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Subject: Pipes Digest #242 -- September 20, 1997

	       Pipes Digest #242 -- September 20, 1997
   Copyright (C) 1997 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 3065

Welcome to new members:

	Robert C. Corr
	Jay Figurski
	Leonard Craver
	Ken Johnston
	Tom Galli
	Gary Tripp
	James R. Wallace, Sr.
	Shawn Kisor
	James Knoll
	Don W. Blevins
	Rick Possett
	Steve Johnson
	Tom Schultz
	Rod Wright
	George Kalvinsky
	Matthew Higham
	Francois Pecheux
	Richard Franzblau
	Rick Orris
	John J. Kasprzak
	Milt Fitterman
	Carl Hurley
	Chris Kirk
	Thomas Baugh
	Edward Lilley
	Earle Morris
	Jonathan Lenaghan
	David Talty
	Gary Lucchese
	Bill Taylor
	Greg Allen
	Butch Gilbert
	Lawson R. Bader
	C. Baker Egerton
	Clinton Morgan
	Tim Rieker
	Gerald G. Frick
	Dana Sanderson
	Russ M. Collier
	Bill Dorothy
	Neal Holt
	Timothy J. Quinlan
	Oliver Spiegler
	James I. Slaydon III
	Christian M. Chensvold
	Gerrit J. Rensink
	Timothy J. Quinlan
	Lech Kowalewski
	Peter Keegan
	Travis Reynolds
	John W Fairbanks Jr.
	Italo Paini
	David Warren Shaw
	Bob Link
	John Brennen
	Bill Hundley III
	Jim Weinzierl
	Dave Root
	Mike Hagan
	Rod Maupin
	Ed Difalco
	Damian Elliott
	Rosario Puglisi
	Harold J. Degenhardt
	Jerry Barron
	Gregory John Saur
	Craig Wicks
	Gary Riedel
	Christopher Povie
	John T. Ng
	Bob Peck
	Joshua D. Short
	Musab Balbale
	Rodney Spivey
	Bernie Charles
	Jeff Breckon

[ADMIN] Unfortunately, a hang-up in the mailing of PD #241 resulted in
many of the issues not reaching their intended destination.  If you
are on the list and would like a back copy of PD #241, please send a
short note to that effect to me at ????????????????  Thanks again to
Vince Callaway at Washington Interenet Services for helping to
straighten out the problem.

[CANADA] My thanks to the Canadian Briar Brothers for their honorary
membership!  I enjoyed the first issue of the club's newsletter very
much too. For Digest members in British Columbia, contact Chet
Gottfried (?????????????????).

[TECHNICAL] Up to now, I've been limiting the format of the Digest
mailings to USASCII only, but am considering allowing postings in full
Unicode as well.  The up-side of Unicode is that it allows the use of
a lot of non-English characters that don't currently get printed; the
down-side is that not everyone might have a reader that can make sense
of these characters.  Does anyone here have any strong opinions, one
way or another, about making this move?

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From: "Louis F. Carbone" <?????????????????>
Subject: Rumors...

Hi Steve,
Thanks for the digest.  I just wanted you to be clear as to my querry
regarding Nikos in case I was misunderstood.  I in no way intended to
start or help spread any rumors about him.  I was simply responding to
the horrible rumors that I had heard and wanted to know if you had any
info to the contrary.  Nikos is my friend.  I was unable to get in touch
with him and when I inquired as to what was up, I was met with many
disturbing bits of news.  I could not and did not believe any of it.  I
too met Nikos at the NY Show and was glad to see him.  It will be his
perogative to address the rumors if he so desires.  All I can say is
that I agree with you that he is alive and well and selling pipes.  And,
I am relieved to know this.

Leading off the digest with my post does seem to include me into the
cast of characters who would be spreading these rumors. I was sorry to
see it used in that vain.  I was simply hoping that you would have had
some info to the contrary.  No hard feelings though, and I am sorry I
missed you on Saturday. Sam told me you were asking for me.  I got
caught in a terrible traffic jam between the Manhattan Bridge and the
Holland Tunnel !  Over 45 minutes !!!  Anyway, I was relieved to see
Nikos there, with his lovely wife.  We spoke at length and I was happy
to hear of his hopes and wishes.  I wish him continued success and
happiness, he deserves it.  As for the rumors, well rumors usually are
just that.

Unitl next time, stay well and happy smoking and keep up the great work
with the digest !
Your friend,

[ Louis, I hope I didn't imply that you were spreading rumors.  I led
off with your article just as a way of introducing a series of letters
on the same subject, and just happened to remark that there were some
rumors going around.  

And it looks like the controversy surrounding Nikos Levin is very much
alive!  See below.  I think I can safely report that he's gotten
himself into serious trouble with the community and is "on the outs"
with more than one of the show-circuit regulars.  I know some of these
people, but will let them speak for themselves if they wish to do so.

Sorry I didn't hook up with you at the NYPC show a few weeks ago. Next
time, let's hope for better traffic! -S. ]

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From: Joe_Reynolds <???????????????????????>
Subject: Nikos Levin

I have been trying to get in touch with NML.  But I can obtain no
phone connection; their e-mail box is not receiving mail; and their
web site has not changed since July.  Do you have any idea what has
happened?  Have we lost this source for estate pipes?  any update
information gratefully appreciated.


"Deep in the Heart of Texas"

[ Nikos told me at the NYPC show that he was moving to Trinidad (which
is where his wife is from), but might be going to Vermont before
that. I don't know anything more specific than that about where he is
now. -S. ]

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From: "Ken Corey" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Nikos Levin ... how to contact him?

Ken Corey, Coopers & Lybrand L.L.P. (US)
Tel:    860-241-7020   Fax:    860-241-7590
any idea on how to contact Nikos Levin? I'm trying to find him in attempts
to get the $459 of Pipes he owes me.
Ken Corey

[ See above, and below.  If I get any further information, I'll put it
here and post it on alt.smokers.pipes. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????? (Regis McCafferty)
Subject: Will Nikos Levin be at the Richmond show?

[Crossposted from alt.smokers.pipes. -S.]

Nikos has three tables at our show (NASPC) in Columbus, OH on September
27th but we've had no communication from him though I've tried calling and
email.  From all that I hear about what's happened with Him/Marsha/NML, I
don't expect him to be there, but hell, you never know.  He was at the NY
show. We've asked him for confirmation by the end of this week but haven't
heard from him.  Rumor is that he's in Trinadad.      Regis McCafferty,
Member of the Board, North American Society of Pipe Collectors 

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From: "Robert C. Hamlin" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Nikos Levin's whereabouts

Message text written by Steve Masticola
>Do you have any idea of Nikos Levin's whereabouts?  I'm getting a fair
number of members who are looking for him currently.


As of September 12th - he's in West Palm Beach FL


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From: ??????????????? (Stefano Toria)
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #241 -- September 2, 1997

Tim Ramsay <??????????????????????????????> dixit:=20

>Subject: The dreaded gurgles
>	Well, a few months ago I happened upon an extremely effective
>solution which works anytime and anywhere.  I just put my thumb over the
>bowl of my pipe and with a few sharp shakes I let centrifugal force =
>my pipe out through the end of the (still attached) stem!  It works very
>well and even my most gurgly pipe only requires this treatment twice

Thanks for the suggestion. My way of clearing out the goo was to knock
lightly the mouthpiece against my left hand's knuckles, but this lets
the goo out on my hand which then reeks of tar. I shall adopt your
system immediately :-?

Cheers!           || O8||_
Stefano Toria     || |o|| |
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From: ??????????????? (Stefano Toria)
Subject: Re: Churchwardens

Philip Burnard said:

>I am thinking of buying a 'churchwarden' - the pipe with the long,=20
>curved stem.  Has anyone out there got experience of smoking them?  I=20
>wear glasses and, at home, I find that repeated smoking, in the=20
>evening, causes excessive amounts of smoke to get in my eyes.  I=20
>thought that a churwarden might be an answer. The design of these=20
>things makes it look as though the bowl of the pipe is well away from=20
>your face - let alone your eyes!  I would welcome peoples'=20
>experiences. =20

I urge you to try one. I ordered mine from Stephen Bray (he's listed
in the Pipes Web site) and they're among the best smokes I've ever

He actually makes clay churchwardens, but I believe that a
historically correct rendition of a churchwarden must be in clay as it
was the material used at the time this shape of pipes was around.

I think I must have written something about these pipes some Digests
back, anyway here you are (again): they aren't the kind of pipes you
want to carry around, unless you fancy having a stem a foot long
sticking out of your breast pocket :-) I keep mine hanging from the
mantelpiece at home, and I smoke them when I feel meditative, the kids
have cleared out to bed and my wife sits on the sofa next to me, with
her cross-stitch work on her lap.

The smoke is exceptionally cool, it doesn't "bite" and gives you all
its flavour.

The major drawback is that clay is fragile; it is never a good idea to
drop any pipe (I almost murdered my eldest daughter, 7, when she sent
one of my best briars on the floor last week, fortunately with no
consequence to either) but where briar can survive, a clay that flies
to the floor is gone for good. I already called Stephen once for
replacement, when I dropped both pipes I had bought in the first

So the idea is: find a good storage for a clay pipe even before you
order one.

Cheers!           || O8||_
Stefano Toria     || |o|| |
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From: ??????????? (George Kalvinsky)
Subject: posting from pipes page

I have come in to the possession of the following pre-smoked pipes and would be
interested in knowing the potential retail value as well as well as hearing
from anyone who might be interested in buying them.

Peterson, full-bent, sterling silver #812
Charatan, London England Special 420X
Comoy Command Commission, SIF
Comoy Command commission 4890c
Comoy Tintoretto, 8793
Savinelli Punto Oro 802
Savinelli Extra Canadian 8004ex
Meerchaum with Armadillo on side approx. 7" long

Cobalt Blue, round, Ceramic Tobacco Humidor with John Middleton label
on bottom along with Denby England on bottom.  Lid seals with Brass
three legged screwed mechanism.

Thanks,     George Kalvinsky
            Greybeard's Tobacco and Coffee
            203 Rehoboth Avenue
            Rehoboth Beach DE, 19971

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From: "John P. Giunta" <????????????????????>
Subject: Edward's Pipe Shop, Denver, CO

Hello Pipe Friends,

Thanks for all your great posts.

I had the good fortune to gain a Sister-In-Law when I went to Denver
last week to participate in a wedding.  While there I visited the
Edward's Pipe Shop south of the City on South Broadway.  The shop has
a very nice diplay of lots of pipes, to include Tim West's pipes.  I
bought a small freehand pipe of his made of Grecian Briar to
commemorate the visit and the wedding.  This pipe has a bowl about the
size of the first joint of my little finger--it holds just the right
amount of tobacco for the time I have most of the time.  Tim West's
other freehand designs are bold, freedom-inspiring and well done for
their price.

The shop is very friendly and well-stocked with pipes, I think.  They
also have cigars, but I don't smoke them so I can't attest to the
variety.  The shop also has their mixtures on display, but since I
have my own favorites, I didn't try any.  I would definitely like to
go back to the shop sometime in the future.  I recommend a visit to
the shop by others passing through Denver.

These days I like mixtures that have Latikia in them, sometimes a 
little Perique, too.  My favorite is the Balkan Sobranie white label 
which has now become the Balkan Saseini.  I have one more unopened 
pouch of the "original" Balkan left and I may freeze it and avoid opening it 
for a long time.  Does anyone on the list have experience freezing, 
then thawing and smoking their tobacco?  Any loss or changing of 

Regarding smoking and health, I have appreciated the occasional 
well-meaning, supportive and informative posts from members of the 
medical profession.  I am a yoga teacher and very INfrequent pipe 
smoker.  But when I do it, I LOVE IT.

I feel that the guilt foisted upon us for some of our acts does a lot
more harm than the acts themselves.  I think we should smoke our pipes
when we are at peace with the world and are able to reflect upon our
blessings.  After all, the ritual use of tobacco started, probably,
when the psychological/spiritual benefits were first felt.  Let's try
to keep it that way.

At least one US Government document has a chart that shows pipe 
smokers as having a life expectancy higher (HIGHER) than that of non-smokers. 
Of course, this probably says more about the kind of individual who 
chooses to smoke a pipe than it does about tobacco use, so let us 
continue to be the rational, sensitive, tolerant, respectful kinds of people 
who enjoy this hobby, thereby extending our lives.  This is a big world and 
there is room for everyone.

Best to all,
John Giunta

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From: AH Entezari <??????????????????>
Subject: Hi

Dear Steve,
I shall appreciate if you post this note for the fellow pipe lovers. I
have been using a falcon pipe for some years and I feel i need to get a
new bowl for that. Is any place where I can order?? or I need to get a
new pipe. please email me at ??????????????????
Thank you

[John Eels had some Falcon bowls at the last NYPC show.
Unfortunately, I don't have his contact info. -S.]

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From: Michael (?????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

I know that there is now a Cigar Web Ring up and running (my
cigar/pipe pages are part of it), but is there a Pipe Web Ring out


[I've never heard of one, but what's a Web Ring? -S.]

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From: ???????????????????? (Elliott C.  Evans)
Subject: Pipe Lighter Conclusion

[Steve, please include this note in the next digest.
 It was a pleasure to work on this with you. Thanks
 for allowing me the opportunity to enhance the
 community you've labored to build.]

A little more than a year ago I came up with the idea, and
offered to design and have printed a custom lighter if there
was enough demand. Enough of you demanded, and it was done.

I won't say it was all easy, but it was certainly all worth 
it. Your letters of thanks pretty much prove that to me. If 
anybody ever needs any tips on how to make a project like this 
one run more smoothly, just drop me a line.

I just sent out the last two lighters to happy digest 
subscribers last week. Ah, to be blissfully free of inventory. 
Thank you one and all for your orders, for your repayments, 
and for your thanks.

Elliott C. "Eeyore" Evans

[Eeyore, it's been a pleasure to me also to see your lighter project
take shape, and to enjoy the final product.  People like you make it
all happen.  For that, many thanks! -S. ]

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From: "Bill Thacker" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #241 -- September 2, 1997

In the last digest, I wrote:

> Subject: Pipes next fad?
> Actually I'm not all that worried.  My hunch is that cigars, like
> expensive beverages, are in vogue because they are a great way to show
> how much money you have to waste.

On rereading this, it struck me that it might be taken as an insult to
cigar smokers in general, and I didn't mean it that way.  I smoke
cigars myself, and it's not because I want to show off my wealth.  I
daresay that anyone who read my message is an afficianado, not the
trendy-smoker sort to whom I was referring.  

I hope nobody (except trendy-smoker sorts) took offense from my 
statement, and I apologize to anyone I clumsily insulted.  

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Bill Thacker            Lucent Technologies    Network Wireless Systems
??????????????             (614) 860-5294                Columbus, Ohio       

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: [PIPES] Personal Puffings

Steve (and all of the cyber-smokers)

Hoopla! It's nice to be part of the Pipes Digest. I've been browsing the
site for a few months, and I've read EVERY back issue of the Pipes Digest.
I though it was about time I joined the group. A quick bio: My name is Bill
Yater. I'm 29 years old, and I work as a software engineer in Indianapolis,
IN. Before that (about 2 years ago), I was born and raised in northern New
Jersey, so I get a kick out of reading about New York and New Jersey.

This message has three parts: my personal bio (at least about my life as a
smoker), a question or three about some brands of pipes and tobacco, and an
update to the Resource Guide. Readers can skip forward to whatever part
they want, or skip to the end for some random humor.


I grew up in a family of reformed cigarette smokers. My mother used to
smoke, until she got pregnant with me. My father smoked 2 packs of Lucky
Strikes a day for years...until he woke up one morning and coughed up
blood. Amazing how that will make someone quit cold turkey. My sister used
to smoke in high school and college, until her asthma won that battle.
Needless to say, smoking was given a dim view in my household. However, the
rest of my relatives were virtual chimneys. Aunts, uncles, and grandparents
all smoked cigarettes, and one or two of my uncles smoked the occasional
pipe. I don't know what kind of pipe, but I vividly remember the Apple pipe

I made it through high school without smoking, but once I hit college, my
rebellious streak kicked in. My parents hated cigarettes, so what better
way to rebel than to follow in my parent's footsteps? While working on a
loading dock one summer, I "borrowed" a cigarette (Newport menthol ultra
light) from one of my co-workers. Once I got past the usual coughing and
slight nausea, I enjoyed the buzz.

One cigarette turned into two, then a pack that lasted me a month, and when
I returned to school, I was hooked. My brand of choice rapidly changed from
the Newports to Merits to Winstons to Camels, and from the ultra lights to
the "regular" lights to the full strength. At one point, I was smoking a
pack of Camel Wides a day, and two packs a day on weekends. Occasionally, I
tried a cigar, but they were mostly of the Dutch Masters variety, and I
didn't pursue it.

After graduation, I cut back my cigarette smoking, but never totally quit.
When I would go out to the nightclubs, I always found myself lighting up.
Working at a job which (at that time) allowed me to smoke at my desk helped
the habit, and allowed me to hide my smoking from my parents with the
truth: the cigarette smoke they smelled on my clothes was from my
co-workers (another Camel smoker, which made it easy to bum off each

Time passed, and as luck would have it, I met a wonderful girl (now my
wife). She didn't exactly ask me to quit, but she did let it be known that
she didn't like the smell of cigarette smoke. That was it. I didn't quit
quite as fast as my father, but within six months, I had bought my last
pack of smokes. This didn't mean I stopped smoking; I just started bugging
the hell out of my friends and co-workers. After about three months of
that, I was able to quit. (Hint to anyone who wants to quite smoking: try
this technique. Not only will you stop smoking, but your friends will
suggest things to you that you thought was physically impossible). I had
the occasional relapse, but it never lasted for more than a few weeks.

Fast forward to May 1997. A friend of mine and I had stopped at the local
discount tobacco shop so he could pick up some el cheapo cigars. While he
browsed among the Philles, White Owls, and Swisher Sweets, my gaze turned
to the rack of Dr. Grabows. I thought back to my pipe-smoking uncle, and
remembered the pleasant smell. This was not the first time I had thought of
that, and decided to try it. I bought a Dr. Grabow for $15 and went across
to the local Tinderbox and picked up a few ounces of a cherry almond
tobacco. Remembering my wife's distaste for cigarettes, I didn't want to
spend a lot. To my extreme delight, she absolutely loved the smell of the
pipe. It reminded her of HER  grandfather, who always used to smoke cherry
tobacco. A new habit was born.

It's been a busy summer for me. I've expanded my pipe selection to about a
half-dozen, mostly Medicos and Dr. Grabows, with a Irish Seconds full bent
as my best pipe. All are garage-sale and bargain-basket specials, except
for the Irish Seconds, a half-curve Grabow (my first), and a new "dinky"
3/4 bent. I tend to favor bents, but am also fond of straight Pot style, so
long as it has a saddle bit. Right now, my favorite pipes are a sandblast
Dr Grabow pot, and the aforementioned Irish Seconds. All are kept in one of
two pipe stands, also garage sale specials.

On my budget, $30 to $40 is about the average price I would want to pay for
a new or good-quality estate pipe, so I look at a lot of seconds. However,
if a well-made pipe from a lesser-known manufacturer caught my eye (Alpha,
Brebbia, and Chacom, among others), I would probably spend around $60-$70,
and on very rare occasions could I see myself spending $100 or more on a
Peterson or Dunhill.

My choice of tobacco tends to be mostly aromatics, favoring cherry, apple,
or nougat. I've tried English blends, but haven't gotten a taste for
them...yet. I usually buy from the nearby Tinder Box franchise or a local
tobacconist. I've never tried tinned tobacco (price is a little steep), and
I learned early on to stay away from "drugstore" brands (Captain Black,
Prince Albert, etc). I usually buy 2 or 3 ounces at a time, and keep a
variety of tobaccos on hand for whatever mood I'm in. My one drugstore vice
is Apple pipe tobacco. If it's kept properly humidified, it's really quite
nice, and not a wet a smoke as some of the Tinderbox aromatics.


Has anyone ever heard of "Dinky" pipes? I just purchased one over the Labor
Day weekend, and it's wonderful. It's made in Mexico, and as the name
implies, it's much smaller than your "normal" pipe. The bowl is about a
1/2" in diameter and about 3/4" deep. the entire pipe, from tip to tip, is
about 2" long. It's probably not the kind of pipe you would want if you're
about to curl up with a copy of the Sunday paper. However, it's exactly the
right size for work. I can't smoke in my new office, and it's small bowl is
perfect for a 15-20 minute break. It's size is the upside. The downside is
the quality of briar. I looked at three of them before I found one without
many visible pits or fills. After smoking it for about a week, however, I
can easily see 8 or 9 fills. I would recommend them for smoking
convenience, but not for aesthetics.

What is the difference between ribbon and flake tobacco? Is there a
difference, or are they one and the same? On the subject of tobacco cut,
what is the best way to pack and smoke a pipe with cube cut tobacco? When I
try to pack it the same as my other tobacco, I encounter much more
difficulty is packing it. When I smoke it, I constantly have to re-pack and
re-light it, sometimes as much as 5 times. And inevitably, I wind up with a
lot of unsmoked tobacco, because after the 4th or 5th lighting, it just
won't stay lit.


I have a few places in Indianapolis to add to the Resource Guide:

Tobacco Express
5310 N. Keystone Ave
Indianapolis, IN
(317) 475-1444

This is one of those shops that you would pass by, because from the street,
it looks like nothing more than the usual cigarettes, cheapie pipes and
cigars, and overpriced knick-knacks. If you did, you would be gravely
mistaken. The owner just returned from the Florida Pipe Show, and brought
some beautiful Erik Nordig freehands with him. He has a wide selections of
pipes, including the Dinky I purchased. There?s a meerschaum I?ve got my
eye on for the holidays. I can?t comment much on his cigars, but his
humidor looked well stocked. He carries a HUGE selection of exotic and
imported cigarettes, and carries Peter Stokkeye pipe tobacco, among others.
Prices are very good, and the owners go out of their way to make you

Tobacco Row Outlet
2440 E. 62nd Street
Indianapolis, IN
(317) 466-9900

Another diamond in the rough. They celebrated an anniversary in August (I
don?t know which one), and gave away free goodies to everyone. My kind of
store! Not quite an upscale shop, it?s mostly a cigarette store, with a few
pipes (Kaywoodies), cigars, and accessories thrown in. They don?t carry a
lot of premium items, but they do carry a lot of hard-to-find items. A
friend of mine found some cigars there that he hasn?t been able to find in
years. I stumbled across some tinned tobacco, something you don?t expect to
find in an "outlet" store. I discovered that they are the exclusive
Indianapolis distributor of Uhle pipe tobacco (check your back issues for
comments on this wonderful pre-packaged tobacco). According to the owner,
some of the "no-name" pipes they carry are actually Savanelli seconds. The
nice thing about the place; not a stick of incense or ceramic
dust-collector in sight!

The Tobacco Shop
4660 W. 38th St.
Indianapolis, IN
(317) 299-6010

I have not personally visited the shop, but I've heard good things about
it. The company has been in business since 1992, and the owner has been in
the tobacco biz in Indianapolis since 1972. The store has several trial
offers: 1 premium cigar or once ounce of pipe tobacco FREE, once a month
for a year. They also have frequent shopper specials, discounts on pipes
and accessories, and monthly giveaways. The Tobacco shop is also the home
of the Havana Daydreamin? Cigar Club (already in the Guide).

Also, the Pipe Puffers which was at the Fashion Mall (Keystone at the
Crossing) has moved. They are now at the Northview Mall, across from North
Central High School. I?ll try to find out  the exact address.

Well, that?s about it. I hope I didn?t bore anyone with my rambling story
of my transformation from a cigarette smoker to a pipe connoisseur. I
promise to keep it shorter next time. Thanks again for this online smoking

Bill Yater

"If vegetarians eat veggies, what to humanitarians eat?"

[ Humanities?

Seriously, ribbon-cut tobacco comes in long, loose ribbons. Flake-cut
is compressed and sliced into "flakes;" one flake is a bowlful or
maybe a little more.  Erinmore Flake is the prototypical example;
Bengal Slices is a better one, IMHO. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I'd like to know if anyone has a how-to on cleaning/repairing estate
pipes.  For instance, the use of carnauba wax for bowls/shanks and
buffing compounds on stems.  I have a buffing wheel attached to my
bench grinder and have also tried by hand.

[I think I saw an article in one of the "Pipes and Tobaccos" issues
on cleaning estate pipes. But it's not in any of the ones I have
handy. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I would like to invite all readers of PD to stop by my web page at 
If you have never heard of Pipes by Mariner you're in for a treat and will
see briar sculpture unlike any you've seen before. If you like classic
shapes, you will be able to buy Mariner pipes made from bowls turned over 40
years ago. If you've been enjoying your Mariner pipe for the last ten,
fifteen or twenty-five years send me a quick e-mail to say "Hi".

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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I hope someone can help.  I used to smoke a tobacco called "Town & Country".
I was made in Scotland by Herbert Love and imported by "Hollco" in New York. 
Has anyone seen any or know anything about it?

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From: ????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I would like to purchase a "Firebird" Pipe lighter. If you know of one
for sale please let me know.  I hope it is in good working
order. Please let me know price and your address.


Robert ( Bob ) Krebs

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From: ????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I can't found a good tabaco!!

[What kind do you like? -S. ]

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From: Jeroen Greveling <?????????????????????????>
Subject: greetings

Dear Steve

A small letter for you, to let you know that my health on the moment is 
not very well, I have  had serious kidneyproblems ('kidneypoison') Now 
it recovers very slowly, I have had bad fever so I feel the weakness all 
over the body.
As I read on PD 240 you have already seen the picture of the 
"Denney-Bishop Pipe'. How great it is, yesterday David mailed me that 
the pipe was on the ship, so still waiting...........................

This is a big example how brother/sisters will help each other.
If everyone do so, the world may looks different. I am so grateful, also 
to you, who placed my letter in PD, I had my hesitations, but you as 
great moderator was right!

Thanks again, till so far this mail,



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From: ???????????????????????????????? (Steve Engberg)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Because of the change in my "bite" over the years, I have had to resort to
softy rubber pipe bits. I've found that they are too thin  (not thick
enough to allow for a good grip between my teeth) Does anyone have
any suggestions? Any help is very much appreciated.

Steve Engberg 

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From: ??????????????????? (Kevin Olson)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Fellow Fumeurs (and maybe Fumeuses?)-

My Name is Kevin Olson and I've finally unlurcked, having read the
first hundred issues or so and the last three.  My first pipe was an
old Dr.  Grabow, sort of billiard shaped with a vulcanite stem and I
think the first tobak I smoked was Middleton's Cherry(vile stuff, at
least it seemed so at the time, I've not tried it lately).Eventually I
settled on Captain Black which worked well enough in the short bowl.
I think I paid $1.50 for the Dr. Grabow at the local thrift shop.  It
had some kind of turbulator or condenser made of aluminum and once I
threw that away the heel cake improved.

Later I bought a big Nording and half a pound of Thompson's Cherry/Laurel
(which weed I liked) from the same.  Seems the Nording cost about 50 bucks
and it smokes great.  I also liked the Cherry/Laurel alot and so did the 
women when I was in Germany the following summer, especially those dusky
Turkish maids ;-).  I haven't bought any since and don't even have their
 address but I think I'll have to get some more.

While in Germany I also bought a lovely little Brebbia semi-curved, a 
little dressier than the Nording, and with an egg-shaped bowl instead 
of cylindrical.  I haven't bought any since but I've been smoking pipes
 about seven years.  Now that I've finally gotten my BSME from Michigan
 Tech University (Cum Laude, might I add) I can look forward to more
 pipe purchases in the future.  I'd like especially to pick up a 
full-bent Peterson System.

Some where back in the late 60's or early 70's (that's issue #s) I noticed
a thread about smoking cigars in pipes.  In Hacker's Ultimate Cigar Book
(alas I haven't his pipe book yet, no doubt another future purchase), he
shows pictures of cheroot holders which look to be miniature meerschaums,
so it's been done before.  Seems to me the time period was Victorian, but 
I don't have the book handy to check.

Well it's good to be aboard and as Private Ortheris says in one of Kipling's
 short stories "shmoke her tinderly with honey" :-).


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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Just wanted to ask two questions:
When exactly did Balkan Sobranie stop importing into the US, and
Is it still available outside the USA? (i.e. Great Britain or Canada)
I suppose by the time the next Digest is published I'll have been to 
the local tobacconist, so it should be safe to say that it has A WHOLE LARGE
(But just in case, I won't name the tobacconist or the town in which it is.)
With luck, I'll be getting some extra cash this week, and I plan on ignoring 
the fact that for the price of the tin I'll be able to plug up the hole in my 
Jethro Tull LP collection... I can always find a copy of This Was somewhere, 
(and I'm probably the only person in town that'd buy it), but Balkan Sobranie
is a rarer find these days.

[I've got a copy of This Was; listen to it every few years.  Fairly
nice jazzy sound, but the recording quality was terrible.  Heaven help
me if the needle ever goes, though.  Re the Sobranie, as near as I can
tell, the distributor (James B. Russell, Inc.) dropped it around June
1996. See PD #218. -S. ]

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From: John Stuart Barnes <???????????????????>
Subject: Hello Steve

Greetings from the UK ...

Thanks for your e-mail ... I look forward to receiving future issues
of the digest.  Did you send me issue 241? ... I downloaded it off the
Pipes Web Page ... I don't think there should be any problem .... your
initial mail arrived a o k .  I'll send you a contribution of sorts
soon .... but life is rather hectic at the moment .... being a
freelance journalist is never an easy lifestyle.  ... but I do have a
week off soon .... I'm in the British team for the Pipe Smoking
Contest in Budapest in two weeks .... I'm just getting in a little
training with my Ashton Magnum ... and some seriously good latakia

Warm Regards and Keep Smoking !!!

John Barnes

[ Just how is Team Britain training for the Budapest Pipe Olympics? -S. ]

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From: Kevin Cook <????????????>
Subject: moving


Just a note to those of you with links to my pipe-smoking pages.  I have
moved, so they are moving too.  They are now at
http://www.priss.org/pipes.shtml.  Thanks for your interest and pleasant

Kevin Cook

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From: ?????????????????????? (Arata Naito)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Dear Members.
Few days ago, I got nice billiard pipe from my father.
I never heard this company. 
Does anyone know about this company?
If you know, please tell me.
Best regards
Arata Naito

["Who Made That Pipe?" by Wilczak and Colwell tells me that Fribourge
& Treyer made their own pipes; they're not another company's
seconds. Beyond that, I have no other information. By the way, the
book is worth having, but I don't know of any way to get it except to
track down Tom Colwell at a convention. -S. ]

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From: [Full address not given]
Subject: posting from pipes page

   Okay fellow pipe/cigar/cigarette smokers. I have a question that needs 
a answer. I am first a pipe smoker but due smoke cigarettes and have notice
as of late that my beard and mustach is becoming a yucky yellow. What do 
others do to rid themselves of this unsightly color? Any assistance would be
greatly appreciated.
                               Happy Smoke Trails

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From: Russ Oechslin <?????????????????????>
Subject: THANKS

You sure get up early in the morning and to your e-mail early, too.

'Appreciate the forwarding. There are times the e-mail addresses are
important. No, I'm not a spammer.

There seems to be a new (interesting) smokers magazine that I noted in the
fujicom area -- SMOKE. Pipes and Tobaccos has come along nicely. 'Didn't
realize the ownership ties to the industry. 'Hope they both survive. Reading
is as close as we can come to a pipe shop most days, as there is nothing but
grocery store shelves within about 100 miles of our northwest Iowa home.

FYI -- Friends have gotten me out of a pleasurable "rut". I've been smoking
Iwan Ries Three Star (Blue) for about 30 years -- ever since they sent a
free sample with the coupon from Playboy magazine ((Who sez advertising
doesn't pay?)) -- 'til I got some gift tobaccos. 'Nothing especially
exciting. And I still go back to ***. But I am enjoying experimenting and
have come to realize there IS a difference in pipes and pipe-tobacco
combinations. Some weeds smoke better in a smaller or taller pipe. Others,
like ***, smoke pretty well in about anything.

Thanks again for your efforts keeping PD together. I look forward to having
an excuse to sit and read -- and smoke.

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Quote of the Week:

	"They are the cigars his wife gives him as birthday presents,
	 on the anniversary of his marriage, and at other times, and
	 such a model wife is she that he would do anything for her
	 except smoke them."

					J.M. Barrie
					_My Lady Nicotine_

					(Chapter 11, "His Wife's Cigars." 
					 This appeared on the dust
					 jacket; I'm saving the rest
					 of the book for a well-needed

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #242 -- September 20, 1997
  2. Subject: Rumors...
  3. Subject: Nikos Levin
  4. Subject: Nikos Levin ... how to contact him?
  5. Subject: Will Nikos Levin be at the Richmond show?
  6. Subject: Nikos Levin's whereabouts
  7. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #241 -- September 2, 1997
  8. Subject: Re: Churchwardens
  9. Subject: posting from pipes page
  10. Subject: Edward's Pipe Shop, Denver, CO
  11. Subject: Hi
  12. Subject: posting from pipes page
  13. Subject: Pipe Lighter Conclusion
  14. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #241 -- September 2, 1997
  15. Subject: [PIPES] Personal Puffings
  16. Subject: posting from pipes page
  17. Subject: posting from pipes page
  18. Subject: posting from pipes page
  19. Subject: posting from pipes page
  20. Subject: posting from pipes page
  21. Subject: greetings
  22. Subject: posting from pipes page
  23. Subject: posting from pipes page
  24. Subject: posting from pipes page
  25. Subject: Hello Steve
  26. Subject: moving
  27. Subject: posting from pipes page
  28. Subject: posting from pipes page
  29. Subject: THANKS
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