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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest #236 -- May 7, 1997

		 Pipes Digest #236 -- May 7, 1997
   Copyright (C) 1997 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 2914

Welcome to new members:

	Sam Barnett
	Tom Booth
	Richard Greenfield
	Terrence G Peterson
	David W. Shaw
	Dan Toupal
	Geoff Proud
	Mike Wernsing
	Kirk Bonds
	Kenneth M. Berner
	Arch. Alfredo Petese
	Ray Newton
	Fernando M Marquez
	Kjell E F Kalmelid II
	Michael Hunter
	Ken Dixon
	Matt Schmitt
	Matthew Lonnee
	Bill Drake
	Gary B. Ellison
	Steve Wright
	Richard Levine
	Steven B.
	Steve Johnson
	Joe Duran
	Ernest L. Sanchez
	Steve Vancise
	Mike Harper
	Louis Peters
	Craig F. Skelly
	Charles Crawford
	Robert Ferchenbauer
	Ryan Thun
	Soren Staun Jorgensen
	Phil White
	G. Curt Willocks
	Dennis Kragh
	Jimmy R. Waynick
	Roy Sternberger
	Roderick Stirling
	Torsten Krause
	Ron Springer
	Michael Pirro
	Tim Roberts
	Justin Conrad Fullmer
	Ian D. Highway
	Gary Spiegel
	George Anderson
	Don Hockman Jr.
	Larry E. Vaughan
	John Hodges II
	Bruce Alberts
	Richard Gordon
	Robert L. Black Jr.
	Jeffrey S. Nethers
	Thomas Holland
	Howard Dean
	Scott Wiley
	Steve Carlson
	Bryan M. Mullins

[ CDROM ] The Pipes Digest CD-ROM should soon be available, thanks to
the unflagging efforts of our estimable Webmaster, Steve Beaty!  See
the first message for details.  And if you run a Web site and would
like to contribute some of your material (consonant with the Digest
policies), please contact Steve at ????????????????

[ SPRINGTIME! ] And now, on some better notes, let's join the spring
peepers and wood thrushes with a good smoke, and peruse this issue's
missives, which include not one, but two, unique new Thacquerisms,
done as only Bill can do them...

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	    Help Stop Prohibition  --  Keep Tobacco Legal

		      Call  --  Write  --  Vote

			Then, smoke in peace.

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????>
Subject: CDROM and book

Steve and all,

	well, i've got the www.pipes.org CDROM pretty much put together,
	and i'm left wondering: who cares?  is there much interest
	in purchasing such a beast?  the large downside to having a
	CDROM is that it is static; while the web site is updated on
	an almost-daily basis, the CDROM is once forever. the upside
	would be that people could browse at the speed i do :-)  i can't
	see producing them for less that $20 a piece as the time and
	materials cost close to that.  one way that might increase the
	value would be if other sites would like to have their stuff on
	it too.  there's currently plenty of room for others.  if anyone
	is interested in putting their site on, please contact me.

	while we're on the subject of archival media, i put together
	a book of all the digests a while back for Tom Dunn to have.
	is anyone interested in my making more of these?


Steve Beaty                                                   ???????????????
Creator and maintainer:                                 http://www.pipes.org/

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????>
Subject: Chicago show

                         Chicago pipe show trip report

well, it's time i gather my thoughts on the Chicago show and send
them out.  be forewarned that this is the first show i've attended,
so i have no basis for comparison.  that said; i had a great time!
i'm told there were ~136 tables there, and it filled a decently large
ballroom at a Ramada Inn.  i flew from Denver on Saturday morning and
back Sunday evening.  my overall impression was that the show was very
well run. the folks who set it up had done a very good job.  i thanked
Frank Burla (http://members.aol.com/fpburla/) for a job well done,
and he said everyone had worked very hard on it.  getting there was
particularly easy as there was a Tri-State bus that went from Ohare to
the Ramada directly for a very reasonable cost.  there were plenty of
helpful people who had all the logistics well in hand.  the security
was first rate; and i'm sure this was very reassuring to all those who
had brought their very nice pipes...

my first stop was at the Cornell and Diehl table, where i met Graig
and Patty for the first time.  all the good things said about them are
true!  they had a constant line at their 'filling station' of high
quality tobaccos, and they generated lots of interest from all who
stopped by.  they were kind enough to let me rest my legs on a chair
at their table when i got tired from wandering the floor (thanks!).

i was able to meet lots of on-line people while wandering the floor.
i think there might be as many Mikes as there are Steves among us :-)
it was very gratifying to hear that so many people find the Digest and
web page as useful; it's always nice to have one's work appreciated.
many were surprised to learn that Dr. Masticola and myself had never
met, let alone talked on the phone :-)  just an interesting artifact
from the on-line world.  i've had many good conversations with those
on the net, and it was very nice to meet them face-to-face!  i had made
some buttons with the 'pipicon' on it (see http://www.pipes.org/pipe.ps)
and handed them out to those i talked with so we could know each other.
lots of people said they visit the web site often (sometimes daily)
and eagerly await each Digest.

an aside: i think it would be fun to get a table at some of the shows for
our extended on-line family.  maybe we could get a local person who has
an account, set up a computer, and show others what we have going.  have
a browser, a news reader, and an IRC client available on the machine.
it would also be a good way to congregate and swap stories and such.
anyone else interested in this?  having Dr. Ray from OOPS there would
be a requirement :-)  if anyone is interested in setting this up,
contact me...

speaking of Dr. Ray, i had an enjoyable dinner with the Tarlers and the
Bromleys Saturday evening (Godspeed Ray, please keep me posted). i guess
the Bromleys spent more time in our fabled Denver International Airport
than i did on this trip :-(  Dr. Ray: send me your snail mail address
and i'll send along a button and a little more change for the dinner...

i had a couple of nice interchanges with Michael Gillman
(????????????????????) one of the new maintainer of the a.s.p FAQ.  he,
and Mark Lathem (?????????????????) are working to make some changes on
the great document that Sami Mikhal (??????????????????) started...

i was able to chat a bit with some of the on-line notables.  John Hayes
and i talked about their new site (http://www.tobac.com/) that Mark
Tinsky (http://www.amsmoke.com/) and John's son have put together,
and what a nice site it is!  i also talked quite a bit with our man
from Martindale pipe furniture, (http://www.seedco.com/pipes/) and got a
very nice pipe/tin rack from him.  i think his stuff is first rate, and
available for very reasonable prices.  he had driven up from Dallas (14
hours!) to attend.  he was sharing a table with Bob Hamlin from the PCCA
(http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rchpcca).  nice pipes there!
Bob and i were able to chat a bit between customers, and i left the
better for it.  Pipes & Tobacco magazine (http://www.pt-magazine.com/)
was there, and i had the opportunity to visit with Chuck Stanion with
whom i had exchanged some email previously.  good folk, and good magazine!
Alberto Bonfiglioli (http://WWW.ITALIA.COM/bonfiglioli/) was in from Italia
and situated between the PCCA table and John Hayes.  he was showing
some wonderful pipes, and i talked with serveral people who thought the
world of him and his pipes.  i didn't practice my Italian with him, to
his great benefit :-)  Jess Chonowitsch was there, with his beautiful
wife and his beautiful pipes.  Nikos Levin (http://www.mja.net/nml/)
had a number of tables with lots of great estate pipes.

i didn't escape without buying three pipes, and a .300 Winchester
Magnum pipe tamper (-: one of my favorite calibers :-)  i've already
misplaced the tamper; if my head wasn't permanently attached and

well, that's enough lines for today.  sorry about the stream of
consciousness nature of this missive, but those who know me have come
to expect it :-)  i'd certainly enjoy hearing others perspective on
the show...

in summary: great time, and it reinforced my opinion that pipe people
are among the best people on earth.

Steve Beaty                                                   ???????????????
Creator and maintainer:                                 http://www.pipes.org/

[ Steve, I second that opinion.  And I think that having a link to
the #pipes IRC channel, preferably on a big screen, would be a great
addition to one of the larger shows. -S. ]

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From: Mitch Shipek (?????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Could anyone tell me where I can order a Zenith clay pipe?
Mitch Shipek

[ Unfortunately, I have no address for Zenith. -S. ]

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From: Alan Waring (??????????????????)
Subject: Williamsburg Clay Churchwarden

Hi Steve,
          Wrote you on Monday about the clays, they arrived yesterday in a
giant box filled with bio-starch peanuts, with the 4 pipes buried within.

Each pipe in its own stout, illustrated box "The Tavern Pipe"  "For The
Best Virginia Weed".

I mentioned the pipes At 10"-12", but came in at 16". The smoke hole is a
bit narrow, so I will initiate it with some fine-cut Virginia Weed from
Three Castles, a briskly burning tobacco.

In spite of the eastern corridor UPS, all pipes arrived intact! The dec-
orative boxes are worth keeping, even if the pipes are mounted on the wall
between smokes.

Many thanks S & S,

Alan Waring

[ Tell me about the eastern corridor UPS, Alan; I'm still waiting on a
new modem! -S. ]

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From: Alan Waring (??????????????????)
Subject: Clay Churchwrdn Revisited

Hi Steve,

I have fired up the Williamsburg Pottery clay (Sat & Sun 19/20), so I can
say the pipes are for more than wall ornament!

In-the-stead-of Three Castle's Virginia weed, I chose McCranie's tin of a
1983 crop of pure red Virginia weed. Said weed burned beautifully.

I had my doubts about the smoke-hole, but it proved quite adequate. A very
cool smoke, I entered a slowly mediative rhythm which lasted for about 
half an hour.

The stem does stick to the lips, so I coated the last inch with a non-
reversible water-based cement(the stuff used for making pads). Wish I
could tell the readers where to get a small supply, as this soft tip made
the pipe that much more pleasing.

I also took a piece of #220 sandpaper to the entire pipe to round off the
edges. Its now like a baby's bottom. Also cut a small lip in the bottom 
of the stem so it hangs just a bit from the lower teeth, thus enabling me
to forget the mechanics and ponder my good fortune.

Best regards,

A. Waring

[ Good notes on clay technique, Alan! -S. ]

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From: Alan Waring (??????????????????)
Subject:  St. Bruno tinned tobacco

Hi Steve,
Well, I've been bitten by the tinned tobacco bug and started a few tins
of divers ilks, of which, St Bruno is numbered.

A very nice blend excepting the artificial perfume flavour. The tin shows
JBRussel as dist.. Is this one of the English tobaccos that has recently
been diddled ala Three Nuns ?

The taste of the perfume is much worse the its odor/fragrace.

Has any tobak guru written anything of late on diddling? Why can't they
leave well enough alone? I suppose some would just rather sink in infamy
than to rise in another's enchanted fragrance. A sad lot!

Alan Waring

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From: Alan Waring (??????????????????)
Subject:  movie on TCM

The following movie will be on Turner Classic Movies on Sat. May 24th

12:00 am THE NITWITS 1935 Two cigar stand attendants get mixed up in a 
murder investigation. Bert Wheeler, Robt. Woolsey, Betty Grable BW 81m.

Hope this makes the Digest before above date.

Regards, A Waring

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Just a quick note to cigar lovers - a local merchant here has come
across a stash from the local Dunhill shop humidors.
Macanudo and Flor de A. allones (high end Ramon Allones)
cigars from early to late
1960's vintage. I was lucky enough to smoke one of each,
and they are killer. I think the asking price is around
$40 or so, and considering that Mac. is selling late seventies
vintage for more, seems fair.
Contact Drucquer & Sons. Tobacconists at 
(510) 525-5682

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From: ?????????????????????????
Subject: Miracles and IRC

Dear Steve,

It's a great delight to share the following news with you and the
readers of PD. It may bring some cheer to those despondent souls who,
like me, are very weary of the anti-tobacco furor here in the U.S.

I live in a small town (pop. 22,000) in central Wisconsin. I was born
here, but during my growing-up lived in different parts of the state.
We returned here in 1969 and have been here since. Then, and until
about 1980, there were several drug/gift stores here which carried a
respectable selection of pipes and tobacco - nothing like a real pipe
shop, but they were better than nothing. Two of these went out of
business in the '80's, and the one remaining decreased their stock
considerably; today they have a small selection of generally crappy
pipes and an even smaller selection of tobacco (Prince Albert,
Amphora, and of course the ubiquitous Captain Black, but also a few of
the mixtures put out by Uhle's in Milwaukee, some of which are quite

A few weeks ago I went downtown to the local bookshop/newsstand, and
what to my amazing eyes should appear there but a bank of wooden and
glass cabinets containing cigars, pipes, tobacco, and imported
cigarettes! I can't say the selection of pipes is great, most of them
are nameless generics in the $20 and under category, and thus far the
only tobacco they're carrying is more of the Uhle's stuff in addition
to a few glass jars of "house" blends which I assume from sniffing
them are the usual heavily-cased aromatics, probably from Lane. So,
there's not a lot there that appeals to me personally, but just the
same my heart was warmed considerably to see that these items are
being offered even in these politically-correct times during which one
would think the last thing anyone would try to sell, especially in a
small town perhaps, is tobacco.

Mirabile dictu, there's more to come. The owners of a local coffee
house are establishing a cigar shop which is to open by the first of
May or thereabouts. I understand from the sign in the window that
"cigars and other tobacco products" will be offered. I assume that
means cigarettes, and maybe some pipes and tobacco as well.

So take heart, everyone - there IS a glimmer of hope. If it can happen
here, it may happen where you live, too.

On another matter, Steve, I don't know whether you ever made it onto
the pipes channel on IRC? If you did, it wasn't while I was on. I
haven't been spending much time there in the past couple of months
because, IMO, the channel - at least for a while - really went to hell
in a handbasket. The people who were showing up seemed much more
interested in playing with the toys in the mIRC software (color, text
boxes, etc.) and the channel seemed to degenerate to "Stupid IRC
Tricks" rather than a discussion of pipes and tobacco. Thankfully, the
tide seems to have turned, and the last few times I've checked in I've
been happy to see that some of the old "regulars" like me who had been
avoiding the channel are coming back. So if you haven't tried to join
us yet, I extend the invitation again (and to all PD readers). Use the
wizlink.dal.net server, BTW. Hope to see you there some evening.

Best wishes,

Bruce R. Beaman
("Spiff" on the IRC pipes channel)

[ Great news! And yes, Bruce, I finally did make it onto IRC, and what
a night it was! -S. ] 

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From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." <??????????????????????>
Subject: Update infor and other blatherings

I know I'm not a frequent contributor, but I read every PD that comes my way.  
Thanks, Steve for the good work.  And thanks to Eeyore for the pipe 
lighters--they are great!

An administrative note--my favorite tobacco shop has moved.  Please add or 
update the entry for Tobacco Village to 1225 Schadt Ave B, Whitehall, PA 
18052.  The phone is (610) 434-1555.  Ron Kern, the proprietor can be reached 
via email at ??????????????????  Ron carries a good selection of tobaccos, 
pipes, and cigars, as well as coffee and homebrewing supplies.  (Ron 
supplies all my vices except one--and that's my wife's province.)  Friday 
nights are informal gatherings at the shop (until I moved it was my 
regular haunt).  Just tell 'em Kevin sent ya!

Also, any Lehigh Valley smokers may be interested in the 5th annual Cigar 
Dinner at the Allentown Hilton, Wednesday May 28 at 6:30 'til the bar closes.  
Wine tasting reception, followed by beef tenderloin dinner, featuring Aston 
cigars and Remy Martin Cognac.  $70.50/ticket.  Contact Tobacco Village.

Finally, watch for the 7th annual cigar smoking contest coming in November.

(By the way--I'm simply a satisfied customer for the past 16 years.  My only 
investment in the shop is what I've spent on pipes and cigars!  <grin>)

Yes, I'm a pipe and cigar smoker, having smoked my pipe for about 16 years and 
cigars for about 7 years.  My collection is modest, containing Ben Wade, 
Peterson, Nording, Boswell, Maestro de Paja, Ser Jacapo, and several other 
briars and meerschaums.

Boswell may be an unfamiliar name to many pipe enthusiasts, but I recommend 
Mike Boswell's work highly.  He is an American pipe maker who produces quality 
pipes that are the easiest to break in.  They smoke well, with the briar 
remaining cool to the touch.  Best of all, they are priced very reasonably.  
My Boswells compare favorably to imports costing twice as much.

Finally, let me share this poem I once found regarding our favorite leaf:

Tobacco, Tobacco (Anonymous, 1605)

Tobacco, tobacco, sing sweetly for tobacco!
	Tobacco is like love, oh love it;
	For you see, I will prove it.

Love maketh lean the fat men's tumour,
	So doth tobacco.

Love still dries up the wanton humour,
	 So doth tobacco.

Love makes men sail from shore to shore,
	 So doth tobacco.

'Tis fond love often makes men poor
	 So doth tobacco.

Love makes men scorn all coward fears,
	 So doth tobacco.

Love often sets men by the ears,
	 So doth tobacco.

	Tobacco, tobacco,
Sing sweetly for tobacco!
Tobacco is like love, oh love it;
For you see, I have proved it.

Thanks for your patience.  Now I'll shut up so I can light up.  <grin>

mailto :??????????????????????  *or*  mailto :???????????????????
PGP Public Key:  http://home.ptd.net/~kknerrsr/bapkey.asc

Where would you like Bill Gates to go today?

[ Shop listing updated, Barthel! I hope it was the Tobacco Village
that was formerly listed in Philadelphia.

And, as a dedicated Linux user, I'd like Mr. Gates to go to the same
place as Koop and Waxman... Thanks for the lyrics; it's been ages
since I heard them! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Greetings Everyone-

Kudos to the Digest-I never miss a copy.  Does anyone out there know where I 
might secure a copy of R C Hacker's "Ultimate Pipe Video"?


Dave S.

[ Contact Richard Hacker at Box 634, Beverly Hills, CA 90213.  I
also occasionally see copies going at shows or from dealers. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????? (Burt R Wolder)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #235 -- April 18, 1997

Dear Steve,

Thanks for another splendid edition of Pipes Digest.  It's a welcome
event when the digest comes along on e-mail, and the global
community of pipe smokers you are facilitating is wonderful to
listen to.  Greece, Italy, colonial Williamsburg!

I'd welcome a steer from the fraternity.  I occasionally buff up
my pipestems on a wheel, using various tripoli and lucite polishing
compounds.  I'd be grateful if any of the readers could refer me to
a source for buying a small block of hard carnuba wax.  A little carnuba
on the polishing wheel is just the thing for restoring the gleam to
the briar bowl.  I had a small piece I've been using for years, but
it's vanished.  And it's just the sort of thing that's impossible to
find at the local hardware store, or indeed anywhere.

Thanks for the great work; when you come up with a way of
capturing smoke rings on e-mail, we'll be ready for the new

--Burt Wolder

[ Stemco-Pimo, listed in the Guide,  should have the hard carnauba wax. -S. ] 

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From: ??????????????? (Bill Sempf)
Subject: The changing face of the Tobacco world [Pipe]

        We have all seen what has happened in the Wonderful World of
Cigars.  Massive popularity.  Clubs, smoking parties, organization after
organization devoted to the art of smoking cigars.  CA, at first something
of a joke, has enjoyed immense popularity.  Cigars on the Internet has
become amazing.  I believe that the recent boom in Cigar smoking, everyone
will agree, is nothing short of incredible.

        However, we have seen the darker side.  One in every three Cubans
is counterfiet.  The standard brands can't keep up with demand, and quality
is suffering due to attempted improvements in age old production methods.
New, get-rich-quick firms are taking their place in the market, preying on
novice smokers; smokers that can't understand why their more experienced
counterparts seem to enjoy their cigars much more.  Our local smoke shops,
where one used to be able to walk in and smoke a Hemmingway in peace, are
beleagured by brands that seem to change every day.  There is little or no
constistancy in any brand.  Those of us who have been smoking for years are
grouped with many 'new', perhaps less polite, smokers that are damaging the
reputation of the cigar smoker.  Perhaps the market is booming, but some of
this I could do without.

        My question is this.  Is this starting to happen to the pipe world?
In Columbus, three new cigar shops have appeared in the last 12 months -
all of them carrying questionable brands of pipes and tobaccos.  Oh, the
standards are there, Pipes and Pleasures and Barclay especially catering to
the more discriminating pipe smoker.  But the quality seems to be lacking
in much of the tobacco especially, and many of my old favorite blends seem
to be missing flavor and spice.

        Does anyone know of the Pipe Tobacco market?  Are we suffering -
perhaps more quietly - from the same problems afflicting cigar smokers?  Is
there any word of shortage, a sudden increase in demand or decrease in
production time?  I would appreciate any response - this is hopefully the
subject of the next Fire Away in the Agricultural and Mechanical Gazette!
And, as always, gentlemen; I remain faithfully

        Bill Sempf

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From: Steve Masticola (??????????????????)
Subject: TV news and the Web

There was some serious tobacco-bashing and hatred-spreading this week
on the part of the ABC Evening News.  Including some implications that
other independent web pages (notably Ed Dambik's) are actually being
run as advertising outlets by the cigarette companies.

In Ed's case, I know for a fact that this implication is false.  Had
Ed been asked, he would surely have also refuted it.  The fact that
ABC implied what it did points out the shallowness and shoddiness of
their investigations.

Because this happened, though, I feel obliged to make a statement
before it becomes a problem for us.

Listen up, reporters: I hereby state for the record that the Pipes
Digest is the work solely of individuals who enjoy the moderate use of
fine tobacco.  We are _not_ the paid (or unpaid) zombies of PM, RJR,
et. al.  They probably don't even know we exist.

And we don't link their pages, because it's Digest policy not to
condone illegal or addictive behavior in any form.  Our watchwords as
fine-tobacco enthusiasts are "moderation" and "enjoyment."  We smoke
because we _like_ to, not because we _have_ to.

End of rant. :-)  Time, once again, to

				Smoke in peace,
				~\U Steve.

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From: David Pottier <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #235 -- April 18, 1997

At 20:48 19/04/97 -0800, you wrote:

It has arrived. 1/12th of an ounce or about 25,000 seeds or about enough
for a llot of acres.   With a yeild of about 2500 pounds per acre that's
not a bad cash savings.  But I'm only growing a few dozen plants. :-)

>                 Pipes Digest #235 -- April 18, 1997
>My Burley strain is coming from:

>- F.W. Rickard Seeds Inc.
>- 606-744-4191 - Most  Excellent Service and knowledgeable
>- Catalog Available

>[ Thanks for the growing list of seed companies!  And, yes, we have some
>nicotiana planned for the flower garden; it has a wonderful fragrance,
>in addition to its other qualities! -S. ]

Nicotiana (alata and sylvestris)  varities and the tobacco plant (Nicotiana
tobacum) are differrent animals.  Garden variety Nicotiana (alata) is a wee
plant with fragrant blooms while the smoking variety is a 7 foot high
monster that you wouldn't want as a garden border.  Heck, you'd never find
you neighbours house though the foliage.  Then again maybe it would make a
nice border. :-)

Her's some more on:

Contact:  Ray Meeks - Most Helpful  - Do mention the reference came fom
David Pottier. :-)
Marketing Director
Rickard Seeds
Fax 606-744-4202

They have 24 strains of tobacco seed and specialize in  Burley.   They  are
pelleted seed producers and I feel it would be better for the average back
yard grower to simply order a dozen Burley pellets unless you feel that you
could plant and harvest 25,000 seeds this year. :-)

David POTTIER                    Public Education and Training Coordinator
???????????????????????????????  Victoria FreeNet Association
                                 Victoria   BC     Canada

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From: ?????????????????? (John Paine)
Subject: shops in Vancouver

Steve:  Another lovely number of PD.  You do a great job!  --Now that there
is a pipe club in Vancouver, I wonder whether there are pipe shops there
that would merit a visit.  --I've looked, but I don't find much in the
Thanks, John

[ The Resource Guide lists Clarkes R.J. Tobacconist on Alexander St.,
but that's the only one. -S. ]

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From: "Bill Thacker" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Tobacco Recipes

David Pottier wrote:

> Does anyone have any info/recipes on flavoring sauces for pipe tobacco?

Here are some of my favorite tobacco recipes.  Bon apetite!


Whiskey Sweet-and-Sour Salad:  Toss a good whiskey cavendish blend 
with your favorite dressing, perhaps a nice raspberry vinaigrette, 
Serve with croutons so your guests will know they're supposed to eat it.  

Montezuma's Revenge:  Use any Central American tobacco, in whole
leaves.  Lay leaves flat and cover with diced habanero peppers (use
jalapenos if you want survivors).  Roll like a burrito, and serve with
a thick sauce of guacamole and Pepto-Bismol.  Montezuma's Revenge is a
dish which is best served cold.  


Nicotine Tureen:  A good soup for a formal banquet.  Start with a
basic beef broth, and add shredded Latakia and pipe ash to thicken.
For a special presentation, serve using a clay pipe for a ladle.  For
an extra-special presentation, use a clean pipe.

Lobster Humidor:  Your basic lobster bisque, served steaming hot in
hardwood bowls over a bed of whole tobacco leaves.  Garnish with cigar
bands (imported, of course!) and wear bibs.


Chicago-Style Deep-Cavendish Pizza:  Perfect for poker parties.  
Prepare your favorite deep-dish pizza, adding a thick layer of cherry 
cavendish between the pepperoni and the mozzarella.  A good dish to
serve when you're ahead in the poker game.

Virginia Flake-n-Bake: Adds a special touch to a southern classic, and
as a bonus, with no extra saturated fat!  Place Virginia flake 
tobacco, salt and pepper in a zip-lock bag.  Add chicken pieces.  
Shake to coat, then bake as usual.  Good for picnics and other 
events that don't involve carpet.

Tar Sue Gai: A Chinese classic!  Make a batter of your
favorite tobacco, egg, and flour.  Use this to coat chicken breasts,
then deep-fry them.  Serve sliced, with brown sauce over rice.
Garnish with pipe cleaners shaped to resemble birds or flowers.


Chique Perique Meringue:  Soak 1/2 ounce of perique in white wine 
at overnight (or up to one weeque) then remove the solids, squeezing
to save all the liquid.  Heat this in a saucepan or squillet over low
heat until reduced to a qureamy quonsistency.  Chill quiquely.  Beat
egg whites to stiff peaques, and fold into the thique liquid using a
forque.  Baque at 350 degrees for 8-10 minutes until qurisp.  

Hurley-Burley Torte:  Use your favorite fine-chopped burley tobacco
to dust a chocolate-raspberry torte.  To emphasize the aroma, this is
best served flambe'.  

Cherry Cordials:  A variant of "riteous brownies", but using Cherry
cavendish tobacco instead of the, er, "alternative smoking materials"
preferred by the Woodstock generation.  

Turkish Coffee:  Make regular coffee, adding 1/2 ounce of Latakia to
the coffee grounds.  Pour the coffee into a saucepan and hold on low
heat for 6-8 hours, until thick and syrupy.  Best served in small cups
at gunpoint.

Any of these dishes are more enjoyable when served with wine.  It
doesn't matter whether it's white or red, domestic or imported, corked,
boxed, or capped.  The important element is the quantity -- the more
wine you serve, the better these will taste.  Start with two to three
bottles per person and increase as needed. 

DISCLAIMER:  The Surgeon General would have a calf if he read these
recipes.  Don't try this at home, or anywhere else.  In fact, you
shouldn't even be reading this, it will probably give you some
terrible eye disease or something.  Don't drink and drive.  Don't even
drive.  And stop staring, it's bad for your eyes.  Quit slouching.

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Bill Thacker            Lucent Technologies    Network Wireless Systems
????????????????????        (614) 860-5294               Columbus, Ohio       

[ And you should buy some new underwear, what if God forbid you were
in an accident and they saw all those holes?  -S. ]

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From: "Bill Thacker" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Perique

While doing some research for another Pipes Digest article I 
discovered, that "Perique" has a rather colorful etymology.  

According to my Webster's Dictionary, the name is widely believed to
allude to Pierre Chenet, who introduced tobacco farming to French 
colonists in Louisiana.  Webster's says this is mistaken, and that in
fact "perique" is a French-accented corruption of "prick" (an English
vulgarity for "penis," for our international readers), a name earned
because of the shape of the dry plugs of tobacco.  

This suggests that perique should never be added to Virginia tobacco,
lest the latter's unique properties be lost.  :-)

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Bill Thacker            Lucent Technologies    Network Wireless Systems
???????????????????????     (614) 860-5294               Columbus, Ohio       
          "Giving money and power to government is like giving 
	 whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." - P.J. O'Rourke

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From: Philip Richards <??????????????????????????????>
Subject: Some Observations on the UK Scene


>> How's the club scene in the UK, though?  Arguably, the amateurs are
pulling the U.S. pipe market out of a long decline. <<

If you are referring to pipe clubs throughout the UK there are a few
scattered around. About a year a go I made investigations with probably the
most well known one of all, The Pipe Club of London. Working in London some
40 miles from my home would have made the ideal location to what I
*thought* would be the ideal chance to join up with fellow pipesmokers for
a smoke in an informal environment and perhaps the chance to meet others
especially those under 40 like myself!

So I wrote off for details but was disappointed to say the least to get a
reply back from their Press & Publicity Officer who actually admitted that
"Young people don't smoke pipes". In response to my question regarding how
the UK pipe and pipe tobacco industry is trying to "recruit" new customers
(for which I reckon young cigarette smokers are a potential market) his
response was "the industry has respectively not the resources or
inclination to promote pipesmoking to young cigarette smokers". 

Suffice to say I opted not to enrol and my own personal experience of
promoting pipesmoking via clubs seems to be non existent. Perhaps others
know of better ones, though I gather pipe clubs are to be found at some
colleges and universities which would have a younger element amongst its

With the pipe and pipe tobacco industry doing very little to market their
products to new customers, Dave Chambers is very in true in saying that the
retailers are doing their utmost to keep the pastime alive. Every little
bit of information comes in handy and the annual publication published by
the Pipesmoker's Council "Pipesmoker's Welcome" is always worth waiting

I can only hope that the growing trend from across the Atlantic will drift
over here to Britain. Once the word gets around and this dreadful attitude
that pipes are only for the older generation disappears perhaps we will see
a revival which is long over due.


E-mail ??????????????????????????????

[ OK, let's throw it open to the membership: are there any lively and
active pipe clubs in England? If not, there are certainly room for
some, and I'd be glad to carry any announcements here! -S. ]

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From: Steve Beaty <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Pipers in Hamburg?


????????????????????????? wrote to me and said:
by coincidence I found your pipe-page. Good to see that there are more
people who love to smoke pipe and check out the internet.
Unfortunately I am based in Hamburg, Germany. Do you have any contacts to
folks in my area as I would like to start something like a regular
pipe-smoker's meeting here in Hamburg.

        is there anyone in Hamburg who can help him out?  thanks,

Steve Beaty                                                   ???????????????
Creator and maintainer:                                  http://www.pipes.org

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From: Bijan Kafi <?????????????????????>
Subject: Looking for people and new pipe mag in Germany

Dear pipe-enthusiasts!

Since it has been quite some time since I last sent a note to the Digest, I
just decided to do so again now, to find some passionate pipe smokers in
Germany or the German/English-speaking Europe to have some chats with. I am
a 22 year old student of the humanities and philosophy at the University of
Heidelberg. Although I have only a very small collection of pipes yet, I do
enjoy trying new flavours of tobaccos frequently. I, personally, prefer the
English tobaccos like NIGHTCAP, ERINMORE or FINEST BRITISH. However, I do
like the richly flavoured ones too. I would like to find some people who
share my passion and would like to share some letters too, just to chat
about all those wonderful stuff around pipes, tobaccos etc., etc...

So, if one of you would like to contact me, please go ahead. I am sure
we'll find enough to talk about.

And here's another note that I'd like to share with all of you, if you
haven't heard about it yet. Since April, we Germans have got our own Pipe
magazine! It's (strange enough!) called "PIPE & CIGAR" and is being
published every four months. It looks as if it's some kind of German "Cigar
Afficionado". The content is not only professionally photographed and
written, it also provides the smoker with a lot of information, first and
foremost addresses of dealers in entire Europe. It is definitely worth the

Wish you the best and happy smoking in the future,


Bijan Kafi, ?????????????????????, 69117 Heidelberg, Deutschland

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From: Brian Pruitt (?????????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Are there any pipe smokers in the Evansville, IN - Henderson, KY area?
I am thinking of smoking a pipe.  I want to be shown how to smoke a
pipe right.  And to use a pipe tool, to clean it, and etc.  If there
is anybody who is in the area, please e-mail me.  Thanks to all who

Brian Pruitt
Henderson, KY

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From: "luiz whately" <?????????????????????>

Hi Steve,

[ Possible flames edited. -S. ]

[...] the language of Dante, Petrarca, Da Vinci,etc., is also the
language of the finest pipe makers in the world; or hasn't he heard of
Castello (oh!  Castellos...), Ceppo, Mastro, Ser Jacopo, Amorelli,
Viprati, Radice, just to mention a few of the best (Bob Hamlin could
help me here).  [...] Although Portuguese is my native language (and a
Latin one), Italian is as difficult to me as German or any other
language.  If I were to receive a message in Chinese, I would welcome
it and look up someone to have it traslated !

Smoke in peace,

Luiz A. Whately

[ And, in fact, our German, Latin, etc. speaking members have helped
us out here with translations, too!  As you said, the spirit of the
net is, at the best of times, the spirit of the American Indian peace
pipe ceremony -- one of friendship and contemplation. -S. ]

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From: Brent A. Barmore (?????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hi Steve....You do a excellent service to all us pipe smokers via the
digest...I love reading it..

I have a question in regards to two pipes that I just got at a lawn

#1.pipe: on the shank? it is stamped "STYLEBILT". On the stem there 
are two dots side by side which are inlaid. 

#2.pipe: A very beautiful pipe with a gold band  around
the bowl rim and a gold band where the stem joins the shank. The 
gold is stamped 14k plated. The pipe is marked MLO in a oval circle
and "Redmanol" on the shank. This pipe also has a amber stem. The
pipe came with a case which is marked SNB in a square along with 

If anyone could help with any info about these two pipes..I sure
would really appreciate the info.  Thank you for your time, 
consideration and the Pipes Digest.    Brent A. Barmore 

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From: Jimmy Waynick (???????????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

First I would like to introduce myself. My name is Jimmy Waynick and I
am 51 years old from Savannah, GA.  I am retired from the US Army, and
work as a Fire/Rescue Dispatcher for the City Fire Department.  I am
another newbie to pipe smoking, infact my 1 month anniversary will
come in a couple of days.  I attempted to take up pipe smoking once
before, about 15 years ago, but it was a total disaster.  Fortunately,
thanks to your publication, my current attempt is going quite well.
Needless to say, I am still in the "drug store" stage of my new hobby,
but, with the information I am getting from the digest I hope to
progress up thru the ranks at a rapid pace.  I have subscribed to the
digest, and will look forward to each and every issue.  I just want to
say thanks for the help so far in making my pipe smoking "career" as
enjoyable and pleasureable as it is thus far.  I didn't know that
there were organizations such as pipe smoking clubs, etc, but I hope
there is one here in Savannah, or at least southeast Georgia, that I
can get involved with.  Again, thank you and I shall get back to
reading some more of the past issues.

[ Glad to know we've been of service, Jimmy! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: information

I'm going to be opening a retail pipe and tobacco store soon in the 
Tacoma, WA area and would be interested in hearing from others what 
THEY would like to see at their local tobacconists, (products, 
information, smoking areas,).  Any help would be greatly apreciated.
Ernie Sanchez

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From: Barney Kleist (??????????????????????)
Subject: Identify That Corncob!

EDWARD ABBEY, by James Bishop, Jr. (c1994, Atheneum, ISBN
0-689-12195-4), has a photo on the dust jacket of Ed Abbey with a
corncob pipe.  Can anyone tell the make of this pipe?  It looks like
it might be a corncob of good quality (assuming this is not an
oxymoron).  --Barney Kleist

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From: Ian Highway (?????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Dear Steve,

I just wanted to drop you this short line before I ran out to buy more
computer paper and another ink cartdridge for my printer. I have been
busy printing out the Pipe Digest Resource guide along with several
issues of the Guide, enjoying a bowel or two of Blatter and Blatter
St. Hilaire at the same time. My name is Ian Highway and I live in the
fair city Montreal. I have recently returned to smoking my pipes as
opposed to cigarettes. My small collection of Brigham pipes has slowly
growen to include a beatuiful Blatter model as well as a sweet smoking
meerschaum that I accquired at a mall "tobacco shop" for the grand sum
of $50.00 Canadian. The young man behind the counter was more intent
on selling lottery tickets and newspapers than pipes and I can
honestly saw that when he offered the pipe to me for such a low price,
there was not a second of hesitation on my part.  I do however have a
question that one of the other members may be able to help me
with. This past weekend I was strolling through a flea market and
spied a rather strange looking corn cob pipe. It has a long bowel,
three inches long, with a curved stem that appears to be made of dark
brown lucite. The stem has two buldges in the middle. On the bottom of
the bowel is stamped "Missouri Original Meerschaum" A small engraved
brass plate came with it. It reads" An Americian Heritage......the
original Missouri Merschaum Corn Cob Pipe...unique to the United
States of america. As well there is a small crest engraved on the
lower left hand corner with the trade mark of the company. I realize
that corn cob pipes are not a rare thing but I have never seen one
shaped like this. It has been smoked but it is in excellent
condition. I picked this pipe up for the grand total of $5.00 and was
wondering it is is still made in this shape today. I do not plan on
smoking it but rather placing it beside my pipe rack. Any help on 
this pipe would be appreciated.
Thanking you in advance,

Ian Highway
Montreal quebec

[ The maker was undoubtedly the Missouri Meerschaum Company, which is
listed in the Guide.  Sounds like a commemorative issue of some
sort. -S. ]

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From: Rob Denholtz <???????????>
Subject: Sovereign Pipe

Hi Steve,

   I wonder if you or any of the Digesters can provide me with some 
information on a superb pipe I recently acquired.  The pipe looks like an 
Autograph and smokes like an Autograph.  Fine straight grain (360 
degrees) with prominent growth rings all around. Smooth birdseye rim.  
Lightly stained...a little on the orange side.  The stem is a little 
fancy...Danish-like; vulcanite.  The pipe bears the stamp "SOVEREIGN."  
NO other markings...no country of origin...no logo...just "SOVEREIGN" in 
upper case block letters.  I'd appreciate any comments which might be 
forthcoming.  Thanks.  Rob Denholtz

[ Not "Danish Soverign"? -S. ]

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From: Rob Denholtz <???????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #235 -- April 18, 1997

Hi Steve,

Another question . . . raised by one of my customers....I was unable to 
answer.  We want to know if the Comoy "Grand Slam" was named after Bobby 
Jones's golfing feat.  Anybody know?


Rob Denholtz
20 Clover Hill Drive
Poughkeepsie, NY 12603

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From: Jennifer & Paul <?????????????????????????????????>

Dear Pipes Digest,

My pipe collection has recently expanded, after a visit to a local antique
shop.  For ten dollars, I purchased a small, elegant pipe stamped
"Fireside," "Made in Denmark," "Handcut Briar," and "79."  The wood is
beautiful and perhaps very old, with a remarkable birdseye pattern separated
from the fine straight grains at the precise center ridge along the bottom
-- obviously carved with this nice symmetry in mind.  Since you and your
readers are very knowledgable, perhaps somebody may know a thing or two
about this brand of pipe.  I strongly suspect that I have found a gem amid
the commonplace.  Thanks for any help!  Kindest regards,

Jennifer Lindblad

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From: Jennifer & Paul <?????????????????????????????????>

Dear Steve,

While most questions from beginners about pipes and smoking can ultimately
be answered through experience (and reading "The Pipe Smoker's Ephemeris"),
the following question is not so easily answered.  We hope that this letter
finds you in good spirits, and with a few free minutes to respond.  

In "The History of the Pipe," by Liebaert and Maya, there was some alarming
news about Turkish meerschaums: without the boxwood fittings (as opposed to
the plastic fittings currently used in Turkey) and a proper bath in whale
oil (not used in Turkey), your expensive, beautifully carved Turkish
meerschaum pipe is practically worthless.  Why?  Because the plastic
fittings "alter the taste of the tobacco," and without whale oil, which
constantly and indefinitely cleanses the meershaum while you smoke, the pipe
will soon lose its absorbency and become "saturated" and "unsmokable."   The
only solution, it seems, is to purchase a meerschaum from Philippe Bargiel,
of France, who, with great difficulty, makes them the old-fashioned way.  

Well, here is the question: is this true?  If Turkish meerschaums are doomed
to such failure when it comes to smoking pleasure, why is this the first
I've ever heard of it?  We have read books, articles, and spoken to several
pipe salesmen, including the one who sold us a $160 Turkish meerschaum, and
never heard a word about it, or even a romantic reference to the "good old
days when meerschaums were meerschaums."  Is the lack of alternatives due to
Turkish export laws the reason why people are simply making due with
third-rate meerschaum smoking?  Have they forgotten what it was like to
smoke a meerschaum that didn't taste like plastic fittings, or quickly
became saturated and unsmokable?  Or is this "tragedy" largely the
propaganda of a very business-minded meerschaum pipe producer in France?

Thank you very much!  //Jennifer Lindblad and Paul Terry

[ I'd probably chalk it up to snob appeal.  Analogy: this weekend, I
was in the market for a coffee grinder.  There are two basic kinds:
blade and burr grinders.  The latter is supposed to be marginally
better for espresso, but sells for ten times the price of the former.
This despite the fact that a burr grinder is mechanically no more
complicated than an electric pencil sharpener.  Go figure...   Though
a true meerschaum expert might say differently, and probably will! -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????? (Thomas A. Hendricks)
Subject: No bad blood

I must say how very happy I am to be writing to you from my own home...after
who knows how many months of complaining (22 months and 2 days, but who's
counting?) a local internet provider has enabled me to connect from my own
home...there's still no Web Browser, but I digress...
I am, for the first time ever, smoking a pipe while sending email (which I
don't believe I'll ever take for granted)  The pipe in question here is a
reddish-colored Knute (a purchase from the Chicago show :-P )  This leads me to
my questions...1)

    1) I have seen many Knutes and own four myself--all red...are there any out
there which are not red?
    2) When I smoke, the pipe spends about 2/3 of the time in my hand and I
have noticed that many of my reddish pipes, regardless of maker, tend to
"bleed", though in most cases it will wash off easily.  I never have this
problem with my other pipes of various tan, brown, and black shades...why do
pipes of this particular color "bleed?"  Not a big deal, I suppose, rather
annoying, though...sorta like those "spray paint" maduro Kings #13 cigars I
complained about a while back (only that didn't come off for about a week!)

Any input would be greatly appreciated...TIA,

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From: Rod Iffinger (????????????????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

I have smoked pipes on and off for just over twenty years
 and along the way have accumulated one or two per year. 
A message in the last Digest about "Drugstore Pipes" made
 me sit back and think about the pipes I smoke. 
I've a couple of Dunhills, lots of Petersens, a Kirsten and
 numerous others but in all honesty my favourite pipe is
 one of the first I bought when I was still a teenager. 
It is a Varsity in a bent Rhodesian style - well burnt and 
well chewed but it's never been sour and never burnt my mouth.
Hopefully it will serve me as well another forty years!
I'd also like to express my appreciation for the web page - 
from it I bought my Kirsten (totally unheard of in Australia
 and a real attention getter!)and it enabled me to get in 
touch with Craig from Cornell & Diehl who has been great
 in helping me to get tobacco at a fraction of what we
 normally pay in this country. Thanks Guys!

Rod Iffinger

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From: ??????????? (Mark Tinsky)
Subject: tobac web site

Hi All,
I d like to announce the opening of www.tobac.com a site devoted to pipes,
cigars, tobacco and accessories. Very user friendly, it has on line
ordering through a convenient shopping cart and secure credit card ordering
form.  We have a large selection of estate as well as new pipes and cigars.
If you have the chance please check us out. Thanks, Mark Tinsky

Mark Tinsky
HC-88 Box 223
30 Tall Oaks
Pocono Lake, PA. 18347
 web address:

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From: Michael George <?????????????????????>
Subject: Finally got Birthday Kirsten!

Hello everyone!

I'm sending this mail to everyone who responded months ago to my
question about experience with Kirsten pipes and also to Kirsten with
my comments and thoughts on the Kirsten pipe.  (I then thought I'd
post it to the pipes digest, in case anyone else should find this

Thank you all again for you input.  It was all very helpful in making
my decision.  Of course some of the information was contradictory, but
generally it had to do with personal preferences which will vary.

I had heard great things about the turnaround on the orders, but I
didn't order this one myself, my wife did for my birthday.  I asked
her though about how long it took to arrive... she thought it was 2-3
days.  Amazingly fast!

Along with the pipe, I also got the Kirsten reamer for it.  This is
not your simple little $2 butner.  The reamer is $8, but definitely
worth it.  This is a high-quality, massive, tool.  It is hardened tool
steel with a knurled brass knob (similar in shape to the knob on the
speed loaders for my .357) and 6 cutting edges.  This thing looks like
it will *never* wear out.  And if it did get dull, I think our local
machine shop could resharpen it for me.  I think this might be
identical to the tool-bits they use to bore the bowls to start with!
Very impressive!

Now for the pipe.  I got a large 1/4 bent with a grey lucite bit and
an XL Mandarin bowl in Walnut matte finish.  The bowl was different
than I expected.  I have not noticed any fills, but there are three
places on it where the nat- ural "grooves" of the briar were not
removed by the shaping of the bowl, but they are not filled.  This
surprised me, but I really like it.  It gives the bowl very nice
character.  Perhaps my expectations were erroneous and this is how it
*should* be, but either way, I like it.

I was hoping the lucite bit would be darker with less swirlies in it,
but cest la vie.  Not a disappointment by any means.

I like the stem so far.  It is just as I thought it would be.  If I
were to order again, I think I would get a medium or large bowl rather
than the XL.  The bowl really dominates the stem, but that doesn't
bother me.  What I don't like is how heavy that bowl is out on the end
of that fulcrum.  Trying to hold the pipe in my teeth out straight is
tiring.  However, if I let it dangle it's not too bad.  However, this
tips the stem to about the same angle as a full- bent and has the bowl
leaned way forward.  Hopefully this won't hurt the bowl at all.  What
I think I will do is order a full-bent next with a medium bowl and
just swap the bowls when I get it.  Perhaps the extra heft of the XL
bowl will be better held by the full-bent.

I am still having some trouble with the packing and lighting, perhaps
some can offer suggestions.  The pamphlet suggests filling the bowl
and packing it very tightly.  What I've done is fill bowl, pack, add
more, pack, etc, until it is tightly packed to the top of the bowl and
then lit.  This is then very hard to light, as drawing is restricted
and the draw at the top of that nice cavernous bowl is next to
nothing, so the flame won't light the tobac well.  Perhaps I shouldn't
fill tightly packed to the top of the bowl?

I've also heard some people say to pack the bowl and then use the
reamer to poke a hole through to the draw hole.  This definitely
allows for more draft and easier lighting, but perhaps that is just
compensating for my packing the bowl *too* tightly...

While smoking the pipe gets comfortably warm, which is good.  However,
I will still get a slight bit of gurgle once in a while, and it seems
to be when I have the pipe at more of a "dangling angle".  This may be
fluid around the draft hole in the stem, or also in the bowl.  I am
wondering if perhaps the condensate is tending toward the front of the
bowl rather than through the hole and that is causing the gurgling...
That might cause the bowl to get wetter than intended, too.

I've also found that it is not impossible to draw a bit of moisture
through the mouthpiece.  But this is by no means usual, and I think it
is probably a result of my smoking too fast.  My guess is that some
moisture will condense on the ramrod portion of the stem and it gets
drawn through if I smoke too quickly.

I have had to re-light the Kirsten, but not nearly as much as other
pipes.  When I re-light, I need to dump out the ash that has
accumulated, as expected.  How- ever, so I need to tamp the remaining
tobacco?  In a straight-walled pipe, one does have to, but with the
tapered walls, perhaps I should leave well enough alone and just
re-light?  If I do tamp, I have the draft hole closed up again and I
have to reopen it with the reamer and that pushes tobacco into the
stem and...  It seems that it would be better to just re-light if that
will work.

Finally, should there be any dottle left in the bowl?  I have had some
so far, but there are too many other techniques I have to master
before I will be very concerned about this one.

Overall, I am quite satisfied with the Kirsten.  I would appreciate
any advice anyone has to give, and definitely need more practice, for
a Kirsten is very different than other pipes.

Thank you all who have have responded to my questions, to all who will
respond to these newest questions, and to Kirsten for producing such a
fine smoking instrument!

-Michael George

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
                -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

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From: Michael George <?????????????????????>
Subject: IMCO lighter

Hello, all!

I just got a little butane refillable IMCO pipe lighter for my
birthday.  It's a neat little thing, and I like that it's refillable.
However, it's not readily apparent if one can change the flints on it.
Do any of you out there know if that's possible?  If so, how?

Also, I've heard some concerns that butane is a very hot flame and that it
can scorch a pipe?  Is this a valid concern?  What can I do to minimize that
possibility (I don't want to not use it or return it, it was a gift from my
little sister)?

Thanks for the info, and thanks for a great list, Steve!


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
                -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

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From: Mike Penix (?????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

I still have some HIGH GRADE pipes to trade!  I am looking for
curved/bent models.  Preferred manufacturers are Castello, Dunhill,
Becker, Ashton, Peterson, Caminetto, etc.  If you care to swap lists,
please e-mail me.  My list gets your list.  Many thanks to Barry
Schenker who is also a reputable trader of briar!  Traders: LET ME

Mike Penix

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From: ?????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I used to smoke a flake tobacco that came in a tin.  The tin itself
had a "green colored top".  I thought it was 'Bengal Slices', but I
don't remember the tobacco having latakia in it. Can someone please
refresh my memory?  Someone recently informed me that 'Bengal Slices'
had a good amount of latakia in it. The tobacco (virginia flake) I am
referring to was predominantly Virginia and in the flake form. It was
readily available in the 1980's.  The green top was almost black


[ I have a can of Bengal Slices right here, but the can looks black!
Wait a minute... stop the presses!  Stop the presses! -S. ]

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From: ?????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I recently posted an article requesting information on a "dark-green" lidded, 
tinned tobacco.  Whilst mowing my lawn today, I remembmered the name of the
blend that I so enjoyed; Gallahers 'Rich Dark Honeydew'.  It was in the 
flake form and it was my one of my favorite blends in the mid 1908's.

Is the Gallaher "Honeydew" still available? Who can I order it from?

For those who knew the answer (from my previous post on this very digest), 
all I can say is *Thanks* and "What a wonderful tobacco it was"!

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From: Tony Casciato <??????????????????????>
Subject: [Pipes] Personal Update


Yesterday (April 30) I walked out of my office for the last time. After one
career as a Naval Flight Officer and a second as an Information Systems
Analyst, yesterday was my last working day. As of today I am retired.

I have two new pipes that I bought for myself as retirement presents. They
have been waiting until today to fulfill their promise. The first is a Mark
Tinsky Unique Bent natural finish, basically a pot with a bent stem. This is
my third Tinsky pipe and I am looking forward to this one smoking as great
as the first two. Actually, after I ordered this pipe my wife said she would
pay for it. The second pipe is a Pioneer Calabash purchased from L.J.
Peretti co. I received very fast service from them. As you can see I am
planning some relaxed smoking.

I have just made a stand for the calabash out of a piece of cherry wood that
I have had for years and am now in the process of finishing it.

I also have several sample sizes of C&D tobacco that I have been saving
until retirment so I can give them a proper evaluation. I removed each
sample from the zip-lock bags and packed each in a Ball half pint canning
jar. The jars seal airtight and are perfect for 1-1/2 to 2 ounces of tobacco.

My wife has no problem with my smoking in the house except she was worried
about the smoke particles settling on her dolls & teddy bears, she has 237
dolls 38 teddy bears scattered around the house. I purchased a Honeywell
Enviracare 63500 Portable Air Cleaner. They are not cheap but they are very
effective. I had just finished smoking a pipe and you could see the smoke in
the rays of sun coming through the windows. Then I turned on the air cleaner
and within 15 minutes you could no longer see any smoke. Now, whenever I get
ready to smoke in the house, I turn on the air cleaner and smoke without any
worry about the dolls. Again - relaxed smoking.

With more time on my hands I plan to attend my first pipe show in October,
the CORPs 13th Annual Pipe Smokers Exposition & Celebration in Richmond, VA.
In addition to seeing (buying) pipes, I hope to be able to meet a lot of the
people that I have so far anly met on the Web. I am certainly looking
forward to it. My wife and I attend several doll shows each year and, while
she has no interest in a pipe show, she agreed that the household money
would be appropriate to bankroll the pipes show expenses as well as the doll
show expenses.

Take care and keep putting out your wonderful digest. I have a hard time
waiting for each issue to come out.

        Tony Casciato            ??????????????????????
           Hang in there...   You can outlast them...

[ Congratulations on your new career, Tony!  Enjoy! -S. ]

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From: Nick Goldberg (??????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

From August, I shall be starting a year-long work placement in Hilton
Head Island, SC. I would be very grateful if any readers of Pipes
Digest who know the area could perhaps email me and tell me about the
tobacco related resources in that area.


Nick Goldberg,    email   ??????????????????

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From: Robert Hall <?????????????????>
Subject: Santa Fe Tobacconist

I found Steve's account of his trip to Santa Fe and Taos interesting
since my wife and I had been there just after Christmas.  If you go to
Taos, be sure and take the Taos Pueblo tour.

I also found the Santa Fe Cigar Company, and even better, a really nice
shop with lots of pipes and tobaccos (& cigars), too:  Stag Tobacconists
of New Mexico.  It's at 197 De Vargas Mall, Santa Fe, NM  87501 /

They have a much bigger shop, with a much better selection of pipes, and
bulk and tinned tobaccos, than anything in the Dallas area.  Prices are
reasonable, and they mail order.  Well worth a visit or call.

I tried several of their blends and came home with a pound of Coyote

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of 
  human freedom.  It is the argument of tyrants;
  it is the creed of slaves."  --William Pitt, 1783

[ They must be a chain; we also have listings for "Stag Tobacconist"
in Albuquerque and Phoenix. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: intro


Thanks for including me in your mailing list. I've been reading past
issues for a month or so, about 200 down and around 70 to go. You've
done a spectacular job and thanks for the great read.

I'm a 43 year old quality engineer. My wife, Marsha, and I just
celebrated our 20th wedding aniversery. Marsha has been and
enthusiastic supporter of my pipe smoking hobby. She appreciates the
aroma of latakia but dislikes the smell of heavy aromatics -- great
for me. Somewhere near 30 of my pipes came as gifts from her. We have
two male children ages 5 and 6. Both kids are intrigued with all my
pipe smoking parafanalia.

I've been smoking pipes (mostly) and cigars for about twenty years,
not counting dabbling in pipes when I was in high school. Over the
years, I've collected 60 or 100 pipes. I must have thought Larsons
were an exceptional value in my earlier smoking days since I have
about two dozen of these. My modest collection also has pipes from
sevaral manufacturers including Savenelli (one autograph), Costello,
early Ben Wade, Jobey, Nording, Miccoli, Camenetto, Tyner, others, and
a straight grain Prebem Holm Private Collection from the mid-seventies
with bird's eye on the top so tight it makes you want to cry. The
collection includes the obligatroy dozen or so merschaums, three
calibashes and a giant Ropp cheery wood. In my younger days, I leaned
toward the poker shape but now I seem to prefer large freehands with
lots of wood. Lately, I've been carving my own.

In tobaccos, my taste runs toward the naturals. I've been extremely
fond of Mclelland's since they first came out (mid-seventys ?). Thanks
to the web, I found Cornll and Diehl -- what wonderful tobac. To date,
I've sampled an even dozen of Craig's blends. The latakia blends are
my favorites -- Professor and London Squire. Craig's virginia periques
are likewise interesting -- Exclusive, Plantation Evening... In the
morning, I've been smoking Cumberland from Gatlin-Burlier. Its
supposed to be a "noble english" blend but reminds me more of a mild
aromatic with a virginia burley base, just a hint of latakia and a
light top dressing. Anyway, I can smoke this all day without
destroying my pallette. So, I smoke Cumberland in the morning and
early afternoon and turn on the full english blends in the late
afternoon and evening.

Thanks again and hope to write more soon.

Tom T.

So many briars, so little time.

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From: John O'Bryan (????????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Dear fellow pipe smokers,
Many of you have asked me (since my first posting) how I came to find
out about the book "My Lady Nicotine." I first came across this book when
a friend invited my wife and I over for an evening of smoking and reading.
He pulled out "My Lady Nicotine" and read the chapters "His Wife's cigars"
and "My Tobacco Pouch."  From that moment on I was determined to own this

I looked fervently for months to find a copy of my own.  I finally did find
a copy almost a year later.  During that year I spread word of this 
elusive book to my friends.  They, like me, ventured forth in search.  When
one of them found a copy, tattered or not, they would bring it to our weekly
meeting of the "Clerkes" and flaunt it before us as a prize hard fought and 
newly won.  It was during this time that I decided "My Lady Nicotine" 
had to be republished.

This book appeals especially to pipe smokers.  The love tha
"Arcadians" have for their tobacco and their pipes is akin to many of
ours.  We are friends with our hero because many of us feel a kinship
with him.  He is, what we are, or, would like to be.  Though our times
be different, the love of a briar, a pouch and the best tobacco in the
world has not changed in the hundred years since Mr.  Barrie first
wrote "My Lady Nicotine."

I would relish talking with anyone about this book.  It is truly a fine
piece of work.

John O'Bryan

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Quote of the Week:

	"Smoking is, as far as I am concerned, the entire point of
	 being an adult.  Many people find smoking objectionable.  I
	 myself find many things even more objectionable.  I do not
	 like aftershave lotion, adults who roller-skate, children who
	 speak French, or anyone who is unduly tan.  I do not,
	 however, go around enacting legislation and putting up signs."

				- Fran Lebowitz

				[ though, personally, I don't object
				  to children speaking French, as long
				  as they're from, e.g., France.  And
				  as long as they don't go around
				  enacting legislation and putting up
				  signs. ] 

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #236 -- May 7, 1997
  2. Subject: CDROM and book
  3. Subject: Chicago show
  4. Subject: posting from pipes page
  5. Subject: Williamsburg Clay Churchwarden
  6. Subject: Clay Churchwrdn Revisited
  7. Subject: St. Bruno tinned tobacco
  8. Subject: movie on TCM
  9. Subject: posting from pipes page
  10. Subject: Miracles and IRC
  11. Subject: Update infor and other blatherings
  12. Subject: posting from pipes page
  13. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #235 -- April 18, 1997
  14. Subject: The changing face of the Tobacco world [Pipe]
  15. Subject: TV news and the Web
  16. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #235 -- April 18, 1997
  17. Subject: shops in Vancouver
  18. Subject: Tobacco Recipes
  19. Subject: Perique
  20. Subject: Some Observations on the UK Scene
  21. Subject: Pipers in Hamburg?
  22. Subject: Looking for people and new pipe mag in Germany
  23. Subject: posting from pipes page
  24. Subject: posting from pipes page
  25. Subject: posting from pipes page
  26. Subject: information
  27. Subject: Identify That Corncob!
  28. Subject: posting from pipes page
  29. Subject: Sovereign Pipe
  30. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #235 -- April 18, 1997
  31. Subject: No bad blood
  32. Subject: posting from pipes page
  33. Subject: tobac web site
  34. Subject: Finally got Birthday Kirsten!
  35. Subject: IMCO lighter
  36. Subject: posting from pipes page
  37. Subject: posting from pipes page
  38. Subject: posting from pipes page
  39. Subject: [Pipes] Personal Update
  40. Subject: posting from pipes page
  41. Subject: Santa Fe Tobacconist
  42. Subject: intro
  43. Subject: posting from pipes page
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