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Subject: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997

		Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997
   Copyright (C) 1997 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 3157

Welcome to new members:

	Jennifer Lindblad
	Koray Berk
	Guillermo P. Magarinos
	Jack Gardner
	Javier Puig Yaez
	Robert K. Guyton
	David Beyea
	Donald Nelson
	Robert F. Hout
	Bill Arduser
	Nathan Edward Spriegel
	Mark Steven Rupp
	Timothy A. Lott
	Paul Curtis Boone
	Stan Hildebrand
	Ian Bicking
	Keith Beardsley
	Lee Newman
	Robert Danielsson
	Tim Bartlett
	Gordon Burgess-Parker
	Giles Davis
	Randolph Ubben
	Timm Tews
	Stephane Vanreppelen
	Christopher Browne
	Tom Stout
	Jorge Meier Schulz
	Arnaud Tarantola
	David M. Jellema
	Harvey Mcfadden
	Edwin Troutt
	Tony Leung
	Thomas L. Mueller
	John Siewertsen
	Jim Kampa
	Donald R. Lehto
	Francisco Lozano
	Evan Williams
	Roger W. Turner
	Mehmet S. Konuk
	Miroslav Chocholous
	Edward Magro
	Gancho Armianov
	Peter Rudolph
	Greg Sopotnick
	Steve Rice
	Charles Phillips
	John Perkowski
	Louis Mercier
	Joseph Gareri
	Markus Kroemer
	Kirk Guthrie
	Craig Wallace
	Erik McCloud
	Luke Groben
	Stephen A. Chesser
	Christopher Brown
	Jeffrey H. Thompson
	Marv Waschke
	Joel Donelson
	William Gunn
	Brian Perry
	Dean Luis Jones
	Ben Harold
	Brian Legrand Cooper
	Gregory Lazos
	Walid Waked
	Eric Fehr
	Michael Mueller
	Tom Wriggins
	Rob Di Stasio/Ny
	Anthony Noa
	Denis Boyles
	Daniel M. Gora Esq.
	Dave Kellermanns
	Brian J. Cornellison
	Randie Kochals
	Allan Childers
	Blaine Arsenault
	Patrick Burdine
	Lynn A Smith Md
	James Svehla
	Gary Perasso
	Chris Patton
	Philippe Shils
	George Reed
	Jeff Matthews
	Dave Halliday
	Rick Rhodes
	Michael Kirtley
	Marcel Frauenknecht
	Clive Humm
	Tony Berke
	Mitchell Orchant
	Simon C Wilson
	Hugo A. Pillet
	Boudewijn Rempt
	Lucio Tiozzo
	Alan Lowe
	J Turner-Bishop
	Clayton Straughan
	Br Robert Coombes Ssf
	Michael B. Wright
	Josh Thibodaux
	Dennis B. Wight
	Tal Shterzer
	Jim Van Cleave
	Andrew Garman
	Ben Stone
	James Johnson
	Marina Bokelman
	E. C. Kirby
	Kyle Rudden
	Lawrence C. Root
	Al Blossey
	James Bahner
	John J. Conrad
	Bill Good
	Carlo Simonetti

[ADMIN] I've resisted doing this for a long time, but now I feel that
the evidence warrants it.

We have strong reason to believe that NML Pipes Direct, operated by
Nikos Levin, is no longer in business, and has not acted in good faith
with customers and business associates in repeated instances.  We have
therefore removed NML Pipes Direct from the Resource Guide.  I've also
asked Steve Beaty to also remove the link to NML from the Web site.

Customers of NML Pipes Direct who have ordered merchandise which they
have not received may, of course, place the order on dispute with
their credit card companies.  Business associates of NML should seek
competent legal advice on recovering their debts.

It saddens me personally to have to take this action, and I hope that
Nikos will, in the future, make good with his customers and business

[A MORE POSITIVE NOTE] The Toronto Pipe Club has been formed and will
have its first meeting on November 22.  See Doug Cope's letter below
for the details.  If you're there, hope you can make it!

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	    Help Stop Prohibition  --  Keep Tobacco Legal

		      Call  --  Write  --  Vote

			Then, smoke in peace.

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From: "Graeme T. Steel" <?????????????????>
Subject: Pipes Digest

Dear Steve and all readers,

I am in bad odour with at least one distinguished pipeman over a
reference I made in the October "Pipes Digest" to the racial origins of
the leaseholders of the former premises which Fribourg & Treyer,
Snuffmakers & Tobacconists occupied for 231 years in the Haymarket,

Without reiterating my unwarranted and ill-conceived remark, may I
sincerely apologize to anyone who was offended.

Yours sincerely,

Graeme T. Steel

[ Apology accepted, Graeme.  And my apologies to members for not
catching this in a more timely manner. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????? (Doug Cope)
Subject: posting from pipes page

The Toronto Pipe Club will host its INAUGURAL SMOKER on Saturday, 22
November, from 2-4pm at WC Fields Bar and Grill, 50 Cumberland Street
(between Yonge + Bay), Toronto. This will be an informal get-together;
admission is free (although a donation for mailing, etc, costs is
appreciated) and all pipe smokers are welcome.

For more information, call Robert Barron at 944-3237 or e-mail Doug
Cope at ???????????????????

[ Hope this makes it out in time to let Toronto residents know. Best
of luck!  Michael Gluker, Chief Instigator of the Canadian Briar
Brothers, sends the further information that the restaurant's phone
number is (416) 921-3129. -S. ]

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From: Steve Beaty (???????????????)
Subject: SPCA

        i'd like to announce the formation of the emailing list
entitled: "the Steves Pipe Club of America".  any and all Steves,
please feel free to send me a short note that you'd like to be added
to the list, and i'll add you.  for those outside America, feel free
to ask to be added; names such as Stefan will certainly be considered.
the need for this list is self-evident: there are so many Steves who
smoke pipes that we might as well talk amongst ourselves...

        with tongue firmly planted in cheek, a Steve.

Steve Beaty                                                beaty at pipes.org
Creator and maintainer:                                 http://www.pipes.org/

[ Presumably, "Stephanies" would be welcome too, wouldn't they?
Please accept my application. I guess that as the founding member of
the S.P.C.A., you automatically become the organization's Top Dog. -S. ]

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From: "William H. Magill" <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #243 -- October 19, 1997

>   Halloween is also coming on October 31.  November 4 is Election Day in
>   many places in the U.S.  Many feel that the proximity of the two
>   events is not a coincidence.  Regardless of what you believe about
>   this, please don't forget to vote for your freedom.

Hi Steve,

Keep up the good work. I always enjoy your editoral headers. 
Reminds me of Forbes. It's a shame it doesn't pay as well.


Forbes and the Scotch Malt Wisky Society are sponsoring a "Single Malt and
Cigar Extravangaza" at the Pyramid Club (atop One Libery Place). $50.
Admission by advance ticket purchase only 800/990-1991. Jacket Required.
Date is 13 November.  

Someplace I just saw an ad (which I can't find now) for a Cigar evening at
the ?Tropicana? at 6th and Bainbridge. The restaurant theme is based on the
Havana of Papa Hemmingway. Food is good, and their rum drinks do make one
think of Papa. The Cigar sponsor is a Tinderbox from one of the suburbs.
I belive the date is around Thanksgiving.

>   ############################## 01 ##############################
>   From: Willaim Brink <???????????????????????????????>
>   Subject: requesting information
>   steve:
>   i was reading a number of you reviews and found them to be most
>   interesting. 
>   can you explain something for me, when we talk about tosted cavendish what
>   is that?  i find the tobacco in a number of different blends, running the
>   full range from english to aromatics.  i think what i'am asking how do we
>   get tosted cavendish.
>   any info would be helpful.
>   thanks
>   bill
>   [ Ehwa is silent on this one. -S. ]
If anyone else has a better answer, use it. Mine is essentially "made up."

Basically, "toasted cavendish" refers to the method used to prepare the
tobacco for market in its final stage of curing. I don't know the specifics
of the process, but it essentially involves literally "toasting" (ie
pre-burining) the cut tobacco. (Using an oven, rather than simply allowing 
nature to run its course.) Much like Coffee, which comes in various
"roasts," where the time involved in the roaster determines the flavor, the
amount of "toasting" determines how much mosture will be in the tobacco.
I've never had a pure "toasted cavendish," but I would believe that a pure
"toasted cavendish" would be a very dry tobacco and therefore a hot smoke.
Similarly, "toasted cavendish" is, if I remember correctly, light brown, ie
toast color, also implying a "nuttier" taste.
Consequently, I would assume that "toasted cavendish" would be used like
Latakia - as a flavoring agent mixed with a base of other tobaccos.

All of the above may be completely bogus and "toasted canvedish" merely 
refers to the leaf - the color of toast - when it is cured!

William H. Magill                          Senior Systems Administrator
Information Services and Computing (ISC)   University of Pennsylvania
Internet: ????????????????????             ??????????????
          ????????????????                 http://pobox.upenn.edu/~magill/

[ Thanks for the good word, Bill!  If anyone can find a way to amass
the wealth of Malcom Forbes in the pipes hobby, please let me
know. :-) -S. ]

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From: "STEVE SHENFELD" <?????????????????>
Subject: Maintaining the Lustre of a brair pipe

I have been smoking and collecting pipes for over 25 years.  The finish
on my pipes have become dull and the pipes look ugly.  I have tried
putting bees wax on the pipes, but this is a temporary fix.
What can I do to make the pipes ( and the bits) look new and shiny?  I
can get a Dremel tool, but I do not know what to apply, or if I need to
go to that type of expense.

thanks for your advice.

Stephen Shenfeld

[ "Pipe Wipe" (available from Cornell & Diehl and elsewhere) helps to
shine up the briar; ordinary furniture polish might also help.  The
stems should be removed and polished by hand with ordinary white
toothpaste.  I'd recommend against the Dremel and suggest a 6-inch
felt buffing wheel with carnauba wax. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????? (Michael Davis)
Subject: Buffing station setup

I was visiting Mark Tinksy this weekend.  He's helping me set up a
buffing/sanding station.  He said that you had developed or put together a
complete setup or knew where to get the pieces of equipment.  He was unable
to find the catalog and recommended I drop you a note.  Can you help.


[ The main component is a thing called a mandrel. It's essentially a
shaft that the buffing wheel runs on. They are available from several
woodworking mail-order houses. Woodworker's Supply at 800-645-9292 has
three models available; item number 818-753 is what I used.

You'll also need a salvaged motor, from a washing machine or
similar. I found a sewing-machine motor at the local recycling center
that works fine. Also, get a motor mount (the kind that rocks and puts
tension on the belt), and a V-belt pulley for the motor to reduce the
RPM to about 1000.  With a stacked pulley, you can vary the speed.
Sears should have the V-belt hardware and motor mounts, or you can
build the motor mount yourself from some plumbing components.

Definitely put together a stable base for the buffer so it doesn't
vibrate too much.  

Tht total cost should be around $50. Mine ran a little more, because I
put a Jacobs chuck on one end of the mandrel.

Don't use an ordinary grinder for buffing; they run too fast and risk
gouging or burning the pipe. -S. ]

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From: Brian Pruitt <?????????????????????>
Subject: Letter to all

I would like to thank all who replied, unfortunately no one near enough
to show me.  So I am going to ask one more time. If there IS someone in
or near Henderson, KY or Evanville, IN who could show me in-person how
to smoke a pipe right and take care of it. Please e-mail me.  Before I
try again on my own.  Thanks to all who reply.

Brian Pruitt
Henderson, KY


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From: ???????????????
Subject: I have a stupid question 

My grandfather always smoked and when he passed away my grandmother gave me
his pipes. I smoke because I always enjoyed the aroma when he did and my wife
likes the aroma. But I always wondered if I was doing it right! Do Pipe
smokers inhale like cigarette smokers and cigar smokers??

I saw your how to page and thought I would ask!!

Thanks in advance

[ Most pipe smokers do not inhale; neither do most cigar smokers.
That's part of what makes it a hobby and not a habit.  -S. ]

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From: "M. el Kouni, Ph.D." <?????????????????????>
Subject: Different alcohols, Pipe cleaning, Falcon pipes 

There was an inquiry from ?????????????????????? in Pipe Digest # 243
about the chemical properties of different alcohols and their use in
pipe cleaning. Alcohols are organic compounds (i.e. containing carbon
atoms in their structures). Among the differences between the alcohols
are the number of carbons they contain; Methanol (1 carbon),  ethanol (2
carbons), propanol (3  carbons), butanol (4 carbons), etc. With the
exception of ethanol all these alcohols are highly toxic to humans. That
is why only ethanol is used for human consumption. However, methanol and
ethanol can be used for pipe cleaning and sweetening, they evaporate
faster than most others, and have no distinctive organic odor. In fact
they have sweet odor. The other alcohols could leave their unfavorable
odor in the pipe.  Alcohols work in pipe cleaning by dissolving tars and
other organic materials. The addition of salt is to absorb these
dissolved materials. That is also the reason that one uses pipe cleaners
when sweetening his pipe. The pipe cleaner and salt absorb the unwanted
tars dissolved by the alcohol. Using alcohol only will be useless as the
dissolved tars will be reabsorbed back by the pipe cake. 

There was also an inquiry from AH Entezari <??????????????????> and
others about the distributor for Falcon pipes. In Pipes & Tobaccos
magazine (fall, 1996) there is an add for new Falcon pipes, parts and
filters from Philips & King Cigar Co., Inc. However, there is no address
or telephone number in the add.

I hope this information is useful for those concerned.

[ Personally, I wouldn't use methanol, because of the chance of
leaving some residue. -S. ]

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From: Dan Wheeler - The American Legion <???????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Puffer

I was somewhat surprised to read your critique of the two branches of
the Pipe Puffer in Indianapolis.  They are both owned by the same
person, Larry Stout, a pipe smoker himself who prefers thick-walled
bulldogs and pots.  The store on the northside does have an ambiance
more conducive to discussing the pleasures of smoking and just milling
around.  It also carries Larry's line of estate pipes, on display in the
back, and often an excellent value for the careful shopper.  The
southside store personnel are friendly, too, they are just a little
stand-offish.  I have noticed that in both stores whether or not you
look at several pipes at once depends on two things: who is waiting on
you, and if you ask to see more than one at a time.  This missive has no
profound conclusion -- I just wanted to say that your experience on the
southside was not, I believe, typical.  

[ The critique was from member Bill Yater, not myself.  I have no
personal experience with either Pipe Puffer shop. -S. ]

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From: Ryan Chandlee (???????????????????)
Subject: comment from pipes page

Your pipe pages are really intereting, even for a non-smoker.  I'm
writing to tap into you or your group's knowledge about old tobacco
products.  I have an opportunity to get ahold of unopened packs of
Plowboy, and Honest long cut tobacco (I think they're from either 1909
or 1911).  I am a vintage sports card collector, and wondered if
anyone knew whether or not baseball cards came in every pack, or were
randomly inserted.  Also, do tobacco enthusiasts collect wrappers,
tins, and cigar art?  If you know of anybody with expertise in the
area, please, let me know!

Thank You,
Ryan Chandlee

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From: Koray Berk <????????????????>
Subject: Problems

I am KORAY BERK writing from the Bogazici University, Istanbul, Turkey.
I have been smoking pipes for a little more than a year.  I still have 
questions though!

1)There is a lot of tongue bite with my pipes.  Is it because they are 
new or is it because they are of poor quality?  I have heard that if you 
coat the inner face of the pipe with honey the cake deposits faster.

2) The pipe sometimes gets extremely hot.  What can I do?

3) Is Captain Black a good brand?  It is almost all that I can easily 

4) What is a "lucite" mouthpiece.  All my pipes (I have six) have that 
black and plastic mouthpiece?  Why cant I use the Savinelli PipSpray with 
lucite mouthpieces as it says so on the spray bottle.

I would love to find some answers, thanks already.

PS:  I check my other account ??????????????????? more often.  Thanks 
again for the time.
PPS:  I am subscribed from that address am I not?

[ For questions 1 and 2, the Web site can probably help. For 4, lucite
is a kind of hard plastic, and can be black or other colors.  The
other commonly used material for pipe stems is vulcanite. For 3, if
you enjoy it, it's a good blend, but most people experiment with many
blends and never settle on a single favorite.  And you are subscribed
at that address.  -S. ]

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From: ???????????????? (Alan Peschke)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hello Steve and all the PD gang,

A few weeks ago my wife told me about an antique store she had just found,
so we went over there to check it out since she had told me that it
had lots of old pipes.  I ended up buying four, as well as a humidor
with two small drawers, a brass(?) canister for tobacco, and two
built-in racks that hold six pipes each.

The first pipe is a very large full-bent(?) freehand (I am smoking
McClelland's Blackwoods Flake in it right now), apparently made by
Tinderbox because it has that word on the left side of the shank,
along with some numbers:  "78xxx2".  (The x's are numbers that I
can't make out, the stamp isn't very well defined.)  This pipe had
a sticky price tag on it, and I am wondering if anyone knows of a
good way to remove the last bits of stickiness from the pipe without
harming it.

Pipe #2 is a half-bent(?) Ben Wade.  I am not a pipe connoisseur and
have only vaguely heard of this brand, so if anyone wants to remark on
it, please do.  On the left side of the shank are the words "Ben Wade"
and beneath that, "Chesham."  On the right side it says "Made in
London England" and the numeral "6".

Pipe #3 is one of the leather-covered Longchamps, with a straight
Canadian-style stem.  It looks like it has seen some wear and tear but
I have heard good things about them so I bought it.  I think the
proprietor of this shop has given up pipe smoking and many of these
pipes were his.  He seemed very impressed that it was the first pipe I
picked out when I came in the store, and said that it was a great
pipe, and that he had bought it in England in about 1952.  So at last
I have a pipe that is older than I am.

Pipe #4 is a curious piece.  If the stem were removed it would look
like a tiny briar coffeepot.  It has a flat base so that it can stand
up on its own, and the base screws off.  It has a built-in windcap and
a metal stag affixed to the front of the bowl.  The shank makes a
90-degree turn when it comes out of the bowl, and the stem goes
straight up, with the bit making another sharp turn so that it can be
held in the mouth.   I haven't smoked it yet but it hangs very
comfortably in the mouth, in spite of having a round bit, not flat or
oval-ish like most bits, and the smoke hole (if that's what it's called)
is so small I don't think even the narrowest pipe cleaner will go through
it.  The stem between the bit and the shank is wood of some sort, but 
doesn't look like briar to me.  I can still see a few knobbly parts where 
it looks like small twigs were cut away.  On the left side of the shank 
are the words "Bryere" and beneath that what appears to be "Garantie."  
The proprietor told me it was Bavarian and assured me that it was 
smokeable.  He added that I would be a big hit at Wurstfest with it.  
(Wurstfest is an annual sausage & beer festival at the nearby city of 
New Braunfels.)

There are still a couple of pipes there that I would like to have, but
had to cut myself off at these four.  Actually, I only purchased 3,
but when I also decided to get the humidor he told me to pick out
another pipe for free.  If anyone has any remarks about these pipes,
especially #4, please feel free to contact me by email or post it here
in the Digest.

I had attempted to mail this direct but it bounced, so this time I'm
posting it from the Pipes Page.

Best regards,
Alan Peschke

[ Here's a thought on removing the sticker that probably won't hurt
the pipe: Remove the stem and put it in the freezer for an hour, then
scrape gently with your thumbnail.  If this doesn't work, you could
try buffing it off. As a last resort, a tiny bit of alcohol on a Q-tip
could be applied to just the sticky spot (though this might hurt the
finish.) Any others? -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????? (Bob)
Subject: posting from pipes page


Thanks for the digest.  My enjoyment of pipe smoking has been greatly
enhanced by the tips and techniques offered by you and other like
minded souls. My thanks goes out to all you Cyber Pipe Mentors!

I am trying to get some information on three pipes that I bought
recently at a Junk Shop (my wife calls them Antique Malls).  I have
been surfing the net to find information on these pipes and have come
up empty handed, so I offer this up to the assembled hundreds who read
this digest.  One pipe has "Dulcet" stamped into it, has a three digit
serial number, and "Made in France" stamped into it.  This particular
pipe also has the word "Export" stamped into it after the serial
number.  The other two pipes have "Dusky Dulcet" stamped into them, a
three digit serial number, and "Made in England."

Any info on the above is appreciated.  I figure they are probably the
Dr Grabows of England or something; but after I cleaned them up, they
really smoke well!

Thanks.  I look forward to my next edition of the digest.


[ From Wilczak and Colwell's invaluable "Who Made That Pipe?", Dulcet
is/was made by Comoy's. -S. ]

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From: Gretchen Dombrock (?????????????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page


I am a librarian posting this question for a patron.

The patron has a "jet pipe" from the 1930's & 40's.  He is would like
to have it appraised for it's value.  Can anyone suggest a website
that could help us identify and price this type of a pipe?

Thank you.

Gretchen Dombrock
Statesboro (GA) Public Library
email: ?????????????????????????

[ Again, Wilczak and Colwell lists three makers of pipes with "Jet" in
their name: "Jet Pipe" by Oppenheimer (France and England), "Jet
Plane" by Dunhill (England), and "Jet Stream" by S. M. Frank
(U.S.A.). Now, does anyone make a "Submarine" pipe? -S. ]

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From: John Lindly <?????????????????????>
Subject: re: wrong info in PD


Just a short note to tell you that the info printed in PD #243 about
"Who Made That Pipe?" being $18.25 from Tom Colwell is incorrect.  The
price should be $18.95 plus S & H.  I ordered it and he informed me of
the error.  I sent him all the info I had on PD as he had never heard of
it before.

Best regards,


[ Thanks for the correction. -S. ]

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From: "Eric V. Troken" <???????????????>

Dear Steve,

	I recently bought a meerschaum pipe I thought to be a Beckler.  It
is signed, and the workmanship is outstanding, but it doesn't have the
"signature" gold CAO stamp on the stem or the emblem on the case.  I
figured it was nothing to worry about b/c it had the CAO price tag still
on it.  Do you or anyone know if he is carving on his own and are there
fake pieces being sold? And has any one else come across this before?  Any
thoughts or considerations would be appreciated.

Eric Troken

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From: ?????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #243 -- October 19, 1997

Hi.  I've had some really good luck with pipes that have meerschaum 
inserts.  They habdle better than the pure stuff, yet need no breaking 
in.  I'd like to find a mail catalog that features these kind of pipes.  
Any ideas, anybody?  Thanks.

Brad Krones
Arizona State University
Tempe,  Arizona

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From: Jennifer Lindblad <??????????????????>
Subject: oil vs. air?

Dear Steve and fans of PD,

I have a question regarding air-cured vs. oil-cured pipes, in
particular how they produce different qualities of smoke.  The fact
that they do produce different smokes was nicely illustrated by Rob
Denholtz at a recent Hudson Valley Pipe Club meeting in Poughkeepsie,
NY.  Dunhill pipes seem to be all oil-cured, as do my Sasieni and
Peterson pipes.  On the other hand, Castellos are all air-cured.
Until now, though, I haven't read any article or overheard any debate
about the subject.  Air-curing is, I am told, a more lengthy procedure
that leads to a more "pure" smoke.  If so, why has Dunhill and others
continued to oil-cure their pipes?  Is there any advantage in flavor
and smoking quality to oil-curing that leads to its continued

Any thoughts on this subject, or any references, would be grately
appreciated.  Thanks!

Jennifer Lindblad

[ If I remember correctly, the theory behind oil curing is to drive
out the natural oils of the briar, which air curing leaves behind, and
which are supposed to affect the quality of the smoke.  For what it's
worth, I've had good smokers and poor ones in both categories.  Other
opinions welcome! -S. ]

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From: Rob Anderson <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Comments & cleaning question

[ Administrativa deleted. -S. ]

I'd also like to thank you again for providing such a service to pipe 
smokers everywhere. Thanks to you I was able to meet some like-minded 
souls here in Japan, something I doubt would have ever happened otherwise.

Now, some comments and questions to the list members at large:

I was touched by the completion of the 'Bishop's pipe' in #242 - such 
genuine kindness and concern is something I really didn't expect to read 
about in PD. I don't know if it's the pipe smoking that does it, but it 
was a nice gesture all the same. More people should see this side of pipe 
smokers - especially those who feel tobacco should be banned.

Another example of this is the lack of flaming - except for cross posts - 
on the a.s.p newsgroup. As you may know, just about every group and 
mailing list suffers from this kind of thing - a sad statement about 
people in general - so these pipe groups (both PD and the a.s.p 
newsgroup) are a refreshing change and restore my hope in people in 
general. Pipe (and cigar) smoking can't be that bad when it engenders 
such camaraderie.

On a more pipe-specific note, my Grandmother is finally going to sell her 
house and move in with my Uncle and, while cleaning out the basement, she 
found all my Great-Grandfather's pipes and accessories. I had mentioned 
to her earlier that I'd be interested in having anything that might turn 
up (nobody else in the family has any interest in pipes), so she sent 
them out to me last month.

When they finally arrived via surface mail (I live in Japan now), it was 
like having an early Xmas as I opened the package and went through it 
all. There were lots of accessories like stands, tobacco jars, tools, and 
pouches; and of course, his pipes. It seems he was a smoker first and 
foremost, so none of his pipes are of the brands I often read about here, 
but I wasn't disappointed in the least. It felt both strange and 
heartwarming to be holding something that had become a part of him for so 
long. I dug out the few family pictures I have here with me in Japan and 
sure enough, there was one of those very pipes in his hand.

To backtrack a little, I should mention that I was very close to my 
Great-Grandparents as I was able to share a lot of time with them until 
they passed away when I was in high school. My memories of my 
Great-Grandfather are filled with images of him and his pipe but 
strangely, I can't remember the smoke or aroma at all. When I was very 
young, he gave me a little corn cob pipe that I chewed on until the bit 
broke, and I still had it until I moved to Japan. Why I threw it out 
still puzzles me now.

But to get back to the pipes, I found that they're extremely dirty and 
will need a thorough cleaning that I'm not sure I can do myself without 
risking damage to them. Which brings me to my question: Can anyone 
recommend a reliable and not-too-expensive pipe cleaning business that I 
can send these pipes to? After consulting with a PD member in Tokyo, it 
was mentioned that it would probably be cheaper to send them abroad than 
have them cleaned here. If you know Japan, you know what I mean. Any help 
here would be greatly appreciated.


Rob Anderson <?????????????????????????>
Shizuoka-ken, Japan

[ Either Jim Cooke or Mark Tinsky could recondition your pipes.  Both
are listed in the Guide. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Dr. Grabow


Regarding information on Dr. Grabow.  The brand name is now owned by Lane
Limited.  The pipes are produced by Sparta Industries in Sparta, NC as they
have been since the early 1950's.  U.S. Tobacco bought S.I. in the late 60's
and sold it in 1996.  Without sounding too much like a proud father, the
craftsmen and women in Sparta produce an incredible pipe.  

As for Dr. Grabow, the legend is that he was a Chicago dentist who devised a
pre-smoking process.  A check of association records in Illinois turns up no
name even closely resembling Dr. Grabow.  The Linkman Co. apparently owned
the brand for some time - I have some WWII vintage magazine ads supporting
this, but no other info.  I don't know of anyEnglish connection other than
Wilson's & Co. who currently distribute Dr. Grabow in the UK.

Lest I be accused of bias, Yes I had the honor of being associated with
Sparta Industries, maker of Dr. Grabow Pre-Smoked Pipes, the greatest pipe,
for several years.

Warmest regards,

Doug Allen

[ Thanks for the update! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Collectors Guide to Kaywoodie Pipes


I recall reading in several older issues about people trying to locate Robert
Stokes, the author of The Collector's Guide to Kaywoodie Pipes.  Well, he's
been found! His new address is:

Bobb Stokes
615 Ratone Lane
Manhattan, KS 66502

His email address is ?????????????????  He recently sent out his last bound
copy of the guide to me, but he told me if he gets some requests he'll look
into the reprinting costs.

If I can be of any help to you or any of your members, please feel free to
drop me a line.

Bill Feuerbach III
Vice President-Sales
S.M. Frank & Co., Inc.
(Manufacturers of Kaywoodie, Yello-Bole, Medico Pipes)

[ Thanks for the detective work!  I've put Bobb Stokes' name into the
Guide. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: re: PD #243

In PD #243 Marcus Jacobs asked if there were any pipe-friendly gathering 
places in Gaithersburg, MD, where he will soon be moving.  I recommend 
Shelley's WoodRoast restaurant on Rockville Pike in Rockville--just down 
the road from G'burg.  Besides serving great food in a 
northwoods-lodge-styled environment, the place is smoke-friendly.  While 
the main dining room is smoke free, you can smoke & eat in the bar, which 
is actually comfortable and cozy.  Last summer, four of us had dinner 
there and had no problem smoking our pipes before and after dinner.  In 
addition, behind the bar, they have a cigar lounge, complete with humidor 
-lockers you can rent to keep your stash of stogies in.  Rush Limbaugh 
himself is reported to have a humidor there.
	For those of you in other metropolises, Shelly's is starting to 
expand into new territories beyond their homebase (and my hometown) of 
Minneapolis.  If you've got one in your city, check it out....

-Steve Johnson-

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From: ??????????????? (Michael Davis)
Subject: My web site

I have made a very basic homepage about my pipes with some links.  Hope you
will add it to the personal page links on the web site.  URL:

Keep up the great work on Pipes Digest and I look forward to each and every
issue of the Digest.  BTW, my browser opens to www.pipes.org.  :-)


[ I'm honored, and I'm sure that the Top Dog of the S.P.C.A. is too! -S. ]

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From: Oliver (??????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hi, I was wondering if there are any pipe smoker clubs in the Metro
Washington D.C. area???  Or if anyone is interested in starting an
informal club, just to meet somewhere in a pub to sit back and enjoy
and talk about pipes in general and whatever else there is.


[ There certainly is: Capital Area Pipe Smokers (CAPS). Contact:
Dr. John Weinstein, NSS, (703) 273-5737.  Sadly, my Digest mailings to
John have started bouncing, and I don't have a forwarding address.
If you can't raise him, you can contact CAPS through John B. Hayes,
Tobacconist at (703) 385-3033. -S. ]

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From: Jesper Klith <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Escudo is back

This famous tobacco is back on the market, now manufactured by A&C
Petersen in Denmark. You can find some photos on their homepage,
http://www.myownblend.dk, but unfortunately the text is (still?) only in

According to homepage, A&C Peterson use the same mix of tobaccos as used
in the original Escudo and they have bought the original old-fashioned 
machine used by Cope for processing the tobacco into the large spun-cut

I haven't tried either the new nor the original Escudo so I wouldn't
know if they taste the same. If your local tobacconist sells some of the
other tobaccos on the homepage he should be able to get the Escudo for
you as well.
Puffingly, Jesper from Denmark

[ Excellent news, Jesper! But I'll bet there will now be a market for
"original Escudo" developing!  BTW, does anyone here have a line on
Arcadia? :-) -S. ]

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From: MICHAEL GLUKLER <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Why do some briars smoke sweet and others don't?


  A cohort of mine and I have been discussing the virtues of some of our
favorite pipes, and we came up with something interesting.  We both agreed
that of all the pipes we own, that the ones made by Mark Tinsky smoke the
sweetest. This would make perfect sense if we both smoked sweet aromatics,
but we don't. My friend smokes mainly English/Oriental/Latakia blends, and
I smoke mainly Virginia/Perique Flakes.  

 Why did we both find the same thing? I asked Mark Tinsky, via e-mail, and
my friend asked Mark about it when he stayed with Mark this past summer.
Does Mark do some mystical thing to his briar? Does he have some magical
curing technique? Does the briar mill from which Mark buys his briar have
some special brew to boil the burls?

 When I asked Mark, he told me, he does not use any special curing
technique, and he does not use any magical oil bath. His tried and true
method is air drying for about five years. Anything beyond that is just

  When I asked about the briar mill, he said, has been buying his briar for
the past twenty years from the same mill, and they have not changed their

 What makes this all the more interesting is that recently I bought a pipe
from another maker, that buys his briar from Mark. This maker uses a pre -
carbon coating in the bowl, which is to " assist in cake building ". This
pipe does not smoke with the same sweet undertones as do the pipes made by
Mark. Mark's pipes do not have a pre - carbon coating. Has this coating
masked the natural sweetenss of the briar?  The pipe does smoke very well,
but there is a differance. 

 Also I have made a few pipes from kits I have purchased from Mark. All
were given away, except one I recently finished, as it had a few too many
flaws to be given away. It now sits proudly in my rack, and smokes just as
sweet as my three other Tinsky made pipes.  I also prefer to build the cake
naturally and use no coating paste. 

 My question to all your learned readers is, why is this so?? Could Mark be
right and it is just the right amount of time drying and luck? 

 Thanks for posting this, and BTW the Canadian Briar Brothers Pipe Club,
now tips the scale at 74 members.  With any luck we will top 100 before
years end.

 Michael J. Glukler
 Instigator at Large for the Canadian Briar Brothers 

[ Mark invokes the spirit of Sir Walter Raleigh in a midnight ritual
involving a pentagram, carnauba candles, and the sacrifice of 100
grams of MacBaren's "Golden Extra." :-)

Seriously, I do not know; Mark's modesty aside, there must be an
element of skill in selecting the right blocks.

BTW, Mark, I received the Christmas pipe.  It looks great, and I and
am counting the days until I christen it. -S. ]

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From: ?????????????????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I thought I'd drop a quick note to all simply to comment on Craig
Tarler's fine tobaccos at C&D.  I especially wanted to address the
issue of moist versus dry tobaccos.  It is my understanding that Craig
uses NO PG in his blends.  PG is the substance that draws moisture out
of the air to keep tobacco products moist.  I do consider that C&D are
tobacco BLENDS, while PG laden tobaccos are PRODUCTS.  It is opinion
that when you fine a smooth, cool, dry smoke that is easy to keep lit
and burns to a fine, dry, white ash, you have all you need!  While I
don't smoke any aromatics, I can tell you that Craigs english blends
have ALL had this fine burning characteristic.  I for one have NO
interest in returning to dottle instead of ash!

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From: "Lech Kowalewski" <??????????????????????>
Subject: briar blocks

Dear Sirs,

Could you inform me  about dimensions of the following briar blocks:
1) C 1-2
2) CM 1-2
3) CMF 1-2
4) CM 2-3
5) CMF 2-3
6) CM 3-4
7) CMF 3-4
8) M 1-2
9) MF 1-2
10) M 2-3
11) MF 2-3
12) M 3-4
13) MF 3-4
14) MF 4-5
15) S 1
16) MFF 2-3
17) MFF 3-4
18) MFF 1-2
19) PLS LL
20) PLS L
21) PLS
22) PLS M
24) R 1
25) R 1  1 / 4
26) R 1 1 / 2
27) RF 1 1/ 2
28) RI 3 /4
29) R 2
30) R 2 1 /4
31) R 2 1 /2
32) R 2 3 /4
33) SP
34) 15-26

rgds./Lech Kowalewski

Taxor Ltd.
Objazdowa 2
03-771 Warsaw
tel./fax: +48 22 6197288
e-mail: ?????????????????????? 

[ Well, I can't, but perhaps someone else here can?  Sorry, I have no
clue as to what these dimensions mean.  They must be somebody's coding
scheme. -S. ]

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From: nobody <?????????????????>
Subject: posting from pipes page

---------- posting ----------
Back in 1976 or 1977 I visited Boise, Idaho with my parents and found a
shop called The House of Robertson. This man had (it seemed) hundreds of
the most enormous pipes I have ever seen in my life.

Does anyone have any of these pipes, or memories of the shop? No one I've
spoken to seems to remember it.
---------- address ----------

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Thanks, Update & Special Request

     As a new member to this newsgroup, I wanted to say a collective 
     thanks; you've already made an impact on my collection.  After 
     learning of the Dunhill special promotion at Mom's Cigars in 
     Scarsdale, NY in a recent posting, I was able to get a Centennial ODA 
     for half price!  I also picked up a reprint of "My Lady Nicotine" by 
     J.M. Barrie from Thornbush Anthologies (so you don't have to look up 
     the prior reference, the tel/fax # is 208-882-6150).  It is a handsome 
     book at a reasonable price-- I recommend it and look forward to 
     finishing it.  By way of an update, the fax number listed in your link 
     to Dunhill tobaccos available from the Duke St. shop is out-of-date.  
     The correct number is (0)171 491 1489 (from the U.S.: 011 44 171 491 
     1489).  Inspired by John Loring's excellent history of tinned blends 
     and euolgy of mixtures past, I sample some of their current offerings 
     and greatly enjoyed them.  By the way, they can make up tins of ANY 
     mixture, even those not currently offered at Duke St. (such as "Ye 
     Olde Signe"), provided you order a minimum of 5 tins and can wait a 
     month or two.  On a final note, I was hoping that some members of the 
     newsgroup might be able to help me.  I have several Dunhill leather 
     accessories in the "Classic" series (black with contrasting 
     rust-colored stitching).  Unfortunately, this series was discontinued 
     and I am trying to find a three-pipe case (the smaller one-- w/o the 
     magnetic button flap-- it is about the size of a pouch of Sobranie but 
     deeper) to complete my set.  Should anyone be able to direct me to a 
     shop with one in stock, or sell me their own should they have one in 
     good condition, I would be gratified and willing to offer a modest 
     cash reward or gift of tobacco.  Thanks!  -Charles Phillips
     ????????????????????????? (ignore above address)

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From: "REGO43" <??????????????????>
Subject: cleaning a used pipe

Greetings Steve;  My name is Everett Costa, and am looking for some
information on how to clean a used pipe.  I go to flea markets and yard
sales quite often, and see some nice pipes.  My question is how is the best
way to clean these pipes?  Some of them look clean but I would like to
reclean them.  I would be grateful for any help you can give me.
          Thank you, Everett Costa
                           Email ??????????????????

[ See the Web page for a description of some cleaning methods. -S. ]

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From: ???????????????????????????????? (Marcel Frauenknecht)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Dear pipe smokers fellows:

If you're in Berne Switzerland there is a place who's a must for a pipesmoker!
There is a little pipeshop in Berne, not easy to find but worth to try it.
It's name is tabak gourmet and the owner is peter hadorn, a realy nice man.
During you can talk about pipes he offers you a cup of coffee. 
He's has the DON CARLOS Pipes specially made for him.
Steve you had a picture of my double bowled pipe once at the homepage.
And he has some rare jewels of pipe smoking like PORSCHE Pipes, COMOYS,
(Known from the internet
http://www.mountwashingtonvalley.com/pipe/#anchor35780145 )
and and and ......
Peter has an Internetadress: ??????????????????????
The shop's adress is 
tabak gourmet
Peter Hadorn
Waaghausgasse 5
3011 Bern
Phone 031 311 57 53
>From the main railwaystation you go down the Spitalgasse
and pass the Kaefigturm, then turn left and you're in the 
Waaghausgasse. After about 50 meters on the right is the shop.
Have all a pleasant and peaceful smoke
Marcel Frauenknecht

[ I've added him to the Guide, Marcel. Thanks! -S. ]

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From: ????????????? (Mike)
Subject: posting from pipes page

RE: The Pipe Smokers Ephemeris, Hardcover Vol I

If anyone here has a copy of the Vol I of the 
Ephemeris compilation and wishes to part with it, please 
let me know.  I am willing to part with cash or 
pipes.  It makes no difference whether it is a 
first edition or second edition.  E-mail me (?????????????).

Thanks, and happy smoking!


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From: John Lindly (?????????????????????)
Subject: posting from pipes page


Good job on PD!  I need all the help I can get with my new hobby.  I
need to know if anyone can tell me about a pipe with the nomenclature
"Coventry" by Sasieni, Made in England, 93s.  It's not a "spotted"
pipe but I can't believe it was a second given the absolutely terrific
blast it has with horizontal (growth?) rings and beautiful
flame/straight grain.  It is the nicest blast I have out of Dunhills,
Parkers, Petersons, etc. Thanks again for all your good work!


John Lindly

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From: Jesper Klith <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Reconstruction of painted logos

A lot of pipes have a company logo in white paint on the stem. However,
after some time - and buffing speeds the process - this logo is often
worn off. Is it possible to reconstruct such a logo and how is it done?


[ Is it just painted on, or is it stamped into the stem and then
painted?  If it's just painted on, it might be difficult to re-apply
the logo, but if it's stamped it might be just a matter of painting
it again with some model airplane paint and wiping off the excess
paint. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Addendum

     I neglected to mention in my prior e-mail that I am trimming my 
     collection a little and am selling an assortment of unsmoked British 
     pipes (mainly Dunhill, Ashton, and Upshall) as well as some unopened 
     tins of McClelland-made English/Oriental tobacco blends.  If anyone 
     would like a list, send an e-mail to ????????????????????????? and I 
     will reply with a copy.  Thanks, -Charles Phillips

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: PD Submission--CORPS show

On Columbus Day weekend, I attended my first pipe show:  the 
CORPS show in Richmond, Virginia.  A couple of friends who'd attended 
last year talked me in to accompany them.  (They didn't have to try that 
hard.)  Ostensibly, I went with the intent of only getting a pipe rack to 
hold my rapidly-expanding collection.  (Yeah, sure...)  Well, on 
Saturday morning, I did indeed find a nice used, 20-pipe lazy-susan type 
rack.  A real highlight of the weekend was meeting some of the people 
I've been reading about in PD over the last year, including Mark Tinsky 
(the biggest "find" I've scored was finding a 1986 Tinsky Christmas Pipe 
in an estate pipe sale); and Bill Unger of the North American Socitey of 
Pipe Collectors (who of course talked me into a membership, and whom I 
gratefully hold responsible for spending even more money that weekend!)  
Bill pointed out the interview with Paul Bonaquisti in NASPC's latest 
issue, then pointed Paul's table out.  There, besides Paul, was an 
exquisite churchwarden--something I've always wanted.  Not much time 
passed before it became the most expensive pipe I've ever bought.  On 
Sunday, my heart talked me into buying my first Italian Pipe--a carved, 
bent RoverArt.  I also picked up a few modestly-priced additions to the 
collection, including a Comoy's and a Savinelli--my first billiards.  By 
the time I left on Sunday, the excess capacity in my new circular pipe 
rack was already filled!
	A hats-off thanks to CORPS for a most enjoyable and successful 
show.  I'm already looking forward to next year's show, and I haven't 
even broken in all of this year's treasures.

-Steve Johnson
 Alexandria, VA-

[ CORPS is, indeed, a great bunch.  Maybe next year I'll be able to
get down there. -S. ]

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From: "Brian Keevan" <???????????????????>

	I tried to find a phone number to Stemco-Pimo in VT but was
unable to come up with one. Do they still exist? How old is the
catalog that was scanned? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks


[ At last word, Stemco-Pimo, is being run by Al Baier, Butternut Lane,
P.O.  box 2043, Manchester Center, VT 05255. Phone: (802)
362-3371. Email: ???????????????????  If this is incorrect, please
drop me a note. -S. ]

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From: Brian Bendersky <???????????????????>
Subject: The Second Annual NYC Post Turkey Day Cigar Crawl.  (NYCPTDCC

Friday November 28th 1997

The Second Annual NYC Post Turkey Day Cigar Crawl.  (NYCPTDCC II)

Sponsored by CigarLife - The Internet Cigar Magazine.  Join us for a multi
store "Cigar Crawl" in NYC on the day after Thanksgiving. We'll be stopping
en mass at many of NYC's major cigar stores with a rest stop for lunch and
a post crawl dinner. For more information on times and the schedule join
the NYCrawl list.

Send a message to ??????????????????????? with the following command in the
body of your e-mail message:
    subscribe nycrawl

see you there,

Brian Bendersky 

C++ p c--

CigarLife - The Internet Cigar Magazine

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	"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any
	government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
	Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them.
	One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes
	impossible to live without breaking laws."

			        -Ayn Rand
				 "Atlas Shrugged"

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #244 -- November 16, 1997
  2. Subject: Pipes Digest
  3. Subject: posting from pipes page
  4. Subject: SPCA
  5. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #243 -- October 19, 1997
  6. Subject: Maintaining the Lustre of a brair pipe
  7. Subject: Buffing station setup
  8. Subject: Letter to all
  9. Subject: I have a stupid question
  10. Subject: Different alcohols, Pipe cleaning, Falcon pipes
  11. Subject: Pipe Puffer
  12. Subject: comment from pipes page
  13. Subject: Problems
  14. Subject: posting from pipes page
  15. Subject: posting from pipes page
  16. Subject: posting from pipes page
  17. Subject: re: wrong info in PD
  18. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #243 -- October 19, 1997
  19. Subject: oil vs. air?
  20. Subject: Comments & cleaning question
  21. Subject: Dr. Grabow
  22. Subject: Collectors Guide to Kaywoodie Pipes
  23. Subject: re: PD #243
  24. Subject: My web site
  25. Subject: posting from pipes page
  26. Subject: Escudo is back
  27. Subject: Why do some briars smoke sweet and others don't?
  28. Subject: posting from pipes page
  29. Subject: briar blocks
  30. Subject: posting from pipes page
  31. Subject: Thanks, Update & Special Request
  32. Subject: cleaning a used pipe
  33. Subject: posting from pipes page
  34. Subject: posting from pipes page
  35. Subject: posting from pipes page
  36. Subject: Reconstruction of painted logos
  37. Subject: Addendum
  38. Subject: PD Submission--CORPS show
  39. Subject: The Second Annual NYC Post Turkey Day Cigar Crawl. (NYCPTDCC
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