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Subject: Pipes Digest #241 -- September 2, 1997

		Pipes Digest #241 -- September 2, 1997
   Copyright (C) 1997 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 3042

Welcome to new members:

	Robert J Krebs
	Michael Schwartz
	Allen R. Hunter
	Jeremy Tully
	Andrew Zaitsev
	Ronald Toet
	Jose Carlos Aires
	Eric Morris
	Evert Kerkhof
	Robert L. Shumar
	Walt Costa
	Dave Wiener
	Cesar L. Garcia Armagno
	George L. Otero
	Ian Shaw
	Christopher M. Reinhart
	Ryan James Dillon
	Adam Siruchek
	Sharon Essock
	Tom Swartz
	Ewan Mackie
	John Curtin
	Greg Jones
	Albert Schultz
	Gene Croyle
	Frank W. Merritt, Jr.
	Scott Tageson
	Samuel Salada
	Terry Specht
	Brant Brechbiel
	Dan Hansen
	Dr Bruce Rae
	Charles H. Perry Jr.
	Donald G. Knox
	Hanjo Iwanowitsch
	Leif Jenssen
	Jason Miles Aines
	Ray Ziegler
	Gary Massaglia
	Sergio Ravache
	Dusty Rhodes
	Dana Ross
	Robert Allen
	Karl Pencik
	Joseph J. Spano
	Lloyd Chesser
	Shawn Mcknight
	O'Neil A. Zuck
	Roland Chaftari
	Baird Herbert Todd
	George W. Henry
	Neal Richardson
	Ernie Gec
	Mike Howard
	James C. Clark
	Gilbert O'Sullivan
	David Denney
	Otto W. Ziegelmeier
	Michael Berlyn
	D. Peterson
	Franz Tollmann
	John Barnes
	Adam C. Pozek
	David E. Hiller
	Victor Hernandez
	Clive Pattie
	Chris Gregory
	Robert E. May
	Rick Harrison
	Gil Harris
	Carmelo Portelli
	Henry Kuan
	Markus Kroemer
	Jeremy Lennard
	Tony Sheppard
	Kermit Ellis
	Dennis Boutilier
	John Smith
	Alex Troken
	Jo Didden
	Lance Martin
	Glenn Allen
	Joel A. Walberg
	Bill Yater
	John Gioannetti
	Vadim Nikitin
	Dan Hein

This issue was delayed by about a week due to some of the usual
on-the-job artificial crises, combined with community affairs work
that's kept me really hopping.  Hope you don't mind too much!  And now
please join me in lighting up some off-the-job stress relief...

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	    Help Stop Prohibition  --  Keep Tobacco Legal

		      Call  --  Write  --  Vote

			Then, smoke in peace.

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From: "Louis f. Carbone" <?????????????????>
Subject: Th Show

Hi Steve,
I hadn't heard from you.  BTW, I have heard tell that Nikos is no longer
in business.  Do you have anything on this disturbing news ?  Please let
me know.

[ See below. -S. ]

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From: "Ken Corey" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Nikos Levin phones disconnected

Ken Corey, Coopers & Lybrand L.L.P. (US)
Tel:    860-241-7020   Fax:    860-241-7590
I have been trying to contact Nikos Levin regarding some Pipes he has owed
me for some time (45 days) but find his phones and fax are disconected and
his web-site no longer connects to his e-mail.
Appears he has vanished.
If you know how to ge tin touch with him, I'd appreciate it.
Ken Corey
PS: His web site inventory has not been updated in 2 mos.

[ I met Nikos at the NYPC show this weekend.  While he is clearly
alive and selling pipes, there have also been a lot of rumors
(including some vicious ones) circulating around him and NML.  On the
general issue of NML, I do not want to either spread unfounded rumors
or withhold hard information from our readers.  Please, let's stick to
substantiated facts here, and speak with the knowledge that karma does
turn. -S. ]

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From: Bill Unger <???????????????????????????????>
Subject: NASPC Sept. 27 Swap/Sell Pipe Show

Steve, hope I'm not too late for the next issue.  Just wanted to let
everyone know that the NASPC swap/sell pipe show on Sept. 27 is looking
really good, with more tables sold than for last year's very crowded and
successful show and a huge amount of great stuff (lots of wonderful pipes)
to give away in our raffle.  The show is Sat., Sept. 27 at the Holiday Inn
at 328 W. Lane Ave. across from Ohio State.  Setup is 7-9 AM, and the show
is 9-5.  Admission is free.  Friday night, NASPC is providing a
well-stocked hospitality suite for those who come early and who want to
hang out and talk pipes, and perhaps swap them.  We still have tables
available at $40.  Anyone who needs more information should e-mail me or
call me at 614-252-2904.  We're expecting a great crowd and lots of fun
and action.  Everyone is welcome.

If you've got one pipe, you're a pipe smoker.  If you've got more than
one, you're a pipe collector.
Bill Unger
Secretary, North American Society of Pipe Collectors

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From: Steve Masticola
Subject: Mom's Cigars Pipe Shows

Two upcoming events at Mom's Cigars (1119 Central Park Ave.,
Scarsdale, NY 10583; 914-723-3088) might be of interest to Digest
readers.  The first is a showing of their antique meerschaum pipe
collection Sat.-Sun., Oct. 26.  The second is their Dunhill Pipe
Weekend (Sat. Oct. 25, 12-6 PM).  A Dunhill representitave will be
there, and all Dunhill pipes will be 50% off during the exhibition.

(At the NYPC show, I was asked to put this note in the PD.  Please
excuse my _lousy_ memory for names!)

				Smoke in peace,
				~\U Steve.

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From: ??????????????? (Michael Davis)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #240 -- August 4, 1997

I read with interest Dr. Ken Acker's comments on the hazards smoking by
different methods.  Another good source for an analysis of these hazards is
Dr. Marc Schneiderman's work which is located at www.cigargroup.com under
the link Cigars and Your Health.

[ The Digest has gotten a lot of solid, reasoned information from Marc
over the years.  Thanks for the reminder. -S. ]

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From: Gary Spiegel <????????????????????>
Subject: re: Dr. Ackerman's letter

  I would like to convey my thanks to Dr. Kenneth Ackerman for his
letter in the latest Digest. Smoking is hazardous and being in denial of
these facts does not make it disappear. I am a pipe smoker and should
not do so as I have a pulmonary disease, but love my pipes and English
tobaccos, especially when in contemplation or just plain indulging in
self-satisfaction. Dr. Ackerman is to be praised for his forthrightness
and his ability to look at the situation objectively as opposed to
knee-jerk reaction. 
  Pipe-smoking is a self-gratifying act in which I indulge, however, it
will probably cut my life span short. I believe in trying to limit my
indulgences. Over-indulgence in anything is dangerous to our well-being.
It is no different than eating excessively----I eat until I am full, no
  Thank you once again, Dr. Ackerman; just wanted you to know that your
letter was appreciated by one pipe-smoker. As my son is a Certified
Athletic Trainer, the dangers of any smoking by someone who has asthma
is fatal to that person. I smoke pipes for the sheer enjoyment; the
tobacco itself and the feel of the pipe in my hand.
Gary L. Spiegel    ????????????????????

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From: "Michael C. Fortner" <?????????????????>
Subject: me at a Graduation Party...

Scott and the gang,
	I graduated with a B.S. in Meteorology from Mississippi State
University this August 2nd.  A friend, who also graduated that day
with his M.S. in Meteorology, threw a graduation party my wife and I
attended.  There were several anti-smoker types there, so if you
wanted to smoke you had to go out on the back balcony.  I had just
received that day a package from my friend Jon Eubanks (owner of
Tobacco Depot in Houston) which had a pipe, some tobacco, and some
cigars for a graduation present.  I had the pipe and a 1.5 oz package
of one of his aromatic blends called "Honey & Clover".  As I was
sitting on the bacolny with my fellow lepers, I lit my pipe up and
began to smoke.  Those on the balcony all commented on the nice smell
of the tobacco, and a fellow pipe smoker asked where I got it from (I
told him of course).  Soon, a few of the anti-smokers came out to see
what we were talking about.  Every one of them commented on how
wonderful my pipe smelled.  I was pleasently supprised.  Later that
evening, I lit up a cigar (a Cuban) and got less than favorable
comments about it.  The moral of this story: dump the cigars in public
and go with a pipe!  ;)

	By the way, if you are curious, you can find The Tobacco Depot
on the web at http://www.tobaccodep.com/ and their pipes and pipe
tobacco are listed at http://www.tobaccodep.com/pipes.html.  He even
has a toll free number to call.  I hope this doesn't sound like an ad,
but I just wanted to share with y'all a good source of aromatic

                     Michael C. Fortner, Meteorologist
           ?????????????????     http://www2.netdoor.com/~n0ybc
    President and Founder, M.O.O.C.H.   http://fujipub.com/mooch.html

Masquerading as a man with a reason, My charade is the event of the season,
    And if I claim to be a wise man, it surely means that I don't know.

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From: Jeroen Greveling <?????????????????????????>
Subject: sharing/greetings

Dear Steve,

Thanks for PD #140 I've read it as always with pleasure.  How are you,
I hope your are all right, and you have had some holliday with your
familie.  My health is not good, the most of the time in must lay in
bed, even the sunday-masses become a very big problem, I must think
what I must do with the church and so, must I retire or ait at the
medicin they probably have for me in september??? I dont know, that
are difficult decisions.......................

Till so far, I must try to sleep, it's so hot here..............

brotherly greetings and respect,

PS Great that so many thinks about solutions for me !!!!!!!!!!

[ Indeed they are, and some, like David Denney, below, have been
working hard to make it happen! -S. ]

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From: "ddenney" <????????????????>
Subject: Jeroen Greveling


Just read PD 240, the posting about Mr. Greveling and thought I would drop
you a line to let you know.  I have been communicating with Jeroen (His
request) for a few weeks now and think we have come up with a solution.  I
am in the process of making him a pipe out of cherry with a loop on the
bottom.  I have made myself a cherry pipe and find it to be much lighter
than briar.  It also has a mildly absorbent property to it.  I hope it will
serve his needs.   

David Denney

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From: "ddenney" <????????????????>
Subject: Bishop Greveling update

Dear Mr. Masticola,

Hello, I hope the day is going well for you.  I just received confirmation
from Mark that he sent the stem I requested for Jeroen's pipe.  If you
don't remember, My name is David Denney and I e-mailed you about the
bishop's problem a while back and you forwarded my letter to Jeroen.  After
communicating with him about his limitations I think I have a pipe that he
can use.  He also seemed to think it would be a solution.  I am making the
pipe at this moment.  I now am waiting to fit the stem when it arrives, a
little finish sanding , and it should be about ready.  Someone in PD 240 (I
think) suggested the pipe that I designed.  It has a loop on the bottom to
provide a handle for him to hold.  I am making the pipe out of a block of
cherry.  It is a lightweight material that smokes really cool.  I figured
that a block of briar this size would be both heavy and expensive.  The
pipe is about 6 inches long and almost 4 inches tall and about 2 inches
thick (this is without stem :) ) but is suprisingly light.  I hope this
will help a fellow pipesmoker in need.  While I have a letter to you open
would you please put me on the PD mailing list.  I would appreciate it very
much.  I need to go and get ready for work I hope this will help you catch
up on the situation.  If you need any more information I would be happy to
answer any questions.

David Denney
418 Lois Lane
Lafayette TN 37083

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From: "ddenney" <????????????????>

First of all this message is going to Mark and Steve so please excuse any
syntax errors. :-)  I have finished the "Denney-Bishop" pipe (had to name
it something)  It is hopefully a solution to the problem suffered by
Jeroen.  I send this to Mark to show that his stem was not in vain and to
Steve to keep the update current.  I will send the pipe to Jeroen in a few
days.  With luck, it will arrive undamaged.  The bowl and handle are made
of cherry, carved from a solid block of wood.  I should have made pictures
throughout the process but oh well.  It is remarkably lightweight for its
size.  He should be able to hold it in his mouth with reasonable comfort. 
You have a hard profession Mark, the hardest part of this pipe is the fact
that I will not get the pleasure of the first bowl of fine tobacco.  Also
Steve, do you have any idea when th enext PD will be out? Just wondering.
David Denney
418 Lois Lane
Lafayette TN 37083
[ David, I've sent the image to Steve Beaty for our Web site.  Hope
you don't mind, but I know many of our readers are interested.  Thank
you for your generous efforts on Jeroen's behalf.  And thanks, Mark,
for bringing David's efforts to our attention! -S. ]

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From: Chris Reinhart <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: Several Things

Steve, et al.,
       Thanks for digest 240.  
       I came across an emoticon the other day I thought would be of
interest     :-?
(it's a pipe smoker, of course!).  
       Also, since I work in a library I get to see a lot of publisher's
catalogs.  There are fairly often nice pictures of authors smoking their
pipes and these always catch my eye.  Well, in the Fall/Winter 1997 Caxton
Publishers catalog there is a book featured that is titled "Hatchet, Hands
and Hoe: Planting the Pioneer Spirit" by Erica Calkins.  There is a picture
of Ms Calkins smoking what looks like a corn cob!  The book is about
"heritage gardening".  The review says "Erica Calkins is a specialist in the
stories and arts of daily pioneer living.  She believes that remembering is
a very powerful and positive force.  It is the tie that binds families,
communities, and cultures."  She must be a very interesting person!

Chris M. Reinhart
Collection Development Services
Auraria Library
University of Colorado at Denver
1100 Lawrence St
Denver, CO  80204-2095
(303) 556-3684
fax: (303) 556-2623

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From: "Bill Thacker" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes next fad?

Dr. Mike Crosbie wrote:

> I, too, have succumbed to the cigar
> craze, but have been smoking a pipe (first love) since high school--about 24
> years. My fear is that pipe smoking is on the verge of trendiness itself. I
> direct fellow readers to an article in the New York Times Sunday magazine a
> few weeks back that considered the cigar craze. The end of the timeline had
> this note: "June 1997: the inflated prices and widespread shortages of
> premium cigars have given birth to a trendy new vice: pipe smoking. Pipe
> tobacco sales are expected to increase nearly 25 percent over the next year.

Actually I'm not all that worried.  My hunch is that cigars, like
expensive beverages, are in vogue because they are a great way to show
how much money you have to waste.  "I'm so rich, I can pay seven
bucks for a six-pack of beer."  "Hah!  I'm so rich, I can pay seven
bucks for a half-pound of coffee!"  "Hah!  I'm so rich, I can spend
seven bucks for a cigar and then set it on fire!"

Cigars have for years connoted "stinking wealth".  Pipes, OTOH, have
been associated more with deep thought.  An oil tycoon smokes a cigar,
but an Oxford professor carries a pipe.  The yuppies who are buying
all those cigars want to act rich, but sadly there don't seem to be
many folk nowadays who want to act intelligent.

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Bill Thacker            Lucent Technologies    Network Wireless Systems
??????????????             (614) 860-5294                Columbus, Ohio       

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From: "Berggren, Edward P" <????????????????????????>
Subject: Smoking Trends

Hello, Steve and all,

To echo Dr. Mike Crosbie's report from the New York Times Sunday magazine   
about pipe smoking on the verge of becoming the next smoking trend, Time   
magazine recently ran a cover article on the cigar craze (you might have   
seen it, it had Jennie McCarthy on the cover indicating that she thinks   
cigars are yucky.  The article neglected to mention how many of us think   
Jennie McCarthy is yucky.  Beside, are we supposed to be influenced by   
the opinions of an ex-porno queen?).  At the end of this article, they   
too mentioned pipe smoking as the next big thing and that there are   
already the pipe smoking equivalents of cigar dinners and the like.  I   
have really mixed feelings about this.  On the one hand, it'll certainly   
be a boon for our long-suffering friends who own pipe shops and will help   
ensure that they remain in business to cater to our needs.  On the other   
hand, I would really hate to see pipe and tobacco prices triple and   
quadruple like they have for cigars.  I think I would be a good idea to   
continue to stock up on my favorite tinned blends.

I had a birthday last month and one of my good friends gave me a gift   
certificate to my local pipe shop, Poor Richard's of San Bernardino.   
 Well, it didn't take me long to get my little hiney up there and start   
perusing the cases.  Sure enough they had a pipe that I wanted.  It's a   
Karl Erik from Denmark with a brandy-snifter shaped bowl and very nice   
straight grain.  Very nice price for a very reasonable price.  My other   
good friend gave me a bottle of the MacAllan, so now it's puff, sip,   
puff, sip all weekend long.

It should be good summer.


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From: Michael George <???????????????>
Subject: Question for Kirsten owners

Hi all!

Steve&Steve, thanks so much for your effort in putting together the digest and
maintaining the web page!  They are immense help to beginners like me!

On to my question:  I got a Kirsten in May which I have enjoyed.  It has smoked
very well (burns every last shred of tobac!) and smells wonderful.  However,
I am recently having some difficulty with it and I'm hoping some of you Kirsten
pros can advise me...

I just started into some Cornell & Deihl Vanilla Cavendish (I don't know if the
tobac might be the issue) and the pipe isn't quite as enjoyable now...  The
tobac in the bottom of the bowl seems to be getting damp and doesn't want to
burn, yet the stem doesn't have near as much condensate in it as it did with
other tobaccos.  I thought perhaps I should pack less tightly and tamp when
I relight, but that hasn't helped.  Maybe I shouldn't do that?

Also, I notice now that as I smoke I salivate and have to either swallow or
spit.  I understand this is normal, so I'm waiting patiently while I get more
used to the pipe in my mouth.  However, since spitting isn't very convenient,
I often choose to swallow.  This tastes horrible and eventually upsets my
stomach a bit.  Is that normal?  I thought the Kirsten would remove much of
the tars and nicotine before they got to my mouth, and it did seem to do that

Things which might have a bearing on the problems:
	* It is now summer, perhaps the temp has an affect?
	* I use a butane lighter, would this perhaps be a butane problem?
	* I smoke the Kirsten almost every evening, is that too much for the
	  bowl, that it may be souring?  Should I take the bowl-screw out and
	  use the professor's cleaning process on it?

Could I be packing too tightly? too loosely?  Smoking too fast?  Perhaps this
tobacco just doesn't agree with me?  Tobacco too moist, maybe I should dry it
out a bit (is there a touch-test that I can use to know if the tobac is too
wet or too dry?)?

Any non-Kirsten smokers are welcome to answer, but I have heard the Kirsten is
a love-it-or-hate-it design.  I was loving it when I was smoking the other
brands of tobacco and when I smoked the Sweet English and Black Cherry from
C&D, so I don't know what the deal would be.  I had about a week away from the
pipes, maybe I forgot the proper way to pack...

Thanks (in advance) for any and all advice!


"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
                -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

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From: Robin Newberry <????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #240 -- August 4, 1997


I've been meaning to ask this for some time. Recently I was caught out and
about sans pipe. I found a cigar stand, but the owner/manager spoke only
cigar and I spoke only pipe, so I was reduced to generalities and
descriptions to get my needs across (what I wanted was the cigar equivalent
of 1Q). Needless to say, what I got was not what I *really* wanted. Is
there a cross reference for tobaccos; something that says "If you smoke
this type/Brand of pipe tobacco, the nearest cigar equivalent is..."? 

Thanks loads!

Robin Newberry

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From: ???????????????????????? (Alandp)
Subject: Some requests

Hello Steve,

It was good to see my last email to you made it just in the nick of
time for inclusion in PD#240.

I maintain a website that I call "Pictures of People with Pipes."  It
is a collection of famous, nearly-famous, or otherwise noteworthy
people who were pipe smokers, and all pictures show them with pipe.
There are some characters that I would like to add but have not been
able to come up with any pictures of them.  So, if anyone has pictures
of these that they could email me, or tell me where I might steal them
from the web, or even tell me the title of a book that I could scan it
from (and possibly I could check the book out at a library) I would
really appreciate it.  I am looking for any portrayals of Huck Finn
and Tom Sawyer smoking their corncob pipes as they did in the book
"Tom Sawyer."  Also, I would like to find pictures of Mr. Mitchell and
Mr. Wilson (from the comic "Dennis the Menace") smoking a pipe.  The
recent PBS special about WWII which has shown Joseph Stalin smoking a
pipe has made me think that I would really like to find a still
picture of him like this to add to the site.  I also do not have any
women pipe smokers featured, I feel that I really should add some but
have been unable to find any pictures of notable women pipe smokers at
all.  And finally, I'd like to make a general request for any pictures
that anyone might have of any noteworthy persons smoking a pipe.

The url for the site is
http://www.flash.net/~alandp/popwip/index.html.  So far I have more
than 50 different people included, and I add new ones all the time
(whenever I find a new one I can add).

Alan Peschke
Remove "_see.sig" from my email address when replying by email.

[I think I scanned in some Huck Finn images from the Ephemeris; not
claiming the scans are great, but check the web site! -S. ]

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From: schier <?????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #240 -- August 4, 1997

A great meerschaum calabash is available from GBD; I bought mine in
Israel but GBD should be available in the US.

Yitzchak Schier
Moscow, Russia

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From: "Brendan E. Quinn" <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: London

Hi Everyone,

First of all, permit me to introduce myself. I'm 26 years old, and although
I briefly flirted with pipe smoking in college, I really discovered the
pleasures of the briar about a year and a half ago (I thought it would help me
to quit smoking cigarettes, and it seems to have worked). Since then my pipe
collection has grown to 10 pipes, and I've happily begun on the quest for
the "perfect" tobacco, which seems to be much like my search for the "perfect"
pint of Guinness.... 

I prefer smooth pipes to sandblasts, and most of my collection are "mid-grade"
pipes, with a few seconds thrown in. I prefer natural blends to aromatics,
and before my trip I had been smoking a 60-40 mix of McClelland No 12, and
Ashton Limited Reserve 1995 (a pure red virginia flake).

I've been lurking here on the digest since issue 222, but I haven't posted
as I didn't really have anything relavant to say. I've just returned, however
from a trip to London, and I thought I'd say a few things about it.

While I was there I visited quite a few pipe and tobacco shops (it felt
wonderful to actually have the time to just browse), and I'll try to summarize
my impressions of each below.

Alfred Dunhill
	What can I say about this store? It was a beautiful showroom for all
kinds of luxury products. The pipe selection was wide, the museum in the
basement was interesting, and the clerk was friendly and knowledgeable about
the tobacco selection. As has been mentioned before, there are about 30 
hand blended "My Mixture" tobaccos which are only available from this shop,
(although the clerk told me that they will ship them world-wide). I can't
reccomend "Mr. Alfred's Own" highly enough. Its a wonderfully complex, spicy
medium-heavy english mixture, that is easily one of the best tobaccos I have
ever smoked. I also picked up 50 grams each of "White Spot" and "Durbar", but
I haven't tried them yet (I keep smoking the Mr. Alfred's!) All the custom
blends there sold for roughly 7.50 (in pounds sterling).

	Much like the Davidoff in NY, an elegant store with a large selection
and high prices.

Benson & Hedges
	I was really impressed with this shop, they had a large selection of
pipes in all price ranges, a good selection of tinned tobaccos (unfortunately,
all their loose tobacs were aromatics), a great selection of Cuban Cigars, a
comfortable "smoking room" in back, and a very friendly and knowledgable staff.

Bond's of Oxford Street (I don't remember the address, its on the North side
of Oxford St, between the Bond St. and Oxford Circus Underground stations).
	This is an odd little shop, very small, and it also sells "gift" sort
of things and souveniers. I honestly wasn't expecting much, but they had
a huge selection of pipes (not many super high grades, but lots of Peterson,
Big Ben, Larson, Ben Wade, Bjarne, BC, Stanwell, etc.) and a huge selection
of accessories. I bought a nice leather tobacco pouch here, and was surprised
at how reasonable it was. OTOH, there wasn't much room to move and there was a
steady flow of tourists.

 	This is my favorite shop of all, small, quiet, comfortable, and all
they sell is pipes. And what pipes! Everything from machine made 25 pound
pipes, through 700 pound freehand straight grain works of art. All of the
pipes I looked at here were good solid workmanship, and their hand made pipes
started at about 125 pounds. One interesting thing about this shop, is that
the only pipes they sell are Astley's, and it's the only place in the world
you can buy one. I had wanted to buy myself a pipe in London, and after going
from shop to shop, I decided to buy it here. I spent most of an afternoon 
browsing through their selection, and finally decided on a beautiful hand
cut author shape, with a silver band and a beautiful tight grain for 150
pounds. I'm very happy with it.

Wow, I seem to have gone on a bit longer than I'd planned so I'll say goodbye,
but I wanted to thank Steve M. for all his work, and all of you, for all the
wonderful advice and the sense of community that permeates Pipes Digest. Its
certainly made it easier for me in my transition from pipe newbie.


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From: Philip Burnard <?????????????????????>
Subject: Churchwardens and New 'old' Peterson pipes

This is an excellent list and thanks, Steve, for your work on it.

I am thinking of buying a 'churchwarden' - the pipe with the long, 
curved stem.  Has anyone out there got experience of smoking them?  I 
wear glasses and, at home, I find that repeated smoking, in the 
evening, causes excessive amounts of smoke to get in my eyes.  I 
thought that a churwarden might be an answer. The design of these 
things makes it look as though the bowl of the pipe is well away from 
your face - let alone your eyes!  I would welcome peoples' 

Recently, I brought two 40-year old (but unsmoked) Peterson pipes 
from a supplier in the UK.  They had been found in a warehouse in the 
Middle East.  They both smoke really well and have become favourites. 
Has anyone views on why 'old' pipes like this do so well?  I would 
have thought that they may have 'dried out' but does briar improve 
with age?

In a recent posting, I suggested that I found Falcon pipes ('systems' 
pipes that involve an aluminium stem) the best so far.  Having 
finally broken in a Peterson and having done quite well with the two 
'old' Petersons, I am fast coming to the view that 'plumbing' doesn't 
necessarily make for a smoother or even drier smoke.  I don't find 
the Petersons 'wet' at all - and the flavour of an ordinary briar 
seems much better than is the case with the Falcon.

Greetings to all and thanks, again, Steve, for all your work.

Dr Philip Burnard, Cardiff, UK

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From: Tony Casciato <??????????????????????>
Subject: [Pipes] Update

Hi Steve,

In the sixteen months since I started smoking my pipes after an eight year
layoff I have increased my pipe collection from 15 pipes to 26 pipes. The
new pipes include three Mark Tinsky pipes, four Meerschaums, a Savinelli,
two corncobs, and a Calabash. 

When I started with the pipes again, I was looking for a satisfactory pipe
tobacco. Most of the ones I had tried years ago did not taste good to me at
all. I have learned a lot about the proper way to smoke a pipe thanks in a
large part to the Pipes Digest, Pipes & Tobacco Magazine, Pipe Friendly
Magazine, and Hacker's Ultimate Pipes Book. Craig & Patti Tarlar (C&D) have
been a big help with their advice and trial packs. When I first tried
Balkan Sobranie 759 I liked it very much. I did not enjoy any of the other
tobaccos I tried. I bought samples of quite a few tocaccos, both store bulk
types and commercial types. I found that after leaving them for a time and
trying them again later. I now liked them. I have learned to appreciate and
enjoy a much wider spectrum of tobaccos from the heavy Latakia blends to
the lighter aromatics. I can now suit the tobacco to my mood at the time.

I just purchased a can of Briar Wipe from Craig Tarlar and used it as
recommended with a Handi Wipe cleaning cloth. I spent an hour this
afternoon cleaning the eighteen briar pipes. I cleaned out the stems with
100 proof Vodka soaked pipe cleaners and then wiped the pipes with the
Briar Wipe saturated cloth. Boy, do they sparkle. I can not believe how the
finish comes up after wiping. It is much better than any impregnated pipe
polishing cloth I have ever used.

I stilll use wooden matches to light up most of the time. My butane lighter
gets used very little now. I did purchase one of the Pipes Organization
Zippo lighters which I use when sitting on the porch if there is a wind. It
is a very handsome lighter. I will probably use it on my boat once I get
back to taking the boat out.

I'm looking forward to the CORPS pipe show in Richmond, VA in October and
hope to meet a lot of the folks who, up to now, I know only by e-mail or in

        Tony Casciato            ??????????????????????
           Hang in there...   You can outlast them...

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From: ??????????????? (Michael Davis)
Subject: dunhill ID

I'm looking for some help identifying a dunhill pipe.  I've read through
the web pages on identification but am still a little baffled.  The stamped
number is 34071.  The number is 5 digits vice 4 and therein lies my
trouble.  I know that it is a Bruyere Prince, made in 1981.  I know the
significance of the 071 portion, but the initial 34 is confusing.  Any
light that can be shed on this issue would be greatly appreciated.

"Some smiles show cheer; some merely show teeth"

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From: Tim Ramsay <??????????????????????????????>
Subject: The dreaded gurgles

This is just a short message to share my favourite solution to a gurgling
pipe.  I used to just pull the stem out in the middle of my smoke to rid
myself of that annoying moisture.  Although this method does work, it also
inevitably leads to a prematurely loose stem.  The other method which I've
seen people suggest is to run a pipe cleaner through the stem in the
middle of a smoke.  While I have found this to work somewhat, my pipe
seems to get gurgly again pretty soon and I also often smoke my pipe in
situations where it just isn't convenient to have a supply of pipe
cleaners around.  I would imagine that this is fairly common for any other
pipesters who smoke in places other than the home.
	Well, a few months ago I happened upon an extremely effective
solution which works anytime and anywhere.  I just put my thumb over the
bowl of my pipe and with a few sharp shakes I let centrifugal force drain
my pipe out through the end of the (still attached) stem!  It works very
well and even my most gurgly pipe only requires this treatment twice
during a smoke.  Of course, a well rested pipe is much less subject to the
gurgles than an over-smoked one and pipes rest much more quickly during
the dry winter than the humid summer up here in Ontario.  I hope this
information proves to be useful to somebody.  Happy smoking!

[ I'll try this the next time I get a case of the gurgles! -S. ]

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From: "Frederick A. Larson" <????????????????????>
Subject: Digest contribution

A member wrote about gurgling pipes and aromatics. Some thoughts from

* Perhaps the driest smoking aromatics are available from Cornell & Diehl.
* Many pipes have geometry and other factors which make them smoke wet. Try
another pipe.
* If your empty pipe makes noise when you pull on it, it'll smoke wet. The
more noise, the wetter the pipe. Air turbulence "shakes" the moisture out of
smoke. Some cigarette filters use turbulence to reduce tar and
nicotine--same principle. Your quietest empty pipe will be your driest
* Rapid smoking will make nearly any pipe gurgle (slow down). Fast draws
produce greater turbulence.

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From: Leon Pozen <?????????????????????>
Subject: The Golden Fleece Quest

Hi all. Although my question has little chances to be answered, I am
still posting it because at least twenty of my friends and relatives
smokers want to find out about this.

Back in Russia, where I came from, we used to buy a tobacco brand (I
think, it was Bulgarian stuff) named "Golden Fleece" - if this name
doesn't tell you anything, try to remember the Argonauts, a greek myth.
The smell of this aromatic tobacco was something incredible. Almoust
every kid from former USSR cherishes a memory of that smell.

When I started smoking a pipe in United States, I went from store to
store, smelling each and every tobacco in hope that I will find a
similar smelling brand or blend. Nothing even close! All aromatics here
smell like candy store - it's either vanilla, nuts, or fruits and
berries. But the smell of Golden Fleece was something of it's own, so I
can't even describe it, because I can't draw any analogies.

Well, my question is - if anyone in US knows about "Golden Fleece" and
can tell me where I can get something similar tobacco, I and all above
mentioned people will be very grateful.

Leon Pozen
NetLive Communications, Inc.

Bus: 212-343-8564
FAX: 212-343-8569

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From: "William L. Leslie" <??????????????>
Subject: product source

My dad is a pipe smoker. Years ago I purchased a pipe named "White
Elephant". It is a very good quality pipe that uses a 9mm. charcoal filter.
I have been unable to find this brand again.
Can you give me some direction?

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From: ????????????????
Subject: Need help with a Pipe questions


Hi...I have a friend who is writing an article on Actors in recent films who
are smoking pipes. He is looking for examples of this. We have Pierce Bronson
in MARS ATTACKS...if you  recall any other instances or any actors or
celebrities who smoke pipes off screen that information would be greatly

I need any information you can come up with by Sunday, August 17th.



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From: ??????????????? (Michael Davis)
Subject: Cigar Listservers

While not a "Pipes Digest", here are two list servers that deal solely with
cigars and associated subjects.

Contact Kendal Jackson at ??????????????????????  He runs a "Cigar Info"
list server.  This has some industry reps, and mostly guys like me who like
to sell, buy, swap and trade cigars.

Another is run by Fuji Publishing.  this is purely up to date industry info
about who's got what, and what's hot, etc.  You can find a sign up form on
fuji cigar page (www.fujipub.com/cigar).  Hope this helps and if there is
anything else I can do, let me know.

I have passed this on to Craig.

"Some smiles show cheer; some merely show teeth"

[ Thanks, Mike!  I'm sure our many primarily-cigars readers will
appreciate both listservs. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

reservations:  1-800-432-2294
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From: ??????????????
Subject: News paper articles for info of PD


I don't know if this is suitable for Pipes Digest, but I thought it might be
informative for you.  They are all from the Washington [DC] Times indicating
that at least someone in this crazy place has a bit of common sense.

I have no idea how to get this to you other than an attached file.  If there
is a better way, please let me know.  It is a taxt file.

No contact has been made with the Times, so I have no idea about copyright

Hope this is of interest to you.  Thank you for the enjoyment I receive from
reading each edition.

Skip Russell

Cigar, Mr. President?

"With or without your permission, I'm going to smoke a cigar"
Former National Security Adviser Anthony Lake

"Well, then come on over, because I'm having one on the balcony."
* President Clinton, June 9,1995

When US. forces rescued downed pilot Scott O'Grady from right under
the noses of Bosnian Serb thugs two years ago, there was only one
thing to do: Have a cigar. Mr. Lake joined the president right there
on the Trurnan balcony at the White House after midnight, and the two
puffed languorously away in their moment of triumph.

Those days are gone, victim of a coercive health campaign led by the
very same president. The Washington Post reports Mr. Clinton is
preparing to announce a sweeping new smoking ban on federal property
that would prevent anyone from lighting up even outside building

Exceptions would be few. The order would permit smoking only in rooms
with separate ventilation systems whose emissions go directly outdoors
or in certain undercover, mnilitary or diplomatic situations.

"It's becoming clearer and clearer that this is a significant health
risk," an unidentified administration official told The Post, "and we
wanted a uniform government policy that brings all the agencies up to
that level."

Actually, it isn't getting clearer at all. Perhaps the best-known
study to suggest a health risk from so-called second-hand smoke comes
from the Environmental Protection Agency. Independent researchers from
the Congressional Research Service found EPA's methodology so flawed
as to undermine its overall findings that passive smoke causes some
3,000 cancer deaths among non-smokers every year: The agency didn't
take into account other risk factors that might have changed the
results, for example, or the fact that exposure data came not from
measurements but from interviews with either the subjects of the study
or their relatives.

CRS analysts who testified about the EPA findings were quite blunt in
their assessment.  "Our evaluation of that evidence led to two
conclusions: first, the evidence that passive smoking causes disease
is far less certain than the effects for active smoking; Second, the
health costs of these potential passive smoking effects, which we
translated into a tax per pack, are likely to be quite small."

This use of junk science to justify junk policy is all of a piece with
today's frenzied mindset that there is no standard that can't be
dropped and no law that can't be changed in the interest of the war on
tobacco. The state of Florida has carefully stripped tobacco companies
of legal defenses-such as pointing out that the state itself once
manufactured and distributed cigarettes and therefore has "unclean
hands"-that would be available to any other court defendant.  Florida
wants the industry to reimburse it for "tobacco-related" Medicaid

Hillary Clinton, meanwhile, has attacked actress Julia Roberts for
smoking a cigarette in a movie but not for other vices portrayed in
the movie - including prostitution. This new brand of feminism turns
back the clock to the good old days when women had to smoke out of
sight or not at all.

White House officials say the president could announce the new order
as early as next week. That's not much time for federal workers or,
for that matter, the president to prepare. If he's not careful, he may
have a lot of company on the 'Truman balcony.

The following are two letter to the Editor from the same paper

Kill your dog, cheat on your wife but, for the childern's sake, don't smoke

In her July 31 column, "Use of tobacco in films gives the wrong
signal" Hillary Rodham Clinton bemoans the adverse influence of
Hollywood on our children. As an example, she refers to the recent
movie "My Best Friend's Wedding" in which Julia Roberts' character is
constantly shown smoking.

Why doesn't Mrs. Clinton mention the positive portrayal of drugs,
casual sex and sexual perversions in Hollywood productions? Sex is
almost never portrayed inside marriage. And how about the negative
portrayal of religious figures, especially Christians? Why doesn't
Mrs. Clinton mention the lurid attire, foul language and gratuitous
violence that have become routine in Hollywood movies?

Mrs. Clinton says, "As any parent knows, children are often swayed by
popular culture." But it was her crowd of social and political
liberals who treated Dan Quayle as an intolerant rube for suggesting
that the "Murphy Brown" show mocked the importance of
fathers. Mr. Quayle was ridiculed with taunts of "it's fiction" and
dismissed by the liberal elite.

I do not disagree with Mrs. Clinton that films portraying smoking can
have an adverse influence. I just find it very curious that she passes
over the truly egregious examples to focus on the one that the
government can tax. What about the examples that hurt children but
don't bring money into Washington -don't they count?



Even though I don't smoke, the government attack on the tobacco
industry is alarming. Now comes first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton,
complaining that movies show too many lead character smoking. As
usual, she hides behind children to support her argument.

Although I appreciate Mr. Clinton's desire to protect American youth,
I worry that government encroachment into legal businesses will not
stop with tobacco. The goal of big government is bigger
government. Today it's tobacco - tomorrow who knows?


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From: Jim Skrydlak <???????????????????>
Subject: Skallorna

I'm happy to be a new subscriber to Pipes Digest.  I notice from
some back issues that other subscribers also remember Skallorna
tobacco.  I remember buying it in my graduate school's cafeteria,
of all places (particularly surprising given that I went to grad
school here in Silicon Valley).

Can anybody make an educated guess as to what Skallorna's composition
was?  What tobacco today would be similar?  Although I was smoking
a pipe back in 1973, I stopped in 1979, and only started again a
couple of years ago, so I'm not really an expert on these things.

Jim Skrydlak

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From: ??????????????? (Jeff)
Subject: posting from pipes page

I am new to this list and first wanted to say i've enjoyed reading the
backlogs of digests.  I am a 28 year old graphic artist from Lincoln,
Nebraska.  I've smoked a few cigars in my early 20's (some good, some
bad.  I think the best one I had was a Macanudo; at least I think it
was a Macanudo.  It's been about 7 years ago.).  Anyway, I just
recently had 6 pipes that belonged to a friends father-in-law
"donated" to a worthy cause (me).  I sent away for some mail order
catalogs, but have only received one (McCranie's).  So, I ordered my
first supply of tobacco from them.  I received it today and enjoyed my
first pipe of tobacco (Honey Cavendish).  Now, i'm not doggin' pipe
smoking, and maybe this just isn't the best type to start out with
(they said it was), but for some reason, I thought it would be a WHOLE
lot better than it was.  Kind of reminded me of one of the
middle-of-the-road cigars I tried about 8 years ago.  Anyway, I also
purchased three other brands (Sweet Savannah, Coventry, and Dolphin).
I'll let you know what I think of these other three.  This isn't to
say I won't finish the Honey Covendish, but it didn't really trip my

BTW, I love reading all of these stories about "the best smoke I've
had was . . . ."

Any suggestions would be appreciated for this newcomer to the hobby.  Thanks.


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From: "Steven McPeak" <?????????????????????>
Subject: Bufflehead Tobacco Review

What follows is a review of aromatic tobaccos offered by David Windsor
at the BuffleHead Tobacco shop (http://www.webcon.com/bufflehead/ ). 
I came across the Bufflehead while visiting the Pipe and Pouch
(http://www.prima.net/ronb/).  The Bufflehead offers a full range of
tobaccos, from English and Virginias to American Aromatics.  Since I
prefer aromatics I purchased several of his blends to taste.  These
are my thoughts.  The descriptions following the names are from the
website. (Disclaimer: I do not have any financial or personal
investment in Bufflehead Tobacco Shop.)

First of all let me state some generalities that cover all of the
following blends.  The tobaccos, being aromatics are slightly moist to
touch, but are not overly wet.  As with any tobacco they can be packed
too tightly if you are heavy handed but on the average all pack well. 
They burn evenly without getting too hot.  All of us who smoke
aromatics know that they can become `slurpy', the Bufflehead blends do
not have this problem.  I seldom have to use a pipe cleaner to soak up
the moisture.  They all burn clean and evenly.  I believe the reason
being that the tobacco used is of higher quality that is availble from
the `mass' blends available from the tobacco jars.  David states that
the McClelland Tobacco Company blends his Virginian and aromatics, and
the quality really comes through. Now, on to the particulars. 

The first three are offered as 100 gram tins.

Blue Winged Teal - A Virginia balanced mixture of lemon and orange
Carolinas with toasted Virginia added for softness. A beautiful mild
ribbon Cavendish flavored with honey. The tin aroma was light, the
honey scent was soft and the tobacco slightly moist to touch.  It lite
well and burn evenly.  The smoke was a little on the light side also,
I could taste the sweetness of the Virginias and the subtle hint of
the honey addition.  A very good mid-day smoke.  The flavor lasted
through the bowl and the room aroma was quite pleasant.  Goes well
with a Fume' Blanc or light ale or steam.

Cinnamon Teal - Ribbon cut Virginia tobaccos and Black Cavendish
combined with dark chocolate and roasted coffee for a smooth taste and
rich aroma. When I opened this tin I was struck by the aroma.  It has
the aroma of walking into a coffee shop.  The tobacco is dark, black
with dark brown streaks.  Damp to the touch, it packs evenly, though
it sticks slightly to the fingers.  It lite easily and evenly and the
smoke it white.  The first thing I noticed with the sweetness of the
smoke.  It really does taste like coffee with chocolate.  The
sweetness really dominates and stays constant throughout the smoke.  I
had really expected the taste to recede as it does with most
aromatics.  It goes well with a glass of Merlot, or a stout or porter.
 The room aroma seems to be the same as the tin aroma, like someone
brewing a pot of coffee.   The tobacco is high on my list of favorites
and can be an all day smoke.

 Stellars Eider - A mixture of mild American Virginias, stove black
 cavendish and rich Burley tobacco. Aclassic tobacco with the
 delightful fragance of fresh peaches.
Yes it does smell like peaches when you open the can.  A dark tobacco
with a light aroma is a bit of a surprise.  I've never cared much for
`fruit flavored' tobaccos was I was apprehensive about this one.  One
first lighting the smoke was bland and taste-less.  A couple of puffs
in to the bowl and a very subtle flavor began to make its presence.  A
flavoring of sugar and peaches had established itself in the smoke. 
Its very pleasant without becoming domineering as with other `fruit'
blends.  I liked it, though it's more of a dessert smoke that a `day'
smoke.  Goes well with White Zinfendal and any lager. 

Black Duck - Black Cavendish tobacco with the taste and aroma of
vanilla. Fired Black Cavendish which may be smoked by its self or as a
base for other blends. Most of us `aromatic' smokers started out with
vanilla based blends, some of us still prefer this as the tobacco of
choice for our daily smoking.  Bufflehead's Black Duck is closer to
Peter Stokkeby's B&B or Black Beauty than to Lane's.  It is moist, but
not clumpy.  It burns well and the taste stays through the bowl,
unlike those other blends that become cloying half way through the
smoke.  For the straight vanilla smoker, this is at least worth
trying.  Works well with semi-dry reds and any american beer.

Masked Duck - Black Duck blended with burley and Maryland tobacco for
a lighter mixture. Suitable for day smoking with an aroma that is very
pleasing to others. Slow burning and one of our most popular aromatics
for years. Here is where Black Duck really shines.  Blended with the
cool burley and the aromatic and tasty Maryland this blends has become
a favorite of mine.  The flavor of the tobacco comes through with the
BD supporting the quality of the tobacco rather than covering the
short comings of a lesser quality as with cheaper vanilla blends.  I
like this one a lot.  It is a very good choice for an all day smoke. 
It's sweet and has a unique flavor that doesn't dull the taste buds. 
Good with dry reds or whites and beers on the hoppy side.

Black Brant
Flavor and taste of cherry. Again we have taken our Black Duck and
blended it with other tobaccos. Cavendish and burleys combined with
the aroma of cherry have made this tobacco a favorite of the
discriminating smoker and those around him. I've always shide away
from any tobacco that had the word `cherry' in the description.  I
remember my first cherry blend.  It smelled great, it tasted like
burning hackberry leaves.  In fact, I didn't mean to order this
tobacco, I had mistakenly written the wrong name on my order.  After
receiving this blend I kept putting off trying a sample.  Finally I
gave in a loaded up a bowl. Man, was I surprised.  The flavor of the
tobacco was amazing.  The smoke was cool, very sweet, yet had a slight
tangyness I never tasted in a tobacco before.  To me, smoking a cherry
blend was for the benefit of others, you gave up taste for the aroma. 
This blend has the best of both, nice room aroma with a delicious
flavor.  It's good for all day and especially around others, its aroma
is inviting without being overbearing.  Excellent cherry blend.

Ruddy Duck
By combining our Black Duck with ribbon burleys and Virginias we have
achieved a taste and aroma that pleases everyone. A truly light,
enjoyable aromatic mixture. This is the compliment of Masked Duck. 
It's different from MD in the blend of tobaccos, yet it has the same
basic layer, that being BD.  The Virginias come through the smoke in a
discernable manner which I like.  My own private blend was two types
of  Golden Virginias blended with vanilla cavendish.  So this blend
struck a chord with me when I lit the bowl the first time.  The flavor
lasted, as with all of the blends, through the bottom of the bowl. 
This ones a real keeper and any aromatic smoker should enjoy the
flavor, it has what we look for, taste and very good aroma.  Again any
dry to semi-dry red or white, ale or lager leaning toward the hoppy
side.  Excellent with Sierra Nevada if you can get it.


Steven McPeak
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From: Suzanne Carmichael <?????????????????????????>
Subject: collec.associa, briar sources

Dear Steve,  

I got your name from someone at The Smoke Shop forum group on CompuServe
who thought you might be able to answer a question for me.  My husband is
a pipe maker (elegant free-form sculptured pipes, two of which won
3rd place in a museum competition)) and is interested in three things:

        1) sources for top-quality briar (chunks of raw briar with one edge
that still has the rough outer surface on it - not interested in
pre-drilled blocks of briar that are more for hobbyists).
        2) sources for top-quality pipe stems 
        3) names/addresses for top pipe collectors' associations (we'll be
interested in advertising his work, perhaps placing ads, etc.).
        Also, we'd love any ideas on how to find high-end pipe markets
where we might be able to reach collectors interested in purchasing his
wonderful pipes.
        Any help would be most appreciated. You can reach me at
[email protected] compuserve.com

Suzanne Carmichael (I'm the marketing partner in this endeavor).

[ I sent a couple of answers to questions 1 and 2 to Suzanne; others
welcome. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: web page

I have setup a web page at:

It covers various interests and links dealing with pipes, I Ching, music,
etc.  Enjoy

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn'

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From: ?????????????????????????????????????????
Subject: Introduction

Item Subject: cc:Mail Text
     Hello Steve,
     Thank you for sending me the Digest ! I have been reading and using 
     the information you have available for some time, and I have to say, 
     besides it being a very friendly site and a wonderfull source of 
     information, it helped me a lot. Sometimes I read that you have 
     difficulties finding information and products there, in the North 
     Hemisphere ! Could you possibly imagine how things are here in South 
     America ? I live in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and although it is the largest 
     city in this part of the globe, it is very hard to find GOOD stuff 
     (whatever you can imagine) related to that little things we love: 
     pipes ! And when you find, be prepared, it will break your bank 
     account ! Normally this happens with any kind of imported products !
     I am a 34 years old guy, Computer Sales Engineer for an American 
     company branch office (Hewlett-Packard), and I started smoking pipes 7 
     years ago trying to free myself from that killing artifact: cigarette!
     That worked for one year, and I set my collection at that time with 
     low grade pipes (the ones I could find here and in my pocket range: 
     GBDs, Savinellis, BBBs). I went back to cigarettes due to pressures 
     generated by "internal policies" stablished by managers and 
     co-workers, and finally, last year we were prohibited to smoke inside 
     the building, so I promptly decided to get back to pipes, decision 
     also supported by my wife (I was not allowed to smoke cigarettes in my 
     home, but now I can smoke my pipes) and friends.
     During that 7 years, I had a chance of acquiring a Dunhill and 2 
     Savinelli Autographs. The smoking characteristics were so better 
     compared to the ones I had, that I decided to re-start my collection, 
     letting all the lower grades pipes go. As I had spent money on those, 
     I felt an obligation to smoke them, and of course, the smoking 
     pleasure was not the same I usually got from the Dunhill and 
     Savinellis. So I thought: why do I have to insist using the ones I do 
     not like ? I am not getting pleasure from them ! That was the starting 
     I now have a collection of 8 Dunhills, 4 Autographs, 2 Castellos, 1 
     Ashton, 1 Butz-Choquin and 1 Mastro-de-Paja (and that acquisitions 
     were only possible because of the Internet and mail-orders), and that 
     will grow with another Ashton and a Ser Jacopo Gemline Garnet which 
     are coming very soon !
     I think this is it for an introductory message, and again, 
     congratulations for the initiative and page you set ! It is worth 
     spending any second I have to read and browse through the information 
     I wish things get better for you there, as we can see some histeric 
     movements against smokers ! Things here in Brazil are a lot easier for 
     us, even though some restrictions are being implemented in closed 
     spaces (malls, business buildings), but I believe they are nothing 
     compared to the ones you face there. Let's hope that good sense wins 
     the battle !
     Thank you and see you.
     Jose Carlos

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Danish Briar Root Pipes

We have optained a number of hand carved Danish Brial Root pipes, all
slightly smoked, but in original boxes from manufactures such as Ben Wade,
Nording, Knute , Soren and several others.  Can you give us additional
information as to whether these pipes have any value.  We have been told they
could be worth $50 to $200 each, but don't know about the validity of this
information.  Any help would be appreciated.

[ Sounds like they well might! -S. ]

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From: "Alberto Brignone" <?????????????>
Subject: A solitary summer Italian night

20 August 97

Dear Steve and dear pipe friends,
It's the first time I write to you, and I'd like to thank you very much for
this digest!
Every time I receive a new issue I read it with a lot of pleasure!
First of all I'd like to tell you something about me:
I live in a little town near Milan (Italy) I'm an undergraduate engineer
student 26 years old and I begun smoking pipe since January '96.
I haven't any particular thing to tell you, but this summer night I'm home
alone, my fiancee is far away, my parents too, and I'm.... | :-((((
(veeeery sad!)
So I lighted up one of my pipes (a Butz Choquin) smoking Skandinavik ligh
a proper tobacco for a late smoke, and I'm listening a very good CD (Pat
Metheny - Secret story)
I hear thunders very far away (may be there's a storm over the Lombardy

Well, that's all for now!
By and thank you again for pipe digest!
P.S. Please excuse me for some grammar mistakes!!!

<><><><>Alberto Brignone<><><><>

<><><> e-mail:  ????????????? <><><>

"La preoccupazione dell'uomo e del suo destino devono sempre costituire
l'interesse principale di tutti gli sforzi tecnici.
Non dimenticatelo mai in mezzo a tutti i vostri diagrammi ed alle vostre
(A. Einstein)

more or less:

"The worry of man and of his destiny should always constitute the main
interest of all the technical efforts.
Don't forget it ever in the middle of all your diagrams and your equations"
(A. Einstein)

From: "Carmelo Portelli" <?????????????????????>
Subject: New To Pipe Smoking

Hello Steve,

Listem I am 23 years of age and I decided some three weeks ago to quit
smoking fags and start to somke a pipe.  I purchased a "Dr. Plumb" bent
pipe for around $18.00 (converted from Maltese Liri) and some tobacco and
decided to give it a whirl.  After going from one tobacco brand to another
I found one that I like... Captian Black... the one in the gold wrapper
:-)...  So far so good firstly I was reading a few articles about how to
smoke a pipe, yours was one of them.  Frist of all why does your tongue get
bitten/burnt?  I was suffering from this and I thought that it was the
tobacco.  Secondly I read in an other article that the bowl of the pipe
should not get hot!  Mine gets rather warm how do you stop this?  If you
puff at longer intervalls the pipe goes out! ... Thirdly do you swallow the
somke like when you smoke fags? and do you need to use a filter in the
bowl?...Lastly do you know where I can order some Pipe Sweetner over the
net? and what is its purpose?

Sorry to bother you with these questions but in Malta the old men that
smoke the pipe would somke a bannana peal if they could...and they would
not know what pipe sweetner is for so I had to ask over the net...

Thanks for your time and best regards

Carmelo Portelli

[ Carmelo, probably the tongue bite and the hot bowl both come from
puffing too fast, and that might be due to not getting the bowl lit
well or lack of experience.  Try using the "charring light" technique,
and make sure the entire top of the bowl is lit to a white ash. As for
swallowing the smoke (inhaling?), pipe smokers typically refrain from
doing so. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Just thought I'd drop a quick note to all regarding my new American
pipe by Mark Tinsky.  After contacting him via e-mail (15 minute
response time!) he called and offered to send a couple of pipes on
approval.  The 3 bent Dublins and 1 bent Bulldog arrived 2 days later.
I chose the Bulldog and am very pleased to report that it smoked cool
and dry from the very first bowl!  Being a schoolteacher, I cannot
afford all the pipes I want, so I offered the remaining pipes to a
friend, who took his choice of the Dublins.  I can strongly recommend
mark's pipes to anyone looking for a fine American made pipe that
won't send you to the poorhouse!

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From: "????????????????????" <????????????????????>
Subject: Smokers' Website

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Besides picking the finest products available,
we will also supply you with answers to any questions you may have.

URL: http://www.pipeshop.com
E-Mail: ????????????????????

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From: ????????????? (Dale Morrison)
Subject: Balkan Sobranie


Dear Steve,

Many thanks for all your work in keeping us pipe smokers together.

Let me start with a question. Then a tale.

Question: What happened to Sobranie of London?  The company has apparently
          abandoned the manufacture of Balkan Sobranie.  Has it gone
          out of business entirely?  Does anybody know why?

Tale:     Long ago, in the early 70's when I was living in Europe, I smoked
	  Sobranie pretty regularly because I could get it relatively
          cheaply.  Since then, I'd switched mainly to Danish or
          Dutch Cavendish because it was easy to smoke all day.

          A couple months ago, I noted in the Finck Cigar Company (nee
          Wally Frank) catalogue that Sobranie was no longer marketed.
          My interest was piqued.  I went to Kirsten's tobacco shop
          at Fisherman's Terminal here in Seattle to see if they had
          any.  The cupboard was bare.  Sally Kirsten did, however,
          recommend house blend #2 as a reasonably close substitute.
          Close, but no cigar, to coin a phrase.

          Last month, when I stopped into a little gift/tobacco store
          to get a pack of Gauloise, I saw a 7-oz can of Sobranie gathering
          dust on the shelves.  I bought it, smoked a bowl and returned
          to memories of youth.  A good, no, a wonderful smoke.

          To lay in a supply of a reasonable substitute before Prohibition
          arrives, I ordered 14 oz. of what Finck calls its generic
          Sobranie.  I knew something was wrong when my wife said it
          smelled good.  A couple more puffs assured me that its resemblance
          to Sobranie was about the same as mine to Walter Raleigh.  It's
          a pleasant smoke, but remote from its namesake.  Finck's Istanbul
          mixture is much closer.

          Intent on getting some more of the real thing, I went to an
          over-priced pipe shop near the Northgate shopping center. (The
          shop was formerly in the center. It apparently was exiled when 
          the center became, oh, praise the lord, completely smoke-free.)
          I discovered there that Sasieni has filled the gap with something
          called Original Formula BALKAN Smoking Mixture.  Even the package
          graphics mimic ... within the bounds of copyright strictures...
          the real Sobranie.  Its taste is, to my old palate, the same.
          My wife says it smells the same.  To prove her point, she gives
          a fair imitation of our cat coughing up a fur ball.

	  Smoke in peace.  Dale Morrison


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From: <??????????????????>
Subject: Whats the story

can you give me the scoop on Julius Vez? I have heard very 
mixed reviews and would like to know if he makes a quality 
pipe or not. I am looking into his stuff and want to know 
if it is worth the cost.

Aaron Pelz						

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From: ???????????????????? (John O'Bryan)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Yes, I'm still here and busier than ever.  Sorry I haven't written in
a while but with my wife giving birth to child number four (a
girl-child weighing in at a paultry 9 lb. 7 oz.) remodeling our house
to fit said child and working two jobs I have been busy.  Everyone is
asleep now and I have found a moment to drop a line.

How many of you have been in on the birthing process?  I've been
through all four of mine and I am ever impressed that women can do it.
Speaking as a man I would be terrified to push something so huge out
something so small.  I am convinced that if men had to give birth we
would have to make a contest out of it to get through it... "Hey Bob!
Glad to see you had your baby.  How much did you push? Only a 75?  Ha!
When I had my first one I pushed a 93...Shot it 6 feet 8 inches."

Enough about babies.  The first printing of My Lady Nicotine is going
fast.  We hope to do a second printing sometime in the fall.  However,
if you want a copy for Christmas I would suggest getting your orders
in now.  $14.99 is all it takes to own a copy of the wittiest book
ever written on the subject of life and the pipe smoker.  Many have
purchased and many have loved.  If you would like more information
email ????????????????????

On the subject of pipes. I am looking for a new pipe.  I smoke a
couple of no name bents, a no named straight and a peterson #312.
Does anyone have a suggestion where to go from here?

John O'Bryan
Thornbush Anthologies

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From: ????????????????????? (Tim)
Subject: posting from pipes page

In some back issues, I saw some postings in which people discussed
nasal snuff. I recently discovered this archaic vice, and would be
interested if those who are more knowledgable would reccommend brands
etc. (I've tried Ozona President, Gawith's Apricot Snuff, Packard's
Club Snuff, and Dean Swift's cherry flavoured varieties, and my one
complaint is that they're all mentholated.  On a more pipely note, I
also read in a back issue of the Digest that English occultist
Aleister Crowley smoked pure Perique. However, two separate
biographies that I just read, one of which was written by a close
associate of Crowley's, state that he smoked Latakia. (I've tried
both, when I got a bunch of tobaccos so I could waste my summer
blending my own; latakia tastes better, but perique could be a legal
substitute for marijuana... my personal blend is 1/2 burley, 1/4
latakia, and 1/4 perique: The English Blend From Hell...)Does anyone
know what other tobaccos, if any, The Great Beast (as Crowley called
himself) smoked?
Happy smoking, 

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From: "Eric F. Kahler" <??????????????????????????>
Subject: An unexpected find

Hi all,

I've just returned from a very fulfilling (and very inexpensive) vacation - 
the annual Kahler family reunion.  I always have an excellent time when I'm 
around my family, and I always seem to learn a little more about the Kahler 
family history at every reunion and this year was no exception.  I enjoyed 
having morning coffee with my uncle while we watched hummingbirds eat from 
the feeders he placed near his large windows.  I was able to catch the sun 
rise over round lake from my relatives boat dock.  And to my delight, I 
learned: my Grandfather (who died before my birth) was a pipe smoker, the 
type of tobacco he smoked, and that my cousin has my grandfather's pipe 
collection and is willing to place some of his pipes in my care!  It is 
quite nice to have my hobby in some way connected to my family history.

After the reunion my wife and I meandered down State Street in Madison.  To 
my disappointment we found that the shop my uncle once called a "pipe and 
tobacco store" is now a head shop or drug paraphernalia store.  But we did 
happen upon a used book store, which had in their stock a copy of "My Lady 
Nicotine" which I had previously given up on finding!  I read what I could 
on the road, but now after the 1030 mile drive home I'm just beginning 
chapter IV entitled "My Pipes." :)

This should be a good read.

Eric F. Kahler

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #241 -- September 2, 1997
  2. Subject: Th Show
  3. Subject: Nikos Levin phones disconnected
  4. Subject: NASPC Sept. 27 Swap/Sell Pipe Show
  5. Subject: Mom's Cigars Pipe Shows
  6. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #240 -- August 4, 1997
  7. Subject: re: Dr. Ackerman's letter
  8. Subject: me at a Graduation Party...
  9. Subject: sharing/greetings
  10. Subject: Jeroen Greveling
  11. Subject: Bishop Greveling update
  12. Subject: Several Things
  13. Subject: Pipes next fad?
  14. Subject: Smoking Trends
  15. Subject: Question for Kirsten owners
  16. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #240 -- August 4, 1997
  17. Subject: Some requests
  18. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #240 -- August 4, 1997
  19. Subject: London
  20. Subject: Churchwardens and New 'old' Peterson pipes
  21. Subject: [Pipes] Update
  22. Subject: dunhill ID
  23. Subject: The dreaded gurgles
  24. Subject: Digest contribution
  25. Subject: The Golden Fleece Quest
  26. Subject: product source
  27. Subject: Need help with a Pipe questions
  28. Subject: Cigar Listservers
  29. Subject: posting from pipes page
  30. Subject: News paper articles for info of PD
  31. Subject: Skallorna
  32. Subject: posting from pipes page
  33. Subject: Bufflehead Tobacco Review
  34. Subject: collec.associa, briar sources
  35. Subject: web page
  36. Subject: Introduction
  37. Subject: Danish Briar Root Pipes
  38. Subject: A solitary summer Italian night
  39. Subject: New To Pipe Smoking
  40. Subject: posting from pipes page
  41. Subject: Smokers' Website
  42. Subject: Balkan Sobranie
  43. Subject: Whats the story
  44. Subject: posting from pipes page
  45. Subject: posting from pipes page
  46. Subject: An unexpected find
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