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Subject: Pipes Digest #237 -- May 27, 1997

		  Pipes Digest #237 -- May 27, 1997
   Copyright (C) 1997 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 2940

Welcome to new members:

	Randy Hall
	Kirk Birkenes
	Samuel D. Paul, Jr.
	Shannon Mcdermott
	Faruk Ulay
	Giuseppe Moavero
	Rob Saiter
	James K. Huang
	Brian Pruitt
	Tait, John
	John Calvaresi
	Dale G. Smith
	Laurence Steinman
	A. Troy Marsing
	Joe Houghtaling
	Eric Spee
	Bil Segui
	Dr. Janis Forehand
	Neato
	Jim Quackenbush
	Carl Davis
	Rick DeVries
	Nikolai Dotzek
	Jeremy Harrison
	Adam Matthew Ormond
	Chase P Turner
	Richard M. Plotka
	John Osadnick
	Walter Mcmurry
	Neil Runde
	Mo Stubblefield
	Susan Massad
	Russ Stewart
	Burt Sharp Jr.
	Mark Fullerton
	Edward G. Piroska
	George P. Schiavelli
	Jean-Pierre Dufresne
	Dr Philip Burnard
	Amir Juhn
	Mike Vaughn
	Leo Carling
	Steven S. Gross
	Larry Debarge
	Rob Pluta
	David V. Jones
	Joe McMonagle
	Botond Zalai
	Michael J. Crosbie
	Claudio Feo
	Gilberto Cunha
	Fred Porlock
	Laurent Sane
	John Collinson
	J Bowman
	Art Toll
	Charlie Lairson
	Ed Nicosa
	Richard A. Corley
	Scott Joseph Vanhoveln
	David R. Lundgren
	Richarad D. Berg
	Dale Morrison
	Nicola Sigismondi
	Christian E. Rogers
	Darren Beaucage
	Judd Perlson
	Gary Buckby
	Mike Getman
	Robert Allen Fairbairn IV
	Ronald C. Willis
	John G. Peryam
	Joseph Polenzani
	Paul Zortman
	Mark Kuras
	Al Maloney
	James H. Reynolds
	Alfredo Serra

My laundry room cabinet just fell off the wall (obviously a victim of
secondhand smoke -- so sez the EPA!) so I'm going to keep the editing
down to a minimum.  Note to handicapped members: some help needed this
issue.  Please read Bishop Greveling's letter.  Smoke in peace, ~\U S.


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	    Help Stop Prohibition  --  Keep Tobacco Legal

		      Call  --  Write  --  Vote

			Then, smoke in peace.


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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Just a couple of short questions for the group.
1. Are there any decent pipe shops in State College, Pa. (Penn State)?
2. Are pipes with cracks in the bowl repairable?
3. Are tins of GBD International World Blend available?

BTW: it was nice seeing Steve on IRC Chat #pipes

Thanks
(alias pipester)


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From: Bobby Holstein <?????????????????>
Subject: posting from pipes page

>>Does anyone out there know where I 
>>might secure a copy of R C Hacker's "Ultimate Pipe Video"?

Most of the bigger mail order guys carry it...
Thompson (http://fujipub.com/thompson)
Holt's   (http://fujipub.com/holts)
JR       (http://jrcigars.com)

Or if you just want to check out Hacker's page...
http://fujipub.com/hacker
or
http://cigarczar.com

Slainte
Bobby

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From: "Justin Wiley" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #236 -- May 7, 1997

Steve, 

First let me thank you for the wonderful work you do with the list.

I was wondering how long pipe tabacco lasts.  Is it strictly 
dependent on how it's stored?  Or does it actually have a half life?

Many thanks,

---------------
Justin Wiley
?????????????????????????
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                      "Subvert the dominant paradigm"
                               
                            -----------------

[ Sealed, tinned pipe tobacco can last at least decades.  Rob Denholz
demonstrated this at the last NYPC show, on a can of 1920s vintage
Rattrays.  However, he did not respond to the pleading eyes of myself
and Chris Esser. :-) -S. ]


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From: Jeroen Greveling <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Thanks

Dear Steve,

>From over the ocean I will personally thank you for your efforts you
have with PD. As you know, I have MS and in january I had a big
surgery they have made a stoma an UP, (they have removed my blatter).
Ater Easter, maybe it was to fast to busy for me as bishop I lay on my
bed since the first of april. My best arm/hand, the right one is now
also paralised (not totally) but the sensivity and strength is
disturbed.  Last november I get from my parish a note-book, the one I
use to write you from my bed, also I had taken it to the hospital, so
I can communicate with friends.  I just recieved PD #236, and also the
ones I recieved at the hospital, that brings me joy and hapiness.  I
smoke a lot of pipes, now and that sorrows me, to smoke a pipe becomes
so difficult, to fill, so light and to hold in the hand and also in my
mouth (my tongue is also paralised at the left side). Perhaps you have
tips or solutions for me to make it easyier.

Please this is a message of sharing with you personally, so don't
place it all in a PD. I appoligize for my bad english, and I pray that
God bless YOU and your good work.

With brotherly smokersgreetings,

                                                       bishop jeroen greveling

[ Folks, I later persuaded Jeroen that the members of the Digest, and
particularly those who might be in the same predicament, might be able
to help him.  We'd like to hear from handicapped pipe smokers, or
their friends, about any innovations that have made it easier to light
and hold a pipe.  Please send in your ideas!  -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Going International ... ??

Jeremy Tully
05/09/97 10:23 AM

Kudos to Steve and the "gang",

Although I have previously introduced myself to the folks out their in
digest land, let me reprise that.

I am an avid pipe smoker from Houston, Texas, who fully backs the lobby
AGAINST the banning of tobacco (products, etc). God I am sick of politics.
Anyway, I have found two nice cigar @ pipe shoppes (one thanks to a pipes
digest reader's suggestion!) that I hang out at and usually end up buying
all my tobacoo from. So far (within the short 2 years of my experience in
piping) I have been buying mostly "house" blends of tobacco from both of
these establishments and as of yet have not tried any 'tinned' blends.
There is actually a Dunhill store here in Houston that carries such things,
but for the most part I have not had the bravery to try any.

Well, relying upon the vast amount of experience at my disposal, thanks to
the Pipes Digest, I would love to get some suggestions for some more
international blends to try. For the most part I have been smoking things
such as the stronger aromatic blends, and some milder English blends. I
tend to like tobacco with a good strong flavor to it, aroma and smell are
secondary at best. Taste is my prime concern.

Any suggestions from the audience would be GREATLY appreciated! Again
thanks Steve(s) and keep up the great work!

-Jeremy Tully	      "I smoke therefore I am"
????????????????????????	     -Rene' Descarte

[ And thank you for fighting the good fight! -S. ]


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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Pipes.org CD-ROM. (Interested? YES!)

Jeremy Tully
05/09/97 09:55 AM

To Steve and my fellow readers,

     I do think that the concept of a Pipes.Org CD-ROM is a fantastic idea.
Putting the Website on there is a nice concept, and would allow for some
fast browsing! I personally would definitely be interested in such a
purchase.

     BUT, if you think you should add to it to peak more folks' interest in
it, you could add some of the zillions of text files out there on the net
about Tobacco types, etc. That would be nice, and fairly easy to research I
think (although I am by far no expert)! And since Pipes.org and pipes
digest does (sort of) cover cigars at certain points, there are DOZENS of
other Cigar based Websites that I am sure would love to pitch in on the
effort and have their websites put on it.

     I dunno. Just some suggestions from a ranting mind. Hope they help,
and I am eager to find out when the CD-ROM is finished!

-Jeremy Tully	      "I smoke, therefore I am..."
????????????????????????	     -Rene' Descarte


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From: Terry Hagley <????????????????????>
Subject: New pipes on the web page

Fellow pipe smokers,

        As many of you know, I like to buy and sell pipes, and have
accumulated a nice group of pipes that can now be accessed from my web page.
The url is:

        http://www.eurekanet.com/~hagley

        Take a look and let me know if you find something you'd like.

Terry Hagley


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From: Mark Lathem <?????????????????>
Subject: Tobacco Shop Review

Steve,

I am pleased to announce that I've finally found a nice tobacco shop 
in my part of the world.  The establishment is "Poor Richard's
Pipe & Tobacco Shoppe" in San Bernadino, CA.  They are already listed 
in the resource guide, and a brief review of the store was presented 
a couple of years ago.  Still, I thought I'd share my impressions.

Upon walking into the shop, you immediately see that this is an "old
fashioned" institution.  When I entered, someone was filling their cup
with complimentary coffee from the communal pot, two gentlemen were
sitting on a sofa engaged in coversation, and another pair were 
settling in at the card table for a game of cribbage.  I was given a 
hearty welcome from the man behind the counter, and I began to browse.

The shop has a very nice selection of pipes, from $2 corncobs to $2000
freehands by Jess Chonowitsch.  They also have a number of estate 
pipes, all in very nice condition and at good prices.  Their tobacco 
selection is quite good; besides a large number of house blends, 
they also have a wide variety of tinned tobaccos (McClelland, 
Esoterica, Dunhill, McBaren, etc. etc. etc.).  Books, tools, pouches, 
racks--you name it, they've got it.  Prices across the board are quite 
reasonable (and not just by California standards, either).  The shop 
has a large walk-in humidor for the cigar crowd, which appeared to be 
well-stocked.  Browsing and smoking are heartily encouraged.

I was particularly impressed by the treatment my wife and daugher
received when they walked in.  They had finished their shopping down the
street, but I was still in the midst of trying to wrangle a trade for an 
ODA shell billiard.  The ladies were immediatly given a seat on the 
sofa, and my wife was offered a cup of coffee.  A salesman then 
approached my daughter and offered her the choice of a licorice pipe or 
a bubblegum cigar (she chose the latter).  I always tell my wife how 
very nice "pipe people" are, and the staff here proved me right yet 
again.

In summary, the visit--while cut short by other obligations--was an
extremely pleasant experience.  I managed to pick up a couple of tins of
tobacco that I had been unable to find elsewhere and a few other odds
and ends (if you find a nice shop, *always* buy *something*).  I eagerly
look forward to my next visit; I may just get that ODA next time <G>.

The shop's location and phone number are already listed in the guide,
but the shop also has an e-mail address, "??????????????????????????,"
and a web site at "http://www.ypo.com/poorrichards/."

Regards,

--
Mark Lathem      
http://www.atlcom.net/~drlathem/pipes

[ Mark, it sounds like just the sort of place that California needs
more of.  I've updated the Guide listing. Thanks! -S. ]


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From: "Mark Rice" <??????????????????>
Subject: A memorable experience with pipe smoking

I'd like to share with others on this list a pipe smoking experience
that lead me to become interested in taking up this "sport".

It was back in 1977.  I was on the high school rifle team and our coach 
smoked a pipe.  He would smoke it at our practice matches and since 
our rifle range was an indoor range, the sweet smell of his pipe smoke 
would meander through the whole place. 

Our team didn't receive much funding, so we only traveled once a 
year for a match.  (We competed through the year, but all of our 
competition targets were mailed to a judging panel who determined 
the scoring results and sent out trophies to the winning teams.)

That once-a-year travel was to the Illinois State High School Match.
Well, since we were acustomed to our "home" range, our nerves were 
very much on edge at the State Match (but I'm sure all the other 
competitors were feeling nervous too).

When it was our school's turn to line up on the range to shoot (also 
an indoor range)  the unfamiliar layout, lighting, and the officials 
present made my stomach tighten.  At that time, the coaches were 
prohibited from advising their team members, they could only sit near 
the back and watch us shoot. I was into the second set of shots and then I 
smelled that familiar pipe smoke...    well, we took the State 
Championship (but not because of my score).

Our team took the State Championship for 14 years in a row.  And I'll 
always remember that pipe smoke at the range.  Was it 
psychological?  Don't know, but I'd like to think so.

- Mark Rice
Distinguished Expert, smallbore rifle
Marksman, smallbore pistol

"I believe that many would find that the heart sings unbidden while 
they are working their way through a tough bit of theology with a 
pipe in their teeth and a pencil in their hand."
[C.S. Lewis in the Essay "On the Reading of Old Books", London, 
1944.]


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From: Robert Ferchenbauer <???????????????????????????>
Subject: Meerschaum

Dear pipesmokers,

in your pipes digest #236 Jennifer Lindblad and Paul Terry were in
consternation, because they read in "The History of the Pipe", that
turkish meerschaums with fittings made of synthetic material are
unsmokable.  I think, to discuss the "chapter meerschaum", you've
to keep in mind, that we are speaking about at least 4 Qualities of
meerschaum.

The best and expensivest meerschaum is pure Sepiolith, which is found
in Anatolien/Turkey. You have to get little boulders of Sepiolith to
carve a homogene pipes head.  These pipes are very expensive, i think
at least 400 $, and the mouthpieces and fittings are often made of
Sukzinit (amber).

Because the turkish arent able to find enough boulders of Sepiolith,
they createt "Massa-Meerschaum". This is the convolut of small pieces
Sepiolith, grinded down, and pressed together with a bonding
agent. Then they produce manly pipes with a figural head, synthetic
fitting and mouthpiece. These pipes are extremly expensive, when you
remind, that these pipes are really unsmokable (because of the bonding
agent), and cost at least 100 $. I recommend to use them as a
souvenir, and to put them in your pipe cupboard.

Then there exists a type of meerschaum, whis is 100% Sepiolith, but
not "boulder-meerschaum".  It is registered by the firm Strambach,
located in Vienna Austria.  In this Pipes manufacture the Sepiolith is
grinded down too, but only pressed with pure water over month to form
blocks wich you can use to carve pipeheads.  After carving the head it
is polished with waxes and lime. The mouthpieces are avaiable made of
synthetics and amber or horn. (I prefere synthetics, because it's
easy to clean) Because of the manufactoring method used by Strambach,
the pipes are to smoke like some made with "boulder-Sepiolith" These
pipes cost aproximately 100$ upwards.  Strampach offers pipes made of
"boulder-sepiolith" too, but they're really expensive.

The fourth type of meerschaum is "Missouri Meerschaum". (Corncob-Pipes).
I prefer them when I'm in the mountains.
A little joke.

If you contact your pipeshop, I'm sure he may import "Strambach's" to
your country.

Here's the adress:	Fa. Strambach Robert
			Erz. feiner Rauchwaren
			Sandwirtgasse 6
			A-1060 Vienna
			Austria

I hope you apologize my bad english, i.e. the failure of vocabulary,
but I haven't spoke english for more than ten years.

Have a nice day

Robert Ferchenbauer
Hilschergasse 1/10-11
A-1220 Vienna

Austria

mailto : ???????????????????????????

[ Thank you for the note, Robert! I've placed the Strambach company in
the Resource Guide. -S. ]


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From: Marcus Jacob (???????????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page


Lately I have found an old "Golden Mixture" tobacco tin in my fathers
garage. Unfortunately it contained no longer tobacco but bolts and
nails :-( The manufacturer is BRINKMANN, BREMEN (Germany). I dont know
how old this tin is, so if anyone knows more about it ...  Now a more
detailed description:

yellow-golden (brass?) tin, rectangular, approx. 15x10x4 cm
Labeled "Golden Mixture, From the Original Recipe 17"
And, what a surprise, the recipe is printed out, 

	29 Oz. Virg. Old Belt A
	13 Oz. Carolina E&S
	 8 Oz. Burley finest
	18 Oz. Turkish I

feel free to try it out, but let me know. (and send me a sample ;-)

Marcus Jacob
Germany


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From: "David M. Bent" <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Slate Article

Steve and fellow Pipies,
 
If you hadn't seen this yet, thought  the pipies would be interested. I
have sent this article as an attachment, however it is unedited. It is from
the May 10 Slate magazine.

It would seem that the FDA is again trying to save us from ourselves, and
the perrenial excuse is of course "The Children"

I grew up in house where my grandfather smoked a pipe continuously, and,
being retired , all his cronies smoked too and visited them quite often. A
lasting image is of my grandpa, sitting in the kitchen, striking a match on
the bottom of the chair and lighting his pipe. My point is that with all
that secondhand smoke and the twelve years that I have been smoking, I
ought to have lung cancer, emphysemia, black lung disease, the gout, or any
other disease that's being blamed on tobacco this month. I do not.

I don't want to sound discouraged, but it seems to be getting worse, not
better.

Sorry to sound depressing folks, but I'm in a foul mood. Gout's acting up.

						Hellbent
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

-----

FDA Smoke Rings: Regulating us through our children.

By Jack Shafer
(1,156 words; posted Saturday, May 10; to be composted Saturday, May 17)

 My father was the supreme regulator in our family, promising each of
his six children a $100 cash subsidy from the family treasury if they
did not partake of nicotiana before age 21. Dad was a Camel man, and
his offer usually came as he filled the air with smoke and ash. He so
despised his deadly habit that he routinely thumped any kid caught
sneaking puffs in the attic.

 Tomorrow's parents won't have to regulate their tobacco-tempted
teens, because the federal government has taken the job.  President
Cigar (I mean Clinton) made teen smoking a federal affair two years
ago when he unleashed the Food and Drug Administration on the
problem. And there is a problem: A recent study shows that 34 percent
of high-school seniors now smoke, compared with 25 percent of adults.

 Clinton's FDA commissioner, David A. Kessler, inserted the federal
government into the fray by diagnosing teen smoking as a "pediatric
disease." Assuming regulatory control over the noxious weed for the
first time in the agency's history, he defined tobacco as a "drug" and
tobacco products (cigarettes, cigars, chew) as "drug-delivery devices"
under the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act. Discovering these regulatory
powers--which had escaped the notice of other FDA commissioners for
more than 80 years--Kessler issued a slew of rules designed to
suppress teen smoking, most of which were upheld by U.S. District
Judge William L. Osteen Sr.  late last month. Although Osteen's
decision is currently under appeal, he approved Kessler's ban on
tobacco sales to anyone under 18, as well as the commissioner's
various prohibitions on cigarette-vending machines, self-service
cigarette displays, and free samples of tobacco.  He also approved the
FDA's new warning label for cigarette packs: "Nicotine-Delivery Device
for Persons 18 or Older."

 Of course, the evil tobacco bastards recoiled from Kessler's
rules. In court, they argued that the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act
limits the FDA's regulatory powers to drugs and medical devices that
provide medical benefits. The tobacconists' perverse logic held that
poisonous products like cigarettes, for which no health claim is made,
should fall outside government regulation. The tobacco bastards didn't
actually call their product poisonous in court, but that's their
take-home message: Regulate us if our product heals, but don't
regulate us if our product kills. And make no mistake about it,
tobacco kills: The average cigarette smoker lives eight fewer years
than the average nonsmoker.

 But just because the tobacco companies are evil doesn't mean that we
should sympathize with the FDA, which has convoluted the law to wound
its foe. If the FDA were consistent, it would leapfrog the Drug
Enforcement Administration and start regulating marijuana. (The drug
here is THC, and the delivery system is a joint.)  Or it would police
whiskey and shot glasses. Or it would go after the Big Mac as an
unhealthful fat-delivery device. (You laugh. The FDA currently
regulates that nonfat delivery device, olestra.)

So how did the FDA succeed in regulating tobacco? In the guise of
protecting children.

 Don't get me wrong. Some of my best friends are children--but I don't
want to live in a child-proofed world, and most kids don't want to
grow up to inherit such a safe place, either. The joy of being an
adult lies in the freedom to take chances--even if you have to pay the
consequences. Osteen's decision proves that almost any liberty can be
nibbled away if suffering children can be associated with it. But even
the judge approved only the most overt nanny-state measures requested
by the FDA, acknowledging the agency's power grab by rejecting the
proposals that don't directly deter teen smoking. For instance, the
FDA wanted to bar tobacco companies from sponsoring sports events or
placing Marlboro Man and Joe Camel logos on T-shirts, caps, and other
gear.

 The FDA claims that its ad-busting rules are the best way to achieve
the administration's goals of halving teen smoking in the next seven
years. But young Americans aren't as helpless in the face of the
tobacco-industry juggernaut as the Clintonites would like to imagine:
Black teen-agers are already hitting the president's goals.  A 1995
government study found that while 38 percent of white teen-age boys
smoke cigarettes, only 19 percent of their black contemporaries
do. Young black girls are even more resistant to tobacco: Forty
percent of young white girls smoke vs. only 12 percent of young black
girls.

 It wasn't always so. Just 20 years ago, young blacks and young whites
smoked in equal percentages. What changed? One theory holds that young
white girls (unlike young black girls) subscribe to a cult of
thinness, and smoke to block their appetite. Some black teens tell
researchers that they feel that society has so thoroughly stacked the
deck against them with racial discrimination, crime, and poverty that
their very survival depends on resisting tobacco. And still others
maintain that young blacks are quicker to see through Joe Camel's
charms than young whites. To the sociologists' speculations, add mine.
Everybody likes a little danger in their lives, but perhaps most black
kids are already experiencing all the hazards their psyches can take.
Meanwhile, kids (of all races) who live inside elaborately constructed
safety cones--airbags; mandatory bicycle helmets; mommy pagers;
home-security systems; anti-drug campaigns; anti-sex propaganda; and
sanitized-for-your-protection suburbs--yearn for something to rebel
against. At 15 cents per protest, smoking is a cheap ticket to danger.
(The buzz ain't bad, either.)

Another reason the FDA got away with the power grab is because the
Zeitgeist has been moving in the agency's direction for some time. Our
culture now interprets nearly all pleasures as addictions--or
potential addictions. Case in point: Time magazine's reductive cover
story of May 5 on the neurotransmitter dopamine. According to Time,
dopamine explains how and why we become "addicted" to sex, drugs,
booze, gambling, food, cheap thrills, and yes, tobacco. Shall we call
in the FDA regulators to protect us from our addictive desires? The
FDA may have no current plans to dispatch referees to our bedrooms to
enforce safe sex, but when it does, you can be sure it will be in the
guise of protecting children.

 My mom and dad eventually quit the cigarette habit, as did my oldest
brother and my baby sister. The juvenile delinquent in the brood
smoked for 12 years before he died in an accident at the age of
26. Two of my brothers still smoke, although both would press the
magic button and quit tomorrow if they could.

 I alone collected the $100 bounty posted by my Dad.  I've still never
smoked a cigarette, although I'll enjoy a Cuban cigar if you're
buying. I collected my C note at my 21st birthday party. Dad planted
it in my birthday cake on a makeshift flagstaff. I don't remember what
I spent the money on, but I do recall how I rebelled my way through
high school. I drank to howling, puking excess.

The National Center for Health Statistics offers some smokin' data; the
Centers for Disease Control provides the lowdown on teen smokers; and
the FDA's Children and Tobacco page makes the case for the agency's
campaign. If you're intrigued by the FDA's tobacco-as-drug argument, see
the full text of Judge Osteen's ruling. The government's fanatical
crusade against tobacco may well lead to prohibition and a violent black
market, argues Reason magazine's Jacob Sullum. For an artery-clogging
look at America's favorite fat-delivery devices, see the "nutrition
page" at McDonald's Web site. But never fear: Olestra is here to protect
America's at-risk children.

What the hell is a Flame Posie?

Illustrations by Robert Neubecker.


Copyright 1997 Microsoft and/or its suppliers. All rights reserved.


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From: "Kevin D. Knerr, Sr." <??????????????????????>
Subject: Re:  Pipes Digest #236

[Admin only]

Steve,

As far as I know, the Tobacco Village listing for Philadelphia was for a 
different shop.  The Tobacco Village I patronize is in the Lehigh Valley, 
about 33 miles north of Philly.  Sorry for the confusion I created!

Keep puffin!

Barthel
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Where would you like Bill Gates to go today?


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From: "Ralph Ryan" <??????????????????>
Subject: New here...

Hi all,

I am new to the Digest, but old as a smoker.  Female, 53 years,
ex-military, started smoking pipes in june 1963 at Fort monmouth, New
Jersey.  All the other gals in the barracks smoked cigarettes so I took up
the pipe in self defense <grin>.

Favorite pipes are Charatans, Upshalls, David Joneses, Tim Wests, Wylies
and Don Carlos.  Favorite tobaccos are MacClelland's heavier English and
Butera's Royal Vintage and Esoterica.  

The Hubby smokes a pipe too, so we never have any doubt as to xmas gifts. 
He and I trade, sell or buy pipes at times too.

Smokingly,

Ivy K. Ryan  (on the Hubby's account)


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From: "Ralph Ryan" <??????????????????>
Subject: Hi!

I have been reading back issues of the Pipe Digest lately.  Very
interesting 'zine indeed.  Sort of an on-line The Pipe Smoker's Ephemeris
in fact.

One question was "Who are you?" and another was "How did you start smoking
pipes?".

Well, I am Ivy K. Ryan, 53 or so, female ex-military retiree.  I started in
1964 when I had just entered the military and was assigned to a barracks
full of cigarette smoking women.  I have never smoked cigarettes to this
day but I had to do something in self defense.

My first pipe was a GBD Virgin Colosus and it did really set the terms for
the rest of my life.  I am stubborn, and I stayed with my pipe(s) in spite
of all the reactions.  I like the freaked out looks now, tho I was
self-conscious then.

My second and third pipes were both Dunhills, the 3rd to replace the burned
out 2nd but my 4th pipe was a Charatan.  I bought it from the Charatan
factory in London after watching the artist make it.  I have prefered
Charatans ever since.

In the 1960s they were turely Hand Made and a person could go to their
factory and stand outside the window and watch the artists at work. 
Charatan also had a blending service in their factory store, as did most
other pipe makers in those days.  I setteled on a medium strong English
blend and have been happiest smoking something near that ever since.  Hard
to do when the PX was my only supplier but I could always get good tobaccos
overseas anyway.

Currently I smoke Charatans, Tilshead (James Upshalls), GBDs, S&Rs, Tim
Wests and David Joneses buI spend most of my tobacco in the Charatans. 
They are all the size 3 to 4 groupings and I preferr those sizes.  Most
american pipe makers make pipes that are too large and heavy to hold with
the teeth so I rarely smoke them even tho I have a few.

I'm smoking MacClellands blends now for the most part but Mike Butera's
Royal Vintages and Esotericas are also in my stash.  Finally, I am lucky
enough to be married to a pipe smoking man so we have a lot of fun simply
smoking together.

Keep Puffing,

Ivy K. Ryan


[ Welcome to the fold, Ivy! -S. ]


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From: rnewton <?????????????????????????????????????>
Subject: Letter of Introduction

Steve,
 
	Thanks for putting me on the list!  I thought I'd send a quick HELLO!
to all the members and introduce myself before I get accused of
lurking!  I am former military (US Army AND Air Force) and currently a
Special Education Teacher of the Severe Behavior Handicapped (Junior
High male aggressive).  I have been smoking a pipe for several years,
but much more so recently since I joined the North American Society of
Pipe Collectors!  I honestly have never felt so much "at home" as with
my fellow members!
	I have a modest collection of only about 15 pipes, but enjoy them
greatly.  I favor blasted bent Italian bulldogs and have versions from
Jacopo, Mastro, Savinelli and Costello that are all great smokers.  I
also like another shape that I look for in American pipes, a freehand
that is sort of a bent, tall billard and have versions from M. Frey and
M. Butera.  I recently asked J.T. Cooke to carve one for me also in this
shape.  I also have D. Jones, S. Weiner and R. Wiley pipes in different
shapes.  I don't think it will surprise anyone to admit that I also have
several cobs (wood plug bottom versions) that I enjoy smoking when
fishing, playing golf and working in the yard! 
	In tobacco, I enjoy most quality Virginas, Virginia blends,
Virginia-Perique blends, but only occasional Latakia!  The form I most
often smoke is flake.  I attended the Chicago show and was pleased to
meet Craig Tarler (and fill my bowl several times!)  His Escudo-like
#967 and #414 Oriental Silk are wonderful, cool smokes.
	As I mentioned earlier, my job can occasionally be, shall we say,
stressful?  One of my greatest treats to myself is to get home and fill
one of my bowls, kick back and relax.  I hope each of you receives the
same relief that I do.  

Smoking in Peace.......


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From: TIM AND MONIKA LANG <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Just a letter

Hello, 

Believe it or not, I just wanted to say hello.  At least that is how this
letter started.

Great job with PD.  I have kept busy reading the back issues.  

Steve, I think a CD would be great.  But I would like to see all the
other resources on it as well.  Downloading pic's off the internet is
a bit expensive here.  I think $20 is reasonable.  It sure would save
me some disk space.

And in the interest of promoting chatter, send in your favorite
quotes!  Here is mine to start off:

        The pipe, with solemn interposing puff,
        Makes half a sentence at a time enough;
        The dozing sages drop the drowsy strain,
        Then pause, and puff-and speak, and pause again.
        William Cowper (1731-1800), English poet. 
        Conversation (written 1781; published 1782).

Thanks 

Tim

P.S.  If anybody in area of Vienna wishes to drop me a line and point
me in the direction of a good pipe tobacco source in Europe(mail
order?), it would be appreciated.  T.L.


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From: Fred (???????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Steve;

I would like to say that your efforts are appreciated by all of us
fellow pipe smokers and by myself in particular.

I have been a pipe smoker and collector for the last 32 years.  I have
over 500 pipes in my collection at this time.  I smoke mostly
Charatan's and Dunhill's, however, I have over a dozen Butera's that
are wonderful.  I have to thank a few people for helping me get
started in this most enjoyable hobby.  First would be Max Schulte of
Schulte's Pipe Shop which used to be in Maplewood New Jersey.  Max
sold natural briar pipes with no stain, Max had a few thousand pipes
that were made of Algerian Briar.  He spent many hours with me in
teaching me the art of smoking a pipe and the various tobacco blends
and how he blended tobaccos to acheive various tastes and aromas.  Max
was truly a "Tobacconist" and a great guy.  My first pipe was $2.50
natural briar and a half pound of "Lord Yale" Mixture.  I was done
with "Half and Half" and "Kaywoodie" pipes forever.

I spent alot of time traveling and going to school over the next few
years and I had the pleasure of stumbling on Ehrlich's Pipe Shop in
Boston when I was 18.  There was an old man that smoked the largest
meerchaum pipe I had ever seen.  He was Irish and spoke with a
wonderful accent and the pipe would never go out.  He smoked DPE
Mixture which is a cube cut Burley and some Latakia and perhaps a
little Virginia.  This became my new smoke of choice and a new mecca
in New England for me. At 21 I was working in New Jersey and I had to
travel to Ohio on business.  I was told about "Smokers Haven" in
Columbus but I was stuck in Akron with no way to visit this store, so
I called and spoke to Joe Zieve the owner who spoke to me at leat once
a month for the next few years about pipes and tobaccos and was able
to twist my arm into buying many GBD's and various English Blends such
as his Exotique and Krumble Kake.  Joe was indeed the master of
customer service and a wonderful teacher!  To this day I miss the
phone ca lls and letters from Joe...but I still have my GBD's, and
Krumble Kake is Penzance from Esoterica, so all is not lost.

A few years latter I was introduced to Druquers Pipe Shop in Berkely
California and I began smoking their Cooks #5 blend...Now this was the
new "best" blend for me.  Smoked it for years, the shop was sold,
moved and the blend changed and I moved on.

I was very fortunate indeed to develop a friendship with the late
Barry Levin and his son Nikos.  I have spent more money with these
guys than I care to admit to.  They taught me the collectable business
and they fed my hobby and sent it to a new level.  I respect Barry and
Nikos because they have helped develop the hobby to a new level for
many people and I for one applaud their efforts.

I don't buy as many pipes as I used to but I spend more money on what
I want instead of what I think I need in my collection.  Today I smoke
tobaccos from C&D Pirate Kake and Niko's da Vinci.  Both blends are
very full Latakia mixtures.  I use the Internet now for most of my
shopping.  I own my own company and I can smoke my pipe all day if I
want to, I wish I could say the same for at home :).  Anyway, that's a
part of my story.  Keep up the good work Steve and keep spreading the
news.

Fred


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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Introduction

A tip of my hat to Steves B. and M. for all your work in maintaining the 
Digest and the website!  Now that I have e-mail at home, I pleased to 
finally be a subscriber.  So let me briefly introduce myself.
	My name is Steve Johnson (yes, another one); I live in the 
Washington, DC area, just turned 40 (how did that happen so soon?).  Like 
so many others, I first started smoking a pipe in college, though not 
very dilligently.  I pretty much gave it up about 10 years ago--my 
s.o. at the time did not approve--and began dipping Kodiak instead.  
A couple years ago, I started getting in on the cigar boom, and am 
now rediscovering the joys of pipes.  I've been lurking via the office 
internet for about 6 months; the Digest has already added immensely to my 
pipe-smoking enjoyment.  As a result of the Digest, I've discovered John 
B. Hayes Tobacconists.  My first visit there, a chap named John Weinstein 
helped me--we ended up talking motorcycles as much as we did pipes.
	My pipe collection now stands at 14--up from 8 a few weeks ago, 
as Hayes recently purchased an enormous collection of estate pipes.  My 
preference is definitely toward full bent pipes and fairly large bowls.  
My favorite pipe, though is a nearly-straight-stemmed Tim West, which 
could best be described as an octagonal apple bowl.  My tobacco tastes 
have also become more refined as a result of reading the digest.  I've 
graduated from the Tinder Box's Captain Spice (nice aroma, turns to 
sludge); my current preferences in aromatics are Champagne and A.T. 
blend.  Thanks to comments from fellow subscribers, I'm also turned on to 
Balkan Sobranie--it's worthy of all the praise bestowed upon it in these 
pages!  Also recently tried a tin of Rattray's Black Mallory; the jury is 
still out on that.  I regret that I only get to smoke 1 or 2 pipes a day. 
 I envy those of you who can smoke at the office; and since I commute to 
work either by motorcycle or subway, I can't even enjoy a bowlful on the 
way to/from work.
	One last comment, and then I'll yield the floor to another.  A 
while back there was quite a discussion of underage smokers and the 
self-consciouness felt by younger pipe smokers (those in their late teens 
and 20s).  I'll bet almost all of us began our hobby before we were of 
legal age, too.  And I'll bet many of us also felt similarly 
self-conscious--I sure did.  Perservere anyway!  I think pipe smokers are 
born individualists--a pipe sets you apart from the crowd, so display 
your individuality with pride!



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From: Lance Sang <????????????????????????>
Subject: A "More Than Three Pipe Problem

Hi to all:
Call it compulsive if you will, but I have just spent my weekend
downloading all of the issues of Pipes Digest (1 to 236) and formatting
them from Simpletext to Word (yes, I have a Mac).
Despite the haze of multiple bowls of Bengal Slices and (old) Black
Mallory, I was able to learn much great info that I missed in 30 years
of pipe smoking, and from before I got on the Web. It's nice to see that
the political dickering found in issues from the early years is mostly
gone, with the focus now being where I think it belongs -- on pipes and
tobaccos.
One more item: I only recently unpacked a carton that had been
'misplaced' when I moved  several years ago, and found 6 pipes; all
undistinguished, except for a Butera Royal Classic Bent Rhodesian, with
a silver band, that I had bought from Barry Levin. 
To our Webmaster, Moderator, and all, Thank you.


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From: ???????????? (Claudio Feo)
Subject: I am back !

Dear Steve and pipe fellows !

I am finally back on line after months of absence . I hope you al well
and smoking with pleasure . I am now , based in a rather remote area
of north-west Mozambique , in a town called Tete . Life here is fine
despite the hit (up to 46 C , before rainy season !) which is not very
conducive to pipe smoking .

However , I hope I will be allowed again into your mailing list !
Looking forward to hear from you ,

???????????????????

[ Allowed?  Certinly!  Anyone who is living in that kind of heat needs
all the help he can get! -S. ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: CORPS show?

I'm vvverrry far behind.  Sorry for the delay.  Had computer trouble, and all
sorts of working hours.  haven't been on line for a month.  will send you
text on the Expo as soon as I get it to text mode.

details:  Columbus Day weekend, Oct 10, 11, 12.  Holiday Inn West Broad (I-64
exit 183 B) (804) 285-9951 ask for the block of rooms under C.O.R.P.S. or
pipe smokers; THEME:  Sherlock Holmes !!! w/ special happenings!  also,
celebrating the 20th anniversary of McClelland Tobacco! who will attend (they
became famous at our Expo in 1986 (just kidding - they did it with superb
tasting tobaccos and quality)) AND celebrating the 50th anniversary of
Castello Pipe!  

all of this will promise an excellent time - with something for everyone.
 table prices TBD (they have to go up from the price of the last 5 years just
to break even).  We will have the real brochure out in about 1 1/2 months.
 (please email both of your postal addresses so I can sent a brochure - the
preliminary one and the final one).

tho the text won't have the graphics of the brochure, I'll mail yall the
prelim. one if I can get the postal address.

thanks again for caring.  enjoy a bowl while contemplating your trip to the
funnest pipe Expo ever!
Linwood

[ Will do on the addresses, Linwood!  And if the show is as good this
year as it was the last, it'd be well worth attending! -S. ]


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From: "E.J. Spee" <?????????????>
Subject: Introduction

Dear Steve and all,

it was a rainy sunday afternoon - it was supposed to be spring here in
Amsterdam - that I stumbled into the Pipes Web Pages and I immediately
felt at home. What a wealth of information though - understandebly - a
little bit 'America-centred'. The internet-community is supposed to be
global, so you can count on contributions from the old world in the
future - that is, from me.  I subscribed to the Pipes Digest of
course, but was stricken with fear when my PC started to dowmload the
latest issue: 143 K! I went to make myself a cup of coffee or two. A
lot of interesting topics and I look forward to receiving forthcoming
issues.

I have a couple of questions and I hope my fellow Pipes
Digest-subscribers will be able to answer them.

1) I'm searching for the tobacco with the highest latakia-content that
is still smokeable. The best (or the worst - depends on whom you're
talking to) I've found is ABu Riha from De Graaff in The Hague (also
in The Netherlands), a flake-type tobacco with a latakia-content only
the strongest will endure. But, are there any others?  Suggestions are
welcome.

2) Pipe-smokers clubs are nearly obsolete here in Holland. There is
one in Assen, one Groningen (both, I'm sorry to say, a bit of
provincial backwaters), there used to be a student pipe-smokers club
in Utrecht (of which I was co-founder) but that's all I know
about. Can anyone tell me if there's a smokers club in Amsterdam? I
live here for over five years now but I'm not able to locate one.

Well, that's all for now. Keep up the good work!

Eric Spee
Amsterdam

PS
Where should Bill Gates go today? Up in smoke!

[ Some of our U.S. members might have heard the radio commercial for
M$ Office last Christmas, which did indulge in some entirely
gratuitous smoker-bashing.  In any case, I haven't heard of a pipe
club in Amsterdam, though there is an active Dutch Internet cigar
club; mail to Victor Reijs (????????????????). -S. ]


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From: Lance Sang <????????????????????????>
Subject: A "More Than Three Pipe Problem

Hi to all:
Call it compulsive if you will, but I have just spent my weekend
downloading all of the issues of Pipes Digest (1 to 236) and formatting
them from Simpletext to Word (yes, I have a Mac).
Despite the haze of multiple bowls of Bengal Slices and (old) Black
Mallory, I was able to learn much great info that I missed in 30 years
of pipe smoking, and from before I got on the Web. It's nice to see that
the political dickering found in issues from the early years is mostly
gone, with the focus now being where I think it belongs -- on pipes and
tobaccos.
One more item: I only recently unpacked a carton that had been
'misplaced' when I moved  several years ago, and found 6 pipes; all
undistinguished, except for a Butera Royal Classic Bent Rhodesian, with
a silver band, that I had bought from Barry Levin. 
To our Webmaster, Moderator, and all, Thank you.


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From: Scott Taylor <?????????????????????>
Subject: Mango Cavendish

Hello,

In issue #235 David Chesler made reference to a search for a Mango
Cavendish.  I was recently in Las Vegas where I stopped in Mr. Bills
Pipe and Tobacco Company.  I picked up one of thier flyers and noticed
that they have a mango blend which they describe as "Danish Cavendish,
topped with mango for a fruity taste and aroma."  Alas, they do not
have a web site or even email but they do ship and have an 800 number,
which I just happen to have. 1-800-688-0302.  They are open 9AM to 9PM
PST.  I have not tried this flavor but their "Three Cherry Blend" was
tasty.

I hope this can be of help.

Scott Taylor 
Celebrate freedom and diversity.
HTTP://members.aol.com/catmagnat/

[ Thanks for the follow-up, Scott! -S. ]


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From: DOUGLAS HERBERT <??????????????????>
Subject: PD

Dear Steve and Readers: I've written the digest before, but I have a
tendency to just lurk.  However, a recent event annoyed me enough to
make me write.  I'm a 20 year old college student, and I've been smoking
pipes for around four years.  I've suffered the usual "hey man, what's
in the pipe, heh, heh" jokes with dignity, and assumed that they would
eventually end, probably in around ten years.  Anyway, I recently went
to Memphis, Tennessee, for spring break with a few of my friends.  I'm
in the habit of finding the pipe and tobacco shops in any city that I
come to, just on general principals.  Unfortunately, my three companions
(all female) didn't feel like going to any of the shops.  But we did go
to the Mall of Memphis, and found a large mall-based tobacco retailer
whom we all know and thus shall remain nameless, but their initials are
TB, L.  I entered the store, hoping to find something that would amuse
me.  I didn't.  Instead, the two gentlemen who were in charge acted like
my girlfreind and I were potheads who had confused their establisment
with a headshop or opium den.  They were quite rude and acted rather
superior.  After around five minutes of ill-treatment, I shot off a
complex question involving tobacco blends and flavorings.  They were
stumped.  One of them apparently didn't even know what an English Blend
tobacco was.  Niether knew what "Perique" tobacco was.  I continued to
irritate them with questions they had no answer to for a couple of
minutes, then purchased their Chairman's Blend (which I actually rather
enjoyed) and left, feeling quite vindicated.  The point I'm trying to
make is that because I'm 20 years old and have long hair, don't assume
that I don't know what I'm talking about.  I can discuss the finer
points of pipes, blends, tobacco, smoking, and anything else with
smokers twice and three times my age, and hold my own (if not teach them
a thing or two).  Ladies and Gentlemen, I am a veteran smoker at a young
age, and am quite proud.  Thanks for letting me vent, Steve, it's quite
apreciated.  -Doug Herbert

[ No problem, Doug!  Clearly TB doesn't require your further
business. -S. ]


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From:  Ron Oster (????????????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

I have been carving my own pipes for over 20 years as a form of primal
scream therapy.  Recently, I have begun to create pipe tools in the
form of katana swords (carbon steel, not wood).  Originally, I began
this for my own use; however, my co-workers at Merrill Lynch and other
co-smokers have been after me to create for them, including one
emulating a family sword.  So far, I have sold 30+ and have added a
page to my internet web site.

http://www.rtantiques.com/pipetool.htm

If anyone out there is interested in purchasing or swapping links or
providing for their customers, please let me know.  Unfortunately, the
images on the page are not up to my usual quality.  I should be
remedying that within the next week or two.

In the meantime, please give my site a glance.  Perhaps we can do some
business.

Thanks for your time,

Ron Oster, Managing Partner
Art Technologies, Ltd

[ Now THAT's a unique product, Ron! -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Greetings, fellow pipers!

I have not been able to submit to the Digest from my E-mail of late;
this posting form is really helpful.  Someone recently mentioned
acquiring a Korean brass and bamboo pipe. I got one of those a couple
months ago at a local Oriental grocery. It is 2 feet long, and cost
the princely sum of $14.95! For such a low price, it's a great smoke,
and the tobacco burns completely, probably since the brass bowl gets
so hot.  I also paid $60 for an antique German-style pipe a few weeks
ago. The bowl is octagonal and is either meerschaum or some other kind
of clay, and has a lid. Under the bowl is a socket that collects a
murky liquid that is probably all the nicotine etc. There is a
slightly flexible tube between the socket and stem, and the stem
itself is horn.The socket and some other fittings are made of a
close-grained wood (cocobolo, I think) that is most commonly used to
make clarinets, and I already mentioned the horn stem.There is
probably rubber in the flexible part, but I don't think that any of
the parts are synthetic. It smokes drier than my Peterson, because of
the socket, and just looks cool. (If you've got the LP of "This Was"
by Jethro Tull, the guy on the extreme left seems to be holding a
similar pipe.)  -Tim

The Truth is five, but men only have one name for it. 
-Patamunzo Lingananda
-><-fnord-><-
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From: ????????????? (Sheldon Richman)
Subject: ADA News Releases: Cigar Fact Sheet

Steve,

I wonder if you have seen this.  Do you know if it has been critiqued?  Thanks.

Sheldon Richman

>Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 08:43:41 -0500
>To : ?????????????
>Subject: ADA News Releases: Cigar Fact Sheet
>
>Cigar Fact Sheet

>Cigars are not a safe alternative to cigarettes.
>
>Cigar smokers can be at greater risk of death from cancer of the
>throat, mouth and esophagus than nonsmokers.
> 
>Cigar smokers, many of whom smoke an average of eight cigars per week,
>often suffer from badly stained teeth and chronic bad breath.
> 
>Cigar smokers who say they don't inhale are still at risk for oral and
>pharyngeal (throat) cancers.   Many people do inhale cigars (sometimes
>unintentionally).  Whether they  inhale or not, the cigar comes in contact
>with the lips, tongue and mouth tissues.  The cigar smoke permeates the
>mouth, nose and throat.
> 
>Cigar smokers may have the same risk for emphysema as do cigarette
>smokers.  A Danish study found no difference in risk of emphysema between
>current cigarette smokers and former smokers who switched to cigars or
>PIPES.  Their risk was reduced only if all tobacco consumption declined.
>
>Cigars were banned from restaurants long before cigarettes, mainly
>because of their foul odor; and cigars also produce secondhand smoke just
>like cigarettes.
> 
>Research links cigars with cancers of the mouth and lung, as well as
>with stroke, heart attacks and lung disease.

>Copyright &#169; 1997 American Dental Association.<br>
>Reproduction or republication strictly prohibited without prior written
>permission.</h5>

Sheldon

The man who said "two wrongs don't make a right" undoubtedly committed the
first wrong.  

[ I showed it to Marc Schneiderman, M.D., who responded thus... ]


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Re: ADA News Releases: Cigar Fact Sheet

Steve,
Thanks for the Email.  Lots of juicy (albeit rotten) stuff on cigars lately.
 "SOME (my
emphasis) cigars 40 X amount of nicotine." Sure, which cigars?  processed
tobacco, low end cigars possibly.  But nicotine is not absorbed well through
the mouth---only through the stomach and lungs.  Hence, cigar smokers have
negligible amounts of nicotine in the blood and cotinine (breakdown product
of nicotine which persists some weeks in the body) are also very low.  Oral
cancer?  12 X the amount in cigarettes (death rates notwithstanding.)
 However, the studies clearly point to alcohol as part of the picture...these
smokers were "heavy" alcohol users as well.  So since alcohol is a known oral
carcinogen, these studies demonstrate buptkis.  Bad breath, eyes of the
beholder type of stuff (my wife has never complained but she smokes
cigarettes so were even.)  Stained teeth?  Can't argue.  See your dentist.
 By the way, I'm waiting for some government literature before I write the
health FAQ on heart disease but it looks good for cigar smokers compared to
pipers and cigaretters.  Lower carbon monoxide and nicotine blood levels most
likely have something to do with this.

Bottom line________cigars are associated with oral/pharyngeal/lung cancers.
 But there are caveats:  don't inhale, don't overdo liquor (I'm not sure what
that means yet), let the buyer beware if there is a family history of lung or
oral cancer (definite genetic linking) and emphysema (genetically linked:
you'll get it even if you don't smoke cigarettes.  Cigarette smokers have a
10-15% of emphysema and 30% of lung cancer, however, 80% of emphysema
patients and 90% of lung cancers are cigarette smoking related.)

Had an H. Upmann Monarch last night...incredible.  I better check my mouth
for "white lesions", rinse my mouth with mouthwash, and take an inhaler
before participating in the local Memorial Day Parade today.  BTW, WINE BOSS
coming over for supper, better lock those humidors.

Please pass this on to whoever is interested in some of the facts.

Marc

[ Thanks for helping with this one, Marc!  For my own $0.02, see the
quote this issue. -S. ]


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From: ?????????????????? (Scotty Fitzgerald)
Subject: Anti's:A Nightmare Story

Ladies and Gentlemen,
	Right before the Long Island Rail Road was ordered by the
State of New York to ban smoking on it's cars, the following happened
to me:
	I read that the ban was coming up.  I hastened to enjoy one
last ride in a LIRR smoking car, so I packed a big alsation, and
bought a ticket to NYC.
	These trains are called MU's, short for Multiple Units, they
are all sealed electric cars that can do 90, I believe.  So the train
is speeding express to NYC.  and a non-smoker anti comes from the car
IN FRONT and tells a cigarette smoker to extinguish, because he can
smell it in the non-smoking care IN FRONT of the smoking car.
	Pretty good reach for a puff of cigarette smoke, eh?  I mean,
through one hermeticly sealed closed door, against the force of 90MPH
wind (caused by the motion of the train, get it?) through another
hermetically sealed door, and up an anit's nostrils (and all while
excaping both car's air conditioning systems.)
	But, it's not over yet....
	The cigarette smoker turns around, and says "your not smelling
me, your smelling him with the oversized pipe," and points at ME!
	Do the words "J'acuse" mean anything?
--
Scotty Fitzgerald
??????????????????
member:Hudson Valley Pipe-smokers Club


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From: ????????????????????? (David S Chesler)
Subject: A gift of Meershaum (break it in or return it)

 My wife has decided that I should smoke in style, and bought for
me a beautiful Meeshaum pipe.  It's a "major" gift, meaning it's
not only for Father's Day, but for my birthday and the next few
occasions.

 If I keep it, what should I know about breaking it in and caring
for it?  I know I've seen this discussed in the digest, but a
quick search from the web page didn't tell me much.

 Is this going to be worthwhile?  Right now I'm satisfied with
a corncob pipe, or even, when I don't have the time (which is usually,
see below) a Nat Sherman cigarette.

 What's a good setup for a room in which to smoke?  We have two
kids under the age of two at home, so I'd like to be isolated from
the rest of the house.  (Both to isolate them from smoke, and to
isolate my stuff from them.  Ideally the room will be outfitted
with a comfortable chair and some reading material, but these days
there's little point in getting comfortable anywhere unless I have
a baby in one arm and a bottle in the opposite hand.  That, and
changes at work, are why I've returned to smoking more earnestly,
and I need the peace of a bowl of tobacco more than a nicotine
hit to retain my sanity.)  Unfortunately the most likely spare space
adjoins the area where we wash and store the laundry.  Any ideas
short of walling off the furnace/tool shop corner?  (That would
require adding ventilation, because of the lack of basement
windows.)
 I see that Tony Casciato bought a Honeywell air cleaner which
was "not cheap".  How not cheap was it?
 Do ionizers do any good?
 (It's late spring in North America, so I've got several months
of good outdoor time before I'd need to implement anything.)

  - David Chesler (?????????????????????, etc. http://world.std.com/~chesler)


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Quote of the Week:

"The primary source of [polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons] in air is
the incomplete combustion of wood and fuel for residential heating."

		- U.S. National Institute of Health
		http://ntp-server.niehs.nih.gov/htdocs/ARC/ARC_RAC/PAH.html

		[ PAHs are cited as secondhand-smoke baddie by the
		  EPA. But I guess this means we should outlaw wood
		  fires and oil heaters first. ]


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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #237 -- May 27, 1997
  2. Subject: posting from pipes page
  3. Subject: posting from pipes page
  4. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #236 -- May 7, 1997
  5. Subject: Thanks
  6. Subject: Going International ... ??
  7. Subject: Pipes.org CD-ROM. (Interested? YES!)
  8. Subject: New pipes on the web page
  9. Subject: Tobacco Shop Review
  10. Subject: A memorable experience with pipe smoking
  11. Subject: Meerschaum
  12. Subject: posting from pipes page
  13. Subject: Slate Article
  14. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #236
  15. Subject: New here...
  16. Subject: Hi!
  17. Subject: Letter of Introduction
  18. Subject: Just a letter
  19. Subject: posting from pipes page
  20. Subject: Introduction
  21. Subject: A "More Than Three Pipe Problem
  22. Subject: I am back !
  23. Subject: Re: CORPS show?
  24. Subject: Introduction
  25. Subject: A "More Than Three Pipe Problem
  26. Subject: Mango Cavendish
  27. Subject: PD
  28. Subject: posting from pipes page
  29. Subject: posting from pipes page
  30. Subject: ADA News Releases: Cigar Fact Sheet
  31. Subject: Re: ADA News Releases: Cigar Fact Sheet
  32. Subject: Anti's:A Nightmare Story
  33. Subject: A gift of Meershaum (break it in or return it)
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