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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: Pipes Digest #263 -- July 11, 1999

		  Pipes Digest #263 -- July 11, 1999
   Copyright (C) 1999 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 3782

Welcome to new members:

	Sergio Mauri
	Michael Mueller
	Marty Meuschke
	George Best
	Wm. Kelly Crow
	Tom Slater
	Susan J. Updike
	John L. Bandeloope
	Claude Drolet
	Mr. Visidhi Thammanubarn
	Joseph M. Crable
	Roger Upton
	William M. Wilson
	David M Rodriguez
	Dr. Al Karetsky
	E. Bear Guidry
	Dale James Neff
	Larry Farren
	Dahn-Ola Olsson
	Jason Makos
	Dacquerie Gardner
	Richard Schultze
	John F. Bliss
	Dan M. Manning
	Roger Tucker
	Jesse Raver
	Mike Snyder
	Michael Parker
	Dave Beedle
	Ian Stewart Pacey
	Duane Dargis
	Grant Smyrlakis
	Chip Rose.
	Tim Sanstead
	Andreas Vlach
	Christian Lee
	Steve Maple
	Jon Buchbinder
	Craig P. Murtha
	Paul Rowlandson
	Darius Sciuka
	Nick Svolos
	Daniel J Martaus
	Tim Simcox
	Robert Lotek
	John E. Wheaton II
	Tim Chambers
	Serge Pirotte
	Donald C. Steigerwald
	William P. Van Patten
	Enrico Viselli
	Frank Jonasen
	Hsiung, Bingyuang
	Richard Williamson
	Bert Olton
	Robert W Norton
	Jim Green
	Will Mccutcheon
	Kevin Saunders
	Gary Edward Link
	Ralph Kaplan
	Chuck Price
	Robin Roberts
	Paolo Pugni
	Marcelo Caussade Troemel
	Agide Morigi
	Peter J. Velasco
	Thomas B. Bahder
	James Ardoin
	Victor Remez
	Dr. Ben F. Irvin
	Alex Jaffe
	Jeffrey W. Johnston
	David Perrott
	Peter Handler
	Kearney S. Loughlin
	William E. Crawford
	Arthur G. Ruppelt
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	Barry Vaughn Helm
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	Steve Thomas
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From: Spiros Prepis <?????????????????>
Subject: Founding of the Greek Pipe Club

Dear Steve and fellow members 
This is an announcement for the foundation of the first Greek Pipe Club.
The Club will be based in Athens - but welcomes members from all over the
Amongst other activities field trips to local factories of pipes and briar
harvesters will be organized as well as tobacco evenings and smoking
Anyone wishing to contact us please use
e-mail ????????????????? (Mr Spiros Prepis)

Soon the Club will have its website .

Best Greetings to all and happy smoking

Spiros Prepis

[Excellent, Spiros! I've put the listing in the Resource Guide. Please
keep us informed. -S.]

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From: ?????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Subject : Montreal area pipe club

Yes, there is a pipe club in Que'bec : "Club des fumeurs de pipes du
Que'bec".  But it seems not very active.  The web site is :
http://argon.mlink.net/~lfournie/cfpq.html Like Darryl (Re: PD 262), I
would like to meet other peoples to simply chat about pipes smoking in
a convivial atmosphere.

Happy puffing !


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From: "William H. Magill" <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999

>   From: "Tardy, Darryl" <?????????????????????>
>   Subject: Montreal area
>   I hope this is the right way to post a question to the digest! ( if not,
>   would you please advise?). 
>   My question: is there anyone in the pipesmoking community who knows of a
>   pipe club in the area of Montreal, Quebec. (If not, what about Ottawa ?)
>   Seems like there's a lot of activity south of the border, but we don't
>   often hear much about activity in the Eastern part of Canada ! Maybe
>   it's time to start one ??

I haven't been in Montreal for many years now, but there used to be a very
well known pipe maker there. I believe in the shadow of the Queen Elizabeth
Hotel downtown. I think the name was Jensen... but it's been about 20 years.

William H. Magill                          Senior Systems Administrator
Information Services and Computing (ISC)   University of Pennsylvania
Internet: ????????????????????             ??????????????
          ????????????????                 http://pobox.upenn.edu/~magill/

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From: Bill Unger <??????????????????>
Subject: Report to Digest

    Steve, I remain a faithful reader although you haven't heard from me
in a while.  Glad to see the readership continuing to inccrease, and I
wanted to give everyone a report from the North American Society of Pipe
    NASPC has reached 584 members, and our second of 5 newsletters this
year just went out.  It is our biggest yet at a full professionally
printed 24 pages.  We continue to encourage new members, of course.
Dues remain at $12 a year (if a new member wants all 5 newsletter
issues) or pro-rated at $1 per month for the remaining months in the
year.  I can send a sample to anyone who wants to check it out before
joining, but I have to charge $2 for it in order not to go broke.  Our
address is NASPC, PO Box 9642, Columbus OH 43209-9642.  If you haven't
done so yet, be sure to check out our web site at www.naspc.org.
    Now the show news.  Our show on Aug. 28 in Columbus is sold out at
93 tables, with a waiting list started.  We don't do cigars and we
discourage display-only tables, so this is 93 tables of pipes and pipe
accessories, all for sale or trade.  We have a great mix of  pipe
distributors, pipe makers, tobacco blenders/distributors, and just plain
folks who will have an incredible array of estate pipes.  Of course, our
$1 per ticket raffle will again take place, and we have a great spread
of merchandise and pipes promised for it.  Anyone who can make it should
do so.  We promise a great time.  Check out hotel info, etc. on the web

[Sounds like the club and show are getting truly massive, Bill! -S.]

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Just sending out an invite to you Canadian pipe smokers out there to
join our chat/discussion group.


We are looking to have weekly chats as well as ongoing discussions of
good pipe shops either online or physical, tobacco, pipes in general
as well as just having a good time!

Thanks for your time, hope to see you there.

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From: Vicens Lozano <?????????????????>
Subject: New Virtual Pipe Club

Dear Steve:
News from Spain:
The new Virtual Pipa Club for spanish people:

The new magazine" Novedades de la Pipa y el Tabaco ":

Thanks and welcome , Vicens Lozano, president of Barcelona Pipa Club

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From: Sergio Iannini <??????????????????????>
Subject: New Internet address for SAPC

    Dear Steve,
    We are re-creating the South America Pipe Clube home page. It will
be available in few days at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/7986/

    Please advise our brothers about this change.
    Thanks & Best Regards,
    Sergio Iannini

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From: Steve Masticola (??????????????????)
Subject: BMWMOA rally (off-topic)

Hi, all,

I'm going to be tenting at the BMWMOA rally in Rhinebeck, NY in a
couple of days. Unfortunately, the notice is probably too short to set
any kind of group get-together up by email, even if I knew that anyone
else from the Digest was going.

So I'll leave it loose, like I've been trying to leave the whole
vacation. If any other Digest members want to get together to drink
some beer and repel some mosquitoes, please leave a note on whatever
place notes are left.  I'll do the same.

Smoke in peace,
~\U Steve.

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From: Dan Wheeler-The American Legion <???????????????????>
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999

STeve:  Regarding the "PipeKing" and the listing in Hacker's book:  they 
are no longer in business.  I checked them out the last time I was in DC. 
 Some helpful tobacconists suggested that someone might have one they are 
not using, or some tobacco shop might still have one in stock.  If so, I am 
interested in purchasing it.  By the way, one man told me that Georgetown 
Tobacco ran one in their shop for months to season and color a meerschaum 
pipe.  Did a decent job, but what the PipeKing excelled at was pipe 

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: The Pipeking & Other News

In the last Pipes Digest, Dan Wheeler inquired about the Pipeking,  mentioned 
in Rick Hacker's "The Ultimate Pipe Book".  It is my understanding that the 
Pipeking is dead.  A number of years ago, I contacted Mr. Hacker regarding 
this very item.  He told me that he believes that the Pipeking's creator, 
Santo Bellinghieri, is no longer above the sod.  Mr. Bellinghieri tried to 
market the product for a long time, but he was not successful as he hoped.

(Incidentally, Rick sold me the very Pipeking that was pictured in his book.  
It is, as he describes, "noisy" but effective.  I have no intention in 
selling it my unit.)

In other news, readers may be interested to know that Andrew Marks is 
interested in offering pipemaking classes--similar to the ones offered by Al 
Baier.  Andrew has been a pipemaker for 30 years who inspired Al to take up 
pipemaking in earnest.  Al discovered Andrew's work at a Boston-area craft 
show, many years ago, and over the years, purchased a dozen of his pipes.  Al 
avers, "Andrew's pipes smoke as well as any others that I own."  Andrew also 
introduced Elliott Nachwalter to pipemaking in the early 1970's

Andrew lives in Cornwall, Vermont, not far from Middlebury College, where he 
studied art, in the 1960's.  He works in a two-story pipe studio, near his 
home, that overlooks the mountains.  He does not make as many pipes these 
days (a dozen or two, per annum), as he did in the early years.  

He avoids the pipe show scene today, in part because he finds the zealousness 
of "certain collectors who rush through the doors, looking for pipes with a 
certain number stamped on them," off-putting.  

He is an accomplished oil painter, sculptor, author (he wrote a small tome on 
Robert Frost, a few years ago) and fellow fly fisherman.  I had the 
opportunity to visit him last fall, and we have talked a number of times 
since then.  He is a most interesting, sensitive, and talented fellow.  
Interested persons may contact him directly about pipemaking classes.  

James Lawson
Contributing columnist, Smokeshop magazine

[Al Baier has had quite a few mentions in the PD; all positive. -S.]

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From: "Jesper Klith" <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999

>From: ??????????????????
>Subject: posting from pipes page
The WR in
>pipe smoking is 3 hours 15 minutes and 36 seconds set at the 1997
>Danish Championship by Jesper Bo Petersen, Denmark.  The tobacco was 3
>grams of Sweet Dublin smoked in a Stanwell sandblast apple.

There's a pic of the champ on www.n-t.dk  Also a pic of the model (smooth
version) here www.wwi.dk/priv/st27.htm

Regards, Jesper

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From: "Jesper Klith" <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999

>From: ??????????????????
>Subject: posting from pipes page
The WR in
>pipe smoking is 3 hours 15 minutes and 36 seconds set at the 1997
>Danish Championship by Jesper Bo Petersen, Denmark.  The tobacco was 3
>grams of Sweet Dublin smoked in a Stanwell sandblast apple.

There's a pic of the champ on www.n-t.dk  Also a pic of the model (smooth
version) here www.wwi.dk/priv/st27.htm

Regards, Jesper

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From: "William H. Magill" <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999

[Message from Peter Melchior in PD #262 about rough-feeling stems
deleted. -S.] 

>   [It sounds more like sand or dirt, Peter. Buffing should help. -S.]

"Buffing yes, sand or dirt, no. 
I think you will find that it is a function of the material used to
manufacture the stem, your mouth acidity, and the sharpness of your teeth. 

The "bit," obviously, is rough where one clamps it with the teeth. However,
I believe what you are describing is is a very different "rough" feeling.

I have a couple of pipe which have highly polished stems, and the portion
where the bit is in the mouth gets clearly "rough" and your lips tend to
"stick" to it... but only if they have been sitting around and "dried out."

This effect "only" occurs with pipes one is NOT smoking regularly. 
It is not unlike the first encounter with a clay pipe - until you get the
stem moistened-up; it's like sucking on a piece of clay (funny thing about

If I grab an old pipe from the rack, I just automatically "burnish" it on
my shirt sleve or pant leg. Flannel shirts, dungarees, cords all provide
just enough "rough fabric" to smoothe things out again.

William H. Magill                          Senior Systems Administrator
Information Services and Computing (ISC)   University of Pennsylvania
Internet: ????????????????????             ??????????????
          ????????????????                 http://pobox.upenn.edu/~magill/

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From: Peter Melchior <????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipe problem

Hi Steve and Members of the Digest,

In digest #262 you kindly posted the following message for me:

[Message from PD #262 deleted. -S.]

First I like to thank all of you who advised me by e-mail.

I kind of researched the problem, and came up with the following answers
regarding the cause of the problem:

Vulcanite is a vulcanised rubber. Due to UV radiation it developes
sulphur-oxide at the outside. This makes it turn dull, greyish-green. It
also is the cause of the uncomfortable feeling and taste. It has nothing
to do with smoking, it will happen to any vulcanite exposed to direct
sunlight, and so UV radiation. This was told me by a number of
PD-members, and also an old friend of mine, a none smoker, but somebody
who is very knowlegable in chemistry.

I received a message which stated that, besides the cause mentioned, it
also could be a certain enzyme in saliva, causing the sulphur-oxide to
develop. (At a much more slower rate)

I like to propose two digest-wide experiments. 

1) Can we all take one pipe, a regular smoked one, and from now on keep
this pipe away from daylight, (exept while smoked ;-) ) to see what's
going to happen to this pipe.
Does it develop sulphur-oxide? If so, how long does it take?

2) Can we all take one pipe, one not smoked anymore, partly cover the
stem with a piece op tape, 
(not transparent), and expose it to direct sunlight for say a month or

It is obvious that it have to be pipes with a vulcanite stem.....

I like to see what comes out of your experiments.

The conclusions:

Effected pipes are easily treated. I myself bought a buffing wheel,
others take some kind of (car)polish, even toothpaste will work. (It may
take some effort however) All this in respect to the severeness of
Talking about buffing wheels, if you to decide to buy and use one, be
carefull. It can pull a stem from your hands, smashing it in a corner of
the room you're in. Hold the stem firm, and don't apply to much
pressure. The polishing compound will do its work.

To prevent the development of this sulphur-oxide:

Keep your pipes from direct sunlight. I like them, properly lined up in
piperacks. But, it doesn't do them any good. I like to look at my pipes,
but even more to have a good smoke from them. So, they are confined to a
drawer for the moment. 
I am thinking of making or buying some kind of cupboard/cabinet, were I
can put my pipes and piperacks, away from direct sunlight.

This is my opinion on the sulphur-oxide problem; the cause, and the
I hope that it will help people suffering the same problem.

Peacefull puffing from the Netherlands ~/U (A brandnew Peterson's System
308! Love it)


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From: "MARK BUTTERWORTH" <????????????????>
Subject: Bulk Dunhill

Question from ?????????????????? re: bulk Dunhill blends...both 965 and =
EMP are available from Dunhill's New York store. Phone 1800 541 0738. =
They run $15 per half pound, and the folks there are terrific to deal =
with (especially the fellow with the Deutsch accent).

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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: (none)

I repair and refurbish pipes and carve pipes.  

I appreciate you adding my page to your Commercial Links.

I would also appreciate being added to your resource guide
Comeaux's Pipeworks
771 Novarese Road
Memphis, TN 38122
e-mail: ????????????????????? 
web page:  http://members.xoom.com/pipesman/index.html

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hello all fellow pipesmokers out there!
   This posting is directed toward Mick Lloyd-Owen.  I saw your inquiry
   regarding the John Keegan, The author...I regret to inform you that I
   am not that author.  I have read some of his books and find his subject
   matter very interesting, to say the least.  I am sorry to burst your
   bubble, but there are many John Keegans out there. I don't know how many
   of them are pipesmokers, but I am 32 years old and have been smoking
   a pipe now for 17 years and I love it.  Hope this clears up the
   question.  Just for laughs, how many John Keegans out there smoke a 

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From: Ian Augustus <??????????????>
Subject: Re: Unwanted Stem Oxidization (PD#262)

Hi Steve:

<< [This yellow-staining problem is becoming a FAQ, though I've never
experienced it myself. Or if so, I'd thought it was just plain old
oxidation, removable by buffing with a mild abrasive. Do any of our
memebers have the anserw? -S.] >>

This seems to happen primarily with Vulcanite stems, and there really 
doesn't seem to be much one can do to prevent it (not even a coat of 
wax!).  Usually a bit of alcohol and a pipe cleaner will remove the 
oxidation temporarily, but it will come back as soon as saliva comes in 
contact with the bit.

			Ian Augustus

|                    Niagara Falls, N.Y.                       |
|  Ian Augustus                    www.travel.to/loch_lasalle  |
|  President Pro-Tempore, 1999           ????????????????????  |
|      Listowner and Moderator, BRIARS-L Discussion List       |

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From: chris b (Address deleted at poster's request)
Subject: Reply to digest 262

I'm not sure this is how to reply to a posting, so I'll quote it, and
give my reply.  BTW, please don't publish my email address.  Thanks.

     From: ??????????????????
     Subject: posting from pipes page

     Ok, I don't live in the US anymore, but is this true?
     I love the "Federal Standards for cigarettes" part.
     Thank those lawyers, at least the 5% that make living life

     Anyone else want to start our own political party?

     It is bad enough I don't have a Congressman to complain to.
     getting attention as a US citizen 1/2 a world away from the
     -and the politician that "represents" me.)

     Regards and Smoke -em while we got -em,

For this, and for other reasons, members of pipes.org should be very
interested in lp.org.  They are very big on freedom from this sort of

[I believe lp.org is the Libertarian Party, isn't it? -S.]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: inquiry

am looking for a source for galvins irish pipe tobacco.  i ordered it several 
years ago from wally frank but is no longer available.  can you  find it for 
me.  it is a great sweet but not harsh tobacco and need to find out if it is 
still being produced.  thanks. duane.

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: wobbly legs

Hi Steve
First of all, thank you for the replacement copy of the latest digest.
Your nomination for the Nobel prize for Literature is in the post :-)
I would like to relay an incident to the rest of the guys That I am sure
that they have experienced themselves, but maybe not for some time.
I have come across a "Twist" type of Tobacco that maybe you have in the
States but I understand is fairly new to us "Limeys" :-).I was
interested to try this and parted with a not insubstantial amount for
same.After cutting the required amount and rolling to my liking I
sparked up.After a few minutes I experienced a feeling that I have not
felt since I smoked my first bowlful some 17 years ago. Deary me!! I can
only describe the feeling as one of being suddenly supplied with rubber
knees. My head began to spin and I found it necessary to have a stroll
in the garden to clear my head.For some unknown reason I began to hum to
myself "Lucy in the sky with Diamonds" by the Beetles. The perpetrator
of this phenomena was "Irish Black XXX". Has anybody else tried this
stuff?? I persevered with it and now find it absolutely superb, but you
may find that it can clear a room full of people in .05 of a second.If
you like your Tobak Strong and "English"(?), then give it a burn, but
remember you have been warned.
Incidentally, If any of you "American Fly boys" were stationed over here
in England at the Burtonwood airfield in Warrington, I would like to
hear from you as I would like to get some idea what life on the base was
like in the fields heyday. Believe me you would not recognize the place
Thanks for the space Steve.Still the best read since All quite on the
Western Front with just as much smoke
Live long and prosper people
Dave Livesey

[Sorry, I checked my mail and the Nobel Prize hadn't come.  Maybe it's
time to contact the Post Office. In the event that it's been lost,
I'll settle for the Pulitzer. ;-) -S.]

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From: "Gordo" <???????????????????>
Subject: NH/VT Pipe Smokers

First Posting, although I've been a member for a while.
I'm looking to organize a regular smoking group in the Lebanon =
NH/Woodstock VT  Upper Valley area
Anyone interested in meeting either regularly or irregularly can E-Mail =
me here at my store the Village Tobacconist in Lebanon.
I have regular cigar smokers in-store where we bring in a cigar and =
sample it, and we can do the same with pipes and tobacco. I carry a good =
part of the Cornell & Diehl Tobacco. and the ASHTON rep dropped by last =
week with 2 cases of  really great looking pipes. Elliot Nachwalter is =
also an associate of mine, he might be interested in being a guest =
tobacconist...Let me know if anyone's interested.
Gordon Tanner
the Village Tobacconist
Miracle Mile Plaza
Lebanon, NH 03766

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From: Lynn & Frank Frederickson <???????????????????????> (by way of Steve
Beaty <????????????????????>)
Subject: old metal pipe

I am in Ontario Canada. My friend just found an old molded metal pipe in
the ground behind a house they just moved in to. The pipe has designs that
look like maple leafs and berries and scrolls. It is totally some sort of
metal, maybe copper. Is there anywhere you might know off where I could get
information. Thanks for yout time.

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From: Gustavo Gonzalez <????????????> 
     (by way of Steve Beaty <????????????????????>)

Dear Steve, 

First I'd like to compliment you on your work, you seem very talented.
Great Webpage!!

I am contacting you because I am hoping that you may be able to help
me.  I am trying to put together a directory of all the retail
tobacco/novelty/h-shops stores around the nation.  To make it
accesible for smokers around the U.S. to easily attain such
information when they are away from their area.  If you could please
suuggest anything that may put me in the right direction as far as
sources or search tools and/or if you would be able to provide me with
some listings it would be greatly appreciated.  I have spent countless
hours on the net and have been able to gather a small listing so far,
so any help is needed and thanked for.  Thanks alot for your time and
understanding. Once again, great job on the web pages.  Hope to hear
from you soon.


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From: ??????????????????
Subject: comment from pipes page

I used to have the address of the BBB pipe manufacturer in England. The
other day a friend asked me for that address. I turned the house 
upside-down but without luck. I've used several search engines on the WWW
and just finished a key-word search of your archieved digests. Still no luck.

Would you please just send me a short message with BBB's mailing address,
if you have it available? This friend has what appears to be an antique
made by BBB and wants to learn more about his pipe.

Thanks for any trouble you may go to.  Also, I found your site on one of my
searches. Instead of looking for BBB's address I ended up reading pipe mail
and following your pretty terrific links. At about $5 per hour connection time
here, that's high praise, indeed <g>.

Take care; I'll be back to your site.

Fred Startz
(Now living in) Jakarta Indonesia

[Sorry; I don't have the address for BBB.  Do any of our members? -S.]

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From: ???????????? (Joseph Crews)
Subject: comment from pipes page

I have started smoking a pipe recently. After 15 or more years of cigarettes
I like you page and find it very informative.
But I need help in finding something.
I am looking for a pouch to carry my tobacco in, but I also want a
for my Pipe, Tool, and lighter.
Please let me know where I might be able to find this product.
Joseph Crews

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From: ??????????????? (Bob Grosz)
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hi Steve,

I'm sure you've heard it a zillion times, but here it is again.  I
sure do enjoy your publication and have met some might fine folks
during my perusal of the "Digest".

I have a number of old Kaywoodie pipes and enjoy smoking them even
though they don't enjoy the prestige of other pipes.  On several of
these "Woodies" the stem seems to overscrew, leaving the stem sort of
cocksided to the shank.  What can I do to align the stem to the shank
on these old pipes.

Any advice from you or your readership will sure be appreciated.

Bob Grosz - Finksburg, MD.

[Million and one :-) Thanks!  I'd suggest maybe putting a thin
cardboard or brass washer on the stem as a shim. -S.]

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From: "David M Rodriguez" <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Storing tobacco/ Keeping it properly humidified

Hello.  I store all my tobacco (loose) in zip-loc bags which I place in
air-tight (plastic) containers.  This helps keep them in good smoking
condition for quite awhile.  My only problem is w/ overly dry tobacco I
buy.  How can I humidify these tobaccos utilizing the containers I have?
Or are there humidifying devices sold in the market ?  Your advice is
greatly appreciated.

Thxs- Dave

This communication is for informational purposes only.  It is not intended as
an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument
or as an official confirmation of any transaction, unless specifically agreed
otherwise. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as
to completeness or accuracy and is subject to change without notice. Any
comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of
J.P. Morgan & Co. Incorporated, its subsidiaries and affiliates.

[I'll tell you, but only if you tell me the next ten companies
Microsoft is going to acquire. :-) Seriously, depending on the
quantity, you can re-humidify them with a small spray of water from a
spray bottle. Only use a clean, new bottle, though; not something
that's had window cleaner in it!  Go slow on the spraying.
Unfortunately, in my own experience, it's never quite the same after
it's been allowed to dry out. -S.]

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From: "Randy" <????????????>
Subject: help if you can

I am a fairly new pipe smoker (smoking about a month now). I bought a pipe,
a few ounces of different tobaccos at a cigar store (Marzipan and Black #1),
and have read up a lot about pipe smoking on the net.

Everything was going fine and I was starting to really enjoy smoking a pipe,
and then, something happened. That last 3 times I have packed and smoked my
pipe, the smoke has tasted horrible! It tastes like I am smoking the ashes
from an ashtray.

I have been storing the tobacco in zip-lock bags, and then storing those
inside a plastic container. Could it be that the tobacco has dried out too
much (it has lost a lot of it's smell when I open the bags) or did something
happen to my pipe? Do I need some pipe sweetener or something?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[See above. The tobacco should feel slightly springy if it's properly
humidified. -S. ]

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From: Stephen Jeffcoat <????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Bob Hamlin Posting


It seems Bob has posted it on his pipeguy.com website and plans to
update it from time to time.  It says the next update will be in June.
Check out the following link:


-Stephen Jeffcoat

[Message by John Thickens in PD #262 deleted. -S.]

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From: "Schwartz, Michael W." <???????????????????>
Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999

Responding to Alan Zimmerman's question about Sail Ivory:  I have found it
at Smoke Scene, 54th St. and Seventh Ave.  But no doubt it is for some
reason less sidely available than the Green and the Yellow.

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From: ????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

man, am i bummed out ! I can't find a pipe tobacco that does'nt leave
an after stench in your nostrils, face and whiskers. does anyone know
of any ?

Budd Willis
Bunnell, Fl.

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Falcons

Greetings Oh Great and all knowing Moderator
I have noticed over the last few (alright maybe not the last few) issue
of P.D that a number of the guys(and possibly Gals)have been on the
lookout for Falcon pipes. It so happens I have in my possession FOUR
such pipes with 4 replacement bowls. 2 have the traditional straight
metal shanks (?) and one has a curved shank also i have what MIGHT be an
original wooden straight shank Falcon. If anybody is interested I am
prepared to exchange all these pipes for a decent antique briar (19th
century if poss.).Any shape will be considered as long as it is in good
smoking condition.All the Falcons are in very good condition as they are
rarely smoked, I do not give them the attention they probably deserve. I
am sure that one of you guys can give them a loving and caring home. I
fear that a metal shank on a pipe may be a little "High Tech." for me.If
anybody is interested then drop me a line at ???????????????? and we can
chew it over.
Incidentally I am writing this message whilst sucking on a beautiful
straight grain 1896 briar made by Masterson, Cambridge, one of a pair I
picked up for a song at a little antique shop in Scarborough, England.My
guilt at paying such a token price for them diminishes after every puff.

Power to the Briar Boys (and you precious Gals!!!)
Dave Livesey
PS If anybody has any information about Masterson, England I would be
eternally Grateful

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From: ???????????????
Subject: (no subject)

not sure if this is appropriate, but I have two Kirsten pipes one unsmoked 
new in the box (regent, ex large bowl with rustic finish and black anodized 
body) and one that has been smoked but still in great shape,( designer, ex 
large bowl of meerschaum, with the stand up black anodized body) they are 
nice pipes but I just never got overly excited about them.
I'm looking for someone that would like to either buy both or trade for a 
nice briar ,(a Peterson, sherlock holmes style perhaps if any readers out 
there are interested you can contact me at ???????????????

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From: "Clive Humm" <??????????????????????>
Subject: The UK National Pipesmoking Championship

>From Clive Humm
e-mail ??????????????????????

The UK National Pipesmoking championship will take place on Sunday 27 July
at the Old Silhillians Club, Solihull, West Midlands.

Late entry may still be possible - but even if you don't want to compete
(and if you happen to be in England on the day) come along - you will have
a memorable day out in the company of like-minded pipesmokers.

In addition to the chance to win valuable prizes in the competition, you
will be able to browse a number of trade stands.  Pipemakers represented
will include Dunhill, Ashton, Millville, Invicta, Don Carlos, Moretti,
Refbjerg, Cavicchi and Il Ceppo, and there will be other retailers and
importers there as well.

[later... -S.]

Sorry - I forgot to mention that the Organiser of the event is Martin
McGahey.  For further details, please contact him at:

Martin asked me to post the previous message because he's really busy right
now, trying to organise all the last minute details and run his excellent
pipe-shop (tobacco export a speciality).  He deserves that last bit - he is
a tower of strength within the UK pipesmoking community.

Happy pipesmoking!


Click on this link to view my website.

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: AMBASSADOR PIPE CO'S WEB PAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dear Pipes Digest members:

                                  I have a new web page up and have a
special offer on a reprinted WDC Pipe catalog! This Catalog is on sale
for $9.00 (regular price of $14.00) I hope you take advantage of this
offer! And make checks payable to " Matt Chipman". I also Handle Pipe
repairs and have prices listed on the web page!  And I do Rean clean &
Polish For you pipe shop owners, at prices even lower than on the
page! I also hope you can come back to my page to make purchases
through Anazon Books, Barnes & Noble, And CD NOW! Lastly I am looking
for Estate Pipes to sell on consighnment! Please click below to view
my web page or write URL down.  Happy Smoking To All!
                                            Matt Chipman
                                         Ambassador Pipe Co.
                                          P.O. Box 6612
                                        Denver, CO 80206
click here to view page http://members.aol.com/amdorpipe/collect5/index.htm

[Sorry, Matt, I've had to delete the other three advertising
submissions you sent.  The Digest only accepts one advertisement from
any given business each six months. Any exceptions published in the
past are probably errors on my part. -S.]

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From: "Clive Humm" <??????????????????????>
Subject: site update - Don Carlos, Cavicchi - and the missing Morettis

>From Clive Humm
e-mail ??????????????????????

Dear Pipefriend,

I have just added  many more pipes to my site.  There are new Don Carlos
pipes in all grades and a new page devoted to Cavicchi pipes, which are
well worth a look.  I have also inserted the two missing pictures of top
level Moretti pipes.

I very much regret that I am not permitted to ship Don Carlos or Cavicchi
pipes to the USA.  I'm truly sorry about that - my next update will include
pipes that I can ship anywhere!

I'm pleased to say that my Moretti update was enthusiastically received -
these pipes are moving fast.  But there is still a good selection available
- and these pipes are available to pipesmokers in the USA.

Happy pipesmoking!


Click on this link to view my website.

[Again, sorry, Clive, but I've kept only the last ad. -S.]

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From: "Dr. Ben Irvin" <????????????????>
Subject: New Member

I have just joined the pipes.org. I am looking to buy, for an elderly =
friend, Three Castles Pipe tobacco. It seems that this British Company =
has decided not to export to the USA because it is afraid of liability =
lawsuits. Does anyone know where old tins of this can be purchased? What =
other brand named tobacco is most like "Three Castles"? I live in =
Montana and am a Crow Indian. For many years, I have made "pipe tools" =
out of local Flathead Cherry wood. I learned to do this from an elderly =
Chippewa friend thirty years ago. Recently, when accompanying my son to =
art shows to demonstrat his art, I brought along a few of my Cherry Wood =
pipe tools (to have something to do at art shows). To my great surprize, =
they sell like hotcakes. If anyone is interested in the Pipe tools, =
contact me. I will sell them at cost and will make no profit ($3.50 to =
cover postage, handling, and my bandaides).
                    Dr. Ben F. Irvin
                    O.P. Box 734
                    Pablo, MT 59855

[Try Dan Pipe, hhttp://www.danpipe.com, for the Three Castles. -S.]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Shops in England

Greetings Steve
Another line to let you know that we are still alive and well over here
in the UK. Come on the rest of you Brit Briar Burners put more of your "
Two Cents Worth" in to the works. I know you're over here.I would like
to sing the praises of two tobacconists in which I have spent many a
happy hour. The first one is
Arthur Morris
71 Bradshawgate
Tel. 01204 521340
As soon as you walk through the door you are transported to Edwardian
times with a vast array of pipes and tobaccos,cigars,snuff and other
acoutrements. The staff are brilliant and are always willing to chew the
fat and put even the newbies on the right road.I cannot reccomend them
high enough.
The other establishment is
Tobacco world
78 Northgate street
Tel 10244 348821
This is a modern fitted shop but again with a wonderful variety of
pipes, tobacco and cigars on show. Again the staff are very friendly and
knowlegable.I imagine that a number of our American brothers may have
visited the shop because during our tourist season there are quite a few
of them taking advantage ot the services available.
If any of you guys have paid a visit to the above places drop a line to
the digest and let me know what you think.
I hope Steve that you can include them in the resourse guide because
they deserve it.
Thanks for the space Buddy.Keep up the good work
Dont let the anti's wear you down!!!!!

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From: ????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Steve: I sent a posting just a few minutes ago, but my email program
crashed, and I don't know if it was sent; so I'll repeat it.  A
question to the group on pipe stamping/nomenclature: I recently
acquired an older Radice Clear tall billiard. Stamped on the shank,
directly under the word Clear, are the letters OP, enclosed in a
circle.  If anyone knows the significance of this, I would appreciate
hearing from them.

Lance Sang,M.D.


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From: ????????????????????? (Lennie Weinrib)
Subject: Posting For The Pipe Digest

Dear Steve, and fellow members of the coterie,

     Got my new lenses,and now can post, without breaking the all caps
rule! I wanted to share my happiness with all of you! Last year I began
conversations with Chuck Stanion,of "Pipes And Tobaccos Magazine",
regarding doing an interview with them! Lo and behold, time passes quickly!
We did the interview and photos here in Chile,during the year.The new
Summer 99 issue, has me proudly smoking my pipe, here in my study, talking
to Chuck, and the world! I was very proud to do it,and even more proud to
share this good news with all of you,my cyber pipe smoking buddies! Hope
you get a chance to peruse it! Let me know what you think!
     Change of subject! People often say you can't go home again! Thomas
Wolfe seemed to say it to many in "Look Homeward Angel"! With a pipe I feel
you can go home again,whenever you like! I recently tested my theory! I
found some old lightly smoked Danish Prides and Estellas, in a box,on a
dusty old unused shelf. That set me thinking,about how much I had enjoyed
these pipes in the late 50's and early 60's, around the time I graduated
UCLA! I tried to remember what tobak I had smoked in those olden times! It
was "Mixture 79,Amphora,and Capt. Black"! I was proud to be a drug store
cowboy in those days,and I still dip into the old tobak on nostalgic days.
If I can find it anywhere! Here in Chile,we have a very poor pouch
selection,but the above three still are available in the little tiny
tobacco shop I frequent on occasion! Armed with old new/old pipes, and
tobacco, I set about recreating the UCLA days mind set! I don't have my
50's crew cut anymore, I wear it longer now,and it magically got a little
greyer at age 64,but I can't complain,at least there is a lot of it! My
wifes good cooking has also enlarged my waist size,to slightly less than
Jackie Gleason    proportions!!! But I am young in heart and mind! I
wondered about the slight sophistication I had achieved, in the
interim,smoking many fine high falutin pipes and custom tobacco blends!
What would that do to the experience! I picked a lovely cool day,perfect
for smoking on my terrace, overlooking my birds of paradise blooms,and the
lazy ferns silkily weaving in the wind! I filled several of my old brand
favorites with matching pouch tobaks and started the test! Each puff was a
delicious revelation! The pipes were still terrific smokers,and the
tobacco,was still a joy,and on it's own level,as excellent as it ever was!
This experience made me want to recommend the same to you! Do what I
did,and you will happily find,that with old friends, in the world of pipes
and tobaccos.....you not only can go home again,but can also enjoy the
trip, with great enthusiasm! My three pipe tale had ended,but the pleasure
lingered on for days,and I even imagined I could hear the faint sounds of
John Wooden extolling his great UCLA basketball teams of old! What magic
nostalgia my afternoon had produced! Try it....you will enjoy it! Until
next time,I am off to my terrace here in Chile,to enjoy something old,and
something new! Please join me in spirit! Adios Amigos!
Lennie Weinrib and family!    Santiago, Chile.

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From: Kevin <???????????????>
Subject: Pipe Questions

I searched the web and yellow pages for Barmes New Traditions and El
Paso Onyx brand pipes.  I found nothing.  My mother asked me to find
addresses and phone numbers for these places.  Any ideas where I shall


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From: ??????????????????????????
Subject: Pipe Question

Greetings Steve !

     I visit the "pipes.org" site often - thank you for creating and
maintaining it !!  I have a quick question...Do you know of, or could
you post any information on the markings that Caminetto uses to date
stamp their pipes!!??(The cross section with numbers in each of the 4
quadrants) I am trying to find out about a recent purchase I made. I
assume one set of numbers is the date, one is the finish, etc. But I
would like to know which.!??  If you have any information on this it
would be greatly appreciated.

Best regards,

Brian McNulty

[Do any Caminetto buffs out there know the answer to this marking
question?  (BTW, Steve Beaty maintains the page; all I do is run the
mailing list.) -S.]

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From: Craig & Patty Tarler <???????????>
Subject: Web Page Address Update -- C&D


C&D now has a domain name and we've changed our web address. The old
address will point to the new one.

New address is www.cornellanddiehl.com

Hope you're finding more time to ride your bike now that the weather is


Craig & Patty

<HREF = Http://www.hci.net/~cnd> "Cornell & Diehl" tobaccos
Last update: June 6, 1999
Syrian Latakia is here! Eight new blends: 6 premium bulk and 2 new tins!

[Yep; see above. And our best wishes for your good health! -S. ]

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Dear Steve,

I am interested in finding out how many members you have from New
Zealand.  We seem to be a rare breed in this part of the world and I
would like to get in touch with any other pipe smokers here.  I am 39
and have been a pipe smoker on and off since I was 20.  Resources for
pipe smokers are fairly limited and I have found the internet
invaluable.  I can be contacted at the following email address:

Chris Mills

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From: "Al Steenson" <????????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999

howcdo I post a request here for a certain type of pipe.I'm looking for a
GBD cognac.The shape has been discontinued and I'd like to find one

[Just like you did, Al! -S.]

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From: "Tardy, Darryl" <?????????????????????>
Subject: question

Good day.
Forgive the silly-sounding question but I have to know...what exactly
does buying an "estate pipe" mean ? If it's used, is it normally sold
reconditioned, or with a new stem? Or does that destroy collector value
? I don't know anybody who has one personally, hence the question out of
left field.

Thank you


[You know, I don't know the answer to that! Which would be the better:
to leave a damaged stem on a pipe or to replace it? -S.]

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I fell in love recently with a gigantic pipe made by pipemaker JM
Brunell. Anyone know where he is (was) and how to contact him?  Also,
does anyone know who carries Boswell pipes on the web?


Robert Barron
Toronto, ON

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From: ??????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Greetings.  I wish to sell a custom made oak pipe cabinet.  I paid the
craftman (a former neighbor) $500.00 for the piece, about ten years
ago, and am selling it for the same, plus $25.00 for shipping (unless
you are in the Denver area.) Please relpy to ???????????????  I wish
all of you a good summer season, DK

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Quote of the Week:

  "In time even this supply was exhausted, and there followed a period
   of depression that amounted almost to mourning.  But the desire to
   smoke was so strong that before long experiments were begun to find
   a substitute. McLeod started it all by removing the sennegrass
   insulation from his boots, then filling his pipe with it. 'The
   smell,' wrote James, 'is like that of a prairie fire rather than of
   tobacco.' [...]

  "Blackwell thought up a scheme for imparting the proper flavor to
   it. He borrowed as many pipes as he could, and boiled them together
   with some sennegrass in the hoosh pot. Theoretically, after the
   grass dried out, it should have obtained something of a tobaccolike
   flavor -- but 'the result obtained,' James noted, 'was no adequate
   reward for the trouble of preparation.'

  "'Lichen has also been tried,' James continued, 'and we live in fear
   that someone will start on seaweed.'" 

			Alfred Lansing
			_Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage_

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #263 -- July 11, 1999
  2. Subject: Founding of the Greek Pipe Club
  3. Subject: posting from pipes page
  4. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999
  5. Subject: Report to Digest
  6. Subject: posting from pipes page
  7. Subject: New Virtual Pipe Club
  8. Subject: New Internet address for SAPC
  9. Subject: BMWMOA rally (off-topic)
  10. Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999
  11. Subject: The Pipeking & Other News
  12. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999
  13. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999
  14. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999
  15. Subject: Re: Pipe problem
  16. Subject: Bulk Dunhill
  17. Subject: (none)
  18. Subject: posting from pipes page
  19. Subject: Re: Unwanted Stem Oxidization (PD#262)
  20. Subject: Reply to digest 262
  21. Subject: inquiry
  22. Subject: wobbly legs
  23. Subject: NH/VT Pipe Smokers
  24. Subject: old metal pipe
  25. Subject: comment from pipes page
  26. Subject: comment from pipes page
  27. Subject: posting from pipes page
  28. Subject: Re: Storing tobacco/ Keeping it properly humidified
  29. Subject: help if you can
  30. Subject: Re: Bob Hamlin Posting
  31. Subject: RE: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999
  32. Subject: posting from pipes page
  33. Subject: Falcons
  34. Subject: (no subject)
  35. Subject: The UK National Pipesmoking Championship
  36. Subject: AMBASSADOR PIPE CO'S WEB PAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  37. Subject: site update - Don Carlos, Cavicchi - and the missing Morettis
  38. Subject: New Member
  39. Subject: Shops in England
  40. Subject: posting from pipes page
  41. Subject: Posting For The Pipe Digest
  42. Subject: Pipe Questions
  43. Subject: Pipe Question
  44. Subject: Web Page Address Update -- C&D
  45. Subject: posting from pipes page
  46. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #262 -- May 17, 1999
  47. Subject: question
  48. Subject: posting from pipes page
  49. Subject: posting from pipes page
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