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Subject: Pipes Digest #268 -- February 27, 2000

		Pipes Digest #268 -- February 27, 2000
   Copyright (C) 2000 by Stephen P. Masticola. All rights reserved.
	       Commercial use of any part of contents,
	      including email addresses, is prohibited.

		     Circulation this issue: 3854

Welcome to new members:

	Paul Olson
	Eric Feight
	Sjaak Van Popering
	Gary Young
	Mark Ward Donaldson
	Kornel Lengyel
	Jerry G. Mcfarland
	William Van Orden
	Andrew J. Schwartz
	Terry Davey
	Joseph B Pierce
	Timothy Shields
	Linwood Hines
	Israel Nephi Toskin
	Tom Abbruzzese
	Matt Chipman
	Gerald Morris
	Wm. M. Mcwilliams
	John G. Tietjen
	Drew Eaton
	Steven H. Young
	Mike Garr
	David Malecki
	Thomas B. Anderson
	William Taylor
	Jeff Skinner
	Mike Garr
	Glynn Thurston
	Joel Evans
	Joseph G. Alexander
	John B. Hayes
	R J Maxfield
	Robert Kiernan
	Wesley Womack
	Paul Von Wedel
	Israel Nephi Toskin
	Terry Fraser
	Ryan Villiard
	Paul Campbell
	John S. Nigrelli
	James David Beebe, Jr.
	Jack V. Wilson
	Jim Nicholson
	Paolo Cellocco
	Robert W. Rannells
	Roy Gdog Gdog
	Paul C. Zolig
	Philip M. Hayes
	Timothy Kyle Ross
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	Dan Holdredge
	Graham Harris
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	Todd Saidleman
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	Ken Lamb
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	Bryan J. Ramson Sr.
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	Dr. Ben F. Irvin
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	William Todd Flippo
	Daniel Dunbar
	Greg Wilkinson
	Michael Harold Nunn
	Steve Gore

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	    Help Stop Prohibition  --  Keep Tobacco Legal

		      Call  --  Write  --  Vote

			Then, smoke in peace.

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #267 -- December 30, 1999

Hi Steve, I printed out your latest issue and look forward to reading it on 
my way down to Sarasota Florida for a little winter R & R.  I can't tell you 
how much I enjoy the web site pipe.org and how much I appreciate your efforts 
in doing this.  I and many others of us at Jack's Tobacco in Brookfield, WI 
wish you and anyone close to you a very Happy 2000.  I think all of the pipe 
clubs accross America ought to make it a club project to call, write or 
otherwise contact the people who control our future use ot tobacco.  Take 
care.  Bob Schrap 

[An excellent idea, Bob! And it ought to be fairly easy to set up such
a hotline, too. -S.]

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From: "Michael Lindner" <?????????????????>
Subject: BPTT guidelines, etc.

Steve -

I don't know that you've been following recent thread on ASP, but the 
BPTT is back and stronger than ever!  Three groups have formed (or 
re-formed as the case may be) with some familiar faces and some not-so.  
In any case, I am writing new guidelines for BPTT members and am looking 
for a non-commercial place to post the document.  It is currently in MS 
Word format, and is about two or three pages.  Would pipes.org be 
willing to host it?  I would also be happy to write an "Intro to the 
BPTT" for those looking for further information.

One problem we had last go around was many members in the BPTT 2 group 
(of which I was the unofficial leader) had no idea what 
alt.smokers.pipes was, did not know where to find the reviews once 
posted to ASP, and had never even heard of newsgroups.  All the current 
members are ASP readers, so this isn't as big a concern as before.  
Still, I would like to develop some sort of a relationship so that the 
reviews can all be posted on pipes.org so those who haven't a clue can 
still find them and read them.  Ideas?

Finally, I cannot find the link to the tobaccos listed at the London 
Dunhill store.  Was it removed?  Why?  I have copies of the literature 
from the London store and could possibly scan it in for you, or type in 
the more "English" blends (with tasting notes, if applicable) for you to 
post.  Let me know if this is of interest to you.

Kind regards,

Michael Lindner

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: Pipe show in Newark

Hello Steve:
Can you please tell me, or lead me to where I can research, where and when 
the pipe show is to be in Newark, NJ?
Thank you,
Bruce Helft

[From a posting to alt.smokers.pipes by Bill Feuerbach of S.M. Frank:
"The next show is Saturday, March 11th, 10:00- 7:00pm at the same
place, Newark Ramada Inn, as previous shows." Enjoy! -S.]

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From: "Dick Alexander" <???????????????????????????>
Subject: 10 % Discount to members of any organized pipe club

Steve, Tobacco Plus (host to Northeast Arkansas Pipe Puffers Club)
extends a 10% discount on all pipes, pipe tobacco, and accessories to
all members of any organized pipe club.  Check out our web page,
e-mail, phone, or write for further information.  Dick

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hey Steve! 

Just wanted to drop a line out to those in the Midlands area of South
Carolina who may be interested in joining a new pipe club. We are
still in the early stages, and are putting together somewhat of a
membership drive through our local tobacconist, Paul Brock of the
Tobacco Merchant. If any one is interested in joining, or offering any
advise on operating a club, feel free to contact me. I want to thank
Skylar Rupp of the South Florida Briar Brotherhood, whom I recently
met in Columbia, for all the help he offered in the few minutes I had
to speak with him.

Dave Adams
131 Bradley Dr
West Columbia, SC 29170

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From: ?????????????????? (Heinz Gunia)
Subject: kein Betreff

Hi Steve,
a happy new year to you and all members of pipes digest!

I got a nice christmas present from my parents-in-law. It is a
wonderful briar, a straight with great bowl. Yes, occasionally they
doing good deeds.  It is ostensible an American brand with the stamp
"Redwood", it is a 9mm! and it is a hand made.  Does anybody know this
brand and where is the place of production? Maybe some members have
made expieriences with this brand before.  I didn't break it in until
now but I think this briar will be one of my prefered ones.  Thank you
for your answers yet!


Heinz Gunia
Essen, Germany

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From: Daniel DiGriz <??????????????????????>
Subject: Pipe-smoking in Korea

For those in South Korea, since people have been asking via private email,
may I recommend the Pipe Shop in the Hamilton Shopping Center in Itaewon.
It's quite expensive, but the GBD's and tapered pipe cleaners are
reasonably priced: 40,000w and 6,000w respectively. In Incheon there are
little import-grocers with Captain Black (27,000w cans) on the red brick
area of Pupy'ong and many such in Dong-Inch'on (29,000w cans and 5,000w
pouches). The Hamilton shop is far more expensive on these and other
tobaccos. Shinsaegae Department Stores also carry over-priced pipes and
accessories and BBB tin tobacco (10,000w). Seoul Station no longer has
pipes and tobacco. 

And Dong-Dae-Moon only has poorly-made pipes with problems like off-center
bores to which Grabows (once broken-in) are far superior. These are
available also at Dong-Incheon and elsewhere and are typically stamped
"Toscana", have a poor finish, and are meant to seem Italian, though one
suspects they are made in the Phillipines or elsewhere.

Don't order pipes and tobacco in excess of $100 value via the mail because
they'll be held until one pays an import duty which is quite excessive. The
protectionist laws (And it's not like Korea makes or produces pipes and
pipe tobacco) are quite arcane.

Grabows at the import-grocers are typically double the cost they would be
in the U.S. Occasionally one finds a French or English pipe accidentally at
some counter, and these may or may not have been smoked once or twice and
sold as new. Those are typically about 30,000 won (perhaps $25 US depending
on exchange rates).

The Hamilton shop has no place to sit down and I think smoking inside is
only "winked at" rather than allowed or encouraged. Space is small in Korea
so one cannot expect a relaxing, fully-enclosed pipe shop of the
traditional variety.

Korean traditional pipes are the one-draw metal-bowl variety and are
typically ornamental, though occasionally someone puts a cigarette straight
up in the bowl.

Pipe cleaners are a virtual rarity. Brandy is cheap. Olive oil in different
grades is moderately to highly priced.

-- Daniel DiGriz
  =====================favorite aphorisms======================
 | 	  Always be the first to follow your own advice.       |
 | 	  What can be misunderstood will be misunderstood.     |
 | 	  Discretion is the better part of valour.             |
 | 	  Never argue with anyone who wouldn't know if he'd lost.
 | 	  What cannot be forced must be finessed.              |
 |	  My wife is my human credential.
 | 	                Explore Esoteric Laboratory            |
 | 	            http://members.xoom.com/orthopraxy         |

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From: Doug Friedman <???????????????????>
Subject: Re: Royal Cigar Store


Thanks for sending me your response to my note to Steve/Pipe Digest.
Its too bad my experience had to be a lose-lose situation.  Yes, up
until this experience with the broken Dunhill shank, the owner of
Royal Cigar also treated me with the utmost courtesy and care.  I too
was surprised with the response I recieved.  None the less, I have a
reciept from the owner that states "repair stem" not "repair cracked
shank".  Too bad it had to go this way.

Doug Friedman

[Quoted letter from David L. Martin deleted. -S.]

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From: "David L. Martin" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Royal Cigar Store


I thought you would like to see my note back to Steve/Pipe Digest before it
hits the next issue. Hope things go more smoothly for you in 2000.

Kind regards,
David Martin
A Fellow Pipe Smoker In Atlanta

I just read (12-31-99) the letter in December's Pipe Digest from Doug Friedman
??????????????????? regarding Royal Cigar Store in Atlanta. I was extremely
sorry to hear that he felt he had a bad experience. Personally, I have had
nothing but fine experiences with this store AND with the owner, a lovely
lady. We have a pipe club, which meets there on a monthly basis, thanks to
the kindness and generosity of its owner. I feel that I speak for all of
the store's (and fellow pipe smokers that I'm friends with) customers when
I say this must be one of the finest tobacco shops in the country, run as
fairly as a shop could possibly run, with the intent to please as many
customers as possible.

Personally, I'll certainly continue using Royal Cigar Store. I consider
myself somewhat difficult to satisify and I find that Royal has, and will
continue to meet and exceed my needs. Let me also say that we are fortunate
in Atlanta to have other fine shops, who care for and continue to please
its customers. Thanks to shops like these, I've personally enjoyed pipe
smoking for over 25 years.

Thanks so much,
David Martin
Atlanta, GA

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From: Daniel DiGriz <??????????????????????>
Subject: Arbitrate the Bastards!

One gentleman wrote in reference to a faulty repair job, "My question is  -
have you run across anything like this before, and what course of action
would you take if this happened to you."

Disclaimer: Nothing here is to be construed as legal advice; it is only a
testimonial of one person's experience:

Arbitration. It's a lovely thing. Most medium-sized or larger cities have
an arbitration board. It keeps people from overloading small claims court,
for one thing, and its cheaper. You file a complaint with them and request
arbitration. For a small fee - maybe $5 to $15 - they have a deputized
person - (I think a county sherrif may do it) deliver  notification to the
company in question that arbitration is being requested. The paperwork asks
their side of the story and if they will agree to arbitration. If the
company doesn't respond or will not go to arbitration, then a case may be
very strong in small claims court since the defendant refused attempts at
arbitration, and that under the auspices of the City! This may give one the
moral high ground, and (also) judges with full dockets don't look too
kindly on small businesses who refuse out-of-court arbitration first. 

If they do respond and do agree to a meeting, both parties agree to be
heard by the arbiter - someone specially trained by the city to be
impartial (theoretically) - and both sides agree in writing that the
judgement of the arbiter is final and binding. If one side doesn't keep the
judgement of the arbiter, then a court case may practically made in favor
of the other. By the way, small claims court may take $50 or more just to
file, so it might not be worth the money, which one may not get back (so I
hear) from the defendant even if one wins, and one might be required to pay
court costs on losing. 

Arbitration is at least a good bluff and since the City sends them an
official letter via a deputized official, most businesses are usually ready
to make the appropriate refund, replacement, or whatever the moment they
receive it - perhaps realizing they might be publicly exposed - to a public
that presumes the consumer is right both in and out of court. I've used
arbitration and never had to have a meeting. The company refused to take
back a used lawn mower they sold me for commercial purposes even though it
was burning a ton of oil, but when I filed for arbitration they immediately
agreed to refund $100 out of the $112. I lost maybe $10 in filing and $12
in original cost plus some oil and more importantly some down time (it was
my business), but then I wouldn't have had much "arbitration-face" if I'd
refused their offer, and besides it was close enough to fair for me since I
had made profited by as much as I lost on the lawns that I cut. I used the
money to buy another mower.

If it were me, I'd mention in my account of the problem that they should
cheerfully offer a pipe of one's choice of equal original value from their
stock and two ounces of your favorite bulk blend for your trouble, and
mention the new dollar value of one's pipe. 

There is also the Better Business Bureau which will similarly send forms to
you for your complaint, then send copies to the business requesting its
response, then decide whether and what to file in its local records. I
would go for arbitration first, unless the business was discourteous, which
is beneath contempt. None of this would make one a popular customer at the
place (until they change ownership, which doubtless they will if they are
being badly managed), but then how good will one feel about shopping there,
let along reclining there having a smoke, or exhanging the tobacco-banter
that is so much a part of the joy of a pipe shop, if one lets them get the
better of one of their customers.

Just my thoughts. An account of how I would act. Not advice.

-- Daniel DiGriz
Tucked away in South Korea, at the moment delighting in a Peterson-Shamrock
packed with Captain Black.

  =====================favorite aphorisms======================
 | 	  Always be the first to follow your own advice.       |
 | 	  What can be misunderstood will be misunderstood.     |
 | 	  Discretion is the better part of valour.             |
 | 	  Never argue with anyone who wouldn't know if he'd lost.
 | 	  What cannot be forced must be finessed.              |
 |	  My wife is my human credential.
 | 	                Explore Esoteric Laboratory            |
 | 	            http://members.xoom.com/orthopraxy         |

[This is a very interesting idea, Daniel! Certainly worth filing away
for future reference. And on a more upbeat note... -S.]

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From: "Dave Brown" <???????????????>

Dear Steve,
        Thanks a heck of a lot for an excellent pipe resource. Just 
reading the Q&A is an education unto itself. I hope you have a great new 
year and many happy bowls.

                                                       Dave Brown

[And to you and all the other Digest members, Dave! -S.]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: perfect humidor for under $2.00

Dear friends:

I agree with Brad but upgraded slightly. Walmart carries colored plastic jars 
in small, medium, large and extra-large sizes that have a rubber seal and a 
locking metal fastener for about two dollars more. I then bought a pouch 
moistener (the small metal disks with the stone that you soak in water, about 
$1.00 at your local tobacco store).  I then held this in place with the small 
square Velcro self adhesive strips to the lid. This makes them easy to detach 
and remoisten. This keeps the moisture level just right for months at a time. 

I would also like to add that those wishing to find a political party that is 
not out to ban or tax tobacco may want to consider the Libertarian Party. The 
can be found at http://www.LP.org. Try taking the Worlds Smallest Political 
Quiz, your answers may surprise you. 

Happy New Year to all,

[Brad Krones' note from PD #266 deleted. -S.]

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From: ?????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page


As always I've enjoyed your newsletter. I have a new job teaching in
Poland, near Krakow and wonder about tobacco stores in
Poland. Especially in Krakow, Warsaw, and Kielce.  Also in Berlin
where I will be travelling a bit. Thanks, regards JS

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #267 -- December 30, 1999

In a message dated 12/30/1999 6:35:46 PM Central Standard Time, 
?????????????????? writes:

<< So friends, whether you're popping Millenium 2000 lids in Times Square
 or hunkered in the bunker with the Macbaren's and the MREs, have a
 good time, light up your favorite, and have a quiet thought on what
 comes next.  We'll see you on the other side.  >>
Hi Steve,   Sadly, the interference from "do-gooders" extends not only from 
our pipe racks & tobacco jars, but into almost everything in our daily lives. 
 Tonite, however, I'll celebrate with an old tin of Dunhill's Aperitif I 
bought at their shop in London several years ago, and a fresh brewed cup of 
Kenya Estate.  I suspect many of those who would abuse our right to a fine 
tobacco will abuse the booze tonite without a second thought.   Ah well, 
their problem, not mine.  Happy New Year and good health and happiness to 
you.        Regis McCafferty

[Thanks!  As it happened, I didn't smoke on New Years' Eve, though I
did go out at midnight and start my bike, as the editor of the BMWMOA
had recommended. The folowing morning, though, I rubbed out a bowlful
of PCCA Millenium 2000, and filled up a Bonaquisti rough-surface bent
poker. -S.]

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From: ??????????????????
Subject: Priceless enjoyment

Hello fellow pipesters.
I have been enjoying the e-company of many of you for a few years now.  I 
appreciate the letters from many new pipe smokers with their openness, their 
childlike inquisitiveness and the willing answers from the more experienced 
I am an occasional smoker who enjoys Latikia and Perique together in my 
blends.  I love the Balkan Sobranie original mixture, but I don't smoke it 
very often, so my supply of this mixture is going to last well past January 
1, 1900, hahaha!
I will be smoking my pipe as the calendar turns over.  It will be great to 
think of so many of you doing the same thing.
With very best wishes to all,
John Giunta

[We may have another opportunity for Y2K confusion this February
30. :-) Actually, Feb. 29, 2000 is an exception to an exception to an
exception that occurs only once every 400 years. -S. ]

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From: Bill Taylor <???????????????????????>
Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #267 -- December 30, 1999, "the pipe" web

At 02:47 AM 12/31/99 , you wrote:
>[I haven't checked your page out yet, but it certainly seems like it
>will be an asset to the community. By the way, you might want to
>consider keeping a non-frame version around, because it is easier to
>bookmark a specific page without the frames. Thanks! -S.]

Thanks for the suggestion, Steve. Wouldn't it easier to right-click the
frame one wishes to bookmark and select "Open Frame in New Window" from the
pop-up menu? Then the page can be easily book-marked without missing any of
the great graphics and design features of the site. ;) Having said that,
the non-frames version of the site can be accessed through

Puff in peace.

Bill Taylor <???????????????????????>


[Thanks, Bill! Gee, it seems like we're covering a lot of territory
these days! -S.]

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From: "Tarek Manadily" <????????????????>
Subject: RE Filter pipe - PD267

 Hi Steve,

>[Hmmm... perhaps Tarek could answer this? -S.]

I hope I don't let you down here, Steve ;-)  It's just I'm not sure what the
question is!  If you, J.E., want sources for filter pipes, then there are

One would be to order the Dan Pipe Catalog, where most of their pipes are
offered with and without a filter.  If you don't have the catalog, then
here's where you can order it online (it's for free): http://www.danpipe.de/

As for online sources, basically you should look for German sites, such as,

For more sources, try the ultimate guide:

Hope this will be of help (if I got the question right).

Happy New Year,

Synjeco's Pipe Smoker's Haven:

[J. E.'s original letter deleted. -S.]

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From: "LTC John W. Perkowski" <?????????????????????????????>
Subject: Filtered European pipes


During the four years I lived in Europe, most of the pipes I looked at,
from basket grade to the very highest grade, use a 9mm filter.  The
shanks were generally larger than what you would find on other pipes. 
The stem connection was turned extra large, and designed to fit into
the shank, in lieu of a filter.  The filter provided the connection
between stem and shank.

These days, take a look at both Vauen and Denicotea ... both on Dr
Beaty's website!

Anyway, my experience.

Smoke in peace, John

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From: "Gary Breylinger" <??????????????????>
Subject: Filters

Dear Steve,
    Please let me join the chorus of your readers who appreciate the 
labor of love you expend for the "community."
    It has been interesting to see the recent discussion on the subject 
of pipe filters.  I hope that we can agree that to filter or not to 
filter is a matter of individual preference and choice based upon any 
standard one wants to apply.  That said, I think that many of us who 
enjoy making, smoking, and owning "fine" pipes have a tendency to ignore 
or forget about the relative production volume among pipe 
    I suggest that if one totaled up the annual sales volume 6MM filter 
pipes of the Missouri Meerschaum Co., who advertise that they ship over 
7000 pipes per day (both filtered and unfiltered), plus the output of 
the S.M. Frank and Co. Medico Filter Pipes (production volume not 
mentioned on their web site, but it is huge--look in any drug store),  
Sparta Industries-Lane's Dr. Grabow Filter pipes (producing about one 
million pipes a year, including the non-filter Alpha), the number would 
be staggering.  Then add in the 9MM filter pipes made by Peterson, 
Brebbia, Stanwell, Dansk, Vauen, G. Jensen, Savinelli, Design Berlin, 
Giovanni di Varesse, Aldo Morelli, Bajarne, Bentley, Mastro Gepptto, L. 
Wood, Shaabi, Ph. Vigen, Cavicchi,  W.O. Larsen, Butz-Choquin, plus many 
others sold in Europe, and the numbers increase even more.
    It seems that there is no market in the USA for filter pipes among 
those buying 'better" and "high end" pipes.  Again, that is a matter of 
taste (no pun intended).  Lack of interest on that level does not mean 
lack of sales in the overall American pipe market.  I am going to stick 
my neck out and guess that perhaps half of the pipes sold in America are 
filter pipes. 20
    There will be many of you who read this who will have a far better 
idea of the figures than this old Geezer.  Won't someone do a little 
more digging to let us all have a better idea of the relative numbers 
        Yours in great clouds of smoke,  Gary Breylinger

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From: aaron pelz <??????????????????>
Subject: Rants

I agree with Doug Friedman. I too have been treated very 
poorly in my many of my recent visits to pipe and cigar 
shops. although I know nothing of the store he visited, I 
do empathize with him. Now, I do not look like your 
"average" pipe and cigar smoker. I am a 22 yr old college 
student with little money. And I look like it. I only wear 
jeans and tshirts. But that doesnt mean I do not know my 
fair share about the art of smoking. I would just like to 
warn shop owners of dismissing their customers before 
giving them their fair chance. So, if a young scruffy 
looking kid comes into your shop, give him the time of day. 
He has many friends that smoke as well. And they have many 
friends as well. you see where I am going with this. 

Aaron Pelz

[Totally agreed. That young scruffy kid might just be editing the 3D
Realtime High Definition Video Multimedia Pipes Digest on the Mobile
Quadraphonic UltraHyperMaxiMegaWeb. (And if so, I'd appreciate his
URI, and a Linux plugin for Netscape.) -S.]

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From: ???????????????
Subject: Young Pipe Smokers

Hi Steve
Reading back issues  of the digest has strengthened my belief that too many 
people in this country want to tell others what they can and can't do. It 
seems that a lot of young pipe smokers out there feel pressured to become 
part of the non-smoking flock.I urge them to rember that our right to freely 
choose for ourselves has been handed down to us by determinded people of past 
generations so that today we still enjoy smoking our pipes.It is our duty to 
preserve this right not only for ourselves but for pipe smokers of the 
future.So again i say thanks to those who maintain this digest and their 
efforts  to keep us free to enjoy one of life's great pleasures.

Larry Luffman

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From: ???????????????
Subject: A few questions on Pipes/Pipe tobacco

Hey! My name is Dave Grazynski, I am 18 and i just got into pipe smoking.  I 
have 2 questions... 1... The smell of pipes and pipe tobacco that has stuck 
with me throughout my life is of walking past a smoke shop in the mall, or 
hanging out with my grandfathers old army buddies, it is such an 
undescribable smell, it smells so sweet... i hope you have some idea of what 
i am rambling on about, i was wondering if you can point me in the direction 
of a tobacco that will bring me back that smell, i smoke Black Cherry tobacco 
now, but it isnt what i remember at all, any help would be greatly 
appreciated.... Secondly, for my 18th birthday as a gag present my friends 
bought me a "Tobacco" pipe from a head shop, obviously used for marijuana, 
which i havent done... i was wondering if i could use this for smoking my 
pipe, it is a stone bowl and a metal stem wrapped with leather, and a wooden 
mouthpiece, again anything that you can advise me will be very much 
appreciated, if you have any questions of what i mean about my questions on  
the smell of the tobacco feel free to email me some of your questions that 
can help you "show me the light".  Thank you very much

Dave Grazynski

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From: Mark Ward Donaldson <??????????????????????????>
Subject: New Subscription

Dear Steve:

Thank you ever so much for adding me to your list. It is really going to
be an asset to me...I've learned so much even from my first mailing.
I've only been smoking for 2 years, and already am learning some
mistakes I have made, and ways I can improve on it.

In your most recent mailing, there was some discussion concerning
shaving (what that has to do with pipe-smoking is beyond me...) but it
raised a question for me. During the winter I grow a beard, but shave it
in the summer. In Coastal Carolina (Wilmington, NC) it simply gets too
hot for it. So I don't worry about it in the winter. (I use an
electric). But in the summer, I'm really looking for a better
alternative. I love the closeness of a blade (I have a baby face), but
after two times I really tear my face up terrible. Is there something
I'm doing wrong, and is there ANY way I can use a blade that any one
knows about where I don't have to perform a blood scarifice?

Ever since my childhood, I've loved the aroma of a pipe. I just figured
everyone did. I am now discovering the hard way that is not the case.
Case in point: I was washing my clothes at the laundromat about a month
ago. Whilst my clothes were in the rinse cycle I was reading some
magazine enjoying my pipe I was just thinking just how good the aroma
was, when just then, in the back I heard a couple of fat yahoo redneck
women who had been on a kvetching tear for about 30 minutes (it was
really starting to get on my nerves, actually) said, not to me, but just
loud enough where I could hear her, "...and I wish that man would put
out that damn pipe! It's making me sick to my stomach...all my clothes
are gonna smell like smoke...yada, yada, yada..." That really made me
mad, because I pride myself on being considerate. I didn't say
anything...(I'm not a confrontational fellow, besides what good would it
accomplish?) I found this very ironic, since I haven't noticed my pipe
smell ever getting into my clothes (not to say it hasn't, it's just that
I've never noticed it...it's not like stale cigarette smoke -- the
WORST!) Is this a common occurrence? What was funny about the whole
thing is that I had just been thinking just how good this blend was! Has
this happened to anyone else? Suggestions? 

BTW, LOVED the comments about Orson Welles. I'm a radio announcer by
profession, and have always ADORED his voice...and I think Citizen Kane
is one of the best films ever made!!

Love your service!

Smoke in peace!

Mark Ward Donaldson

P.S.: I hope this submission isn't too long...I apologize if it is...I'm
new at this...

[Not too long at all, Mark. Thanks! The shaving topic got started a
couple of issues ago as a side comment about straight razors, and the
membership has been lathered up about it ever since. Like I said, we
cover all the finer pleasures of life here. -S.]

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Gentlemen-: It's been a while since I last posted so thought I'd add a
few thoughts to the various items that are being discussed here. I'm
really interested in the shaving ideas that were mentioned
previously. My Dad taught me how to shave when I was in jr. hi. and I
never thought much about it till I went to basic training in 1968. It
was Summer in Ft. Dix and the heat and humidity was a killer with the
daily shaving we had to do to keep the drill sgts off our back. One of
the guys had a Playboy that gave a decsription of the proper way to
shave. I don't know if I follow it exactly today but from what I
remember; wash your face with hot soapy water; apply a hot wash cloth
to your face to soften the beard; apply the shaving cream to your damp
face and let it sit for a minute or so before beginning shaving. I've
used all manner of razors and my favorite right now is the Gillette
twin blade job. The straight razors seem to be a bit dangerous to me,
but with practice, it should be fun. In the old days a barber would
trim behind your ears and down the back of your neck with a straight
razor after applying a hot shaving cream from a dispensor on the
counter. The army quit doing this in 85 or so because of the AIDS
business. I used to just love having that razor run over the back of
my neck and really miss it. I just got my hair cut last week by a
barber who used to do that and we had a nice talk about some of the
old ways they used to do things. Remember Butch Wax? Wildroot Creame
Oil? Anyway, I've had a beard for three years but just may shave it as
I kind of miss the ritual.

I just got back from two weeks of vacation in Iowa and managed bag a
few pheasants and ate some great meals to include a venison loin roast
that was some of the best venison that I've ever had. I smoked some
new tobaccos to include Gawith's Grousemoor and Dunhill's Three Year
Aged Virginia. I guess I'm not a big fan of the Virginia's as they
remind me too much of cigarettes. I love the taste of latakia and it's
hard to get used to some of these other tobacs. In WA here it's hard
to find some of the tobaccos you guys write about so it looks like
it's going to be a mail order deal for me. I just read an article in
the paper and wished I'd save it but it looks like the liberals in BC
are going to ban smoking in all resturants and bars in the province. I
was wondering how this was going to affect the RCMP meeting. I've
wanted to join this group but just have'nt the time to drive up there
for an overnighter. My wife and I do enjoy an occassional weekend in
Victoria and the last time I was there they'd outlawed smoking in bars
in Victoria. At my hotel bar I had to take my beer and smoke my pipe
outdoors in a covered area.

I hope all are well and enjoy reading your letters. Keep puffing.   

Big John  

[They're trying in Princeton, aka Prisstown, NJ also. Possibly that
one's been killed due to pressure from restauranteurs. -S.]

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Gentlemen! I am new to your digest, and have spent countless hours
reading past editions. I was intrigued about the topic of "mug"
shaving and the use of various razors. I myself am 26, use the new
Mach3 with Edge Gel. I prefer some of the nicer things in life, great
pipes, nice fountain pens, and a good scotch. Am I missing the boat on
"Mug and Cake" shaving? How does one get started in such an art?

Prolonged Puffing To All,
J. David Adams 

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I bought 2 pipes (one $30 another $35) from PhoebusAuction they stated
in an email that $6.50 was the premium and shipping charge. I just
looked at my credit card statement and they charged another $10 2 days
later, when I confronted them, they just said that the $6.50 was a
premium that they charge and the $10 was shipping by priority mail and
insurance.  I am rather disappointed by there buisness tactics!


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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Happy New Year and all that to everyone out there. I haven't posted in
a while, so I figured I'd drop a line. A while back, during the music
conversation, I was asked if I listen to Rush and Yes; I do, with much
enjoyment. And I, too, shave with an old safety razor and shaving
soap, although it's more "beard maintenance" than outright
shaving... Now I have two questions. Does anyone else out there play
the Japanese game go? I was recently introduced to the game, and have
noticed that a high proportion of the people here who play it
(actually, only two of us, but it's still a high proportion) smoke
pipes. There's not much like settling down to a good game of go with a
very slow-burning tobacco (those who play will know what I mean) and a
cup of good coffee...  My other question may actually be answered by a
look at the Archives, but I'll ask anyway. A friend of mine is going
to Ireland, and has offered to bring me back some pipe tobacco. As a
flake addict, I am interested in trying the Irish plug tobaccos, which
the way I understand it can be used either for chewing or smoking
(I'll concentrate exclusively on the latter) and are rather strong by
American standards. Can anyone tell me what the best brands are so I
can help my friend in this daunting (for the nonsmoker that she is)
task? My e-mail address is ??????????????????????? although I can also
be reached at ????????????????????? Thanks in advance for any help I
recieve (this being the best mailing list I've seen, I also thank the
Management for maintaining it.)

--Tim Bender (Abbot of the Daiben-ji Fundamentalist Rinzai Zen Temple;
  Our motto : Thwack!)

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From: "Don Johnson" <??????????????????>
Subject: Looking for suggestions

Hi Steve

Bet you never envisioned when you started the Digest that it would 
become the mammoth undertaking it did. Congratulations on your fortitude 
and dedication in keeping it going.

I'm writing to ask the members for tobacco suggestions. After six years 
I've become jaded with my present blend. What I'm looking for is an 
English or non-aromatic blend that smokes cool, is slow-burning, has no 
perique and minimum Latakia and is available mail-order as here in 
Daytona Beach there is only one pipe shop--a Tinder Box. If members will 
email suggestions to me, I'll request or buy samples of the most popular 
or most interesting-sounding blends and report back to the group on the 
results of my "research." Thanks.

Don Johnson
PC Presentations Productions
Electronic Magazine for Digital Content Producers

[Hmmmm... mammoth undertakings... now that's a topic we haven't hit
yet!  Seems to me that there's little demand these days for funerals
for mammoths, especially since all the prospective customers were
buried in the last Ice Age.

By the way, have you tried Craig's "Mammoth Mania" yet?  Just a hint
of burning fossilized pachyderm hair to hold the saber-tooth tigers at
bay... :-) -S. ]

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From: "BIG AL" <???????????????????>
Subject: dents and your digest

1. was my name ever added to your list of new members ?

2. i look frorward to getting and reading your news letter.

3. di i read an article somewhere about repairing small dents with a wet 
cloth and hot knife in one of your letters...if so point me in the right 
directio..eg #

big al

[Yep -- you're on the list. You'll find the article on removing dents
in Pipes Digest #215, which is available on the Web site. -S.]

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From: "Mahmoud el Kouni, Ph.D." <?????????????????????>
Subject: FW: An Excellent Pipe Shop in Paris and "The Perfect pipe" by Jeffrs
MIME-Version: 1.0

During my last trip to Paris I came upon an excellent pipe shop in the
Latin Quarter at the cross of Boulevard Saint-Germain and Boulevard
Saint-Michel. Its name is "Au Caid". It may be the oldest pipe shop in
Paris. It occupied its present location since 1878. "Au Caid's" old and
classic oak fittings gives the store a warm comfortable ambiance. The
proprietors, the Schmitt family (fourth and fifth generation), are polite
and very helpful. They have a large and excellent assortment of pipes and
pipe accessories. What caught my eyes were the high grade Chacoms. You
rarely see the like of such beauties outside France. I treated myself to a
large bent beautifully grained Chacom with a 3 inches tall bowl and a
carved horn stem adorned with intricate silver work. I also got a nice
silver tamper. Beside being a real beauty, the pipe smoked like a charm
from the first buff. If you are ever in Paris, you should pay a visit to
"Au Caid". Here are the coordinates of the Au Caid and it would be nice if
you can added it to the list of pipe shops in the resource guide.    

				Au Caid
				24 Boulevard Saint-Michel
				Paris 6eme 
				Tel: 0143260401 

On a different aspect of pipes, I have recently bought and read "The
perfect Pipe" by H. Paul Jeffers. The book gives the very basic tips on
pipe smoking.  It is elegantly outlaid, nicely written and was quite an
enjoyable reading during the holidays. The book is a welcome addition to
pipe smoking library.

Dr. Mahmoud H. el Kouni 
4632 Round Forest Drive
Mountain Brook, AL  35213-1830

Tel.:	205-870-5945 (H)
               205-934-1132 (B)
FAX:	205-934-8240
e-mail: 	?????????????????????

[Yes, Au Caid was mentioned in PD #192, but we didn't have their
telephone number. Thanks for the additional report! -S.]

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From: Roman Hebert <??????????????????>
Subject: Yellow mouthpieces

I have some problems regarding the colour of my pipes' mouthpieces:
after a few years they all tend to adapt some kind of yellow shimmer;
when I carefully tried to wash this of with water, it seemed to get
even worse.  Also a specially designed mouthpiece-polish from Dunhill
didn't do a perfect job. I'd be very pleased and grateful if somebody
could give me a piece of advice.

Roman Philipp Hebert, Marburg, Germany

[See the next letter. -S.]

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From: "Skyles-Mulligan, Steven" <????????????????????>


I have a question that I hope you can answer.  Just got a pretty good deal
today on my first Peterson (I'm a rather wet smoker, so I'm hoping this will
help).  Unfortunately, the store must've had the item in stock for awhile
because the vulcanite stem is seriously oxidized.  It also still has a bit
of adhesive from the price tag stuck to it.  The worst part is that it
tastes a little icky.  How do I safely clean the stem (never mind restoring
the luster).  


Steven Skyles-Mulligan
Interactive Strategy

[Probably the easiest way would be to buff it with a mild abrasive.
Toothpaste works fine.  Following that, shine it up with some carnauba
wax. See question 3.5 at the alt.smokers.pipes FAQ, which is posted
periodically to the newsdgroup or is available at
http://www.pipes.org/asp_FAQ.html. -S.]

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From: "Roeleveld, Adriaan" <???????????????????????>
Subject: new entry PD pipe resource list

Hi Steve and all fellow PD-ers,

A few weeks ago I discovered a pipe and tobacco shop in Amsterdam and I
think it deserves a place in the pipe resource list. It is called Smokiana
and the address is:
	Smokiana pipeshop
	Prinsengracht 488
	NL-1017 KH  Amsterdam
	phone: +31 20 4211779
	(open: Wednesday-Saturday 12.00h-18.00h)

My first impression was: 'This is a small shop"; it is a shop in a basement
of an old Amsterdam canal-house. But after a closer look the vast assortment
of pipes astonished me; Dunhill, Peterson, Butz Choquin, Chacom, Salvinelli,
Stanwell, Georg Jensen, Big Ben, ... Almost all major European brands are
available. Of many brands the complete lines are at choice in the drawers of
the shop. It must be thousands of pipes (2, 3000?). Incredible! So many nice
pipes in one shop! The only bigger collection of pipes that I have seen is
the house of 10000 pipes in Koeln (Germany), but this collection is really
very good! (Drool..... I am saving now for my next pipe. I know the shop
where I am going to buy it ...)

The second feature that struck me was the collection of books about pipes,
tobaccos, cigars, etc. in English, French, German, Dutch, Danish, ... the
biggest collection of books on the subject I have ever seen (and most of you
will know how hard it is to find some books on it in a regular bookstore or
tobacconist). Also the shop features a very broad collection of antique
pipes; clay, porcelain, etc. for those who like that. Finally, of course
there was also a quite nice choice of tobaccos (mainly English, Danish and
Dutch tobaccos). Not such a choice as the choice of pipes, but that's hardly

The shopkeeper turned out to be a historian who wrote some books on clay
pipes, so that could explain this assortment. He also told me that, on the
first floor, a pipe museum is coming up, hopefully in 2000. It will be
called Het Pijpenkabinet (The Pipe Cabinet). It was formerly housed in
Leiden and is told to be the world's biggest collection on clay pipes. Also
there will be a room for club events on that floor. If I hear something more
about this, I will post it to the Pipe Digest.

The shop is close to the Leidschestraat and the Rijksmuseum (Rembrandt
paintings!) so, if you visit Amsterdam as a tourist, you will probably
already be in that area. I would certainly recommend a visit!
(No, I am not paied to say so, I'm just enthousiastic)

Puff in peace,

Adriaan Roeleveld

[A new entry for the Resource Guide, Adriaan; thanks! -S.]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

I really enjoy the arrival of this most interesting digest; having
been a pipe smoker for aprox. 20 some years. I have recently come
across a pipe named "Silver MacDuff" and another pipe named "Imported
Sterling Briar" does anyone have any info on these (when made, etc.)?
Also, being a new Kaywoodie collector can anyone lead me to a source
for the number - year (manufacture) on these pipes? 'The smoke from
the pipe bowl is memories burning for the smoker to reflect on - The
ash or dottle a subtle reminder to enjoy all fleeting
tomorrows'. Thank you for your help, Bill Lumberry.

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From: "David Flora" <???????????????????>
Subject: Response to Phillip Burnard

Hello, All!

     First, thanks Steve for this fine effort for pipesmokers, reading 
this is such a treat!
     Now, in response to Prof. Phillip Burnard concerning clay 
churchwardens:  I am not an expert on the subject of clay pipes, but I 
do own and enjoy a churchwarden of my own, it has a 14 inch stem, and is 
made a P. J. Van der Wanta (maybe not a real name) in Gouda Holland.  I 
purchased it a my local pipestore, and it is a joy on those certain 
occasions with a period book or movie.  Good luck on finding what you 
     Also regarding the "erosion?" of the smokehole in your poor clays, 
"real" clay is fired in a furnace reaching 2000+ degrees, so I rather 
doubt that you are actually "burning" the hole larger.  There are to my 
knowledge 2 ways of making a clay however, one in which the clay is 
actually rolled into shape, and the other in which "slip" or a soupy 
clay and water mix are poured into a mould.  Could it be that the 
moisture in the pipe during smoking is doing the damage?  Smoking more 
English blends could solve the problem as they contain fewer oils and 
additives, and of course allowing a proper resting time between smokes 
may as well.  I hope this helps, happy smoking!

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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Manuel_Ram=F3n_Janeiro_Sarabia?= <?????????????????????>
Subject: Saludos

He visitado su pagina: Excelente!
Pueden enviarme informacio'n?

[Sorry, my Spanish is not good enough to answer this question. Perhaps
some of our members in SAPC could respond? -S.]

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From: ??????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Oldtimers might remember the largest supplier of good for
"outdoorsmen, trappers, and explorers." Yes, HERTER'S Inc. of Waseca,
Minnesota supplied frontier types with the highest quality
materials. Even though Herter's had dozens of different kinds of
traps, snowshoes, and even pipes to sell, they had only one brand of
tobacco; for, George Herter sincerely felt that with his personal
blend, "GRIZZLY BEAR," he had achieved perfection, and all other
mixtures were inferior. As a youth, on the Crow Reservation in
Montana, I could hardly wait for my pouch of "GRIZZLY BEAR" to arrive
at the Post Office. Unfortunetly, Herter's grandsons bankrupted the
old mail-order company in the early 1970's, and this great blend was
no more. In the spirit of Herter's, I am offering this great blend
again. Like the original, exotic tobaccos are used that are cured with
Angostura aromatic bitters and humidified with Bitterroot apple
slices.  To procure this and/or receive a free brochure contact:
Dr. Ben F. Irvin/730 Manzanita Dr./Apt. A/Globe, AZ 85501; or Phone:
520-425-7060; Fax: 801-365-4192; or e-mail: ??????????????????????

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From: ?????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Help!  I'm looking for some information on WALLY FRANK pipes.  I just
bought a reconditioned one (and whoever did the work did an
outstanding job!) and it is VERY NICE with good straight grain, only
one fill I can find and a slightly "squashed" calabash shape.  Smokes
better than my two Petersons and all but as nice as my meerschaums!
(I smoked McLelland's Black Shag as my test)

Anyone with information can email me at:


Robert E. Abel

[Wally Frank was taken over by the Finck Cigar Company a few years
ago. You can find their address, email, phone number, and web site in
the Resource Guide, http://www.pipes.org/resource_guide.html. -S.]

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From: ?????????????????
Subject: GBD

 I enjoyed your web site. as a fairly novice pipe smoker,it offered a good 
bit of information. I wanted to know if there is a website for GBD pipes.
 I also wanted to let you know of a gentleman that repairs pipes. I am going 
to send him A GBD that has it`s mouth piece broken. 
 He is:  Dennis Moore
            1404 Buchanan
            Wichita Falls, Tx. 76309
 I talked with him by phone, and he was very helpful and patient, given my 
lack of knowledge about pipes. He does not have a web site or email. He told 
me about  Tom Dunn`s Pipe Smoker`s Ephemeris. Do you know if there is a web 
site or email for Mr. Dunn? Thank you for your help.

Mark Morgan
Katy, Tx (Houston)

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From: Andrew Krug <??????????????????????>
Subject: Pipes, et al...

Mr. Masticola, 
I have recently become intruiged with the idea of pipe smoking and was
wondering if I could ask you a couple of questions.  

First, I have enjoyed cigar smoking for a while now, but it has one major
disadvantage - the smoke tends to be so thick and pungent that it makes the
neighbors ornery (I live in an apartment building) and stinks up anything
it comes in contact with.  Smoking outdoors is fine during nice weather,
but what to do during the winter?  Can I safely smoke a pipe indoors
without the problems of cigars?

Second, as you might imagine, I have been overwhelmed by the number of
pipes available.  Given my positive experience with tobacco in the past, I
am more than willing to start off with a briar, rather than a corncob.  Do
you have any specific brand/model recommendations?  I would prefer
something bent, with minimal break-in.  

I sincerely appreciate your help.

NetZero - Defenders of the Free World
Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at

[Light aromatic tobaccos will probably cause the least problems with
the neighbors, but if they're just chronic complainers then politeness
ain't gonna help. Call 1-888-COSA-NOSTRA and make them an offer they
can't refuse. :-)

I'm a little hesitant to recommend specific brands.  Just have a look
at the FAQs on the Web page, visit your local tobacconist, and spend a
pleasant time shopping. -S.]

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From: ????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

All Hail To Thee Oh Fearless Moderator!

I have been a reader of our Digest now for a long time, but have only
been a b again pipe-smoker for the past six or seven months--having
finally broken a forty year cigarette habit! Oh Fearless Leader, I
have (probably dumb) question.  I down-loaded all the past
Digests. Not knowing a TAR from a B.A.R., I had to down-load them
one-by one. Now, I am going thru them and changing them from HTML to
Word format, one by one. Then I intend to put them on floppies, one by
one.  When finished, I will most likely go into the back bed-room
where I'll not bother anyone, and tear my hair out. One by one!
Anyway--when I finish this project, I'd like to give copies of the
disks to a pipe-smoking friend of mine. Would, in any way, this
violate the copy-right laws, or worse, bring your personal wrath down
upon me? Since I'm not at all familiar with the legal niceities, and
since they seem to change from day-to-day anyway, and more so, since
you put so much work and effort into the Digest, I thought it would be
not only wise, but polite, to ask first!

Thanks Steve--and many thanks for the Digest. It not only provides
pleasure and information, but has been instrumental in helping me
break that cigarette habit!

Y'r Ob't Sv't; Tom Kinnaird

[Hey, as long as they're not used commercially, it's fine with me. But
can I suggest a CD-RW instead of floppies? -S.]

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From: Gourgen Oganessyan <?????????????????????????>
Subject: question.

Hi again!
As I have mentioned in my posting, I just acquired  a clay pipe from Mr
Paul. The question is: how do I clean it? The Book (R. C. Hacker's)
says thou shalt not jum a pipecleaner up a clay's stem, and talks
about putting them in a fireplace, but since I do not have one, I would
have to go out in a freezing weather after every smoke, make fire in my
barbeque grill, etc. Plus I read somewhere that repeated application of
this procedure will make the pipe very fragile. Perhaps boiling water,
I heard it works fine for Lepeltier and Zenith style percelains, but I
am not sure about a traditional clay. Can anyone suggest a way for 

Thanks in adavnce!


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From: Gourgen Oganessyan <?????????????????????????>
Subject: Hello from NC!

Hello everyone!
I haven't written to the Digest for a while because I was moving from
Australia to Charlotte, North Carolina. Mixed feelings about the move --
gonna miss it downunder, especially some of my favorite Canberra
tobacconists and Sydney's George Street and Sol Levy's, of course (to
Graeme Steel -- sorry we couldn't meet for that dinner and a pipe session,
hope to be back soon enough for another chance!)
Although I still ahven't acquired a car here, I have made several visits
to tobacco shops in Charlotte and made some additions to my pipe
collection. Got a nice little Hardcastle (pipes made by Dunhill, as i
understand), the style is Prince, and it's quickly become one of my
favorite pipes. Also after wanting to try a clay for years, finally the
treasured package arrived yesterday from Mr Paul's establishment
(excellent service!) -- a short plain clay. Really liked smoking it, and
have decided to try a double-walled Lepeltier as well, and have asked them
to send me their brochure. As far as Tobacco, bought a couple of oz of
Crooner and Crown Royale from the Southpark Tinderbox here, and liked them
both. Have also been smoking the common drugstore brands, and risking
to cause the rage of tobacco purists will say this: Half & Half is good.
Burley and bright Virginia, what can go wrong?
 Looking forward to the next issue of the digest, and smoke in peace!

 Gugo Oganessyan

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From: "Carlo Simonetti" <??????????????????>
Subject: Links?

I would be very happy to receive your recommended list of pipe links. Thanks
in advance.

Carlo Simonetti (proud pipe smoker since 19........)
Torino, Italy

[Have a look at Steve Beaty's page at www.pipes.org. More links than a
kilometer of sausage. :-) -S. ]

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From: "HSTEAD" <?????????????????>
Subject: Pipe Smoking in New Tolkien Movies!!

I thought you all might find this interesting. New Line Cinema and New 
Zealand director Peter Jackson have started production on a live-action 
movie trilogy of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. Tolkien readers 
(and many pipe smokers) know that the author's work is full of 
characters who love pipes, tobacco, and smoke rings. I know several 
tobacco enthusiasts who, like me, were introduced to the joy of pipes 
through the Rings books. Tolkien himself once said that he loved waking 
up each morning because it meant another day of pipe smoking.  A great 
photo of Tolkien smoking a pipe is available at 
http://www.theonering.com/image_archive/index.cfm (for Image Type, 
select Biographical). By all accounts, it looks like Peter Jackson is 
staying close to the text. Here's a couple quotes from reporters who 
were watching the filming:

"Between takes, crew members refill the hobbits' pipes, using a mixture 
of medicinal paraffin and incense, which creates thick, sweet-smelling 

"Everything is thought about. The scene being filmed had Gandalf talking 
to Frodo about pipeweed, I presume, for he mentioned its Latin name. The 
linguists worried about whether he'd use a Latinate pronunciation or 
not. "Nicotiana." Gardeners say it 'nic-oe-chana,' but Gandalf, being 
'learned', could be expected to say it more precisely, 'nicoteeahna.'"

And finally, a quote from English actor Ian McKellan, who plays Gandalf: 
"The Gandalf who visits his old friends Bilbo and Frodo has lots of 
props. Already I have had to cope with his staff, his toffees, his 

If the movies remain true to the books, this could be the biggest boost 
to pipe smoking from Hollywood since Bing Crosby or the classic Sherlock 
Holmes movies! If anyone hears any rumors about who is carving the pipes 
for the movies, I'd be interested to know. For more coverage of the 
films, the best website so far is www.theonering.net.

[Excellent!  The Bakshi version didn't do Tolkien any sort of justice
-- hope this one is better. -S.]

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From: "Gregory Pease" <????????????????>
Subject: FW: Letter to P&T

[Forwarded to me by Craig & Patty Tarler. The best to you too! -S.]

Dear Chuck:

These are exciting days for pipe smokers as P&T so ably demonstrates -- new
pipe makers, new blends and the convenience of your magazine and the
worldwide Internet to find them and try them. And there's more excitement on
the way!

For three days in October after the Richmond Show, Gregory Pease, an old
friend,  visited with us at C&D for what we all assumed was a "busman's
holiday" --  just seeing another manufacturer and exchanging ideas. After
playing in the "candy store" for a day or so and exchanging a few blenders'
secrets (not all, of course, since Gimbals' doesn't tell Macy's
everything!), we began to range afield over a great bottle of single malt
Scotch. "Why", we asked ourselves, "don't we do some blends together?" With
my drop of knowledge and Gregory's pailful we thought we might be able to
come up with some exciting blends.

After a couple of months planning, plotting, experimenting and two-a-day
telephone calls, we think we've done it! By the time your next issue hits
the street in late January or early February, there will be at least two new
blends under the new "Two Friends" label. The first, "Bed and Breakfast," is
an allay, easy on the palate (and on those around us) English blend that we
both have taken to as a regular smoke.  The second, yet to be named and
still in the final stages of development, will be a light aromatic with the
true flavor of Irish Mist. More blends are in the "kitchen" and they will be
announced when finished.

The blends will be sold vacuum-packed in 8 ounce, re-sealable, heavy plastic
bags, and priced slightly higher than everyday bulk blends. Sales and
marketing will be through C&D. We are very excited about the opportunity to
bring premium blends to the pipe smoking community at reasonable prices.

Keep up the good work with P&T! The magazine has matured beautifully under
your tutelage and has become a "must read" for all of us dedicated to the

Craig Tarler


Dear Chuck,

By now, I'm sure you've received Craig Tarler's letter concerning our
collaborative efforts on the new "Two Friends" labeled tobaccos.

Though Craig and I have known each other for several years, this is the
first time we've worked together on a serious project, and I must tell you,
it has been delightful. Craig's knowledge, enthusiasm and boundless energy,
coupled with the beautiful countryside of the North Carolina mountains, has
been the real inspiration for these blends.

Who'd have thought that my little October holiday with the Tarlers would
turn into something like this? Patty and Craig are wonderful hosts (I can
only hope that I was an acceptable house guest!) and the days and evenings
were filled with beautiful Fall sight-seeing, lively conversation, good
food, and, come cocktail hour, enough good whiskey to germinate an idea or
two. All in all, this was one of the most wonderful, albeit short vacations
in recent memory, and I'm certainly looking forward to my next vist to

I wish you a Happy New Year, and great success with P&T in 2000, and well

With Best Regards,
Gregory Pease

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From: ???????????????????
Subject: Hoja Cigars

Hoja Has Landed!


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From: Nigrelli <????????????????>
Subject: Favorite tobaccos

This from new subscriber John Nigrelli
Hi Steve,

If this is a bit much, let me know.  Or if you want a different format,
I will be happy to oblige.

I have been smoking a pipe off and on for thirty years.  I enjoy reading
the dialogue between subscribers; but I do wish that more of you would
record your tobacco preferences and experiences.  Tobacco is fun as long
as it is not abused.  I thought that I might start the ball rolling by
listing my top ten favorite pipe tobaccos.  I realize that my list is
VERY subjective.  I am inclined toward english/oriental mixtures, though
I do occasionally spell myself with a Virginia Mixture or Virginia
Flake.  I usually dislike aromatics but again occasionally, I will make
an exception for some of the Danish products such as Mac Barens
products.  I do not know any of the individuals mentioned below, though
I have purchased tobacco from a few of them at various Pipe shows.  And
I certainly have no commercial interest in anything remotely pertaining
to tobacco.

Well..here goes.  I don't claim to have smoked everything.  I haven't
touched Rattrays in years and I still haven't found time to smoke a tin
of Penzance.  But here is my current top ten.

#10 Esoterica's Margate: A semisweet full latakia mixture with good
body.  It is very mellow and leaves a classic smell in the room.  It
would be higher in the rating but it does burn hot on occasion and I
find myself looking for more spice.  All in all, I do return to it

#9 Cornell & Diehl's Black Duck: This blend is 25% Latakia on a Black
Cavendish base with lots of Turkish to complete a full tobacco taste.
It is a very satisfying blend that has great mouth feel.  While not at
all spicy, it is one of my staples.  If improperly packed, it can smoke
hot; but Black Duck showcases what simple blending can do without exotic
ingredients or esoteric procedures.  As with all of C&D products

#8 Samuel Gawith's Commonwealth Mixture: This tobacco has a refreshing
pure taste.  It is very mild tasting for a mixture of 50% Latakia and
50% steamed Virginia.  It is not sweet or nutty in taste.  The effect is
muted Latakia with faint Virginia overtones.  This tobacco is the
definition of understatement. This is an excellent mixture and I will
smoke it when I want a mild Latakia taste but not the kick usually found
in such blends.

#7 Lane's Crown Achievement: This is a nutty, medium to full strength
Virginia based oriental mixture.  The Virginia tobaccos are sharp at
times.  The blend seems at those moments to be imperfectly balanced and
it is my opinion that the leaf used or the manufacturing process is not
what it was thirty years ago.  That being said, it remains one of the
best tobaccos of its type and a very flavorful mixture.  It is still
very very good, even if it used to be, in my mind, perfect.

#6 Ashton's Old Dog:  This is an excellent example of what an English
blend should taste like.  With a Virginia and Black Cavendish base, the
Cyprian Latakia and Xanthia provide a sweet nutty taste that makes this
blend a winner.  The smell in the tin when opened, and later when smoked
is fabulous.  The care and craft with which it is made is obvious and
impressive.  I have been told that it ( and all Ashton tobacco products
) are manufactured in this country by Mike and Mary McNiel for Ashton
under contract.  If so, I am not surprised as they always turn out a
great product.

Tie for 4th place:

#4 James B. Russell's Bengal Slices--(by way of Denmark): This is a
simple blend of pressed Virginia and Latakia with a faint Danish casing
of some sort that uncharacteristically doesn't bother me a bit.  Mild
and mellow, it is an English type mixture, without Turkish, and it burns
very cool because of its flake unrubbed cut and in spite of the casing
added.  Because it is so cool burning, I often use this to break in new
pipes.  It has a smoky mouth feel that is a bit monochromatic, but never
seems to bore me.  I will always want this around to "spell" me from the
fancier mixtures and besides, it tastes great.

#4 Friedman & Pease's  Kismet: This tobacco is a smooth and subtle,
medium tasting Oriental mixture that uses Syrian and Cyprian Latakia.
It is a colorful mix of Turkish, orange and red stoved Virginias, with
white burley in the blended product.  It is an all day smoke that will
never over whelm you, even though there is a slight trace of Perique
present.  This tobacco is a constant delight and the care with which it
is blended is apparent in every puff.  This was a "new" product to me
and I am very impressed with the work product delivered.

#3 Cornell & Diehl's Syrian Trawler: This is simply one of the best
mixtures that I have ever tasted.  It is very smooth with a full taste.
It will not over power the smoker and the taste is so much like heavy
cream that if you can only find time for one bowlfull of tobacco a day,
this is your tobacco.  The Syrian Latakia is blended with Cyprian
Latakia, Turkish and red and stoved Virginia, but this is a Latakia
lovers dream.  Thank you very much Craig!

#2 McClelland's British Woods: This is a surprisingly mild tasting
semisweet Virginia based Oriental Mixture.  The taste of sweet
Macedonian leaf is spiked by the presence of a very small amount of
Perique.  This delicious  Latakia/Oriental blend grew on me with each
bowlfull.  It leaves the room with a natural sweet smell that has me
revisiting rooms in which I have recently smoked this wonderful mixture.

#1 Ashton's  Celebrated Sovereign: To me, the best of the best and
selecting this #1 from the  top three was not easy; but my heart led the
way.  It is a semisweet and medium/full strength Syrian Latakia mixture
with nutty overtones.  It is perfectly blended to allow no single
tobacco to dominate.  The Black Cavendish and Turkish Dubec merge to
provide a consistent and delicate tobacco taste.

Well that's it.  To my mind we are living in a golden age of tobacco.
People like Craig and Patty Tarler, Bob and Mary McNiel and Greg Pease
and his talented friend Mr. Friedman, have made the world of tobacco
blending exciting again.  Don't worry about the "glorious" past, these
professionals are the future.

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From: ???????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Hi !
Certainly you may be interested by the Algerian type of Briar .
So we can supply you with this noble material.
We will be waiting forward a message from you.
Please contact us at :
Mr Abdelmalek CHETITAH
Tel/Fax : +213-5474833
Email : ???????????????????????

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From: ???????????????????????????
Subject: posting from pipes page

Dear Steve and Bro. of the Briar:

I just found out that I will be going to Denver on thursday the 24th
of November, and will have a nice amount of time to my self which I
have decided to dedicate in part to visiting a pipe shop and having
smoke. If any one has any suggestions please let me know.

I have made a visit to Hall's Bro. Pipe Dreams in Durango CO which is
more of an adult novelty store with a cigar humidor. If you are in the
area, don't waste your time. It is mainly smutt and cigarettes. very
trashy atmosphere. they sell pipes, but their staff doesn't know a
tobacco chamber from a whole in the ground, so it's no fun to talk
smoke with them. I witnessed one staff tell a customer who was
purchacing a nording that they precarbonize the tobacco chamber by
scalding it with a flame or hot poker. (i personally like the blow
torch technique). I also read in the news paper recently that they had
been busted in a sting opperation for selling bidi's to minors. this
doesn't really do much for the immiage of responsible tobacco users.

I recently visited the edwards tobacco shop in Fort Collins at 3306
College. The new owner seems to be very passionate about the hobby and
has a huge humidore of very nice looking cigars. He offered a quite
nice sellection of pipes, and intends to improve his tinned pipe
tobacco sellection. His bulk stuff looked good. very natural smelling,
additive free kind of goodies. Best of all he liked to talk! He
expressed knowledge, and was inquisitive about new tobaccos and
various pipe brands. if I had not needed to leave to get back to my
conference i would have spent more time talking, but I had to go. He
was happy to sell me the 100 gm tin of Dunhill Royal Yacht, but not
let that be the end of the sale. I appreciated this.

any way, these are my reviews of colorado area pipe shops that I have
been to. If any one knows of a good one in the Denver area, again,
please shoot me an e-mail. thanks mucho!

The Moon Doggy

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From: "Clive Humm" <??????????????????????>
Subject: Joe at Boeing

This is a long shot.  Does anyone out there know a pipesmoker named Joe,
working for Boeing?

Joe wrote to me, asking about some of the pipes I have for sale but
he did not give a valid e-mail address so I could not reply to him.

This is annoying as I always try to answer messages promptly - and I guess
that Joe is thinking pretty badly of me right now, as he has not heard from

So, if anybody knows Joe at Boeing, please ask him to contact me again.

Happy pipesmoking!


Click on this link to view my website.

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From: ?????????????????????
Subject: FREE

'thought I would try some tinned tobac when a summer outlet closed down. I
now realize what I had was really good stuff and have NO interest in some
Nightcap, Esoteerica Tobacciana Dorchester and a bit of Dunhill Elizabethan
Mixture along with some Frog...

Anyone who is interested just has to e-mail me with a snail-mail address
and I'll drop 'em in a mailbox.

The tins are mostly full and in good shape.

PS -- I finally got my rebate from PipeSmoke!

Russ Oechslin

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From: John M Millholland <??????????????????????????>
Subject: RE: Peter Stokkebye Bulk Tobacco - Jack Atkins

Hello Jack,

    In response to your query in the last digest, I've done some digging,
and Royal Cigar (AKA Tobacco Supermarket) in Atlanta carries a Stokkebye
bulk blend called "Irresistable Chocolate", which may be the blend you
mentioned from your local tobacconist, or at least a close relative. You
can order it over the internet at www.tobaccomkt.com, and they also have
an 800 number should you not feel comfortable ordering over the net.

On another tobacco note - has anyone had the chance yet to try the
recently imported Astley's blends? My local tobacconist (LJ Peretti's in
Boston) recently got in a large shipment of both Astley's and Fribourg and
Treyer blends. I've had the occasion to try Astley's No. 109, and it is a
delicious virginia flake, I would recommend it highly. With all the talk
of some of the great old blends disappearing, its nice to see some other
showing back up again. Looks like not every blending house is afraid of
the US legal system!

Wishing you all a successful New Year!

Smoke in peace, 

John Millholland

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Article Index

  1. Subject: Pipes Digest #268 -- February 27, 2000
  2. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #267 -- December 30, 1999
  3. Subject: BPTT guidelines, etc.
  4. Subject: Pipe show in Newark
  5. Subject: 10 % Discount to members of any organized pipe club
  6. Subject: posting from pipes page
  7. Subject: kein Betreff
  8. Subject: Pipe-smoking in Korea
  9. Subject: Re: Royal Cigar Store
  10. Subject: Royal Cigar Store
  11. Subject: Arbitrate the Bastards!
  12. Subject: perfect humidor for under $2.00
  13. Subject: posting from pipes page
  14. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #267 -- December 30, 1999
  15. Subject: Priceless enjoyment
  16. Subject: Re: Pipes Digest #267 -- December 30, 1999, "the pipe" web
  17. Subject: RE Filter pipe - PD267
  18. Subject: Filtered European pipes
  19. Subject: Filters
  20. Subject: Rants
  21. Subject: Young Pipe Smokers
  22. Subject: A few questions on Pipes/Pipe tobacco
  23. Subject: New Subscription
  24. Subject: posting from pipes page
  25. Subject: posting from pipes page
  26. Subject: posting from pipes page
  27. Subject: posting from pipes page
  28. Subject: Looking for suggestions
  29. Subject: dents and your digest
  30. Subject: FW: An Excellent Pipe Shop in Paris and "The Perfect pipe" by Jeffrs
  31. Subject: Yellow mouthpieces
  32. Subject: new entry PD pipe resource list
  33. Subject: posting from pipes page
  34. Subject: Response to Phillip Burnard
  35. Subject: Saludos
  36. Subject: posting from pipes page
  37. Subject: posting from pipes page
  38. Subject: GBD
  39. Subject: Pipes, et al...
  40. Subject: posting from pipes page
  41. Subject: question.
  42. Subject: Hello from NC!
  43. Subject: Links?
  44. Subject: Pipe Smoking in New Tolkien Movies!!
  45. Subject: FW: Letter to P&T
  46. Subject: Hoja Cigars
  47. Subject: Favorite tobaccos
  48. Subject: posting from pipes page
  49. Subject: posting from pipes page
  50. Subject: Joe at Boeing
  51. Subject: FREE
  52. Subject: RE: Peter Stokkebye Bulk Tobacco - Jack Atkins
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