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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999

		  Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999
   Copyright (C) 1999 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 3740

Welcome to new members:

	John Gioannetti
	Avrum Glasner
	Joseph M. Crable
	Robert Higgins
	Kristopher Skelton
	L. Erik Plourde
	Ba Law
	Phil Paullin
	David Braynerd Pei
	Eric X. Hunt
	Bill Taney
	Raymond C. Mays
	Frank G. Smith
	Phillip Taylor
	Robert C. Runowski
	David O'Flaherty
	Shay A. Files
	Jan-Jasper Fast
	David Isham
	Victor Miller
	Joe Mirabal
	Terry Nixon
	Ms. Lourdes Claveria
	Steven Gessler
	Glen Ray Robinson
	Ricklin Brown
	Martin BeRube
	Badruka Srikanth
	Dan Dawson
	Tom Rieschick
	Robert A. Hotchkiss
	Julian Nicholls
	Jerry Brick
	Jose Starosta
	Mr. Donald Mumma
	Larry E. Comeaux
	John Wilson
	Fred Payne
	Angel Pardo
	Frank Hansen
	Michael S. Combs
	Gordon V. Harmon
	Al Steenson
	Brett Kelly
	Elizabeth Albert
	Jimmy Clark
	Paul Burton
	Porucik Kerpof
	Jose M. Levy
	Victor Seested
	Boris Foss Sorensen
	Robert G. Schrap
	Dennis De Simone
	Thomas J. Monette
	Rob Denholtz
	Zane Mackin
	Zoltan Szabo
	Tom Rubane
	Michael Gradel
	Jp Daubenfeld
	Brent Mossop
	Howard L. Sheppard
	Bruce Vanstone
	Daniel Owen
	Haim Mahlev
	Steve Mowles
	Ken Brown
	Ken Gehalo
	Marco. . Francescosaverio
	Peter Hogaboam
	Joe Oechsli
	Christopher R. Sharp
	Richard Foss
	Charles Keim
	John D. Oerter
	Robert Carew
	Kenneth Paul Ryan
	Matthew Wilmoth
	Gerald Bartlow
	Barry Taylor
	Graeme Skinner
	Vincent Cipriani
	Cheryl L Cain
	K. C. Kelly
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	Ricardo Defaveri Murer
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	Dave Livesey
	Frank Shaw
	Matthew Harwood
	Don Bellchamber
	Drew Williams
	Cl Westerman
	Joe Knor
	Scott Nye
	Justin Eagle
	Charles Graf
	Paul C. Onucu
	Luciano Lorenzi
	Paolo Omodei-Zorini
	Gary Potts
	James Pajuelo
	Denny Haley

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From: "Tardy, Darryl" <?????????????????????>
Subject: Montreal area

Hello !
I hope this is the right way to post a question to the digest! ( if not,
would you please advise?). 

My question: is there anyone in the pipesmoking community who knows of a
pipe club in the area of Montreal, Quebec. (If not, what about Ottawa ?)
Seems like there's a lot of activity south of the border, but we don't
often hear much about activity in the Eastern part of Canada ! Maybe
it's time to start one ??

Thank you, 

Darryl.   [...good friends, a good brew, and a fine bowl....mmm...]

[The Resource Guide has a couple of listings for Montreal and Ottawa,
but no club per se. If you hear of anything, please let us know. -S.]

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From: Wally Root <??????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Club and Show Info

I am a long time pipe smoker who lives in Pittsburgh Pa.  As a young
man I remember Pittsburgh with many fine pipe/smoke shops.  I went into
the service and returned a decade or so later to find few remaining.
So, I am relegated to going onto the internet to visit fellow
pipesmokers.  While reading the digest, the thought occured to me to do
a little research.  "Perhaps I should write and ask for information
regarding the existance of a pipe club/show in Pittsburgh and, lacking
that, ask for assistance in setting one up", I thought.  So, here I am
asking those very questions.  Can anyone help me locate a pipe club or
show in the Pittsburgh area?  Is there anyone willing to assist me in
starting one in the Pittsburgh area?  

Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

[There's Bloom's Cigar Camp, but I don't know of a Pittsburgh pipe
club per se. I'm sure there are a lot of folks who could help you get
one rolling! -S.]

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: Amsterdam

I am going to Amsterdam this Thursday for a few days R & R!!  This was
at pretty short notice but it would be nice to pop into any decent pipe
and baccy shops while I was there.  Does anyone know of anywhere?  As
time is limited a direct reply to ?????????????????????? would be

Keep puffin'

[Sorry, this is probably too late to help. -S.]

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From: "Cohen, James M" <????????????????????>

Good day.  My name is James Cohen and I am planning a trip to London on
24, April.    I am looking for the ultimate guide to Pipe-smoking shops,
museums, value retail links etc. in the London area.    I'm very excited
to visit a country where the art of pleasures of smoking are not halted
as they are in Massachusetts, United States.

Thank you ever so much for any information.

	>James   M.  Cohen
	>PHS Materials Management - Purchasing
	>Fax Number:   617-623-5471
      >Pager:  617-724-5700  Pager 33706

[Again, too late to make a difference... but the first place to check
would always be the Resource Guide at
http://www.pipes.org/resource_guide.html. Constantly updated by over
3739 dedicated researchers! -S.]

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: trip from memphis to santa fe

I'm going to be taking a trip from Memphis, TN to Santa Fe, NM along I40 
and I'm interested in stopping at good pipe shops along the way.  I'd 
appreciate hearing from members about what and where the good pipe shops are.

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               (       \_   <          www.people.memphis.edu/~tklnckmn/
byebye,         )/`-.    _./           
tom                  )_/

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999

Is the Pipe Smoker's Ephemerious  still in publication?   Thanks! Noel  Wight

[ Yes, indeed; the 35th Anniversary Issue arrived a few weeks ago.
See the Resource Guide at http://www.pipes.org/resource_guide.html for
the address. -S. ]

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From: "Rick Larson" <????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999

Hello, all. While a brash youth living in Southern California, I bought a 
few of The Pipe. They seemed modern. Being something of an adventurer, I
also got in the car and drove to Super-Temp Corporation. The inventor of The
Pipe (I don't recall his name; he would be in his 60's now?) met me at a
huge, hanger-like aerospace manufacturing facility and showed me where the
pyrolytic graphite bowls were made. It seemed a handmade, few-at-a-time
effort. I still don't know how The Pipe fit in to what they were doing at
this location. The Pipe production was, perhaps, an accommodation to the
desires of a star employee, because this plant had *nothing* to do with The
Pipe, except that The Pipe was made there. It was a huge fabrication
facility doing things entirely unrelated to pipe smoking. Perhaps they were
exploring all of the possible commercial outlets for a new material they had

I mention my experiences, just to add to the lore. I tried to love The Pipe
because of my excellent treatment by it's father, but

[The rest of the message somehow got cut off. -S.]

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From: "Bill Thacker" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Hunting and pipes

SM wrote:

> Actually, a lot of people here in the United States associate pipes 
> with outdoors activities, esp. camping and hunting (the two go 
> hand-in-hand after all).  
> [We seem to have slightly opened a can of venison here... For the
> record, I'm neither a hunter nor a vegetarian, and have no strong
> opinions on the subject of deer hunting, except the following. 

(sermon deleted)

> The Indians/Native Americans used to apologize to the
> animals they hunted; it seems strange, but I think this is a good
> thing. -S. ]

Here in the United States, esp.  in the eastern half of the nation,
deer are overpopulated to near-disastrous proportions.  They've 
become adorable, graceful, beautiful rats.  Kill all you want, 
they'll make more.  (If you're of the mind to apologize, don't forget
all the cows, pigs, and chickens that someone else killed for you.  At
least they weren't stealing money from neighborhood farmers.)

Now in practical terms, smoking and hunting don't mix well because
tobacco smoke/nicotine is a very distinctive odor which wild animals
quickly learn to associate with humans.  I'm not a hunter myself, but
many of those I know I fastidious in this regard. They won't smoke at
all the morning of a hunt, to avoid having the odor cling to their
clothes.  I'd suggest leaving your pipe back at the lodge and enjoying
it after the day's hunt.

But, the real reason I'm writing is to gloat.  :-)

Some of the longer-standing members of this list will recall the 
"tall tales" I used to post at irregular intervals, improbable but 
(hopefully) entertaining stories about pipe history and mythology.  
In other words, sheer fabrications. 

Back in '94, I wrote one about pipe smoking in ancient Egypt during
the days of the Pharoahs. (I've included it, below, for those with 
the correct combination of curiosity, time to waste, and masochism.)

Well, the experts scoffed.  They said I was mad, mad, I tell you! 
"Tobacco", they lectured, "was unknown outside the Americas until
after Columbus' voyage."  They accused me of revisionism and concocting
an utter fantasy.  Duh!

So it was with some relish (and mustard) that I saw this weekend on
the Discovery Channel (or TLC, durned if I can tell 'em apart), a
rather interesting piece on recent discoveries surrounding Egyptian
mummies.  Seems some researcher in Germany started doing some tests on
hair specimens, only to find the mummies showed evidence of exposure
to hashish, cocaine, and (drum roll, please) nicotine.  In analyzing
cloth fibers, another researcher found fibers from tobacco (or a near-

I gathered that this is by no means fully accepted; one naysayer
attributed the nicotine and tobacco fibers to contamination because 
so many archaeologists smoked pipes. (And snorted coke, no doubt.:-)

But others surmise that a close relative of the tobacco plant may have
existed in the Old World, but went extinct millenia ago.  A bit
further "out there" is a theory of prehistoric cross-Atlantic trade,
bringing coca leaves and tobacco to Africa. (Tobacco at least has 
eearwrelatives in the Old World:  mandrake, for example, some of 
which have nicotine in very weak concentrations.  No known Old World
plant bears any cocaine at all.  So hard as it is to explain Egyptian
tobacco, it's harder still to explain Egyptian cocaine.)

Another researcher pointed out that the nicotine concentrations were
huge, near the lethal level, and surmised that a tobacco-like plant
may have been used during the mummification process.  Suffice to say,
I feel vindicated.  Heck, if my fiction is this accurate, imagine what
my *serious* theories must be like! :-)

---- Bill Thacker

(Here's that 1994 document.)

In a previous issue of the digest, I commented on how the history of briar
was confused by the possible influence of the Egyptians, and promised to
expound on that comment.

Excavations of the tombs of Tutankhamen and other Egyptian nobility 
indicate that pipes figured heavily in the mummification and burial ritual.
The Egyptians believed that smoking raised one's spiritual consciousness;
symbolically, a small portion of the deceased's heart was burned in a brass
device not unlike the Turkish hookah.  But a startling revelation at the 
1992 Conference of the Chicago Association for Lost Aegypt has shed new 
light on this practice.  

The Conference featured a panel discussion on the construction of the
pyramids, and was widely attended by historians, archaeologists, and
architects.  While this blue-ribbon team made much progress in
understanding ancient Egypt, the real breakthrough came as an event
of pure serendipity.  

It chanced that the hotel was also hosting another conference, this one for
the Benevolent Alliance of Sausage Handlers. The meatpackers were having 
quite a time celebrating their 50th anniversary (held, of course, in the 
city known as "hog butcher for the world"), and the liquor was flowing fast.  

One of the attendees was none other than Jimmy Dean, who I'm sure many of
you have seen on television advertisements.  Just how drunk he was isn't 
recorded, but he was far enough gone that he accidentally staggered into 
the wrong ballroom.  Expecting to hear a lecture on the latest sausage 
curing techniques, Jimmy found himself looking at a cross-section of 
Cheop's pyramid.  He leaned over and whispered to a woman standing nearby,
in a voice loud enough to be heard throughout the room, "Mah mama used to
cure hams in a smokehouse lahk that!  Mmm-mmm!"   

After the ushers had removed Mr. Dean, several of the archaeologists
realized that he was on to something; in certain ways, the pyramid *did*
look like a smokehouse.  And when word spread that the sausage conference
had an open bar, a motion to merge the two conferences for an
"interdisciplinary exchange of ideas" passed unanimously.

The result, of course, was the now-famous 1992 CALA-BASH conference.  It
took another 9 months to confirm their initial findings, but confirmed they

Once the scribbled, beer-stained notes from the convention were deciphered,
the conference proceedings were published.  The long-standing belief that
mummification was meant to preserve a body for resurrection was debunked.
"Instead," the proceedings stated, "the burial process was a spiritual 
send-off for the deceased.  The body, in funereal wrappings, was placed in
a sarcophogas, itself on a bier surrounded by the finest tobaccos.  A 
charcoal burner was set alight, kindling the tobacco, then the entranceway
to the tomb sealed.  Cleverly designed channels in the pyramid itself acted
to create draft, bringing fresh oxygen into the smoking chamber and burning
the tobacco at a precisely-controlled rate.  The aromatic vapors permeated
the sarcophogas (itself needed to protect the body from the heat), 
literally smoke-curing the body while, it was believed, helping the soul 
loft upward toward heaven.  " 

Seen in this context, the ritual burning of a piece of the deceased's heart
is now seen as a ceremony performed for the benefit of the survivors, a
symbolic demonstration of what was taking place inside the pyramid.  And
the pyramids may rightly be considered the largest pipes ever built.

This breakthrough naturally led researchers to look for further evidence of
pipelore in Egyptian history, and many significant finds were made.  We now
know that the earliest Egyptian pipes were constructed of sun-baked brick,
being thicker (and heavier) than our modern clay pipes.  These quickly
became a rage, demand growing so fast that the Hebrews were enslaved to 
make the brick pipes, and records prove that shortages of stems were 
frequent.  (The Bible records one such incident during the reign of
Rameses; sadly, mis-translation from the Greek has turned "stems" into

As Egyptian culture became more sophisticated, so too did their pipes, so
that within a few hundred years ornately painted pipes were common among 
the rich.  Skilled artisans became interested in pipemaking, and intricate
carvings became the rule of the day.  Most of these were stereotypically 
Egyptian, featuring busts of jackal-headed gods; clearly these were the 
ancestors of today's carved meerschaums (which, adapted to western custom,
now portray skulls and the like).  

Finally, with the advent of metalworking, elaborate brass water pipes
evolved.  These were to have tremendous impact on Middle Eastern culture;
more durable than clay, they could survive the hardships of travel and were
thus ideal for the many nomadic tribes in the region.  They became a staple
in Arab culture; indeed, Aladdin's "Magic Lamp" was originally a water
pipe. (Sadly, anti-smoking revisionists have warped that legend beyond

It can be shown that Arab coffee makers began as modified water pipes; so
the final irony is that espresso, so beloved to our modern tobacco-hating
crowd, owes its origin to smoking!

Ancient Egypt must also be credited with the invention of the pipe nail;
in this case, miniature gold obelisks, which chemical analyses have shown
to bear traces of tobacco ash.  On the other hand, ashtrays were unknown to
them, which was to have tragic consequences for the Library at Alexandria.

Briar, sadly, was unknown to Africa until the Crusades, and no other
suitable wood was found in the Middle East, though legends recount several
failed attempts at wooden pipes.  (Bible scholars believe that the story of
Moses and the Burning Bush is an allegory for the ancient pipemaker's
quest for a suitable wood.)

So it was that Egypt's influence on smoking was exclusively in the form of
the hookah.  These traveled far and wide; certainly reaching as far as
Turkey and India, where they remain to this day an important cultural

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Bill Thacker                                          ?????????????
 Bill's Rail Buggy Page: http://www.ds.net/~gunner/buggy/buggy.html

"Transported to a surreal land, a young girl kills the first woman she
meets and then teams up with three complete strangers to kill again."  
 - capsule summary of "The Wizard of Oz"

[Warning: the next letter contains references to hunting, ranting, and
carnivorianism.  And, in the Department of Truth which is Stranger
than Fiction, see two articles ahead. -S]

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From: "Bill Thacker" <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Hunting and pipes


If you call this a "rant", you must be a real wimp.  :-)
I agree completely - taking a life is a solemn moment.  It may
not be observed with any sort of ceremony, but giving hunters their
due, they understand better than most citizens what it means to kill
and to eat.

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Bill Thacker            Lucent Technologies    Network Wireless Systems
??????????????             (614) 860-5294                Columbus, Ohio       

> Not for Digest pub: off-topic and slight rant.
> > (If you're of the mind to apologize, don't forget all the cows, pigs,
> > and chickens that someone else killed for you.  At least they weren't
> > stealing money from neighborhood farmers.)
> Totally agree. Or better yet, kill, skin, and butcher your dinner
> yourself at least once in your life, preferably early. Too many
> suburbatronic units now believe that hamburger grows in refrigerator
> cases in the supermarket, and that the shrinkwrap is the peel.
> Like I said, I'm not averse to hunting (believe me, after having
> killed a six-point buck with a 1993 Tercel, I realize that the
> critters have got to be controlled in a better way than automotive
> impacts.) But if anyone's gonna do it (especially around my person,
> property, and pets) they'd better do it in a careful and responsible
> manner. 
> A little sober consideration of the fact that one is taking a life
> doesn't hurt either, IMHO.
> End of rant... ~\U S.

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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Altered tobacco plants able to clean up explosives

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- British researchers said Tuesday they had
genetically engineered tobacco plants so they could remove explosives
from soil.

Full details at http://www.cnn.com/NATURE/9904/28/tobacco.cleaners.reut/

[Unfortunately, this link seems to be stale now. Sigh... -S.]

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From: "John C. Loring" <?????????????????????>
Subject: Tobacco Dating Article on web page

Just a note to let you know that I have posted my recent Pipe Friendly =
"Dating English Tinned Tobaccos" article on my web site, see:  =

all the best,

John C. Loring                 Voice   773 - 935-0710      =20
700 W Irving Park Rd        Fax     773 - 871-8374
Chicago, Illinois  60613     Email  ?????????????????????   =20

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From: Peter Fackelmann <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999

From: Mick <???????????????????>
Q: What does one do... that one's house does not end up smelling like
an ashtray?

Smoking natural tobacco. Perfumed tobacco leaves a smell like a combination
of ...



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From: Bill Taylor <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999

Mick <???????????????????> asked:
>Q: What does one do if one refuses to yield the luxury of
>smoking in one's house, but wishes (for the sake of family
>and guests) that one's house does not end up smelling like
>an ashtray? What kinds of air purifiers have you found to be
>[I use a Honeywell HEAP II air purifier.  Also, an Aladdin kerosene
>lamp seems to burn up a lot of the smell too. -S.]

Just light a candle while you smoke. Works for me.

Puff in peace.

Bill Taylor <???????????????????????>


[Well, the candle is simpler.  But the HEPA filter makes the lady of
the house feel better.  And the Aladdin lantern (abmer Washington
Drape with an amber glass shade) adds a nice 1890s touch to the
editing of the Digest. -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: fatherhood

Hello Steve and other readers,
I am a very occasional but enthusiastic pipe smoker.  I only smoke when I can 
steal a half hour to sit and do nothing except smoke my pipe.  That is a rare 
occasion, indeed.  I favor English blends with both Latikia and Perique.

I have some happy news to relate:  My dear wife and I gave birth to a new 
daughter on March 19th, 1999.  We have another daughter who was just 5 years 
old on March 31st.  Our first child was born when I was 47, the same year I 
finished my Master of Arts degree in music, classical guitar performance.  I 
cut both of their umbilical cords and used a different knive each time, so 
each daughter has her own heirloom.  The first knife I used was my Randall 
Model 18 that I used while serving in the 82d Airborne Division.  The second 
daughter was released into the world with another Randall, the "Smithsonian 
Bowie", purchased to commemorate a family reunion where we announced our 
pregnancy last August.

Our new daughter is starting to open her eyes more and more and hold her 
wobbly head up in a characteristically weak and charming way.

Having children is not for everyone, but it's heaven for me, sleepless nights 
and all.  I've done a lot in my time, so this is the logical time to go home 
every night and be glad to stay home.  I waited a long time to be a Dad, so 
I'm making the most of it.  

I still manage to play a few jobs every so often and I teach a few yoga 
classes a week in addition to a full time teaching job in a charter school in 
DC, but the real instrument is my family.  I would definitely say that if 
there is any doubt about whether or not you want to be a parent, don't do it. 
 It is definitely a full time job for two people. 

Thanks for reading all this.

John Giunta, MA, FRC, DD
multi-instrumental performance artist
teacher of yoga and meditation
spiritual voyager

[Thanks for sending it, John! -S.]

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From: Dan Wheeler-The American Legion <???????????????????>
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999

A question for you or your readers: Does anyone know the address/phone 
number/email/web site where I might find a "Pipeking."  Hacker speaks of 
them in his book -- it's a small machine that smokes pipes at a constant 
rate.  Smoke can be absorbed or released into the surroundings.  I would 
like to have one to color a few meerschaums and perhaps break in a couple 
of those hard-to-break-in pipes.  Any information would be appreciated. 
 Dan Wheeler   ???????????????????

[The address is in the back of Hacker's "The Ultimate Pipe Book" (at
least, the first edition.) Pipeking, Bellinghieri Enterprises, 75
North Union St., Arlington, MA 02174. If anyone can confirm that
they're still in business, please let me know and I'll list them in
the Guide. -S.]

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From: "David Woollard-Kingston" <???????????????>
Subject: Falcon tobaccos

Dear Mr. Masticola,

Please forgive me if I'm in eror mailing direct to you, but I would be =
grateful if this could appear in the next posting of Pipe Digest.

Incidentally, I recieved the first issue of this today and its a very =
enjoyable read.

My question concerns the tobaccos brought out several years ago by the =
Falcon Pipe Co. Their Faclon Aromatic blend was an all time favourite of =
mine but sadly this finally disappeared about four years ago - I'm told =
by my tobacconist that it was noy a success and therefore withdrawn. I =
would be very grateful to know if this (or a similar blend) is still =
produced by anyone else.


David Woollard-Kingston

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From: Peter Melchior <???????????????>
Subject: Pipe problem

Hi Steve,

There is something funny going on with my pipes.
It'isnt coming from the inside, they all taste well. 
It is very hard to explain, as English isn't my mother tongue.
( I can barely explain it in my own language ;-( )

They are feeling a kind of "sticky" in my mouth.
Instead of the smooth experience I had, meaning how the stem
(mouthpeace) feels in your mouth, (smooth!), they've all changed into
what I can describe as a *very* fine grade of abrasive paper. (Not that
I ever treated them with whatsoever) I won't say there is a sertain
taste, however a slight bitterness is experienced.

To me it looks like they are covered with a (to me unknown) layer.
Funny thing is it is happening to *all* of my pipes, even with a 30+ yr
old barely smoked Lovatt.

I'm considering purchasing a "buffing wheel" and treat them all.

Is it possible that a sertain chemical originating from your mouth 
( an enzyme ? ) is causing this problem?

I like to have your opinion.


Peacefull puffing from the Netherlands,

Peter Melchior

[It sounds more like sand or dirt, Peter. Buffing should help. -S.]

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From: Gourgen Oganessyan <?????????????????????????>
Subject: calabash

Hi everyone!
Thanks to all those who replied and answered my question. Since the  last
submission I made a brief visit to the US and added a peterson to my
collection (and I love it!).
Does anybody know where I can get a real calabash for a reasonable price.
I saw one in the US but it was way to big for my liking (and way to

 Smoke in peace!


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From: Maurizio Tombari <????????????????>
Subject: E-commerce

Hallo Steve,

I spoke with my ISP about the general problem of protecting credit card
information on Internet.
We should have to garanteed using a secure server.  With this method the
credit card numbers are "criptated" and the seller will be able to read
just the last four numbers of the credit card. I know and use one of
them, called Open market, on my site. They will be the future of the

Smoke in peace         Maurizio Tombari

Maurizio Tombari "Le Nuvole"
Briar pipe maker - http://www.pipe.it
Via Passeri 167 - 61100 Pesaro, Italy
Tel./Fax +39 0721 30750

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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page


Belated thanks for your continuing great work!

On the issue of the Mr.Paul affair, after my anger and amazement
quieted down, I realized that in recent years,this is ONLY the second
instance of shabby business practice that I can recall having been
posted (can we ever forget Barry's son Nikos?).

I think that this low incidence says a great deal to commend the pipe
buying and trading community as an overall great group of people to
deal with.

Think positive for pipe smoking and the internet.

Lance Sang, M.D.

[Indeed, and thanks for the upbeat note! -S.]

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From: Peter Fackelmann <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999

From: Gourgen Oganessyan <?????????????????????????>
>I also have a Falcon which I have just finished
>breaking in, it does indeed smoke cooler than most other pipes

Falcon pipes claim to catch the condensation better than other pipes.
For me it's just a fake. Carrying 7 pipes with me and smoking slowly I
have never a significant condensation problem.
But Falcon pipes 'make' condensation at the border between wood and metal.
And then the clever salesman opens the pan and shows you 'how much'
fluid you didn't have to swallow,-)

>are corncobs any good.

Yes, but for a reduced time (50 smokes perhaps)
I use them to test new tobaccos and as guest pipes.



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From: Peter Fackelmann <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999

From: ????????????????????
>How do guys store LARGE pipe collections with LARGE pipes?

My 35 pipes are stored in small (office) containers.
On box takes 7 pieces - matching my pipe's bag capacity.
You can buy them made of cardboard, plastic etc.
I use DIN A 5, but for larger pipes DIN A 4 (letter, legal) would fit.
They come with 3, 4 or more stories.
One can as well take single boxes and pile them up (glued together?).


Bald guy Peter,-)

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From: ????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hi Steve, I have been a long time subscriber and reader of your
wonderful publication. I've picked up many tidbits of information over
the years of perusing the digest, you have my sincerest thanks for
this labor of love. My reason for this submission is to request you
add 2 pipe/cigar shops to your resource guide. Pipes By George has
extensive pipe inventories from basket pipes to very high grades, a
wide selection of tobaccos as well as a fine selection of cigars and
nasal snuff. George also offers a large array of darts and related
supplies. The staff in both shops are knowledgable, friendly and will
assist in any way possible. If anyone happens to be in the
Raleigh/Chapel Hill NC area I urge them to stop by one or both of thee
locations.  Dave

Pipes By George                            Pipes By George
1209 Hillsborough Street                   15 The Courtyard
Raleigh, NC  27603                         Chapel Hill, NC  27515
Phone:(919)829-1167                        Phone: (919)967-5707 

[Done, and thanks! -S.]

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From: ??????????????????????? (Michael Stanley)
Subject: Re:Radford's Sunday Fantasy

To respond to inquiry of Radford's tobacco.I picked up a tin at Cousin's
Cigars in Cleveland not too long ago.Cousin's will ship and is located 
in the resource guide.Nice folks.I like to tobacco,or more 
importantly,my Wife likes it indoors.$10.00/100gr tin if memory serves.

Michael Stanley <???????????????????????>

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From: Paul Savage <?????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Your Pipes Digest subscription request

Hello Steve,

I am a new pipe-smoker (going on 8 months) in Helsinki, Finland and 
am very pleased with my second pipe - a Hilson Oxford. However, I can't 
find anything on the Net about Hilson and the store in Moscow couldn't 
provide any brochure (surprise!).  Is Hilson at all known and could I 
get their address from someone?

[Administrativa deleted. -S.]

I really enjoy reading the newsletter.

Paul Savage

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From: ????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page


Cany anyone tell me of a source for bands for churchwardens. The ones I've
seen appear to have a band that looks like a ferrule, but I'm not sure.

Thanks for your help.

Steve Thomas 

[I'm not quite sure what you mean by a "band" for a churchwarden,
Steve. But perhaps someone here can help. -S.]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

A serious question: after being a pipe smoker for 33 years, I am
perplexed.  I want to join the ranks of the specialized tobaccos, but
my heart is with the drugstore varieties:cadillacs or Jeeps, they both
seem to get you there.  For years, I smoked Blue Boar, made by
American Tobacco Co. a rough cut of burleys, brights, and latakia.
Fortunately, I had cans of the blend, because one day, when I'm down
to two pounds, I went to the tobacconist, more notions than tobacco.
The clerk said "we don't stock that stuff anymore."  Panic set in.  I
rationed the bowls until there was no more.  I have wandered since
then.  Only recently, through the kindness of Craig Tarler, approached
that blend.  But, close is good only in quoits.  Has anyone else
experienced the joys of Blue Boar, and been successful in replication,
or must we wander aimless, gypsy smokers of anything that comes along?
I welcome your thoughts on this issue.  Bob Runowski

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

This is quite a digest you have going here.  I recently subscribed
after stumbling onto the site while searching for information on a
tobacco from Amsterdam.  I thought that I would look through all the
back issues to see if any information is already there and I would not
bother you by repeating those questions which have been asked.  Well,
I just got up to the end of 1990 and decided not to wait.  (I can't
waste my weekend in the office!)  I am searching for information about
a blend I smoked while in college.  I bought my first pipe in college
on the day I turned twenty.  I smoked that pipe, a Lugano, today and
it is still one of my favorites, with the right tobacco.  The chain of
stores in Wisconsin and Minnesota where I pruchased it is no longer
there anymore and so I have had blends mixed by my current supplier in
the Northwest going on my description in an attempt to replicate my
favorite blend.  I have come very close to it but would still like to
know if anyone has the blend on the books so I could tweak the blend
even more.  The chain was Smoker's Cove.  There were two in the
Fargo-Moorhead area, the demise of one could make the story line in
Fargo II.  My favorite blend was called Eclaire.  By the comments I
receive for my current blend, the aroma is similar and the smoking is
not unpleasant.  I have other questions, but I am not at all in a
hurry to get too much information at once.  Thank you.  Eric.

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From: John Heck <???????????????????>
Subject: Dark Rich Honeydew?

I remember some years ago smoking a Gallagers tobacco
called "Dark Rich Honeydew". It came in a dark green tin,
and I ranked it among my regular smokes for a long time.
Now, after a several year hiatus from my pipes<sigh>, due
to a since failed attempt at marriage, I can no longer
find it. Some bother about insurance fears, etc. Does
anybody know where I might order a few tins? Many thanks.
John Heck

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From: "Charles Myers" <????????????????>
Subject: fyi

Steve, I was searching Lexis-Nexis the other week and found this 
wonderful article on the anti tobacco crusade "The Soul-Corrupting 
Anti-Tobacco Crusade" by Dennis Prager,  it apparently appeared in 
The Weekly Standard,  July 20, 1998.  If you don't have access to 
Lexis Nexis I can fax you a copy.

Charles Myers

[If anyone hs a link, please send it in and it'll go out in the next
issue.  Sounds like Mr. Prager is a man in the Mark Twain model. -S.]

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: Templar from Friedman&Pease

Hi Steve and all in the group,

I am looking for an adress where I can order Friedman&Pease
Templar by mailorder or internet, or a shop in Germany or GB
which sells this tobacco. Also the adress from Friedman &
Pease would be a help for me.
Looking forward to hear from you.

With best regards


[I found it on Trever Talbert's page,
http://www61.pair.com/talbert/frps.htm: Friedman & Pease, P.O. Box
8093, Emeryville, CA 94662; 510/232-8581;
??????????????????????????? As far as I can tell with a short search,
they don't have a web site of their own; the obvious site aliases to
their ISP.  But into the Resource Guide it goes! -S.]

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From: ?????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Please check out our new meerschaum pipe site, and we are going to be
offering the lowest prices on the internet for meerschaum pipes, 25%
off all retail pprices...  the site is at http://www.aaameerschaum.com
thank you for your time and consideration!!
Jonathan Paykoc

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From: "Marcus Matzick" <??????????????>
Subject: balkan Sasieni 

	Please post this in the next pipe digest.  Recently I have been smoking
Balkan Sasieni and I greatly enjoy it. I am wondering if you or another
subscriber could give me some more info on this blend. And is it the same as
Balkan Sobranie 759?
	Thanks and hope to hear from you soon, keep up the good work.
	~~Marcus Matzick~~~

Please visit my web site

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From: ??????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hello.  I wonder if anyone can help me with a question about the size of the
white spot on Dunhills.  I have two shell briars from 1964 and 1965 which were
bought as "unsmoked."  On these pipes the white spot is slightly larger than on
my Dunhills from the 1990's and one from 1939.  Does this mean the stems are 
replacements, or were the spots enlarged in the mid-sixties?  Thanks

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From: ??????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I'm looking for information on the Jobey pipemakers.  I own a full
bent Jobey; on the underside of the shank is stamped the signature of
Jobey Stromboli and the number 230.  Does anybody know anything about
this pipe?  It has an amber colored mouthpiece and smokes
magnificently; all in all, it's a terribly comfortable pipe!


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From: ????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Dear Pipesmokers,

I have been smoking Sail Ivory for more than 25 years. All of a sudden
it has disappeared around New York. I can't get a website or phone
number for Royal Theodorus Niemeyer, BV, the maker. Does anyone know:
a) is it discountiued altogether?; b) how I can find out or get some
of my favorite tobacco? Note I can still get Sail Green and Yellow but
I prefer Ivory. Thanks for the help.

Alan Zimmerman

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From: The Minstrel in the Gallery <??????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipe Racks (Pipes Digest #261)

Robert Barron asked:

	<< How do guys store LARGE pipe collections with LARGE pipes?  
I have over 30 pipes, many oversized, and none of the pipe racks I've 
seen can accommodate either the whole number or the largest pieces.  
Does anyone have photographs of a suitable rack and contact information 
for the supplier/maker? >>

	Sometimes the least expensive way (and perhaps most rewarding) 
is to build it yourself!  That way, you can fit the design to meet your 
collections' needs and specifications.  For a primer on designing your 
own rack, look here: argyll.wisemagic.com/augustus/pipes/piperack.jpg 
(~100 KB).  The design is simple and very easily changed for your own 

Ian Augustus
President (Pro-Tempore), Loch LaSalle Gentlemen's Briar Assn.
Niagara Falls, New York 14304

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From: Steve Johnson <?????????????????>
Subject: re: PD#261

In #261, Scott asked whether anyone has replicated the recipe of the
departed (& musch-missed) Balkan Sobranie #759.  Cornell & Diehl claims
their "Engine 99" mixture is as close a replica as possible.  I tried
some at their table at CORPS in Richmond last fall and found it to be a
good substitute.  Give it a try.  Since public reaction is the best
judge, I wonder what other readers think of Engine #99.  Any other good
substitutes peope have found?

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From: ??????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hello, I'm trying to find out anything I can about the construction of
those long stemmed pipes -"chibouks" smoked in the Balkans, Turkey and
Persia.  Does anyone know whome I might get in touch with?

Thank you
Tony Tammer

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From: Benjamin Horgen <???????????????????>
Subject: Israeli pipes?

Hello Steve and all.
I enjoy reading the PD for a few months now but this is my first post.
I am 30 years old and smoke casualy for a few years now. I have a small
collection of briar and clay pipes but my prefered one (nowadays) is a full
bent Peterson.
My blend now is McBarren White Ambrosia. I indulge also a Zino Mouton Cadet
No. 1 cigar avery now and then.
Interesting to see that since a few issues, the associative activities to
pipe smoking caught a bit of importance.
It seems that pipe smoker are closer to nature and this will bring them to
the same activities:
-Hiking (or hunting for some - I do not myself but have no strong feelings
against hunters. I would rather prefer if thay ate or sold all the catch...)
I prefer fishing and it goes very well with a good bowl.
- riding bikes, and mainly old bikes apparently. I owned till not so long
ago a very nice BSA M20 500cc from 1942, with a side car.

As for the music, I myself prefer some baroque music (Purcel, Handel) or
some Jazz (Chick Corea is one of my prefered)

Alison wrote:
<Do you know of any web pages the contain information, and more
importantly, pictures, of Arguillee pipes, the pipes smoked in Israel?>

I dont know of any pipe of this name although I live here for 19 years now.
Maybe Alisson refers to Narguilee, which are similar to hookas ?
Anyway I'd be glad to hear the story behind it.

If any of your reader are from here and would like to contact, maybe we
could start some pipe smoking meetings?
(I leave in western Galilee)

Bye for now and keep up with the good job.

Benjamin    HORGEN
Ground C3I Systems
System       Engineer
Tel: +972 - 4 - 8315233
Fax:+972 - 4 - 8316974
Mobile: +972 - 53 - 741113
WWW: http://members.xoom.com/BHorgen

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From: Mick <???????????????????>
Subject: THE John Keegan?


Just noticed John Keegan's name on the list of new members
of the Digest, along with mine. Wondering if this is the
same as the famous author? If so, just wanted to relate a
little trivia, John. You mentioned the name of my
grandfather in your book, The Price of Admiralty. He was
Francis Lloyd-Owen, one of the few survivors of the first
British vessel to go down in the Battle of Jutland.

Don't know how many John Keegans there are in the world, so
if I am being overly enthusiastic, and have the wrong one,

Burnin' slow and cool,

Mick Lloyd-Owen
in Spokane, WA

[I hope we can learn whether we had the "right" John Keegan, Mick!
-S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: Pipe query

Dear Sir,

  I found your "how-to" on pipe smoking extremely helpful and I thank you 
for all that useful information. I smoked my first bowl yesterday and I have 
a question or two that I hope you can answer. I own a Peterson  System with 
a 'p-lip' and I was wondering if I should bite the mouth piece with my teeth 
or just hold it in my lips like a cigarette? I am very concerned about the 
mouth piece because it seems to change color with any contact with my saliva 
and smoke, when I first got it it was a dark brown and now its lightening up 
to a kind of yellow in certain parts. Does this imply that it is dirty? can 
the color be returned to the normal brown? or is this just an aspect of the 
pipe 'aging' ? I would really appreciate a quick reply since I'm dying to 
have a second smoke. Thank you ever so much.

            yours, Saud Sulaiman Al-Zaid

Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

[Go ahead and bite -- the P-lip is designed to take it.  Re yellowing,
see the next letter. -S.]

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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hello fellow pipe enthusiast's. Stephen, really enjoy your work with
the digest.  Thanks for doing a great job! I have a question that I
hope you or someone on the digest can help me with.  What cause's the
yellow staining on the mouth pieces? How do I resolve this? It happens
mostly on my Petersons, but have noticed it on one of my Butz. I don't
like it, and would like to know of a solution to this offensive
problem. Thanks in advance for the help.  Again, love getting the
digest. The article in P&T magazine was an enjoyable read as well!
Marco Sergi

[This yellow-staining problem is becoming a FAQ, though I've never
experienced it myself. Or if so, I'd thought it was just plain old
oxidation, removable by buffing with a mild abrasive. Do any of our
memebers have the anserw? -S.]

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From: ??????????????
Subject: I hope you might help me.  I have a beautiful Bacchus meerschaum

I hope you might help me.  I have a beautiful Bacchus meerschaum pipe I 
purchased 26 years ago, and very rarely smoked.  It has a black twisted stem. 
As well, I have a Royal Copenhagen pipe and stand.  Both of these pipes are 
collectilng dust.  Is there a place where I can offer them for sale?  How can 
I determine the value of them?  Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Arthur Bamel

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From: Tarek Manadily <???????????????????>
Subject: Barling dating

Dear pipe smokers and collectors,

I recently purchased a smoked Barling that I can't really date, though I
strongly believe it's pre-transition.  It was purchased in the USA at
least 30-40 years ago.

Here is a brief description:
- It's a natural smooth finish sort of Dublin with a a taper mouthpiece
and a wide silver band.
-  On the left hand side of the shank, you read: (first line): "Sterling
Tall" (could be "Hall" or "Ball" insetad of "Tall"), and (second line)
the "B" in a diamond shape and "By Briarcraft".  All is written in an
ornate font.
-  On the other side of the shank, there's only the number "65", which
is located close to the joint between the shank and bowl.
-  On the mouthpiece (original), there is the famous "B".
-  On the silver band, you read "Sterling" on the left hand side and
nothing on the other.

I've read a comprehensive guide on Barling dating, but unfortunately
didn't find answers.  This pipe seems to a be a rather rare one, based
on the info in the guide (or rather what is NOT mentioned).

Can any of the Barling experts help?  I would be happy to send anyone a
photo of it, if that should help.  I'd also appreciate any indication of
how much it could be worth.

Thank you all, and happy pipe smoking,

Tarek Manadily

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Good Day Everybody,

I was wondering if anybody knows about an English pipe marked "House of Lords".

Thanks in advance,


[Looks like a Sasieni second, according to Wilczak and Colwell.
Fourdots? -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

i've been smoking pipes off and on since 1994.  i've recently started
again with the intention of smoking more often.  unfortunatly, i often
don't have the opprotunity to smoke a full bowl as i'd like.  are
there small bowled pipes for short smokes?  should i pack it part-way,
or smoke a full bowl part-way?  anyhow, i'm also thinking about
getting a pipe carved.  if anyone knows who to talk to, i can supply
pictures and descriptions of what i'm looking for.

well, thanks for your time,


[I'd be more in favor of packing a full-sized pipe half way. That way,
you don't have to put up with the gamy bottom of the bowl. The
Resource Guide at http://www.pipes.org/resource_guide.html has a
"Repairs and Custom Carving" section that should help you out on the
custom pipe. -S.]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Thanks to Jesper,

who promptly informed me of the world record for smoking a pipe.  I
think he also posted it to the list, but here it is again: The WR in
pipe smoking is 3 hours 15 minutes and 36 seconds set at the 1997
Danish Championship by Jesper Bo Petersen, Denmark.  The tobacco was 3
grams of Sweet Dublin smoked in a Stanwell sandblast apple.

How are the rest of us doing?  I can only keep my "favorite" lit for
about 1/2 an hour or so.  How are my American Countrymen doing against
the Continental record holder?  What are our results?  What about the
other countries of the World?!?!

Where can I send a donation to our Olympic team?  Will the NPA
(National Pipesmoking Association) players be allowed to compete?
Will they go on strike again and leave us fans with closets full of
shirts, jackets and hats that we don't want to wear?  Will Steve sell
the franchise for the pipes web page?  Will Murdock really pay that
much for it?  How much are the television rights for the 2000 season?

Will anyone find this American Humor funny enough to respond?

Anyway, I guess I should go find something a little more productive to
do - like find my lighter (again).

Best Regards!

[While you're at it, could you find mine too? -S.]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Ok, I don't live in the US anymore, but is this true?  
I love the "Federal Standards for cigarettes" part.
Thank those lawyers, at least the 5% that make living life difficult.

Anyone else want to start our own political party?

It is bad enough I don't have a Congressman to complain to.  (Try
getting attention as a US citizen 1/2 a world away from the district
-and the politician that "represents" me.)

Regards and Smoke -em while we got -em,


Call for Fire-Safe Cigarettes

The call for fire-safe cigarettes is becoming louder in the USA. The
newspaper USA Today reported that the city of Philadelphia may sue the
tobacco industry to recover costs allegedly spent fighting fires
caused by burning cigarettes. Democrat leaders at the US congress plan
to reintroduce a campaign to develop federal standards for fire-safe

[To come after lap-safe coffee... -S.]

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From: "John Thickens" <????????????????????>
Subject: Bob Hamlin posting to ASP


	I cannot get into ASP (I'm not in a calling area of theirs)
and I understand Bob Hamlin made a lengthy posting about importing
pipes, the cost thereof, etc. Have you seen this post, and could you
by chance forward it to me.?

John Thickens

[Try www.dejanews.com. -S.]

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From: petsim <?????????????????????>
Subject: The Tobacconist - UK

Dear Steve:

     You may remember that I recently inquired about Irish twist tobacco. 
 I got several direct Email responses, one of which led to The 
Tobacconist in Exeter, England, from which I ordered some twist.

     The proprietor Mr. Martin McGahey included the following in an Email 
to me:

I do not produce a general price list as prices here change at least 3 
times a year! But I am more than happy to answer any requests for a quote 
for any item in my Index. The Index used to be quoted in www.pipes org 
but was out of date. We removed it to save confusion with updates, 
therefore the most current version can be found only on my site. Do you 
know how I can get a link to my Index site , inform all the Digest 
subscribers that I can supply any of the items there in and ensure my 
e.mail address is shown!!

245 High Street, Exeter, Devon,
tel 01392 496111 or fax 01392 496113.

     Because he mentions having been listed on your page in the past, I'm 
hoping to get this to you directly so it won't default into inclusion in 
the Digest.  Incidentally, his Email address is Martin McGahey, 

Peter Sims

[I'm sure Steve Beaty will pick this up and put in the link; if not,
please contact him at ????????????????  I'll put the address in the
Resource Guide. -S.]

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From: petsim <?????????????????????>
Subject: Twist Tobacco

Hello, fellow pipers:

     Wanted to express my gratitude to Leonard Fox for writing so 
intriguingly about Twist tobacco and to Paul Carder for pointing me to 
Martin McGahey at The Tobacconist in Exeter, England, from which I was 
able to purchase some.  As Mr. Fox stated, it's quite strong.  I would 
add pungent and tasty ("What a mouthful!").

     As to The Tobacconist, I think I saw several tobaccos listed that 
have been referred to in PD as hard to find.  I didn't keep notes; it 
might be worth a looksee.  Tobacco seems to be a bit pricey in the UK, 
but Mr. McGahey deducted the VAT which closed the gap somewhat (exchange 
rate to be added).  Postage evens out with an order of more than one item.

     I received the tobacco in less than a week.  Overall, not a bad deal 
for the rare, "treat" tobacco.

Peter Sims

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From: David Guinn <????????????????????>
Subject: Oiling a pipe

If I was to oil finish and unfinished pipe what oil would I use?
David B. Guinn
Key Account Manager
(919) 303-4144 USA

[Tungburn oil? :-) Sorry, I have no real suggestions. -S.]

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From: John Heck <???????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Design

Forgive me if this subject has been beaten around in the past. I
have noticed many times that certain of my pipes, and not always 
the "better" ones, are better smokers than others. They are easier
to light, generate more smoke with each puff, stay lit longer, and
leave less moisture in the dottle. This seems to be the result of
a general improvement of the airflow through the bowl and stem. I
pack the same way with every pipe, just by way of habit, and light
the same way each time too. I am forced to assume that the effect
I'm seeing is due to the size and shape of the bowl, and the caliber
of the airway in the shank and stem. Has anyone given any study to
this matter, assuming that it must have been noticed by others as
Thank you,
John Heck

[It's been debated through the aeons, but still a mystery. -S.]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Excuse me if I am crossing some boundry but I am looking to the
membership to help me with a problem.  My father died some time ago
and I am now helping my mom clean out his warehouse.  Although he did
not smoke he did sell some smoking materials.  Included in the
warehouse are display cards with pipes and lighters.  I was hoping
someone in the membership might be able to direct me to folks who
might be interested in the pipes.  My father retired from his
wholesaling career 20 years ago but I remember the pipes being around
back in high school, so they would be closer to 30-35 years old now.
The cards hold 12 pipes each...are genuine Missouri pipes and are made
by Buescher...the cards read "New Sunday Cobs."  Appreciate anyone
that can help me and my mom find a good home for these pipes.  Thank
you....ray wiedmeyer (??????????????????)

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From: ????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Excollector has approx. 30 Caminetto, 30 Stanley, 15 Savanelli (same
signature), 20 JHW, 30 Connoisseur, 15 Charatan, 20 Ben Wade, 5
Escada, 10 Barkley, 10 Meersham, 5 Sasuni, 5 Dunhill + 100+ free hand
Danish, English Italian & Int'l.  50% unsmoked, To sell IN BULK.

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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page


I have about 15 cans of Lane's Medal Of Honor tobacco (8 oz) that are
at least 5 years old and never opened.  I no longer smoke this blend
so would like to sell them to someone who can enjoy them.  I would
like to sell them as a single unit rather than one tin at a time.  I
will sell to the highest bidder and pay the shipping and insurance
myself.  Minimum bid is $25 per tin



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From: bin <????????????????>
Subject: posting from pipes page

---------- posting ----------
Would welcome information where I could obtain Dunhill 965, Early Morning
Pipe, and Nightcap in five (5) pound bulk quantities.  Would also like
to know where I might obtain same Balkan Sobranie (white) or 759.  Thanks.
---------- address ----------

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From: Peter Melchior <????????????????>
Subject: My Pipes Page

Hi Steve,

Finally I've put my "Peter's Pipe Page" on the server at:


It's about some of my pipes, and the tobacco's I prefer.
Also some personal opinions, and off course, a link to the Digest!



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From: ????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I've made this request before - is anyone out there familiar with a
pipemaker from Boise, ID, called House of Robertson? I was in his shop
once, as a child back in the 1970s - and this guy made THE HUGEST
pipes I've ever seen. Many of them had handgrips carved right through
the bowl. I understand the shop has closed down, but I'mwondering if
anyone, anyone out there has any HoR pipes they'd be willing to sell
or trade? Thanks for your help.

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From: "Clive Humm" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Advertisement

>From Clive Humm
e-mail ??????????????????????

Dear Steve,

I don't know if the following announcement is permissible on PD - please
don't publish it if it contravenes the rules.

Dear Pipefriend,

I have just added new pipes to my website - and have totally redesigned the
site to make it easier to use.

The pipes are now shown as individual "click-to-enlarge" thumbnails and
have been photographed on a background marked in one-inch squares, to make
it easy for you to judge their size.  

Happy pipesmoking!


Click on this link to view my website.

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From: "Andrew Baker" <??????????????>
Subject: address change, etc.

Thank you for the pipes digest, I have enjoyed every issue.
[Administrativa deleted. -S.]

Also, I feel compelled to sing the glory of Cornell and Diehl's da Vinci =
blend. I ordered it when I found out that the celebrated Bengal Slices =
would no longer be available (I still hope that that is a nasty rumor); =
I knew that I would have to find a replacement before my reserves ran =
out. I lit up a pipe from the freshly opened tin and tried to go on with =
my studies, but I could no longer concentrate, 'this tobacco is too =
good,' was my first thought. It required my full attention. I was =
astonished to find that the smoke itself was even beautiful, a bright =
blue! Thank you Cornell and Diehl!

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From: "FF Piber" <??????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999

>>From: ????????????????????????? (Joe)
>>Subject: comment from pipes page
>>I am trying to find out any information on the MGB pipe.
>>Can you help me out??
>>                                          Joe

We have had some in our shop but that is at least a decade ago. They were
made in Italy and basically cheap basket pipes. No more info, sorry.

Best regards, FF Pipes

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From: Ian Augustus <??????????????>
Subject: Briars-L Mailing List


	With the cooperation of the Loch LaSalle Gentlemen's Briar 
Association of Niagara Falls, NY (information forthcoming), I've just 
started a list up for the discussion of pipes, tobacco, and Celtic 
culture (and I use that term quite loosely!), called Briars-L.  I think 
that there will be a pretty wide range of topics presented.  Those 
interested can view the list rules and description at:


There is a form located there for folk interested to subscribe.  I hope 
I'm not too late for #262!

			Ian Augustus
			Pres., Loch LaSalle Gentlemen's Briar Assn.

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From: Gary Shuster <??????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe pix

Hi Steve,

Thanks for your offer to post my query; this morning I concocted a web page
with the pipe pictures on it.

You can access it at


Let's hope somebody can help. Thanks again,


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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: big lies


Big lies about tobacco 

By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist, 05/10/99 

newspaper ad, full-page. Stark background. Large type. ''Cigarettes
kill more Americans every year than car wrecks, plane crashes, AIDS,
alcohol, drugs, suicides, and homicides combined.''

It's a terrifying statistic.

Good thing it's not true.

Of all the falsehoods hammered home in the war on tobacco, none is
more pervasive than the one about the body count: 400,000 deaths from
smoking per year. Over and over we have been told that smoking is not
just unhealthy but massively and catastrophically lethal.

Elizabeth Whelan, president of the American Council on Health and
Science: ''If every single day two filled-to-capacity jumbo jets
crashed - killing all on board - the death toll would not approach
that accounted for each year by cigarette smoking.''

Bill Novelli, founder of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids: ''If you
want to draw a hierarchy of harms or social problems, you'd probably
end up putting tobacco on top.... Tobacco is like an atomic bomb on
the horizon.''

William Foege, former director of the Centers for Disease Control:
''It is quite predictable that in the coming years, the annual global
death toll of tobacco will equal the total death toll of the Holocaust
in Nazi Germany.''

Ghastly as such rhetoric is, worse is on the way. The $246 billion
tobacco settlement will be used, in part, to fund even more
antismoking propaganda.  From print ads, from billboards, from radio
and TV, the message will be pounded at you: Tobacco, the worst of all
killers, slaughters 400,000 Americans every year.

Except that it doesn't.

''To be blunt,'' write Robert Levy and Rosalind Marimont, ''there is
no credible evidence that 400,000 deaths per year - or any number
remotely close to 400,000 - are caused by tobacco.... The damage from
cigarettes is far less than it is made out to be.''

Levy is an expert in law and finance who teaches statistics at
Georgetown University Law Center. Marimont is a mathematician and
scientist who spent 37 years at the National Institute of Standards
and Technology and the National Institutes of Health. If you read
nothing else about smoking this year, read their article ''Lies,
Damned Lies, & 400,000 Smoking-Related Deaths'' in the new issue of
Regulation, a quarterly journal published by the Cato Institute

What Levy and Marimont call ''the granddaddy of all tobacco lies''
comes from a 1993 report of the Centers for Disease Control which
estimated that 419,000 Americans had died in 1990 of diseases
attributable to smoking. A disease was attributed to smoking if the
risk of dying from it was greater for smokers than for nonsmokers. But
here's the rub - one of several rubs, actually: the CDC included in
its death toll diseases for which the relative risk to smokers was
statistically insignificant.

It is reasonable to claim that a smoker's lung cancer death was
smoking-related, inasmuch as a smoker is 23 times more likely to die
of that disease than a nonsmoker. But it is not reasonable to make the
same claim for cancer of the pancreas, since the relative risk of that
disease for smokers is minuscule - between 1.1 and 1.8 (i.e., a smoker
isn't even twice as likely as a nonsmoker to contract pancreatic
cancer.) The National Cancer Institute, in guidelines quoted by Levy
and Marimont, cautions against relying on relative risks of less than
2. ''Such increases may be due to chance, statistical bias, or effects
of confounding factors not evident.''

Apply that rule to the CDC's 419,000 tobacco-related deaths, and 39
percent of them - 164,000 - disappear. A smoker who dies from
pancreatic cancer (or a dozen other diseases on the CDC list with
relative risks of less than 2), is not a victim of tobacco. To call
him one is to engage in sophistry, not science.

Another statistical trick built into the smoking body count is the
failure to correct for other variables. Tobacco use is not the only
difference between Americans who smoke and Americans who don't. Levy
and Marimont note that smokers tend to be people who also drink too
much, exercise too little, eat fewer green vegetables, and have less
money. ''Each of those factors can be a `cause' of death from a
so-called smoking-related disease,'' they write, ''and each must be
statistically controlled for if the impact of a single factor, like
smoking, is to be reliably determined.''

Controlling for just two of those differences - income and alcohol
consumption - reduces the tobacco toll by another 53,000. Take the
other factors into account and it would go lower still. But the CDC
and the surgeon general treat those factors as irrelevant. ''If a
smoker who is obese; has a family history of high cholesterol,
diabetes, and heart problems; and never exercises dies of a heart
attack, the government attributes his death to smoking alone.'' By
that logic, one could just as easily show that 504,000 Americans die
yearly from failure to exercise or that 649,000 die from bad
nutrition. Like the supposed 400,000 smoking-related victims, say Levy
and Marimont, these are ''computer-generated phantom deaths, not real

There's more. For all the talk of protecting children, the average age
of death from a smoking-related illness is 72. Measured by years of
life lost, smoking is a much smaller problem than alcohol
consumption. The number of young people killed by smoking is -
zero. All this and more Levy and Marimont calmly explain. Their lucid
article provides a fine corrective to the ever more hysterical tone of
the antitobacco crusade. You may wish to lay in a copy.

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From: "Scott M. Nye" <????????????????????>
Subject: I can't light it

I recently purchased a Dr. Gradow pipe.  I really haven't ever smoked a
pipe, but I love the smell of one burning.  I have looked at your how to
page, but I can't seem to get it lit.  I don't know what I'm doing
wrong.  Do you fill the pipe up with tobacco, or just put it half way?
How hard do you have to puff?  I really want to smoke my pipe, but I'm
getting frustrated because I can't light it.  Please help!


[Hmmmm... just pack it until it feels springy, not loose or tight. You
should be able to puff easily. Then light a match and move it above
the bowl in circles while puffing.  Keep at it; persistence pays! -S.]

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From: Gourgen Oganessyan <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Viscount pipes

Hi everybody,
A couple of people asked me about Dr. Grabow's Viscount pipes that I
mentioned in my last months' posting, so I thought I'd write this for
Viscounts seem to be the upper end of Dr. Grabow's pipes, they are not
very cheap -- in Australia they cost the equivalent of US$ 28. They are
the only Dr Grabow's available at the tobacconists here, and I didn't see
them in the US during my visit there a couple of months ago, at least
Eckerd and Wallmart didn't have any.
 The wood seems to be of much better quality than you usually see in Dr.
Grabows, with a lot of grain. The finish is also nice (at least for me,
because I like red pipes) and looks virtually identical to Peterson's
Killarney, if you know what I'm talking about. The ones I have seen here
were billiards and bulldogs, both straight and bent. Mine was a straight
billiard with a short "lovatt" style stem, which I removed and fitted with
a much longer Dr. Grabow stem (no problem there since all their stems have
identical diameters). I still think it's a decent pipe (even after months
of enjoying my Peterson Killarney and Barling meerschaum), and if I knew
how much they go for in the US I would recommend them for beginning
smokers. If it's realy around $25-28 then I suppose you'd be better off
going for, say, a Kaywoodie, but since the choice in Australia is rather
limited these are pipes to go for.
If someone had any experience with these pipes please let me know.

My pipesmoking progress -- really enjoying the Peterson. Also, in
confirmation of the fact that you can get a good pipe for a good price, I
picked up a second of an unidentified herritage about a month ago, a huge
straight apple, wallnut finish. It has quite a few faults, but smokes
 On the tobacco front, no more Borkum Riff for me! I bought some MacBarren
Mixture and also a Dutch-made tobacco called Irish Mead (terrific, only
sligtly aromatic, medium strength). But in Aistralia one has to deal with
a 100% sales tax on tobacco products (!!!) so I really had to find some
way out -- especially given the fact that my PhD scholarship runs out in
August with the end of my thesis nowehre in sight. As a result, I bought
two of those huge plastic bags (12 oz, I think) of drugstore cavendishes
in the US, a "Tobacco Place" vanilla and a "Top Value" whiskey and
smuggled them in (you can't bring that much tobacco intro Australia
duty-free). I really enjoy them, definitely much better that Borkum Riff,
especially the whiskey is very nice, only a touch of aroma and very mild.

See you all next time!
 Smoke in peace,


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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

It's great to be getting more and more choices of hadmade pipes in the
States. SAFFERLING pipes from Stuttgart, Germany are now available in
the U.S. . These are of corsican briar and handcut stems and they're
great smokers.  The email address is ??????????????????????

I've also been impressed with the pipes of Rainier Barbi who is from
Germany as well. I wonder how many other excellent pipemakers remain
undiscovered in the U.S.? Even some of our N. American carvers seem to
be well kept secrets.  Does anyone have any others that they can
recommend for one-of-a-kind pipes?

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Smoking Cabinets

Hi Fellow Briar-Guys
First let me introduce myself
I'm Dave Livesey from over here in Sunny England(????). I am fast
approaching the big 40 and been a "PIPER" for 17 years.I have a modest
collection of briars and Meerchaums, but recently I have been
concentrating on 19th Cent. pipes (Estates of course, I have yet to
perfect time travel(( Shame really)) ).
The reason for the posting is to encourage the die hard smokers among
you to take a look around for any antique smoking cabinets that may be
found at the odd dealer who specialise in late 19th century furniture. I
recently acquired two such cabinets and immediately fell in love with
them. They show off my briars superbly and add class to any room they
are on show. Admittedly they are a wee bit pricey, but OH LORD do they
look good.If you can convince your better half that they are a beautiful
addition to any home then you will be able to justify the price paid.
Just one thing. Please do not cross the pond to buy them in the North of
If anybody would like to drop me a line on the above subject ( maybe
even to sell me a couple of items at a rock bottom price (PLEASE!!!)
feel free to drop me a line at
Thanks for the digest Steve. A little literary eden
May your smoke rings fly true
Dave L

[Literary eden?!?  To quote Mark Twain, anyone attempting to find a
plot in it will be shot. :-) -S. ]

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From: P G Luca Mana <????????????????????????????>
Subject: Brandy, Digest form

Dear Friends,

I am a new pipesmoker (I have succeeded for two months in smoking down a
filled cup altogether, ie without needing to relight it...). Just a couple
of questions:

1. I have not understood quite well the brandy-in-the-pipe story.

2. Is it possible to receive the postings not in digest form? (Well, if it
is not possible, that's ok as well...)

By the way, besides the Jethro Tull, have you pipesmokers &
complexmusiclisteners ever listened to something by Emerson, Lake &
Palmer, the Rush, the old (= P. Gabriel's) Genesis, King Crimson...? Which
are your favourite when smoking? - Well, we could make some tobacco-group
associations, too! 

Ciao a tutti!

[I see a few "brandy" references from back issues. Some folks like to
drink brandy while smoking their pipes, and there are also some
references to pipes shaped like brandy glasses.  And the Digest is
what it is, though there is of course alt.smokers.pipes and the Yahoo
pipe-related chat rooms. 

As far as music goes, I personally enjoy bits and pieces of all those
folks, some to a greater degree than others -- but what about the 80s
and 90s?  Are there any good pipeish popular songs being written
today?  There are a few good blues artists like Kenny Wayne Shepherd
who are good with a bowl, especially while doing something with the
hands. -S.]

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Quote of the Week:

  "Motorola, Inc. decided to scrap a policy that would have prohibited
   employees at its cellular phone plant in Libertyville, Illinois,
   from smoking in their vehicles on company property.  [...] The firm
   bowed to public pressure following press reports about the
   policy. The _Chicago Tribune_ reported that Motorola granted that
   'security guards might have more important things to do than play
   smoking police.'"

				_Disgruntled: The Darker Side of the
				World of Work_, by Daniel S. Levine.

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999
  2. Subject: Montreal area
  3. Subject: Pipe Club and Show Info
  4. Subject: Amsterdam
  5. Subject: trip from memphis to santa fe
  6. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999
  7. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999
  8. Subject: Hunting and pipes
  9. Subject: Re: Hunting and pipes
  10. Subject: Altered tobacco plants able to clean up explosives
  11. Subject: Tobacco Dating Article on web page
  12. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999
  13. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999
  14. Subject: fatherhood
  15. Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999
  16. Subject: Falcon tobaccos
  17. Subject: Pipe problem
  18. Subject: calabash
  19. Subject: E-commerce
  20. Subject: posting from pipes page
  21. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #261 -- April 4, 1999
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