a visit to Ed's
(Original
Tinder Box) in Santa Monica, Gus' in Sherman Oaks, and Maxwell's in
Yorba Linda (Orange County).  In San Diego try Liberty Tobacco on
Claremont Mesa, and do stop into the tobacco store cum museum in
Old Town San Diego, more for the experience than to buy anything.
Unfortunately, the best selection/prices for top-notch pipes are in
Europe,
especially Italy, so if you can swing it, save a few hundred (or
thousand)
dollars for pipe purchases if you travel there.  I always bring back
half a dozen
or more great pieces to add to the collection--the customs people have a
ball
looking at them.  I always declare half of their value or less, and they
still
can't figure how a pipe can cost more than $20.  The last time I paid no
duty
at all cuz they decided they were art works instead of pipes!
 . . .Recently discovered a nearly bite-free cavendish that burns
nearly all the way down to a fine ash--it's available at Ford & Haig
Tob.
in Scottsdale AZ, called "Papago," and is likely available elsewhere
under
another name.  Highly recommended, and good mail order service too.
till next time . . . . . . .  --Ken Ackerman


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From: Norbert Oppitz <????????????????????????>
Subject: H E L P - The next good tobacco shop is thousands of miles away

Dear Steve,

first of all many thanks for your dedicated work in keeping such a lot of 
pipesmokers togehter, as you do by the "Digest". You will have received 
my message regarding my change from Mexico to Ecuador - but my real 
problem apparently is not the E-Mail adress, but the total unavailability 
of any decent pie shop. This means that I am cut off pipes and tobacco!!!

PLEASE, can anybody give me a decent adress in either Ecuador, Bogota, 
Caracas, MIAMI (I'll be there in a couple of weeks) wher I can shop pipes 
and tobacco?? I'll travel to Bogota and Miami frequently, and one or two 
times a year to Caracas. Please help me out of this mess.

Did anybody hear about a pipe-smoking club in Ecuador?????

hanks for your help, and best regards

Norbert Oppitz

[ Can anyone help Norbert with this? -S. ]


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From: MICHAEL GLUKLER <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Personal links question

Steve, all, and any help/suggestions are welcome, and needed. I am not new
to computers, but very new to Windows. A brief history; the company I work
for, used to do all paper work via typewriters. Every mistake, had to be
re-done, and so on. After some coaxing, we looked into the world of
computers, and have used them ever since.  I had the most up to date
computer, on staff, and it was a 386 with 0 ram, as my work station. When
our federal government, decided to put in some new labelling regulations,
it forced us, to upgrade. So our plant manager went out and bought a used
486, with Windows 95, already installed. It was thrust on to my shoulders
to enter all the new labels, in both national languages and now the 486, is
in my office, were it shall stay.  I am used to Compuserve using Doscim,
and it was working fine. I had no access to the Internet, but I was happy.
Now with the 486, I have access to the net, but I have such limited
knowledge of windows, I am slowly finding my way around.  I am still trying
to figure out how to download, while on the net, and I am also trying to
figuire out how to configure the system so I have easy access to the
newsgroups.  I would like to set up a home page, but there again I have no
expirience working with graphics of any kind. So as I say, I am open to any
and all suggestions.
Regards Mike Glukler 


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From: kcoreynn <??????????????????????>
Subject: Dunhill Pipes, why so expensive?

I'm a relatively new pipe smoker (returning after many years away)
trying to acquire a small gathering of "good" pipes for my weekend
smoking. Usually not able to smoke during the week due to work and
travel. Have bought one GBD which was awful, one "no name" $20 special
which is good, and one Savinelli low end price range which is very
nice.

Doing Internet research seems to indicate everyone wants Dunhill, or
so their price would indicate. My question is; what is it that makes
Dunhill command the price? Do they smoke that much nicer? Are they a
lot better than Savinellis' higher end products? At my budget point
($100 or less) I'll be going for used pipes ("estate pipes" as they're
called).

Any suggestions? Also, any suggestions on where to make the best
buys,and who is the most reliable to work with, including hassle free
returns if the product that arrives is not what one had in mind?

Looking forward to the response. Thanks, Ken Corey
??????????????????????


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From: Tim A Canedo <??????????????????????>
Subject: Mango Cavendish

I noticed your mention of Mango Cavendish and it so happens that I have 
been trying to track down that blend for a friend who is working in 
Egypt.  I've tried everywhere in the Washington DC metro area, to no 
avail.  My friend thinks I'm slacking because he is cetain that the 
tobacco is in abundance at every corner tobacco shop.  Any ideas on where 
I can procure this elusive blend?

Thanks for your help.

Tim Canedo

[ I think I mail-ordered a bit of it from Jon's Pipe Shop (the address
and phone are in the Guide.) -S. ]


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From: "Joe Steady" <??????????????????????>
Subject:  Antique Humidors

	Hi.
	Do you know of  a web site or text that has pictures of turn of the
century humidors?

	Joe 

[ Not offhand; if someone knows of such a site, please let us know
too! -S. ]


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From: "Kurdsjuk, Jacob (Jake), CTSTF" <?????????????????>
Subject: NYPC Show and Humidified Pipes

Steve,

It was a pleasure to finally get to meet you at the NYPC show.  It was
also nice seeing Mark Tinsky again and finally being able to put some
faces with some of the names I've been dealing with or seeing in the
digest (Bob Hamlin, Nikos Levin, Rich Esserman, etc.).  Had a great time
and managed to pick up a few pipes before my wallet began screaming, a
nice W.O.Larsen, an estate Savinelli (to see if I was missing anything)
and a beautiful churchwarden from Paul Bonaquisti. Mark Tinsky had
mentioned Paul to me on several occasions and was glad to finally meet
him - I actually have a Tinsky/Bonaquisti hybrid (Tinsky made -
Bonaquisti rusticated) I bought from Mark last September.  I've smoked
the Bonaquisti twice so far and it is wonderful, cool smoker.  I highly
recommend searching out his pipes.  

Before I go, Jason J. Sarsany <???????????????????> wrote in PD #233:

>My mom mentioned something about how my grandfather had a box full of
>everything he needed to smoke his pipe, including the pipe itself.  She
>told me he claimed it kept everything moist.  I realize this is a humidor
>of some sort.  So this raised the question as to why he would keep his
>pipe in a humidor.  <snip>  My question is why would he put his pipe in a
humidor?

Before I took up the pipe I noticed that a cigar smoking friend of mine
who enjoyed an occasional pipe had the same habit.  Not knowing then
what I deem to know now I didn't ask him, but did get around to it after
taking up the pipe myself.  He claimed that it not only kept the pipe
out of his kids hands, but it was far more convenient to have the pipe
right there when he wanted a smoke.  My guess is that the level of
convenience may have been the reason your grandfather did the same.  It
would also serve as a measure of protection for the pipe itself.  Though
I don't know if I would try it myself, I would imagine that a humidified
pipe would require a significantly larger number of pipe cleaners per
bowl then your conventionally racked one.  My friend has since given up
the pipe and has devoted himself to the cigar.  I wouldn't doubt if the
never-dry briar may have had something to do with it.

Happy puffing,

Jake Kurdsjuk

************************************************************************
*  And so on land, on sea, at home, abroad,
*  I'll smoke my pipe and worship God.   - J.S.Bach
*           (Erbauliche Gedanken eines Tabakrauchers)
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From: "Erik R. Nevels" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Pipesmoking.

Hello Steve,

My name is Erik and I've read your article about how to smoke a
pipe. I found it nice to read about this subject, because I started
recently smoking pipe and there are not too many people who can tell
all about it.  I started with a cheap pipe, just too try. Recently I
bought a more expensive pipe because I was curious if other pipes
smoke different and better. Well, it did smoke better and
different. The magic of it all is, I can't tell why!  Can you tell me
if there is a difference in quality and how that can be? I don't!
There is such a choice in pipes, I just took the one witch shape I
liked.  Maybe there are more things I can think about before choosing
(in the future) another pipe! I know, for example, that cigars smoke
better when there longer and thicker. Can you say that pipes with
wider and bigger bowls have better smoke characteristics?

I really don't know if you like to answer my questions or maybe give a few
tips. If you don't, it doesn't matter, in that case I just wanted to let you
know that smokin a pipe is very enjoyable and it goes well!

Greetings,

Erik Nevels
Zwolle, The Netherlands

[ Not always.  Lately I've acquired a couple of large-bowl pipes, but 
some of my best smokers are Sasienis with smallish bowls. And see
below. -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I have about 4 very large pipes in my collection and have had quite a 
time getting a "cake" to form in the bottom of them! I have learned that
the "cake" forming" process is most effective at the lighting level,
That is,, the level at witch the match or lighter starts the tobacco.
Theirfore, if you pack your pipe at a lower level, you can make the cake
form were ever you want! I have started packing my larger pipes at the very 
bottom and have had great cake buildup in that area!! Try it!! See ya!!
Russell!

[ an excellent idea! -S. ]


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From: "Jon M. Buscall" <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Submission:  Porsche Pipes

I would be really interested to hear from anyone who can tell me anything
about Porsche Pipes. (production figures, value, availability,
distribution, etc)

I happened to receive one recently and I am quite impressed, although it is
rather on the heavy side and has a HUGE bowl. (Amazing that it doesn't have
a filter for a German pipe, though!) I've discovered that they were
produced during the eighties and early nineties and have since been
discontinued but what else is there to know about them. Are you a
twentysomething  smoker who fancied a cyber-punk pipe design ; or are you
just a collectior? I am yet to see someone smoking one here in Copenhagen.
        
It's quite an original design, I am sure; but is it the  pipe design of the
future - or is the briar here to stay?
I would be interested to know of any other postmodern pipes, so to speak,
if anyone knows of any. 

One last thing: WHAT was the pipe Pierce Brosnan was smoking in the film
MARS ATTACKS? My guess is on a Savanelli; can anyone confirm this? Or how
about his choice of tobacco?

Greetings from Denmark - the pipe smoking capital of the world.
Jon Buscall
??????????????????????????


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

My question has to do with a finnish that, Richard Carltol Hacker, claims,
in his book, "The Ultamate Pipe Book", can be obtained. He says, in chapter 
four, "The Secrets of Successful Pipe Smoking",(pages 138-140)..."Of course,
the wax polish can be resurrected at any time, simply by applying carnuba 
wax to the pipe and buffing". He is refering to the glass polish found 
on a new pipe,,I belive. OK,,, Here is the question,,,,,,,, I have found
,,(belive this) a car wax,,, yes a car wax that claims to be 100% Carnauba!
 It says right on the label "Contains 100% Pure Brazillan Carnauba"!!
Heres the catch,,, check the spelling! In Hacker's book, he spells it
"Carnuba" ! The product I have found spells it "Carnauba",, Is This the
same wax!?? Has someone misspelled the word? Can I put a "Car Wax" 
on my PIPES?? DO I DARE? Does anyone know??? PS. I tryed it on a tamper
made out of briar, and found pretty good results but I am now scared 
that my tamper is a bomb of some sort,, waiting to be lit by the sparks 
of my pipe!! *smile*. If anyone knows of a product called "EAGLE ONE"
that is made of the same stuff that Hacker is talking about I would be
gratefull!      Thanks!    Lets all    "Smoke in peace"   :later!)


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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: posting from pipes page

[ Quote from above letter deleted. -S. ]

        quick thought: while it contains Carnauba (i think the spelling
doesn't matter) it also contains a lot of other things that you probably
don't want on your pipes.  carnuba is a very hard wax in its pure state, and
for cars there are a lot of softeners added.  most pipe shops have sticks of
pure carnuba and use a buffer to get it on the pipe.  i know the wax is
available from Stemco/Pimo (see the resource guide) and from Woodcraft
(seach the web for 'Woodcraft')

Steve Beaty                                               ???????????????
Hewlett-Packard                                  ????????????????????????
Fort Collins, Colorado, USA         http://www.engr.colostate.edu/~beaty/

[ Personally, I don't think it's a "time bomb"; briar is _very_ tough
stuff, as anyone who's tried to buff out a burn mark can attest! -S. ]


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From: ???????????????????????????
Subject: comment from pipes page

For the Digest - am looking for a supplier of tobacco called Skandinavik Mix
made by the Orlik Tobacco Company of Denmark.
It was purchased in Greece by a customer of mine and he would like to find
more of it preferrably in North America. Anyone heard or smoked this stuff?
???????????????????????????

[ Once in a while in my younger days, I'd buy a packet of it, but I
haven't seen it in some time now. -S. ]


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From: "Chuck McKinney" <???????????????????>
Subject: Humidifier

Just want to share something I saw on one of the cigar sites. It's old hat
to most pipe smokers, but perhaps some of the new smokers will benefit from
it.

An aluminum cigar tube with a row of holes punched or drilled into it can
be used as a tobac humidifier. Just fill the tube with water absorbing
floral foam, soak in water and stick or lay it in a box or large can of
stale tobac, and in a few days the tobac will be ready for smoking. I use
this method adapted to other types of containers and it works well for
cigars and pipe tobac.

Two things are infinate: the universe and human stupidity and I'm
          not sure about the universe" - Albert Einstein


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From: Donovan Edwards <"104716,417"@compuserve.com>
Subject: Ben Wade 7 day pipe set

I have been doing some research for my father and came across your name
quite often.  My father has a Ben Wade Seven Day pipe set from the early
70's.  He is interested in finding it's value and would consider any 
reasonable offer.  Do you happen to know it's approximate worth?  I
appreciate any thing you can do to help.  Thanks.

[ I've recommended a few dealers to Donovan; others may wish to
contact him. -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: South Florida Briar Brotherhood

Please post this update on the South Florida Briar Brotherhood.  We
will continue to meet on the Third Thursday of each month at 8:00 PM
in the Loft of Turtle Run Liquors located at 9711 West Sample Road,
Coral Springs, FL.  There is no charge for attendance.  Our upcoming
meeting (April 17) will feature a sampling of the new tinned Cornell
and Diehl Tobaccos.  Please join us for a casual, fun evening and
enjoy the company of fellow pipe-smokers.  Feel free to contact Ed
Faerman at ?????????????????? for more information.  Send your snail
address to receive a free copy of our newsletter.

Thanks again for all your hard work on the Pipes Digest.  One of our
members purchased one of your lighters and may I say that it looks
fantastic.  I am certain there will be a flood of inquiries for
another production run.  I certainly would like to have one myself.
Please keep us informed of plans for more lighters.

Ed Faerman
The South Florida Briar Brotherhood
??????????????????

[Dang, it _must_ have arrived!  Eeyore, sorry, was I supposed to mail
you a check?  -S.]


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From: "Kenneth R. Seguin" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: W.O. Larsen Tobaks

Hi. Has anyone tried W.O. Larsen's pipe tobaccos and care to share their
opinion?

Many are offered in tins with beautiful artwork, and would appear to be quality
tobaccos. A good photo is in Pipes and Tobaccos' winter '97 issue - page 79.

If your local tobacconist doesn't carry them (mine doesn't), the ad
says to call 1-800-328-4365. They are mailing me info, but I thought I
would check here for impartial info.

Thanks.

- Ken


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From: "Kenneth R. Seguin" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: W.O. Larsen Praise plus Pipe Shape Matters!?- Agree or Disagree?

Hello again. An interesting booklet comes with Larsen pipes. It
contains a wealth of smoking information for the serious pipe smoker:
company info, pipe care (breaking in, reaming, cleaning, stem care),
pipe selection, and tobak info - all with excellent artwork and
gorgious illustrions.. Larsen obviously cares very much about their
pipes and customers!

Which brings up 2 subjects for interested Pipe Digest folks.

1.)  I wish other manufactures did the same. It gives one a very positive
impression of the company and its spirit.

Peterson includes a silver hallmark booklet, but no product or smoking info
(which really would be of much more interest and use IMO). 

I mention this with the hope that some companies, reps, and distributors
subscribe to PD. Larsen's brochure is a great way to make a customer and not
just a sale.

A JPG of the booklet would make a great addition to someone's web
page. The wonderful Bob Hamlin scanned some Dunhill info onto the PCCA
Sprynet site, so it is possible.

2.) One curious bit, and I quote the booklet here:

"Please note, if you smoke a mixture-cut, a wider and not too tall
pipe is best.  If a flake tobacco, a tall and more narrow shape is to
be prefered."

So pipe shape does matter? [I've seen another PD-er (or was it on Compu$erve)
asking if pipe shape mattered, but there didn't seem to be a response
unfortunately. I hope they get this bit of info.]

So much of pipe smoking involves different opinions and experiences,
that there is room for reasonable people to disagree on this
subject. I only have one 'wider, not too tall pipe', but it smokes
PCCA flake deliciously (a Castello sea rock - pot shape). Has Larsen
hit on somehting here? Any ideas why pipe shape should matter for
different tobaks? Must be something to it.

I can validate it to the extent that flake tobak seems to go out more
often in the pot shape. Tall and narrow makes a better
'furnace'. Maybe that's what they are getting at [since flake is more
difficult to burn than "mixture-cut" (ribbon cut?)]. Conversely, and
also of interest, faster burning ribbon cut would smoke cooler in a
pot shape.

I like flake in the pot shape because (though sometime difficult to get well
lit) once going it does seem to smoke cooler and drier.

But then, I have a tall, narrow Nording which smokes flake hot and
wet, but pipe shop/common ribbon ok. Huge price difference though
($210 PCCA Castello vs. a $70 local smoke shop Nording).

Have a tall & narrow Castello which smokes flake like a dream. Smoking
PCCA Noel in it is like sipping fine red wine. It is just heaven!

My car pipes are 2 tall & narrow Il Ceppo's, which are dedicated to
PCCA Noel (ie, a flake tobacco). They often go out in rush hour
traffic somehow. I guess I forget to breath or something? amidst the
thrilling chaos.

Hope this is the start of some interesting discussion. Please let us hear your
pipe shape experiences & theories, and maybe whether you too would like pipe
manufacturers to include a good brochure with your next piece of briar.

So there you have it. I highly recommend the Larsen brochure and pipes to
everyone. I'm so impressed with the Larsen brochure, I've taken a chance and
special ordered some Larson tobak in a decorative tin. (If nothing else, I'll
have a fancy tin to put my Noel in at home)  ; ).

Live well, and smoke in peace,

- Ken

p.s. PCCA has some top of the line Larsen masterworks (Larsen "Pearls") on the
PCCA web page. Heck of a way to get their wonderful brochure!    ; )     I've
enjoyed window shopping them if nothing else. BTW, Bob Hamlin's PCCA is an
absolutely super place to buy and learn from. [See link from the great PD web
page (www.pipes.org).]

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From: Lance Sang <????????????????????????>
Subject: first submission to pipes digest

Hello to all, and  thanks for such a high quality newsletter and forum.

I am a 50 year old retired obstetrician ....  I got "burned-out" (:  
Have been smoking pipes since I was in college; although I occasionally
fire up a cigar, I always seem to return to the briar.

When I lived in the Northeast, there was no problem in acquiring quality
pipes and tobaccos; then, when I moved to south Georgia / north Florida
(courtesy of the Army post-Vietnam) I had to rely on a poorly stocked
(at the time) Tinder Box and an Edward's shop.

I was delighted when I met Barry Levin in his first or second year of
business, and we became good friends as well as chronic pipe swappers; I
continue to miss him.

(You will most likely edit out the following paragraph: I am less than
enchanted with NML's prices, and am terribly dissatisfied with his
business practices, especially when one compares them to the ethics of
his late father).

My pipe preferences have evolved over the years, starting with large
billiards and Canadians from "name" makers; now, I prefer medium to
large full bents: pretty grain, light weight, and good cool smoking
being far more important than the maker's name or fame.

Tobaccos that I prefer are Oriental blends with very small amounts of
Latakia, and proportionally larger amounts of Macedonian, Basma, and,
when it's available, Yenidje leaf. (Even a small amount of Perique gives
me a terrible headache!)

Alternately, I will smoke red and orange Virginia flakes -- usually from
PCCA/ McClelland.
Recently I've had the pleasure of smoking some old (30-40 years) Three
Nuns, Dunhill's London Mixture, and Rattray's Red Rapparee; they were
all quite an experience, with the London Mixture seeming to have aged in
the most agreeable way.

I would like to submit to your resource database the name of the best
quality tobacconist in North Florida (where, incidentally, I worked as a
clerk after leaving my medical practice):

Gus Bock  is the knowledgeable proprietor of 

Tobacco Cove
3849 Baymeadows Road
Jacksonville, Florida 32217        (904) 731-2890

In closing, I might add that despite my having worked hard and spent
much to smoke over the years, I've already learned quite a bit from the
PD; if there is any information that I have that might be useful, I
would be happy to pass it along to the group.
Thank you again,
Lance Sang

[ We print all comments about dealers, positive and negative, as long
as they're within the submission guidelines. -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: pipes digest sub.

Dear Steve,
                 Many thanks for adding me to the Pipes Digest sub. list.
I've been online little more than a week~(construe the preceding mark as an
m-dash) a thing which would never have happened if my daughter didn't need it
for her college studies. I've already made use of PD #233, but especially
your indespensible Resourse Guide. I'm rapidly using my 50 free hours
(smile). The folks at Pipes & Tobaccos mag. pointed me in the direction of
www.pipes.org. A happy accident!
                                                
      I am gregarious by nature but misanthropic by experience, and thus had
vowed never to connect to the web. I prefer hand-written manuscript and
hand-set type to a keyboard connected to who knows where. Still, since I can
place future blame on my daughter's teachers, I thought to make the best of
this present evil tiding.                           

     Well, I limped into your orderly ~yet labyrinthine~ website @ 2400 bps
on Sunday the 16th. Monday afternoon I had ordered a 33,600 modem. On Wed.
evening, I eased back in to find a vast array of coloured graphic labor,
which refused to present themselves at the prehistoric 2400 bps. Now I long
for big screen high resolution.

    I started smoking a pipe about 5 years ago, and have yet to meet another
who does. My local tobacconist does not smoke a pipe. I nearly ruined a
beautiful straight-grain ~my first pipe~ through sheer ignorance. Need I tell
you how important your website is to my proper education?

    I never trust the guidance of a single voice, so your open forum affords
me the privilege of tasting the waters of many wells, without troubling the
well-keepers. I had begun to wear down the staff at Pipes & Tobaccos mag.,
with my constant flow of faxes.

    Today (the 22nd) I had to order ink to refill the cartridge in my
printer, which has been working at a fevered pace! SO far, I've printed out
your Resource Guide and issues 233, 232, & 231 of P D. If I slow to one per
week working back to #1, it will provide me with 4 1/2 years of study,
pleasant reading, and most importantly, meeting others who appreciate the
benefits of pipe smoking.

    My thanks to all who contribute; I shall try ~in time~ to do so.

    Alan Waring

[ Thanks, Alan!  I got a letter from P&T a couple of weeks ago
announcing that they'd put up a web site, but my DNS couldn't find
it. -S. ]


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From: ??????????????? (Gibb Robinson)
Subject: Carolinas Briar Friars Deep South Classic

Steve, again thank you for making our show flyer available on the INTERNET.
 I now have an EMAIL address for anyone who needs additional show
information, ????????????????	

Again, thanks from the Carolina Briar Friars and pipe smokers in general.


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From: TIM AND MONIKA LANG <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Please confirm Pipes Digest request

[Administrativa deleted. -S. ]

As long as I am writting this, do you know of any subscription
service that will send different tobacco every month or so?

Thanks again,
Tim Lang


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From: kcoreynn <??????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Dunhill Pipes Information and Literature Sources

[ Personal correspondence deleted. -S. ]

Also; would you happen to have any information about upcoming Shows in Boston? 
I thought at one time I had heard of a Show in April, but cannot find any 
information.
Thanks Again.
?????????????????????? 


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From: David L Chambers <??????????????????????>
Subject: Some Observations on the UK Scene

I first started smoking a pipe in the early 70's following in the
footsteps of my father who began way back in 1919!. When my children
came along I gave up smoking only to return again to my pleasure last
year. I have noticed a great change has taken place in my absence:- 

Before I could call into any local newsagent and choose from several
blends of brand name tobacco's now only one or two varieties seem
common. (Usually Condor and St.Bruno)

In the early 70's many non-specialist shops also sold pipes, this is no
longer the case.

Although we have cigarette advertising on billboards in the UK it is a
long time since I have seen an advert for pipe tobacco.

At a meeting of over 200 men which I attended recently I only came
accross one other pipe smoker.

I read that in the US there is a renewal of interest in the pipe.
Usually the UK follows such trends but this does not seem to be
happening.

I was wondering if any other UK members of this list have had a similar
experience to mine. Or is it down to the people of my home city of
Liverpool being less adventurous than the rest of the population? Its a
pity when we have one of the world's leading pipe tobacco manufacturers
based in the city

Dave

-- 
David L Chambers <??????????????????????>

[ We may be rare nowadays, but we're _quality_. -S. ]


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From: Lannes Johnson <???????????????????????>
Subject: Hi and Question

Hi Steve:
My name is Lannes Johnson and I live in Tulsa, OK. I recently suscribed
to the group and am enjoying the mailing very much.  I have been a piper
for about 30-35 years and I really love them.  I prefer Savinelli,
Peterson, and have a Meerschaum.  I have a Peterson, stuffed with
Macbaren's Symphony, in my mouth right now, and it's just right.
Question:
I have figured out how to read the messages on alt.smokers, but I can't
figure out how to reply????? Can you enlighten me???  I am hesitant to
reply because I am somewhat disappointed in the language and manners of
some of the users.  I certainly do not want to get in the middle of all
of that.  However, I would like to know how to reply if I ever wanted
to.  Don't get me wrong about all this.  I have picked up a lot of tips
in 30 years, some of them painfully expensive, some just simple thing
that really work.  I don't know it all, but I will share my modest
knowledge with any neophites that are willing to contact me.
Thanks for taking the time to read this message.  Thanks for the weekly
mailings ( got my first one last week & looking forward to the next
one).
Have a good one :---)
Lannes Johnson
Tulsa, OK

[ alt.smokers is a huge flame war; have you looked at
alt.smokers.pipes? That's only a small flame war. :-) -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: comment from pipes page

Interesting review - been smoking pipes for awhile but got to do so by 
osmosis (my Journalism Prof in college).  Care to include nicotine or tar 
intake, if any such study exists.  That would make interesting conversation.
Thanks in advance.
enzo

[? -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Fellow pipe smokers:

In a previous PD issue someone shared a good story about how the only place
they could find J.M. Barrie's _My Lady Nicotine_ was at their local library.
They were under the impression that this book is no longer in print...well,
I'm gald to inform everyone that it is in print but not by a large publisher.
A fellow pipe lover I know undertook the task of republishing this gem a few
years back.  Here's the ordering information:

*************
Ordering is simple.  You can either call or e-mail.  We accept Visa/MC, check
or M.O.

My company is called Thornbush Anthologies.  Our phone/fax number is
208-882-6150.  Our address is 404 S. Monroe, Moscow, ID 83843.
email:  ????????????????????

This volume is a hard bound edition with Burgundy colored boards and a very
nice dust jacket.  The cost for the book is $14.99 with $5.00 S&H.
****************

For those of you who have never heard of or read this tome, it is a very good
read.  It's fairly well written and is quite hilarious.  Enjoy.

Scott 


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From: Jack Fox <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Tobacco shop listings

Steve,

Is there any way in the future that the listing of the tobacco shops
be categorized by state?  This would help travelers locate shops
easily as well as locating shops near you that perhaps you didn't know
were there.

Thanks,

Jack Fox

[ You can easily search the text for the name of your state under
Netscape or any text editor. -S. ]


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From: Jennifer Lindblad <?????????????????????????????????>
Subject: Astley Pipes

When in England, I purchased a fine pipe from Astleys, on Picadilly
Circus, only later to discover that this company was actually quite
famous for many years.  Recently, however, I have discovered that there
was a "pre-Upshall" period that seems to be more highly prized than
their "Upshall" period pipes (Upshall seems to have produced Astley
pipes in recent years).  Question: is there any way to distinguish a
"pre-Upshall" period Astely from the "Upshall" period Astley?  Does it
matter?  Thanks, by the way, for the wonderful Pipes Digest!

[ You're quite welcome, and I hope one of our members can help with
your question! -S. ]


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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #234 -- April 1, 1997
  2. Subject: Pipes.org reference
  3. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #233 -- March 9, 1997
  4. Subject: Zippo's and other info
  5. Subject: posting from pipes page
  6. Subject: My small protest
  7. Subject: things holy and pure
  8. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #233 -- March 9, 1997
  9. Subject: Ad: Smoke Shapes book
  10. Subject: Favorite Places to Indulge in a Bowlful or Cigar
  11. Subject: any pipe clubs in riverside?
  12. Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #233 -- March 9, 1997
  13. Subject: yet another new PD member
  14. Subject: H E L P - The next good tobacco shop is thousands of miles away
  15. Subject: Personal links question
  16. Subject: Dunhill Pipes, why so expensive?
  17. Subject: Mango Cavendish
  18. Subject: Antique Humidors
  19. Subject: NYPC Show and Humidified Pipes
  20. Subject: Pipesmoking.
  21. Subject: posting from pipes page
  22. Subject: Submission: Porsche Pipes
  23. Subject: posting from pipes page
  24. Subject: Re: posting from pipes page
  25. Subject: comment from pipes page
  26. Subject: Humidifier
  27. Subject: Ben Wade 7 day pipe set
  28. Subject: South Florida Briar Brotherhood
  29. Subject: W.O. Larsen Tobaks
  30. Subject: W.O. Larsen Praise plus Pipe Shape Matters!?- Agree or Disagree?
  31. Subject: first submission to pipes digest
  32. Subject: pipes digest sub.
  33. Subject: Carolinas Briar Friars Deep South Classic
  34. Subject: Please confirm Pipes Digest request
  35. Subject: Re: Dunhill Pipes Information and Literature Sources
  36. Subject: Some Observations on the UK Scene
  37. Subject: Hi and Question
  38. Subject: comment from pipes page
  39. Subject: posting from pipes page
  40. Subject: Tobacco shop listings
  41. Subject: Astley Pipes
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